#61 QUIT Smoking, Vaping the EASY Way with Wayne Spaulding

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Dino Grigoriadis (00:09):
Welcome to Enjoying Life OTR.
We are building a movement fora healthier, more adventurous
lifestyle across every mile.

Cindy Tunstall (00:18):
Welcome back to Enjoying Life, OTR.
My name is Cindy Tunstall andI'm your host.
Have you ever tried to stopdoing something that you know is
bad for you, but you keep doingit anyway?
Then, of course, you feelterrible because you keep doing
that thing you know is bad foryou, Whether it's smoking,
vaping, drinking too much,eating bad foods, you know not

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exercising when you know thatthat would be good for you,
whatever it is.
So you have this behavior thatyou're doing and you want to get
rid of it.
You want to stop, but it justseems to have such a
stranglehold on you and youcan't break free of that
behavior.
I once heard recently actually Iwas listening to a podcast, I

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forget which one it was, butthey said addictive behavior is
considered to be anything.
You know that is bad for youand yet you continue to do it
anyway.
I was like, okay, well, that'spretty simple.
I could see some things thatmaybe I could fit into that
category.
Well, today we're talking aboutsmoking, vaping and quitting

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drinking the easy way.
Okay, so I know what you'rethinking.
I quit years ago and it was noteasy.
That's the truth for me.
We're going to talk about thatin this episode.
But there is an easier way, andour guest today is Wayne
Spaulding, and he uses the AlanKars method to quit smoking the

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easy way and he's going to sharejust how he did it and how it
can work for you.
Honestly, I had such a difficulttime quitting that I mean I
felt like I was going to chew myarm off to quit smoking, and it
was very difficult for me.
But I learned some things inthis episode that will be
helpful for me in other areas.

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So, even if you're not a smokeror a drinker or vaping or
whatever if those aren't yourthings, this is such a powerful
teaching about mindset and howyou can change the way you think
about a problem to make thathave less of a stronghold on you
.
So, say, you're not a smoker,you don't drink or you don't

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vape none of those things butyou have another issue that
you've been struggling to try tomake a change, but you haven't
been able to do it.
You're going to find some toolsin this episode that will be
life changing for you if you canapply them.
So y'all please join me inwelcoming Wayne Spalding to the
show.

Wayne Spaulding (02:45):
Oh, thank you, Cindy.
It's great to be here and I amso excited to be able to talk
about Alan Carr's method to stopsmoking or drinking, which I've
used the method for both, and Ithink we can start with smoking
, of course, and I'd be glad totell you my story and how I got
to be here a little bit, if thatsounds right.

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Just the usual stuff.
Starting when you're a kid, youknow I was 15 years old and I
thought smoking, ok, you knowit's a way to be more grown up.
You know a little moreattractive and more of a rebel.
You know you want to be thecool kids, that type of thing I
so did, that was me, and thatgoes on a bit.
There's a honeymoon period whereit's a pretty cool thing, you

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know.
I remember being able tofinally buy my cigarettes.
You know, like at the store andthinking, oh OK, I guess I'm a
grown up, now I can buy them.
They think I'm old enough tohave them.
You know, like it's kind of aweird deal, but yeah, absolutely

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.
And then the misery sets in.
It's something that againbecomes part of the thing, the
allure, the charm of it.
It's dangerous, it's rebellious.
We know it's bad for us, butwhen you're at that age it's not
like you know you're going tolight a cigarette and get sick
or anything.
You just think, well, okay, youdon't want to get hooked on the
things.
You know that's a differentmatter.
But you know you're not goingto be, like you know, physically

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impaired or anything fromtrying a few cigarettes.
Right, and even when we start,we don't think that health
ramifications will be.
You know what they obviouslyturn into for people, or we
wouldn't, you know, even dabbleif we really knew what was going
to happen, would we?

Yeah, for sure, it just seems like such a.
You know, I think theconsequences being so far out,
we're thinking more young.
You know that's a long way.
It takes a long time to do somedamage to your lungs, and not
that anybody was even thinkingabout it that logically at that
point.

That's exactly right, cindy, you hit the nail
on the head.
We think of it as a long-termproblem and, yeah, time flies
and it becomes a problem in theshort term, actually, because
that honeymoon period doesn'tlast that long actually,
actually because that honeymoonperiod doesn't last that long
actually.
You know, there's a funny thing, looking back with alan carr's
method.
You know we talk about, um, howyou know the idea of, okay, you

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know, is it really attractiveand appealing, and all that
stuff, how we get hooked.
But then we talk about we kindof smoke subconsciously after
that.
You know, like most of oursmoking lives, we really don't
want to be smokers.
Even fairly soon after that,like I realized later that if I
was, even when I was 22 yearsold in the us navy, thinking I

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was a pretty cool character, youknow, having a drink in one
hand and a cigarette in theother and walking down a foggy
pier in the night by mysubmarine, and I had this
romantic image going on, right,but but you know what?
Here's what Alan Carr pointedout.
Imagine me or anyone feelingthat way about romanticizing at
that age.
I had already been smoking atthat point until I was 25.

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I started when I was 15.
I'd been smoking for 10 or 12years like 10 years at least,
right.
So if a magic genie hadappeared in front of me even in
that moment and said to me look,wait, I'm a magic genie from
the future and you know you'vebeen thinking about quitting
smoking.
You know you have, I know youhave and I've got this magic

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button and if you push thisbutton, you're going to
instantly wake up tomorrowmorning.
You know you smoke all day,once you want tonight, but
you'll wake up tomorrow morningas if you'd never lit a single
cigarette in your life.
I can assure you, cindy, Iwould have pressed that button,
would you?

yeah, I think so .
I think there reached a timewhere I would have.
But yeah, like like you said inthe beginning I would have kept
going.
But after a while I mean thinkabout even 10 years of smoking,
especially now cigarettes are soexpensive I mean you've spent a
lot of money on there.
You kind of you almost arecirculating your whole life
around this one activity.
When can I take my break fromwork?
Can I smoke in this person'scar?

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And um, should I buy a cartonof cigarettes?
Should I just buy the one?
I never bought a carton cause Ithought, no, I'm going to quit
smoking and I smoked for yearsand years.
And I smoked for, you know,years and years and I even think
I even felt foolish about that.
I was like I could have atleast saved some money, buy him
in a carton, but I never didbecause I kept thinking I was
going to quit pretty soon but itnever happened.

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Oh, my goodness.

You and I have so much in common, cindy.
Honestly, that's the samedynamic I had.
I found myself I was smokingtwo and a half packs a day and
I'd smoked for over 30 years.
Okay, but I wouldn't buycartons.
The only time I would buy thoseis if I had to travel.
And then I knew like, okay, Idon't want to have to run around
and buy cigarettes, so I wouldbuy a carton or two before, like

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a road job, when I worked infactories and things like that.
And even then and actually talkabout that in my seminar like I
remember thinking that you know.
And even then and I actuallytalk about that in my seminar
like I remember thinking, well,you know, you should buy cartons
more often because you'resaving money and it's more
convenient when you run around.
But then immediately I startedthinking, yeah, but you tend to
smoke even more, don't you?
And you're kind of poisoningyourself.

