Entirely NBA Cast Talks LeBron vs MJ, Kawhi's Injuries, & MORE | EPISODE 1 - Entirely NBA

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Michael ever seen a let's go down the list a Kevin Durant and Stephen Curry a clay Thompson

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I mean who else did he play in the finals a Dirk Nowinski Mike wasn't playing people like that
He's playing mailman Karl Malone John Stockton who can't shoot all I can do is pass the ball
I mean you said Clyde Drexler Charles Barkley who are these people?
Yeah, the Hall of Famers. Yeah, he's a great generation. Charles Barkley talks about doughnuts on TV all day. Yeah, he's watching now.

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He's watching now, but Charles Barkley was him. You asked LeBron what he's doing ten years from now
He's probably still dribbling the ball somewhere down the road, man. So yes, you can't get mad at somebody for the generation they played in.
Welcome back to Entirely NBA hosted by Entirely Media. I'm your host Darion Robinson to my right. My guy.

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What's good? And to my left is my other guy LeBron Jr. And back there in the black flipping couple tacos is my guy.
All right, so to start off we're gonna do something hot. So how many years does LeBron have left in the NBA?
What you think? G his?
Jizzle. At least 20. At least honestly, if you want to be honest, he's got 10. Good 10. How old is LeBron right now? 40? 39?

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39. 39. He's not playing till 49. 46. Take it or leave it.
Is that really the thing you think LeBron can play to 46? No. No. Not at all. No.
Have you guys not seen his offseason tapes for season 21 this year so far?
I've seen a lot of offseason tapes and when niggas get back into the league they don't look like them offseason tapes.
Anthony was one of the people. How dare you put Carmelo and LeBron's name in the same sentence though.

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Ever let me hear some things like that again.
You got two years left mandatory this year. You got two years left with the Lakers. How about that?
Yeah, two years left with the Lakers. If Bronny comes into the league and gets drafted by probably OKC, does he go to the Thunder?
They got, of course, Alexander. No, he's going to the Thunder period.

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They got that tall white guy, wasn't he? Chas. They got Joss Giddy.
Chas. Joss Giddy.
Dort. Yeah, Dort. They got both of Jalen Williams.
They got like 20-something picks. They got the Australian, y'all forgetting.
Giddy? They're not going to win in crunch time in the playoffs.
I mean, that's because they're young. But Bron can go wherever the hell he wants.

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That's what I'm saying. If he does, so they pick up Bronny who at that point would probably just be a bench player.
He's not starting on that team. Oh, no. Not starting on that team. Bron comes there. No, he can't.
Bron comes there to much mature about 2024, 2025, something like that. 2025. That's the championship team.
See, LeBron's age is 39, but his body is like 33. So I mean, he has like seven years, technically, honestly, for being honest to what I would think Bron would do,

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because athleticism is catching up to him. Like age is time never lost. So if he got three years solid, two years solid,
three years at the most, I think that like he's not going to play if he's a second string player.
At what point in time would he be a second string player?
You can only play for so long. I don't care what you say. Even though he's smart as hell.

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You think he'll end up being a Russ? How Russ was in the Lakers?
Don't disrespect Russ. He just didn't fit the game plan. That's it. That's because Russ still got a lot of gas in the 10th.
I can't believe what I'm hearing right now. What Tom Brady played to was 45 in the NFL.
What Tom Brady had to do was sit in the pocket for a couple of seconds.
That is football. You have to tackle somebody to get the play finished.

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I mean, no, I respect Tom Brady too, but at the same time, it's just like.
So if we're giving every athlete in the world Tom Brady's timeline, LeBron has half a decade left minimum plus some.
He's saying he'll be here until he's 44.
I don't know. I don't see it. And Tom could still play right now, he said. He just doesn't want to. So that's a contact sport.

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Basketball is not as physical. It's different. It's different all around.
You can't compare football and basketball. You're right, because football is worse.
I don't know. I'm trying to go up and down a court for 38 minutes.
That takes a higher toll on your body than sitting in the pocket and dodging a couple hits.
What's the average time for a football game set? A football play? Seven seconds?

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Let's never watch a Super Bowl before. Seven seconds. Seven seconds is what I'm saying.
It's crazy. All right, fair enough. So LeBron's playing until he's 45. No, he's not. Just throwing that out there. Sorry.
All right, cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Let's shift off of LeBron real quick.
So I did a couple of videos on Dwayne Wade and his current situation. There's a couple of things on there I want to talk about.
Dwayne Wade, how would you handle a situation if you had a son daughter like he did?

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No comment. Son daughter. OK, no comment. Are you asking me specifically? Everybody in this room.
Everybody? Yes, I mean, not in my house. Look, Kyle has a son. No. He names him Kyle Murph Jr.
And he wants to become Kyle Murph Jr. I'm not a parent. I'm not going to speak on no parental things.

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That's just in my opinion. I don't agree with it, but I don't have to. What don't you agree with?
I don't agree with the decision. What decision?
This is a sensitive subject, but like I don't agree with it because it's like, you know what I'm saying?
Like they say your brain don't develop until you're 25. Right. Like you're making a life altering decision before 18. Before 18.

