December 16, 2024 • 58 mins
Join us for an electrifying conversation with Mason Mecartea, the actor and filmmaker who's left his mark on projects like "Terrifier 3," "Stranger Things," and "Smashing Pumpkins." Mason takes us on a journey from his roots in Hendersonville, Tennessee, to the bustling sets of major productions. He recounts the thrilling yet humbling experience of his first Marvel role and the surreal moments spent on set, even if his line was ultimately cut. Plus, Mitch shares his own Marvel memories, including a chance encounter with Anthony Mackie on "Falcon and the Winter Soldier."
Discover how Mason's passion for storytelling led him from acting in country music videos to directing and producing. His collaboration with childhood friend Ryman opened doors to music video directing, and he humorously shares his "where's Waldo" moments in various productions. Listen in as Mason recounts a hilarious costume switch up on the "Ms. Marvel" set and hints at upcoming projects inspired by his experiences on these large-scale productions.
Our episode wraps up with a heartfelt exchange about the magic of film and theater. Mason explores with us the nostalgic allure of indie theaters showing 35mm prints and the technical artistry of shooting on film. We share insights into Mason’s own projects like "Smashing Pumpkins" and "Axe to Grind," spotlighting the classic horror influences that shape his creative visions. From restoring vintage cars to navigating challenging scenes with intimacy coordinators, this episode is a treasure trove for film enthusiasts, actors, and anyone passionate about the art of storytelling.
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hello and welcome to entertain this.
It's a podcast about movies, tvshows and video games.
I don't know why we feelobligated to say it that way.
I'm Tom With me, I have Mitchand my name is Hayden.
That's right, we still don'thave our co-host Hayden.
He's still galvanizing aroundTexas.
Now he's slowly making his wayaround the globe back to my
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apartment to drink all my Pepsisand put his nasty feet on the
coffee table.
But we're not here to talkabout that.
We have a guest and a specialtreat for you, listening
wherever you may be.
We got Mason McCarty.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
What's going on, guys ?
How you?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
doing, doing good.
Mason, how have you been?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Oh man, just soaking in the holiday season, taking it
easy, that's about it.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So for those of you who don't know who Mason McCarty
is, he's an actor, filmmaker.
You can catch him in Terrifier3.
You can catch him in StrangerThings.
I think people have heard ofthat Stranger Things show.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, it's a little underground, but it's pretty
cool.
I recommend it to a lot ofpeople.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And I'm going to say you've also got your short films
of the Smashing Pumpkins Actsto Grind.
I saw that you were in MsMarvel for a scene as well.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, that's a fun story, but, yeah, yeah, I love
that stuff.
Um, miss, you know what I willsay.
Miss marvel was, um, that wasone of my first like legit
bookings, because I had grown upin hendersonville, tennessee,
and I wanted to pursue acting.
I wanted to get out of here and, uh, I really fell in love with
directing and producing.
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So I was working on my own stuff, I was doing whatever I was
doing a lot of commercials herein town but, then one day I got
the call from my agent that Ibooked the one-liner, the
one-liner in Ms Marvel, and Iwas like no way, are you kidding
?
I was so excited and I'd neverreally been to Atlanta before
and it was shooting for a weekbecause it was like um, it was
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just like, uh, like to get intoit.
So I don't know if you guyswatch this marvel, but there's a
big comic con sequence but it'savengers avengers con in the
first episode.
So, and um, of course you knowyou're gonna have to pay extras
more if you let them talk orhave a line, so they're going to
pay three people that can beyour talking extras.
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So it's like they're gettingpaid more than extras.
Uh, so they're pretty much dayplayers, but they're going to be
in the extras crowd, butwhenever you need them you pull
them out and they they say theline.
You know what I mean?
And um, anyways, I was one ofthose people but I got to be at
Trillis Studios for a week and Imean, on, that set was
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incredible and it was such aeye-opening experience for me.
It was just like I felt throwninto, like oh, this is what a
big set looks like for the firsttime.
And of course, I was a Marvelfan.
But it was funny because itcame down to the last day where
I was supposed to say my lineand they just cut it.
So I was like, okay, buthonestly I wasn't that upset at
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all.
I just kind of had the bestweek ever and it was such a
taste of like what I want tocontinue pursuing.
I want to get back to this.
You know what I mean.
So it was an incredibleexperience.
But you can see me in the crowd, but yeah, what was your line?
oh, my line was totally like areyou okay?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
like it was that it was just like I got like three
words yeah, pointless.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Um, I don't blame him for cutting it I think that
we've.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I don't know, Tom, if you did, but I've worked on one
of the Marvel films.
As far as doing security, weworked on the Winter Soldier and
Falcon and one of their scenesthey were filming they were
having to break out of jail andall that stuff.
So we got to work a little bitof security for that.
That was kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I only did security for one, and that was what was
that show, deputy?
I think it was on fox orsomething, or fx.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I did that, oh yeah, I worked a little bit of that
one, but yeah, I got to.
You know stand, I was standingnext to anthony mackie and
talked to him for like a coupleminutes before, like in between
scenes.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
That was kind of cool you never told me that, and
we've been friends for years.
Well, you never mentioned that.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I only saw him for like maybe five minutes before
he went and filmed his thing,because where I was standing in
the hallway that was where hislike, I guess pre-makeup artist
or makeup person was before hewent on.
Yeah, but we've done a coupleof smaller things like that, but
that's our extent of our I meanour.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
The real person who should be here for these
interviews is Hayden, because heactually has a degree in film.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, he's made some short films and things like that
.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
That's sweet, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So how long were you really in the acting business or
filmmaking business beforethey're like, hey, you're going
to be in a Marvel show?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh, that's a good question.
You know, I I was uh not reallydoing much at all before that.
I I was here in Tennessee and Iuh fortunately had gotten an
agent in high school and, um,and she's just been lovely and
uh, she's this little boutiqueagency here in the southeast but
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she is incredible and uh, and II don't know what she saw on me
because I was very uh oddwhenever I was younger.
I just was finding I, I just Ididn't know what I was doing at
all, but uh, she took a shot onme and um, anyway, so she was
keeping me busy here with musicvideos.
You know, n's got so manyvideos.
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Uh, I, I joke with my friendsthere's like some sort of
there's got to be some sort oflike Mason McCarty music video
universe, because I'm in so manyfreaking country music videos
here and it's so funny to see mepop up like where's Waldo on
some of these things, and I mean, honestly, I've met so many
great people doing this.
But uh, I saw, sorry oh, whatwas that?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
oh, uh, I saw that you were in a lot of the Ryman
music videos.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
as far as credits on the IMDb, yes, so a lot of
coming out of high school I was,I was doing was doing music
videos, acting in them.
But then I was also falling inlove with oh, I can produce and
direct because I, I'm just amovie lover all around, and so
that was something I'm reallypassionate about.
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And so Ryman was one of mygreatest childhood friends.
We grew up next door to eachother and he's really taken off
as a musician and had some greatopportunities.
So we found ourselves like Iended up directing like six or
seven music videos for him,because we just we we got each
other, but we we like eachother's ideas.
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I liked his music actually, andso, uh, it made for really fun,
creative uh projects.
So, yeah, I think I bloatedthose things on my imdb for some
reason, but but, I mean, I'mvery proud of them.
I'm really.
We created some really funstuff there.
So yeah, nashville, I wasdirecting a lot of music videos
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but I wasn't acting.
I wanted to act, but I was onlyacting in my own stuff or
commercials or random shortfilms here.
And then my agent, who stillwas having me read for great
stuff you know, I just wasn'tbooking anything.
I eventually read for that oneline on Miss Marvel, but they
had dummy side, so I actuallydid a scene and then they booked
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me just to say hey, watch outwhich is so funny, but yeah, I
mean, at least you got a coupleof lines or you know a couple of
words to say and something likethat.
Well, yeah, I mean, I I just hada blast being on set.
Like I said, I just like beingthere was so cool, and so it was
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really insightful to watch howthe crew works on such a scale
like that.
And the set was massive, it wasjust there was so much to it.
I will say they, they had acostume error with me because,
um, you know, people aredressing up for avengers con,
right?
So my first day I dressed theyhad me dressed as a shield agent
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for some reason, and I was likethat's kind of odd, isn't
shield?
Like like it.
That's like I guess that's likeme dressing up as the fbi for a
halloween party, you know,whatever.
And um, so I go and I shoot thatday and you know, you still see
me in the crowd.
Like you know, I'm kind ofclose to the front and, um, all
of a sudden, one of the adswalks up to me and, um, I get.
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You know, this is my first bigclose up on a thing they're
about to do, this giant craneshot.
You know they're placing allthe extras in the crowd and so
they're placing the three youknow day players that they
casted for the line and so theyplaced me towards the front and
I'm like, oh my God, and youknow, the cameras in my face and
I'm so excited and I'm likewhoa, whoa, this is gonna be
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really.
This isn't even my line moment,I'm just gonna be like close up
, this is awesome.
And, um, the ad is kind ofwalking around.
You know, the ad doesn't carewho I am or know who, like
you're the day player that saysblind later no, he doesn't know
or care, he just looks at me andhe looks at my costume and he
goes huh, he goes yeah, agentsof shield are kind of fascists,
and this time around in theuniverse.
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So he scooched me all the wayto the back and I was like, like
you, son of a no, for real, andI've never pulled this move
before, ever again.
But I slowly snuck my way backup there you go and I've never
done that because you know Ireally want to respect that.
Like you just take what theytell you, you just go with the
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flow.
But he eventually caught me andhe goes what the heck are you
doing back up here?
And he was pissed about it andI was like and I didn't even say
a word, I just walked to theback again.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
But I was like damn it, oh my god.
She told him you're a shieldagent, you're working your way
to the front, you're there forsecurity.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'd be like francis told me to come up here Like
well, who's?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Francis.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's like what do you mean?
Who's Francis?
Francis is in charge.
She said get up here.
What am I going to do?
Tell her no.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Dude, you're a genius man, you see, you would have
handled this better than me.
The funny thing was next day Icame to set and my trailer was a
different costume.
So technically you see me inthe first episode of Ms Marvel
in two different costumes.
So I love the idea that I'mlike a twin in that world.
It's on them, though, but it'skind of funny to me.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Wasn't that guy just in the other scene wearing a
suit?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, I think they just put me in a Captain Marvel
sweater like a Christmas, Idon't know.
So random, it was so random,but, like I said, it was a great
week, though I think they wereshooting no way home at the time
and so I could see it barelydown the block over there stage
studios and, um, it was justawesome, it was so cool.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, when you, after you, did miss Marvel, did you
work on some of your short filmsfirst, or did you go to
stranger things as your nextthing?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So that was a pretty crazy year for me, because COVID
happened in 2020, of course,and then, oh, I'm trying to
remember the dates on thesethings.
Oh, that's right.
So 2021, as we're kind ofcoming out of COVID just being
shut down, I was auditioningthat fall for some things.
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So that was Ms Marvel.
And then I auditioned forStranger Things, which was, of
course, one of my dream shows toimagine being a part of.
You know, I'm such a big fan and, um, once we hit 2021, I kind
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of like had all these, you know,really big life resets, just
kind of like really finding whoI am and like planning myself in
my life.
And then that was reallyinteresting because at that time
, um, when I was just findingmyself and find my faith, trying
to find, like, just like youknow, the world just had kind of
fallen apart.
Uh, I was was about I justgraduated high school, now what
I'm stuck here, what's going on.
All of a sudden, all theseweird opportunities started
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popping up and it was just areally strange transitional time
of my life.
So I had auditioned forstranger things.
I think it's uh, fall of 2020and then 2021.
I shot.
So it was.
It was miss marvel firstquarter of the year and then
stranger things was in, uh, likejune or july I think uh, yeah,
it was such a I loved it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I loved it, right, I haven't seen all the stranger
things.
I've seen the first, like threeor four episodes that's it
really.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, I've seen everything that they got so far,
so oh my gosh, I love it.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean, I, I stand by .
I think that first season is upthere with like, in my opinion,
I love it just as much as Ilove, like true detective season
one like the season one was inmy opinion, in my opinion, I
think, those two first seasonsand I'm like what?
What would it's lightning in abottle?
It's just incredible.
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I think it's so good.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
To me.
