June 9, 2025 • 37 mins
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Are you tired of rigid diet plans that never stick? Do you feel disconnected from your body despite "doing everything right"? Join us for a refreshing conversation with Nicole King, author of "Listening to Your Body" and founder of Balance Being Nutrition, who offers a revolutionary approach to health that prioritizes self-acceptance over restriction.
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What sets Nicole's approach apart is her emphasis on individualization and sustainability. She promotes an 80/20 nutrition philosophy that allows flexibility while nourishing your body properly. "Anything rigid and restricted is not sustainable," Nicole explains, offering practical insights into why most diets eventually fail. You'll learn about her innovative "pause method" for setting boundaries, the importance of questioning whether you're pursuing health for yourself or others, and why rest deserves to be recognized as a crucial component of wellbeing.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back to Empowered Ease, the podcast
dedicated to challenging thepatriarchy and inspiring women
to take ownership of theirhealth, mind, body and soul.
Today, I have a truly inspiringguest joining us Nicole King.
Nicole's an accomplished authorof Listening to your Body.
(00:21):
She's a certified nutritionist.
She is founder of Balance beingNutrition and a dedicated
speaker and coach to women,aiming to heal food stress and
rebuild body trust.
Now, before I get a little moreinto Nicole's history, I want to
emphasize something aboutNicole that I loved.
(00:42):
I know a lot of women areturned off by anything that has
to do with weight or diet issues, because we've been berated
with it our whole lives, butNicole's approach really spoke
to me because it isindividualized to each person
and also focuses on reducingshame and the self-talk related
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to body image and food issues.
So this is a really gentleepisode If those are your
triggers.
I just wanted to start off bysaying I think she's a really
has a really differentperspective on this type of
weight loss, body image journeyand, that being said, I want to
(01:25):
tell you a little bit aboutNicole.
She is a dedicated speaker andcoach that's aiming to heal food
stress and rebuild body trust.
Her passion lies in supportingwomen who, despite appearing
fine by society standards, facequiet struggles with food
confusion, exhaustion and adisconnection from their bodies
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in general.
She intimately understands thechallenges of feeling dismissed
and stuck in survival mode, andshe has navigated her own
healing journey.
So through this journey, nicolediscovered a path centered on
self-acceptance, nourishment andnervous system safety.
Her work empowers women tobreak free from deep-rooted
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patterns, heal theirrelationship with food and
reconnect with their bodies, allwithout the burden or pressure
of shame or restriction.
It's an honor to have her heretoday to share some of her
insights and to light the wayfor women seeking peace in their
own skin.
Let's welcome Nicole King tothe show.
(02:32):
All right, welcome Nicole.
How are you doing today?
I'm good.
How are you?
I'm good.
So tell me a little bit aboutyourself and how you started
this journey and, kind of why.
Why you're passionate aboutabout this population
specifically.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Um, so it's actually crazy because I got my
certification in nutrition uhlast August.
Uh, been passionate aboutnutrition for a couple of years
and kind of getting, you know,healthier kids and all that
stuff.
You want to make sure everybodyis taken care of and I.
So I got my certification and Ioriginally was just going to be
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another nutritionist and youknow meal planning and you know
all this stuff.
And my husband works out oftown and you know he struggles
with weight gain.
So he asked me to make him acouple meal plans and I did and
you know he has a stack this big, you know, like 15 different
meal plans and three differentdays worth of them, and he just
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wasn't using them.
And I was starting to get reallyfrustrated and it took me a
minute and I took a step backand I thought this stuff is
deeper than just having a mealplan.
It's, you know, there's all thethings I got to exercise and I
got to do this and I got to dothat, and it's like if I don't
do those things, this isn'tgoing to matter.
So what's the purpose?
And I kind of, you know, took astep back and realized like I,
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no one's getting my help if I'mjust offering them a meal plan
and sending them out the door.
And it kind of evolved into youknow, a little six week program
and I had my very first clientwith that and you know it was
really good.
But by the time she felt likewe were kind of getting
somewhere, we were done, and youknow it was.
(04:26):
So I was like this this has tobe bigger.
And I actually wrote a bookbased off my little six week
program and I turned it into aneight step program and here we
are, you know the skinny girlwho struggled to gain weight and
got healthy and just wants, youknow, starting to trust, trust
my body and what it needed again.
So yeah, it was kind of just,you know, just little start at
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meal, meal plans for people to alot bigger, which I, you know,
still think about it.
And how much my mind is blownon how much it's evolved since
the end of January oh, it's abeautiful, beautiful story.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I want to dig into a bunch of it, but first I want to
tell you, I want to ask you um,so when you were kind of
digging a little deeper intothen it's more than just a meal
plan Like what were you findingthat the holdups were, or what
needs to be addressed, or whenyou were finding you need more
time with people, what are thethings that you're finding
people are working on, ratherthan just sticking to a meal
(05:23):
plan?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Well, my experience is, if I'm not exercising, then
I don't need a meal plan,because all of the you know all
of the things like you have to,you have to be lifting weights
or doing the cardio and ifyou're not, then you know and
it's just like eating things anda lot of people don't know when
they're full, they don't knowwhen they're eating, they don't
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know when they're eating out oflike an emotional distress.
You know, we're always toldgrowing up that if you're a good
girl you can have a treat oryou know all these things.
So the food has a deeperemotional.
We're finish all the food onyour plate, overeating, and it
just, it just was a whole biggerpicture.
(06:07):
And you know, I started learningmyself by tracking macros.
I thought I had to be strictwith it, to learn how to be full
and what to eat, cause I wasalways starving.
So I just ate, I just ate foodand being skinny, you can eat
whatever you want, but itdoesn't mean that you're healthy
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.
So once I started tracking formyself and recognizing what
fullness felt like and how tostay full longer and all that, I
know what it feels like to befull.
I know what my body needs whenI sit down and listen instead of
just like, oh, I need to eatsomething and I stuff it in my
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body, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So it sounds like you're addressing some of like,
the more I would say like whatdo you call that subconscious,
like programming about ourbelief and also a touch of like
the connection we have with ourbody.
I know that certain traumas andum medical conditions of people
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out of survival disconnect fromtheir body also.
Yeah, traumas, we just somepeople disconnect from their
bodies and re-forging thatconnection can be a really
intense emotional process, butit's necessary to address some
of these, like nutrition andhealth issues yes, absolutely
(07:35):
well.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
The other thing too, I know, is like, um, no one
taught me how to eat.
You know we, when we weregrowing up, we had a vegetable,
a protein and a starch at everymeal.
That there was.
No, you know, like eating wholefoods.
You know we had sidekicks andcheese whiz and all the things,
and you know they taste good butthey don't nourish your body
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and you're consistently eatingbecause of all those things.
And it just for me, it's likebecause we had all those things
as kids, the nostalgia and thefeel good.
And you know, like my side ofthe family, on my dad's side, is
very, they're very thin andeveryone's okay with it, because
we're what everyone strives tobe skinny.
(08:16):
You know, everyone has thislike you don't need to go to the
gym because you're skinny andyou can eat whatever you want.
You're so lucky and it took areally long time for me to
realize that just because I wasskinny didn't mean I was
actually healthy or felt goodLike there's a lot of people I
know I could couldn't run to theend of my driveway and back
without feeling like I was goingto have a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's what I was going to ask you.
How do you define health?
Then, right, how are we?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, so you know, know, and that's the thing with
my, my side of my dad's side ofthe family is, you know, my dad
is napping multiple times a dayon his days off because he's
eating food, but it's notfueling him, it is depleting him
.
