June 16, 2025 • 39 mins
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Imagine living with debilitating pain for three decades, only to discover that the key to freedom wasn't surgery but something far more surprising. This is the remarkable journey of Kari Kiazyk, who transformed her 30-year battle with scoliosis pain into a mission to help others find relief through unconventional but powerful methods.
At just sixteen years old, Kari faced a devastating diagnosis following a gym class accident. Doctors warned she'd be wheelchair-bound by thirty without immediate surgery. Despite this grim prognosis, something deep within her resisted. That intuitive "no" set her on a path that would eventually lead to complete freedom from pain – though not before enduring years of suffering and a near-fatal car accident that became her ultimate wake-up call.
The accident marked a turning point when synchronicities began appearing in Kari’s life. Her introduction to energy healing resonated on a profound level, and after just three sessions with a healer, her pain dropped from a nine to a two. Today, she's been pain-free for over a decade without surgical intervention, despite still having the physical S-curve of scoliosis.
What makes Kari’s approach so revolutionary is her understanding of pain as a messenger rather than an enemy. "Pain is like a fire alarm going off in your body," she explains. "You don't just smash the alarm and walk away—you go to the source." Through her work with crystal singing bowls and energy healing, she helps people access those deeper sources of pain—often emotional or energetic in nature—that conventional treatments can't reach.
The vibrations from sound healing move through water, tissue, and energetic fields, helping regulate the nervous system and dissolve stored emotional residue from grief, stress, and trauma. This modality proves particularly powerful for releasing trauma incurred before we had language to process it.
Ready to transform your relationship with pain? Explore Kari’s work at aligningyourheart.com and discover how addressing the root causes of suffering can lead to lasting relief. Your body has wisdom to share – are you ready to listen?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to another episode of Empowered Ease, where
we celebrate inspiring womenwho are making a difference in
the lives of others.
Today, I have the pleasure ofintroducing Keri Kysak, a
remarkable heart-centeredtransformational healer and
coach and the visionary founderof Aligning your Heart.
Keri's journey is one ofresilience and empowerment.
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After enduring debilitatingscoliosis pain for over 30 years
and being told that surgery washer only option, she chose a
transformative path focused onfrequency, energy and deep inner
alignment, now pain-free formore than a decade.
Carrie dedicates her life tohelping women shed their
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physical, emotional andenergetic burdens to rediscover
their truth and live empoweredlives.
With a unique blend of energyhealing, crystal bowl resonance
and intuitive coaching, anchoredin the incredible heart light
energy that she channels, carriecreates a nurturing space where
women feel safe, seen andsupported on their journey to
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self-empowerment, whether it'sthrough private sessions, group
experiences or immersive soundjourneys.
Carrie's work as a speaker,facilitator and founder truly
embodies empowerment andtransformation.
Facilitator and founder trulyembodies empowerment and
transformation.
Join me as we explore KeriKizak's inspiring story and the
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transformative power of healingon Empowered Ease.
Let's start Well.
Welcome Keri.
Tell me a little bit aboutyourself and the work you do.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, absolutely Well , my life was pretty normal
until I was 16.
And then, you can imagine, Iwas in grade 11 in gym class and
we were doing pole vaulting, ofall things right, and so I
cleared the pole but I landedright on my tailbone and in that
moment, of course, it knockedmy breath right out of me and,
you know, in the movementafterwards I could tell
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something was wrong.
So I went to the chiropractorthat day and that's when I found
out I had scoliosis.
So in an instant, you know,life as I knew it had was
changed forever, because Ididn't even know what it was at
the time.
And you know what you canimagine at that age, right,
other girls were going toparties picking out nice dresses
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, and here was me.
I was going to doctors andchiropractors and orthopedic
surgeons.
So at 16, I was told that itwas already so severe that I
needed surgery, and he warned methat if I didn't, I would be in
a wheelchair by the time I was30.
But it's hard to explain, butthere was something inside me
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that screamed no, like I hadnever experienced or felt
anything like that before in mylife.
I didn't even have to thinkabout it for a second.
Now, that's no comment onsurgery, right, like sometimes
there's a time and a place forit, but for me it was not right.
My body didn't want it.
Time and a place for it, butfor me it was not right, my body
didn't want it.
So, so, as you can imagine,after that, for the next 30
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years, I did what I could tomanage it.
You know, going tochiropractors, I wore a brace
for a year and and just thatwhole thing like having that
diagnosis this we're talking 40years ago now.
So having this diagnosis, peopleare treating you differently,
like there was so much confusionand people weren't aware of
what it was, and you know, I hadan S curve, and so, anyways,
the shame.
And looking at your body too,feeling disfigured and you know,
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because your shoulders arecrooked, your hips are crooked,
one leg is longer than the other, right, clothes don't fit
properly, so there's all thisstuff going on there.
And the other right Clothesdon't fit properly, so there's
all this stuff going on there,and so, and then I started, of
course, in the workforce and Iwas like a workaholic.
You know, I was the first oneat work, the last one to leave,
and you can imagine, sitting allday and of course I had to
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drive an hour and a half to andfrom work every day.
So the long hours sitting andthen driving, like the pain was
just unbearable, like some daysit was so bad I just couldn't
even take it anymore and I'dhave to escape to my car and,
you know, just cry and, yeah,and some days, you know it's so
bad you can't even get out ofbed.
I could only stand for maybe 10minutes at a time.
Like washing dishes or, youknow, vacuuming, like just
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normal things that you take forgranted, were required such
effort and I was exhausted, inpain and exhausted.
So, like I said, I was caughtin this rat race of life for 30
years until something quitedramatic actually happened One
day.
I was driving home it was aThursday and it was in May.
It was actually a beautiful dayand driving home like the same
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way I always do and I've alwaysdone and I was eight minutes
from home and there was thisgravel truck in front of me and
his load was coming out of theback of the truck.
So there were these patioboulders and bricks that were
like all over the place, if youcan imagine, scattered across
the highway.
So in that moment I rememberthinking it's like, okay, so
what am I going to do here?
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And then I barely had a momentto think because there was this
great big B train semi, fullyloaded, on the other side of the
highway coming in my direction,and one of the boulders
actually knocked open his hoodand knocked out his steering.
So the last image I had wasthis great big semi, like I said
, coming across the highway intomy lane, and I remembered
thinking in that moment this isit, like my life is over.
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And yeah, I remember thinkingI've had a nice life because I
knew there was nothing I coulddo.
He was going to hit me and so,it's funny, I don't recall
feeling fear in that moment.
It was just like I surrenderedand I accepted what was going to
happen.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And my gosh.
I've heard that before.
People like feel a deep peacewhen they accept it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yes, yes, and I remember I just swerved just a
little bit to the right, butactually I went underneath the
semi a little bit.
He ripped off my driver's tireon the front and then the whole
side of my car was like all bentin and dented and everything
else.
So he, basically I wentunderneath and then it spit me
out and it threw me like 300feet in the ditch and I landed.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's what people told you, cause you just
remember seeing the semi comingat you.
Oh my gosh, it's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yes, and then I was unconscious for half an hour,
cause you can imagine your bodyhit with that much force.
But you know what the universeso had my back, that a nurse
just happened to be there on thescene and she kept me from
going into shock.
I know it was.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So that warms my heart, like you wouldn't believe
.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, and of course I don't remember any of this
because I was unconscious.
But when I finally came to, Iremember asking the paramedics
it's like, did the semi hit me?
And then they said yes, therewas impact.
And then it's like, why is mycar door like way over there?
And it's like we had to use thejaws of life to get you woke up
on the scene.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yes, oh my gosh, yes.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And then, like the paramedic, like what they said,
there was no way anyone couldhave possibly survived that the
amount of damage to my car.
And I literally walked awayfrom there with just a little
scuff on my nose and like justthe left side of my body badly
bruised there, with just alittle scuff on my nose and like
just the left side of my bodybadly bruised.
Oh my gosh.
(07:13):
Yeah, that was the only injuryyou got.
That was it.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh my gosh, it's like a miracle.
Well, the airbags, of course.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It felt like someone punched me in the gut but Major
bruising, yeah, yeah, but Wow.
So, anyways, that was my wakeup call, that's what started me
on another path and after thataccident it's funny you feel
like like why did I survive that?
You know?
I mean, I was grateful, butit's just like you know what I
mean, because they said they'veseen a lot of accidents where
cars were much less damage andpeople were killed, right right.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, yeah, I'm an icu nurse and I've worked trauma
before and I work neuro rightnow, so that we take a lot of
trauma.
Yeah, it's very, very lucky.
