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September 23, 2025 55 mins

In this conversation, Robby speaks with Natalie Runion, author of 'I Don't Even Like Women,' about the complexities of women's relationships within the church and with each other. Natalie does NOT hold back and calls on women to step up and take ownership of their choices and responses. They explore themes of competition, trauma, and the need for sacred sisterhood, emphasizing the importance of creating safe spaces for women to connect and grow. Natalie shares her personal journey and insights on how women can empower each other and navigate the challenges they face in ministry and beyond.


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