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It's crazy. I mean, that's just me. But again, I'm not a parent. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't. I don't think I would allow that.
What year did LeBron lose that finals? It was the first one they were there? 2011 against the Mads. I was a sophomore in high school.
Mr. Elliott's English class with Hamilton Merrill. He was from Texas. He took a yeah.

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Shout out to Hammy Hammy. Went to UNC. Great guy. Great guy.
You know, it was a dark time in my life. LeBron lost his second NBA finals. I was a young Mayut.
Personally, I just want to relive something so dark in my past. What was the question?

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What I'm saying is he had just lost the finals and he had to tell Gabrielle Union that he cheated on her and is having a baby by somebody else.
Which one do you feel is harder?
Definitely losing the NBA finals for sure. Like, fuck the wife. Respectfully.
Fuck the wife. After NBA finals loss, it's fuck the wife. Like, get out my face woman. I just lost the NBA finals.

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You do work out. You are committed to it.
You got to remember NBA finals, I just paid your mortgage. That fancy Beamer, Bentley or Maybach, whatever you drive outside.
You don't think Gabrielle had money like that?
Man, she is the devil, if you want me to be honest. Since she came into Dwyane Wade's life, all this crazy stuff in his life started happening.
But that's another story for another day. So, yeah. Next episode.

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What do you think?
What do I think about the... I think it's wild. I think it's just as hard. I mean, it's a rough situation.
You're with your wife, you over here talking about infidelity in your relationship after you just lost the finals. So it's like a double win.
Let's break that question down actually a little bit more. So, you heard what Kyle said, right guys?
Now, losing in front of a million people in your DMs calling you the N-word, you suck, you lost all my money or you go home behind closed doors and you got to say, hey babe, I made a mistake.

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That's a big ass mistake.
That's also a big ass wallet though. So, you know, a big ass mistake can be... did they say Kobe cheated or whatever? RIP to Kobe.
RIP to Kobe. RIP to Kobe. But Vanessa, you know, a couple million dollars later, she fine.
Who else? Anybody else? Leonardo DiCaprio, I'm pretty sure. He got divorced though, so we can't use him.

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Where did he come in? Just rich people that, I guess, messed around with their significant others.
I mean, I think you're implying that the more money you make, you can do whatever you want. No, you can do whatever you want in a relationship.
You have more leeway. If you are the breadwinner, you definitely have more leeway, that's for sure.

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If you're going half and half on random bills, good luck. Good luck, gentlemen.
But now if you know massages, her rampage, her hair done, her nails done.
I think Gabrielle and D-Way's spot, she said that they didn't do that whole, like D-Way was this thing, like she had her money, he had his money.
They both established regardless outside of each other.

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Very true. That is a fact.
That's wild.
I don't know, I think I lose the finals. I think I get more sick to my stomach trying to come home and tell her, hey look, I got a whole other kid.
Absolutely.
Because I can always get the finals next year.
No, you cannot. It is not that easy.
And what happened next year though?

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LeBron carried them to the finals, what happened next year, by the way.
They got two after that.
Thanks to LeBron.
Carried them to the finals though.
Who got finals at BP?
2012 or 2013?
He was the best player on the team, but he didn't carry them to the finals.
He didn't single-handedly just carry them to the finals. That implies that Bosch.
Take off your glasses.

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That's what I'm saying, that implies that Bosch and D-Way did not put up numbers.
That implies they did not put up numbers.
LeBron's great.
Didn't Chris Bosch retire with blood clots or something like that?
That ain't got shit to do with his time.
That's the fact he had to stop because of a medical issue.
LeBron could never, that's all I'm saying.
You see LeBron with blood clots?
No.

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That's crazy.
Wild on you, man.
If D-Way doesn't get hurt, doesn't have a college injury, doesn't have two knee surgeries after or during his NBA appearance, is he better than Kobe?
Does he end up being better than Kobe?
Hell no. Not even a little bit.
Not taking nothing from the wing.
So he's not even close.

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That gap between, so you think he is kind of close.
I think it's a very big possibility that he could be better than Kobe.
I don't know, what part?
He can't shoot, not at all. D-Way could not, had no outside game at all.
His three was lucky, especially pre-LeBron era on my mate.

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LeBron made him a shooter. Just give Bron all the credit for everything.
In his defense, he does make people shoot a lot better.
But it can be a gift and a curse because J.R. Smith, he was a high flyer, get buckets, everything was just a score.
Then he got to Bron's team.
He even got better.

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He won a chip.
He didn't get better, he won a chip.
He started smoking weed, that's what he did.
Does that make him better or worse?
They were both heavily involved in the nightlife in all their cities they went to.
I'm trying to find his three point average.
D-Way, career?
Yeah.
Let me know on that.
I'm sure it's not high, I'm sure it's like 32-ish.

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I wouldn't even say that, honestly.
He said he's shit in the 20s.
Why do you think he's so bad?
He's not bad, he's not bad.
He carried a shack to the finals in what, 2006?
2009-2003.
29% career?
I told you.
29.3%.
It's LeBron's right now.
Higher than that.
Well, LeBron, I know he can shoot.
He can shoot now.