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Like there's this dynamic oflike buying the carton when I
rarely did it.
That was both good and bad, ifyou know what I mean, cindy.

Yeah, I didn't even think about that.
I spent a while since I stoppedsmoking, but that was a part of
it as well.
I thought, yeah, I'm reallygoing to, because it was a way
of pacing myself, because I wascounting, I'm on this pack and
I'm going to try to limit it tothis one pack a day.
That was the way I wasmonitoring myself, I guess was
the way I was monitoring myself,I guess.

Oh God, yeah, me too the same thing you at
least try to like.
Well, the thing about buying apack or two a day is that, well,
you can't really smoke morethan a pack or two a day, can
you?
Because, you know and for me itwas one pack a day.
That's how we, of course,started to get to that level,
which, by the way, they designedcigarette packs right.
They don't call a cigarette acigarette, they call it a
nicotine delivery system.

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Just be aware of that.
They know what they're doing.
When they put 20 in a pack,scientists have figured out that
that's about the right amountfor the average smoker to become
hooked and stay hooked, andthen pretty soon you've got to
buy another pack.
And then, what right?
So, anyway, the point being,it's insidious and, as you were
saying earlier, it does creepinto and take over our lives.

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We spend all this money youmentioned that too we think of
it like a hobby.
We spend all this money and wesupposedly enjoy ourselves and
it helps us get along and thingslike that.
But really, when you step backfrom it and get perspective,
okay, what kind of a hobby is itthat you kind of do
subconsciously.
What kind of a hobby is it thatyou're poisoning yourself?

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And when you really think aboutthe hobby you're doing or the
activity you're doing thatyou're supposedly enjoying, it
actually makes you sad andguilty and miserable and you
wish you were free.
So yeah, it's just not whatpeople think it is, is it?

It stops being fun pretty quickly, it sure does
.
Well, I know you used to smokefor many years.
I mean, tell our audience alittle bit about your smoking
experience so they can kind ofsee if you can really relate to
them as a smoker and kind ofwhat was it like for you?

like so many smokers, I was the guy that
smoked all day and I was afactory worker most of my life.
So and you know it's smokingbreaks at work it was always
dangling out in front of my noseas my little reward.
I happen to work in maintenancemost of my life and under other
industries too, but it was likeget something done, go have a
cigarette.
Do done, go have a cigarette.
Do something else go have acigarette.
Take a break, go have acigarette.

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Have your lunch, have acigarette.
So always smoking.
You know it was the way of itand I was one of those people
that you know, every once in awhile you'll see somebody
rolling down a highway or downthe street with a cigarette
hanging out of their mouth on amotorcycle.
I was that guy, like out oftheir mouth on a motorcycle.
I was that guy.
I was such a smoker that Iwould actually smoke while I was
riding my Harley throughWisconsin here and it was never

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a problem.
It was no big deal, okay, untilit was.
Here's a quick story.
One day I'm at a stop and go,I'm like it's enough with the
cigarette and I just I didn'twant to throw the whole
cigarette away and I justknocked the Bernie part off and
thought the cigarette was out.
It's fine, no big deal, justput it in my pocket.
And then I actually got on ahighway.
So now I'm rolling along about55 miles an hour and I noticed

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that I'm feeling a little odd inmy area by my pelvic area,
right.
So what's going on here?
This is kind of an odd feeling.
I reach down, down, it's kindof warm, and then I instantly
like, well, that can only be,and I pull over and, yeah, my
pocket's on fire.
The cigarette wasn't out.
And when I got to speed I got alittle wind tunnel going, like

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you know, getting the cigarettegoing.
Okay, great, you know, justburn the pocket out of my life.
Nice leather jacket and some ofthe other joys of smoking, right
you?
You ever light the wrong end ofone of those cigarettes and
take a good puff of that?
Wow, that's always pleasant,isn't it?
That'll get you going.
Drop your cigarettes in apuddle, will ya?
Oh, great, now I got to.

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Oh, all the joys of being asmoker, you know, burning holes
in your clothes, your upholstery, it's all there for you, it's
all there for you, it's justthere, you know.
So, anyway, that's my little,my little fun story on the road
as a smoker.

Yeah, I'm glad you shared it.

I was and I'm so glad to have you, um, to be
with you, because for thosesmokers out there who have come
to the point as I did and everysmoker, it's a point I hope you
know, we all and there's so manyways to stop and I tried so

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many, and it's difficult when wego about it the wrong way, um,
and it can be even hard tobelieve that.

It can be easy, of course, but speaking of the
name of this program quitsmoking the easy way.
Okay, I have to tackle thisbecause I did a little blast on
social media this week and Ithought, you know, I'm just
going to kind of get somefeedback about, you know how
people are thinking about thistopic.
And boy did those two wordseasy way get some pushback.

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I got lots of stories fromsmokers and I would even said
this myself I've done a littleresearch on your program so I'm
a little less skeptical now thanI was.
But, um, it was extremelydifficult for me and I know many
smokers.
I don't know if you, before you, found this way.
Have you ever tried to smoke.
You know quit smoking and itwas not easy, you know.

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So there's all these different.
You know white knuckling it, Icall it easy.
You know.
So there's all these different.
You know white knuckling it, Icall it.
You know using willpower.
And you know, and I was likereally determined, I'm like okay
, and I told my friends andfamily you know, don't bring,
don't offer me a cigarette.
I'm trying to quit and I'm justmaking an effort here.
And you know, if I ask for one,just do not let me have one.
I would void smokers, trying tostay away, and I was doing all

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these things and trying toremind myself other people do it
, you know you could do it, andall my family that didn't smoke.
Of course they were cheering meon, but and then I just slipped
back in and sometimes rightaway, like sometimes I didn't
make it through the next day.
Or you know, the next week, andI, you know, went out with
friends that night and we had adrink and we're like, oh yeah,
I'll just have one, it'll be allright.
You know, the next week and I,you know, went out with friends
that night and we had a drinkand we're like, oh yeah, I'll

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just have one, it'll be allright, you know.
And then I'm right back at it.

You're exactly right, cindy.
That is the dynamic of it.
It's just, it's diabolical.
You know, when we talk aboutthe easy way, it's very easy for
a person to think, oh, come on,there's no easy way.
And think, oh, come on, there'sno easy way.
I thought that, you know, I'mskeptical.
I'm a skeptic by nature.
I really am, you know.
I just think, like, you know,come on, you know, okay, there's

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a claim Alan Carr makes and youknow, when I read the claim, I
thought it sounded too good tobe true and you might agree like
, okay, here's the claim.
Any smoker, or now vapors too,that uses method to stop smoking
, or now with alcohol, can findit easy to stop.
You can do it without usingwillpower, without having to
fight that battle that you'retalking about, cindy.