I think the drawback forStranger Things is they've made
so much space in between seasonsthat the kids are no longer
kids.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
If you're going to do a show, like it's the same
thing with the Harry Pottermovies, you have to draft the
right three people off the bat,because you have to carry a
franchise over a decade.
They have to grow up with eachother.
It has to be that way.
You have a core group of actors.
It's like a football team or abaseball team.
It's like you've got to draftthe core players together, let
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them play with each other andlearn, and then there'll be
veterans down the road.
Then they'll go to the Hall ofFame and you'll win
championships.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Absolutely.
I runs down the road.
Then they'll go to the hall offame and you'll win
championships, absolutely.
And I'm honestly still blownaway by how harry potter pulled
that off.
You know what I mean.
Do you guys think about how,like harry potter is that damn
good in my opinion?
Like I think, like it is soconsistently great for every
single movie in my opinion.
I don't know, that's just myopinion, but man, I'm I'm a huge
fan of I look at at HarryPotter movies and I'm like what
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an accomplishment.
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I agree.
I mean, I read the books, andall the books hadn't even come
out yet.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Mitch, just stop smarting, we're going to talk
about Harry Potter.
Yeah, I know You've never readthem.
You saw the first one.
I saw the first movie, that wasit.
I only saw that because we didsome trivia and I didn't want to
leave, so I had to watch it.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
What was wild?
Was like you know, the sorcererstone comes out and every all
these kids are reading it.
And then we see the movie andeverybody learned oh, that's how
you pronounce Hermione, hisname.
No way, everybody's just goingto go like how the hell do you
say this?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Wait, that is hilarious.
Wait, that is hilarious.
Oh my God, I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But we all grew up with those movies.
But that's you know.
With Stranger Things and likeHarry Potter, like long term
franchises are going to have acore set of actors.
It's that building thatcontinues, and Stranger Things
has obviously done a great job.
Now I don't know anything aboutyour character, mason.
What?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
can you tell me about your character from Stranger
Things as someone who has neveractually seen it?
Okay, that's hilarious.
Well, so I kind of got thiscool, fun part because I wasn't
a regular, I wasn't a recurringcharacter.
I literally was this namedcharacter that pops in for just
one scene and I come in, I saysome lines and I I mean it was
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just like, it was just a totalgift, like it was just such a
cool moment to like walk intothe world, live in it for a
second and then walk out.
So uh, I, uh, mike, okay, wait,how do I explain this?
uh, I guess you know Maya Hawk,right, she plays.
She plays this character namedRobin and she comes in on season
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three, um, she's findingherself, uh, and uh, she, she
develops this crush on thisother girl in her band class,
and so the whole season it'skind of like, ooh, oh, are they?
Oh, she, she might be into her,wait, she's into her.
And then, um, towards the endof the season, um, robin's like,
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oh, I'm gonna go profess mylove to her, and it's very sweet
, you know, she builds up thecourage to go do it because she
runs into her crush in thisstore.
And then, as she's gonna gowalk up to her, all of a sudden
I come bursting in and it turnsout that Robin's crush has a
boyfriend, which sucks.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You, son of a.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah and dude, everybody was so angry.
It was amazing.
It was such a fun shock for theshow.
You know it was such a funfurball and I loved coming in
and doing that.
It was so fun.
Amy Beth was just incredible.
It was Maya Hawk, of course I'msuch a big fan and she's so
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talented and cool.
It was a blast.
It was a great time.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Well, I've also noticed you had the Smashing
Pumpkins and Axe to Grind andyou directed and produced both
of those, or just directed.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Directed and produced .
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's what I thought when I looked it up and both of
those that I can remember oneyou play kind of a jerk
boyfriend that's getting revengeand the other one you kind of
play a bully how did you decidejust to make yourself those
roles?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Oh man, that's a great question.
I?
Um honestly wait.
Which one came first?
Smashing Pumpkins?
Um, I made Smashing Pumpkinswith one of my best friends.
Uh, he's an actor and writer,uh, his name's Hunter Romanios
and, um, just one of my bestfriends.
He's, uh, he's on strangerthings as well.
He's one of the basketballplayers and just, uh, incredible
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, incredible actor, writer,really talented guy.
But we both found we worked ona film together years ago and
that's where we met and um, uh,it was ironic, we didn't meet
each other on stranger things atall, but, uh, I'd seen him on
it and you know he knew me fromit, whatever, but we had this
shared love for John Carpenter.
We just loved John Carpentermovies.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
They are fantastic.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
They're so good.
The vibe, just his kind ofambient, even his soundtrack,
all the technicalities of hisstorytelling is just it's
imprinted with his name, likeit's just that is john carpenter
, like it's unmistakable, almost, and uh, and we love his movies
.
So we we kind of realized it'slike well, no one's asking us to
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be in a john carpenter movieright now and that's kind of our
dream as actors.
You know what I mean.
Do something like that.
So we ended up writing SmashingPumpkins, which was kind of
just built around everythingthat we love about horror movies
.
It takes place on Halloween.
It's got a very good fall vibe.
We got the music to sound asclose to John Carpenter as we
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could and whatever.
And I think I was just reallyinfluenced, character wise, by
Christine and you know there's alot of bully, jock assholes in
that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
A cool car.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that80s Monte Carlo and I was like,
oh yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, it's a fun one, dude, and I think I, as an
actor, just really likeexploring different shades of
myself that aren't like Iwouldn't think were within me at
all.
You know what I mean like Iwouldn't think were within me at
all.
You know what I mean.
So, like I, I think it was justfun to like see that as an
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experiment or like a stretchingmyself, to be like, okay, I'm
going to be the, the bully.
I want to be the bully, youknow, and I I never felt like
that growing up.
You know I never.
I've maybe felt like on thereceiving end sometimes.
You know what I mean, but Iwanted to play that and I
thought that would be fun andI'm very proud of it.
It was a short that we haveideas for a feature and really
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want to.
We're having conversations, butwe'll see what happens down the
road, because it would beamazing.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I really like that one and it was very creepy
throughout the entire thing,because you have the person
that's kind of like you can'ttell if he's real or not, and
he's in the background and youhave that character and then you
have a very good twist at theend.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, thank you, man.
Thank you, that means a lot tohear.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It's one of my favorites.
The filming of it was reallygood, like the cinematography
aspect, like the clarity, all ofit looked really really good at
the end when he's, like youknow, swinging the bat and I was
like I know what's gonna happenand I was like I was like here
it comes and I was like, yeah, Iknew it.
But I like the shooting whereyou have, like you know, the
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shape, we can call it like youknow john carpenter style from
the original halloween the shapenot Michael Myers where he's
standing there, silhouetted,ominous, spooky, scary movie.
And then instead of like there'slike a light flash or something
distracts you from it wherehe's just gone, he literally
just drops.
It's like okay, well, where didhe go?
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It was still like.
That was also creepy, becausenormally it's always like
there's like a flashing light,someone like grabs you and you
turn and it's like, oh what?
And then you turn back and he'sgone.
It's likedun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun and the
music starts.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You're so right.
You're so right.
You know it was such a happyaccident.
I got to be honest, at leastfrom what I'm remembering.
I wish I could take more creditfor that because we were so
strapped for time, we could notbe in that diner any later.
And that amazing friend of mine, baron Bodacker he's an
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incredible actor and reallyunderutilized in this short film
, but he plays the grave who isour shape in this film.
But he stayed with us for thatwhole night and he's got some
height on us.
So he's just this tall guy andwe had that shot of him
silhouetted there and we werelike, all right, just drop and
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dude.
I kid you not.
I swear to god, we only did onetake, because the way that he
did that I don't even know.
It almost just messes with myhead because it looks like we
faked that Like it almost does.
He drops in such an odd way.
It really spooks me Like evenhaving been there.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's like his bones melted.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yes, I don't even know how to explain it.
It's very weird.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
It was very fluid how it happened.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Well, to me it almost looked like he's with the toys
from Toy Story and Andy's home.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He just dropped.
He's suddenly inanimate.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Andy's coming.
But I've noticed in that movieor that short and then in some
of the movie stuff, and I meanit in the best way possible- you
play a very good bully slashjerk character, because you've
had a couple of movies whereyou're like you're a frat, uh
kind of like a frat person, uh,you know in like colleges and
stuff and you do a very good jobthank you very much, man, I
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that's awesome.
Something I had heard was youknow, the nicer people are good
at playing the bad guys and badguys you know, sometimes they're
not necessarily the greatgreatest people are playing are
good at playing the bad guys andbad guys.
Sometimes they're notnecessarily the greatest.
People are good at playing goodguys because it's just
something they're acting towards.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
You know what?
I had never heard the latterbefore, but the first part
always made sense to me, butI've never heard the latter
before, which is like oh, thatraises some eyebrows for me, but
I'm going to rethink all thesemovie stars that I've been
talking to.
No, it's funny.
There was a time where I reallywanted to play gruff and
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haunted and dark, because I justfelt like that wasn't me at all
.
But I wanted to explore myrange.
I wanted to explore playing acharacter more and all of a
sudden I found myself playing alot of college fraternity
asshole type, which is reallyfunny.
I didn't even mean for that tohappen, but it just started.
(24:25):
I mean, even Terrifier 3 iskind of in that realm, but we
got to play with the formula alittle bit, in my opinion, with
Terrifier 3, but kind of funnyhow that happened.
Now I'm like boy.
I got to play a nice guy, nowSomething nicer, everybody's
going to think I'm a douche.
I know I can't keep this up.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It's like, hey, we need you for this movie.
Oh, okay, what's it about?
Oh, you know the subplot.
It's like, yeah, you're goingto play this frat guy and you're
like all right Yep.
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I just turn it right on.
It's fun.
I do enjoy it I love it.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Well, that's going to come with age, you know.
As you get older, they won't bepicking you for the young roles
anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I'm down for whatever I mean.
I I wish I could be pickierabout um.
Well, you know, as an actor,you don't.
You don't get to cast yourselfas often as you'd like, and and
I will say that that is what'sbrought me to embracing more of
the producer and director sideof me is because, for one, I
love that style of creativity.
(25:33):
It really excites me.
But also the fact that you canput yourself in something and
try something out that maybenobody was asking you to do.
The stakes aren't too high,it's for yourself.
You know what I mean.
But experiment, and I reallylove that, I really love that.
But I'll take what I can get.
Man, I'm a hungry actor overhere.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Well, when I saw that you had been in some of the
Marvel movies the more kind oflike fantasy and sci-fi and
horror things, one characterthat comes to mind that whenever
the MCU decides to try and makelike the X-Men and stuff you
should definitely try out for,like Warren Worthington, which
is Angel and becomes Archangel,You've got that.
Look to you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Oh my God, I would be honored.
You could be an X-Men.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Just looking from the character in the comics and
stuff, you fit that persona.
You're not overly huge, butyou've still got all that muscle
tone, you're right.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Okay, so he's Angel from X-Men, wasn't he in X-Men
Apocalypse Am?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I crazy.
Yes, he is in.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Apocalypse?
Yeah, but he looked a littledifferent than what I normally
would.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, he looked a little different.
Yeah, comic accurate Angel fromX-Men.
All right, somebody make thathappen, somebody give me a phone
.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You need to talk to your agent.
It's just like hey, if theyever cast this character me
Angel in X-Men, I need to be inX-Men.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I'm sure the MCU will get back to it because that's
what they're working towards themutant stuff.
He's like one of the firstcharacters in X-Men comics.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Dude?
Oh, I mean that would be such a.
Hopefully my involvement withMs Marvel won't bite me in the
butt later.
Could you imagine that it'slike an extra on a Marvel set?
They're like oh, we can'tTechnically.
You're a guy in the crowdnumber two.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
If that ever comes up , you just tell them that was
before you manifested the mutantpowers.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, come on.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I was undercover.
I had the jacket on.
The wings are under the jacket.
You can't see the jacket.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
That was Angel.
You guys don't get it.
That was Angel.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's all connected.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, that was Angel.
You guys don't get it, that wasAngel, it's all connected.
Yeah, well, in preparing forthe, the interview that we had
for today, I kind of looked atsome of the other stuff that you
had done.
Some other people you hadtalked to you had mentioned at
one sorry, I stumble over stuffyou had mentioned in one other
interview that you had done isthat there was a big difference
between acting and filming ondigital and film and you kind of
expressed the desire to do both.
(27:57):
So how has that kind ofinfluenced your short films and
what you've filmed so far?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Oh man, you know.