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He couldn't shoot.
He can shoot now.
He definitely can shoot now.
That right hand move he does, looks at it.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
Beautiful stuff.
It's not beautiful.
Scripted.
It's beautiful stuff.
All right, fair enough.
300 million and no rings or five rings and 50 million?
500 million and no rings, guys.
You kidding me?
You kidding me?

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You need to ask the world that question, too.
Generational wealth or a couple pieces of jewelry?
I mean, you're going to go down in NBA history, but at the end of the day, that's not going
to pay your bills or your kids' bills or their kids' bills.
Oh, my great granddad won like five chips, but we broke.
I work in McDonald's, though.
Damn, my granddad didn't win shit, but I haven't worked in 10 years.

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That's a tough question because it's like the competitive nature.
Obviously you go to the league to win a chip.
If you don't win a chip, obviously it kind of messes you up and it makes you feel like
you failed or whatever, but.
You did.
I mean, yeah, but that's like saying like Barclay and them have no career because they didn't
win a chip.
Barclay went to the finals, though, didn't he?
I don't know.
He's the best loser.

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That's what he was.
So that's what I'm saying.
It's just like.
He played Michael, though, so we'll give him some leeway.
Oh, now you respect Michael.
Well, no.
Anybody that played Michael, you know you got to give them a little, because Michael in
the 90s was like fighting Superman almost at that point.
Like, good luck.
No, I mean, I think he took a lot of chips, but I'm just saying like competitive nature.
Like I would take those rings, but it depends.

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Like, like what Gill said, like it depends on your role that you played on that team.
That's what that's exactly what I was going to bring up.
If you have 50 mil, but you have five rings, that means you weren't you weren't even close
to being like, I don't want to be Joanne Howard.
I'm sorry.
Never.
Respectable career, but it's like, you know, I'm saying he was a morale booster.
Never was that guy.
I'm saying like you has never was that guy.

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He was just a really good bench player player.
Like he's known for a baseline jumpers.
Like he doesn't know.
I'm saying so like I don't want to be that guy.
I mean, he has he's living a good life.
But like you said, like generationally, he's going to be forgotten.
So your great grandkids will be like, you don't know who that a disease.

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Yeah, that's a great point.
So at that time, it's not even an argument of competitiveness because we're going to speak on competitiveness.
I mean, you know, you can hold yourself to a higher standard to be better to even try to get that check.
That's 100 mil, right?
I mean, but that's like everybody got their role in the team.
So everybody has to play that role player.
Everybody's the cheerleader.
Everybody's that like, you know, I'm saying you got to fit into that role.

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Or you could pull a Steph Curry, get good enough to where you don't have the money or the rings to where you get the rings.
And then the money follows.
Steph was just shooting threes in the league, won a couple of rings.
Boom. Two hundred million dollar contract under Armour contract generational wealth.
Two rings. Then what? Two more rings later.
It's over now. So rude.

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Talking about Steph only shot three.
He's a very well rounded player.
That is a very well rounded.
Same thing. The Brown.
He's just he's just smaller. He's just smaller.
If you look at statistics, look at the stats, but the same numbers, you give you 29, seven and seven.

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Does he not? Is that not a Lebron step?
I can't believe this blast me in here.
What's the difference?
What do you think? Is that accurate or not? It's outrageous.
Is it is 29, seven and seven out of Lebron step?
No, because you have a triple double before West was doing it.
That's Westbrook for anybody that doesn't know who Russell is.
Yeah, but from the from the season is 29, seven and seven out of Lebron.

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That's the Lucas that it's not a Lebron step.
Lucas Lucas that's like 28, 10 and 10 right now.
What's the Lebron step?
Lebron step probably 55, 20 and 30.
Five, 20 and 30.
That was a Russell Westbrook game step.
It was. Yeah, I believe it.
That's crazy. I mean, you know, stop.

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I can't even keep going.
I got to look at remind you, Lebron's doing that kind of stuff in the NBA Finals, not in no game.
Thirty five of the season like Steph in the NBA Finals.
Look up his he's a choker.
The lights are on. Steph chokes and Bron don't.
How many finals MVP's does Stephen Curry own one?

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Not do I need to continue? How many Lebron? How many rings of stuff have?
You better thank Andre Goddawa from 2015.
So yeah, like he was going against Bron.
Like Andre was not supposed to be able to strap around like that.
He strap around. But Jason Terry did it and Andre Goddawa.
And you're not putting Steph on Bron.

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It doesn't make sense. So it's just like you have to have that role player.
Andre didn't come there to be like, yo, I'm winning MVP this year.
Like he went in there to be like, you know, Andre Goddawa and Jason Terry were strapping Lebron.
Because there was nobody else to strap up.
That's why everybody else was already strapped up because they couldn't play Lebron.
They played their role and that's not good enough.

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They need to be better than their role. Lebron needs more than that.
It won him an MVP.
Like what are you talking about?
Yeah, honestly.
Lebron averages 27, 7 to 7.
How about say what did Lebron average on Andre Goddawa?
That's his career stats. 27, 7 to 7.
Yeah, I'm just two points off.
I think you're on the wrong site. You need to look at a different site.
You're trying to say hosted by Gregory Graham.