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You know that you don't have touse, like aids or gimmicks of
any kind, that you can actually,you know, not put on weight or
anything.
You know that you don't have tofeel deprived, that many of our
clients actually end upenjoying the process.

You know, hey, y'all, did you hear that what he
said?
Many of his clients actuallyenjoy the process and they're
able to quit smoking or drinkingwithout turning to other things
like you know um, you knoweating or you know binging on
sweets or whatever.
And I don't want y'all to misssomething that he said.
They do it without feelingdeprived, and that's the that's

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the key there.
What he's sharing is that wehave to change our mindset about
feeling deprived if we can't dothis anymore.
We're going to talk about thissome more later in the episode,
but I want you to start gettingyour head around that idea,
because I think that's asignificant part of the journey.
So let me get back to Wade here.

All of this sounds too good to be true, and
certainly did to me too, but thetruth is it can work like that,
and it has for millions ofpeople worldwide.
This method started in 1983.
We've been around a long, longtime and it's helped millions of
people.
And the reason it works isbecause I truly believe that it
solves the nature of the problem, which is just not what people

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think it is, cindy, and what Ithought it was.
It's all too easy to think it'svery hard to stop, isn't it?
The whole world has convincedus it's very difficult to stop,
and when we failed ourselves andbeat ourselves up about it,
with each failed attempt, wehave another attempt, and fail
again beats up our self-esteem,makes it even more difficult.
I've tried four times, fivetimes.

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I still can't right.

Well, not to mention other people that have
also tried.
When you tell them I've beentrying, it's been really
difficult, and then they tellyou again oh, I know, it was the
hardest thing I ever did.
I mean, those words have comeout of my mouth before.
So even people that have beensuccessful in stopping they're
even, you know, adding to thatmessage that it's really

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difficult.
So it's like we're getting shotin the foot before we even get
going.

Cindy, you are exactly right.
And if you think about thatdynamic and whose benefit?
Like who's?
And if you think about thatdynamic and whose benefit?
Like who benefits from thewhole notion, the whole idea,
that it's very, very difficultto stop, because I can tell you
who doesn't benefit from thatpeople who smoke and vape.
And yet this is so pervasivethat people who have never

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smoked or vaped in their livesstill believe that.
You know, they believe smokersget something from it and enjoy
it and and it's so.
So that's how powerful thebrainwashing is.
People who haven't even smokedor vaped think that smokers and
vapers are getting something.
They're not.
So why wouldn't smokers andvapers?
We have the whole world doingit.
We have all these failedattempts to stop.

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We have other people telling usthey tried the same thing and
it was miserable for them too.
Of course, it's all too easy tobelieve and not even to think
it's an opinion, to just thinkit's a fact that it has to be
difficult, that there is no easyway.
So that's understandable.
But I would say this to thosepeople and yeah, I was one of
them it turns out there'ssomething in this dynamic that,

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when we get clear, reallychanges the paradigm.
It changes the whole picture.
It's two ways of looking atsomething.
And when you look at it thisway and get a truth, that is a
different perspective.
And you go, oh wait, a minute,I'm going to turn the prism a
little bit and look at this froman Alan Carr perspective.
And how do we get the rightframe of mind?

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Well, we have to understandexactly what's happening.
And once we do get all the youknow Alan Carr calls it like the
pieces of the puzzle in place.
And there's a lot of pieces,you know.
That's why it's a book.
You have to read a book.
It's long, it's why it's aseminar that people attend.
That's about six or seven hours, five hours, because there's a

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lot to unpack.
But once it is all unpacked andyou realize, okay, I see the
nature of this addiction.
I see how nicotine withdrawalactually works.
I know what's going to happenwhen I don't put nicotine in my
body anymore.
I'm going to understand thatprocess even better, the idea
that it helped me, the idea thatit gave me something.

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You know that I needed the dealthat if something would be
missing if I stopped smoking orvaping, right when that's gone,
same with drinking when that'sgone well, then it becomes even
easier and can get to the pointwhere it's actually enjoyable,
where you just go like I'm justso glad to be free and I'm happy
, I'm delighted about it.

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Even right Now.
That may sound unbelievable,but I'm sitting here as living
proof.
I'm telling my story with asmile on my face.
Cindy, I have been free for now10 years of cigarettes and there
was a time where I thought Icouldn't go.
Well, I could go 10 minutes, Icould manage that.
But yeah, that was about it,you know.
So, yeah, I understand thatdynamic and would say that, yeah

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, well, maybe look into it a bitand hopefully overcome that
skepticism enough to at leastconsider it so, wayne, you're
saying that when you did it theeasy way, you never looked back
and never it wasn't like a big,long, ongoing struggle.

That was your experience.
You didn't like, a couple ofweeks later, go, let me just
have one.
I mean, you really, truly wereable to quit without having all
of that push and pull for weeksand months at a time.

That's exactly right.
And really that push and pullyou're referring to, cindy, is
the problem.
That's the nature of theproblem and that's what we solve
.
If you have that push and pullgoing on, well then you've got
what Alan Carr calls the tug ofwar, and it's a bad place to be
because on the one hand you wantto have a cigarette or a vape,

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you, you think you're missingout on something, but on the
other hand you know darn wellthat you that's a bad thing to
do because you're trying to stopand you've not.
So you kind of ruined it if youdid and all that sort of thing.
So that tug of war, thatdynamic of I want to but I can't
, I want to but i't, the realanswer here is get rid of the
want to.
That way you don't have tofight that tug of war.

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And getting rid of the want tois the method, and that is a
process.
And the process involvesshifting the way we see the
entire animal.
Like you can't just solve partof it, you can't go like oh, I
figured out this habit bit, it'snot just a habit, I figured
that out, but I didn't figureout that.

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Well, I guess I have anaddictive personality.
That's really the problem.
Well, I figured out theaddictive personality, but I
didn't figure out the part about.
Well, you know, when I feelnicotine withdrawal is terrible,
craving hits me and I've got tohave a cigarette.
I don't know how to deal withthat line and figure that part
out, right?
Well, if any of the many andthose are just a few examples,

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but the many pitfalls andobstacles are still in the way
smokers will find them, vaporswill find them.
I mean, we're very good atlooking for a justification,
excuse or reason, any kind of avalidation, to have the
cigarette or vape or drink whenwe are out and are not truly
free.
So, you know, occasionally youhave in the beginning, the

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craving, and we talk aboutexactly the dynamic of that,
which is not what people thinkit is.
It takes a while to explain,but it is not what people think
it is.
And then we deal with all thosedaily lives.
When people leave the seminar,we know that they've got to go
live their lives, they've got todrive that rig down the road
without smoking or vaping.
They've got to do it for real.

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So we equip them with all thetools to do it.
After all the, you know whatAlan Carr would recall the
brainwashing.
And really, you know,brainwashing, that's one way to
put it.
But we're just born into aworld that tells us all the
wrong things about theseproducts.
And how could we not believe it?
Because the products are shownthat way, and when we try the

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products ourselves, itreinforces those illusions.
Right, it just makes thoseillusions and myths even more
real.
So the brainwashing gets evenworse and before we know it
we're trapped.
But Alan Keller's method canand will spring the trap, if you
will, cindy.