It's probably stuff his bodycan't handle to process, it's
bogging him down.
And that's when I realized,just because we're skinny, it
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doesn't mean anything.
It it it's still.
We still need to look afterourselves and take care of what
we eat down.
And that's when I realized,just because we're skinny, it
doesn't mean anything.
It it it's still.
We still need to look afterourselves and take care of what
we eat, regardless of what wecan and can't eat.
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So educating yourself about like nutrition and what's
actually fueling your body,yeah, so what are some of the
steps that your book or yourprogram takes people through?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So my first step starts with just the foundations
of being and it's just startingto learn how to get back to
getting in touch, doing breathwork and sitting in.
My work in involves reflectionquestions and journal prompts
throughout the whole program.
So each step has its uniquequestions based on, so, you know
, foundations of being is justkind of just slowly, gently
(09:51):
checking in with things and likeasking deeper questions about
like yourself and and why you'redoing some of the things.
And then, step two, we get intoemotions a little bit more and
starting to kind of track youremotions with some of your, your
food choices.
But it's not about beingjudgmental or, you know, being
hard on yourself.
It's just like, okay, what, whyam I doing this?
(10:13):
And like, when I do this, why,you know what are?
You know maybe the things inthe background happening?
You know, is there backgroundnoise where you're like
intuitively checking out becauseyou know that you shouldn't be
making the choices?
And you know most of us growingup we have like three emotions.
It's like happy, sad and, youknow, angry and there's a whole
(10:38):
bunch more going on.
So learning how to get back intune with emotions.
And then my third step ismovement as expression, because
going to the gym is wonderful ifthat's your jam, but we're
programmed and taught that likeif you're not doing excessive
amounts of cardio and burningall the calories and doing all
this stuff, that it's, it justdoesn't count as.
But we're programmed and taughtthat like, if you're not doing
excessive amounts of cardio andburning all the calories and
doing all this stuff, that it's,it just doesn't count as as
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moving and you can clean yourhouse and you can get a good
workout in cleaning your house,like you can go for a really
good walk.
There's a whole bunch of thingsyou can do that counts as
movement.
It doesn't have to be a hardworkout at the gym, yeah, and
then pulling it in is, you know,creating sustainable patterns.
So building off of your alreadythings you do.
(11:23):
So you know, in the morning youmake coffee doing you know a
couple minutes of breath workwhile your coffee is brewing, or
you know, doing some stretchingor doing things like that and
just building little things thathelp you connect back with
yourself while you're alreadydoing things.
And then boundaries and andlearning how to take care of all
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this stuff on your own once youtake off on your own.
So I just build on the stepsthroughout my program, and
there's eight of them.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So I love that.
I love your description of yourprogram, because I think like
when we start to talk aboutnutrition, a lot of people think
dieting and it's like an X word, like.
I have, like my good, good, goodfriend, like anything involved
in where she thinks they'regoing to talk about diet.
She's like nope out, not at alland she is due to her own
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personal battles where she'sbeen very, very focused on it.
It's due to her own personalbattles where she's been very,
very focused on it and I canspeak now, at the age I am now,
like I have a very good, healthyrelationship with my body and I
don't have like it's rarely anissue.
But I will say that I spentlike my entire 20s, and I would
say maybe my entire 30s, veryfocused on my body all the time.
(12:35):
And I know it wasn't like askinny I wasn't very skinny, I
wasn't super overweight either,but I know, for a lot of women
and men too, that our bodies andfood is something we're
constantly aware of and shamingourselves about, like we're
almost in our own way.
And what I love about yourprogram is that it's a personal
approach, because I think thatthat is the key to a lot of
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things nowadays people arefinding out for themselves
what's working.
You're encouraging people totake a look inward and really
find those answers forthemselves.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, well, we're all unique.
We all have different needs andwants and desires and dreams
and our bodies are the same.
Like what works for one persondoesn't work for someone else.
And I cringe nowadays athearing like, oh, I'm doing, you
know, the carnivore diet or I'mdoing keto, and it's always a
quick fix and it's notsustainable and nine times out
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of 10, you don't come off of itproperly.
So everything you did,everything you worked for, all
the weight you lost or whateveryour reasoning behind, comes
back times 10.
And you're more frustrated.
And I have a friend who did ketoand she was really successful.
But she's in her 50s and shehas hormonal things going on
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with menopause and she lost allthe weight and stopped doing
keto and loosely stuck with itand put all of the weight back
on and tried to do keto againand her body won't go into
ketosis like it did beforebecause it's not meant to be a
lifestyle.
It's what is a sustainablelifestyle.
I have like an 80-20 rule withwith my clients, to where 80% of
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your food needs to be wholesome, good, healthy stuff, and then
there's room for 20% If you wantto go out for dinner or you
want to order pizza or you wantto have a glass of wine or
whatever you want to do, likethere has to be flexibility,
Because anything that's rigidand restricted is not
sustainable.
We get to a rebellious part ofour life where we're like, okay,
I don't want to do this anymore, Like this is stupid.
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And then everything goes outthe window and and then you're
starting at ground zero.
You've thrown everything you'vedone away because it's too
rigid and restricted and it'snot manageable, and I don't want
that for people.
I want them to find theirrhythm and know that if they
have a whole week where they eatlike crap because they're on
vacation, that it's okay.
Like you're going to be okay.
(15:02):
I can't hear you.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Can you hear me now?
Yes, I can.
I think it died.
It's okay, we'll edit that partout um.
So I love that you say that,though, because shame is such a
powerful um factor in holdingpeople back, and it's really
something we inflict onourselves it's a hundred percent
something we've like, thatourselves we like and I love
(15:36):
that you're talking about thesestrict diets too, because that's
something, luckily, I've alwaysknown about myself is that I
can't stick to strict things orI definitely will sabotage.
But I think a lot of peoplefall into that trap and it's
really the key to happiness, todeveloping a relationship with
yourself, to all of those things, to finding balance, is finding
sustainable ways and alsoeducating yourself, because
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there's you don't have to eatwhat like.
What your healthy things are,that you love can look very
different from like what yourhusband probably healthy eats,
and loves, you know what I meanso yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, one of the other things I found is that are
you doing it for yourself?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
doing it because everybody else wants you to look
a certain way and, at the endof the day, if that's the case,
somebody is always going to havesomething to say about what you
look like or what you eat, oryou know all of the things.
Somebody's always going to havesomething to say.
So, are you doing it becausesomebody made you, you know it
made you feel like you had tobecause, like, at one point, I
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was going to the gym and I, youknow, I'm super proud of myself
for everything.
I didn't, wasn't aware I wascapable of putting muscle on
like I did and being as strongas I was.
I didn't do it for myself,though.
I was trying to prove to theworld that I was not this skinny
little girl and could, you know, build muscle and be strong,
and I wasn't weak.
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And, you know, I did reallygood.
For six or eight months I didreally good and I put on some
good muscle, but I was followingmacros to the T and restricting
, you know things, and you know,at that point that's when I
kind of took a step back and Iwas like this isn't about me,
this is about everybody else.
Like, I will go back to the gym.
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I'm still working through thatright now myself, where you know
like I'm not in a placementally where I can go to the
gym and do it for myself.
I'm still trying to prove tothe world that I'm not this
skinny little girl, and until Ifully work through my own things
, I have decided the gym is nota place for me to be.
So, yeah, so like that's partof part of it as well too.
(17:45):
You know, are you doing it foryou?
Are you doing it because ofeverybody else?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I love that.
I can relate, like I think thatthe gym also is like a real
source of trauma for a lot ofpeople.
Personally, like dad used todrag us in there when we were
little and I am so uncomfortablein a gym setting.
