March 12, 2025 • 57 mins
From the NFL’s complicated relationship with activism to capitalism’s grip on the biggest sporting event of the year, the hosts explore how artists like Kendrick convey revolutionary messages on a mainstream stage. They also examine cultural appropriation, referencing historical phenomena such as “Negrophilia” and highlighting lingering racial inequities—often in humorous, candid ways. Throughout the episode, they grapple with how modern-day entertainment, racial politics, and consumerism intersect.
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So uh I have this I have this I
want to say it's a guilty pleasure, but I'm not even sure.
Like, have you guys seen the the
equalizer movies with Denzel?
Yes.
I seen the equalizer of course yeah so there's a TV
show with Queen Latifa where she's the equalizer
and it's got five seasons it's been just it's
(00:56):
like 24 with Queen Latifah yeah and
and as of this week I've seen every episode I'm caught up.
like I didn't know this thing existed a few months ago and I binged
the hell out of it because it's a mix of
the right like the writing's bad, right?
(01:17):
But but but they got names
in in the show like like they got names like
guest stars that are that are actual like like Jada like
names have been named names right, right. right.
big names, but like the plot the
writing is is bad, but but the show's good, but
(01:39):
it's bad at the same time, right?
And so it it got me to thinking like, well I'm I love Queen Latif.
Like I'm always going to support
what you know, you and I like you know what I'm saying and I's?
Yeah, it's Queen keep your head up.
What keep your head up
but then
(02:02):
I said, hey, wait a minute, is this the equalizer
movie versus the TV show like the movie wow, like
bop here.
Did y'all know that both of these is based?
I thought it was based on a book now.
It's based on an old TV show.
Yes.
(02:22):
I actually didn't know that.
And the Queen Latifa show is closer to the TV show than the movies are.
Oh no that I didn't know because I've never seen the TV show.
oh my god hold on This is
this is hold on I' I'm hoping I'm hoping I
can get this but like if you if you look
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this up, if you look up like the equalizer original TV show, you're going to see some
of the like and I guess we
have to contextualize it because it's in the 80s, but some of the worst stunts,
like Broby shooting somebody and then they turn around
full and throw themselves through a plate glass thing.
(03:03):
It's funny.
Is it like that that video?
Remember that video where my man he gets shot and he goes
and then he like does a slow mush
literally like that.
How close is it real quick Let me ask this.
How close is it to a movie?
(03:27):
It's That's a good question.
The wait, the original TV show, nah, it's the
original TV show is all is it's the equal as
a white dude, old white dude with like white hair
and like retired like same thing, Robert McCall, retired CIA,
doing cases, blah, blah, blah.
It actually remind me of watching of watching um
(03:51):
the incredible Hulk TV show.
Lou F..
But but without the Hulk, it's just like, hey, I'm I'm here.
I'm doing a case.
B, blah, blah, blah.
And then I I I shoot some motherfuckers like that's what it is.
But the Queen Latifa show, even though
like I'm telling writing the writing is like this.
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Like let's say it's me and me and y'all doing the scene.
I'm mad at y'all because y'all did somebody they want
you to do like, yo, I'm so mad at you five minutes later
Well, you know, you had to do what you had to do.
No dialogue took place and no no growth.
Like, hey, we cool now.
Like literally like no character art.
You know what, man I get it.
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I get it totally and completely five minutes ago I was unreasonable.
Yeah, we we breaking up the team.
y'all like betrayed me but.
But yeah, let's go a party and we do some karaoke together.
Like it's like that.
But I can't like if anybody that wasn't
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part of us said, yo, that show sucks, I would be like, what you what what you mean?
What you what you're talking about?
which brings us to uh introducing
the end of a species podcast.
Welcome.
I'm Jeff, here with Sean and super solid and uh here's our intro.
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I cannot believe.
I cannot believe.
I'm getting away with that.
Like I believe it.
I believe it nobody gonna nobody
say nothing they just like okay make that the intro for the uh
for the Kendrick Lamar episode that's the
one I'm getting away with it and and Sean
(05:53):
this was this whole episode was was was your doing
oh yeah the whole that's crazy yeah
top to bottom the whole that's all you and and uh
I want to say that like it's not
like I disagree that we need to do the episode like I agree but
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when when the Kendrick Lamar halftime show was going on
and we were all in that discord room like you looked like
you look like somebody who never knew there was a toys or us
you'd never been introduced to Toys or Us before.
And suddenly now if you
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became aware that Toys or Us existed that you never knew about it before.
You seven and you're like, oh my God toys there's
no toy stores and then somebody brings you not just to like Toys, but like Toys Us like in the middle of
like in in in the city, in New York, like,
like you just open and over like over stimulated, like all the toys are here?
(06:57):
That was your face.
It was real. like the halftime show, because
I was determined to uh stream it
um, like I was determined
to stream it in my discourse server. uh because I obviously I was going to watch it.
But like it was when it came on,
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it was everything that I that I wanted it to be.
Like it was every time I will say that like every time Kendrick
puts on a show on television, he does
things that I wish other artists would do.
He has like, in my own opinion, more artistry
than most people who go on stage and and
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rap about anything that is like, because he's a conscious
or people call it conscious rappers.
and all of these conscious rappers get on stage.
Most death ain't getting on stage and putting on a show like Kendrick puts on a show.
He's just not.
He's just not like it's.
Exactly.
(08:04):
They're just coming on.
They're doing their songs and they're going home.
Hendrick puts on a show.
He puts on a performance.
It is an entire thing.
The show is it has symbolism within it.
He's religious, so it has usually has some form of
religious symbolism in it for him that is significant to him,
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political symbolism in it for him,
racial symbolism in it every single time.
It is there is no question.
There is no question like,
and this Super Bowl halftime show, I mean, look, I'm going to go ahead and do it.
I'm going to go ahead and say it.
I'm a glaze and say, this is the best Super Bowl halftime show
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in NFL history.n in NFL history.
Beyon Beyonce is a very close second.
She did very well, but this is
this is the best Super Bowlalftime show in in NFL history.
The political message was on point.
The songs that he chose were perfect.
I could not have chosen a better playlist.
(09:09):
The moment that
he he took advantage of with uh with the with
his d track, uh after winning five Grammys, not too long before that
um was was perfect.
It was one.
And and he let that be its own moment
whilst he ended it with the things that he wanted to end it with uh
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because he didn't end it on the this song that he won five Grammys with.
He ended it on
uh what is considered to be right now his his
album's anthem, uh, what he put on an album GNX,
his album's anthem TV off.
And it was and it was absolutely beautiful and
the messaging behind it, I don't I don't know if people, because I heard someone say,
(09:55):
and I'm yapping, so I'm I'm going shut up after this.
But I heard someone say before that when he said uh
the revolution about to be televised, you picked the right time,
but the wrong guy, that was corny and he shouldn't have said that.
And I was just like, oh, you don't you didn't watch the halftime show then.
because the first thing he said was the revolution about to
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be televised and the last thing he said was turn this TV off.
Yeah.
Turn the light off.
It It's just, I'm like the way that he set that up was
now we've been da Vinci coding through this halftime show for like weeks now.
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And I guess I'm not going to call this like
the question of the week because I don't know that I really want to do a question every
week, but I think this question merits asking
when you have a Super Bowl halftime show, right?
Like I and I think of the last few, like say, uh, Dre
50 M like that halftime show,
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Do you have a responsibility to do
something more than just do the entertaining?
Like should that be a requirement now?
I think that
I want to say yes.
(11:20):
I want to say yes, but I'm I'm going to keep I'm going to be so honest.
I don't think some niggas have it in them to do anything
more than just performing the songs.
I think that if you are and I do believe that Kendrick
is a revolutionary artist, I do believe that if you're a revolutionary
artist, then you have a responsibility
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to push forward revolutionary thoughts
and uh revolution and create revolutionary
potential every time you give a performance, but especially
in on a stage like the Super Bowl have time show, because we
if we think about it for more than two seconds, this is uh
the Super Bowl halftime show is it's an NFL halftime show.
(12:05):
The NFL, the same NFL that blackballed
Colin Kaepernick for taking a knee because black people were getting killed in the streets.
This is the same Super Bowl
pathftime show, which is why the the line
hit so hard at least for me, the line hit so hard and
the show was just going to be amazing to me because I
(12:27):
can see him talking through like the TV
to the NFL commission and saying, you picked the right
time, but the wrong guy.
You don't like niggas like me.
You don't like niggas who talk about things that I talk about.
You blackballed niggas for taking knees.
I'm not a take a knee type of nigga.
(12:49):
I'm a revolutionary nigga.
I don't do peaceful protest.
I'm gonna burn this bitch down and you them fucked up and put it on TV.
What do you?
Oh, I mean, I agree with sis,
like uh, I'm not expecting rascal flats to
go out there and talk about seasoning the means of production and shit like that
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you know what I' imagine could you imagine it?
having propert
is theft like I'm I'm not I'm I don't I don't yeah so
but as far as the best halftime show of all
time it's obviously Janet Jackson and and JT
for reasons that I won't mention.