So would you say that you're doing work on the
mindset about smoking?
Because when I think about likethe, the physical addiction,
like it doesn't last.
You know a year where you'reactually your body's physically
having a nicotine craving thatthat's out of your system.
But I know, even after I hadstopped smoking for a year, I

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would still want to have acigarette.
I had stopped smoking for ayear, I would still want to have
a cigarette.
So is that why you're sayinglike the majority of the work is
more of a mindset around itthan the actual physical
addiction?
Is that a good way to describeit?

That is a perfect way to describe it,
Cindy.
You are just routinely hittingthe nail with the hammer,
because that's exactly the wayto describe it.
We're changing the mindset, theframe of mind, the way we think
about it, and really that isthe problem.
Let's talk about the physicalwithdrawal and the psychological

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dependency, if you will, or theaddiction.
It's both right.
The addiction is a combinationof physical and mental.
Here's a question for you Ifyou had to put a percentage on
how much is physical, how muchis psychological, what would you
say that should be?
What percentage would you applyto each?

Well, I think when I was quitting, and even
really early on, I would havesaid it was like 95 physical.
My body is wanting this.
I'm physically reacting, my I'm, wholly, my, every part of my
being is, I'm feel stress even.
I want that stress to berelieved.
I would have said it's 95, butthe 95 physical.

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But you know, honestly, when Ithink about the fact that so
many people, even myself, I hadquit before and then I'd had a
little success and then I'd goback and it had to have been way
after the physical, you know,effects had died off and like,
and I just, I finally just saidI can't ever have one because

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I'm going to get sucked rightback into it.
You know, I just kind of madethat commitment, so again, white
knuckling it.
But I know now that I look andthink about it like I, I
sometimes will be out andsomebody was smoking out, I'll
see somebody take a big longdrag off of a cigarette and and
I even would find myselfthinking, oh, I remember that
feeling well, and even thinkingabout it, like, like it was a

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good thing, you know, like itwas like, oh, that sweet relief
from that first long drag.
And I was like, and I would findmyself fantasizing about that,
and now of course I just go.
I can't have one drag becauseI'll be right back in it.
So that was my solution.
I just thought I'm just gonnawhite knuckle it to the rest of
my days.
But that craving for thatlittle, that little moment of

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perceived pleasure, so yeah, Ican see now that it's so bit so
much of a mindset problem itreally is is You've got all that
sweet relief.

You're talking about that feeling.
You're talking about thatlittle that looks appealing,
doesn't it?
And honestly, there wasabsolutely not an iota, unless
you're hanging around a lot ofsmokers at a smoky bar or
something perhaps, but you don'thave nicotine in your body at
that point.
This 95% you know, I would havesaid a little differently,
probably like 50-50 or something, right, and 95% physical is

(27:05):
certainly a great way.
I can tell you why that happenstoo, is that when we're
withdrawing from nicotine it canseal.
Okay, let's get into the weedsa little bit about how this
process works.
I talked about the addiction hastwo parts, right.
We've got the physicaladdiction to nicotine, which
Alan Carr uses a wonderfulanalogy, called the little

(27:28):
nicotine monster, and he wantsus to kind of externalize the
feeling as being like the pangsof a little tapeworm parasite
inside of you that feeds onnicotine for survival and that's
all it can live on, right?
So that's the physical feeling,which turns out to be like one
or 2% of the problem, really,cindy, because physical

(27:50):
withdrawal from nicotine is notpainful, it's an empty feeling.
I mean, don't get me wrong,it's not pleasant, it's not like
oh, this feels good.
I'm never going to say thatabout nicotine withdrawal, but
what I will say about it is it'snot like it hurts, it's not
like physically painful.
I mean, if it were it wouldwake people up at night.
I mean, if it were it would bea different animal, because

(28:15):
nicotine is such a quick actingdrug.
It's so fast the noticeablephysical withdrawal pangs from
nicotine, the drug itself,disappear for most clients,
almost everybody, about three tofive days, that's it.
And it takes three weeks for allof the nicotine to process out

(28:36):
of your body.
But most people only feel itfor five days.
That's about it, and for somepeople it's like three days.
You know.
So it's really.
You know, and it's odd to metoo, that it doesn't matter if
you smoke or vape a lot.
Or smoke or vape, you know, alittle, fairly casually or
lightly, as we say.
Either way, it takes about fivedays you feel it, and three
weeks it's out of your body.

(28:56):
But the psychological desire forit, if you have the mental
elevation of wanting it but nothaving it, well, that's like an
itch, that's like a drippingfaucet, that's like.
All you need is one weak moment, one inebriated moment, one
moment where you think I'll beokay.
You do have that puff that youwere smart enough not to have,

(29:17):
cindy.
And what happens then?
Well, now you've created a newlittle monster inside of you
which is going to demand another, and you might not have it
right away.
Most people don't.
They think, well, I got awayhaving that cigarette and I
didn't get hooked, so they letsome time go by.
They think I got away with it,I'm fine, so I can safely have

(29:38):
another, forgetting entirelythat that was the same exact
dynamic that got them hooked inthe first place.
That's how everybody getshooked, isn't that crazy?

Wow, I hate that .

It's madness, isn't it the whole thing?
It is.
But really Alan Carr has solvedthe problem.
I certainly believe so and Ican tell you this.
I feel nothing but just joy ofhaving solved this problem that
I suffered and helping otherpeople out of the trap.
I can't tell you how satisfyingit is to see somebody get the,
when the little light bulb comeson, when they get the method

(30:14):
and it gels for them and theyleave the meeting.
Or even if it's a support callor something, some people do
need a little extra help.
We're here for people, but inany case, when they do realize
that they've given up nothing,and from that point forward
really we can.
Anyway, I go on and on, butit's a very satisfying feeling

(30:36):
and I still can't get over thejoy.
To be honest, I was, like manysmokers.
I thought I'd never be free.
I certainly didn't think therewas an easy way either.

And how long did you smoke?
How many years were you asmoker?

You said oh, good grief.
I started when I was 14 yearsold, 15.
And I smoked for 34 years.
Oh wow.
And how many times did I stopduring that process?
Not too many, you know.
There were interludes, andevery time I stopped I'd end up
being deprived and miserable.
I'd put on weight.
Or one time I stopped becauseof Navy.

(31:13):
I joined the Navy.
I thought, well, I better getin shape for boot camp.
You know, I better be anon-smoker when I go to boot
camp.
So before I went off to SanDiego I stopped smoking and that
lasted almost like a month anda half.
And, of course, the first thingeverybody was doing in Navy
boot camp back then I imagineit's changed a bit, but was
smoking.