I also spent like a ridiculousamount of time in college being
forced to be in one like twice aday when I did college sports,
so it was like now walking in agym.
I like have had a panic attackworking with out with my husband
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before and he's like what iswrong with you?
I'm I'm like I don't know, it'sthis place.
Like it's this place, I can't.
It just stresses me out.
So there's a lot that may soundsilly, but it's true.
Like a lot of us have some verybig sensitivities around gyms,
nutrition, our bodies, so thisis a huge topic for a lot of
people.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
A lot of us don't like it, though Like we want to
yeah, well, and that's true,right, but it's just like get in
there and do the work foryourself.
What, what do you want to do?
What makes you happy?
Like it's.
It's like finding your dreamcareer.
It's the same deal, it's it'sin a different area what are you
happy?
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Yeah, no matter what it is.
What's your wife?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
healthy, to engage, it like to be happy.
A lot of times health is a bigpart of that.
It holds you back if you're nothealthy and you hit a certain
age.
I see you nurse telling youthis year like it starts
catching up with you and the endof your people's lives look
very different, determined onhow they address their nutrition
and their physical health.
And it's not saying like go tothe, the gym every day, that's
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saying like out in the sun andwalk and eat some vegetables.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, absolutely Like there are things you know, like
just learning to look at the inthe ingredients and things and
deciding you know.
Like tracking, like after youeat, something like not tracking
what you ate and how much youate, but like writing down if
you're starting to feel foggybrained and things like write
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down what you're eating andstart tracking the things and
start trying to pinpoint.
Like okay, is it this food oris it something in this food?
We switched flowers.
We have a local source here.
There's a farm and they dostone milled flour and it's not
processed with all the chemicalsthat they put.
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Flour from the grocery store istreated with Roundup.
They dry the flour out withthat.
So when you're baking, youmight be baking at home but
still feeling like you have tocut out gluten.
It might not be the.
It might be the chemicalsthey've treated the flour with.
So, like just starting to checkin with some of the things
you're eating and doing.
You don't have to cut out breadand you don't have to cut the
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gluten out and you don't have tocut the things out Where's it
coming from and what's in it.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, focusing on what's making you feel good and
what you don't feel good.
Honestly, I don't even thinkyou have to try that hard.
If you draw those connections,it's not effort anymore, like
you know in your brain, like I'meither willing to feel bad for
this today or I'm not, and thenit puts power in your hands and
I like that.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Right, well, and and energetically.
Sometimes you're in a placewhere that thing normally would
make you feel bad and you canhave it and you're okay yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'm doing this empowered.
I'm choosing this yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, and if you're, you know, it's like
there's days where you needextra whole foods and extra
nutrition and extra love andthere's days where you can just
kind of be wishy-washy and it'sokay, like it's, I just it, it
just all this structure andrigid rule stuff just makes me
I'm like it doesn't have to bethis hard, it doesn't have to be
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this hard.
It doesn't have to be this hard,it's not sustainable life
happens and we have to be ableto move and like and we have to
know how to pick ourselves backup and know our know ourselves,
like we have to really knowourselves to be successful at a
lot of things and and knowingwhen to not have to pick
yourself back up and giveyourself that time to be down
and be okay with it, because thethe world doesn't allow rest or
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slowing down either.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I'm so glad you said that, because it's an essential
part of health, and it is likeif you're shaming yourself while
you can't get off the couch,you're not resting either like
you have to.
We have to allow ourselves torest, like your body's telling
you, like I don don't want tomove today, don't.
If you can, don't move and belike happy that you're able to
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give that to yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I have a client that we we worked through.
That movement as expression isstep three in my program but
we've had to work it throughouther whole program because she is
in her early forties and youknow, whole life is like you got
to move, you got to exercise,you got to do this or you didn't
do anything.
And she, she's I'm so proud ofthe work, like how far she's
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come because she's she works ademanding job, she works at a
daycare, she's with littlepeople all day long.
It's mentally demanding, yeah,and mental, like the mental
exhaustion, and she's upgradingher schooling right now for her,
um, young childhood development, and you know she's doing so
many things.
And then she's like but Ididn't get 10,000 steps in today
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, my watch didn't.
And I said, well, what did youget in today then?
And she said, well, about 7,500.
I said, so, set your watch to7,000 steps and celebrate the
fact that you got 7,000 stepsinstead of being like, well, I
didn't hit 10,000.
You hit 7,000 and you did awhole bunch of other things and
now you're tired, your body'stired.
You had a physically demandingday, a mentally demanding day,
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an emotionally demanding day,depending on where the kids are.
They're little people.
They have emotions and be okaywith sitting down when you get
home and taking 15 minutes andjust breathing through your life
, like, just pause, it's okay.
And we've been practicing thepause technique with her, where
she doesn't make any decisionswhen she's, you know, talking to
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people about making plans ordoing things.
And I said I said pause, tellthem, I need to see what's going
on in my life right now and Iwill get back to you and, you
know, decide.
If it's 15 minutes an hour, youknow they need a deadline, and
if it's a no like if right awayyour body says no, it's a no,
you don't have to say yes.
And if those people get mad atyou, then those people don't
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understand things and that'sokay, like that's their issue to
work through.
And so she's been working onthe pause method and it she said
you know she's put a lot ofboundaries down on doing things
and like that she wants to do.
And if you know, obviouslythere's times we need to step up
and help other people and it'snot really about us some days.
There are days where you justhave to be there for people, but
people are always expectingeveryone else to be there for
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them and they're not there foryou.
So when?
When is that balance and wheredo you set the boundary?
So it's been pretty amazing towatch that unfold with the pause
and the exercise.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I love that.
I love that.
It's so funny that you say that, because today a really good
friend of mine sent me thisshe's like you're not going to
believe what I did today Causeshe's like that, she's like a.
Very I envy her ability to selfmotivate, but she doesn't have
her own detriment.
Like she said for herself shefinishes it, whether she has to
drag herself through it most ofthe time.
Right, and she's a big Pelotongirl and she sent me this alert
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saying she broke her 251 daystreak by taking a day off.
And she took her smartwatch offand she's like I'm rearranging
what I'm doing in my life Now.
Mind you, she runs a rescuefarm where she has goats, a
horse, a pony.
She's out there every day doingthis.
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She's so active and I was justlike keep it moving moment,
because she's like I did, I'mfinally like letting this shit
go, because it's like a lot ofus hold ourselves to
unreasonable standards, like isit?
really helping us is it?
Really what we need?
Is it really health?
Well, it's mostly exterior.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's mostly exterior what we see on tv the
commercials, the ads, the youknow the people that have been
doing stuff.
You know like there are peoplethat are wired and built for
that kind of life and that'sokay, but like not everybody is.
It's unrealistic to think thatyou're gonna be that way and
taking your job, you'reexhausted.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
If you're exhausted, are you healthy?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
well, and that's the thing.
There's so many people, I know,that the weight, their weight
gain, is stress and the stressis exhaustion and the exhaustion
is because they don't stop,they have to.
Like my husband struggles sohard with that, like you know
he's he's he's wired to be aprovider and I love him to death
(26:17):
for that.
But it's like there's days I'mlike like, what are you doing?
We're doing nothing.
We're going to lay in bed anddrink lattes and watch TV.
And somebody says like, but Igotta, I want to go do something
.
And I'm like, no, we're notdoing stuff today.
Yeah, like you know, and it's,I think, can't be bored, can't
stop moving.
Gotta, you know, if you'rethere, spare time, we got to fit
(26:42):
something in there.