Just the impact, the weight ofthat vehicle alone, plus who
knows what speeds you guys aretraveling at, so scary yeah,
highway speed, I know so it was.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That was seriously.
After that happened, um, ofcourse I.
I had post-traumatic stressdisorder after that, all the
symptoms, sorry, yeah, I had allof that.
And so, anyways, after thisaccident happened, that's when
different synchronicities andsigns and people started showing
up in my life.
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One job I had, a co-worker cameup to me and she started
talking to me about energyhealing, and it's just like I
had never heard of that before.
I had no idea what she wastalking about, but my body did
Like again, something inside mybody is just like yes, you know,
we have to know more.
I was just ravenous.
So I was taking courses andlearning everything I possibly
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could.
I was eventually led to Reiki.
I became a Reiki master.
I possibly could.
I was eventually led to Reiki.
I became a Reiki master.
I started working with energyand and I actually I went to a
healer too, and and I was alittle bit skeptical I'm not
going to deny that because Ithought what they possibly do to
me to help me.
But I went and, if you're goingto believe it, after three
sessions my pain went from alevel nine to a level two.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I can't believe it only because recently I've been
doing a lot of energy work andvery intense sound healing and
the effects of those things.
I was skeptical as well, butwe're just like you.
Can't even put words to some ofthis stuff.
I don't even know how todescribe the impact they've had,
but they have been.
It has been so helpful on somany levels.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Oh yes.
And then now today, I've beenpain-free for over a decade.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
And so you never had anysurgical intervention?
You don't look like I'm notsaying that you can always see
like severe scoliosis, but youlook very straight, Do you, do
you?
Do you still have the um, Iguess, the physical um, the S
curve?
Yeah, yeah, Do you still havethe S curve?
(09:52):
Or have you um done some likephysical work as well, Cause I
know we're talking a lot aboutenergy and sound, but do you
have physical practice with thatas well?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
No, like for years.
Like I said, for those 30 yearschiropractor was my main and of
course you're trying to forcethe spine, but spine didn't want
to straighten.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Um, I'm not still do the chiropractor?
Is these like additions?
Okay, that's what I waswondering.
Like you're not adding on toyour therapies, you've replaced
them.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Okay, totally replaced them.
Yeah, I've been 10, 11 years, Iguess.
I have not seen a chiropractorno, I've met him, yeah, yeah,
when I was so dependent I wasgoing like every week, you know
when you're in pain, but um my,the s-curve is still there, like
there's no cure for scoliosis,right still have it, but it's
not impacting me in the way thatbefore, when I would look in
the mirror.
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You know you always look forwhat's wrong and and now I don't
notice it anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So I feel like my posture is straighter.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, I'm not noticing it anymore.
It's still there, but it's notas bad as it was.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, I would guess that, like you know, things can
over tighten and lose.
You know you can haveflexibility with it, more or
less, so you look like a lot offlexibility.
Yes, yes, I do want to mentionbefore we get any further and
Carrie educated me about thisbefore we started I did not know
, but it actually is scoliosisawareness month and I was
unaware of that, so you're theperfect guest for right now.
(11:13):
I absolutely love that.
Um, so, um, I love this.
This is how you found yourhealing.
Before we move on a little bit,I can't you've mentioned this
twice and I love this because Ifeel like this is actually a
huge problem for a lot of peopleand a lot of the work that you
have to do in the beginning withthem.
You were saying, like my bodysaid no, and I feel like a lot
of times, people, our bodies,are giving us signals and people
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we're not necessarily able tohear them.
So it's so impressive that at avery young age and at this very
intense time, you were able tolisten and follow those signals
that your body was sending you.
So I just wonder if you haveany insight into, like, how you
were able to do that, or forpeople who struggle with that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, well, okay, so when pain shows up in our body,
like in our physical body, likeit's been trying to get our
attention other ways before, soobviously for 30 years.
It's funny, I heard it soclearly at 16.
Like you know what I mean, Iknow, like it's just no, I don't
want this surgery.
But then for 30 years, like youknow, the pain was getting
worse and worse and worse.
So my body was literallyscreaming at me and it was not
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getting my attention at me and Iit was not getting my attention
right.
Because pain is like a firealarm going off in your body.
It's loud, it's persistent, itdemands your attention.
But the problem, that's thething here, it's the signal.
So you could, you don't justsmash the alarm and walk away,
right, you go to the source.
So it's once I got to theenergetic root of the pain,
that's things really started toshift.
But, yeah, and awareness andacknowledging the pain, that's
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what I've learned.
Now is you?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
know, Don't ignore it .
Speaker 2 (12:48):
No, you don't ignore it.
No, and pain isn't the problem.
That's one of my coreprinciples.
Pain is not the problem, it's amessenger, it's trying to get
your attention, like there'squite often there's such a
negative, right Image associatedwith pain.
You know, like, say, if youwake up wake up with a sore
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elbow, pain is scary, too right,like, oh, no, what did I do to
cause that pain?
Or what's wrong.
And then, of course, your mindgoes to the worst case scenario
right, well, it might be this,it might be that, right, but um,
if you just acknowledge thepain, like thank you, pain for
bringing this to my attention,you know, and is there a message
for me?
So it's, it's acknowledging thepain and making space for that
pain, right, I love that lovethat because it's so okay.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So that is the emotional work that we're all
trying to do, right, and we canstart on a physical level,
because that's a little morebaby, right.
That's like we're all trying.
Well, if we are on a healingjourney and consciously trying
to heal, I think most of us aretrying to learn to sit with our
pain on different levels anddifferent ways, different kinds
of pain, and this just just sucha.
I never thought about it onthis level, but I love that
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multi-layered mess of all ofthis.
So one thing I want to ask youabout this a little bit before
we move on is so how do youacknowledge cause?
I know we also feel fear in ourbodies, right?
So how do you tell thedifference between when your
body is giving you a fear signal, which isn't necessarily your
intuition, and when your body'sgiving you, like, an intuition
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of like no, no, no.
How do you differentiate that?
Or how do how, how shouldpeople differentiate that?
Do you have any advice?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Well, yeah, actually it's funny that you brought up
fear, because I just wanted toexplain, like for myself
personally, when I got to theenergetic root of the pain.
Guess what it was?
It was fear-based, yeah, and itwasn't just, it wasn't my fear,
it was my mother's fear and itwas her mother's fear.
There's something that actuallyhappened in the third trimester
, Like there was something thatcaused my mother fear and which
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caused my spine to you know thatdeformity in the spine, right
Like the curve.
So so fear is huge.
We the issue is that we've beenso conditioned to live in
survival mode right andeverything is fear-based, like
that's just our conditioningright and it's what we came into
the world with.
So that's why when I work withpeople, I create this very safe,
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compassionate space because,like we're all like when you're
in fear or anxiety, right, likeyour energy is constricted.
So when I'm working with people, I help them to open up and to
feel safe, like it's just a veryloving, compassionate space.
I just naturally bring throughthese frequencies and so when
I'm working with someone, likethey really feel held and so
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they can let their guard downand then we can start to work
and clearing out thosefear-based things.
But until you actually start torelease that fear, that
conditioning, then you're notable to hear what your body's
saying.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I love that.
That's a great description,yeah, so how do you translate
this into helping others?
Do you work with women who havescoliosis?
Do you work with people inchronic pain in general?
What are, what are the kinds ofpeople women that you're
working with?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I help people who are suffering in, they're in pain.
Now, it doesn't necessarilyhave to be physical pain, it can
be emotional, it can be mental,um, or even spiritual.
I'm I, I lately I've beenfocusing on, on scoliosis and
and chronic pain because youknow, like I said once you're,
the pain is in your body, likeyour body is screaming to get
your attention.
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And then I believe, at the rootof every kind of physical pain,
there's an emotional, there'san energetic component, right,
emotional or mental.
So, um, anyone who's sufferingis basically but yeah, chronic
pain is where I really shinehelping people.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
There's a huge I feel like that is a growing
population of people living withchronic pain too, because we're
such a well, at least in thiscountry I don't know about
Canada, but we have such similarcultures I think that people
stuff a lot and stuff theiremotions and you know we're very
good at what is that word.
Oh, my gosh, when you separateyourself from your body,
disconnected, yeah, we'redisassociating, and so I was
looking for but yes, thank you,like we're very good at that and
just shoving stuff away.
So, yeah, I don't know where Iwas going with that, but I just
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think it like translates a lotto this and the pain that comes
up and all the chronic illness.
That's where I was was goingwith that.
I think it's a growingpopulation.