(13:32):
I't I
won't I won't expound at all. um
now I'm I'm expound because when when that
happened when the thing we're not talking about happened I had,
I swear to you, I had a hooter's wing in my mouth
and and it fell back under the plate.
And for y'all to know, like I'm a big dude for y'all
(13:55):
to know that a hooter's wing fell out my mouth and onto the plate
that's never happened before never happened here's
wing is un never never happened
before that never happened since will never happen
again oh God a dramatic irony.
(14:15):
That was just just so y'all know that was MTV's halime show.
They they went to MTV told them to put together a halftime show and they put that together.
That's what they put together.
And at the end it was JT and Janet Jackson
and we got to see what we saw.
I'm I'm so glad
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that this halftime show was what it was.
I am so glad that it was what it was.
I'm I'm an Easter egg.
I'm an Easter egg head ass nigga.
Like I when when we've I
think we've had a discussion, Jeff, about the difference
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in my palate alone based on just because of a Jordan peel, right?
We just got finished talking about Donald Glover,
right?
And now we have this media that is
encouraging us where it's cool It's it's
it's part of communion, like to be communal with each other to
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relate to each other to swap ideas, fan theories,
critical analysis about these uh, you know, film analysis, uh, a
song and out music analysis about
this new shit that's coming out.
If anybody ever doubted that we were in another black Renaissance,
you're sorely like you're sorely mistaken.
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We are in the middle of another black Renaissance.
We have been for at least five years now, if not
ten um I'm going to venture I'm going to say since
2012 since the beginning of the uh the Black Lives Matter movement
And so
to see it permeate a space where you are expected to stop thinking,
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because that's what it is.
It is the Coliseum.
The Super Bowl is the Coliseum, its
gladiators taking each other's heads off with a nice uh gester
in the middle of it to to make you laugh and giggle in some music
where you can eat your popcorn and
uh look toward the emperor, who was conveniently
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on the sidelines and and encourage
him to point his thumb in the right direction.
commercial and commercial and commercial it's
it is the it is the epitome of capitalism.
The super is the it is the number one day for capitalism.
The number one day we have days like
(16:57):
Black Friday.
Yeah, Black Friday.
I met more capitalist advertisement, but but like, but yes, yes.
The promotion it is if it's the Super Bowl is the worship
of capitalism. hundred percent.
It is it's Christmas for capitalism.
It's it's like a hundred percent, right?
You have all the components you have a
(17:19):
bunch of nigas putting in the labor, like huge labor, getting CTE
in to the benefit of their white owners, right?
um products, uh
you have you have uh commodity fetisism being shoved in your face, right?
To where if I tell niggas that I don't like football, they lose their mind.
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They go oh, you're a six foot three, 300 pound black man.
You don't like like football?
What the fuck is wrong with you, okay?
Yeah, nigga that's That's
no, but literally that's their response.
uh he liked dick for real um
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and so and smack dab in the middle
of it it's like you cannot turn away anymore.
You can't you cannot turn away any more because even in the height of all of that the biggest record
of the decade, I' must say it.
Which is a dys track, which is a diss track
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against an in against the the the symbol
of the co- the coopting of black culture.
It is I mean it it's all full circle.
You have a man who who symbolizes the
coopting of black culture of hip hop culture of hip hop, right?
And you have a love song to the hatred of that.
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Now that love song is on a national stage at
at Christmas for capitalism and he's
in and and he's in the middle of telling you where you actually belong
and at the end it says game over game
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he he's the that's the most gangster shit
and y'all know I come I was I was raised on gang culture
and the way that you prove yourself in many cases
is to completely discard uh uh or
or or piss in the face or what was it was it called
(19:34):
uh fly in the face of the status quo?
I know what your rules say to do.
I know what's appropriate.
I know what would be taboo for me to do right here and now, but
I'm going to do it here in your face blatantly.
for kindred to do it means he's
standing on business he means this shit.
(19:54):
Exactly.
And uh
the only the only thing I would have doubled
up on the only the only space that's left for me is
how we are going to respond.
What what are we going to take with this battery in
our back and what are we going to do with this battery in our back?
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You know what I mean?
So that's that's where I'm met with it.
So before we look at the battery, right?
Like
not everybody fell in line with this, right?
And I want to I want to compare this to like
the Beyonce halftime show for the Beyonce halftime show,
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formation, right?
And everybody said everybody on our side was like, yes that was it.
That was it.
That was the one That was the one right
That's why I said like man,
I'm telling you and people on the other side
like we know about were like no I you know we
don't mentioned this on the show.
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No, but I'm talking about like this was like clean racial
divide, but oh yeah remember the SNL the SNL skate
where people are the day we were people were lost
shit lost their minds.
that was a clean break.
With this it's a little different because you got
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the uss that are looking at that like yeah, that.
But then there are some uses
that look at that and are like so this isn't really the place for that, isn't it?
That part.
No, that part.
It's it's the uh this is why I chalk up
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the hatred oh, excuse me, this is why I chalk up all the
hatred of uh the Kendrick Lamar have time show
uh that we've seen and what we saw in the
past with the Beyonce have time show to just black
hate and in particular, for us, just dark skined hate.
It's just this is just how people react
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to black art and things that are unapologetically black.
Anything that is unapologetically black, they hate.
It goes with texturism, colorism, featurism, all that shit.
Like when nigas see my hair, they be like, can't
you can't you like touch your hair or can't you just have straight long hair or whatever whatever?
Nah, nigga I want I want
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culture, nigga, what are you talking about?
And it for them, it's too much.
And when the art is on TV, I heard
someone say a black person say, I don't
this is a Super Bowl talking about Kendrick's half time show.
This is a Super Bowl.
I don't want to think about politics
at the Super Bowl.
I was just to say.
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And I'm just like, and and that that is a
huge consensus with a lot of coon ass niggers
who just want the status quo to stay exactly what it is.
Here's the here's the issue I have, though, is that
when you have and look, no no shade, but
when you have most of the talk about the actual
(23:04):
game be about Taylor Swift,
right?
And there are people who literally hate the Chiefs on the strength of Taylor Swift.
That's it.
Some of the people who hate the Chiefs can't spell blitz, like dead ass.
Would't be able to like you show them a formation
and be like, yo, where's the where's the uh where's the tight end?
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No idea.
Right?
Well, oh, I see a tidy.
yo, low hanging fruit, but I yo.
um and that's politics, right?
A good chunk of the conversation about the Super Bowl
was the president showing up.
Yeah, no 100% and people like so you got time to boo the president
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at the Super Bowl and feel a feel away about that.
You are thinking about politics.
It's it's it's there like whether you like it's like me saying
it's like me through monsoon season walking outside
and be like, I just don't want to think about rain today.
Like motherfucker, it's raining.
Right?
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It's everywhere.
So when you say, I don't want to think about politics, that's what
they so what what they're actually saying is I don't want to think about our politics.
I'll let them do their politics and let them do their
uh their colonization and racism and blah, blah, blah.
But I don't want to think about what our response to that is.
I just want to go to the Super Bowl, eat my my
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uh my hot Cheetos and call it a day.
That part.
That part. $37 dollars for a tough ass pretzel.
No, literally this.
I think that it's to answer your question directly,
uh when two and a half time show, does someone have the obligation or
the the responsibility to send a political message?
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I want I want to say yes, so
badly, but I can't say yes so badly. uh so
I'm I'm going to say no directly,
but I'm going to say no, but if that's okay.
Okay, uh, no, but us
as revolutionaries need to make sure that
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we are constantly grabbing the spotlight in these moments
to stop nigas who don't have political messages
from getting shows like this.
Because JayZ is
in control of the recruitment for that the halftime show.
I don't know if many people know that uh but but
Jay-Z is it Sean Carter is in control
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of choosing who it is that uh that
goes and performs at the halftime show and putting it together and all this other stuff.
And and that nigga is one of those niggas that
tends to be very problematic whenever revolutionary
conversation comes up, which is strange because it's
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the wife it's Beyonce you know what just hit me?
what?
When 444 came out and I first heard the
story of Oj, I had a not like us moment.
I was like this is this is one of them ones
and that song connects to aake this
like it all goes back to dissing Drake somehow
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Push a sample story
of Oj for like
so is it like I you know we'll do another I
know you say you want to do more like Kendrick stuff, but I think we we need to do
a deep dive into how much revolutionary action
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and hip hop leads to dissing Drake somehow.
No, it's
so funny because like this is my point.
Like Sean Carter is in control of
choosing who it is that goes and performs at the Super
Bowl and Beyonce is his wife, but Sean Carter is the
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type of nigger to be like, is this really the time and place though?
And you would ask like, oh, well, why would this nigga chooses kindrick to do X, Y and Z?
Because Sean Carter is nothing about if nothing about nothing but that scrilla.
That's it.
That's all.
That's it.
If he can put an investment into something and make more money,
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he's going to do that.
He doesn't care what message you have.
He doesn't care what it is that you have to say.
He doesn't care if you're pro black anti-black, nothing.