(31:33):
So right away I'm smoking withthe guys in boot camp.
So, oh, that was wasted effort.
And then, of course, as theyears went by how many years?
Right, I had a cigarette in myhand, in my mouth, in my pocket,
all my life.
I mean, it was part of who Iwas, it was my identity, it was
like hanging out of my mouth.
It was.

(31:58):
If I didn't have it in my mouth, it was just.
You know, I wasn't as bad asAlan Carr.
I don't know how anybody smokes80 to 100 a day, four to five
packs of cigarettes Alan Carrgot up to, and I was terrible at
two and a half packs a day, andI do know how it happens, I
certainly do.
But yeah, can you imagine, attwo and a half packs a day?
I mean that's 50 cigarettes aday, bearing in mind that we're
sleeping, for, you know, sevenor eight hours, right.
So sleeping for you know, sevenor eight hours, right.

(32:19):
So yeah, it's pretty crazy.
And um, and there were times,if I was partying, you know,
back when I drank too, whichAlan Carr also set me free from,
um, but I would smoke more.
That's when I burned throughthree packs of cigarettes or
more and wake up with like athroat felt like somebody rubbed
it with sandpaper and my mouthtasted like a septic.
I mean, honestly, I rememberthose days, cindy, of just, you

(32:44):
know, going out, smoking,drinking, waking up and feeling,
oh my God.
And I can't tell you how niceit is to never have that anymore
of course, right, right.

Well, tell me about this.
You mentioned vaping.
I know many people think thatthat's an alternative, you know,
and a better choice, which Ithink studies are coming out now
to disbunk that for sure.
But and many people have saidthat that was a good way to
transition from smokingcigarettes to going to vaping.

(33:16):
What would you say to thepeople that have that mindset
that they've stopped smokingcigarettes and now they're
vaping as a more healthy choice?
Did you have any words ofwisdom to speak to that?

Absolutely, and you know this.
Vaping has been around a whilenow and that's the thing there
were no long-term studies.
How can you have health effectsstudies on a problem that's
novel and new you can't like?
Well, five years later, thishappens.
10 years later, this happens 15years after vaping people have

(33:51):
well, it's been around for twoyears.
How are you supposed toactually measure that?
So it's a legal product thathit the market before there was
long-term tests, because therereally couldn't be.
And now there are.
It's been around long enoughand, yes, the results are in.
The jury has come back andguilty.
Yes, very negative healtheffects from vaping and Alan

(34:12):
Carr's EasyWay.
We knew that going in.
There's an aspect about vapingthat is just commonsensical.
The notion of breathinganything into our lungs that's
not natural in the environmentwe should be breathing is not
good.
But let's just talk about thenature of what nicotine is.

(34:32):
Whether you get it by acombustible cigarette or a vape,
it's an insecticide.
Nicotine is literally a bugpoison and it's used as such on
an industrial scale.
Nicotine is a part of a programto kill insects globally.
We don't talk about it likethat, but we're addicted to a

(34:52):
bug poison, so how we get itinto our bodies, whether we vape
it or smoke it or chew it orput the patches on it or
whatever.
It is right.
That's a bug poison and it's aneurotoxin.
Vaping it's done by taking awater-soluble oil and
superheating it with a lithiumbattery and then breathing those

(35:14):
fumes not really fumes, butvapors, yeah into our lungs.
Well, there's things thathappen when we superheat
water-soluble oils that turn outto be not so good for us either
.
Vipers also know that you endup having like this oily film
that develops on things and itbecomes kind of, in its own way,

(35:37):
nasty, if that makes sense,cindy.
So I hope that clears that up abit.
And zipping it's even moreinsidious in the way that
smoking I mean.
Can you imagine this, cindy,when you and I were smokers,
cigarette smokers?
It would be like having a litcigarette in your pocket all the
time that you can just pull outyour pocket and puff on and put

(35:57):
back in your pocket.
Only the cigarette didn't burnor smell bad and you could do it
anywhere.
That's really insidious, isn'tit?

Yeah, I could really understand why people get
so hooked on that and have ahard time with that, because
it's having that such access,easy access.
Because that was a little bitof a thing to slow me down, like
maybe at work.
You know I couldn't go out andhave a smoke break and you know
I couldn't leave my office jobor my sales job and go out and

(36:26):
smoke, but now you could justhave a, have a little tote there
anytime you want it's a truething and I would, depending on
the nature of people'semployment.

You know, if you're allowed to vape in the
office, chain vaping is a thing,and in ellen car's day, chain
smoking at work was a thing forpeople to interesting too, that
people that like artistic typesor they work with their brains,
they're very intellectual, theycan often be like, if they're
able to smoke or vape whilethey're working or being

(37:00):
artistic, very easily slip intochain smoking and they chain
vaping.
You know, you just findyourself using it as the regular
creative juices of your processor something.
And, oh my God, right, and thathappened to Alan Carr.
He was a salesman Uh, I'm sorry, an accountant, but anyway.
So he's an accountant and youwould be on the phone a lot and

(37:20):
he always was smoking all day atwork.
And how else do you smoke fourto five packs a day, right?
So he was smoking all day inthe office when it was a thing.
But you're exactly right.

That's how it works.
Did y'all catch that?
He said Alan Carr he's theauthor of this method Quit
Smoking the Easy Way.
He smoked four to five packs ofcigarettes a day and he quit
using this technique that he'steaching us and that Wayne is
sharing with us.
So I'm pretty sure if it couldwork for him, it could work for

(37:55):
you.
And then also, wayne sharedthat millions of people have now
quit smoking and drinking usingthese methods.
So there's definitely lifeapplication for us in that and
we could like.
It's not a brand new thing, youknow, so that's encouraging as
well, and I'm actually kind ofsurprised that more people don't
know about this.
That's why I wanted to bringhim on the show, because it's

(38:18):
pretty incredible, right?
I wanted to bring him on theshow because it's pretty
incredible, right?
Well, before we wrap up, wayne,I want to give you an
opportunity to speak to those.
You know there's drivers outthere and many people listening,
and friends and family thatwill be.
You know, our audience willshare it with people that have
tried so many times to quitsmoking and they seem to either

(38:39):
just have a short season ofsuccess and then go right back
to it, or they never really haveany success and just have lost
hope that they're ever going tobe able to break this habit.
Could you just speak to thatperson that's tried so many
times and maybe give them a wordof encouragement about some
next steps?

(39:00):
I know you mentioned thatthere's a book and seminars and
maybe just give some newperspective, a way to approach
this idea.

Of course, cindy, and there are people out
there in exactly the positionyou're talking about desperate
to stop.
I've tried everything.
Some people even just give up.
I remember giving up andthinking, oh, I'm just going to
be stuck forever.
You know terrible place to be.
So to anyone that's feeling thatway, listen, I've been there,

(39:33):
and so was Alan Carr, and it'smiserable, and it may even be
hard to dream that you can findyour freedom, but the real
freedom is being able to notfeel deprived when you're not
doing it right.
That's the mystery, that's thebig secret, that's the method,

(39:54):
and if we don't feel deprived,then we can.
When we say the easy way, thatis the meaning of it, it means
we're not missing out, we're'rejust like.
That's when it becomes easy.
How do we get to that point,though?
One way, and one way only tosee the truth, and the truth is
that we don't actually getanything from it.