And it's like fitting, we'refitting in TV and lattes, that's
what we're fitting in today,like having have a nap, I don't
care.
Have a gummy, have an edibleand go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I love that.
I love that Cause.
I think this is what we need.
We've been like perspectivebecause I think this is what we
need.
We've been like force-fed thiscrazy hustle culture I like to
call it so long, especially aswomen and as moms, trying to be
perfect in all these ways andreally all we've gained from it
is like a really high innercritic and a lot of shame, which
(27:12):
helps nobody like.
Renee Brown tells us that shameis no good.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah.
Yeah Well you know, we have allthe technology to make our lives
easier and somehow it's becomemore complicated, it doesn't?
It blows my mind, thinking backwhen my mom had me, she had to
figure out how to hit the bankin bank hours, which were work
hours.
Everyone managed to get thereto get their paycheck to the
(27:38):
bank and do all their bankingand pay all their bills.
People can't even manage andthey have everything at the
touch of their fingers.
Because they're adding more.
Yeah, yeah.
Why are we adding more?
Because we have all of thiseasy technology.
Stop adding more to your plate.
I love that.
I love adding it.
I'm management.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Focus on what really matters, prioritize I that I
love it.
I'm management focus on whatreally matters, prioritize, I
love that.
So if people are hearing thisand they're like, yes, yes, yes,
yes, this is me Do you workwith people virtually or just
where you are?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I just I work a hundred percent online, so I
have um, I do, I work throughGoogle meets, but um, I yeah, I
work online so I can helpanybody pretty much anywhere, as
long as our schedules work out,and I mostly work with women.
But I, you know, men havetroubles too, and if they this
(28:29):
is something that speaks to themen I'm open to helping whoever
needs what I offer, because Idon't think there's much of it.
I specifically struggle theskinny girl life.
I, you know, know that life,but it doesn't matter your shape
or size, it doesn't, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, it's about reforging that, that
relationship with yourself.
I love that.
So if people want to work withyou, how, how can they find you
or where should?
And also like can they find youor where should?
And also like, if they're notready yet, maybe like where can
they start at home?
So um.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I have a free gift that I have um on my website, um
and we'll put this in the shownotes.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
It'll.
There'll be a link in the shownotes too, sorry, yes.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Um, so I have a three day trust your body guide and
it's just like a a little, alittle, a little taste.
A few people are like, wow,this is a huge free gift.
And I said, yeah, but it's noteven the tip of the iceberg on
what I get into work with Everyday.
There's a couple of questionsabout just kind of touching back
in with yourself and it's athree-day thing and it's
something really, if you reallywanted to like get to it, you
(29:36):
could recycle it and use it overand over and over, and it's
just checking in with thosequestions, you know, and and
doing it for a week.
You know, like do that specificstep for one week and start to
get really good at noticing thelittle things.
Um, so I have a free gift forthat um that is downloadable and
(29:56):
pdf.
You can print it off or howeveryou want to do it, little
worksheets involved with thequestions.
Um, and then, yeah, on mywebsite, um, I do free consults.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I have a 30 minute free consults what your website
is, in case people just want tohear it.
Yes, it's bb nutritionca.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Um, and what are bb like?
Is it boy boy like balancedbeing, so bbnutritionca?
And what are BB like?
As in, boy boy Like balancedbeing, so BB nutrition?
Yeah, balanced being nutrition,but BB, so it's not so many
words.
Yeah, perfect ca, and I havethere's.
You know my, I have a groupprogram launching right away on
(30:35):
can't remember the date, I thinkit's June 4.
At 2pm Mountain Standard Time,I I have is the first class and
so I have that launching rightaway.
But I also do one-on-one workand I do have a free consult.
So if anyone wants to justreach out and see, you know,
connect and see what it's liketo work together, um, I, I have
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that as well.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So Beautiful and I always ask everyone this
question that comes on.
So what's your like?
Go-to self-care?
Whenever things are like out ofcontrol, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Uh, I was my last guest self-nurture, your
self-nurture.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
She wanted to be self-nurture.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well, I recently found a local farm that does
cream and stuff, so I don't buyit from the store because
typically dairy bothers me.
But I found this.
I switched from oat milk overand I make my own lattes at home
.
My favorite is a lavender whitechocolate mocha Um.
(31:36):
My favorite is a lavender whitechocolate mocha Um.
And I really like to watchNetflix.
Or you know, my husband and Iare reality TV junkies either
ghost adventures or true crimestuff, or or any chick flick
like comedy type thing, um.
Or when it's nice, we like togo camping, so that is, go out
to the wilderness where there'sno signal, no wi-fi, no cell
(32:00):
service, and we have a littlemotor home that we we did last
year.
And we like to spend a lot oftime out in the mountains
because we're from the mountainprovince.
So that's a couple of thingsthat that I like to do um
nurturing it.
It depends on the day.
I think it just depends.
Some days it's a hot bath andsome days it's sitting out in
the sunshine while my dog bakesher baked potato self Cause
(32:22):
she's a pit bull and she lovesthe sun.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I love that.
I love that you make yourselflike a little fancy cocktail and
like do a little like guiltypleasure too, though, because
that is health too.
You know what I mean.
Like I do some healthy things,but also sometimes just like
numbing and doing something alittle sweet for yourself, you
know, making yourself somethingfancy, showing yourself you're
worth it, and unplugging, Ithink that's just like awesome.
(32:49):
I love that, cause it's notwhat people would typically
think of as self-nurturing, butit is a self-nurturing act, it's
very specific to you and it's abeautiful example.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, yeah, I just kind of I'm like what do I feel
like doing?
Part of my daily is self-care.
It's part of my daily.
So what am I going to do today?
Am I going to go take my dogfor a walk?
Are we going to sit out in thesunshine and have a coffee?
Are we going to have a bubblebath?
Am I going to turn on anepisode of a show that I like
watching?
It's it's just kind of likewhat am I going to do?
(33:20):
But it's also learning how tonot get wrapped up in just doing
self-care, because there's, youknow, things in life that we
have to do, and it's easy to belike I don't want to, and it's
some days we have to anyways,but we do need to make daily
self-care a thing.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I, I love that balance.
It's so important Right andright, perfect.
You know that relationship withourselves we have to nurture.
So that's awesome.
So is there anything you'd liketo leave us with?
It's been wonderful talking toyou today.
I've absolutely loved yourinsights.
Sorry, my puppy is beingannoying, but anything you'd
like to leave us with todaybefore we go?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I think, just starting like, just start to
take a minute and just decide ifit's something that's for you
or if it's for somebody else.
And if it's for somebody else,sit and consider if it's
something that you feel in yourheart you need to do, or if it's
something that you, that youfeel in your heart, you need to
do, or if it's something youfeel obligated, because if, if
you're not taking care ofyourself and and doing it for
(34:23):
yourself, it's, it's it'sdamaging and it's it's we've
just been taught our whole lives.
You know, especially, I'm a momand it's like your kids and
your kids and your kids and it'slike, okay, but what about me?
At the end of the day, whathappens when my, my kids are
gone?
My oldest is turning 21 nextweek.
Like she's, she pays her ownbills.
Like we have a relationship,but I'm not her mom anymore.
(34:47):
You know, like I'm, we'refriends.
Now we have a friendship.
And who?
Who am I now?
You know so I, you can't, youcan't keep pushing for everybody
else, cause when all thatdisappears.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
what do you have left ?
That's great advice, Absolutelygreat advice and I think a lot
of women are probably in thatplace right now and having these
similar thoughts, and so it'svery powerful statement.
Thank you so much, um.
If you ever have anything newlaunching, look us up again.
