Engaging ESG with Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins
Engaging ESG is a bimonthly series exploring the evolving landscape of ESG communications. Join Jennifer Owens, senior director of marketing at CEEZER, and Kati Kallins, global sustainability lead at Adobe, as they talk with fellow ESG pros to address the pitfalls and possibilities hidden in each of our ESG comms plans — and provide practical answers you and your team can use today.
Episodes
June 18, 2025 • 32 mins
Dr. Victoria Hurth joins Jennifer and Kati for our season finale to explore how purpose-driven governance can transform business decision-making for sustainability.
As co-designer of Cambridge Institute for Sustainability Leadership's course on sustainable marketing and a leader in the development of ISO 37011, Victoria explains why our current economic systems systematically undermine the well-being they claim to create.
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June 4, 2025 • 36 mins
Daphany Rose Sanchez shares her powerful journey from growing up in New York City public housing to founding Kinetic Communities Consulting, a social enterprise transforming energy equity for underserved communities.
Daphany explains why effective climate solutions must meet people where they are, addressing immediate concerns like utility bills rather than abstract climate concepts alone. She demonstrates how building genuine tru...
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May 21, 2025 • 26 mins
This week, Jennifer and Kati sit down with Al Iannuzzi, Vice President of Sustainability at The Estée Lauder Companies, for a candid conversation about sustainable product evolution in today's challenging business landscape.
Al shares his provocative perspective that "There's no such thing as a green product" and offers practical guidance on communicating sustainability improvements without greenwashing.
Drawing from his book,...
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May 7, 2025 • 32 mins
This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Paull Young, GitHub's first head of sustainability, for a wide-ranging discussion about leveraging technology to accelerate climate action.
From green software to the role of artificial intelligence in climate solutions, our conversation explores how developers and technologists can contribute to sustainability goals, the realities of AI's energy footprint, and why giving people tangibl...
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April 23, 2025 • 35 mins
Professor Robert Barlow from Hult International Business School joins Jennifer + Kati to explore how business schools can effectively teach sustainability and ESG in an evolving political landscape. From building Hult's highly-ranked sustainability curriculum to his current research on Chief Sustainability Officers, Rob discusses why business education needs to develop new frameworks for measuring impact, why sustainability roles c...
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April 9, 2025 • 33 mins
In this episode, Jennifer + Kati are joined by Jarami Bond, founder of Bond Studio and Green Biz 30 Under 30 alum, who shares his unique approach to impact storytelling through film. From his experience at Interface and GreenBiz to founding a mission-driven production company, Jarami explores how to tell authentic stories that honor communities while advancing environmental and social impact. He discusses navigating the current pol...
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March 26, 2025 • 30 mins
In a fascinating conversation about sustainability communications in turbulent times, Louise Wilson, SVP of Partnerships at Futerra, joins Jennifer and Kati to share insights from her decade of helping global brands drive environmental and social impact. From navigating shifting political landscapes to the power of consumer activism in 2025, Louise explores how companies can effectively communicate their ESG efforts by focusing on ...
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March 12, 2025 • 42 mins
What happens when sustainability communications meets pushback? This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Mike Hower, founder of Hower Impact and host of The Sustainability Communicator podcast, for a candid discussion about the state of ESG and sustainability communications in 2025.
From the evolution of corporate sustainability messaging to navigating today's fragmented media landscape, Mike shares insights on why sustainability...
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February 26, 2025 • 34 mins
What does it take to land (or hire for) a sustainability role in 2025? This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Richard Kent, Head of Research for North America; and Catherine Harris, Executive Director, Sustainable Business, Americas, at Acre, a leading sustainability recruiter for more than two decades.
From "kitchen sink" job descriptions to the value of sustainability courses, our guests share candid insights about what compa...