I actually had one of my mostpopular episodes as a non-profit
that helps people with chronicillnesses who kind of fall
between which.
I think most people withchronic pain do.
You fall between this gray areawhere there's not really
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support available for you, andyou look normal.
So people treat you like you,you know, with the expectations
of someone who functionsnormally, but the chronic
illnesses are not seen, chronicpain is not seen, and so, anyway
, this nonprofit is just blowingup.
It's interesting how manypeople are living with this
nowadays and how like ourculture is really seems like
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it's getting sicker in some ways.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, well, that was me like for 30 years.
On the outside I looked fine,right, you couldn't tell, like,
the pain and how much I wassuffering on the inside because
you want to hide it, right,there's, there's shame around
that.
And, yeah, no, it's, it's awfulCause, yeah, yeah, no, it's
everywhere.
You're right, Everyone.
There's so many people youdon't know who's suffering and
who isn't, because we've allbeen taught, right, like to
stuff it all down and keep it in.
And so you know what, after mysessions, like everyone feels so
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much lighter because so manypeople don't realize just
symptoms, right, but what I dois I go back to the origin point
, to the point before the pain,before the pain started.
That's where I track it back to.
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So, um, that's what's sopowerful about the work that I
do.
So I really like to work withpeople who've tried everything.
You know what I mean.
I help them find lasting reliefwithout endless treatments,
without medication, like withoutum, surgery and all that kind
of stuff.
So if you've tried everythingelse and you're not having any
luck, then that's those people Ireally like to work with to get
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to the root of their pain andsuffering.
Because you know what, when Iwas caught in that cycle for 30
years.
I had just accepted it.
You know, I thought this was mylot in life, and I always
justified it too, because Ithought so many other people
have it so much worse than I do.
You know, for me it's just thisback pain that doesn't want to
go away.
But I accepted it and I had noidea that not having pain,
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living pain free, was even apossibility.
It wasn't even in my realm ofthinking Soibility, yeah, yeah.
So to be on the other side ofthat, like I am so grateful
every day that I wake up and I'mnot in pain.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's just yeah, so how?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
does the energy work and the sound healing help
people address these issues?
Yeah, okay.
So with sound healing, andespecially with the crystal
bowls, you're listening not justwith your ears but with your
whole body.
So that's one thing most peopleare up in their heads, right
and they're trying to understand.
So I, when you're listeningthis way, your cells are
listening, your nervous systemis listening, you're listening
with your whole body.
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The vibration moves throughwater, through tissue, through
your energetic field, and itreaches those places that words
and thoughts can't touch.
So I bring through thesebeautiful healing frequencies, I
channel them when I'm playingthe bowls and it really helps to
calm the mind, to regulate thenervous system and it gently
dissolves the energetic residueof these old patterns, the grief
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, the stress, the trauma.
So it's like your system getsto remember this state of
Harmony that it may not havefelt in a very long time.
So sound is so special becauseit opens a door to deep release,
not by pushing but by inviting.
It helps the body to feel safe,to soften, realign and to
receive something new.
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So it's this beautifulexperience of returning to
yourself, because we all havethe ability to heal, like our
bodies are beautiful, they arewonderful.
They're so intelligent, so it'sjust helping the person
remember and open up to thatagain.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's so funny.
Everything you said, my brainis like oh my God.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh my.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
God, Because, like so I mentioned, I just went
through this.
I I had I did like a month longcoaching with a woman who I'm
going to have her on and talkmore about it, but it started
with the well.
Part of the beginning of it wasthis like hour long sound
healing that she did like aroundmy body and I at the time was
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working with a trauma therapistas well, and I had trouble
recovering most of my memoriesfrom my childhood.
I just don't remember much.
Like you know, when asked toprovide memories, there was
probably eight of good and badcombined that I could come up
with on the spot.
And, um, after experiencing thissound healing, without even
trying, like just relaxing, somany memories were just unlocked
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at interesting times and itwasn't like like a flashback or
like when things come up in ahard way.
It came up and I'll tell you,it felt it sounds silly, but it
almost felt like things werebroken loose.
They float to the surface LikeI, I like moved through the
emotion of it and then it's soeasily left.
And I felt through the emotionof it and then it's so easily
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left and I felt more peace withthose situations than I thought
was possible without any effortat all, and they were things
like I recovered memories thathelped me understand things
about why I am the way I am,without even trying, you know.
I mean I said we set anintention before I started, of
course, and I felt like I had somany experiences like that, and
not just like right away afterthe session, for the next like
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month and a half I had dreams orjust memories or you know,
simple things that were coming.
One of my favorites was I wasjust having trouble sleeping one
night and I could remember myentire childhood yard like silly
things, like where I used toplay Cause we kind of grew up in
the woods, and it was just oneof the most beautiful,
comforting memories for me.
And all of this came from soundhealing and one of the just when
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I brought it back to my traumatherapist cause I'm like what is
going on?
She was just saying that, likeyou know, a lot of things that
can happen to us, happen beforewe have words to put to them.
Some, a lot of emotions are waytoo complex to put our simple
language to.
So to even try to talk about it, you're not going to get the
full release, Because for mepersonally, a lot of my trauma
incurred before I had probablylanguage, especially language,
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to describe the things that Ihad trauma from.
So there is not going to be away to release that with words,
because they didn't even existwhen I incurred that pain,
incurred that scar or whateverit was.
So sound healing is just thislike profound way to move all of
that energy and I just found somuch and I'm obsessed right now
(23:38):
.
I'm so happy you're here totalk about it more, so tell us
more.
I love this.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yes, yes, no, thank you.
Yeah, cause sound.
Our body stores everything,like you said, things that words
can't even put to, things thatwe don't want to deal with,
right, push down things that wedon't remember, our ancestors
right, our our, you know,generational issues, like all
this stuff gets pushed in andstored in the body and so
subconscious programming that'syes, already in there.
(24:04):
Yeah yes, so yeah, and when I'mworking with someone, like I
said, like I've had people fallasleep and that's perfectly fine
, we always record it so you canreturn to it later and it goes
deeper every single time.
But you just sit back and that'sall you have to do is listen
and just be present and, like,my special gift is really
holding someone's heart.
You know, creating thisbeautiful, loving, like I said,
(24:24):
compassionate space, like you'rereally feel held when you're
working with me and then youjust sit back and you relax and
I just I'm talking and I'mguiding you through it.
But the thing is like I'mworking with your subconscious
and we're doing deep, deeprelease, like going down to the
cells.
It's a deep recalibration andit's the everything that you've
pushed down, like all thisenergetic and emotional weight,
(24:45):
like it just starts to releaseand very gently come to the
surface and, like you said, it'syou're not reliving it in any
way, it's just being presentwith it.
It's just you know what I mean.
You're just being present andwitnessing it coming up to the
surface and releasing, and soyeah it is so powerful, it's so
beautiful and I just love it.
And, like I said, these special,I channel these frequencies
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that are specific.
So every session, likeeveryone's unique, so every
session is deeply personalizedto the person and I tune into
their higher self and talk tothem about what they think is
going on and we get to the rootof it and then, you know, I just
bring through these energiesand I play the crystal bowls
Like it's just a beautiful,beautiful experience.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It sounds awesome.
I love it.
I think so many people aremissing out on things like this
that you don't even know.
I mean, it's so, it's soeffortless to as long as you
just open yourself to it alittle.
So I just absolutely love peoplelike you who are willing to
talk about it because it's hardto talk about, because it's hard
to put words to theseexperiences, it's hard to
describe what's happening andthere's not a lot of physical
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things you can touch about it,and so for someone who's
skeptical, it's really easy todiscredit this stuff.
But when you open yourself toit, I feel like it's just so
profound how much of an impactit can have, and it's intense
and it's not all at the sametime.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yes, yes, it really is.
But see, the thing is what I'venoticed too, like some people
that are really closed off, like, of course you know, when you
work with them, like one sessionjust starts to get things going
.
But if you're really closed offyou might take some extra work
just to get them to start toopen.
But once you open up to it,it's incredibly profound, you
know, because it's all theconditioning, it's the
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subconscious.
You have to make the body, theperson's body, feel safe to open
.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And then you just start feeling things.
That is happy tears too, justlike good emotions too.
So much just flowing throughyou when you allow yourself to
finally feel some things.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I know I had one lady .
She said she knew she was introuble.
Like I had just started playingthe crystal bowls and the tears
were coming and I said that isso beautiful, that is a release,
you know, like your body hasbeen waiting, like your body's
waiting to exhale, just to feelsafe and held Right.