He'll do a song with whoever, however, so
long as it makes him money and him putting uh
one of the biggest artists he had he had almost no choice.
It was the song of the summer.
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He he was like, this is it.
This is the one.
Every time I go into a club, every time I hit the VIP
section, they're playing not like us at least four times.
at least four times.
So I got I got to at least look at Kendrick to
see if he, you know, would do the Super Bowl halftime
show. um and it is
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I really do think that there
is something to be said about how we
need to take that spotlight and take
away their ability to choose because if
they choose something else, they'll be risking
losing the thing that things that they care about the most.
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Like if I don't choose this revolutionary person
and this person with this political message, I'm going to miss out
on an opportunity to make more money for myself, and we
all know no capitalists will ever miss out on that opportunity.
Do you think that means we have to tie it to consumerism?
Nah, I don't think Kendrick tied it to consumerism at all.
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No, no.
I'm not saying in the messaging.
I'm saying
in the in delivery
appeal in the making it mass like, because
the reason that you you keep playing that song four
times in the club is because everybody wants to hear it four times.
100%.
(29:27):
100%.
I think that it is it goes into I don't think we have to tie it into consumerism at all.
I think we have to tie it into populism.
I think we need to be good at what it is that we're
doing and make everyone make it undeniable that
we are good at what it is that we're doing.
One of the things that I told you, Jeff,
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was is that I want to increase our presence
on different platforms.
I want to I want to come up with schedules and increase our
pleas presence on different platforms because we're entertaining ourselves.
Like we are our us just just being us.
That's entertainment because we just we just got it.
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I don't know what it is.
It's just it's just a way we wake up in the morning and
piss entertainment. like that's what we do.
That's what we do.
And when we're out there and we're super smart,
when we're out there and we're doing our debates on TikTok or we're
doing our nosy neighbors on Instagram, or we're doing our podcasts,
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uh or whatever it is that we're doing.
We are we are insanely smart.
This is a group of elites.
I I really, I really need to say that.
Not to not to glaze us, but like seriously, we
are a force to be reckoned with.
We are a problem.
If someone wants to say something about
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uh uh how capitalism is better in this room
right now, not going to it out.
Cut it out.
Stop playing.
I feel better.
Yeah.
And the only things that we have to do is increase our
presence because we already know we're already funny.
We know how to make jokes.
We know how to make it entertaining.
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We just need to appeal to the populace so they can be like,
oh, this shit really is entertaining.
and most of the times they don't even know they learn any shit from it.
They don't even know that they are being revolutionary
just by listening to the podcast, just by building revolutionary potential.
And I do think that this goes into the point I' a land right here.
(31:30):
This goes into the point that we don't need to
tie it into consumerism or anything because I want child to think about this.
Kendrick sold 350,000 units
when his album came out in the first week, 350,000 units.
We didn't know the album was going to drop.
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We had no clue.
We woke up one day and
I got a message from Jeff that said new kindrick dropped
at 10 o'clock in the morning.
We put and
to put that in context, 350 K in the streaming era, unheard of.
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Insane Abs absolutely insane.
Yeah.
And when when we're talking about how how good Kendrick
is of being a revolutionary artist and how much inspiration
we should take from him for being that good as a revolutionary
artist to the point where he doesn't say shit
drops an album and it sells 35,000
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units in the first week.
Drake promoted his album for months and
struggled to get 250,000 units
in the first week had a 40% decline
in streams and rest streams the next day after the album came out
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because it was trash.
There was no message.
Yeah.
And it's also that moment like you you're not meeting that moment.
And if you don't meet the moment that that's the other that's the otherment.
um but I do like I'm going to jump off of this being entertaining
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and I want to introduce a segment for this specific episode.
Because, look, we're we're going to talk
at some point about the the criticism and the people who are not on the on the bandwagon with us.
We're going to talk about all sorts, like we're going to look at this from different angles.
But there are people who have like, I think,
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jumped on the bandwagon maybe too much.
Maybe not.
I don't know.
And so this segment is
one that we're going to call appropriation or appropriate.
And and so what I'm going to do is I'm going to show y'all
some people, bless their heart, who
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are doing the Kendrick
uh, not like us dance.
and uh, I want like we're going to watch them.
I'll and then we'll discuss it really quickly if it's appropriation
or appropriate and this is the first one go.
s get on the music
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I don't know that I could say that that one is appropriation.
Yo, you did you saying they hit it.
They hit it.
I ain't going to you.
I't.
I ain't like it.
it just fell gross oh shit oh
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shit about it we had we excited that mama could uh
to do a two stage mamaan is insane
they Japanese uh I don't know
I don't know what they are I mean that was Japanese ring but go ahead good
oh I don't know they might be I don't know I just don't know but um
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what's so so what's your what's your objection?
Let me ask let me ask.
What's your objection?
um
wasn't black
I knew you was going to say that man I knew
you was going to say that I hear that I hear that I hear that That's not ridiculous to say that's not ridiculous to say
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s not ridiculous here's my here's here's my thing right?
It's fun man we be so
happy when we see white people or non-bl black people doing black shit when they do it well
or even not badly.
Do you know what I'm saying?
We get so pumped we get so hype.
We were like oh shit.
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And then and all I could think of was like damn,
I hope this uh I hope mama son don't say nothing crazy about black people
something to telling I like her.
I'm scared to like her because I know she' probably going to be like,
oh, those those chansies or your mother
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something like that I hear that I hear that.
No, that's not it's not ridiculous to say that.
I think that the reason why I liked that so much
was because of the I I like personally.
I love me some solidarity with other people of color.
I love me some solidarity with other people of color and I get
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that there are different uh when
when it comes to Asian, there are different ethnic backgrounds or whatever.
And Japanese is like the worst one. um but
in in the in the US and Aans, literally this.
No, that ass, that ass. uh, but in the US of A
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in the US of a?
True.
I feel as though, I I feel as
though, uh when it comes to uh the hatred
of people of color in general, uh white people I I I can't do it myself.
I've been actually trying to do this figure out a way to figure out uh
the differences and looks of a person between
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Korean, Japanese, Chinese,
um Vietnamese, you know, all that shit.
Because, uh, people say it's easy, but I I honestly, I just don't know.
I don't I think it's because I don't see enough Asian people
to know because like if I look at twins long enough,
I could tell who's who from down the street.
Right.
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So I think I just need to you for being honest.
But it's it
is an exposure thing when you're not exposed enough, you just don't you don't know the difference.
Now, I could tell, but I'm going to tell you when you bring up Japanese and Korean, you got to understand that
for the most part, um there's,
you know, Korea was slaves to Japan up until
(38:38):
about 60 years ago, maybe going on 70 years ago.
Yeah, yeah.
And so
that one's a real that one's a real doozy because I mean,
if you didn't enslave the country of people with what you think they was doing.
Of course.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
um, but other than that, yeah, I could tell it.
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Well, if you didn't like that one, but I well hold on.
I'm just say I liked it because I love me some solid in
the US survey, I love me some solidarity with some other people of color and I don't
I don't necessarily never mind,
let's see the next one and I'll we'll we'll go over it.
We'll go over it. y'all going to love this one.
(39:20):
Just off, just off, rip.
You're going to love this one.
Hold on, hold on.
When your church friend keeps saying that church is an actual
cool church, the cool church in question.
Wait, I don't see nothing.
You don't see nothing?
I don't see nothing.
Oh, that's crazy.
Let me close some of my windows, maybe.
(39:43):
Soid has 413 windows open.
Yeah, and they all on Google Chrome and that eats all the ram.
The ram is matter of fact, you know what else I'm gonna do I
We're?
I got garage openage.
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I tell you my
nigga grinding I'm trying to make sure
that we talked about this increasing our our
um our presence, that's exactly what the fuck I'm trying to do.
No, I feel that I feel that.
Okay.
(40:24):
I'm all the way free.
Can you see it down?
You see it now?
I can't see shit.
Yo, I'm what I'm going to bring it down and then bring it back up blah, blah.
I saw it when you brought it down.
There it is, there it is, There you go beautiful beautiful beautiful.
All right. so when your friend keeps telling you
(40:44):
or when your friend keeps saying their church is an actual cool
church, the church in question.
All right.
I mean, appropriate.
(41:10):
I think
we just found the the reason why solid doesn't like the other one.
Hey, not by g God, he was
like yo, it's
the putting the bike out to the crowd to the crowd to the crowd.
(41:33):
See, this one this one is completely appropriation,
but this is this is totally different.
Like
uh what, what, uh grandma
did over there, she didn't she wasn't singing they not like us.
She was just doing a walk, kind of mimicking the performance.
They' like a TikTok challenge kind of thing.
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This church is saying they not like us,
and I guarantee you none of them niggas on the stage knows what that means.
Yeah.
I know I know what they think it means.
Oh no, 100% 100% percent.
What do you think they mean non-Cchristians?
Well, that's exactly for
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the matters Yeah,
no, they mean non-white Christianians, but yeah, that's
that's what they yeah, yeah, yeah wasps
No, no, no.
I can see it.