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That site sounds plagiarized or something.
Check your sources.
Last year, Curry was 29, 6 and 6.
That's definitely less than what you were saying. So less than.
I said 26, 7 and 6.
I said 29, 7 and 7.
It's like step doesn't got it, guys.
Oh my gosh.
IQ wise, if you're talking about Lebron's IQ, absolutely.

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He is way above average.
The only thing I have at Curry is athleticism and IQ.
IQ, gene pool, athleticism, life, body, everything about him.
I didn't bring my knee pads, by the way, guys, but they're outside the car.
I can't stand it.
It sounds like you're wearing them.
Fair enough. Mel, what time are you at?

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20.
20 minutes.
So we're talking about the amount of times he went to the chip.
Nine times in a row?
Is 11 total or 10 total?
11 total, 10 in a row.
10 in a row?
I mean, come on, guys.
Is that impressive?
We will never see that again.
Is that impressive?

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Lord have mercy. I'm asking. I'm just saying.
I have my opinion on it, but you know what I'm saying?
Read out what your opinion is.
My opinion is it's impressive, yes, but I don't think it should be a statistic that somebody counts to be like,
yeah, he went to the chip 10 times in a row.
How many times did he win?
How many times did you go to the chip and actually win?

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Granted, he was the star player of that time, but if you only won four times, then you won four times.
You got four chips.
The fact that you went there 10 times in a row, I mean, I'm not in the NBA, but I'm sure it's a crazy process.
You got to do everything you got to do, but at the same time, you ain't got no chips.
You got four.
I'm going to break this down in 15 seconds.
That's just that you should talk about.

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15 seconds.
Time, go.
Time email, please.
So Michael, when he was going to the chip, what, six times in a row?
Was that what it was, six times in a row?
Or three and three?
He took a little year off, played baseball.
LeBron would never, by the way.
Two years.
Okay, even worse.
Which is another argument.
Technically, he could have eight chips.
He was still in his prom during those two years.

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But his, my daddy died, my pussy hurts.
Bruh.
I mean, come on, LeBron would never.
LeBron's son had a heart attack a couple of days ago.
And what LeBron do?
Got in the gym the next day.
You know, some people just build different, you know.
But anyways, back to LeBron and Mike.
Had Michael ever seen a, let's go down the list, a Kevin Durant, a Stephen Curry, a Clay Thompson?

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I mean, who else did he play in the finals?
A Dirk Nowinski?
Mike wasn't playing people like that.
He was playing mailman, Karl Malone, John Stockton, who can't shoot all he can do is pass the ball.
I mean, you said Clyde Drexler, Charles Barkley.
Who are these people?
Yeah, the Hall of Famers.
Greats of that generation.
Charles Barkley talks about doughnuts on TV all day.
Yeah, he's washed now.

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Yeah, he's washed now, but Charles Barkley was him.
You asked LeBron what he's doing 10 years from now, he's probably still dribbling the ball somewhere down the road, man.
Yes.
You can't get mad at somebody for the generation they played in.
The talent was just way better.
The talent was better.
And I mean, mind you, they're literally trying to kill LeBron out there.
They're holding him by the waist, per foul.

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Michael, he's one step back.
They're falling on the ground.
Act like Michael was some great handler of the ball, which he wasn't that great.
He just could jump out the gym.
If you go look up his highlights, by the way, look at his highlights, look at his highlights.
His handles weren't that great.
He was just jumping out the gym on people who couldn't jump because they weren't athletic enough for the comp.

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So I mean, so Michael's trash.
No, no, no, no.
Michael's competition was trash.
LeBron's competition was pretty much Michael's all over the place.
Kevin Durant and Michael right in their prime.
They're probably tied.
They could actually play ball back then.
And Kevin Durant can't?
No, I mean, no, he's a specimen.
That's a whole different thing.
I'm saying like the game of basketball has evolved.

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It's different.
Like there's mad athletic people that can't play ball.
You dribble, you make it.
You shoot, dunk.
Sounds the same to me.
Sounds the same.
The concept, like the concept of basketball.
Like when it comes to the IQ, like there's mad people who can jump out the gym.
Mad people can do 360 windmills, but they can't.
Who?
Like everybody can dunk now.

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Like there's literally not, there's seventh graders windmilling and layup lines.
That doesn't make you a basketball player.
People in Michael's age would put salt in their shoes so they could go to basketball tryouts.
Salt?
Isn't that a story Michael did?
He put salt in his shoes to grow extra two inches or something like that?
Where the fuck did he put salt in his shoes?
Ask Michael Jordan.
I don't know.
Wear multiple pair of socks.
I don't know.

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What are you talking about?
I'm pretty sure the story goes Michael put like salt in his shoes.
He grew two inches the next day, made the team finally.
Something like that.
The story goes.
You think he grew two inches off salt?
That's what they say.
You can look that up.
That's actually a fact.
That's actually a fact.
That's a fact.
Michael poured salt in his shoes.
He didn't make his JV team one year.
The next year he put salt in his shoes.
He grew two inches.