Heart release Like, oh, I don'thave to carry this anymore.
You know what I mean, it's just.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And how many tears have we all shoved down to stop
crying, like you know what Imean.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
We a lot of us don't let ourselves cry.
We need to cry, we do need tocry.
Well, we've been taught likecrying is a sign of weakness,
right, even as a baby, right,you're being told to be quiet
and yeah, but no crying.
And there's so much sadness,like when I'm doing work in
people's hearts and and peoplenot feeling worthy to receive
(27:26):
right, and we're so conditionedto put everyone else before us.
So I've got to, you know, dosome work in the heart space
just to start to open that up alittle bit, because there's so
much armor.
We put these walls around ourheart to protect ourselves from
being hurt, but you know wedon't need that anymore.
And I had one lady that had aterrible time sleeping and, uh,
you know, when I was tuning inand working on her, like she was
(27:48):
just in this hypervigilantstate, you know, like always
looking over her shoulder, right, like something bad's going to
happen.
So started working with her andshe was able to start to.
You know, let that go.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And so it's working on that survival mode, right,
yeah reprogramming your nervoussystem a little bit to a state
of like relaxation and safety.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yes, yes, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Beautiful.
So if people are listening tothe yeah, I was gonna say people
are listening to this andthey're like what?
Oh my gosh, what is this Like?
How do I learn more?
So where?
Where would you advise peopleto start?
What kind of advice do you givepeople who may be hearing this
for the first time?
Get a little skeptic and belike you know what?
Maybe I want to.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Maybe I want to check out my website.
So, wwwaligningyourheartcom.
So yeah, like for me, the heartis everything.
You got to start in the heartand do the work here, and then
it ripples outward.
You do that.
See, people aren't happy withwhat's going on in their life,
and you know what I mean.
You have to start doing thework inside, and it all starts
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with the heart.
I believe that so profoundly.
Once you do that work in theheart, you'll see things start
to shift.
So, aligning your heart, it'sall about alignment, coming back
into alignment, and you knowwhat Scoliosis actually means
misaligned with life, if you canimagine.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So we're in scoliosis month.
I love it.
I also love that you said oh mygosh, am I blanking on it now
I'm having a day or night Imight have to edit this part out
.
Oh my gosh, it'll come to me,I'll have to edit that part out,
(29:26):
sorry.
Yeah, I really wanted to askyou about.
I wanted to ask you aboutbecause you mentioned that a lot
of people with their heart workhave trouble feeling worthy and
I feel like you know there's weall have these like very primal
, subconscious wounds and beingworthy of taking care of
ourselves or, you know, to takeup any space in this world.
(29:46):
Or even you know, like I thinkthat, like a lot of people, they
may just have to start with,like it's okay to even put this
much effort into myself.
I am worth putting this effortback into myself and not
constantly trying to helpeveryone else around me.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yes, I love that you mentioned that, yeah, and
clearing the guilt and the shameof actually spending time on
yourself.
You know what I mean.
It's just yeah, yeah, it's.
It's so powerful working withthe heart and you have so many
people.
There's so much sadness in theheart and even grief, like, if
you can imagine, I was actuallyholding on to grief too, grief
of the life that I had beforethe pain, and you know, and we
(30:23):
all hold on to these differentroles and identities and
associated with the pain.
I did that.
I kept saying my scoliosis, myscoliosis.
I don't do that anymore, butyou know what I mean don't do
that anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
But you know what I mean.
You learn to identify with thepain.
So, yeah, labels can reallylike close you off without even
knowing it.
When you start using them toomuch, they can really limit your
what you see for yourself.
Um, so I know that because thisis scoliosis awareness month,
you have some special um eventsgoing on coming up.
Do you want to tell us a littlebit about the events you have
going on this month?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, I'm doing four different workshops.
It's called Healing Beyond theCurve and we are looking at
discussing what scoliosis is,how it makes you feel and all
the different things that itbrings up, and actually I've got
a link I can.
But, yeah, it's beautiful, it'sa very powerful workshop and,
uh, actually I have a soundhealing circle, so I introduced
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a little bit of sound healing atthe end.
So just get a little bit of anexperience of what it is.
And you know, we talk about allthe different emotions and kind
of that stuff that we'retalking about here.
So it it's, um, it's verypowerful and there's two more
left and you can also get thereplays when you sign up for it.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But yes, well, I'll put all these links in the show
notes.
You just forward me all thelinks to all that stuff and I'll
put it in the show notes.
So if you can just clickanywhere you find the episode,
you'll find it with thedescription.
I know you have other eventsgoing on throughout the year
that you hold monthly too.
What are those that you do?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yes, unlock the hidden pain code.
So I'm sort of teaching peopleabout how to understanding pain,
like what pain means, and thatit's pain is not your enemy,
it's your guide, right, and Italked about how important
safety is and about the nervoussystem regulation and, of course
, bringing in your heart and,yeah, just educating people on
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you know pain and the deeperlevels and not seeing it.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Like I said, it's not the enemy, it's a messenger
signal, yeah, and so, yeah, yourbody's trying to tell you
something and we, of looking atit, you know, like,
acknowledging it, being presentwith it, listening to it, well,
(32:41):
yeah, and I want to say, youknow, with that, there are a lot
of people who don't want tohear about it because maybe they
don't understand, you know,they're privileged enough to not
have to, to not understand thatkind of suffering.
But the importance of findingpeople that do, you know, like
it hasn't come up a while, butmost episodes like healing and
community comes up as part of um, as part of this, of of the
(33:05):
healing process.
And I would say this is one ofyour community, or a community
like it.
When you're experiencingchronic pain, to be sure that
you surround yourself withpeople that validate and, um,
you know, acknowledge thatthat's real for you, because
anybody who's not is not worth,you know, sharing with.
We all need people who canunderstand our suffering to be
(33:26):
able to talk to, and if they'renot in our lives or in our
family, we have to go a littlefurther to find them, whether
that's a support group, acoaching group, something like
that.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
But we need people that understand what we're going
through to be able to healproperly, to be validated,
really, oh yeah, I say that allthe time, like I see you, you
know what I mean and I hear you,I'm listening and I'm holding
space for you.
Yeah.
Because I don't like whenpeople are suffering, like my
heart just goes out because Imean I want to help you heal and
(33:55):
move past this.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yes, me too.
I'm a big like empath.
I've like, I have a lot ofheart, love energy, whatever I
do, energy work.
People are always talking aboutlike that, where that comes
from for me, and.
I feel it like, now that I'veacknowledged it a little more, I
feel it.
I feel like you know a bit ahuge empath to that stuff.
So, um, that's why I do thiswork and why you do this work,
(34:18):
I'm sure, cause it's just I haveto.
I have to.
It's what makes me feel good.
It's my purpose, that makes mefeel, um, like my place in the
world.
Um, I do want to ask you beforeI forget because I ask every
guest this what whenever thingsget overwhelming for you or
you're having a hard time orlife just isn't going the way
you want?
I used to say what is yourself-care?
But Dr Lori Laws told me to saywhat is your self-nurturing?
(34:41):
But what's your go-to, that,when you need to take care of
you, that you go to to feelbetter?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, I actually take a step back, you know, remove
myself from the situation andjust sit and be present with
myself, you know placing my handon my heart or sitting in front
of my bowls, but just tuninginwards.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Checking in with what your needs are in the moment.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Or going out in nature, sitting in the sun in my
garden.
But you know what I mean.
It's just a moment, just beingpresent with myself or being
present with nature.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I love that.
I love that.
Okay, well, so tell me.
I think I don't know if you'vesaid your website on here, but
tell like.
So if people don't want to likelook it up and they have a
great memory, will you say yourwebsite and where people can go
to find you?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yes, it's wwwaligningyourheartcom.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Beautiful, beautiful, and so in the next couple of
weeks you have events onThursdays in June, correct, and
then monthly you also have anevent for pain.
So if people are interested youcan check her out there and
find also any links in the shownotes.
Is there anything else you wantto leave us?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
with before we go.
Yeah, I'm just so passionateabout helping people find relief
.
That, just what lights me up,it's just seeing people heal.
You know from the sufferingthat they're going through.
What I want to you don't haveto suffer and you're not alone,
(36:23):
like there are people here tohelp you and there is relief.
Relief is possible.
So I just want you to know that, like your body isn't broken,
your pain isn't your identity,so it just.
I invite you to, you know, totune in to your heart and just
just take a moment and bepresent with yourself and just
tune into what truth your bodyis ready to reveal.
(36:44):
Right, cause I help peopleremember the truth of who they
are.