I can see it.
I can see it.
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ai.
(43:23):
The look on solid's face was worth replaying it.
I do think that uh I do agree
with what Solid has said my original response to this
was going to be that I think this was perfectly fine.
I think this was this was perfectly appropriate
uh on the merit by itself because I
think that there is a way to because let let's be so for real here.
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Black culture is uh synonymous today with pop culture.
There is there is nothing different about pop culture that
niggas ain't create, like period.
This is why we'll talk about later on whether
or not white people can say AA VE or not,
but I do believe that there is no form of slang
(44:11):
today that anyone can use that black people did not create.
um That's but, yeah, but
with this, like to not go off on, you know, to not digress
off on the tangent, uh I I like this.
I think this was 100% appropriate, just like I thought it was
uh with the Asian people because they are not
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taking it for themselves and
just doing it for themselves.
They are paying tribute and paying homage, I feel like to kindred.
That's what it feels like.
Whereas the white people singing they not like us are taking it for themselves
and utilizing it for their own gain rather than
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it being paying homage.
I got I got two more for y'all before we
before we close that. real quick.
I just want to say, yeah, uh
in a vacuum, a lot of time the
Mexican harmies will succumb to white supremacy and be very anti-black.
And that is something that we got to acknowledge and be for real about.
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When it comes to
and we know how race works, we know how F no nationalities work.
We we get it.
Yeah.
But when Mexicans perceive white people being racist against them,
or when white people when Mexicans perceive a white dude
being racist against a black dude, what for
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whatever reason is like conditional solidarity.
They always end up being the homies.
They they always end up standing in solidarity.
and I call me a sap, but a
uh uh an injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
So you go I stand in solidarity with the Mexican hies.
I support it 100%.
(45:59):
Keep keep that thought.
Okay.
Keep that thought.
Oh shit.
Can't see it again.
Pause it real quick, Joe. Put this on the bottom.
Yeah, if you put this on the bottom, I think me.
All right, man.
All right, can you still see it?
(46:19):
I can see it in there.
All right.
Beautiful.
So there is a streamyard there.
on the Hey,
I' I'm sliding I'm the back like.
(46:41):
Must have a beefin throat
down lamps, tell them breathe um okay
okay okay.
Appropriation for everybody except for the dad
that's crazy that's crazy because you
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know he was just there to support his daughter that's that's crazy he's
I do I I thought
it would be worse like what I saw when you because you told me
about like uh doing the walk.
You said you had videos of white people doing the walk.
And I was like, I don't know what the fuck you talking about until like two
(47:26):
days ago I finally saw my first ever video of someone doing the walk.
But it was a black girl.
So I was like, oh, oh, they're doing the thing.
I thought it would be worse.
I thought it would be worse, honestly. um
I probably say I probably shouldn't have sold you on it. because
you had too much time to think about it and make some sort of
(47:49):
like, you know, like, uh well, I
really didn't think about what's that what's that woman's name that that always
be stealing the black dancers on TikTok?
Oh, uh I know who you talking
I can't remember her name though her her TikTok handle, but I know who I know exactly what you're talking about, though.
But it's like you see you see a black choreographer throw all the
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you know all herbs and spices and the shit and
then you see the one with the ten million views and it's like
oh, yeah, yeah, no, 100% 100% percent, 100% percent I just for me
it's a you know what I'm really thinking about you know what I'm really really thinking about?
(48:36):
I'm really still thinking about that goddamn church video
because it's it's just y'all laughing and
shit, but I'm I'm so serious because like that was appropriation at its finest.
And this was just like to me,
I guess I'm doing in comparison to that in comparison to that.
This is nothing.
(48:57):
In comparison to that this is just some white people trying to be involved.
Exactly.
That's what it feels like.
That's what it feels like.
Like she goes to she goes to a predominantly black college
and she has some black friends No she was like
no she was a PBI is crazy where
No, no, but no black college is not posting that.
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No, no, but moving it shortly after shortly after.
I think that the I really do think that this one I think this one's all right.
I don't I don't necessarily have any
major issues with it um other
than they're white, but it's there's
no I don't think that they're doing anything super crazy.
(49:46):
They're not.
I feel like it's more it's more just like white people pan homage.
kind of rolling stones, if you get what I mean.
You know what did it for me was the smile.
The smile says, I'm in a theme park
and not, you know, like like Kendrick
sm smile when he goes, say, Drake, that is impish.
(50:06):
That's like you, you and I know what I'm talking about, nigga.
but but their smile is like, ooh,
like a man, like I got a word for y'all.
Oh, what's that?
Negroilia.
Negroilia.
okay, okay.
Reach it reached its heights in uh Paris.
(50:28):
Oh, in the in the 1920s. 1920s.
Yeah. uh there But we're talking
about even before that we're talking about Sarah Bartman style,
right?
um hot and ti Venus style Negophilia.
We're talking about slumming it, right?
(50:50):
Like visiting the culture.
You know, we're going to we're
I also think that there is a a certain,
I don't know, jeacquoix if we're talking about Paris here,
that uh certain white people will have I haven't seen many of these videos.
Like I said, I've only seen one and it was a black girl doing it
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um like two days ago uh this
walk. um my fourU page is just full of nigga
shit so I don't really I haven't really seen
this much unless it's like niggas sitting at their desk talking
about how much they hate kindrick and dark skin niggas.
I haven't really seen much of like the dances about the Super Bowl.
(51:34):
But this one for me, I'm would just go ahead and say,
I don't necessarily have a problem with this one.
I feel like
I'm fucked up because my FYP is just y'all.
just niggas that running our circle that's all this on my FYP.
I love that.
(51:55):
I love that and JJ and yeah,
J JJ jj's there uh what's my man's name uh conscious Lee is there
but it's just that's all my FYP is niggas
that the same niggas I see and talk to every day.
It's all my FYP.
I love I wish I had that honestly.
All right and oh, and
(52:17):
and a bunch of misogyn and shit a bunch of these uh
women need to be more nice to me.
It's like, dead ass.
On one of my backup account on the actual end of a species
account, I messed around in looked for a religious video,
specific one, that I was going to use or something.
(52:38):
And now the FYP for that, where I don't even have
the history, like the history ain't even enable, it's all people have you come to Christ?
Have you come to Christ?
Oh my God.
All right, so here's the last one.
That's the last one?
This is the last one you don't see it?
All right we're do this you see it.
(52:59):
That one I'm not going to take out in post because
streamyard needs to know y'all fucking up.' up
when Gramps said, oh sorry, when Gramps heard
Kendrick Lamar and says, watch this okay y Yo, I'm
I think we're all going to be agreed on this one.
I'm not sure, but let's go.
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It's a cultural divide.
I'm get it on the floor.
they tried to the
I'm I'm
Let's go
(53:41):
let's go.
Grandpa heard 40 acres in a mule and
was like I remember when I stopped there from helping.
They made a song about me.
Let me do that little
yo oh
(54:03):
my god oh my god that's my
my god I like this one because it was cute
but three was with solace
it's and then the all the women around
him was like don't blame me I couldn't vote.
Don't blame
(54:28):
you I couldn't vote oh shit shit I couldn't vote.
You really about to do it?
Yeah but let's be honest if I would have been able to vote, we
would have stopped it faster We would have stopped it much quicker
you wouldn't have even rent it what you mean for shut the fuck up
for acres in the mule that's wild wild work oh
(54:50):
my goodness I like this one because it was cute
uh I want to
I grandpa used to carry his books to school
with a a bandanna tied to a stick you know what I'm saying like he was
He had
one he had to he had to keep it clean for the whole week um
(55:16):
here's I did think
it was cute I did think it was cute, right?
Here's the deal.
you know I'm about to say some shit.
Here's the deal.
Here's the deal.
I'm more worried about their needs than I am about
the the cultural appropriation.
Because because they were fall risk.
(55:40):
You know what I'm saying?
This is a this is a there was there was at least three walkers in
that stere at home and I'm like, listen, I I love the
solidarity, but it's you could take a break.
You could take a break because
the facility we don't need any more falls.
We've we uh a whole 200 days without any falls.
We don't need to do this.
(56:02):
You know what I'm saying?
You've done enough.
You can rest.
I get in the swimming pool.
Y'all got it?
Just so y'all y'all don't see it the first hashtag there was senior swag
Senior swagag.
Okay now switch I switch it's appropriation now.
All right.
So look, thank you for uh for listening
(56:22):
to this show if if y'all ain't uh subscribing to this madness, I don't know what the fuck you're doing.
If you're not like uh
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(56:44):
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You might as well.
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What are you doing?
I have no idea, no clue.
But I uh appreciate you
for listening uh and we're going to
be out for now, but more to come, more to come.
(57:06):
Any final thoughts?
You really about to do it?
Forty acres in the mule.
This is bigger than the music.
I'm have some nostalgia.
He was like and and watch the equalizer.
oh, apparently watch the equalizer Watch theizer.
(57:28):
I don't know about theaganda, but there there we go.
I don't she ain't cop.