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I think that's just his theory.
That goes back to genetics.
I don't think the salt did anything.
That's a great statement she just made there, genetics.
If we're talking about the genetics, like we said, if you put Kevin Durant in 1994, right
now, right now in the Phoenix Suns, Kevin Durant 1994 against Michael in the finals.
Oh my gosh, Kevin might put up a hundred.

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No, because you got Scottie.
Who is that?
I used to agree.
The guy who's getting pimped out by Future?
Shit.
I mean, the guy who couldn't make it to the finals without Michael, the guy who was begging
for Michael on TV, pointing at his shoes.
So you got to remember these people without Michael were nothing.
Without LeBron, there's no NBA.

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Basically, no NBA.
I mean, the views were down as soon as LeBron got eliminated last year.
They said that was the worst finals viewing in years.
What was the Nuggets and who?
That game was just trash.
Now, it probably would have been higher if it was the Celtics and the Nuggets.
Yeah, LeBron pretty much is carrying the entirety of the NBA on his shoulders for the past 55

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years.
And the man hasn't been alive.
I think with the help of Steph.
That's why the Warriors got the most televised games right now.
They're just fun to watch.
Steph is just fun to watch because he's throwing that thing up from full court.
So what sells tickets?
Competition.
Competition.
And Michael had none of that.
Right back to it.
That's crazy.
I don't understand.

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I mean, it's a business at the end of the day.
So it is who sells the most tickets.
And Bron is the face of the NBA.
Unfortunately.
But unfortunately?
For them.
Not for me.
No, no.
But his talent backs up the reason why he's facing the NBA.

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But I don't know, you're saying some wild stuff now.
It's really unfortunate because if you really just take away the 2011 or 2015 blemishes
off LeBron's career, he's probably the greatest of all time.
Why do you take it away?
I say, yeah, LeBron didn't show up in 2011, but look at Chris Bosh and D. Wade's stats

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of the 2011 finals.
Oh my God, you would have thought they just played basketball for the first time that
night.
So it's the first time it was the first year the team was together.
That's not an excuse for me.
2015.
I don't know what you want to say.
He took a high school basketball team to the NBA finals.
Kevin loves my shoulder.
Kyrie, my knee.
I mean, and then who you got next?

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What?
Matthew Delanova, who is that?
Where is he at nowadays?
Cleaning floors at high schools?
No, is he on the Kings right now?
I think he's on the Kings.
I think he was.
I don't know if he is this year.
Oh, he's our water boy.
Oh, okay.
No, he's still got a job.
But he was guarding Steph.
His job was guarding Steph.
He played his role and he didn't.

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I was about to say.
He played his role.
Steph had a few hundred highlights on Matthew Delanova that finals, if I'm not mistaken,
had the one where he had him at the wing of the three brought him back.
Matt couldn't recover in time.
So, if you're a superstar, if you're the caliber of Durant, Bron, Steph, like these caliber

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players, we were talking about this before.
It's not about you're not going to get stopped, period.
No one's going to stop you, but it's to contain you.
Like if you go to Durant, you'd be like, yo, he cannot have 35 tonight.
So if he has 20 or 25, that's a good game for the defender.
You're not going to stop Durant.
So that's what I'm saying.
So Delanova was not made to stop Steph.

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Andre wasn't made to stop LeBron.
He was made to clean floors.
No.
He was there to do his job and they did their job.
I don't think he did because if they would have done their job, they would have won that
motherfucker.
But they let LeBron down that year.
And you saw what happened when Kevin Love and Kyrie are showing up and doing their job.
What happened the next year, LeBron comes back from a 3-1 deficit.

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I mean, come on.
LeBron himself.
I mean, was he not the...
What did Klay Thompson say after they won a game?
What was it?
Four?
Oh, I think we heard LeBron's feelings.
Three in a row got him out the way.
I mean, Draymond was the heart of that team and he wasn't playing.
Everybody heard that.
He said Draymond was the heart of that team.

(26:20):
Draymond is the heart of the board.
That man is drinking wine on Twitter every day and he was the heart of the Warriors.
He is the heart of the Warriors.
So when he was playing with Steph that whole year and Klay was gone, they didn't make the
playoffs.
Where was the heart of the Warriors then?
It was still there.
Pump it like a mug, wasn't it?
The heart was pumping straws.
Oh my goodness.

(26:40):
I was just saying, that's wild saying that he's not a main character of that team.
He's a big guy.
He's a big guy.
I could say you could put another person who's as tall as Draymond, like Mooney.
You could move Mooney to Draymond's spot, ship Draymond off somewhere years ago.

(27:03):
Not now, but years ago before they won their fourth and they would have still won that
fourth whatever year that was without Draymond.
I don't think so.
No.
All Draymond does is kick people and get texts.
He cheats.
No.
So majority of their games Draymond actually, you could consider him the point guard.
Just the way he's able to put...
He brings the ball to court.
Yeah, the way he's able to put Steph and Clay in certain positions and get it to them where

(27:25):
they need to.
Now, did he always make the right decision?
No.
No, he didn't.
But like...
He knows when to get the ball to Steph and Clay.
That is very factual.
Yeah.
But a lot of people could watch a couple of film sessions with Steve Kerr and they will
also know when to get the ball or they'll be fired.
But they haven't.
Because Draymond's been there lying and cheating and kicking and stealing.
They're still the championship contending team this year.