You know their greatness andtheir power, right, I love that.
That's beautiful and you'reworth it.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You're worth taking that time and you're worth
finding that for beautiful andyou're worth it.
You're worth taking that timeand you're worth finding that
for yourself and you're worthhealing and living.
You know, yes, very powerful.
Well, thank you so much.
I really enjoyed, like yourhonesty, your willingness to
dive deep and talk about stuffthat sometimes can be a little
difficult to talk about.
So thank you so much for comingon today, carrie I I hope you
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have a wonderful day and nexttime you have something coming
up, I hope you come visit usagain and tell us what's going
on in your world.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Definitely.
Thank you so much.
It was a pleasure, thank you.
Welcome to another episode of Empowered Ease, where
we celebrate inspiring womenwho are making a difference in
the lives of others.
Today, I have the pleasure ofintroducing Keri Kysak, a
remarkable heart-centeredtransformational healer and
coach and the visionary founderof Aligning your Heart.
Keri's journey is one ofresilience and empowerment.
(00:27):
After enduring debilitatingscoliosis pain for over 30 years
and being told that surgery washer only option, she chose a
transformative path focused onfrequency, energy and deep inner
alignment, now pain-free formore than a decade.
Carrie dedicates her life tohelping women shed their
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physical, emotional andenergetic burdens to rediscover
their truth and live empoweredlives.
With a unique blend of energyhealing, crystal bowl resonance
and intuitive coaching, anchoredin the incredible heart light
energy that she channels, carriecreates a nurturing space where
women feel safe, seen andsupported on their journey to
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self-empowerment, whether it'sthrough private sessions, group
experiences or immersive soundjourneys.
Carrie's work as a speaker,facilitator and founder truly
embodies empowerment andtransformation.
Facilitator and founder trulyembodies empowerment and
transformation.
Join me as we explore KeriKizak's inspiring story and the
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transformative power of healingon Empowered Ease.
Let's start Well.
Welcome Keri.
Tell me a little bit aboutyourself and the work you do.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, absolutely Well , my life was pretty normal
until I was 16.
And then, you can imagine, Iwas in grade 11 in gym class and
we were doing pole vaulting, ofall things right, and so I
cleared the pole but I landedright on my tailbone and in that
moment, of course, it knockedmy breath right out of me and,
you know, in the movementafterwards I could tell
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something was wrong.
So I went to the chiropractorthat day and that's when I found
out I had scoliosis.
So in an instant, you know,life as I knew it had was
changed forever, because Ididn't even know what it was at
the time.
And you know what you canimagine at that age, right,
other girls were going toparties picking out nice dresses
(02:29):
, and here was me.
I was going to doctors andchiropractors and orthopedic
surgeons.
So at 16, I was told that itwas already so severe that I
needed surgery, and he warned methat if I didn't, I would be in
a wheelchair by the time I was30.
But it's hard to explain, butthere was something inside me
(02:49):
that screamed no, like I hadnever experienced or felt
anything like that before in mylife.
I didn't even have to thinkabout it for a second.
Now, that's no comment onsurgery, right, like sometimes
there's a time and a place forit, but for me it was not right.
My body didn't want it.
Time and a place for it, butfor me it was not right, my body
didn't want it.
So, so, as you can imagine,after that, for the next 30
(03:12):
years, I did what I could tomanage it.
You know, going tochiropractors, I wore a brace
for a year and and just thatwhole thing like having that
diagnosis this we're talking 40years ago now.
So having this diagnosis, peopleare treating you differently,
like there was so much confusionand people weren't aware of
what it was, and you know, I hadan S curve, and so, anyways,
the shame.
And looking at your body too,feeling disfigured and you know,
(03:36):
because your shoulders arecrooked, your hips are crooked,
one leg is longer than the other, right, clothes don't fit
properly, so there's all thisstuff going on there.
And the other right Clothesdon't fit properly, so there's
all this stuff going on there,and so, and then I started, of
course, in the workforce and Iwas like a workaholic.
You know, I was the first oneat work, the last one to leave,
and you can imagine, sitting allday and of course I had to
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drive an hour and a half to andfrom work every day.
So the long hours sitting andthen driving, like the pain was
just unbearable, like some daysit was so bad I just couldn't
even take it anymore and I'dhave to escape to my car and,
you know, just cry and, yeah,and some days, you know it's so
bad you can't even get out ofbed.
I could only stand for maybe 10minutes at a time.
Like washing dishes or, youknow, vacuuming, like just
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normal things that you take forgranted, were required such
effort and I was exhausted, inpain and exhausted.
So, like I said, I was caughtin this rat race of life for 30
years until something quitedramatic actually happened One
day.
I was driving home it was aThursday and it was in May.
It was actually a beautiful dayand driving home like the same
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way I always do and I've alwaysdone and I was eight minutes
from home and there was thisgravel truck in front of me and
his load was coming out of theback of the truck.
So there were these patioboulders and bricks that were
like all over the place, if youcan imagine, scattered across
the highway.
So in that moment I rememberthinking it's like, okay, so
what am I going to do here?
(05:05):
And then I barely had a momentto think because there was this
great big B train semi, fullyloaded, on the other side of the
highway coming in my direction,and one of the boulders
actually knocked open his hoodand knocked out his steering.
So the last image I had wasthis great big semi, like I said
, coming across the highway intomy lane, and I remembered
thinking in that moment this isit, like my life is over.
(05:32):
And yeah, I remember thinkingI've had a nice life because I
knew there was nothing I coulddo.
He was going to hit me and so,it's funny, I don't recall
feeling fear in that moment.
It was just like I surrenderedand I accepted what was going to
happen.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And my gosh.
I've heard that before.
People like feel a deep peacewhen they accept it.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yes, yes, and I remember I just swerved just a
little bit to the right, butactually I went underneath the
semi a little bit.
He ripped off my driver's tireon the front and then the whole
side of my car was like all bentin and dented and everything
else.
So he, basically I wentunderneath and then it spit me
out and it threw me like 300feet in the ditch and I landed.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's what people told you, cause you just
remember seeing the semi comingat you.
Oh my gosh, it's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yes, and then I was unconscious for half an hour,
cause you can imagine your bodyhit with that much force.
But you know what the universeso had my back, that a nurse
just happened to be there on thescene and she kept me from
going into shock.
I know it was.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So that warms my heart, like you wouldn't believe
.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, and of course I don't remember any of this
because I was unconscious.
But when I finally came to, Iremember asking the paramedics
it's like, did the semi hit me?
And then they said yes, therewas impact.
And then it's like, why is mycar door like way over there?
And it's like we had to use thejaws of life to get you woke up
on the scene.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yes, oh my gosh, yes.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And then, like the paramedic, like what they said,
there was no way anyone couldhave possibly survived that the
amount of damage to my car.
And I literally walked awayfrom there with just a little
scuff on my nose and like justthe left side of my body badly
bruised there, with just alittle scuff on my nose and like
just the left side of my bodybadly bruised.
Oh my gosh.
(07:13):
Yeah, that was the only injuryyou got.
That was it.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh my gosh, it's like a miracle.
Well, the airbags, of course.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It felt like someone punched me in the gut but Major
bruising, yeah, yeah, but Wow.
So, anyways, that was my wakeup call, that's what started me
on another path and after thataccident it's funny you feel
like like why did I survive that?
You know?
I mean, I was grateful, butit's just like you know what I
mean, because they said they'veseen a lot of accidents where
cars were much less damage andpeople were killed, right right.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, yeah, I'm an icu nurse and I've worked trauma
before and I work neuro rightnow, so that we take a lot of
trauma.
Yeah, it's very, very lucky.
Just the impact, the weight ofthat vehicle alone, plus who
knows what speeds you guys aretraveling at, so scary yeah,
highway speed, I know so it was.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That was seriously.
After that happened, um, ofcourse I.
I had post-traumatic stressdisorder after that, all the
symptoms, sorry, yeah, I had allof that.
And so, anyways, after thisaccident happened, that's when
different synchronicities andsigns and people started showing
up in my life.
(08:18):
One job I had, a co-worker cameup to me and she started
talking to me about energyhealing, and it's just like I
had never heard of that before.
I had no idea what she wastalking about, but my body did
Like again, something inside mybody is just like yes, you know,
we have to know more.
I was just ravenous.
So I was taking courses andlearning everything I possibly
(08:40):
could.
I was eventually led to Reiki.
I became a Reiki master.
I possibly could.
I was eventually led to Reiki.
I became a Reiki master.
I started working with energyand and I actually I went to a
healer too, and and I was alittle bit skeptical I'm not
going to deny that because Ithought what they possibly do to
me to help me.