She'sIA agent that hates the cops she's
international work outside the law and shit shit
so good, but it's bad but it's good.
So uh I have this I have this I
want to say it's a guilty pleasure, but I'm not even sure.
Like, have you guys seen the the
equalizer movies with Denzel?
Yes.
I seen the equalizer of course yeah so there's a TV
show with Queen Latifa where she's the equalizer
and it's got five seasons it's been just it's
(00:56):
like 24 with Queen Latifah yeah and
and as of this week I've seen every episode I'm caught up.
like I didn't know this thing existed a few months ago and I binged
the hell out of it because it's a mix of
the right like the writing's bad, right?
(01:17):
But but but they got names
in in the show like like they got names like
guest stars that are that are actual like like Jada like
names have been named names right, right. right.
big names, but like the plot the
writing is is bad, but but the show's good, but
(01:39):
it's bad at the same time, right?
And so it it got me to thinking like, well I'm I love Queen Latif.
Like I'm always going to support
what you know, you and I like you know what I'm saying and I's?
Yeah, it's Queen keep your head up.
What keep your head up
but then
(02:02):
I said, hey, wait a minute, is this the equalizer
movie versus the TV show like the movie wow, like
bop here.
Did y'all know that both of these is based?
I thought it was based on a book now.
It's based on an old TV show.
Yes.
(02:22):
I actually didn't know that.
And the Queen Latifa show is closer to the TV show than the movies are.
Oh no that I didn't know because I've never seen the TV show.
oh my god hold on This is
this is hold on I' I'm hoping I'm hoping I
can get this but like if you if you look
(02:42):
this up, if you look up like the equalizer original TV show, you're going to see some
of the like and I guess we
have to contextualize it because it's in the 80s, but some of the worst stunts,
like Broby shooting somebody and then they turn around
full and throw themselves through a plate glass thing.
(03:03):
It's funny.
Is it like that that video?
Remember that video where my man he gets shot and he goes
and then he like does a slow mush
literally like that.
How close is it real quick Let me ask this.
How close is it to a movie?
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It's That's a good question.
The wait, the original TV show, nah, it's the
original TV show is all is it's the equal as
a white dude, old white dude with like white hair
and like retired like same thing, Robert McCall, retired CIA,
doing cases, blah, blah, blah.
It actually remind me of watching of watching um
(03:51):
the incredible Hulk TV show.
Lou F..
But but without the Hulk, it's just like, hey, I'm I'm here.
I'm doing a case.
B, blah, blah, blah.
And then I I I shoot some motherfuckers like that's what it is.
But the Queen Latifa show, even though
like I'm telling writing the writing is like this.
(04:14):
Like let's say it's me and me and y'all doing the scene.
I'm mad at y'all because y'all did somebody they want
you to do like, yo, I'm so mad at you five minutes later
Well, you know, you had to do what you had to do.
No dialogue took place and no no growth.
Like, hey, we cool now.
Like literally like no character art.
You know what, man I get it.
(04:36):
I get it totally and completely five minutes ago I was unreasonable.
Yeah, we we breaking up the team.
y'all like betrayed me but.
But yeah, let's go a party and we do some karaoke together.
Like it's like that.
But I can't like if anybody that wasn't
(04:59):
part of us said, yo, that show sucks, I would be like, what you what what you mean?
What you what you're talking about?
which brings us to uh introducing
the end of a species podcast.
Welcome.
I'm Jeff, here with Sean and super solid and uh here's our intro.
(05:31):
I cannot believe.
I cannot believe.
I'm getting away with that.
Like I believe it.
I believe it nobody gonna nobody
say nothing they just like okay make that the intro for the uh
for the Kendrick Lamar episode that's the
one I'm getting away with it and and Sean
(05:53):
this was this whole episode was was was your doing
oh yeah the whole that's crazy yeah
top to bottom the whole that's all you and and uh
I want to say that like it's not
like I disagree that we need to do the episode like I agree but
(06:14):
when when the Kendrick Lamar halftime show was going on
and we were all in that discord room like you looked like
you look like somebody who never knew there was a toys or us
you'd never been introduced to Toys or Us before.
And suddenly now if you
(06:35):
became aware that Toys or Us existed that you never knew about it before.
You seven and you're like, oh my God toys there's
no toy stores and then somebody brings you not just to like Toys, but like Toys Us like in the middle of
like in in in the city, in New York, like,
like you just open and over like over stimulated, like all the toys are here?
(06:57):
That was your face.
It was real. like the halftime show, because
I was determined to uh stream it
um, like I was determined
to stream it in my discourse server. uh because I obviously I was going to watch it.
But like it was when it came on,
(07:20):
it was everything that I that I wanted it to be.
Like it was every time I will say that like every time Kendrick
puts on a show on television, he does
things that I wish other artists would do.
He has like, in my own opinion, more artistry
than most people who go on stage and and
(07:43):
rap about anything that is like, because he's a conscious
or people call it conscious rappers.
and all of these conscious rappers get on stage.
Most death ain't getting on stage and putting on a show like Kendrick puts on a show.
He's just not.
He's just not like it's.
Exactly.
(08:04):
They're just coming on.
They're doing their songs and they're going home.
Hendrick puts on a show.
He puts on a performance.
It is an entire thing.
The show is it has symbolism within it.
He's religious, so it has usually has some form of
religious symbolism in it for him that is significant to him,
(08:25):
political symbolism in it for him,
racial symbolism in it every single time.
It is there is no question.
There is no question like,
and this Super Bowl halftime show, I mean, look, I'm going to go ahead and do it.
I'm going to go ahead and say it.
I'm a glaze and say, this is the best Super Bowl halftime show
(08:46):
in NFL history.n in NFL history.
Beyon Beyonce is a very close second.
She did very well, but this is
this is the best Super Bowlalftime show in in NFL history.
The political message was on point.
The songs that he chose were perfect.
I could not have chosen a better playlist.
(09:09):
The moment that
he he took advantage of with uh with the with
his d track, uh after winning five Grammys, not too long before that
um was was perfect.
It was one.
And and he let that be its own moment
whilst he ended it with the things that he wanted to end it with uh
(09:31):
because he didn't end it on the this song that he won five Grammys with.
He ended it on
uh what is considered to be right now his his
album's anthem, uh, what he put on an album GNX,
his album's anthem TV off.
And it was and it was absolutely beautiful and
the messaging behind it, I don't I don't know if people, because I heard someone say,
(09:55):
and I'm yapping, so I'm I'm going shut up after this.
But I heard someone say before that when he said uh
the revolution about to be televised, you picked the right time,
but the wrong guy, that was corny and he shouldn't have said that.
And I was just like, oh, you don't you didn't watch the halftime show then.
because the first thing he said was the revolution about to
(10:15):
be televised and the last thing he said was turn this TV off.
Yeah.
Turn the light off.
It It's just, I'm like the way that he set that up was
now we've been da Vinci coding through this halftime show for like weeks now.
(10:37):
And I guess I'm not going to call this like
the question of the week because I don't know that I really want to do a question every
week, but I think this question merits asking
when you have a Super Bowl halftime show, right?
Like I and I think of the last few, like say, uh, Dre
50 M like that halftime show,
(10:59):
Do you have a responsibility to do
something more than just do the entertaining?
Like should that be a requirement now?
I think that
I want to say yes.
(11:20):
I want to say yes, but I'm I'm going to keep I'm going to be so honest.
I don't think some niggas have it in them to do anything
more than just performing the songs.
I think that if you are and I do believe that Kendrick
is a revolutionary artist, I do believe that if you're a revolutionary
artist, then you have a responsibility
(11:41):
to push forward revolutionary thoughts
and uh revolution and create revolutionary
potential every time you give a performance, but especially
in on a stage like the Super Bowl have time show, because we
if we think about it for more than two seconds, this is uh
the Super Bowl halftime show is it's an NFL halftime show.
(12:05):
The NFL, the same NFL that blackballed
Colin Kaepernick for taking a knee because black people were getting killed in the streets.
This is the same Super Bowl
pathftime show, which is why the the line
hit so hard at least for me, the line hit so hard and
the show was just going to be amazing to me because I
(12:27):
can see him talking through like the TV
to the NFL commission and saying, you picked the right
time, but the wrong guy.
You don't like niggas like me.
You don't like niggas who talk about things that I talk about.
You blackballed niggas for taking knees.
I'm not a take a knee type of nigga.
(12:49):
I'm a revolutionary nigga.
I don't do peaceful protest.
I'm gonna burn this bitch down and you them fucked up and put it on TV.
What do you?
Oh, I mean, I agree with sis,
like uh, I'm not expecting rascal flats to
go out there and talk about seasoning the means of production and shit like that
(13:11):
you know what I' imagine could you imagine it?
having propert
is theft like I'm I'm not I'm I don't I don't yeah so
but as far as the best halftime show of all
time it's obviously Janet Jackson and and JT
for reasons that I won't mention.
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I't I
won't I won't expound at all. um
now I'm I'm expound because when when that
happened when the thing we're not talking about happened I had,
I swear to you, I had a hooter's wing in my mouth
and and it fell back under the plate.