I'd love to have you back andtalk with you yes, I would love
to do this again.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It was a lot of fun, thank you yeah.
Welcome back to Empowered Ease, the podcast
dedicated to challenging thepatriarchy and inspiring women
to take ownership of theirhealth, mind, body and soul.
Today, I have a truly inspiringguest joining us Nicole King.
Nicole's an accomplished authorof Listening to your Body.
(00:21):
She's a certified nutritionist.
She is founder of Balance beingNutrition and a dedicated
speaker and coach to women,aiming to heal food stress and
rebuild body trust.
Now, before I get a little moreinto Nicole's history, I want to
emphasize something aboutNicole that I loved.
(00:42):
I know a lot of women areturned off by anything that has
to do with weight or diet issues, because we've been berated
with it our whole lives, butNicole's approach really spoke
to me because it isindividualized to each person
and also focuses on reducingshame and the self-talk related
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to body image and food issues.
So this is a really gentleepisode If those are your
triggers.
I just wanted to start off bysaying I think she's a really
has a really differentperspective on this type of
weight loss, body image journeyand, that being said, I want to
(01:25):
tell you a little bit aboutNicole.
She is a dedicated speaker andcoach that's aiming to heal food
stress and rebuild body trust.
Her passion lies in supportingwomen who, despite appearing
fine by society standards, facequiet struggles with food
confusion, exhaustion and adisconnection from their bodies
(01:47):
in general.
She intimately understands thechallenges of feeling dismissed
and stuck in survival mode, andshe has navigated her own
healing journey.
So through this journey, nicolediscovered a path centered on
self-acceptance, nourishment andnervous system safety.
Her work empowers women tobreak free from deep-rooted
(02:08):
patterns, heal theirrelationship with food and
reconnect with their bodies, allwithout the burden or pressure
of shame or restriction.
It's an honor to have her heretoday to share some of her
insights and to light the wayfor women seeking peace in their
own skin.
Let's welcome Nicole King tothe show.
(02:32):
All right, welcome Nicole.
How are you doing today?
I'm good.
How are you?
I'm good.
So tell me a little bit aboutyourself and how you started
this journey and, kind of why.
Why you're passionate aboutabout this population
specifically.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Um, so it's actually crazy because I got my
certification in nutrition uhlast August.
Uh, been passionate aboutnutrition for a couple of years
and kind of getting, you know,healthier kids and all that
stuff.
You want to make sure everybodyis taken care of and I.
So I got my certification and Ioriginally was just going to be
(03:16):
another nutritionist and youknow meal planning and you know
all this stuff.
And my husband works out oftown and you know he struggles
with weight gain.
So he asked me to make him acouple meal plans and I did and
you know he has a stack this big, you know, like 15 different
meal plans and three differentdays worth of them, and he just
(03:40):
wasn't using them.
And I was starting to get reallyfrustrated and it took me a
minute and I took a step backand I thought this stuff is
deeper than just having a mealplan.
It's, you know, there's all thethings I got to exercise and I
got to do this and I got to dothat, and it's like if I don't
do those things, this isn'tgoing to matter.
So what's the purpose?
And I kind of, you know, took astep back and realized like I,
(04:04):
no one's getting my help if I'mjust offering them a meal plan
and sending them out the door.
And it kind of evolved into youknow, a little six week program
and I had my very first clientwith that and you know it was
really good.
But by the time she felt likewe were kind of getting
somewhere, we were done, and youknow it was.
(04:26):
So I was like this this has tobe bigger.
And I actually wrote a bookbased off my little six week
program and I turned it into aneight step program and here we
are, you know the skinny girlwho struggled to gain weight and
got healthy and just wants, youknow, starting to trust, trust
my body and what it needed again.
So yeah, it was kind of just,you know, just little start at
(04:47):
meal, meal plans for people to alot bigger, which I, you know,
still think about it.
And how much my mind is blownon how much it's evolved since
the end of January oh, it's abeautiful, beautiful story.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I want to dig into a bunch of it, but first I want to
tell you, I want to ask you um,so when you were kind of
digging a little deeper intothen it's more than just a meal
plan Like what were you findingthat the holdups were, or what
needs to be addressed, or whenyou were finding you need more
time with people, what are thethings that you're finding
people are working on, ratherthan just sticking to a meal
(05:23):
plan?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Well, my experience is, if I'm not exercising, then
I don't need a meal plan,because all of the you know all
of the things like you have to,you have to be lifting weights
or doing the cardio and ifyou're not, then you know and
it's just like eating things anda lot of people don't know when
they're full, they don't knowwhen they're eating, they don't
(05:46):
know when they're eating out oflike an emotional distress.
You know, we're always toldgrowing up that if you're a good
girl you can have a treat oryou know all these things.
So the food has a deeperemotional.
We're finish all the food onyour plate, overeating, and it
just, it just was a whole biggerpicture.
(06:07):
And you know, I started learningmyself by tracking macros.
I thought I had to be strictwith it, to learn how to be full
and what to eat, cause I wasalways starving.
So I just ate, I just ate foodand being skinny, you can eat
whatever you want, but itdoesn't mean that you're healthy
(06:28):
.
So once I started tracking formyself and recognizing what
fullness felt like and how tostay full longer and all that, I
know what it feels like to befull.
I know what my body needs whenI sit down and listen instead of
just like, oh, I need to eatsomething and I stuff it in my
(06:50):
body, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So it sounds like you're addressing some of like,
the more I would say like whatdo you call that subconscious,
like programming about ourbelief and also a touch of like
the connection we have with ourbody.
I know that certain traumas andum medical conditions of people
(07:13):
out of survival disconnect fromtheir body also.
Yeah, traumas, we just somepeople disconnect from their
bodies and re-forging thatconnection can be a really
intense emotional process, butit's necessary to address some
of these, like nutrition andhealth issues yes, absolutely
(07:35):
well.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
The other thing too, I know, is like, um, no one
taught me how to eat.
You know we, when we weregrowing up, we had a vegetable,
a protein and a starch at everymeal.
That there was.
No, you know, like eating wholefoods.
You know we had sidekicks andcheese whiz and all the things,
and you know they taste good butthey don't nourish your body
(07:56):
and you're consistently eatingbecause of all those things.
And it just for me, it's likebecause we had all those things
as kids, the nostalgia and thefeel good.
And you know, like my side ofthe family, on my dad's side, is
very, they're very thin andeveryone's okay with it, because
we're what everyone strives tobe skinny.
(08:16):
You know, everyone has thislike you don't need to go to the
gym because you're skinny andyou can eat whatever you want.
You're so lucky and it took areally long time for me to
realize that just because I wasskinny didn't mean I was
actually healthy or felt goodLike there's a lot of people I
know I could couldn't run to theend of my driveway and back
without feeling like I was goingto have a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's what I was going to ask you.
How do you define health?
Then, right, how are we?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, so you know, know, and that's the thing with
my, my side of my dad's side ofthe family is, you know, my dad
is napping multiple times a dayon his days off because he's
eating food, but it's notfueling him, it is depleting him
.
It's probably stuff his bodycan't handle to process, it's
bogging him down.
And that's when I realized,just because we're skinny, it
(09:03):
doesn't mean anything.
It it it's still.
We still need to look afterourselves and take care of what
we eat down.
And that's when I realized,just because we're skinny, it
doesn't mean anything.
It it it's still.
We still need to look afterourselves and take care of what
we eat, regardless of what wecan and can't eat.
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So educating yourself about like nutrition and what's
actually fueling your body,yeah, so what are some of the
steps that your book or yourprogram takes people through?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So my first step starts with just the foundations
of being and it's just startingto learn how to get back to
getting in touch, doing breathwork and sitting in.