But I went and, if you're goingto believe it, after three
sessions my pain went from alevel nine to a level two.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I can't believe it only because recently I've been
doing a lot of energy work andvery intense sound healing and
the effects of those things.
I was skeptical as well, butwe're just like you.
Can't even put words to some ofthis stuff.
I don't even know how todescribe the impact they've had,
but they have been.
It has been so helpful on somany levels.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Oh yes.
And then now today, I've beenpain-free for over a decade.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
And so you never had anysurgical intervention?
You don't look like I'm notsaying that you can always see
like severe scoliosis, but youlook very straight, Do you, do
you?
Do you still have the um, Iguess, the physical um, the S
curve?
Yeah, yeah, Do you still havethe S curve?
(09:52):
Or have you um done some likephysical work as well, Cause I
know we're talking a lot aboutenergy and sound, but do you
have physical practice with thatas well?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
No, like for years.
Like I said, for those 30 yearschiropractor was my main and of
course you're trying to forcethe spine, but spine didn't want
to straighten.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Um, I'm not still do the chiropractor?
Is these like additions?
Okay, that's what I waswondering.
Like you're not adding on toyour therapies, you've replaced
them.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Okay, totally replaced them.
Yeah, I've been 10, 11 years, Iguess.
I have not seen a chiropractorno, I've met him, yeah, yeah,
when I was so dependent I wasgoing like every week, you know
when you're in pain, but um my,the s-curve is still there, like
there's no cure for scoliosis,right still have it, but it's
not impacting me in the way thatbefore, when I would look in
the mirror.
(10:38):
You know you always look forwhat's wrong and and now I don't
notice it anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So I feel like my posture is straighter.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, I'm not noticing it anymore.
It's still there, but it's notas bad as it was.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, I would guess that, like you know, things can
over tighten and lose.
You know you can haveflexibility with it, more or
less, so you look like a lot offlexibility.
Yes, yes, I do want to mentionbefore we get any further and
Carrie educated me about thisbefore we started I did not know
, but it actually is scoliosisawareness month and I was
unaware of that, so you're theperfect guest for right now.
(11:13):
I absolutely love that.
Um, so, um, I love this.
This is how you found yourhealing.
Before we move on a little bit,I can't you've mentioned this
twice and I love this because Ifeel like this is actually a
huge problem for a lot of peopleand a lot of the work that you
have to do in the beginning withthem.
You were saying, like my bodysaid no, and I feel like a lot
of times, people, our bodies,are giving us signals and people
(11:35):
we're not necessarily able tohear them.
So it's so impressive that at avery young age and at this very
intense time, you were able tolisten and follow those signals
that your body was sending you.
So I just wonder if you haveany insight into, like, how you
were able to do that, or forpeople who struggle with that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, well, okay, so when pain shows up in our body,
like in our physical body, likeit's been trying to get our
attention other ways before, soobviously for 30 years.
It's funny, I heard it soclearly at 16.
Like you know what I mean, Iknow, like it's just no, I don't
want this surgery.
But then for 30 years, like youknow, the pain was getting
worse and worse and worse.
So my body was literallyscreaming at me and it was not
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getting my attention at me and Iit was not getting my attention
right.
Because pain is like a firealarm going off in your body.
It's loud, it's persistent, itdemands your attention.
But the problem, that's thething here, it's the signal.
So you could, you don't justsmash the alarm and walk away,
right, you go to the source.
So it's once I got to theenergetic root of the pain,
that's things really started toshift.
But, yeah, and awareness andacknowledging the pain, that's
(12:44):
what I've learned.
Now is you?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
know, Don't ignore it .
Speaker 2 (12:48):
No, you don't ignore it.
No, and pain isn't the problem.
That's one of my coreprinciples.
Pain is not the problem, it's amessenger, it's trying to get
your attention, like there'squite often there's such a
negative, right Image associatedwith pain.
You know, like, say, if youwake up wake up with a sore
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elbow, pain is scary, too right,like, oh, no, what did I do to
cause that pain?
Or what's wrong.
And then, of course, your mindgoes to the worst case scenario
right, well, it might be this,it might be that, right, but um,
if you just acknowledge thepain, like thank you, pain for
bringing this to my attention,you know, and is there a message
for me?
So it's, it's acknowledging thepain and making space for that
pain, right, I love that lovethat because it's so okay.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So that is the emotional work that we're all
trying to do, right, and we canstart on a physical level,
because that's a little morebaby, right.
That's like we're all trying.
Well, if we are on a healingjourney and consciously trying
to heal, I think most of us aretrying to learn to sit with our
pain on different levels anddifferent ways, different kinds
of pain, and this just just sucha.
I never thought about it onthis level, but I love that
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multi-layered mess of all ofthis.
So one thing I want to ask youabout this a little bit before
we move on is so how do youacknowledge cause?
I know we also feel fear in ourbodies, right?
So how do you tell thedifference between when your
body is giving you a fear signal, which isn't necessarily your
intuition, and when your body'sgiving you, like, an intuition
(14:10):
of like no, no, no.
How do you differentiate that?
Or how do how, how shouldpeople differentiate that?
Do you have any advice?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Well, yeah, actually it's funny that you brought up
fear, because I just wanted toexplain, like for myself
personally, when I got to theenergetic root of the pain.
Guess what it was?
It was fear-based, yeah, and itwasn't just, it wasn't my fear,
it was my mother's fear and itwas her mother's fear.
There's something that actuallyhappened in the third trimester
, Like there was something thatcaused my mother fear and which
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caused my spine to you know thatdeformity in the spine, right
Like the curve.
So so fear is huge.
We the issue is that we've beenso conditioned to live in
survival mode right andeverything is fear-based, like
that's just our conditioningright and it's what we came into
the world with.
So that's why when I work withpeople, I create this very safe,
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compassionate space because,like we're all like when you're
in fear or anxiety, right, likeyour energy is constricted.
So when I'm working with people, I help them to open up and to
feel safe, like it's just a veryloving, compassionate space.
I just naturally bring throughthese frequencies and so when
I'm working with someone, likethey really feel held and so
(15:22):
they can let their guard downand then we can start to work
and clearing out thosefear-based things.
But until you actually start torelease that fear, that
conditioning, then you're notable to hear what your body's
saying.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I love that.
That's a great description,yeah, so how do you translate
this into helping others?
Do you work with women who havescoliosis?
Do you work with people inchronic pain in general?
What are, what are the kinds ofpeople women that you're
working with?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I help people who are suffering in, they're in pain.
Now, it doesn't necessarilyhave to be physical pain, it can
be emotional, it can be mental,um, or even spiritual.
I'm I, I lately I've beenfocusing on, on scoliosis and
and chronic pain because youknow, like I said once you're,
the pain is in your body, likeyour body is screaming to get
your attention.
(16:11):
And then I believe, at the rootof every kind of physical pain,
there's an emotional, there'san energetic component, right,
emotional or mental.
So, um, anyone who's sufferingis basically but yeah, chronic
pain is where I really shinehelping people.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
There's a huge I feel like that is a growing
population of people living withchronic pain too, because we're
such a well, at least in thiscountry I don't know about
Canada, but we have such similarcultures I think that people
stuff a lot and stuff theiremotions and you know we're very
good at what is that word.
Oh, my gosh, when you separateyourself from your body,
disconnected, yeah, we'redisassociating, and so I was
looking for but yes, thank you,like we're very good at that and
just shoving stuff away.
So, yeah, I don't know where Iwas going with that, but I just
(17:02):
think it like translates a lotto this and the pain that comes
up and all the chronic illness.
That's where I was was goingwith that.
I think it's a growingpopulation.
I actually had one of my mostpopular episodes as a non-profit
that helps people with chronicillnesses who kind of fall
between which.
I think most people withchronic pain do.
You fall between this gray areawhere there's not really
(17:24):
support available for you, andyou look normal.
So people treat you like you,you know, with the expectations
of someone who functionsnormally, but the chronic
illnesses are not seen, chronicpain is not seen, and so, anyway
, this nonprofit is just blowingup.
It's interesting how manypeople are living with this
nowadays and how like ourculture is really seems like
(17:45):
it's getting sicker in some ways.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, well, that was me like for 30 years.
On the outside I looked fine,right, you couldn't tell, like,
the pain and how much I wassuffering on the inside because
you want to hide it, right,there's, there's shame around
that.
And, yeah, no, it's, it's awfulCause, yeah, yeah, no, it's
everywhere.
You're right, Everyone.