(40:16):
I'm going to make a profoundstatement that might help the
person that's struggling thatway, just open their mind to the
idea that this could be true,like okay, think about this
simple concept.
That isn't so simple when youreally think about it.
People that smoke cigarettes,people that vape, they end up
doing it just to feel likepeople who don't smoke

(40:39):
cigarettes or don't vape.
That sounds crazy, but let metell you how it works.
People who don't vape, peoplewho don't have cigarettes right,
they don't have nicotine intheir body, they're not smoking
or vaping.
People who do obviously do.
When people who smoke or vapehave their cigarette, have that
vape, they partially andtemporarily relieve the nicotine

(41:01):
withdrawal.
Therefore, they come much, muchcloser to feeling like a person
who doesn't suffer nicotinewithdrawal, like a person who
doesn't smoke or vape at all.
So if we think of it that way,we're just getting closer to
normal, getting closer to beingwhat we're all meant to be,

(41:22):
getting closer to being whatwe're all meant to be people who
don't smoke or vape.
That's the method when werealize, when we stop, we'll
just be returning to normal andit never did anything for us to
ever get us above normal.
It always took us down, not up,and Alan's method can make us
truly see it that way, becauseit is that way.

(41:43):
And once we believe it, thenagain you know, that's when it
becomes easy, cindy.
Even though that sounds crazy,it is easy then and I think you
would agree that, yeah, if youbelieve what I've just said and
agree that you did remove thoseproblems?
Wouldn't it be easy?

You know, you said something and it made me
think of.
I was in a 12 step meeting andI've heard this statement from
people who are trying to stopdrinking.
I've heard this so many timesand they're sharing.
They go.
I just wish I could drink likenormal people.
You know that, don't get intotrouble.
And it really is that feelingdeprived, that's, that's what
that is right, like I'm going tobe deprived of.

(42:23):
Oh wow, this is so good.
That's the problem.

That is the problem, it's the want to and
listen.
The want to is totallyunderstandable.
The world has told us it'swonderful, everybody's doing it
around us, the advertising, it'sbeen, all the movies, it's just
again.
It is a want to and, in a way,how can we not want to in the
world we live in?

(42:47):
Huh, you know.

Yeah, I know, I think about so many, so many,
every like movies, even like, atthe end of the bad day, a
sitcom.
You know what are they going todo?
I'm going to go have a glass ofwine.
I'm like we've been likebrainwashed to think that's life
solutions to our problems.
That is the way of it, yes, itis.

You know, sometimes in my seminars, if it
comes up, I actually talk aboutthe role of Hollywood and the
tobacco industry, how it wasglamorized in the golden age of
Hollywood.
You know, cigarette smoking isnot this age-old problem.
We get into that, the actualhistory of it, a bit too.
I think it's helpful to knowsome of that as well, but not
really part of the method somuch, but you know, just helpful

(43:27):
.

Okay, wayne, let me ask you this so somebody's
convinced that they want to giveit a try.
What resources are available?
You know most drivers are mostof my audience are over-the road
drivers, so they do long hauland, um, I know that you're in
Wisconsin, is that right?
Wisconsin?

That's right.
We've seen Wisconsin on theI-94 corridor between Milwaukee
and Chicago.
So absolutely let's talk toeverybody out there that wants
to look into us right and see ifthey want to take advantage of
us.
There's so many ways to getAlan's method that you know,
really starting at alancarcom.
That's the headquarters inLondon and I would say if you

(44:07):
really want to cut to the chaseand see what we do at seminars
and such, it's usaalancarcom.
There's a phone number for that.
It's 855-440-3777.
You can learn all about theseminars there.
There's a video program as wellthat we do.

(44:29):
Seminars are conducted onlinevia Zoom.
Anybody that has that platform,I would say for truckers,
anybody that wanted to do theaudio book while you're driving,
that's an option that's veryinexpensive and very effective
as well.
So really there's a smorgasbordof ways to get Allen Cars' easy
way method.
A little research or call thenumber and we'll be glad to

(44:51):
direct you.

Well, that's wonderful information and I know
some drivers may be willingeven to travel, especially those
of you who are drivers.
They can sometimes pick theirlocation where they want to take
a break.
If someone was interested indoing the seminar, what's the
kind of time frame for that?
How long is that like?
What's the time investment togo through the program in a
seminar version?

Well, I'm so glad you asked that because, now
that I think of it, that's afactor that drivers have to
definitely factor in.
It's not like you're doing thisfrom home, right?
So our seminars to stop smokingand drinking six hours and I
think really a lot seven hoursjust because and for alcohol I'd
say it's more like six and ahalf, right.
So I would arrive six and ahalf to seven hours, arrive a

(45:37):
little early, uh, plan on, youknow, make sure the zoom
connection and everything works,and uh, if you're in personal
early, it's always good just tomake sure we're there.
And then, you know, reallythat's a an investment in time,
isn't it?
I would say to people that areconsidering that um, just, you
know the practicalities, you cancontinue smoking or vaping
during the seminars.
You know, if you haven'tstopped before, don't bother,

(45:59):
just show up doing it, we'llsort that out and you'll leave
not smoking or vaping.
Drinking is, of course,different, you know, but at
usaallancarcom you can learn allthe dates, locations of the
in-person sessions.
We do, we do alcohol in Chicago, we do nicotine in all kinds of
cities across America andCanada as well, and that's on

(46:21):
the website.

Well, thank you so much for this information.
Even having quit smoking manyyears ago, I feel like you've
given me a lot of insight aboutthe struggle and even kind of
debunking that.
You know, that littleromanticizing of the good old
days when I used to be able tohave a cigarette, and so I think

(46:44):
it's so funny, oh my gosh.
Anyway, I'm so encouraged bythis messaging and I'm so glad,
Cindy.

And honestly, it is a crazy world.
Thank you so much for sayingthat.
I'm glad to have been lookingback at our smoking lives.
Do yourself a favor and neverhave that illusionary look.
Just look at it back, at it asit really was, and you'll never
miss it OK.

I know I always think I have that little moment
where I might romanticize it.
But then I also see this personstanding out in the rain,
literally in the rain with anumbrella and it's freezing cold,
and I'm like I also rememberthose moments and one doesn't
come without the other.

You can't have just the one in the sunshine by
the cafe with the coffee.
You know a bad one is there,but the one in the rain doesn't
happen.
Oh no, you're signing up forboth.
And it was funny too is likeyou know.
I could go on and on and letyou go, but when I got free,
like now when I watch peoplesmoke, it doesn't look appealing

(47:50):
anymore.
It took a while, you know, butit really does.
Like you just now, I look at iteven as an L car person.
I'm like you know.
It looks kind of odd to me in away.