And for y'all to know, like I'm a big dude for y'all
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to know that a hooter's wing fell out my mouth and onto the plate
that's never happened before never happened here's
wing is un never never happened
before that never happened since will never happen
again oh God a dramatic irony.
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That was just just so y'all know that was MTV's halime show.
They they went to MTV told them to put together a halftime show and they put that together.
That's what they put together.
And at the end it was JT and Janet Jackson
and we got to see what we saw.
I'm I'm so glad
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that this halftime show was what it was.
I am so glad that it was what it was.
I'm I'm an Easter egg.
I'm an Easter egg head ass nigga.
Like I when when we've I
think we've had a discussion, Jeff, about the difference
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in my palate alone based on just because of a Jordan peel, right?
We just got finished talking about Donald Glover,
right?
And now we have this media that is
encouraging us where it's cool It's it's
it's part of communion, like to be communal with each other to
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relate to each other to swap ideas, fan theories,
critical analysis about these uh, you know, film analysis, uh, a
song and out music analysis about
this new shit that's coming out.
If anybody ever doubted that we were in another black Renaissance,
you're sorely like you're sorely mistaken.
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We are in the middle of another black Renaissance.
We have been for at least five years now, if not
ten um I'm going to venture I'm going to say since
2012 since the beginning of the uh the Black Lives Matter movement
And so
to see it permeate a space where you are expected to stop thinking,
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because that's what it is.
It is the Coliseum.
The Super Bowl is the Coliseum, its
gladiators taking each other's heads off with a nice uh gester
in the middle of it to to make you laugh and giggle in some music
where you can eat your popcorn and
uh look toward the emperor, who was conveniently
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on the sidelines and and encourage
him to point his thumb in the right direction.
commercial and commercial and commercial it's
it is the it is the epitome of capitalism.
The super is the it is the number one day for capitalism.
The number one day we have days like
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Black Friday.
Yeah, Black Friday.
I met more capitalist advertisement, but but like, but yes, yes.
The promotion it is if it's the Super Bowl is the worship
of capitalism. hundred percent.
It is it's Christmas for capitalism.
It's it's like a hundred percent, right?
You have all the components you have a
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bunch of nigas putting in the labor, like huge labor, getting CTE
in to the benefit of their white owners, right?
um products, uh
you have you have uh commodity fetisism being shoved in your face, right?
To where if I tell niggas that I don't like football, they lose their mind.
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They go oh, you're a six foot three, 300 pound black man.
You don't like like football?
What the fuck is wrong with you, okay?
Yeah, nigga that's That's
no, but literally that's their response.
uh he liked dick for real um
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and so and smack dab in the middle
of it it's like you cannot turn away anymore.
You can't you cannot turn away any more because even in the height of all of that the biggest record
of the decade, I' must say it.
Which is a dys track, which is a diss track
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against an in against the the the symbol
of the co- the coopting of black culture.
It is I mean it it's all full circle.
You have a man who who symbolizes the
coopting of black culture of hip hop culture of hip hop, right?
And you have a love song to the hatred of that.
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Now that love song is on a national stage at
at Christmas for capitalism and he's
in and and he's in the middle of telling you where you actually belong
and at the end it says game over game
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he he's the that's the most gangster shit
and y'all know I come I was I was raised on gang culture
and the way that you prove yourself in many cases
is to completely discard uh uh or
or or piss in the face or what was it was it called
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uh fly in the face of the status quo?
I know what your rules say to do.
I know what's appropriate.
I know what would be taboo for me to do right here and now, but
I'm going to do it here in your face blatantly.
for kindred to do it means he's
standing on business he means this shit.
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Exactly.
And uh
the only the only thing I would have doubled
up on the only the only space that's left for me is
how we are going to respond.
What what are we going to take with this battery in
our back and what are we going to do with this battery in our back?
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You know what I mean?
So that's that's where I'm met with it.
So before we look at the battery, right?
Like
not everybody fell in line with this, right?
And I want to I want to compare this to like
the Beyonce halftime show for the Beyonce halftime show,
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formation, right?
And everybody said everybody on our side was like, yes that was it.
That was it.
That was the one That was the one right
That's why I said like man,
I'm telling you and people on the other side
like we know about were like no I you know we
don't mentioned this on the show.
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No, but I'm talking about like this was like clean racial
divide, but oh yeah remember the SNL the SNL skate
where people are the day we were people were lost
shit lost their minds.
that was a clean break.
With this it's a little different because you got
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the uss that are looking at that like yeah, that.
But then there are some uses
that look at that and are like so this isn't really the place for that, isn't it?
That part.
No, that part.
It's it's the uh this is why I chalk up
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the hatred oh, excuse me, this is why I chalk up all the
hatred of uh the Kendrick Lamar have time show
uh that we've seen and what we saw in the
past with the Beyonce have time show to just black
hate and in particular, for us, just dark skined hate.
It's just this is just how people react
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to black art and things that are unapologetically black.
Anything that is unapologetically black, they hate.
It goes with texturism, colorism, featurism, all that shit.
Like when nigas see my hair, they be like, can't
you can't you like touch your hair or can't you just have straight long hair or whatever whatever?
Nah, nigga I want I want
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culture, nigga, what are you talking about?
And it for them, it's too much.
And when the art is on TV, I heard
someone say a black person say, I don't
this is a Super Bowl talking about Kendrick's half time show.
This is a Super Bowl.
I don't want to think about politics
at the Super Bowl.
I was just to say.
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And I'm just like, and and that that is a
huge consensus with a lot of coon ass niggers
who just want the status quo to stay exactly what it is.
Here's the here's the issue I have, though, is that
when you have and look, no no shade, but
when you have most of the talk about the actual
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game be about Taylor Swift,
right?
And there are people who literally hate the Chiefs on the strength of Taylor Swift.
That's it.
Some of the people who hate the Chiefs can't spell blitz, like dead ass.
Would't be able to like you show them a formation
and be like, yo, where's the where's the uh where's the tight end?
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No idea.
Right?
Well, oh, I see a tidy.
yo, low hanging fruit, but I yo.
um and that's politics, right?
A good chunk of the conversation about the Super Bowl
was the president showing up.
Yeah, no 100% and people like so you got time to boo the president
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at the Super Bowl and feel a feel away about that.
You are thinking about politics.
It's it's it's there like whether you like it's like me saying
it's like me through monsoon season walking outside
and be like, I just don't want to think about rain today.
Like motherfucker, it's raining.
Right?
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It's everywhere.
So when you say, I don't want to think about politics, that's what
they so what what they're actually saying is I don't want to think about our politics.
I'll let them do their politics and let them do their
uh their colonization and racism and blah, blah, blah.
But I don't want to think about what our response to that is.
I just want to go to the Super Bowl, eat my my
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uh my hot Cheetos and call it a day.
That part.
That part. $37 dollars for a tough ass pretzel.
No, literally this.
I think that it's to answer your question directly,
uh when two and a half time show, does someone have the obligation or
the the responsibility to send a political message?
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I want I want to say yes, so
badly, but I can't say yes so badly. uh so
I'm I'm going to say no directly,
but I'm going to say no, but if that's okay.
Okay, uh, no, but us
as revolutionaries need to make sure that
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we are constantly grabbing the spotlight in these moments
to stop nigas who don't have political messages
from getting shows like this.
Because JayZ is
in control of the recruitment for that the halftime show.
I don't know if many people know that uh but but
Jay-Z is it Sean Carter is in control
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of choosing who it is that uh that
goes and performs at the halftime show and putting it together and all this other stuff.
And and that nigga is one of those niggas that
tends to be very problematic whenever revolutionary
conversation comes up, which is strange because it's
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the wife it's Beyonce you know what just hit me?
what?
When 444 came out and I first heard the
story of Oj, I had a not like us moment.
I was like this is this is one of them ones
and that song connects to aake this
like it all goes back to dissing Drake somehow
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Push a sample story
of Oj for like
so is it like I you know we'll do another I
know you say you want to do more like Kendrick stuff, but I think we we need to do
a deep dive into how much revolutionary action
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and hip hop leads to dissing Drake somehow.
No, it's
so funny because like this is my point.
Like Sean Carter is in control of
choosing who it is that goes and performs at the Super
Bowl and Beyonce is his wife, but Sean Carter is the
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type of nigger to be like, is this really the time and place though?
And you would ask like, oh, well, why would this nigga chooses kindrick to do X, Y and Z?
Because Sean Carter is nothing about if nothing about nothing but that scrilla.
That's it.
That's all.
That's it.
If he can put an investment into something and make more money,
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he's going to do that.
He doesn't care what message you have.
He doesn't care what it is that you have to say.
He doesn't care if you're pro black anti-black, nothing.
He'll do a song with whoever, however, so
long as it makes him money and him putting uh
one of the biggest artists he had he had almost no choice.
It was the song of the summer.
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He he was like, this is it.
This is the one.
Every time I go into a club, every time I hit the VIP
section, they're playing not like us at least four times.
at least four times.