There's so many people youdon't know who's suffering and
who isn't, because we've allbeen taught, right, like to
stuff it all down and keep it in.
And so you know what, after mysessions, like everyone feels so
(18:13):
much lighter because so manypeople don't realize just
symptoms, right, but what I dois I go back to the origin point
, to the point before the pain,before the pain started.
That's where I track it back to.
(18:35):
So, um, that's what's sopowerful about the work that I
do.
So I really like to work withpeople who've tried everything.
You know what I mean.
I help them find lasting reliefwithout endless treatments,
without medication, like withoutum, surgery and all that kind
of stuff.
So if you've tried everythingelse and you're not having any
luck, then that's those people Ireally like to work with to get
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to the root of their pain andsuffering.
Because you know what, when Iwas caught in that cycle for 30
years.
I had just accepted it.
You know, I thought this was mylot in life, and I always
justified it too, because Ithought so many other people
have it so much worse than I do.
You know, for me it's just thisback pain that doesn't want to
go away.
But I accepted it and I had noidea that not having pain,
(19:19):
living pain free, was even apossibility.
It wasn't even in my realm ofthinking Soibility, yeah, yeah.
So to be on the other side ofthat, like I am so grateful
every day that I wake up and I'mnot in pain.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's just yeah, so how?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
does the energy work and the sound healing help
people address these issues?
Yeah, okay.
So with sound healing, andespecially with the crystal
bowls, you're listening not justwith your ears but with your
whole body.
So that's one thing most peopleare up in their heads, right
and they're trying to understand.
So I, when you're listeningthis way, your cells are
listening, your nervous systemis listening, you're listening
with your whole body.
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The vibration moves throughwater, through tissue, through
your energetic field, and itreaches those places that words
and thoughts can't touch.
So I bring through thesebeautiful healing frequencies, I
channel them when I'm playingthe bowls and it really helps to
calm the mind, to regulate thenervous system and it gently
dissolves the energetic residueof these old patterns, the grief
(20:22):
, the stress, the trauma.
So it's like your system getsto remember this state of
Harmony that it may not havefelt in a very long time.
So sound is so special becauseit opens a door to deep release,
not by pushing but by inviting.
It helps the body to feel safe,to soften, realign and to
receive something new.
(20:43):
So it's this beautifulexperience of returning to
yourself, because we all havethe ability to heal, like our
bodies are beautiful, they arewonderful.
They're so intelligent, so it'sjust helping the person
remember and open up to thatagain.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's so funny.
Everything you said, my brainis like oh my God.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh my.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
God, Because, like so I mentioned, I just went
through this.
I I had I did like a month longcoaching with a woman who I'm
going to have her on and talkmore about it, but it started
with the well.
Part of the beginning of it wasthis like hour long sound
healing that she did like aroundmy body and I at the time was
(21:22):
working with a trauma therapistas well, and I had trouble
recovering most of my memoriesfrom my childhood.
I just don't remember much.
Like you know, when asked toprovide memories, there was
probably eight of good and badcombined that I could come up
with on the spot.
And, um, after experiencing thissound healing, without even
trying, like just relaxing, somany memories were just unlocked
(21:45):
at interesting times and itwasn't like like a flashback or
like when things come up in ahard way.
It came up and I'll tell you,it felt it sounds silly, but it
almost felt like things werebroken loose.
They float to the surface LikeI, I like moved through the
emotion of it and then it's soeasily left.
And I felt through the emotionof it and then it's so easily
(22:10):
left and I felt more peace withthose situations than I thought
was possible without any effortat all, and they were things
like I recovered memories thathelped me understand things
about why I am the way I am,without even trying, you know.
I mean I said we set anintention before I started, of
course, and I felt like I had somany experiences like that, and
not just like right away afterthe session, for the next like
(22:31):
month and a half I had dreams orjust memories or you know,
simple things that were coming.
One of my favorites was I wasjust having trouble sleeping one
night and I could remember myentire childhood yard like silly
things, like where I used toplay Cause we kind of grew up in
the woods, and it was just oneof the most beautiful,
comforting memories for me.
And all of this came from soundhealing and one of the just when
(22:53):
I brought it back to my traumatherapist cause I'm like what is
going on?
She was just saying that, likeyou know, a lot of things that
can happen to us, happen beforewe have words to put to them.
Some, a lot of emotions are waytoo complex to put our simple
language to.
So to even try to talk about it, you're not going to get the
full release, Because for mepersonally, a lot of my trauma
incurred before I had probablylanguage, especially language,
(23:15):
to describe the things that Ihad trauma from.
So there is not going to be away to release that with words,
because they didn't even existwhen I incurred that pain,
incurred that scar or whateverit was.
So sound healing is just thislike profound way to move all of
that energy and I just found somuch and I'm obsessed right now
(23:38):
.
I'm so happy you're here totalk about it more, so tell us
more.
I love this.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yes, yes, no, thank you.
Yeah, cause sound.
Our body stores everything,like you said, things that words
can't even put to, things thatwe don't want to deal with,
right, push down things that wedon't remember, our ancestors
right, our our, you know,generational issues, like all
this stuff gets pushed in andstored in the body and so
subconscious programming that'syes, already in there.
(24:04):
Yeah yes, so yeah, and when I'mworking with someone, like I
said, like I've had people fallasleep and that's perfectly fine
, we always record it so you canreturn to it later and it goes
deeper every single time.
But you just sit back and that'sall you have to do is listen
and just be present and, like,my special gift is really
holding someone's heart.
You know, creating thisbeautiful, loving, like I said,
(24:24):
compassionate space, like you'rereally feel held when you're
working with me and then youjust sit back and you relax and
I just I'm talking and I'mguiding you through it.
But the thing is like I'mworking with your subconscious
and we're doing deep, deeprelease, like going down to the
cells.
It's a deep recalibration andit's the everything that you've
pushed down, like all thisenergetic and emotional weight,
(24:45):
like it just starts to releaseand very gently come to the
surface and, like you said, it'syou're not reliving it in any
way, it's just being presentwith it.
It's just you know what I mean.
You're just being present andwitnessing it coming up to the
surface and releasing, and soyeah it is so powerful, it's so
beautiful and I just love it.
And, like I said, these special,I channel these frequencies
(25:07):
that are specific.
So every session, likeeveryone's unique, so every
session is deeply personalizedto the person and I tune into
their higher self and talk tothem about what they think is
going on and we get to the rootof it and then, you know, I just
bring through these energiesand I play the crystal bowls
Like it's just a beautiful,beautiful experience.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It sounds awesome.
I love it.
I think so many people aremissing out on things like this
that you don't even know.
I mean, it's so, it's soeffortless to as long as you
just open yourself to it alittle.
So I just absolutely love peoplelike you who are willing to
talk about it because it's hardto talk about, because it's hard
to put words to theseexperiences, it's hard to
describe what's happening andthere's not a lot of physical
(25:47):
things you can touch about it,and so for someone who's
skeptical, it's really easy todiscredit this stuff.
But when you open yourself toit, I feel like it's just so
profound how much of an impactit can have, and it's intense
and it's not all at the sametime.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yes, yes, it really is.
But see, the thing is what I'venoticed too, like some people
that are really closed off, like, of course you know, when you
work with them, like one sessionjust starts to get things going
.
But if you're really closed offyou might take some extra work
just to get them to start toopen.
But once you open up to it,it's incredibly profound, you
know, because it's all theconditioning, it's the
(26:23):
subconscious.
You have to make the body, theperson's body, feel safe to open
.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And then you just start feeling things.
That is happy tears too, justlike good emotions too.
So much just flowing throughyou when you allow yourself to
finally feel some things.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I know I had one lady .
She said she knew she was introuble.
Like I had just started playingthe crystal bowls and the tears
were coming and I said that isso beautiful, that is a release,
you know, like your body hasbeen waiting, like your body's
waiting to exhale, just to feelsafe and held Right.
Heart release Like, oh, I don'thave to carry this anymore.
You know what I mean, it's just.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
And how many tears have we all shoved down to stop
crying, like you know what Imean.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
We a lot of us don't let ourselves cry.
We need to cry, we do need tocry.
Well, we've been taught likecrying is a sign of weakness,
right, even as a baby, right,you're being told to be quiet
and yeah, but no crying.
And there's so much sadness,like when I'm doing work in
people's hearts and and peoplenot feeling worthy to receive
(27:26):
right, and we're so conditionedto put everyone else before us.
So I've got to, you know, dosome work in the heart space
just to start to open that up alittle bit, because there's so
much armor.