My work in involves reflectionquestions and journal prompts
throughout the whole program.
So each step has its uniquequestions based on, so, you know
, foundations of being is justkind of just slowly, gently
(09:51):
checking in with things and likeasking deeper questions about
like yourself and and why you'redoing some of the things.
And then, step two, we get intoemotions a little bit more and
starting to kind of track youremotions with some of your, your
food choices.
But it's not about beingjudgmental or, you know, being
hard on yourself.
It's just like, okay, what, whyam I doing this?
(10:13):
And like, when I do this, why,you know what are?
You know maybe the things inthe background happening?
You know, is there backgroundnoise where you're like
intuitively checking out becauseyou know that you shouldn't be
making the choices?
And you know most of us growingup we have like three emotions.
It's like happy, sad and, youknow, angry and there's a whole
(10:38):
bunch more going on.
So learning how to get back intune with emotions.
And then my third step ismovement as expression, because
going to the gym is wonderful ifthat's your jam, but we're
programmed and taught that likeif you're not doing excessive
amounts of cardio and burningall the calories and doing all
this stuff, that it's, it justdoesn't count as.
But we're programmed and taughtthat like, if you're not doing
excessive amounts of cardio andburning all the calories and
doing all this stuff, that it's,it just doesn't count as as
(11:00):
moving and you can clean yourhouse and you can get a good
workout in cleaning your house,like you can go for a really
good walk.
There's a whole bunch of thingsyou can do that counts as
movement.
It doesn't have to be a hardworkout at the gym, yeah, and
then pulling it in is, you know,creating sustainable patterns.
So building off of your alreadythings you do.
(11:23):
So you know, in the morning youmake coffee doing you know a
couple minutes of breath workwhile your coffee is brewing, or
you know, doing some stretchingor doing things like that and
just building little things thathelp you connect back with
yourself while you're alreadydoing things.
And then boundaries and andlearning how to take care of all
(11:43):
this stuff on your own once youtake off on your own.
So I just build on the stepsthroughout my program, and
there's eight of them.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So I love that.
I love your description of yourprogram, because I think like
when we start to talk aboutnutrition, a lot of people think
dieting and it's like an X word, like.
I have, like my good, good, goodfriend, like anything involved
in where she thinks they'regoing to talk about diet.
She's like nope out, not at alland she is due to her own
(12:12):
personal battles where she'sbeen very, very focused on it.
It's due to her own personalbattles where she's been very,
very focused on it and I canspeak now, at the age I am now,
like I have a very good, healthyrelationship with my body and I
don't have like it's rarely anissue.
But I will say that I spentlike my entire 20s, and I would
say maybe my entire 30s, veryfocused on my body all the time.
(12:35):
And I know it wasn't like askinny I wasn't very skinny, I
wasn't super overweight either,but I know, for a lot of women
and men too, that our bodies andfood is something we're
constantly aware of and shamingourselves about, like we're
almost in our own way.
And what I love about yourprogram is that it's a personal
approach, because I think thatthat is the key to a lot of
(12:59):
things nowadays people arefinding out for themselves
what's working.
You're encouraging people totake a look inward and really
find those answers forthemselves.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, well, we're all unique.
We all have different needs andwants and desires and dreams
and our bodies are the same.
Like what works for one persondoesn't work for someone else.
And I cringe nowadays athearing like, oh, I'm doing, you
know, the carnivore diet or I'mdoing keto, and it's always a
quick fix and it's notsustainable and nine times out
(13:32):
of 10, you don't come off of itproperly.
So everything you did,everything you worked for, all
the weight you lost or whateveryour reasoning behind, comes
back times 10.
And you're more frustrated.
And I have a friend who did ketoand she was really successful.
But she's in her 50s and shehas hormonal things going on
(13:53):
with menopause and she lost allthe weight and stopped doing
keto and loosely stuck with itand put all of the weight back
on and tried to do keto againand her body won't go into
ketosis like it did beforebecause it's not meant to be a
lifestyle.
It's what is a sustainablelifestyle.
I have like an 80-20 rule withwith my clients, to where 80% of
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your food needs to be wholesome, good, healthy stuff, and then
there's room for 20% If you wantto go out for dinner or you
want to order pizza or you wantto have a glass of wine or
whatever you want to do, likethere has to be flexibility,
Because anything that's rigidand restricted is not
sustainable.
We get to a rebellious part ofour life where we're like, okay,
I don't want to do this anymore, Like this is stupid.
(14:40):
And then everything goes outthe window and and then you're
starting at ground zero.
You've thrown everything you'vedone away because it's too
rigid and restricted and it'snot manageable, and I don't want
that for people.
I want them to find theirrhythm and know that if they
have a whole week where they eatlike crap because they're on
vacation, that it's okay.
Like you're going to be okay.
(15:02):
I can't hear you.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Can you hear me now?
Yes, I can.
I think it died.
It's okay, we'll edit that partout um.
So I love that you say that,though, because shame is such a
powerful um factor in holdingpeople back, and it's really
something we inflict onourselves it's a hundred percent
something we've like, thatourselves we like and I love
(15:36):
that you're talking about thesestrict diets too, because that's
something, luckily, I've alwaysknown about myself is that I
can't stick to strict things orI definitely will sabotage.
But I think a lot of peoplefall into that trap and it's
really the key to happiness, todeveloping a relationship with
yourself, to all of those things, to finding balance, is finding
sustainable ways and alsoeducating yourself, because
(15:58):
there's you don't have to eatwhat like.
What your healthy things are,that you love can look very
different from like what yourhusband probably healthy eats,
and loves, you know what I meanso yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, one of the other things I found is that are
you doing it for yourself?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
doing it because everybody else wants you to look
a certain way and, at the endof the day, if that's the case,
somebody is always going to havesomething to say about what you
look like or what you eat, oryou know all of the things.
Somebody's always going to havesomething to say.
So, are you doing it becausesomebody made you, you know it
made you feel like you had tobecause, like, at one point, I
(16:38):
was going to the gym and I, youknow, I'm super proud of myself
for everything.
I didn't, wasn't aware I wascapable of putting muscle on
like I did and being as strongas I was.
I didn't do it for myself,though.
I was trying to prove to theworld that I was not this skinny
little girl and could, you know, build muscle and be strong,
and I wasn't weak.
(16:58):
And, you know, I did reallygood.
For six or eight months I didreally good and I put on some
good muscle, but I was followingmacros to the T and restricting
, you know things, and you know,at that point that's when I
kind of took a step back and Iwas like this isn't about me,
this is about everybody else.
Like, I will go back to the gym.
(17:20):
I'm still working through thatright now myself, where you know
like I'm not in a placementally where I can go to the
gym and do it for myself.
I'm still trying to prove tothe world that I'm not this
skinny little girl, and until Ifully work through my own things
, I have decided the gym is nota place for me to be.
So, yeah, so like that's partof part of it as well too.
(17:45):
You know, are you doing it foryou?
Are you doing it because ofeverybody else?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I love that.
I can relate, like I think thatthe gym also is like a real
source of trauma for a lot ofpeople.
Personally, like dad used todrag us in there when we were
little and I am so uncomfortablein a gym setting.
I also spent like a ridiculousamount of time in college being
forced to be in one like twice aday when I did college sports,
so it was like now walking in agym.
I like have had a panic attackworking with out with my husband
(18:11):
before and he's like what iswrong with you?
I'm I'm like I don't know, it'sthis place.
Like it's this place, I can't.
It just stresses me out.