Yeah, yeah, that's good.
Well, thank you so much forthis information, and I'm really
excited for our audience to getto hear this information, and I
know I had I think I told youthat I had so many drivers that
were like when is it?
When is it going to air, causeI have to watch this.
I have to watch this, I have tolisten to this messaging,
because I've tried so manythings, and so I just want to

(48:20):
say thank you for all of thosethat are going to hear the
message, and I think you'vegiven us a fresh infusion of
hope to try one more time.
Give it, keep your heart andmind open to trying something
else, and that you don't have tostay trapped forever, and there
really is a easier way thanwhat we've done, and I'm so
grateful to be able to sharethis with others.

(48:40):
So, thank you for your work andI'm so grateful that our paths
have crossed.

Cindy, we're going around.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's been an absolute joy.
Take care, and if you ever needme, of course I'm here for you
as well.

Thank you.

Malory Lovecraft (48:58):
Hi, I'm Mallory.
I am a truck driver.
I do what's called drive away,which basically means that I
deliver semi trucks and othertypes of trucks by driving them
to their destinations.
Like any other truck drivingjob, it's pretty stressful, full
of danger and all kinds ofsurprises.
Now I smoked for 25 years and Iquit smoking.

(49:22):
It was at least eight years agoit seems more like 10, but I'm
going to say with convictionthat it was at least eight years
ago.
Now I wasn't a truck driver.
Back then.
I was my mother's solecaregiver.
She had Alzheimer's.
I'm going to tell you, truckdriving is a cakewalk by
comparison.
I have never experienced morestress, anxiety, sleep

(49:44):
deprivation, loneliness,depression and grief as I did
when my mother had Alzheimer's.
But I quit smoking right in themiddle of that, even though
that was my little pacifier.
That was the thing that I clungto for any kind of comfort.
But I quit it, you know, and Iused Alan Carr's easy way method

(50:05):
to do it.
Now, what caused me to quit isone day I just realized, after
seeing how much I was spendingon cigarettes and how bad I
would fiend for them when Icouldn't afford to buy them
right away, that I was a slaveto them.
I mean, it's literally a typeof slavery, and that really made
me mad.
But I'd already tried everymethod I could find to quit.

(50:29):
It only ended in failure oractually becoming addicted to
the replacement, which for mewas vaping, or e-cigarettes as
they were called then.
It was a dead battery that sentme back to tobacco cigarettes.
But anyway, I was justexasperated and I prayed that

(50:50):
the Lord would help me to quit.
I then turned on my PC and wenton the internet and within two
minutes of opening a browserwindow I then turned on my PC
and went on the Internet andwithin two minutes of opening a
browser window, there it wasAlan Carr's Easy Way to Quit
Smoking.
There was video, testimonialsand everything on YouTube.
I immediately ordered the book,but I couldn't make the book
work for me.
My imagination just isn't goodenough.

(51:11):
Most people's imagination isbetter than mine.
I'm just kind of adult when itcomes to being creative or being
very imaginative.
But I got on the internet and Iimmediately found a video that
was made for the Alan Carr easyway to quit smoking method.
Now I've since looked for thevideo and I can't find it

(51:33):
anymore, except one place on theinternet for anybody who wants
to find it.
It's not the five hour videofor the program, which I'm sure
that's really good.
I'm just gonna tell you.
The one that I used was like anhour and six minutes long, and
I did manage to find it again onvimeo, v-i-m-e-o.
But whatever method you use,I'm sure you'll get great

(51:54):
success out of it.
Anyway, that video that I useabsolute gold to give myself the
best chance for success.
What I did was I picked a day towatch the video where I knew I
wouldn't have any visitors, Iwouldn't need to run any errands
, nothing like that.

(52:15):
I turned off my phone.
Errands, nothing like that.
Okay, I turned off my phone.
I made sure I had, you know, Imade sure that I had a few
cigarettes with me, because thevideo is going to tell you when
to take smoke breaks, includingthat very last one.
I also put a do not disturbsign on the door.
I was very, very adamant thatthis thing was going to work or

(52:36):
nothing would.
So I paid careful attention toall of the content in the video
and I took all the smoke breaksit told me to, including that
very last one.
Now, from that moment on, Iused every mental exercise,
visualization and coping toolthat the video gave me and, as a
precaution, I avoided allpeople that I didn't need to be

(52:57):
around for the next few days.
After that I avoided smokerswhen I could for the next month
or so.
Sometimes I couldn't avoid themand that was okay because I
used all the mental tools thatthe video gave me and I avoided
smoking.
I didn't smoke.
Okay, I never let my guard downand, like I said, I didn't mess

(53:21):
up, I didn't smoke.
So from that last cigarettebreak in the video, I've never
had another puff off a cigarette, not another tobacco or
nicotine product or replacement,ever again.
And I cannot believe how easy itwas.
It was impossible for me toimagine anything being that easy
.
Okay, it's been more than eightyears now.

(53:43):
The first entire three days ofbeing smoke-free, I just smiled.
I wasn't going crazy, I wasn'tcraving a cigarette or a
replacement, I was just at peacewith not smoking.
And again, something that I wasnot able to imagine, that's
what was happening.
You know, after about a week ofnot smoking, I was feeling

(54:05):
somewhat better, physically andmentally, and oddly, I also felt
like I had just stepped out ofa shower all clean.
I mean, I guess all that smokeand tar just clings to you and
makes you feel kind of dirty.
But anyway, it's been more thaneight years that I've been
smoke-free and it's really beeneasy the entire time.

(54:27):
I've never smoked in that timeand I'll never smoke again.
I really believe that anyone canquit smoking with this program.
I really believe that anyonecan quit smoking with this
program.
You just got to make sure thatnothing at all is going to
disturb you while you're usingthe book or the video.
Whatever you use, you got tomake sure that you have some

(54:48):
cigarettes for the smoke breaksthat it tells you to take and
you got to pay very closeattention to the content.
You know you got to do exactlywhat the video tells you to do
all the time to avoid smokingagain.
And it'll work for you.
It worked for me.
I could not believe how easy itwas to end a 25 year addiction

(55:13):
and if I can do it, I know verywell that that anybody else on
this earth.
If you can hear, if you can atleast hear the video, you don't
even have to watch it.
If you can at least hear it,you can quit using Alan Carr's
easy way method.
If I can, you can.
I know you can, but that's beenmy experience with it.

Ron Jones (55:44):
Hello, my name is ron jones.
I uh live on the west coast ofcanada, vancouver island.
I haul mail for a contractorfor canada post.
I uh previously came out ofretirement to do that.
I worked for canada post for 15years uh, hauling mail uh to
mail sheds and pure later andstuff like that in town delivery
.
But uh, now I haul uh north onvancouver island from the naimo

(56:07):
to courtney campbell river andto the west coast of the island,
port alberni, every night about517 kilometers a night.
It's a day job.
I'm'm home every night.
It's nice to be able to do that.
I can relate to what all youother guys do.
I just want to tell you my storyabout Alan Carr's book.