(27:49):
Yeah, especially now.
So 100%, I would be like, yo, they could probably...
They would be my favorites if they signed Dwight Howard.
They didn't?
From China?
They didn't.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't understand why not.
Yeah.
Dwight Howard ain't crazy.
He's in Taiwan right now, right?
I don't see why that fell through.
But if they would have got Dwight Howard, that would have been crazy.

(28:10):
It would have been a change.
But you got Chris Paul running points.
Who did Dwight Howard win his last ring with?
Oh yeah, LeBron, by the way, if you didn't know.
And Dwight Howard was not...
So it sounds like LeBron carried another sad soul to a ring.
Nobody said that LeBron is not the best player.
That's what Anthony Aves actually wanted to play.
Start off with you, Kyle.
If LeBron came before Jordan, will we be having the same discussions that we're having today?

(28:34):
I think...
I got an interesting take, I guess.
I mean, I think it would be possible because if Mike had that determination that he does,
automatic, and he sees the fact that LeBron is him, I think he would probably attack it.
I think he'd still be a name.
He'd be like a Kobe-esque type situation.

(28:54):
But it still wouldn't be neck and neck.
Because Kobe's not...
I mean, Kobe's neck and neck...
Oh, that's a tough one.
He's neck and neck with Jordan, but at the same time, you know Jordan is...
He's a carbon copy, yeah.
He's not in the conversation.
That's what it is.
It's Michael and LeBron.
Kobe's just...
He's not in the conversation.
He's not.
Because when you're on the street, people are always like, but what about Kobe?
Because he's not in the conversation.
But he is in the conversation.
If you say, what about Kobe?

(29:15):
No, they're trying to throw him into the conversation.
He missed the buck.
Okay.
I want to throw Kevin Durant in there real quick.
So let's say Kevin Durant...
So let's say LeBron came first.
Kevin Durant linked up with the best defender in Kauai for the last decade or so.
And he got with the best rebounder, which would be Andre Drummiff right now.
And they went on to win six straight NBA finals.

(29:36):
Would we be saying Kevin Durant is in that go conversation with LeBron?
Unfortunately he'd probably be better with today's statistics because he has more rings
to get.
You go to the league to win the championship.
But if you ask De'Arend Fox and Alexander on the OKC, what have they done since they've

(29:58):
been in the league except get max contracts?
But I don't think there would be no Bron without Mike at the same time.
Because you have to...
Back to competitive nature, you want to be the best.
Some people do.
But Bron did a lot of things because Mike did it already.

(30:19):
And so I think it would be the same thing.
The rules would just be reversed.
Because Bron wasn't chasing Mike, but at the same time he's like, oh, Mike got this many
points, I'm going to get this many points.
Mike got this, I'm going to get this.
He wants to be the best.
Where you get that information from?
Y'all don't think Bron looking for seven rings?
He's looking for five for sure.
He's going to get it.
But I'm saying you don't think he looking for seven rings?

(30:41):
I doubt it.
I think he definitely want to pass Kobe at least or tie with Kobe.
I think that was Kobe's mentality.
I don't know if that's LeBron's mentality.
Kobe definitely wanted to pass Mike.
But LeBron, he just wants to get his team involved, as he says.
He's not a scorer.
That's what LeBron says every time he's in it.
Which is the frustrating...
I don't like to score.
I'm more of a passer.
Which is the frustrating thing because he's accurate.
He doesn't...
He'd rather have 20 assists, but he just ends up having 40 points too.

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So it's very frustrating.
So if you put LeBron in Michael's era, what, fresh out of high school, what was he like?
26-6, fresh out of high school.
He was a tight end for football.
So I mean, Michael was what a soaking wet 180.
I mean, oh my gosh, they're going to push Michael down in today's game.

(31:23):
No.
Today's game is more physical than last...
Okay, so that Chet guy on OKC, very skinny, right?
Very small.
Well, he got hurt during summer league because he didn't have enough weight on his body.
They said something happened with his knee or something like that.
I think he was going against LeBron.
He was in a pick up.
He was going to pick up.
See?
So you see what I'm saying?
I mean, but you can't...

(31:44):
I don't know.
We had this conversation before.
You can't take away genetics.
You can't say Shaq's trash because he's seven foot.
If he wasn't seven foot, like you got to...
He was naturally given that.
You can't say that.
Well, if this...
I mean, you can't say if.
He has it.
But his sons do too.
And look at them.
Garbage.
Shaq's sons.
One had a heart murmur and almost died on us.

(32:05):
Why do you keep bringing up health issues?
You know, because genetics really go real down.
You know, your DNA is...
If you got it, you got it.
But Sharif's still good.
He's a great basketball player.
LSC will shout him out every now and again.
Yeah, they will.
He's a great basketball player.
Like if he has a heart murmur, it don't mean he's trash.

(32:27):
Definitely doesn't mean he's good, though, either.
So he's a good player.
He's all right.
Who's good to you besides LeBron?
Give me a list of five people.
Bronnie Jr.
Don't say Bronnie.
Don't say...
Bryce James.
Savannah James.
Bryce.
Savannah.