So there's a lot that may soundsilly, but it's true.
Like a lot of us have some verybig sensitivities around gyms,
nutrition, our bodies, so thisis a huge topic for a lot of
people.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
A lot of us don't like it, though Like we want to
yeah, well, and that's true,right, but it's just like get in
there and do the work foryourself.
What, what do you want to do?
What makes you happy?
Like it's.
It's like finding your dreamcareer.
It's the same deal, it's it'sin a different area what are you
happy?
(18:50):
Yeah, no matter what it is.
What's your wife?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
healthy, to engage, it like to be happy.
A lot of times health is a bigpart of that.
It holds you back if you're nothealthy and you hit a certain
age.
I see you nurse telling youthis year like it starts
catching up with you and the endof your people's lives look
very different, determined onhow they address their nutrition
and their physical health.
And it's not saying like go tothe, the gym every day, that's
(19:14):
saying like out in the sun andwalk and eat some vegetables.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, absolutely Like there are things you know, like
just learning to look at the inthe ingredients and things and
deciding you know.
Like tracking, like after youeat, something like not tracking
what you ate and how much youate, but like writing down if
you're starting to feel foggybrained and things like write
(19:39):
down what you're eating andstart tracking the things and
start trying to pinpoint.
Like okay, is it this food oris it something in this food?
We switched flowers.
We have a local source here.
There's a farm and they dostone milled flour and it's not
processed with all the chemicalsthat they put.
(20:00):
Flour from the grocery store istreated with Roundup.
They dry the flour out withthat.
So when you're baking, youmight be baking at home but
still feeling like you have tocut out gluten.
It might not be the.
It might be the chemicalsthey've treated the flour with.
So, like just starting to checkin with some of the things
you're eating and doing.
You don't have to cut out breadand you don't have to cut the
(20:23):
gluten out and you don't have tocut the things out Where's it
coming from and what's in it.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, focusing on what's making you feel good and
what you don't feel good.
Honestly, I don't even thinkyou have to try that hard.
If you draw those connections,it's not effort anymore, like
you know in your brain, like I'meither willing to feel bad for
this today or I'm not, and thenit puts power in your hands and
I like that.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Right, well, and and energetically.
Sometimes you're in a placewhere that thing normally would
make you feel bad and you canhave it and you're okay yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'm doing this empowered.
I'm choosing this yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, and if you're, you know, it's like
there's days where you needextra whole foods and extra
nutrition and extra love andthere's days where you can just
kind of be wishy-washy and it'sokay, like it's, I just it, it
just all this structure andrigid rule stuff just makes me
I'm like it doesn't have to bethis hard, it doesn't have to be
(21:19):
this hard.
It doesn't have to be this hard,it's not sustainable life
happens and we have to be ableto move and like and we have to
know how to pick ourselves backup and know our know ourselves,
like we have to really knowourselves to be successful at a
lot of things and and knowingwhen to not have to pick
yourself back up and giveyourself that time to be down
and be okay with it, because thethe world doesn't allow rest or
(21:40):
slowing down either.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I'm so glad you said that, because it's an essential
part of health, and it is likeif you're shaming yourself while
you can't get off the couch,you're not resting either like
you have to.
We have to allow ourselves torest, like your body's telling
you, like I don don't want tomove today, don't.
If you can, don't move and belike happy that you're able to
(22:02):
give that to yourself.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I have a client that we we worked through.
That movement as expression isstep three in my program but
we've had to work it throughouther whole program because she is
in her early forties and youknow, whole life is like you got
to move, you got to exercise,you got to do this or you didn't
do anything.
And she, she's I'm so proud ofthe work, like how far she's
(22:28):
come because she's she works ademanding job, she works at a
daycare, she's with littlepeople all day long.
It's mentally demanding, yeah,and mental, like the mental
exhaustion, and she's upgradingher schooling right now for her,
um, young childhood development, and you know she's doing so
many things.
And then she's like but Ididn't get 10,000 steps in today
(22:49):
, my watch didn't.
And I said, well, what did youget in today then?
And she said, well, about 7,500.
I said, so, set your watch to7,000 steps and celebrate the
fact that you got 7,000 stepsinstead of being like, well, I
didn't hit 10,000.
You hit 7,000 and you did awhole bunch of other things and
now you're tired, your body'stired.
You had a physically demandingday, a mentally demanding day,
(23:12):
an emotionally demanding day,depending on where the kids are.
They're little people.
They have emotions and be okaywith sitting down when you get
home and taking 15 minutes andjust breathing through your life
, like, just pause, it's okay.
And we've been practicing thepause technique with her, where
she doesn't make any decisionswhen she's, you know, talking to
(23:34):
people about making plans ordoing things.
And I said I said pause, tellthem, I need to see what's going
on in my life right now and Iwill get back to you and, you
know, decide.
If it's 15 minutes an hour, youknow they need a deadline, and
if it's a no like if right awayyour body says no, it's a no,
you don't have to say yes.
And if those people get mad atyou, then those people don't
(23:57):
understand things and that'sokay, like that's their issue to
work through.
And so she's been working onthe pause method and it she said
you know she's put a lot ofboundaries down on doing things
and like that she wants to do.
And if you know, obviouslythere's times we need to step up
and help other people and it'snot really about us some days.
There are days where you justhave to be there for people, but
people are always expectingeveryone else to be there for
(24:19):
them and they're not there foryou.
So when?
When is that balance and wheredo you set the boundary?
So it's been pretty amazing towatch that unfold with the pause
and the exercise.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I love that.
I love that.
It's so funny that you say that, because today a really good
friend of mine sent me thisshe's like you're not going to
believe what I did today Causeshe's like that, she's like a.
Very I envy her ability to selfmotivate, but she doesn't have
her own detriment.
Like she said for herself shefinishes it, whether she has to
drag herself through it most ofthe time.
Right, and she's a big Pelotongirl and she sent me this alert
(24:55):
saying she broke her 251 daystreak by taking a day off.
And she took her smartwatch offand she's like I'm rearranging
what I'm doing in my life Now.
Mind you, she runs a rescuefarm where she has goats, a
horse, a pony.
She's out there every day doingthis.
(25:15):
She's so active and I was justlike keep it moving moment,
because she's like I did, I'mfinally like letting this shit
go, because it's like a lot ofus hold ourselves to
unreasonable standards, like isit?
really helping us is it?
Really what we need?
Is it really health?
Well, it's mostly exterior.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's mostly exterior what we see on tv the
commercials, the ads, the youknow the people that have been
doing stuff.
You know like there are peoplethat are wired and built for
that kind of life and that'sokay, but like not everybody is.
It's unrealistic to think thatyou're gonna be that way and
taking your job, you'reexhausted.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
If you're exhausted, are you healthy?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
well, and that's the thing.
There's so many people, I know,that the weight, their weight
gain, is stress and the stressis exhaustion and the exhaustion
is because they don't stop,they have to.
Like my husband struggles sohard with that, like you know
he's he's he's wired to be aprovider and I love him to death
(26:17):
for that.
But it's like there's days I'mlike like, what are you doing?
We're doing nothing.
We're going to lay in bed anddrink lattes and watch TV.
And somebody says like, but Igotta, I want to go do something
.
And I'm like, no, we're notdoing stuff today.
Yeah, like you know, and it's,I think, can't be bored, can't
stop moving.
Gotta, you know, if you'rethere, spare time, we got to fit
(26:42):
something in there.
And it's like fitting, we'refitting in TV and lattes, that's
what we're fitting in today,like having have a nap, I don't
care.
Have a gummy, have an edibleand go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I love that.