So I got I got to at least look at Kendrick to
see if he, you know, would do the Super Bowl halftime
show. um and it is
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I really do think that there
is something to be said about how we
need to take that spotlight and take
away their ability to choose because if
they choose something else, they'll be risking
losing the thing that things that they care about the most.
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Like if I don't choose this revolutionary person
and this person with this political message, I'm going to miss out
on an opportunity to make more money for myself, and we
all know no capitalists will ever miss out on that opportunity.
Do you think that means we have to tie it to consumerism?
Nah, I don't think Kendrick tied it to consumerism at all.
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No, no.
I'm not saying in the messaging.
I'm saying
in the in delivery
appeal in the making it mass like, because
the reason that you you keep playing that song four
times in the club is because everybody wants to hear it four times.
100%.
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100%.
I think that it is it goes into I don't think we have to tie it into consumerism at all.
I think we have to tie it into populism.
I think we need to be good at what it is that we're
doing and make everyone make it undeniable that
we are good at what it is that we're doing.
One of the things that I told you, Jeff,
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was is that I want to increase our presence
on different platforms.
I want to I want to come up with schedules and increase our
pleas presence on different platforms because we're entertaining ourselves.
Like we are our us just just being us.
That's entertainment because we just we just got it.
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I don't know what it is.
It's just it's just a way we wake up in the morning and
piss entertainment. like that's what we do.
That's what we do.
And when we're out there and we're super smart,
when we're out there and we're doing our debates on TikTok or we're
doing our nosy neighbors on Instagram, or we're doing our podcasts,
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uh or whatever it is that we're doing.
We are we are insanely smart.
This is a group of elites.
I I really, I really need to say that.
Not to not to glaze us, but like seriously, we
are a force to be reckoned with.
We are a problem.
If someone wants to say something about
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uh uh how capitalism is better in this room
right now, not going to it out.
Cut it out.
Stop playing.
I feel better.
Yeah.
And the only things that we have to do is increase our
presence because we already know we're already funny.
We know how to make jokes.
We know how to make it entertaining.
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We just need to appeal to the populace so they can be like,
oh, this shit really is entertaining.
and most of the times they don't even know they learn any shit from it.
They don't even know that they are being revolutionary
just by listening to the podcast, just by building revolutionary potential.
And I do think that this goes into the point I' a land right here.
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This goes into the point that we don't need to
tie it into consumerism or anything because I want child to think about this.
Kendrick sold 350,000 units
when his album came out in the first week, 350,000 units.
We didn't know the album was going to drop.
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We had no clue.
We woke up one day and
I got a message from Jeff that said new kindrick dropped
at 10 o'clock in the morning.
We put and
to put that in context, 350 K in the streaming era, unheard of.
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Insane Abs absolutely insane.
Yeah.
And when when we're talking about how how good Kendrick
is of being a revolutionary artist and how much inspiration
we should take from him for being that good as a revolutionary
artist to the point where he doesn't say shit
drops an album and it sells 35,000
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units in the first week.
Drake promoted his album for months and
struggled to get 250,000 units
in the first week had a 40% decline
in streams and rest streams the next day after the album came out
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because it was trash.
There was no message.
Yeah.
And it's also that moment like you you're not meeting that moment.
And if you don't meet the moment that that's the other that's the otherment.
um but I do like I'm going to jump off of this being entertaining
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and I want to introduce a segment for this specific episode.
Because, look, we're we're going to talk
at some point about the the criticism and the people who are not on the on the bandwagon with us.
We're going to talk about all sorts, like we're going to look at this from different angles.
But there are people who have like, I think,
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jumped on the bandwagon maybe too much.
Maybe not.
I don't know.
And so this segment is
one that we're going to call appropriation or appropriate.
And and so what I'm going to do is I'm going to show y'all
some people, bless their heart, who
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are doing the Kendrick
uh, not like us dance.
and uh, I want like we're going to watch them.
I'll and then we'll discuss it really quickly if it's appropriation
or appropriate and this is the first one go.
s get on the music
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I don't know that I could say that that one is appropriation.
Yo, you did you saying they hit it.
They hit it.
I ain't going to you.
I't.
I ain't like it.
it just fell gross oh shit oh
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shit about it we had we excited that mama could uh
to do a two stage mamaan is insane
they Japanese uh I don't know
I don't know what they are I mean that was Japanese ring but go ahead good
oh I don't know they might be I don't know I just don't know but um
(35:38):
what's so so what's your what's your objection?
Let me ask let me ask.
What's your objection?
um
wasn't black
I knew you was going to say that man I knew
you was going to say that I hear that I hear that I hear that That's not ridiculous to say that's not ridiculous to say
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s not ridiculous here's my here's here's my thing right?
It's fun man we be so
happy when we see white people or non-bl black people doing black shit when they do it well
or even not badly.
Do you know what I'm saying?
We get so pumped we get so hype.
We were like oh shit.
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And then and all I could think of was like damn,
I hope this uh I hope mama son don't say nothing crazy about black people
something to telling I like her.
I'm scared to like her because I know she' probably going to be like,
oh, those those chansies or your mother
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something like that I hear that I hear that.
No, that's not it's not ridiculous to say that.
I think that the reason why I liked that so much
was because of the I I like personally.
I love me some solidarity with other people of color.
I love me some solidarity with other people of color and I get
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that there are different uh when
when it comes to Asian, there are different ethnic backgrounds or whatever.
And Japanese is like the worst one. um but
in in the in the US and Aans, literally this.
No, that ass, that ass. uh, but in the US of A
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in the US of a?
True.
I feel as though, I I feel as
though, uh when it comes to uh the hatred
of people of color in general, uh white people I I I can't do it myself.
I've been actually trying to do this figure out a way to figure out uh
the differences and looks of a person between
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Korean, Japanese, Chinese,
um Vietnamese, you know, all that shit.
Because, uh, people say it's easy, but I I honestly, I just don't know.
I don't I think it's because I don't see enough Asian people
to know because like if I look at twins long enough,
I could tell who's who from down the street.
Right.
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So I think I just need to you for being honest.
But it's it
is an exposure thing when you're not exposed enough, you just don't you don't know the difference.
Now, I could tell, but I'm going to tell you when you bring up Japanese and Korean, you got to understand that
for the most part, um there's,
you know, Korea was slaves to Japan up until
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about 60 years ago, maybe going on 70 years ago.
Yeah, yeah.
And so
that one's a real that one's a real doozy because I mean,
if you didn't enslave the country of people with what you think they was doing.
Of course.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
um, but other than that, yeah, I could tell it.
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Well, if you didn't like that one, but I well hold on.
I'm just say I liked it because I love me some solid in
the US survey, I love me some solidarity with some other people of color and I don't
I don't necessarily never mind,
let's see the next one and I'll we'll we'll go over it.
We'll go over it. y'all going to love this one.
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Just off, just off, rip.
You're going to love this one.
Hold on, hold on.
When your church friend keeps saying that church is an actual
cool church, the cool church in question.
Wait, I don't see nothing.
You don't see nothing?
I don't see nothing.
Oh, that's crazy.
Let me close some of my windows, maybe.
(39:43):
Soid has 413 windows open.
Yeah, and they all on Google Chrome and that eats all the ram.
The ram is matter of fact, you know what else I'm gonna do I
We're?
I got garage openage.
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I tell you my
nigga grinding I'm trying to make sure
that we talked about this increasing our our
um our presence, that's exactly what the fuck I'm trying to do.
No, I feel that I feel that.
Okay.
(40:24):
I'm all the way free.
Can you see it down?
You see it now?
I can't see shit.
Yo, I'm what I'm going to bring it down and then bring it back up blah, blah.
I saw it when you brought it down.
There it is, there it is, There you go beautiful beautiful beautiful.
All right. so when your friend keeps telling you
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or when your friend keeps saying their church is an actual cool
church, the church in question.
All right.
I mean, appropriate.
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I think
we just found the the reason why solid doesn't like the other one.
Hey, not by g God, he was
like yo, it's
the putting the bike out to the crowd to the crowd to the crowd.
(41:33):
See, this one this one is completely appropriation,
but this is this is totally different.
Like
uh what, what, uh grandma
did over there, she didn't she wasn't singing they not like us.
She was just doing a walk, kind of mimicking the performance.
They' like a TikTok challenge kind of thing.
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This church is saying they not like us,
and I guarantee you none of them niggas on the stage knows what that means.
Yeah.
I know I know what they think it means.
Oh no, 100% 100% percent.
What do you think they mean non-Cchristians?
Well, that's exactly for
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the matters Yeah,
no, they mean non-white Christianians, but yeah, that's
that's what they yeah, yeah, yeah wasps
No, no, no.
I can see it.
I can see it.
I can see it.
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ai.
(43:23):
The look on solid's face was worth replaying it.
I do think that uh I do agree
with what Solid has said my original response to this
was going to be that I think this was perfectly fine.
I think this was this was perfectly appropriate
uh on the merit by itself because I
think that there is a way to because let let's be so for real here.