So I really love film.
Like I love film.
Like I can tell when we'rewatching film.
I love the experience ofwatching film.
Like I love film Like I can, Ican tell when we're watching
film.
I love the experience ofwatching film.
I've got a little indie theateraround here that plays a lot of
35 millimeter prints of oldermovies and I really love the
(28:25):
experience of that.
Not that I'm like, oh you know,film over digital forever.
Like I'm not, I'm not everthere and uh, and with what I
can afford, it's probably gonnahave to stay digital but, um, I
understand that, yeah, yeah,what I, what I really fell in
love with, though, was just the?
um, the energy that film broughtto being on set was just
(28:51):
slightly different.
It was kind of hard to putwords to, but you hear the
camera rolling, which was onedifference.
You hear that thing rolling,and it, it really kind of it
keeps your brain awake.
That you're, you're like,you're on the time, you're on
the dime, you know what I mean,and it, it excites me, it
excites me a lot, and, and Ithink, other than that me, it
(29:16):
excites me a lot, and, and Ithink, other than that I, you
know, even with SmashingPumpkins, like I'm just a big
fan of that kind of older lookof the 80s and uh, even that, uh
, early 90s, uh, I love how filmlooked then.
Even, even I feel like the 2000shad a very striking, uh,
strange look with their lightingsetups and film, and so I, I
think I let my favorite moviesinfluence my shooting style
(29:39):
sometimes, because I'm not a DP,but you know, when you're
directing and writing, you tendto write down what you're
looking for on your shot list,and, man, I just kind of try to
create something that I wouldenjoy watching myself, even if
it was me four years ago.
You know, when I first fell inlove, I watched.
(29:59):
You know, uh, I remember when Iwas first falling in love with
Steven Spielberg movie, so it'slike I want to make something
that reminds me of that.
It evokes that feeling out ofme.
Um.
So, yeah, I, uh, I love both.
I love both.
I wish I could afford film andafford to color it and edit it.
It's just a crazy process.
(30:24):
But acting for somebody's filmthat was shot on 16mm, that was
a complete, totally unique andawesome experience for me.
So I had a great time.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So, from somebody who's not in the know.
You said you have to pay tohave the film colored.
So you shoot, it doesn't matterwhat size, it's always going to
be in black and white, and youhave to pay for the colorization
.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You know.
So here's what I think Iunderstand.
I believe you shoot Kodak, youshoot whatever.
You got your art flex orwhatever it's rolling.
You shoot it.
After that you ship it to goget developed and it takes a
couple of weeks, maybe even amonth or two, and then they
(31:04):
package you.
Oh my gosh wait, do they dothat, or do they?
I think in some cases you shipit out and then they send you a
disc or a drive and it's likethe highest quality digital of
all of your film.
You know what I mean?
Like you don't actually get.
Maybe you get your film back,but I feel like it's like MOVs
(31:26):
now, but they're log, so they'rethey're very gray so that you
can just color them on likeDaVinci or something else like
that.
This is me not really knowinghow the process works, but kind
of gathering it from people.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's more than what we know.
I know Because in my head I'mlike has anyone ever shot a
podcast on film?
I hope not.
There's a lot of, oh my gosh ontape.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Oh, we should do this on tape, That'd be fun.
Oh, like VHS on tape.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Oh, we should do this on tape, that'd be fun.
Oh, like VHS.
It's like the lost episode,it's like it's on VHS.
You have to have a VCR.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
We record on A-track here.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Completely analog.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Now looking back at some of the stuff through your
IMDb.
Were you ever in musicaltheater as well?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It was.
You don't have to beembarrassed through your IMDb.
Were you ever in musicaltheater as well?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I was, it was yeah, you don't have to be embarrassed
, is that?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
something you enjoy.
I really do.
I don't think I got it when Iwas a kid.
I don't think I.
I loved performing, I lovedacting, I loved acting, I, I
loved singing and I was.
I was better than I was, than Iam now.
I was a little, I had a littlebit more together with the
singing, but, um, I, I wish I.
(32:46):
There were people around methat were like studying theater
and they were amazing.
They were like they got it andI think I just struggled to like
.
It's so performative that, likeevery inch of your body is
being witnessed.
You know what I mean and so yougot to have such a control of
yourself in that sense, fullbody acting.
(33:08):
Yeah, it wasn't like a matter ofconfidence, but I always just
felt like going back andwatching myself on whatever.
You know, if the theatervideoed the show or whatever, I
would just be like what am Idoing?
I'm like I noticed how out ofcontrol I would let myself be,
in the sense of like I'm noteven embodying this character
(33:31):
completely.
I don't know, and this is mebeing really critical of myself,
but I do love theater and I Iwish I could go to some school
and like get my butt kicked bylike a professor and like really
like learn and like rehearseand get into it, because I
really only was doing theater inhigh school uh, high school
(33:53):
program, school program, but Ireally did enjoy it.
But, uh, I wish I uh workedhard.
I was having too much fun, butnot not like giving my
performance my all.
If that makes sense, I don'tknow.
That's that's me being critical, though I it was formative
years for me, falling in lovewith performing, truly falling
in love with performing truly.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I think a lot of us think like that.
It's like, oh, if I wentthrough high school now.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I'd get straight A's yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the same
principle precisely.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, because I know, like you know, nowadays I like
the musical movies, like theGreatest Showman and things like
that, but I remember when I wasyounger I was like I have no
interest in watching a musical,but nowadays they're pretty
interesting, depending on whichones they are.
I like them a lot.
I'm still hitting this onmusicals.
It depends on the movie, itdepends Like Guys and Dolls.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I think is great.
West Side Story is great.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers is fantastic.
That was a great lineup.
I think I felt the same way.
I was a great lineup.
I think I felt the same way.
I was a lot more into movies.
I just wasn't in love withtheater or even just musical
theater.
I see it for what it is now, ina different way.
I'm really jealous that I don'thave that in front of me now.
(35:10):
That school forcing me, thatclass, my theater class forcing
me to do it class, my theaterclass forcing me to do it.
It's like I wish somebody wasforcing me to do it right now.
Um, because I kinda, I reallyI've fallen in love with it too,
and um, but one of my favoritemovies was uh, la La Land when
it came out, because I felt likeit was such a.
It was a really unique marriageof.
(35:31):
It's not really a musical, butit is, but it's more of a movie
than it is a musical.
It's very odd because it'll golike 25 minutes without a
musical number at some point.
You know what I mean.
There is a musical number, butit's more grounded than I don't.
It's so fascinating, but Ireally have fallen.
(35:52):
I haven't seen wicked yet, but,uh, I have really fallen in
love with uh watching musicals II really enjoy them you should
make a movie about going to likedrama school that would be
sweet.
Honestly, I that truly was likemy coming of age.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Oh wait, going to drama school like the theater
department, or like yeah, likegoing into like theater, like
make a movie about it hire aprofessor to be like the actual
teacher in the mood.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
This way you could actually kind of do it for free,
yeah see well that I that trulywas like my coming of age was
high school theater Like I justremember being a freshman and
all the advanced theaterstudents were just upperclassmen
and for some reason I was inthere and they all just made me
laugh so much and we did so manystupid, crazy fun things.
(36:40):
So I would honestly that wouldbe a dream movie to write If I
could uh go shoot at a school.
Uh, for that period of time youshould be able to.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I mean whatever your alma mater is, as far as you
know high school, like I'm surethose kids would be as like
seniors would love to be in it.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
That'd be awesome and make it part of like a school
project.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
You probably won't pay him.
See, dude, there's a, there's amovie, there's a feature, right
there.
Right, I'm the idea guy on thisshow.
I I come up with lots of ideas.
I never follow through with asingle one of them, but I come
up with good stuff he's the idea, he's the talker.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Hayden's the one that just pushes everybody.
I'm the one that has to doeverything oh that, I totally
get that I got that um.
But before we move on totalking about terrifier 3, last
thing I kind of seen is that umnow granted.
Like I said, it's on imdb, so Imay or may not be true, but it
says that your dad was a biginfluence for you in acting yes,
(37:36):
yeah I how so?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
so, yeah, really really honestly, kind of unique
experience that I realized.
I didn't realize how unique itwas until, you know, even I find
out how unique it is everyother week.
You know what I mean.
But my dad really was a movielover and he had a big influence
(38:02):
on the movies that I watchedwhen I was a kid.
So that was Spielberg, that wasGeorge Lucas and even figuring
out who Francis Ford Coppola isand stuff like that, and he
always had a camera at home.
So he shot my first short filmwith me and it was about my toys
(38:27):
coming to life and I was fiveor six.
You know what I mean.
It was my toys for life to killme and it was it was small
soldiers yes, it was literallysmall soldiers and so, um, and I
think what was crazy was thathe's and all of this is on my
youtube, like, if you go, if youscroll to the bottom enough,
you'll see the war movies my dadmade with me and my friends, uh
(38:51):
, the day the toys came to life,all that stuff, um, but I I
think what's crazy is that, like, they're not like throw away
horrible tape recorder films.
You know what I mean they'relike they're actually really my
dad's very talented and and uh,he's just good at what he he
does with the camera and,honestly, it's grown into a
(39:13):
relationship where we'vecollaborated a lot together.
Like, I throw ideas at him allthe time and he wants to direct
and shoot, uh and uh.
Even this summer I wrote ashort for him.
It's uh, I can't say much yet,but he directed it and I acted
in it.
It's called restoration and, uh, it's just doing its final lap
(39:38):
on sound mix right now.
So I'm very excited, but it wassuch a it's such a fun
collaboration because we wemotivate each other to um,
self-produce as much as we can,because we just love it.
Can I ask, is?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
it about a father and son restoring an old car.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
It is.
It is, it must be on IMDb.
Is it on there?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
No no.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Tom, just no, oh, the car, the restoration.
No way you nailed that, thoughI mean it's on the nose.
The restoration.
No way you nailed that, thoughI mean it's on the nose, as you
would think you gave me all theclues Restoration, father and
son.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I'm like, yeah, it's an old car or truck or something
, because that's like everydad's dream, dude it's precisely
that.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
It's really funny.
It's two friends working on anold Corvette from a barn find
and I was just about to ask whatkind of car it was.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
What's that?
I was just about to ask whatkind of car it was and you said
Corvette.
I was like that's nice, that'ssleek.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, it's really cool.
So my dad and real it's funny,I wrote it because I knew things
that he would like.
You know what I mean.
So Mike does have a hobby ofgetting really cheap, old,
messed up Stingray Corvetteslike 76, 79.
(40:56):
And he fixes them up as best hecan and he just really loves
and enjoys doing that.
So here we are we have this oldCorvette that looks like it
still needs a paint job.
It looks crazy and I'm like,great, I would buy that.
This looks like it's been leftin a barn.
You know what I mean.
So let's drive it out to a barnand we shoot this short and man
(41:17):
.
I'm very proud of it and he'svery talented and we're hoping
to see what you know, maybethere's festivals for it or what
.
But um, I'm just, I'm justhonored.
I mean he's been such a hugeinfluence on my creative life I
mean definitely put that shortout there.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Definitely put that short out there yeah, yeah, I'm
very excited.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
We're done with the color and um and it's really
getting its final sound passright now.
So I think once that turns thecorner there, I'll drop a
trailer and then we can gettalking about it.
But I'm very excited, I'm veryproud of him for it.
It's been cool Well good, myfather-in-law.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
He restores old cars and he's got like a 1940s Ford
something I can't remember whatit is.
And then he's got a 70sFirebird that he's restored,
that he has.
And then my father-in-law'sfather-in-law had an old I want
to say it's like a 60s Fordtruck that they had repainted
(42:18):
and fixed up.
So he's got all sorts of stuff.
He's got like a whole extragarage just to hold the cars.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Nobody in my family has that, except my mom's cousin
.
He has four vintage I think.
They're all like 1970 or 71,plymouth Barracudas, and they're
like pristine.
Two of them are purple, one'slike lime green, the other one's
like that bright orange.
And he won't let any of hiskids drive them.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
That's amazing.
Okay, so getting on to theterrifier 3.
How did you land this role?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
man, I, uh, I've sent an audition from my management
and um, and I was nervousbecause, uh, the the movies
freaked me out.
I didn't think I could stomachit.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
They're very gory.
They are.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
They are, and I'm even a fan of the Saw movies.