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February 12, 2025 • 32 mins
Sustainability expert Lyrica McTiernan joins Jennifer and Kati to explore how companies are navigating the evolving world of corporate climate commitments. From the shifting terminology of ESG to the emergence of climate transition plans, they discuss what's working, what's broken, and why 2025 could be a pivotal year for corporate environmental action.
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February 12, 2025 • 1 min
Engaging ESG is a bimonthly series exploring the evolving landscape of ESG communications. Join Jennifer Owens, senior director of marketing at CEEZER, and Kati Kallins, global sustainability lead at Adobe, as they talk with fellow ESG pros to address the pitfalls and possibilities hidden in each of our ESG comms plans — and provide practical answers you and your team can use today.
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May 29, 2024 • 29 mins
We’re ending Season Two by tackling the question we’ve all been asked at one time or another: Why should we care about ESG?
In this episode, Kati and Jennifer look at our history, from the early concepts of a “license to operate,” to today’s increasing regulations around sustainability claims coming from both EMEA and the U.S.
As Mike Wallace, decarbonization officer at Persefoni, states: “You’re going to have to figure out wha...
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May 15, 2024 • 33 mins
Scope 3 emissions are the big beast many companies must tackle to truly reduce their carbon footprint. In this episode, Jennifer and Kati explore how major companies like Walmart are going beyond their own operations to drive emissions reductions across their vast supply chain. They also look at what lies beyond Scope 3 in the journey towards true net zero.
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May 1, 2024 • 41 mins
From the roofs over our heads to the floors beneath our feet, the environment built around us surrounds us an estimated 90% of our day — everyday.
In this episode, Kati and Jennifer consider what it takes to make our homes and workplaces healthy, from our carpets, desks and office chairs to massive green roofs designed to support biodiversity.
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April 17, 2024 • 31 mins
When it comes to the road ahead there are no easy fixes, only continuing progress, for the automotive industry. Relatable education on the nuances, trade-offs and limitations in play across vehicles, supply chains and business models are key but so are activist voices.
In this episode, Kati and I flip the script and explore climate activist messaging targeting the auto industry, focusing on great examples of emotional, visceral a...
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April 3, 2024 • 35 mins
Just Transition seeks to build economic and political power for communities to move away from extractive systems towards regenerative ones — but what will take to get there?
In this episode, Jennifer + Kati consider the frameworks and elements that fuels the work towards a just transition, including reparations, social equity as well as decentralizing production/consumption.
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March 20, 2024 • 30 mins
The finance sector is key to unlocking the system-wide change needed to reach net-zero emissions and a recent survey finds the vast majority of senior investors and business executives planning to increase their ESG investment over the next five years.
In this episode, Kati + Jennifer consider where financial institutions are investing and lending money — and how major players like Blackrock, Citi and Chubb are responding to stakeh...
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March 6, 2024 • 30 mins
This week, Kati and Jennifer drive up a semi-sequel to our retail and packaging episode — as in what comes next when it comes to getting food into your fridge and your clothes in your closet.
Shipping and trucking are complicated industries that touch nearly every aspect of our lives. In this episode we’ll consider how ESG professionals are communicating a puzzle that consists of a zillion interlocking pieces and impacts legions ...
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February 21, 2024 • 33 mins
In this episode, Kati + Jennifer cover how big familiar consumer brands like PepsiCo, H&M, Unilever and Amazon are approaching sustainability in packaging and materials — and the lessons we can take from them as ESG comms professionals.
Join us as we dive into the upstream efforts of these companies to reduce waste and carbon emissions, learn how they are communicating these efforts to consumers and of course, consider how they are...
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February 7, 2024 • 19 mins
Fasten your seatbelts because we’re going to zoom into travel — specifically, airlines. It's certainly a hot topic for sustainability but it’s also a return visit for a theme we considered in Season One: airline advertising.
From carbon-neutral claims to sustainable airline fuel, travel is a hotbed of sustainability questions, concerns and even lawsuits. Join Jennifer + Kati as they break it all down and consider its impact on ESG ...
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