(56:27):
I picked that book up about Idon't know 2004.
I'd smoked all my life fromabout the age of 13.
Decided to quit smoking when westarted a family and the first
time we quit using a drug calledJampix to the doctor and I

(56:49):
wouldn't recommend anybody usingthat.
It kind of does a psychologicalweird stuff to you.
You're laughing at things thataren't funny and people are
looking at you weird, so youdon't want to go through that.
Anyway, we quit for about nineyears and then I started smoking

(57:10):
again because I'm kind of goingthrough a bad marriage
breakdown and uh smoked again.
For since then I've beensmoking cigars and uh drive was
driving.
I really I decided I need toquit because I'm smoking too
much behind the wheel there'sjust more than I would if I was

(57:32):
at home and uh.
So I knew I had quit using AlanCarr's book once before and it
works If you follow the processand do everything step by step,
as that book says.
It's amazing.
I don't know how, but it worksand it just works on your psyche

(57:55):
.
It's a psychological thing.
I don't think he kind ofexplains it.
It's more a psychological thingthan an addiction and I believe
that.
Anyway, I'm ready to quit againafter picking up smoking for a
few years again.
And I dug this book out of thedrawer and dusted it off and I'm
going to read it again becauseI know it works.

(58:16):
And I've actually tried to giveit to a friend and the guy told
me he didn't want the bookbecause he believed it would
work.
So there you go and I fullybelieve it's going to work for
me again and I have many reasonsto stop smoking.
Anyway, I hope you guys pick itup if you need to do this in

(58:39):
your life, and I'm sure it'llwork for you too.

Pam Morovits (58:46):
Well, hi, my name is Pam and I'm a truck driver.
I drive a fuel transport and Ihaul fuel locally, so I'm one of
the fortunate ones I make ithome every night.
But my quit smoking story is aGod story.
I have been had been a smokerfor about 30 years.

(59:11):
I started smoking when I was ateenager because, well, it was
cool and I smoked up until aboutmy mid-40s and I had gone on a
wellness kick and I was eatingorganic food and taking organic
supplements and getting allhealthy, but I was still smoking

(59:34):
.
And the place that I worked hada quit smoking campaign and they
hung a poster on the wall andit listed all of the chemical
poisons and toxins that were incigarettes.
And that's what really got methinking about quitting smoking.
Was I'm doing all these thingsto be healthy and well, and then

(59:57):
I smoked cigarettes and it kindof was ruining my good efforts.
So I decided that I knew it wasGod's will for me to quit
smoking.
So I decided I would just prayabout it and, you know, talk
with him every day about it andlet him take care of it.
So I did pray, honestly, and Itold him.

(01:00:19):
I said, god, I know you want meto quit, but you know that I
really like to smoke.
So you, I would like you tomake it so undesirable that I
just don't want to do it anymore.
And I prayed for I don't know,probably a couple of months
anyways, and I picked a day toquit.
I picked Thanksgiving daybecause I had a four day weekend

(01:00:42):
and I figured that would giveme time to get through my
cravings and my withdrawals and,you know, go back to work, a
fairly normal person.
So Thanksgiving came and I putthe cigarettes down and went
through Thanksgiving day.
I had some craft projects to doto stay busy, and at the end of

(01:01:07):
the day I realized I hadn'teven I didn't have a cigarette
and I hadn't even fought acraving, never even wanted to
have one.
And so I knew that that was Godworking divinely in my life and
making it undesirable for me.
So I, after I thought about it,I realized it was more a mental

(01:01:32):
addiction for me than it was aphysical addiction, because I
didn't go through any kind ofwithdrawals or cravings or
anything like that.
So I am very thankful to Godfor taking that away.
When I laid it down for him,this was 19 years ago It'll be

(01:01:53):
19 years this Thanksgiving andone of the first benefits I
noticed was, with not smoking, Igot my lung capacity back.
I could take a brisk walk and Iwasn't huffing and puffing, and
it just got better and better.
I am a healthy 63 year oldwoman and I'm very grateful to

(01:02:17):
God that I was able to give itup and never, never, have to
fight the addiction.
So I guess nothing in the worldis difficult.
Once you set your mind to it.
You have to want to quit it,because I tried to quit a lot of
times and failed miserably.
But I didn't really want toquit, so I was just making it

(01:02:39):
hard on myself.
But if my, I guess my words ofadvice to somebody would be if
you try to quit and you fail,don't beat yourself up for it.
We all fail at times.
None of us are perfect.
Just forgive yourself and tryagain the next day and trust in

(01:03:00):
god to help you through it heythere, this is dino, your rodeo
guide on the side.

Dino Grigoriadis (01:03:09):
What a wonderful episode we've had
today with wayne spauldingsharing the allen cars easy way
method to quit smoking anddrinking.
Let me break down some keytakeaways for you.
First, quitting doesn't have tobe a white knuckled battle of
power, like it was for cindy andso many others.
Alan carr's easy way methodfocuses on changing your mindset

(01:03:29):
about smoking and drinkingrather than fighting the
cravings.
The big revelation smokers,vapors and drinkers aren't
getting anything positive fromthese behaviors.
They're just temporarilyrelieving the withdrawal to feel
the way non-smokers andnon-drinkers feel every day.
Second, are you feeling a bitdeprived when you quit?

(01:03:50):
That's the real problem totackle.
Once you truly understandyou're not giving up anything
worthwhile, quitting becomes somuch easier.
Millions have quit using theeasy way method without turning
to other compulsive behaviors.
If Alan Carr was smoking four tofive packs a day and says he
found an easy way to quitwithout being miserable, then

(01:04:11):
this is worth consideration.
We have all been brainwashed tothink it will be hard.
Why not check it out?
If you have struggled, if youknow someone struggling with
smoking, vaping or drinking,please share this episode with
them.
Wayne mentioned several ways toaccess the Alan Carr method
from audiobooks perfect fordrivers to online seminars via

(01:04:33):
Zoom.
You can find more informationat usallancarrcom.
That's U-S-A-L-A-N-C-A-R-Rcom,or you can simply call
855-440-3777.
Thanks for tagging along todayon today's journey.

(01:04:53):
If you found this contenthelpful, please leave us a
review.
It helps more great driversfind our show and join the
Enjoying Life OTR movement.
Until next time, keep thosewheels turning and stay safe out
there.

"Victory" (01:05:09):
Shouts us through the night.
Each mile we pass a story totell Healthy and living and
doing it well.
Victory's won.
We're pushing through, findingstrength in all we do On our own

(01:05:33):
.
We're standing tall, enjoyinglife on TR, through it all,
through it all, through it all,through being a heart's
resilience and you Sharing ourvictory shining through,

(01:05:56):
enjoying the proteome.
This is for you.
Victory's won.
We're pushing through, findingstrength in all we do On the

(01:06:18):
road.
We're standing tall, enjoyinglife all day long, through it
all, through it all, yeah,through it all, holding our
hearts resilience in view.
Set our victory shining through.

(01:06:42):
This is for you.

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