So, like I'm not, I didn'tthink that I was like, oh you
know, but chair fire gets me,and uh.
So anyways, I of course I knewit would, it would be an honor,
even though I don't know if Icould stomach it.
I knew it would be an honor tobe a part of it, and so I read
(43:39):
for it and there was aboutseveral callbacks and then
eventually a zoom with DamianLeone, who directs and writes,
and uh and uh with our castingdirector, and uh, phil falcone,
and uh, it was great.
And then, you know, I met alexon one of the zooms.
We had a chemistry read and uh,and that was it, that was it
from there.
And, um, it was insane.
I mean, I'm so proud of it.
(44:00):
It's been really one of myfavorite filmmaking experiences.
Uh, it's such, even even on theproduction level, it was such a
throwback to classic horrorfilms that I love, and all the
inspiration was there.
It was just built all aroundthat, and so it just felt like
the closest thing I could be apart of.
That felt like, well, I'm goingto grind house 80s film.
(44:23):
That's what it felt like Such agift.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I would want my death scene to just be as ridiculous
as possible.
I get my guts raked out of meor something with a metal rake
by a clown and I'm just layingthere going Choke on it.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
That's a good idea For your death scene in this
movie.
You don't have to go intodetail, but is it awkward
filming like in a shower?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Um, you know, I, of course, like you it's, you know
it's like oh, I I'm about to beexposed in front of a lot of
people and you know you're alittle like, eh, that's's,
that's odd, but you know it'sfilmmaking, we're making movies
here.
But I mean seriously, at thistime we had all really gotten to
(45:15):
know each other so well and andit doesn't make like doing like
something like that, like youknow, not like, not weird at all
, but like, but like Alexa and Ihad made such good friends and
we had a wonderful intimacycoordinator on set and, uh, and
I learned how incredibleintimacy coordinators can be on
(45:37):
film sets, because they don't,they don't fight for the film,
they fight for you.
It's pretty much like filmDon't make the producers and
everybody brought somebody in toliterally tell them like to
literally stand in the way ifthey have to.
And I think that's such anincredible position because
(45:57):
Maria, who is our intimacycoordinator, just not that there
were things that we were.
There was zero pressure to makeus do anything that we weren't
comfortable with and we'd agreedto everything at this point,
but Maria was there to just, youknow, like eagle eye, watch us,
make sure we're okay, make surewe're comfortable and, like I
said, alexa and I we had verylike, we had such a camaraderie
(46:20):
at this point that was kind oflike all right, we're in this
together, let's do this thing.
You know what I mean.
At this point that was kind oflike, all right, we're in this
together, let's do this thing.
You know what I mean.
So it was fun, it waschallenging and it was uh unique
.
I'd never done anything likethat.
Uh, it's funny to think back toit because I was wearing, like,
depending on what kind ofcoverage they were doing, we
were both wearing very strangeunderwear devices that were like
food color.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
You know what I mean.
I don't even know, yeah I'll bebe standing there with my hand
in the water going oh it's cold,that's great.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Thankfully, the water was warm.
That made me I was whew, oh myGod, because we were in that for
three days.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
So I was like, please be warm.
Well, talking about theintimacy coordinator, we had
spoke with Serena Vincent fromCabin Fever and she said that
they do a very good job ofmaking sure you go as far as
you're comfortable with, but,you know, not overboard to where
you know anything outside yourwheelhouse that you wouldn't
want to be.
So it's very interesting howthat goes about, especially when
(47:15):
it's people that are, you know,just getting to know each other
for this one film.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
That so or character, and not another teen movie
who's naked the entire movie.
Yeah, that too.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
She said that was awkward because she was kind of
isolated, because that was hercharacter the whole time.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Wait, she's naked.
The entire movie have you everseen?
Not Another Teen.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Movie.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
I haven't.
Is that the?
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Chris Evans one.
Yes, she plays a character who,literally, is naked in every
scene.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
It's like a movie trope.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Yeah, make it fun of it.
Yeah, that's very funny, butman, that is, that's some
confidence.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Man, I felt weird about showing my butt man like
you know, alright, like here weare she played a character that
was naked the whole time.
So she said that every timethat she got off stage she just
had to wear a coat to wear andthen she was kind of sequestered
away from everyone else becausethey're in clothes and she's
not.
(48:09):
So she said it was.
It was kind of awkward filmingbecause she never got to really
meet and talk with all the restof the characters they're just
like naked girl that's too bad.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
That would be.
That would be an isolatingexperience for sure.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Oh, and but uh, you know, in your, your scene in
terrifier 3, you you die in theshower and I saw where you
recently posted on yourinstagram kind of your process
of getting like the, the castmade for your, your death.
How does that?
What's that feeling, just likehaving to put all that stuff on
you and wait for it to dry andall that man, it's uh, it's
(48:44):
heavy's heavy claustrophobic.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I didn't know it was claustrophobic until, like, we
were doing it, but um it, um, itreally starts to weigh down how
many layers are getting paintedon you and you saw that when
you were in your video and it'slike man, there's so much and uh
, and I kind of had to cock myhead a certain way because at
this point my body would belaying on the floor and, like
(49:09):
you know, my head back a littlebit.
So I did just kind of like holdthis position and it was about
like 45 minutes and, yeah, itwas claustrophobic, I will say.
I don't think my face has everfelt that exfoliated, I was
glowing, I felt great, I waslike, well, I noticed, when they
(49:32):
put everything on, theybasically leave you just enough
to where you can breathe throughyour nostrils, and that's it,
exactly that's it.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
How do you get taken out in the movie?
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Oh, which one?
Have both of you not seen it,or one of you?
Speaker 2 (49:47):
I've seen your scene.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
I, I'm poor, I can't go to the theater you're seeing
yes that's hilarious.
Um what was your question?
How do I get?
Speaker 1 (49:57):
how do you die?
Speaker 3 (49:59):
yeah, it's gnarly.
So I'm in the shower with mygirlfriend and uh, arthur clown
pops up with a chainsaw and it'slike psycho meets, scarface
meets, something you've neverseen before, because it is just
gnarly and insane.
But uh, it's a blast man.
I mean like I lose my fingers,I my leg gets cut off, all the
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stuff and uh, the final blow isuh, he sticks the chainsaw up my
butt and goes right up for mylegs oh man, insane, it's insane
.
I I was so happy, um, I walkedinto a couple theaters where it
was playing and everyone peoplewere screaming at that scene,
(50:45):
like screaming with laughter,with oh my God.
It was great and it made mefeel so honored to be a part of
a viewing experience wherepeople are reacting like that.
I mean, it was just such adream.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
That could be a scene like in a movie, like an actor
is like watching himself like ina death seat at a theater just
to see how the audiencereactions.
It's like.
It's like, yeah, it's like theytold me they're gonna like have
a cloud.
Is it gonna be like gonna cutoff my leg with a chain?
So I'm like shoving up my buttand then like cut me in half and
it's like let's see how they'relike.
And he's just standing theregoing yes, yeah, everyone.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Why'd they want me to dial what the come on?
No, but it was funny becauseyou know it's dark in a movie
theater and I wasn't making mypresence known or like being
loud or anything.
But there were a couple peoplein the rows in front of me that
just happened to turn around andthey looked at me because one
of my scenes had just finishedin the movie and I just saw
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their finger point like what?
And then at that point I shouldgo.
They're watching the movie, youknow what I mean, but they're
like is that him.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
That's when I do that double take.
Wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
He's on the screen.
How can he be behind me too?
How can?
Speaker 3 (51:56):
he be there what.
What is that that's funny Is?
Is there anything you're?
Speaker 1 (52:09):
working on right now you can reveal that's coming
along.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
I, you know, I'd say like around Christmas time it's
a very slow season, but I was,very fortunately, a part of a
pretty cool TV show happeninghere in the Southeast and I'm
not in it a lot, but I, you know, I was very happy to have my
portion of screen time.
So, uh, I just wrapped that.
So I'm kind of taking it easyfor christmas and we'll kind of
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see what's happening coming upnext year.
But, uh, I think it'll be apretty cool show and I'm just
happy to be involved, how youknow, in any way, like I was.
It'll be fun.
I can't say much now but it'llbe really cool.
Other than that, I'm waitingfor some stuff to come out.
It's just a little bit of awaiting period to see when
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there's going to be a releasedate or when this film happens
or what, trying to figure outwhat the next one is until in
the meantime.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Is there any businesses shorts, any stuff
you're working on you want toplug for our listeners?
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Man, if you want to just keep posted with me on
Instagram, mason McCarty, myproduction company is the Day
Productions.
Our Instagram for that isTheDayFilmsCo C-O.
You can keep posted withwhatever me and my pals are
making here.
We are working on some funstuff coming up.
(53:38):
We're pushing ourselves andwe're taking some leaps that we
have yet to have done before.
We're excited and we'll see howthat pays off and goes forward,
but 2025 will be a good year.
We know that for sure.
We're going to try some stuff.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Well, one thing we typically ask everybody at least
once is has there been anybodythat you've been on set with or
anything that's kind of left youstarstruck at any moment from
somebody that you look up to oranything like that?
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Ooh, ooh.
That is such a good question.
Let me do some thinking for onesecond, because the answer is
yes.
Oh man, you know, honestly, Ifeel really blessed that there's
been several.
I feel really blessed thatthere's been several, several
opportunities to uh work withpeople that I have been familiar
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with, their work, you know, anduh, I'd say, like in a set
experience, stranger Things wasa really awesome time because it
was a lot of the principal castfilming there with me that day.
So it was just a dream to justkind of hang out with them and
(54:53):
get to know them.
And it's funny, a little bit,earlier this year I just
happened to run into Maya Hawkat a movie theater and she
recognized me and it was reallynice and and I just respect her
so much as an artist, um, as anactor, it's just like it was.
That was just a really coolexperience for me because she's
(55:15):
always been very inspiring to mewith her music and her
creativity and even how sheworks with her dad.
I feel like that I relate to uhwith my father and um,
creatively and I just yeah, so Ifelt like she's really left an
impression on me and she's Ireally respect her and her work.
And then, other than that, letme think of somebody else that's
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been fun.
I I mean, um, oh man, like Isaid, there's just been, there's
been a lot of opportunities forfun stuff like this.
I mean, I got to work with ShaneWest.
He was big in the 2000s, he wasin several awesome movies A
Walk to Remember.
(55:57):
I worked with him Just a coolguy, you know and I just loved
hearing his stories.
Just loved hearing his stories.
Uh, jonathan sheck was anotherguy I got to work with on a show
called blue ridge and he playsa cop on there and, uh, I
remember there was a scene thatwe kind of improvised the ending
to, but it was very unspoken,it just kind of happened.
But, like, whatever I threw athim, he picked up and he threw
(56:18):
back at me and I threw back athim and it just worked and it
was.
And once they called cut himand I just looked at each other,
we were like and that's whatthat's what acting is about, and
we were like wow and we just itwas very nerdy acting moment.
But I really cherish that memoryof him and I playing, you know,
off script, just going for it,you know, and uh, so uh,
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jonathan sheck, he's amazing, hewas was in Tom Hanks' that
Thing.
You Do that movie with theBeatles-type band.
So anyways, he's in the Doomgeneration.
He's had a really cool career.
But anyway, man, yeah, I feelso blessed.
I mean even David HowardThornton and Lauren Lavera and
Elliot Fulham, I mean they'resuch awesome artists that I
(57:02):
respect.
And so Terrifier 3 was just ajoyful experience creatively.
It was just so fun and inviting.
They're all just top of theirgame and just horror legends and
icons.
It's not going to stop here, soI know that for them, but it's
very exciting.
I feel so blessed for that stuff.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
I haven't met a single famous person in person
ever.
I haven't met anybody, like youknow, super famous like ever in
person and it would always belike someone will go like
somewhere the day after and it'slike Shaq is there and I'm like
alright hey, it's coming.
It's coming someday well thenI'll meet all of them at once
(57:45):
and I'll be like, oh my god.
And then I'll probably likepass out and fart yep, yep, I've
been there.
I really want to just take asecond to say thank you for
being on our little show andtalking to me and Mitch oh my
god.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
Well, thank you guys for having me.
I seriously enjoy this stuffand I like talking to fellow
movie lovers and getting into it.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
Thank you for having me we could do a whole episode
just about John Carpenter movies.