(32:48):
Zari.
What's the daughter's name?
I don't even know her daughter's name.
Zari, I think.
Yeah.
Now, out of the Bron family, out of the James family, give me other players who's actually
a good player.
Five active NBA players that are great.
I'll give Steph.
I'll give it to Steph.
You know, Steph's good TV.
You know, you turn on TV, you're watching that all day.

(33:12):
As much as I don't want to, I will say Kevin Durant.
As much as I don't want to, we're at three or is that two?
It's two.
Outside of Bron.
So not without Bron.
I'm looking for your third, yeah.
OK, so Paul George and Kawhi lost it.
They can't get that.
Russ can no longer get it either.

(33:34):
Especially Kawhi.
He lost it.
He don't play basketball.
They don't play.
But that's the thing.
When he does play, he's a top six NBA player.
When he does play.
Who, Kawhi or Paul?
Kawhi.
Paul George, he's top 12.
Top six NBA players.
Top 13.
Maybe top 15.
You might be stretching at 15, not 12.
You do got seven surgeries, though.

(33:55):
Don't play Paul George.
That is wild.
I said he had six in one time.
I said, yeah, don't play Paul George.
Six surgeries at one time.
That one-jump ball.
That leg injury when the bone was sticking out.
Oh, when you broke it and snapped it.
The Kevin Ware injuries, what they were calling it.
Yeah.
So you got Bron, you got Steph, you got Kevin Durant.

(34:18):
It shouldn't be this hard.
And that's the sad part.
That's the sad part.
All right, so you got Giannis, you got Jokic.
No, we'll get.
You got Embiid.
Embiid.
What did Giannis say the other day?
He's a winner.
He's a winner.
And if the Bucs can't provide that for him, he will go somewhere else.
Ain't nothing wrong with that.
You got Dane, you got Luca.

(34:39):
I'll go Giannis.
I'll go Giannis.
Is that your third?
He's a winner.
He's a winner.
Athletic Chief Keith has John Moran.
No, you got to know.
John Moran belongs to the jail cell.
Head lich.
John Moran has a few personal problems he needs to get through before we can put him
on any list, besides the most wanted list.
Let me see.
Luca for sure.
I'll give it to Luca.

(35:00):
Why are you questioning it?
Why does it take you so long?
Because that's how trash the league is on LeBron.
When LeBron leaves, I leave.
That's just what's going to happen.
I probably will stop watching basketball, honestly, when LeBron retires.
So it's just like NFL is the luckiest here for me, and I'll probably pick up baseball.
Maybe soccer.
I mean, it's...
Giannis had what?
One good year?
One good year.
Giannis had a good year.
He had a good year.
He had a good year.
He had a good year.
He had a good year.
He had a good year.
He had a good year.
He had a good year.
He had a good year.

(35:27):
Giannis had a good year every year.
Just won a championship one year.
Giannis is the only one who won a championship by himself.
Yeah.
Ever.
To win a championship by himself.
Ever.
Nope.
2016 LeBron is by himself, and we're going to tell you why, because Kyrie only had 42
points in game six.
The rest of the series...
Only 42 points.
Okay, that dagger three in game seven.
He did.
Yeah, and that dagger game three on Steph's head in game seven, good shot, Kyrie.

(35:52):
What has Kyrie done since then, besides get on Twitter?
Exactly.
Hold on, I was going to say, Kyrie, hold on.
He had like 29.
29?
What are you talking about?
That's not good enough.
I can count 29 in two seconds.
He might not have won a lot since then, but statistically that boy will put up 30, 35,
40 on any given night.
The Celtics, he was wasting my eyesight looking at that.

(36:13):
South was different.
That was...
I forgot what he was talking about after that.
The Mavs?
No, Celtics, Nets, Mavs.
Oh, I forgot about the Nets.
That's how bad he was on the other board.
He didn't play basketball on the Nets.
He didn't play.
Yeah.
Well, that cover year he didn't play, yeah.
He wanted to travel the world and shit.
So.
I mean, the Nets is a curse.
Everybody play on the Nets.
It don't work.
Bull.
Besides KD, but he still stopped playing too, so.

(36:34):
They went to the Nets.
They were going to win two rings in a row.
But no, I'm just saying, like, Giannis, like, the league's way more talented now.
Exactly.
It's way more talented.
It took you 14 minutes to try to figure out five good players.
So it goes back to the point.
If you switch those errors and LeBron's known as the GOAT until Jordan comes into the 2003,

(36:55):
that year 2003, and because the league is what it is now, what do you have?
What he had even been able to get six rings in this era of basketball?
No, not even a little bit.
I think it could be.
Fuck no.
So it depends on what team he's on and who he's with.
Depending on, yeah.
If he can drive to the Warriors, hell yeah.
But if he doesn't get to the Warriors, no, not even a little bit.
Well, if he can drive to the Warriors, Steph doesn't become Steph.
True.
Ain't no way.
I mean, he's not touching the ball at all.

(37:15):
True.
True.
Because his shooting guard will be Michael Jordan.
So.
No, I think there's only a few generational players that can actually play in multiple
generations.
Like, Bron is one of those.
Scotty is one of those.
Mike's one of those.
These are people that can actually play in multiple generations.
But Tim Duncan.
Tim Duncan.
Like.
Fuck no.