I love that Cause.
I think this is what we need.
We've been like perspectivebecause I think this is what we
need.
We've been like force-fed thiscrazy hustle culture I like to
call it so long, especially aswomen and as moms, trying to be
perfect in all these ways andreally all we've gained from it
is like a really high innercritic and a lot of shame, which
(27:12):
helps nobody like.
Renee Brown tells us that shameis no good.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah.
Yeah Well you know, we have allthe technology to make our lives
easier and somehow it's becomemore complicated, it doesn't?
It blows my mind, thinking backwhen my mom had me, she had to
figure out how to hit the bankin bank hours, which were work
hours.
Everyone managed to get thereto get their paycheck to the
(27:38):
bank and do all their bankingand pay all their bills.
People can't even manage andthey have everything at the
touch of their fingers.
Because they're adding more.
Yeah, yeah.
Why are we adding more?
Because we have all of thiseasy technology.
Stop adding more to your plate.
I love that.
I love adding it.
I'm management.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Focus on what really matters, prioritize I that I
love it.
I'm management focus on whatreally matters, prioritize, I
love that.
So if people are hearing thisand they're like, yes, yes, yes,
yes, this is me Do you workwith people virtually or just
where you are?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I just I work a hundred percent online, so I
have um, I do, I work throughGoogle meets, but um, I yeah, I
work online so I can helpanybody pretty much anywhere, as
long as our schedules work out,and I mostly work with women.
But I, you know, men havetroubles too, and if they this
(28:29):
is something that speaks to themen I'm open to helping whoever
needs what I offer, because Idon't think there's much of it.
I specifically struggle theskinny girl life.
I, you know, know that life,but it doesn't matter your shape
or size, it doesn't, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, it's about reforging that, that
relationship with yourself.
I love that.
So if people want to work withyou, how, how can they find you
or where should?
And also like can they find youor where should?
And also like, if they're notready yet, maybe like where can
they start at home?
So um.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I have a free gift that I have um on my website, um
and we'll put this in the shownotes.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
It'll.
There'll be a link in the shownotes too, sorry, yes.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Um, so I have a three day trust your body guide and
it's just like a a little, alittle, a little taste.
A few people are like, wow,this is a huge free gift.
And I said, yeah, but it's noteven the tip of the iceberg on
what I get into work with Everyday.
There's a couple of questionsabout just kind of touching back
in with yourself and it's athree-day thing and it's
something really, if you reallywanted to like get to it, you
(29:36):
could recycle it and use it overand over and over, and it's
just checking in with thosequestions, you know, and and
doing it for a week.
You know, like do that specificstep for one week and start to
get really good at noticing thelittle things.
Um, so I have a free gift forthat um that is downloadable and
(29:56):
pdf.
You can print it off or howeveryou want to do it, little
worksheets involved with thequestions.
Um, and then, yeah, on mywebsite, um, I do free consults.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I have a 30 minute free consults what your website
is, in case people just want tohear it.
Yes, it's bb nutritionca.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Um, and what are bb like?
Is it boy boy like balancedbeing, so bbnutritionca?
And what are BB like?
As in, boy boy Like balancedbeing, so BB nutrition?
Yeah, balanced being nutrition,but BB, so it's not so many
words.
Yeah, perfect ca, and I havethere's.
You know my, I have a groupprogram launching right away on
(30:35):
can't remember the date, I thinkit's June 4.
At 2pm Mountain Standard Time,I I have is the first class and
so I have that launching rightaway.
But I also do one-on-one workand I do have a free consult.
So if anyone wants to justreach out and see, you know,
connect and see what it's liketo work together, um, I, I have
(30:57):
that as well.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
So Beautiful and I always ask everyone this
question that comes on.
So what's your like?
Go-to self-care?
Whenever things are like out ofcontrol, what do you do?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Uh, I was my last guest self-nurture, your
self-nurture.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
She wanted to be self-nurture.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well, I recently found a local farm that does
cream and stuff, so I don't buyit from the store because
typically dairy bothers me.
But I found this.
I switched from oat milk overand I make my own lattes at home
.
My favorite is a lavender whitechocolate mocha Um.
(31:36):
My favorite is a lavender whitechocolate mocha Um.
And I really like to watchNetflix.
Or you know, my husband and Iare reality TV junkies either
ghost adventures or true crimestuff, or or any chick flick
like comedy type thing, um.
Or when it's nice, we like togo camping, so that is, go out
to the wilderness where there'sno signal, no wi-fi, no cell
(32:00):
service, and we have a littlemotor home that we we did last
year.
And we like to spend a lot oftime out in the mountains
because we're from the mountainprovince.
So that's a couple of thingsthat that I like to do um
nurturing it.
It depends on the day.
I think it just depends.
Some days it's a hot bath andsome days it's sitting out in
the sunshine while my dog bakesher baked potato self Cause
(32:22):
she's a pit bull and she lovesthe sun.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I love that.
I love that you make yourselflike a little fancy cocktail and
like do a little like guiltypleasure too, though, because
that is health too.
You know what I mean.
Like I do some healthy things,but also sometimes just like
numbing and doing something alittle sweet for yourself, you
know, making yourself somethingfancy, showing yourself you're
worth it, and unplugging, Ithink that's just like awesome.
(32:49):
I love that, cause it's notwhat people would typically
think of as self-nurturing, butit is a self-nurturing act, it's
very specific to you and it's abeautiful example.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, yeah, I just kind of I'm like what do I feel
like doing?
Part of my daily is self-care.
It's part of my daily.
So what am I going to do today?
Am I going to go take my dogfor a walk?
Are we going to sit out in thesunshine and have a coffee?
Are we going to have a bubblebath?
Am I going to turn on anepisode of a show that I like
watching?
It's it's just kind of likewhat am I going to do?
(33:20):
But it's also learning how tonot get wrapped up in just doing
self-care, because there's, youknow, things in life that we
have to do, and it's easy to belike I don't want to, and it's
some days we have to anyways,but we do need to make daily
self-care a thing.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I, I love that balance.
It's so important Right andright, perfect.
You know that relationship withourselves we have to nurture.
So that's awesome.
So is there anything you'd liketo leave us with?
It's been wonderful talking toyou today.
I've absolutely loved yourinsights.
Sorry, my puppy is beingannoying, but anything you'd
like to leave us with todaybefore we go?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I think, just starting like, just start to
take a minute and just decide ifit's something that's for you
or if it's for somebody else.
And if it's for somebody else,sit and consider if it's
something that you feel in yourheart you need to do, or if it's
something that you, that youfeel in your heart, you need to
do, or if it's something youfeel obligated, because if, if
you're not taking care ofyourself and and doing it for
(34:23):
yourself, it's, it's it'sdamaging and it's it's we've
just been taught our whole lives.
You know, especially, I'm a momand it's like your kids and
your kids and your kids and it'slike, okay, but what about me?
At the end of the day, whathappens when my, my kids are
gone?
My oldest is turning 21 nextweek.
Like she's, she pays her ownbills.
Like we have a relationship,but I'm not her mom anymore.
(34:47):
You know, like I'm, we'refriends.
Now we have a friendship.
And who?
Who am I now?
You know so I, you can't, youcan't keep pushing for everybody
else, cause when all thatdisappears.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
what do you have left ?
That's great advice, Absolutelygreat advice and I think a lot
of women are probably in thatplace right now and having these
similar thoughts, and so it'svery powerful statement.
Thank you so much, um.
If you ever have anything newlaunching, look us up again.
I'd love to have you back andtalk with you yes, I would love
to do this again.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It was a lot of fun, thank you yeah.
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