Thomas call me and I think weshould next Halloween as it
comes up.
This way we can put it in thespooky season.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
I love.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
It sounds great to me well, thank you for listening
to this episode of Entertain.
This, I'm Tom, I'm Mitch, andwe'll catch you on the Put it in
the spooky season.
I love.
It Sounds great to me.
Well, thank you for listeningto this episode of Entertain.
This, I'm Tom, I'm Mitch, andwe'll catch you on you next time
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.
Hello and welcome to entertain this.
It's a podcast about movies, tvshows and video games.
I don't know why we feelobligated to say it that way.
I'm Tom With me, I have Mitchand my name is Hayden.
That's right, we still don'thave our co-host Hayden.
He's still galvanizing aroundTexas.
Now he's slowly making his wayaround the globe back to my
(00:45):
apartment to drink all my Pepsisand put his nasty feet on the
coffee table.
But we're not here to talkabout that.
We have a guest and a specialtreat for you, listening
wherever you may be.
We got Mason McCarty.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
What's going on, guys ?
How you?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
doing, doing good.
Mason, how have you been?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Oh man, just soaking in the holiday season, taking it
easy, that's about it.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So for those of you who don't know who Mason McCarty
is, he's an actor, filmmaker.
You can catch him in Terrifier3.
You can catch him in StrangerThings.
I think people have heard ofthat Stranger Things show.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, it's a little underground, but it's pretty
cool.
I recommend it to a lot ofpeople.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And I'm going to say you've also got your short films
of the Smashing Pumpkins Actsto Grind.
I saw that you were in MsMarvel for a scene as well.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, that's a fun story, but, yeah, yeah, I love
that stuff.
Um, miss, you know what I willsay.
Miss marvel was, um, that wasone of my first like legit
bookings, because I had grown upin hendersonville, tennessee,
and I wanted to pursue acting.
I wanted to get out of here and, uh, I really fell in love with
directing and producing.
(02:03):
So I was working on my own stuff, I was doing whatever I was
doing a lot of commercials herein town but, then one day I got
the call from my agent that Ibooked the one-liner, the
one-liner in Ms Marvel, and Iwas like no way, are you kidding
?
I was so excited and I'd neverreally been to Atlanta before
and it was shooting for a weekbecause it was like um, it was
(02:26):
just like, uh, like to get intoit.
So I don't know if you guyswatch this marvel, but there's a
big comic con sequence but it'savengers avengers con in the
first episode.
So, and um, of course you knowyou're gonna have to pay extras
more if you let them talk orhave a line, so they're going to
pay three people that can beyour talking extras.
(02:46):
So it's like they're gettingpaid more than extras.
Uh, so they're pretty much dayplayers, but they're going to be
in the extras crowd, butwhenever you need them you pull
them out and they they say theline.
You know what I mean?
And um, anyways, I was one ofthose people but I got to be at
Trillis Studios for a week and Imean, on, that set was
(03:08):
incredible and it was such aeye-opening experience for me.
It was just like I felt throwninto, like oh, this is what a
big set looks like for the firsttime.
And of course, I was a Marvelfan.
But it was funny because itcame down to the last day where
I was supposed to say my lineand they just cut it.
So I was like, okay, buthonestly I wasn't that upset at
(03:32):
all.
I just kind of had the bestweek ever and it was such a
taste of like what I want tocontinue pursuing.
I want to get back to this.
You know what I mean.
So it was an incredibleexperience.
But you can see me in the crowd, but yeah, what was your line?
oh, my line was totally like areyou okay?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
like it was that it was just like I got like three
words yeah, pointless.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Um, I don't blame him for cutting it I think that
we've.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I don't know, Tom, if you did, but I've worked on one
of the Marvel films.
As far as doing security, weworked on the Winter Soldier and
Falcon and one of their scenesthey were filming they were
having to break out of jail andall that stuff.
So we got to work a little bitof security for that.
That was kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I only did security for one, and that was what was
that show, deputy?
I think it was on fox orsomething, or fx.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I did that, oh yeah, I worked a little bit of that
one, but yeah, I got to.
You know stand, I was standingnext to anthony mackie and
talked to him for like a coupleminutes before, like in between
scenes.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
That was kind of cool you never told me that, and
we've been friends for years.
Well, you never mentioned that.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I only saw him for like maybe five minutes before
he went and filmed his thing,because where I was standing in
the hallway that was where hislike, I guess pre-makeup artist
or makeup person was before hewent on.
Yeah, but we've done a coupleof smaller things like that, but
that's our extent of our I meanour.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
The real person who should be here for these
interviews is Hayden, because heactually has a degree in film.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, he's made some short films and things like that
.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
That's sweet, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So how long were you really in the acting business or
filmmaking business beforethey're like, hey, you're going
to be in a Marvel show?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh, that's a good question.
You know, I I was uh not reallydoing much at all before that.
I I was here in Tennessee and Iuh fortunately had gotten an
agent in high school and, um,and she's just been lovely and
uh, she's this little boutiqueagency here in the southeast but
(05:43):
she is incredible and uh, and II don't know what she saw on me
because I was very uh oddwhenever I was younger.
I just was finding I, I just Ididn't know what I was doing at
all, but uh, she took a shot onme and um, anyway, so she was
keeping me busy here with musicvideos.
You know, n's got so manyvideos.
(06:04):
Uh, I, I joke with my friendsthere's like some sort of
there's got to be some sort oflike Mason McCarty music video
universe, because I'm in so manyfreaking country music videos
here and it's so funny to see mepop up like where's Waldo on
some of these things, and I mean, honestly, I've met so many
great people doing this.
But uh, I saw, sorry oh, whatwas that?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
oh, uh, I saw that you were in a lot of the Ryman
music videos.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
as far as credits on the IMDb, yes, so a lot of
coming out of high school I was,I was doing was doing music
videos, acting in them.
But then I was also falling inlove with oh, I can produce and
direct because I, I'm just amovie lover all around, and so
that was something I'm reallypassionate about.
(06:49):
And so Ryman was one of mygreatest childhood friends.
We grew up next door to eachother and he's really taken off
as a musician and had some greatopportunities.
So we found ourselves like Iended up directing like six or
seven music videos for him,because we just we we got each
other, but we we like eachother's ideas.
(07:11):
I liked his music actually, andso, uh, it made for really fun,
creative uh projects.
So, yeah, I think I bloatedthose things on my imdb for some
reason, but but, I mean, I'mvery proud of them.
I'm really.
We created some really funstuff there.
So yeah, nashville, I wasdirecting a lot of music videos
(07:32):
but I wasn't acting.
I wanted to act, but I was onlyacting in my own stuff or
commercials or random shortfilms here.
And then my agent, who stillwas having me read for great
stuff you know, I just wasn'tbooking anything.
I eventually read for that oneline on Miss Marvel, but they
had dummy side, so I actuallydid a scene and then they booked
(07:53):
me just to say hey, watch outwhich is so funny, but yeah, I
mean, at least you got a coupleof lines or you know a couple of
words to say and something likethat.
Well, yeah, I mean, I I just hada blast being on set.
Like I said, I just like beingthere was so cool, and so it was
(08:14):
really insightful to watch howthe crew works on such a scale
like that.
And the set was massive, it wasjust there was so much to it.
I will say they, they had acostume error with me because,
um, you know, people aredressing up for avengers con,
right?
So my first day I dressed theyhad me dressed as a shield agent
(08:37):
for some reason, and I was likethat's kind of odd, isn't
shield?
Like like it.
That's like I guess that's likeme dressing up as the fbi for a
halloween party, you know,whatever.
And um, so I go and I shoot thatday and you know, you still see
me in the crowd.
Like you know, I'm kind ofclose to the front and, um, all
of a sudden, one of the adswalks up to me and, um, I get.
(09:00):
You know, this is my first bigclose up on a thing they're
about to do, this giant craneshot.
You know they're placing allthe extras in the crowd and so
they're placing the three youknow day players that they
casted for the line and so theyplaced me towards the front and
I'm like, oh my God, and youknow, the cameras in my face and
I'm so excited and I'm likewhoa, whoa, this is gonna be
(09:21):
really.
This isn't even my line moment,I'm just gonna be like close up
, this is awesome.
And, um, the ad is kind ofwalking around.
You know, the ad doesn't carewho I am or know who, like
you're the day player that saysblind later no, he doesn't know
or care, he just looks at me andhe looks at my costume and he
goes huh, he goes yeah, agentsof shield are kind of fascists,
and this time around in theuniverse.
(09:43):
So he scooched me all the wayto the back and I was like, like
you, son of a no, for real, andI've never pulled this move
before, ever again.
But I slowly snuck my way backup there you go and I've never
done that because you know Ireally want to respect that.
Like you just take what theytell you, you just go with the
(10:06):
flow.
But he eventually caught me andhe goes what the heck are you
doing back up here?
And he was pissed about it andI was like and I didn't even say
a word, I just walked to theback again.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
But I was like damn it, oh my god.
She told him you're a shieldagent, you're working your way
to the front, you're there forsecurity.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'd be like francis told me to come up here Like
well, who's?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Francis.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's like what do you mean?
Who's Francis?
Francis is in charge.
She said get up here.
What am I going to do?
Tell her no.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Dude, you're a genius man, you see, you would have
handled this better than me.
The funny thing was next day Icame to set and my trailer was a
different costume.
So technically you see me inthe first episode of Ms Marvel
in two different costumes.
So I love the idea that I'mlike a twin in that world.
It's on them, though, but it'skind of funny to me.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Wasn't that guy just in the other scene wearing a
suit?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, I think they just put me in a Captain Marvel
sweater like a Christmas, Idon't know.
So random, it was so random,but, like I said, it was a great
week, though I think they wereshooting no way home at the time
and so I could see it barelydown the block over there stage
studios and, um, it was justawesome, it was so cool.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, when you, after you, did miss Marvel, did you
work on some of your short filmsfirst, or did you go to
stranger things as your nextthing?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So that was a pretty crazy year for me, because COVID
happened in 2020, of course,and then, oh, I'm trying to
remember the dates on thesethings.
Oh, that's right.
So 2021, as we're kind ofcoming out of COVID just being
shut down, I was auditioningthat fall for some things.
(11:48):
So that was Ms Marvel.
And then I auditioned forStranger Things, which was, of
course, one of my dream shows toimagine being a part of.
You know, I'm such a big fan and, um, once we hit 2021, I kind
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of like had all these, you know,really big life resets, just
kind of like really finding whoI am and like planning myself in
my life.
And then that was reallyinteresting because at that time
, um, when I was just findingmyself and find my faith, trying
to find, like, just like youknow, the world just had kind of
fallen apart.
Uh, I was was about I justgraduated high school, now what
I'm stuck here, what's going on.
All of a sudden, all theseweird opportunities started
(12:30):
popping up and it was just areally strange transitional time
of my life.
So I had auditioned forstranger things.
I think it's uh, fall of 2020and then 2021.
I shot.
So it was.
It was miss marvel firstquarter of the year and then
stranger things was in, uh, likejune or july I think uh, yeah,
it was such a I loved it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I loved it, right, I haven't seen all the stranger
things.
I've seen the first, like threeor four episodes that's it
really.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, I've seen everything that they got so far,
so oh my gosh, I love it.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean, I, I stand by .
I think that first season is upthere with like, in my opinion,
I love it just as much as Ilove, like true detective season
one like the season one was inmy opinion, in my opinion, I
think, those two first seasonsand I'm like what?
What would it's lightning in abottle?
It's just incredible.
(13:24):
I think it's so good.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
To me.
I think the drawback forStranger Things is they've made
so much space in between seasonsthat the kids are no longer
kids.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
If you're going to do a show, like it's the same
thing with the Harry Pottermovies, you have to draft the
right three people off the bat,because you have to carry a
franchise over a decade.
They have to grow up with eachother.
It has to be that way.
You have a core group of actors.
It's like a football team or abaseball team.
It's like you've got to draftthe core players together, let
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them play with each other andlearn, and then there'll be
veterans down the road.
Then they'll go to the Hall ofFame and you'll win
championships.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Absolutely.
I runs down the road.
Then they'll go to the hall offame and you'll win
championships, absolutely.
And I'm honestly still blownaway by how harry potter pulled
that off.
You know what I mean.
Do you guys think about how,like harry potter is that damn
good in my opinion?
