In episode 151 of Empowered and Embodied, Kim and Louise dive into the powerful intersections of leadership, identity, and belonging with their incredible guest, Shoshana Allice. Shoshana is a neuro-inclusive leadership coach and consultant, committed to decolonizing leadership and fostering spaces where true belonging—not just fitting in—is possible.
We explore the difference between belonging and fitting in, the armor we carry through life, and how our deeply ingrained systems shape the way we move through the world. Shoshana shares her journey of unlearning, embracing curiosity, and making space for courageous conversations that challenge power structures and systemic inequities.
Consider this an invitation to ask hard questions, sit in the discomfort of growth, and to recognize that getting it “wrong” is part of the process. From recognizing our internalized beliefs to reimagining leadership in a way that centers humanity, this episode is a powerful call to action: to show up, stay curious, and create spaces of true connection. This is one of those conversations that leaves you feeling full—of ideas, questions, and a renewed sense of purpose.
"If you want to start decolonizing your leadership, start with curiosity and humility. Be willing to unlearn what you think you know." - Shoshana Allice
Key Takeaways:
Key Moments:
00:00 – Welcome, guest introduction & celebrations
07:28 – The power of asking questions
11:33 – Struggles and self-judgment
14:34 – Decolonizing leadership
19:59 – The importance of land acknowledgments
23:28 – Unlearning leadership assumptions
29:58 – The weight of systemic armor
34:36 – Privilege, belonging, and identity
41:22 – The illusion of fitting in
46:50 – Learning from younger generations
52:02 – Final reflections and takeaways
Resources Mentioned:
📖 Rest as Resistance by Tricia Hersey
Connect with Shoshana:
Website: www.decolonizingleadership.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shoshanaallice/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WorkshopsThatDontSuck/
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