We put these walls around ourheart to protect ourselves from
being hurt, but you know wedon't need that anymore.
And I had one lady that had aterrible time sleeping and, uh,
you know, when I was tuning inand working on her, like she was
(27:48):
just in this hypervigilantstate, you know, like always
looking over her shoulder, right, like something bad's going to
happen.
So started working with her andshe was able to start to.
You know, let that go.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And so it's working on that survival mode, right,
yeah reprogramming your nervoussystem a little bit to a state
of like relaxation and safety.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yes, yes, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Beautiful.
So if people are listening tothe yeah, I was gonna say people
are listening to this andthey're like what?
Oh my gosh, what is this Like?
How do I learn more?
So where?
Where would you advise peopleto start?
What kind of advice do you givepeople who may be hearing this
for the first time?
Get a little skeptic and belike you know what?
Maybe I want to.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Maybe I want to check out my website.
So, wwwaligningyourheartcom.
So yeah, like for me, the heartis everything.
You got to start in the heartand do the work here, and then
it ripples outward.
You do that.
See, people aren't happy withwhat's going on in their life,
and you know what I mean.
You have to start doing thework inside, and it all starts
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with the heart.
I believe that so profoundly.
Once you do that work in theheart, you'll see things start
to shift.
So, aligning your heart, it'sall about alignment, coming back
into alignment, and you knowwhat Scoliosis actually means
misaligned with life, if you canimagine.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So we're in scoliosis month.
I love it.
I also love that you said oh mygosh, am I blanking on it now
I'm having a day or night Imight have to edit this part out
.
Oh my gosh, it'll come to me,I'll have to edit that part out,
(29:26):
sorry.
Yeah, I really wanted to askyou about.
I wanted to ask you aboutbecause you mentioned that a lot
of people with their heart workhave trouble feeling worthy and
I feel like you know there's weall have these like very primal
, subconscious wounds and beingworthy of taking care of
ourselves or, you know, to takeup any space in this world.
(29:46):
Or even you know, like I thinkthat, like a lot of people, they
may just have to start with,like it's okay to even put this
much effort into myself.
I am worth putting this effortback into myself and not
constantly trying to helpeveryone else around me.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yes, I love that you mentioned that, yeah, and
clearing the guilt and the shameof actually spending time on
yourself.
You know what I mean.
It's just yeah, yeah, it's.
It's so powerful working withthe heart and you have so many
people.
There's so much sadness in theheart and even grief, like, if
you can imagine, I was actuallyholding on to grief too, grief
of the life that I had beforethe pain, and you know, and we
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all hold on to these differentroles and identities and
associated with the pain.
I did that.
I kept saying my scoliosis, myscoliosis.
I don't do that anymore, butyou know what I mean don't do
that anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
But you know what I mean.
You learn to identify with thepain.
So, yeah, labels can reallylike close you off without even
knowing it.
When you start using them toomuch, they can really limit your
what you see for yourself.
Um, so I know that because thisis scoliosis awareness month,
you have some special um eventsgoing on coming up.
Do you want to tell us a littlebit about the events you have
going on this month?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, I'm doing four different workshops.
It's called Healing Beyond theCurve and we are looking at
discussing what scoliosis is,how it makes you feel and all
the different things that itbrings up, and actually I've got
a link I can.
But, yeah, it's beautiful, it'sa very powerful workshop and,
uh, actually I have a soundhealing circle, so I introduced
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a little bit of sound healing atthe end.
So just get a little bit of anexperience of what it is.
And you know, we talk about allthe different emotions and kind
of that stuff that we'retalking about here.
So it it's, um, it's verypowerful and there's two more
left and you can also get thereplays when you sign up for it.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But yes, well, I'll put all these links in the show
notes.
You just forward me all thelinks to all that stuff and I'll
put it in the show notes.
So if you can just clickanywhere you find the episode,
you'll find it with thedescription.
I know you have other eventsgoing on throughout the year
that you hold monthly too.
What are those that you do?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yes, unlock the hidden pain code.
So I'm sort of teaching peopleabout how to understanding pain,
like what pain means, and thatit's pain is not your enemy,
it's your guide, right, and Italked about how important
safety is and about the nervoussystem regulation and, of course
, bringing in your heart and,yeah, just educating people on
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you know pain and the deeperlevels and not seeing it.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Like I said, it's not the enemy, it's a messenger
signal, yeah, and so, yeah, yourbody's trying to tell you
something and we, of looking atit, you know, like,
acknowledging it, being presentwith it, listening to it, well,
(32:41):
yeah, and I want to say, youknow, with that, there are a lot
of people who don't want tohear about it because maybe they
don't understand, you know,they're privileged enough to not
have to, to not understand thatkind of suffering.
But the importance of findingpeople that do, you know, like
it hasn't come up a while, butmost episodes like healing and
community comes up as part of um, as part of this, of of the
(33:05):
healing process.
And I would say this is one ofyour community, or a community
like it.
When you're experiencingchronic pain, to be sure that
you surround yourself withpeople that validate and, um,
you know, acknowledge thatthat's real for you, because
anybody who's not is not worth,you know, sharing with.
We all need people who canunderstand our suffering to be
(33:26):
able to talk to, and if they'renot in our lives or in our
family, we have to go a littlefurther to find them, whether
that's a support group, acoaching group, something like
that.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
But we need people that understand what we're going
through to be able to healproperly, to be validated,
really, oh yeah, I say that allthe time, like I see you, you
know what I mean and I hear you,I'm listening and I'm holding
space for you.
Yeah.
Because I don't like whenpeople are suffering, like my
heart just goes out because Imean I want to help you heal and
(33:55):
move past this.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yes, me too.
I'm a big like empath.
I've like, I have a lot ofheart, love energy, whatever I
do, energy work.
People are always talking aboutlike that, where that comes
from for me, and.
I feel it like, now that I'veacknowledged it a little more, I
feel it.
I feel like you know a bit ahuge empath to that stuff.
So, um, that's why I do thiswork and why you do this work,
(34:18):
I'm sure, cause it's just I haveto.
I have to.
It's what makes me feel good.
It's my purpose, that makes mefeel, um, like my place in the
world.
Um, I do want to ask you beforeI forget because I ask every
guest this what whenever thingsget overwhelming for you or
you're having a hard time orlife just isn't going the way
you want?
I used to say what is yourself-care?
But Dr Lori Laws told me to saywhat is your self-nurturing?
(34:41):
But what's your go-to, that,when you need to take care of
you, that you go to to feelbetter?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, I actually take a step back, you know, remove
myself from the situation andjust sit and be present with
myself, you know placing my handon my heart or sitting in front
of my bowls, but just tuninginwards.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Checking in with what your needs are in the moment.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Or going out in nature, sitting in the sun in my
garden.
But you know what I mean.
It's just a moment, just beingpresent with myself or being
present with nature.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I love that.
I love that.
Okay, well, so tell me.
I think I don't know if you'vesaid your website on here, but
tell like.
So if people don't want to likelook it up and they have a
great memory, will you say yourwebsite and where people can go
to find you?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yes, it's wwwaligningyourheartcom.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Beautiful, beautiful, and so in the next couple of
weeks you have events onThursdays in June, correct, and
then monthly you also have anevent for pain.
So if people are interested youcan check her out there and
find also any links in the shownotes.
Is there anything else you wantto leave us?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
with before we go.
Yeah, I'm just so passionateabout helping people find relief
.
That, just what lights me up,it's just seeing people heal.
You know from the sufferingthat they're going through.
What I want to you don't haveto suffer and you're not alone,
(36:23):
like there are people here tohelp you and there is relief.
Relief is possible.
So I just want you to know that, like your body isn't broken,
your pain isn't your identity,so it just.
I invite you to, you know, totune in to your heart and just
just take a moment and bepresent with yourself and just
tune into what truth your bodyis ready to reveal.
(36:44):
Right, cause I help peopleremember the truth of who they
are.
You know their greatness andtheir power, right, I love that.
That's beautiful and you'reworth it.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You're worth taking that time and you're worth
finding that for beautiful andyou're worth it.
You're worth taking that timeand you're worth finding that
for yourself and you're worthhealing and living.
You know, yes, very powerful.
Well, thank you so much.
I really enjoyed, like yourhonesty, your willingness to
dive deep and talk about stuffthat sometimes can be a little
difficult to talk about.
So thank you so much for comingon today, carrie I I hope you
(37:14):
have a wonderful day and nexttime you have something coming
up, I hope you come visit usagain and tell us what's going
on in your world.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Definitely.
Thank you so much.
It was a pleasure, thank you.
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