Like I think, like it is soconsistently great for every
single movie in my opinion.
I don't know, that's just myopinion, but man, I'm I'm a huge
fan of I look at at HarryPotter movies and I'm like what
(14:25):
an accomplishment.
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I agree.
I mean, I read the books, andall the books hadn't even come
out yet.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Mitch, just stop smarting, we're going to talk
about Harry Potter.
Yeah, I know You've never readthem.
You saw the first one.
I saw the first movie, that wasit.
I only saw that because we didsome trivia and I didn't want to
leave, so I had to watch it.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
What was wild?
Was like you know, the sorcererstone comes out and every all
these kids are reading it.
And then we see the movie andeverybody learned oh, that's how
you pronounce Hermione, hisname.
No way, everybody's just goingto go like how the hell do you
say this?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Wait, that is hilarious.
Wait, that is hilarious.
Oh my God, I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But we all grew up with those movies.
But that's you know.
With Stranger Things and likeHarry Potter, like long term
franchises are going to have acore set of actors.
It's that building thatcontinues, and Stranger Things
has obviously done a great job.
Now I don't know anything aboutyour character, mason.
What?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
can you tell me about your character from Stranger
Things as someone who has neveractually seen it?
Okay, that's hilarious.
Well, so I kind of got thiscool, fun part because I wasn't
a regular, I wasn't a recurringcharacter.
I literally was this namedcharacter that pops in for just
one scene and I come in, I saysome lines and I I mean it was
(15:44):
just like, it was just a totalgift, like it was just such a
cool moment to like walk intothe world, live in it for a
second and then walk out.
So uh, I, uh, mike, okay, wait,how do I explain this?
uh, I guess you know Maya Hawk,right, she plays.
She plays this character namedRobin and she comes in on season
(16:05):
three, um, she's findingherself, uh, and uh, she, she
develops this crush on thisother girl in her band class,
and so the whole season it'skind of like, ooh, oh, are they?
Oh, she, she might be into her,wait, she's into her.
And then, um, towards the endof the season, um, robin's like,
(16:28):
oh, I'm gonna go profess mylove to her, and it's very sweet
, you know, she builds up thecourage to go do it because she
runs into her crush in thisstore.
And then, as she's gonna gowalk up to her, all of a sudden
I come bursting in and it turnsout that Robin's crush has a
boyfriend, which sucks.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You, son of a.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah and dude, everybody was so angry.
It was amazing.
It was such a fun shock for theshow.
You know it was such a funfurball and I loved coming in
and doing that.
It was so fun.
Amy Beth was just incredible.
It was Maya Hawk, of course I'msuch a big fan and she's so
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talented and cool.
It was a blast.
It was a great time.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Well, I've also noticed you had the Smashing
Pumpkins and Axe to Grind andyou directed and produced both
of those, or just directed.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Directed and produced .
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's what I thought when I looked it up and both of
those that I can remember oneyou play kind of a jerk
boyfriend that's getting revengeand the other one you kind of
play a bully how did you decidejust to make yourself those
roles?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Oh man, that's a great question.
I?
Um honestly wait.
Which one came first?
Smashing Pumpkins?
Um, I made Smashing Pumpkinswith one of my best friends.
Uh, he's an actor and writer,uh, his name's Hunter Romanios
and, um, just one of my bestfriends.
He's, uh, he's on strangerthings as well.
He's one of the basketballplayers and just, uh, incredible
(18:10):
, incredible actor, writer,really talented guy.
But we both found we worked ona film together years ago and
that's where we met and um, uh,it was ironic, we didn't meet
each other on stranger things atall, but, uh, I'd seen him on
it and you know he knew me fromit, whatever, but we had this
shared love for John Carpenter.
We just loved John Carpentermovies.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
They are fantastic.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
They're so good.
The vibe, just his kind ofambient, even his soundtrack,
all the technicalities of hisstorytelling is just it's
imprinted with his name, likeit's just that is john carpenter
, like it's unmistakable, almost, and uh, and we love his movies
.
So we we kind of realized it'slike well, no one's asking us to
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be in a john carpenter movieright now and that's kind of our
dream as actors.
You know what I mean.
Do something like that.
So we ended up writing SmashingPumpkins, which was kind of
just built around everythingthat we love about horror movies
.
It takes place on Halloween.
It's got a very good fall vibe.
We got the music to sound asclose to John Carpenter as we
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could and whatever.
And I think I was just reallyinfluenced, character wise, by
Christine and you know there's alot of bully, jock assholes in
that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
A cool car.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that80s Monte Carlo and I was like,
oh yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, it's a fun one, dude, and I think I, as an
actor, just really likeexploring different shades of
myself that aren't like Iwouldn't think were within me at
all.
You know what I mean like Iwouldn't think were within me at
all.
You know what I mean.
So, like I, I think it was justfun to like see that as an
(20:01):
experiment or like a stretchingmyself, to be like, okay, I'm
going to be the, the bully.
I want to be the bully, youknow, and I I never felt like
that growing up.
You know I never.
I've maybe felt like on thereceiving end sometimes.
You know what I mean, but Iwanted to play that and I
thought that would be fun andI'm very proud of it.
It was a short that we haveideas for a feature and really
(20:23):
want to.
We're having conversations, butwe'll see what happens down the
road, because it would beamazing.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I really like that one and it was very creepy
throughout the entire thing,because you have the person
that's kind of like you can'ttell if he's real or not, and
he's in the background and youhave that character and then you
have a very good twist at theend.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, thank you, man.
Thank you, that means a lot tohear.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It's one of my favorites.
The filming of it was reallygood, like the cinematography
aspect, like the clarity, all ofit looked really really good at
the end when he's, like youknow, swinging the bat and I was
like I know what's gonna happenand I was like I was like here
it comes and I was like, yeah, Iknew it.
But I like the shooting whereyou have, like you know, the
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shape, we can call it like youknow john carpenter style from
the original halloween the shapenot Michael Myers where he's
standing there, silhouetted,ominous, spooky, scary movie.
And then instead of like there'slike a light flash or something
distracts you from it wherehe's just gone, he literally
just drops.
It's like okay, well, where didhe go?
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It was still like.
That was also creepy, becausenormally it's always like
there's like a flashing light,someone like grabs you and you
turn and it's like, oh what?
And then you turn back and he'sgone.
It's likedun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun and the
music starts.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You're so right.
You're so right.
You know it was such a happyaccident.
I got to be honest, at leastfrom what I'm remembering.
I wish I could take more creditfor that because we were so
strapped for time, we could notbe in that diner any later.
And that amazing friend of mine, baron Bodacker he's an
(22:02):
incredible actor and reallyunderutilized in this short film
, but he plays the grave who isour shape in this film.
But he stayed with us for thatwhole night and he's got some
height on us.
So he's just this tall guy andwe had that shot of him
silhouetted there and we werelike, all right, just drop and
(22:23):
dude.
I kid you not.
I swear to god, we only did onetake, because the way that he
did that I don't even know.
It almost just messes with myhead because it looks like we
faked that Like it almost does.
He drops in such an odd way.
It really spooks me Like evenhaving been there.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's like his bones melted.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yes, I don't even know how to explain it.
It's very weird.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
It was very fluid how it happened.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Well, to me it almost looked like he's with the toys
from Toy Story and Andy's home.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He just dropped.
He's suddenly inanimate.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Andy's coming.
But I've noticed in that movieor that short and then in some
of the movie stuff, and I meanit in the best way possible- you
play a very good bully slashjerk character, because you've
had a couple of movies whereyou're like you're a frat, uh
kind of like a frat person, uh,you know in like colleges and
stuff and you do a very good jobthank you very much, man, I
(23:25):
that's awesome.
Something I had heard was youknow, the nicer people are good
at playing the bad guys and badguys you know, sometimes they're
not necessarily the greatgreatest people are playing are
good at playing the bad guys andbad guys.
Sometimes they're notnecessarily the greatest.
People are good at playing goodguys because it's just
something they're acting towards.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
You know what?
I had never heard the latterbefore, but the first part
always made sense to me, butI've never heard the latter
before, which is like oh, thatraises some eyebrows for me, but
I'm going to rethink all thesemovie stars that I've been
talking to.
No, it's funny.
There was a time where I reallywanted to play gruff and
(24:03):
haunted and dark, because I justfelt like that wasn't me at all
.
But I wanted to explore myrange.
I wanted to explore playing acharacter more and all of a
sudden I found myself playing alot of college fraternity
asshole type, which is reallyfunny.
I didn't even mean for that tohappen, but it just started.
(24:25):
I mean, even Terrifier 3 iskind of in that realm, but we
got to play with the formula alittle bit, in my opinion, with
Terrifier 3, but kind of funnyhow that happened.
Now I'm like boy.
I got to play a nice guy, nowSomething nicer, everybody's
going to think I'm a douche.
I know I can't keep this up.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It's like, hey, we need you for this movie.
Oh, okay, what's it about?
Oh, you know the subplot.
It's like, yeah, you're goingto play this frat guy and you're
like all right Yep.
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I just turn it right on.
It's fun.
I do enjoy it I love it.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Well, that's going to come with age, you know.
As you get older, they won't bepicking you for the young roles
anymore.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I'm down for whatever I mean.
I I wish I could be pickierabout um.
Well, you know, as an actor,you don't.
You don't get to cast yourselfas often as you'd like, and and
I will say that that is what'sbrought me to embracing more of
the producer and director sideof me is because, for one, I
love that style of creativity.
(25:33):
It really excites me.
But also the fact that you canput yourself in something and
try something out that maybenobody was asking you to do.
The stakes aren't too high,it's for yourself.
You know what I mean.
But experiment, and I reallylove that, I really love that.
But I'll take what I can get.
Man, I'm a hungry actor overhere.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Well, when I saw that you had been in some of the
Marvel movies the more kind oflike fantasy and sci-fi and
horror things, one characterthat comes to mind that whenever
the MCU decides to try and makelike the X-Men and stuff you
should definitely try out for,like Warren Worthington, which
is Angel and becomes Archangel,You've got that.
Look to you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Oh my God, I would be honored.
You could be an X-Men.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Just looking from the character in the comics and
stuff, you fit that persona.
You're not overly huge, butyou've still got all that muscle
tone, you're right.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Okay, so he's Angel from X-Men, wasn't he in X-Men
Apocalypse Am?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I crazy.
Yes, he is in.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Apocalypse?
Yeah, but he looked a littledifferent than what I normally
would.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, he looked a little different.
Yeah, comic accurate Angel fromX-Men.
All right, somebody make thathappen, somebody give me a phone
.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You need to talk to your agent.
It's just like hey, if theyever cast this character me
Angel in X-Men, I need to be inX-Men.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I'm sure the MCU will get back to it because that's
what they're working towards themutant stuff.
He's like one of the firstcharacters in X-Men comics.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Dude?
Oh, I mean that would be such a.
Hopefully my involvement withMs Marvel won't bite me in the
butt later.
Could you imagine that it'slike an extra on a Marvel set?
They're like oh, we can'tTechnically.
You're a guy in the crowdnumber two.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
If that ever comes up , you just tell them that was
before you manifested the mutantpowers.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, come on.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I was undercover.
I had the jacket on.
The wings are under the jacket.
You can't see the jacket.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
That was Angel.
You guys don't get it.
That was Angel.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's all connected.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, that was Angel.
You guys don't get it, that wasAngel, it's all connected.
Yeah, well, in preparing forthe, the interview that we had
for today, I kind of looked atsome of the other stuff that you
had done.
Some other people you hadtalked to you had mentioned at
one sorry, I stumble over stuffyou had mentioned in one other
interview that you had done isthat there was a big difference
between acting and filming ondigital and film and you kind of
expressed the desire to do both.
(27:57):
So how has that kind ofinfluenced your short films and
what you've filmed so far?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Oh man, you know.
So I really love film.
Like I love film.
Like I can tell when we'rewatching film.
I love the experience ofwatching film.
Like I love film Like I can, Ican tell when we're watching
film.
I love the experience ofwatching film.
I've got a little indie theateraround here that plays a lot of
35 millimeter prints of oldermovies and I really love the
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experience of that.
Not that I'm like, oh you know,film over digital forever.
Like I'm not, I'm not everthere and uh, and with what I
can afford, it's probably gonnahave to stay digital but, um, I
understand that, yeah, yeah,what I, what I really fell in
love with, though, was just the?
um, the energy that film broughtto being on set was just
(28:51):
slightly different.