(43:48):
Black culture is uh synonymous today with pop culture.
There is there is nothing different about pop culture that
niggas ain't create, like period.
This is why we'll talk about later on whether
or not white people can say AA VE or not,
but I do believe that there is no form of slang
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today that anyone can use that black people did not create.
um That's but, yeah, but
with this, like to not go off on, you know, to not digress
off on the tangent, uh I I like this.
I think this was 100% appropriate, just like I thought it was
uh with the Asian people because they are not
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taking it for themselves and
just doing it for themselves.
They are paying tribute and paying homage, I feel like to kindred.
That's what it feels like.
Whereas the white people singing they not like us are taking it for themselves
and utilizing it for their own gain rather than
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it being paying homage.
I got I got two more for y'all before we
before we close that. real quick.
I just want to say, yeah, uh
in a vacuum, a lot of time the
Mexican harmies will succumb to white supremacy and be very anti-black.
And that is something that we got to acknowledge and be for real about.
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When it comes to
and we know how race works, we know how F no nationalities work.
We we get it.
Yeah.
But when Mexicans perceive white people being racist against them,
or when white people when Mexicans perceive a white dude
being racist against a black dude, what for
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whatever reason is like conditional solidarity.
They always end up being the homies.
They they always end up standing in solidarity.
and I call me a sap, but a
uh uh an injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
So you go I stand in solidarity with the Mexican hies.
I support it 100%.
(45:59):
Keep keep that thought.
Okay.
Keep that thought.
Oh shit.
Can't see it again.
Pause it real quick, Joe. Put this on the bottom.
Yeah, if you put this on the bottom, I think me.
All right, man.
All right, can you still see it?
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I can see it in there.
All right.
Beautiful.
So there is a streamyard there.
on the Hey,
I' I'm sliding I'm the back like.
(46:41):
Must have a beefin throat
down lamps, tell them breathe um okay
okay okay.
Appropriation for everybody except for the dad
that's crazy that's crazy because you
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know he was just there to support his daughter that's that's crazy he's
I do I I thought
it would be worse like what I saw when you because you told me
about like uh doing the walk.
You said you had videos of white people doing the walk.
And I was like, I don't know what the fuck you talking about until like two
(47:26):
days ago I finally saw my first ever video of someone doing the walk.
But it was a black girl.
So I was like, oh, oh, they're doing the thing.
I thought it would be worse.
I thought it would be worse, honestly. um
I probably say I probably shouldn't have sold you on it. because
you had too much time to think about it and make some sort of
(47:49):
like, you know, like, uh well, I
really didn't think about what's that what's that woman's name that that always
be stealing the black dancers on TikTok?
Oh, uh I know who you talking
I can't remember her name though her her TikTok handle, but I know who I know exactly what you're talking about, though.
But it's like you see you see a black choreographer throw all the
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you know all herbs and spices and the shit and
then you see the one with the ten million views and it's like
oh, yeah, yeah, no, 100% 100% percent, 100% percent I just for me
it's a you know what I'm really thinking about you know what I'm really really thinking about?
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I'm really still thinking about that goddamn church video
because it's it's just y'all laughing and
shit, but I'm I'm so serious because like that was appropriation at its finest.
And this was just like to me,
I guess I'm doing in comparison to that in comparison to that.
This is nothing.
(48:57):
In comparison to that this is just some white people trying to be involved.
Exactly.
That's what it feels like.
That's what it feels like.
Like she goes to she goes to a predominantly black college
and she has some black friends No she was like
no she was a PBI is crazy where
No, no, but no black college is not posting that.
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No, no, but moving it shortly after shortly after.
I think that the I really do think that this one I think this one's all right.
I don't I don't necessarily have any
major issues with it um other
than they're white, but it's there's
no I don't think that they're doing anything super crazy.
(49:46):
They're not.
I feel like it's more it's more just like white people pan homage.
kind of rolling stones, if you get what I mean.
You know what did it for me was the smile.
The smile says, I'm in a theme park
and not, you know, like like Kendrick
sm smile when he goes, say, Drake, that is impish.
(50:06):
That's like you, you and I know what I'm talking about, nigga.
but but their smile is like, ooh,
like a man, like I got a word for y'all.
Oh, what's that?
Negroilia.
Negroilia.
okay, okay.
Reach it reached its heights in uh Paris.
(50:28):
Oh, in the in the 1920s. 1920s.
Yeah. uh there But we're talking
about even before that we're talking about Sarah Bartman style,
right?
um hot and ti Venus style Negophilia.
We're talking about slumming it, right?
(50:50):
Like visiting the culture.
You know, we're going to we're
I also think that there is a a certain,
I don't know, jeacquoix if we're talking about Paris here,
that uh certain white people will have I haven't seen many of these videos.
Like I said, I've only seen one and it was a black girl doing it
(51:13):
um like two days ago uh this
walk. um my fourU page is just full of nigga
shit so I don't really I haven't really seen
this much unless it's like niggas sitting at their desk talking
about how much they hate kindrick and dark skin niggas.
I haven't really seen much of like the dances about the Super Bowl.
(51:34):
But this one for me, I'm would just go ahead and say,
I don't necessarily have a problem with this one.
I feel like
I'm fucked up because my FYP is just y'all.
just niggas that running our circle that's all this on my FYP.
I love that.
(51:55):
I love that and JJ and yeah,
J JJ jj's there uh what's my man's name uh conscious Lee is there
but it's just that's all my FYP is niggas
that the same niggas I see and talk to every day.
It's all my FYP.
I love I wish I had that honestly.
All right and oh, and
(52:17):
and a bunch of misogyn and shit a bunch of these uh
women need to be more nice to me.
It's like, dead ass.
On one of my backup account on the actual end of a species
account, I messed around in looked for a religious video,
specific one, that I was going to use or something.
(52:38):
And now the FYP for that, where I don't even have
the history, like the history ain't even enable, it's all people have you come to Christ?
Have you come to Christ?
Oh my God.
All right, so here's the last one.
That's the last one?
This is the last one you don't see it?
All right we're do this you see it.
(52:59):
That one I'm not going to take out in post because
streamyard needs to know y'all fucking up.' up
when Gramps said, oh sorry, when Gramps heard
Kendrick Lamar and says, watch this okay y Yo, I'm
I think we're all going to be agreed on this one.
I'm not sure, but let's go.
(53:19):
It's a cultural divide.
I'm get it on the floor.
they tried to the
I'm I'm
Let's go
(53:41):
let's go.
Grandpa heard 40 acres in a mule and
was like I remember when I stopped there from helping.
They made a song about me.
Let me do that little
yo oh
(54:03):
my god oh my god that's my
my god I like this one because it was cute
but three was with solace
it's and then the all the women around
him was like don't blame me I couldn't vote.
Don't blame
(54:28):
you I couldn't vote oh shit shit I couldn't vote.
You really about to do it?
Yeah but let's be honest if I would have been able to vote, we
would have stopped it faster We would have stopped it much quicker
you wouldn't have even rent it what you mean for shut the fuck up
for acres in the mule that's wild wild work oh
(54:50):
my goodness I like this one because it was cute
uh I want to
I grandpa used to carry his books to school
with a a bandanna tied to a stick you know what I'm saying like he was
He had
one he had to he had to keep it clean for the whole week um
(55:16):
here's I did think
it was cute I did think it was cute, right?
Here's the deal.
you know I'm about to say some shit.
Here's the deal.
Here's the deal.
I'm more worried about their needs than I am about
the the cultural appropriation.
Because because they were fall risk.
(55:40):
You know what I'm saying?
This is a this is a there was there was at least three walkers in
that stere at home and I'm like, listen, I I love the
solidarity, but it's you could take a break.
You could take a break because
the facility we don't need any more falls.
We've we uh a whole 200 days without any falls.
We don't need to do this.
(56:02):
You know what I'm saying?
You've done enough.
You can rest.
I get in the swimming pool.
Y'all got it?
Just so y'all y'all don't see it the first hashtag there was senior swag
Senior swagag.
Okay now switch I switch it's appropriation now.
All right.
So look, thank you for uh for listening
(56:22):
to this show if if y'all ain't uh subscribing to this madness, I don't know what the fuck you're doing.
If you're not like uh
following us all in all our social socials that are
in the description, I don't know what you're doing.
uh if you're not buying merch, if you're not buying
for the proletariat merch, 4B by 4tp by solid.com,
(56:44):
indefinitely end of a species merch you're herearing.
You might as well.
um specifically the mugs, then what the fuck are you doing?
What are you doing?
I have no idea, no clue.
But I uh appreciate you
for listening uh and we're going to
be out for now, but more to come, more to come.
(57:06):
Any final thoughts?
You really about to do it?
Forty acres in the mule.
This is bigger than the music.
I'm have some nostalgia.
He was like and and watch the equalizer.
oh, apparently watch the equalizer Watch theizer.
(57:28):
I don't know about theaganda, but there there we go.
I don't she ain't cop.
She'sIA agent that hates the cops she's
international work outside the law and shit shit
so good, but it's bad but it's good.
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