It was kind of hard to putwords to, but you hear the
camera rolling, which was onedifference.
You hear that thing rolling,and it, it really kind of it
keeps your brain awake.
That you're, you're like,you're on the time, you're on
the dime, you know what I mean,and it, it excites me, it
excites me a lot, and, and Ithink, other than that me, it
(29:16):
excites me a lot, and, and Ithink, other than that I, you
know, even with SmashingPumpkins, like I'm just a big
fan of that kind of older lookof the 80s and uh, even that, uh
, early 90s, uh, I love how filmlooked then.
Even, even I feel like the 2000shad a very striking, uh,
strange look with their lightingsetups and film, and so I, I
think I let my favorite moviesinfluence my shooting style
(29:39):
sometimes, because I'm not a DP,but you know, when you're
directing and writing, you tendto write down what you're
looking for on your shot list,and, man, I just kind of try to
create something that I wouldenjoy watching myself, even if
it was me four years ago.
You know, when I first fell inlove, I watched.
(29:59):
You know, uh, I remember when Iwas first falling in love with
Steven Spielberg movie, so it'slike I want to make something
that reminds me of that.
It evokes that feeling out ofme.
Um.
So, yeah, I, uh, I love both.
I love both.
I wish I could afford film andafford to color it and edit it.
It's just a crazy process.
(30:24):
But acting for somebody's filmthat was shot on 16mm, that was
a complete, totally unique andawesome experience for me.
So I had a great time.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So, from somebody who's not in the know.
You said you have to pay tohave the film colored.
So you shoot, it doesn't matterwhat size, it's always going to
be in black and white, and youhave to pay for the colorization
.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
You know.
So here's what I think Iunderstand.
I believe you shoot Kodak, youshoot whatever.
You got your art flex orwhatever it's rolling.
You shoot it.
After that you ship it to goget developed and it takes a
couple of weeks, maybe even amonth or two, and then they
(31:04):
package you.
Oh my gosh wait, do they dothat, or do they?
I think in some cases you shipit out and then they send you a
disc or a drive and it's likethe highest quality digital of
all of your film.
You know what I mean?
Like you don't actually get.
Maybe you get your film back,but I feel like it's like MOVs
(31:26):
now, but they're log, so they'rethey're very gray so that you
can just color them on likeDaVinci or something else like
that.
This is me not really knowinghow the process works, but kind
of gathering it from people.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's more than what we know.
I know Because in my head I'mlike has anyone ever shot a
podcast on film?
I hope not.
There's a lot of, oh my gosh ontape.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Oh, we should do this on tape, That'd be fun.
Oh, like VHS on tape.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Oh, we should do this on tape, that'd be fun.
Oh, like VHS.
It's like the lost episode,it's like it's on VHS.
You have to have a VCR.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
We record on A-track here.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Completely analog.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Now looking back at some of the stuff through your
IMDb.
Were you ever in musicaltheater as well?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
It was.
You don't have to beembarrassed through your IMDb.
Were you ever in musicaltheater as well?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I was, it was yeah, you don't have to be embarrassed
, is that?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
something you enjoy.
I really do.
I don't think I got it when Iwas a kid.
I don't think I.
I loved performing, I lovedacting, I loved acting, I, I
loved singing and I was.
I was better than I was, than Iam now.
I was a little, I had a littlebit more together with the
singing, but, um, I, I wish I.
(32:46):
There were people around methat were like studying theater
and they were amazing.
They were like they got it andI think I just struggled to like
.
It's so performative that, likeevery inch of your body is
being witnessed.
You know what I mean and so yougot to have such a control of
yourself in that sense, fullbody acting.
(33:08):
Yeah, it wasn't like a matter ofconfidence, but I always just
felt like going back andwatching myself on whatever.
You know, if the theatervideoed the show or whatever, I
would just be like what am Idoing?
I'm like I noticed how out ofcontrol I would let myself be,
in the sense of like I'm noteven embodying this character
(33:31):
completely.
I don't know, and this is mebeing really critical of myself,
but I do love theater and I Iwish I could go to some school
and like get my butt kicked bylike a professor and like really
like learn and like rehearseand get into it, because I
really only was doing theater inhigh school uh, high school
(33:53):
program, school program, but Ireally did enjoy it.
But, uh, I wish I uh workedhard.
I was having too much fun, butnot not like giving my
performance my all.
If that makes sense, I don'tknow.
That's that's me being critical, though I it was formative
years for me, falling in lovewith performing, truly falling
in love with performing truly.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I think a lot of us think like that.
It's like, oh, if I wentthrough high school now.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I'd get straight A's yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the same
principle precisely.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well, because I know, like you know, nowadays I like
the musical movies, like theGreatest Showman and things like
that, but I remember when I wasyounger I was like I have no
interest in watching a musical,but nowadays they're pretty
interesting, depending on whichones they are.
I like them a lot.
I'm still hitting this onmusicals.
It depends on the movie, itdepends Like Guys and Dolls.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I think is great.
West Side Story is great.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers is fantastic.
That was a great lineup.
I think I felt the same way.
I was a great lineup.
I think I felt the same way.
I was a lot more into movies.
I just wasn't in love withtheater or even just musical
theater.
I see it for what it is now, ina different way.
I'm really jealous that I don'thave that in front of me now.
(35:10):
That school forcing me, thatclass, my theater class forcing
me to do it class, my theaterclass forcing me to do it.
It's like I wish somebody wasforcing me to do it right now.
Um, because I kinda, I reallyI've fallen in love with it too,
and um, but one of my favoritemovies was uh, la La Land when
it came out, because I felt likeit was such a.
It was a really unique marriageof.
(35:31):
It's not really a musical, butit is, but it's more of a movie
than it is a musical.
It's very odd because it'll golike 25 minutes without a
musical number at some point.
You know what I mean.
There is a musical number, butit's more grounded than I don't.
It's so fascinating, but Ireally have fallen.
(35:52):
I haven't seen wicked yet, but,uh, I have really fallen in
love with uh watching musicals II really enjoy them you should
make a movie about going to likedrama school that would be
sweet.
Honestly, I that truly was likemy coming of age.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Oh wait, going to drama school like the theater
department, or like yeah, likegoing into like theater, like
make a movie about it hire aprofessor to be like the actual
teacher in the mood.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
This way you could actually kind of do it for free,
yeah see well that I that trulywas like my coming of age was
high school theater Like I justremember being a freshman and
all the advanced theaterstudents were just upperclassmen
and for some reason I was inthere and they all just made me
laugh so much and we did so manystupid, crazy fun things.
(36:40):
So I would honestly that wouldbe a dream movie to write If I
could uh go shoot at a school.
Uh, for that period of time youshould be able to.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I mean whatever your alma mater is, as far as you
know high school, like I'm surethose kids would be as like
seniors would love to be in it.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
That'd be awesome and make it part of like a school
project.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
You probably won't pay him.
See, dude, there's a, there's amovie, there's a feature, right
there.
Right, I'm the idea guy on thisshow.
I I come up with lots of ideas.
I never follow through with asingle one of them, but I come
up with good stuff he's the idea, he's the talker.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Hayden's the one that just pushes everybody.
I'm the one that has to doeverything oh that, I totally
get that I got that um.
But before we move on totalking about terrifier 3, last
thing I kind of seen is that umnow granted.
Like I said, it's on imdb, so Imay or may not be true, but it
says that your dad was a biginfluence for you in acting yes,
(37:36):
yeah I how so?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
so, yeah, really really honestly, kind of unique
experience that I realized.
I didn't realize how unique itwas until, you know, even I find
out how unique it is everyother week.
You know what I mean.
But my dad really was a movielover and he had a big influence
(38:02):
on the movies that I watchedwhen I was a kid.
So that was Spielberg, that wasGeorge Lucas and even figuring
out who Francis Ford Coppola isand stuff like that, and he
always had a camera at home.
So he shot my first short filmwith me and it was about my toys
(38:27):
coming to life and I was fiveor six.
You know what I mean.
It was my toys for life to killme and it was it was small
soldiers yes, it was literallysmall soldiers and so, um, and I
think what was crazy was thathe's and all of this is on my
youtube, like, if you go, if youscroll to the bottom enough,
you'll see the war movies my dadmade with me and my friends, uh
(38:51):
, the day the toys came to life,all that stuff, um, but I I
think what's crazy is that, like, they're not like throw away
horrible tape recorder films.
You know what I mean they'relike they're actually really my
dad's very talented and and uh,he's just good at what he he
does with the camera and,honestly, it's grown into a
(39:13):
relationship where we'vecollaborated a lot together.
Like, I throw ideas at him allthe time and he wants to direct
and shoot, uh and uh.
Even this summer I wrote ashort for him.
It's uh, I can't say much yet,but he directed it and I acted
in it.
It's called restoration and, uh, it's just doing its final lap
(39:38):
on sound mix right now.
So I'm very excited, but it wassuch a it's such a fun
collaboration because we wemotivate each other to um,
self-produce as much as we can,because we just love it.
Can I ask, is?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
it about a father and son restoring an old car.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
It is.
It is, it must be on IMDb.
Is it on there?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
No no.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Tom, just no, oh, the car, the restoration.
No way you nailed that, thoughI mean it's on the nose.
The restoration.
No way you nailed that, thoughI mean it's on the nose, as you
would think you gave me all theclues Restoration, father and
son.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I'm like, yeah, it's an old car or truck or something
, because that's like everydad's dream, dude it's precisely
that.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
It's really funny.
It's two friends working on anold Corvette from a barn find
and I was just about to ask whatkind of car it was.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
What's that?
I was just about to ask whatkind of car it was and you said
Corvette.
I was like that's nice, that'ssleek.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, it's really cool.
So my dad and real it's funny,I wrote it because I knew things
that he would like.
You know what I mean.
So Mike does have a hobby ofgetting really cheap, old,
messed up Stingray Corvetteslike 76, 79.
(40:56):
And he fixes them up as best hecan and he just really loves
and enjoys doing that.
So here we are we have this oldCorvette that looks like it
still needs a paint job.
It looks crazy and I'm like,great, I would buy that.
This looks like it's been leftin a barn.
You know what I mean.
So let's drive it out to a barnand we shoot this short and man
(41:17):
.
I'm very proud of it and he'svery talented and we're hoping
to see what you know, maybethere's festivals for it or what
.
But um, I'm just, I'm justhonored.
I mean he's been such a hugeinfluence on my creative life I
mean definitely put that shortout there.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Definitely put that short out there yeah, yeah, I'm
very excited.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
We're done with the color and um and it's really
getting its final sound passright now.
So I think once that turns thecorner there, I'll drop a
trailer and then we can gettalking about it.
But I'm very excited, I'm veryproud of him for it.
It's been cool Well good, myfather-in-law.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
He restores old cars and he's got like a 1940s Ford
something I can't remember whatit is.
And then he's got a 70sFirebird that he's restored,
that he has.
And then my father-in-law'sfather-in-law had an old I want
to say it's like a 60s Fordtruck that they had repainted
(42:18):
and fixed up.
So he's got all sorts of stuff.
He's got like a whole extragarage just to hold the cars.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Nobody in my family has that, except my mom's cousin
.
He has four vintage I think.
They're all like 1970 or 71,plymouth Barracudas, and they're
like pristine.
Two of them are purple, one'slike lime green, the other one's
like that bright orange.
And he won't let any of hiskids drive them.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
That's amazing.
Okay, so getting on to theterrifier 3.
How did you land this role?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
man, I, uh, I've sent an audition from my management
and um, and I was nervousbecause, uh, the the movies
freaked me out.
I didn't think I could stomachit.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
They're very gory.
They are.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
They are, and I'm even a fan of the Saw movies.
So, like I'm not, I didn'tthink that I was like, oh you
know, but chair fire gets me,and uh.
So anyways, I of course I knewit would, it would be an honor,
even though I don't know if Icould stomach it.
I knew it would be an honor tobe a part of it, and so I read
(43:39):
for it and there was aboutseveral callbacks and then
eventually a zoom with DamianLeone, who directs and writes,
and uh and uh with our castingdirector, and uh, phil falcone,
and uh, it was great.
And then, you know, I met alexon one of the zooms.
We had a chemistry read and uh,and that was it, that was it
from there.
And, um, it was insane.
I mean, I'm so proud of it.
(44:00):
It's been really one of myfavorite filmmaking experiences.
Uh, it's such, even even on theproduction level, it was such a
throwback to classic horrorfilms that I love, and all the
inspiration was there.
It was just built all aroundthat, and so it just felt like
the closest thing I could be apart of.
That felt like, well, I'm goingto grind house 80s film.
(44:23):
That's what it felt like Such agift.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
I would want my death scene to just be as ridiculous
as possible.
I get my guts raked out of meor something with a metal rake
by a clown and I'm just layingthere going Choke on it.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
That's a good idea For your death scene in this
movie.
You don't have to go intodetail, but is it awkward
filming like in a shower?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Um, you know, I, of course, like you it's, you know
it's like oh, I I'm about to beexposed in front of a lot of
people and you know you're alittle like, eh, that's's,
that's odd, but you know it'sfilmmaking, we're making movies
here.
But I mean seriously, at thistime we had all really gotten to
(45:15):
know each other so well and andit doesn't make like doing like
something like that, like youknow, not like, not weird at all
, but like, but like Alexa and Ihad made such good friends and
we had a wonderful intimacycoordinator on set and, uh, and
I learned how incredibleintimacy coordinators can be on
(45:37):
film sets, because they don't,they don't fight for the film,
they fight for you.
It's pretty much like filmDon't make the producers and
everybody brought somebody in toliterally tell them like to
literally stand in the way ifthey have to.
And I think that's such anincredible position because
(45:57):
Maria, who is our intimacycoordinator, just not that there
were things that we were.
There was zero pressure to makeus do anything that we weren't
comfortable with and we'd agreedto everything at this point,
but Maria was there to just, youknow, like eagle eye, watch us,
make sure we're okay, make surewe're comfortable and, like I
said, alexa and I we had verylike, we had such a camaraderie
(46:20):
at this point that was kind oflike all right, we're in this
together, let's do this thing.
You know what I mean.
At this point that was kind oflike, all right, we're in this
together, let's do this thing.
You know what I mean.
So it was fun, it waschallenging and it was uh unique
.
I'd never done anything likethat.
Uh, it's funny to think back toit because I was wearing, like,
depending on what kind ofcoverage they were doing, we
were both wearing very strangeunderwear devices that were like
food color.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
You know what I mean.
I don't even know, yeah I'll bebe standing there with my hand
in the water going oh it's cold,that's great.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Thankfully, the water was warm.
That made me I was whew, oh myGod, because we were in that for
three days.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
So I was like, please be warm.
Well, talking about theintimacy coordinator, we had
spoke with Serena Vincent fromCabin Fever and she said that
they do a very good job ofmaking sure you go as far as
you're comfortable with, but,you know, not overboard to where
you know anything outside yourwheelhouse that you wouldn't
want to be.
So it's very interesting howthat goes about, especially when
(47:15):
it's people that are, you know,just getting to know each other
for this one film.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
That so or character, and not another teen movie
who's naked the entire movie.
Yeah, that too.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
She said that was awkward because she was kind of
isolated, because that was hercharacter the whole time.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Wait, she's naked.
The entire movie have you everseen?
Not Another Teen.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Movie.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
I haven't.
Is that the?
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Chris Evans one.
Yes, she plays a character who,literally, is naked in every
scene.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
It's like a movie trope.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Yeah, make it fun of it.
Yeah, that's very funny, butman, that is, that's some
confidence.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Man, I felt weird about showing my butt man like
you know, alright, like here weare she played a character that
was naked the whole time.
So she said that every timethat she got off stage she just
had to wear a coat to wear andthen she was kind of sequestered
away from everyone else becausethey're in clothes and she's
not.
(48:09):
So she said it was.
It was kind of awkward filmingbecause she never got to really
meet and talk with all the restof the characters they're just
like naked girl that's too bad.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
That would be.
That would be an isolatingexperience for sure.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Oh, and but uh, you know, in your, your scene in
terrifier 3, you you die in theshower and I saw where you
recently posted on yourinstagram kind of your process
of getting like the, the castmade for your, your death.
How does that?
What's that feeling, just likehaving to put all that stuff on
you and wait for it to dry andall that man, it's uh, it's
(48:44):
heavy's heavy claustrophobic.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I didn't know it was claustrophobic until, like, we
were doing it, but um it, um, itreally starts to weigh down how
many layers are getting paintedon you and you saw that when
you were in your video and it'slike man, there's so much and uh
, and I kind of had to cock myhead a certain way because at
this point my body would belaying on the floor and, like
(49:09):
you know, my head back a littlebit.
So I did just kind of like holdthis position and it was about
like 45 minutes and, yeah, itwas claustrophobic, I will say.
I don't think my face has everfelt that exfoliated, I was
glowing, I felt great, I waslike, well, I noticed, when they
(49:32):
put everything on, theybasically leave you just enough
to where you can breathe throughyour nostrils, and that's it,
exactly that's it.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
How do you get taken out in the movie?
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Oh, which one?
Have both of you not seen it,or one of you?
Speaker 2 (49:47):
I've seen your scene.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
I, I'm poor, I can't go to the theater you're seeing
yes that's hilarious.
Um what was your question?
How do I get?
Speaker 1 (49:57):
how do you die?
Speaker 3 (49:59):
yeah, it's gnarly.
So I'm in the shower with mygirlfriend and uh, arthur clown
pops up with a chainsaw and it'slike psycho meets, scarface
meets, something you've neverseen before, because it is just
gnarly and insane.
But uh, it's a blast man.
I mean like I lose my fingers,I my leg gets cut off, all the
(50:21):
stuff and uh, the final blow isuh, he sticks the chainsaw up my
butt and goes right up for mylegs oh man, insane, it's insane
.
I I was so happy, um, I walkedinto a couple theaters where it
was playing and everyone peoplewere screaming at that scene,
(50:45):
like screaming with laughter,with oh my God.
It was great and it made mefeel so honored to be a part of
a viewing experience wherepeople are reacting like that.
I mean, it was just such adream.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
That could be a scene like in a movie, like an actor
is like watching himself like ina death seat at a theater just
to see how the audiencereactions.
It's like.
It's like, yeah, it's like theytold me they're gonna like have
a cloud.
Is it gonna be like gonna cutoff my leg with a chain?
So I'm like shoving up my buttand then like cut me in half and
it's like let's see how they'relike.
And he's just standing theregoing yes, yeah, everyone.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Why'd they want me to dial what the come on?
No, but it was funny becauseyou know it's dark in a movie
theater and I wasn't making mypresence known or like being
loud or anything.
But there were a couple peoplein the rows in front of me that
just happened to turn around andthey looked at me because one
of my scenes had just finishedin the movie and I just saw
(51:46):
their finger point like what?
And then at that point I shouldgo.
They're watching the movie, youknow what I mean, but they're
like is that him.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
That's when I do that double take.
Wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
He's on the screen.
How can he be behind me too?
How can?
Speaker 3 (51:56):
he be there what.
What is that that's funny Is?
Is there anything you're?
Speaker 1 (52:09):
working on right now you can reveal that's coming
along.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
I, you know, I'd say like around Christmas time it's
a very slow season, but I was,very fortunately, a part of a
pretty cool TV show happeninghere in the Southeast and I'm
not in it a lot, but I, you know, I was very happy to have my
portion of screen time.
So, uh, I just wrapped that.
So I'm kind of taking it easyfor christmas and we'll kind of
(52:34):
see what's happening coming upnext year.
But, uh, I think it'll be apretty cool show and I'm just
happy to be involved, how youknow, in any way, like I was.
It'll be fun.
I can't say much now but it'llbe really cool.
Other than that, I'm waitingfor some stuff to come out.
It's just a little bit of awaiting period to see when
(52:56):
there's going to be a releasedate or when this film happens
or what, trying to figure outwhat the next one is until in
the meantime.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Is there any businesses shorts, any stuff
you're working on you want toplug for our listeners?
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Man, if you want to just keep posted with me on
Instagram, mason McCarty, myproduction company is the Day
Productions.
Our Instagram for that isTheDayFilmsCo C-O.
You can keep posted withwhatever me and my pals are
making here.
We are working on some funstuff coming up.
(53:38):
We're pushing ourselves andwe're taking some leaps that we
have yet to have done before.
We're excited and we'll see howthat pays off and goes forward,
but 2025 will be a good year.
We know that for sure.
We're going to try some stuff.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Well, one thing we typically ask everybody at least
once is has there been anybodythat you've been on set with or
anything that's kind of left youstarstruck at any moment from
somebody that you look up to oranything like that?
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Ooh, ooh.
That is such a good question.
Let me do some thinking for onesecond, because the answer is
yes.
Oh man, you know, honestly, Ifeel really blessed that there's
been several.
I feel really blessed thatthere's been several, several
opportunities to uh work withpeople that I have been familiar
(54:32):
with, their work, you know, anduh, I'd say, like in a set
experience, stranger Things wasa really awesome time because it
was a lot of the principal castfilming there with me that day.
So it was just a dream to justkind of hang out with them and
(54:53):
get to know them.
And it's funny, a little bit,earlier this year I just
happened to run into Maya Hawkat a movie theater and she
recognized me and it was reallynice and and I just respect her
so much as an artist, um, as anactor, it's just like it was.
That was just a really coolexperience for me because she's
(55:15):
always been very inspiring to mewith her music and her
creativity and even how sheworks with her dad.
I feel like that I relate to uhwith my father and um,
creatively and I just yeah, so Ifelt like she's really left an
impression on me and she's Ireally respect her and her work.
And then, other than that, letme think of somebody else that's
(55:37):
been fun.
I I mean, um, oh man, like Isaid, there's just been, there's
been a lot of opportunities forfun stuff like this.
I mean, I got to work with ShaneWest.
He was big in the 2000s, he wasin several awesome movies A
Walk to Remember.
(55:57):
I worked with him Just a coolguy, you know and I just loved
hearing his stories.
Just loved hearing his stories.
Uh, jonathan sheck was anotherguy I got to work with on a show
called blue ridge and he playsa cop on there and, uh, I
remember there was a scene thatwe kind of improvised the ending
to, but it was very unspoken,it just kind of happened.
But, like, whatever I threw athim, he picked up and he threw
(56:18):
back at me and I threw back athim and it just worked and it
was.
And once they called cut himand I just looked at each other,
we were like and that's whatthat's what acting is about, and
we were like wow and we just itwas very nerdy acting moment.
But I really cherish that memoryof him and I playing, you know,
off script, just going for it,you know, and uh, so uh,
(56:41):
jonathan sheck, he's amazing, hewas was in Tom Hanks' that
Thing.
You Do that movie with theBeatles-type band.
So anyways, he's in the Doomgeneration.
He's had a really cool career.
But anyway, man, yeah, I feelso blessed.
I mean even David HowardThornton and Lauren Lavera and
Elliot Fulham, I mean they'resuch awesome artists that I
(57:02):
respect.
And so Terrifier 3 was just ajoyful experience creatively.
It was just so fun and inviting.
They're all just top of theirgame and just horror legends and
icons.
It's not going to stop here, soI know that for them, but it's
very exciting.
I feel so blessed for that stuff.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
I haven't met a single famous person in person
ever.
I haven't met anybody, like youknow, super famous like ever in
person and it would always belike someone will go like
somewhere the day after and it'slike Shaq is there and I'm like
alright hey, it's coming.
It's coming someday well thenI'll meet all of them at once
(57:45):
and I'll be like, oh my god.
And then I'll probably likepass out and fart yep, yep, I've
been there.
I really want to just take asecond to say thank you for
being on our little show andtalking to me and Mitch oh my
god.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
Well, thank you guys for having me.
I seriously enjoy this stuffand I like talking to fellow
movie lovers and getting into it.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
Thank you for having me we could do a whole episode
just about John Carpenter movies.
Thomas call me and I think weshould next Halloween as it
comes up.
This way we can put it in thespooky season.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
I love.
Speaker 1 (58:24):
It sounds great to me well, thank you for listening
to this episode of Entertain.
This, I'm Tom, I'm Mitch, andwe'll catch you on the Put it in
the spooky season.
I love.
It Sounds great to me.
Well, thank you for listeningto this episode of Entertain.
This, I'm Tom, I'm Mitch, andwe'll catch you on you next time
(58:49):
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