(37:36):
He was boring his whole life and he was the best powerful.
That bisexual karate ass nigga.
That's my favorite player.
That tells you a lot about our camera guy.
You need to watch out for the camera guy.
Anyways.
I'm just saying, but those are people who can play in like cross generations.

(37:57):
But like.
Might as well put Mano Janobli on the damn list.
Tony Parker too then, huh?
Like I forgot Tim Duncan had a squad.
What, he had David Robinson with him too for two years?
I don't know.
He had a general.
But the only person who was expected to do anything was Tim Duncan.
Other than David Robinson.
They didn't Mano Janobli invent the Euro step?
Yeah, but it wasn't even.

(38:20):
He was not a top pick.
He wasn't.
He didn't go to the league being like, yo, Mano's going to be him.
Like.
They never thought Mano was going to be at Hall of Famer.
You know, you didn't think Tony Parker was going to be at Hall of Famer.
Because they were from different countries most likely.
Is that why you say that?
The league is ran by different countries.
By other countries.
Now it is.
Then it was just ran by blacks.
No racism intended.

(38:40):
I am black.
You can't say.
I'm just saying.
No, you can't.
You can't say he was stacked.
He became stacked.
That's a pop thing.
Pop coaching would be that.
So I hope Wimby, I can't pronounce his name.
I hope he has a good career.
I mean, I feel like just like Chet.
I mean, I'm.
He's like a bowl bowl Chet and Wimby are on the same.

(39:06):
I'm not going to say the last one, 10 tall guys that were good dribble.
They have.
They have.
Automaker.
Hey, that's my man.
Oh, you said bowl bowl.
Yeah, my bomba.
When Chet.
We haven't seen that one highlight from any of these guys yet.
I remember.
And like the automaker, like playing overseas.
Yeah, he might come back.
He might make it go.
I think once you go over there, once you've been in the NBA and then you go over there.

(39:31):
It's kind of like.
Yeah, it's over with.
So you think Spurs wasted their number one draft pick?
No, no, no.
OK, because behind them was Miller and Scoop.
I feel like Scoot, Henderson is going to be good.
Scoot's going to sell.
We're talking about this last week.
Scoot.
Scoot.
The Portland Trailblazers are going to be in the same Portland Trailblazers they were
when Dame and Lamarcus Aldridge.
Lamarcus Aldridge.
They're going to maybe hit the Western Conference once and then it's a whole other highlight

(39:53):
of Dame and now Scoot.
You know what I mean?
I think he's going to be a huge Lamarcus Aldridge fan too.
Yeah, Lamarcus.
Yeah, he's just a Tim Duncan 2.0.
Just as boring.
Don't do nothing.
Tim Duncan really couldn't shoot.
He was more of a turn around, lay it off the glass.
Lamarcus would give you that.
Tim Duncan invented the backboard.
He invented the bank shot.
The most boring player.

(40:15):
And the bank's not open on Sunday.
So if you're using the bank more than three times a week in a game.
I mean, he's not fun to watch.
I would never say I want to watch Tim Duncan.
But he is arguably the greatest power forward ever.
Yeah, which is why you fit the Spurs so well, because they're not fun to watch at all.
That's where Kawhi was birthed.

(40:36):
Which is why he's also not fun to watch.
He's boring.
That's what we were just saying.
So that brings me to my next point too is we put a poll up on YouTube.
Who's the better scorer, Paul George or Kawhi?
And current, I think it was when I looked last, I was like 73% have Kawhi as the better
scorer.
It's not fun to watch, but he will give you 40, 45 and he'll probably shoot 16 out of

(40:59):
18.
How many guns did Dave Robinson have?
Two, two.
Two, yeah.
Isn't he like the only NBA player with a quadruple double or some shit like that?
Something stupid like that.
Yeah.
And Tim Duncan's better than him?
Dave Robinson was the center.
Is that a power forward?
Twin Towers.
Twin Towers, baby.
Is that what they call themselves?
Yeah.
You hate basketball.
But back to Kawhi, when it came to the fact that you said he don't play.

(41:30):
He's injured.
No, I understand why people.
That's load management.
That's not load management, bro.
Come on now.
He's a tourmaniscus.
He hasn't played in five years.
Well, that's accurate, but when he does play.
But I mean, he does have, he has an injury, like a known injury and he played on that
injury and what he had 35 the game before he left?

(41:50):
I was gonna say in that, yeah, he's played two of the three playoff games or maybe it
was three and a half, maybe three.
Either way, but he had like 38, 42, something else.
I think they won the first one.
Yeah.
And it's crazy because it's like, you can't, it sucks, but like you're only a basketball
player for this long.
Like if somebody cares about their health more than they do care about like winning,

(42:12):
I'm not mad at them.
I don't know.
Like obviously I want to see them play.
And I think that Kawhi and Paul George is a crazy combo, but it's just like at the same
time, if you want to like make sure his health and he can actually walk after he leave, you
know what I'm saying?
Like I'm not mad at him.
And you know, shout out exceptional man.
Me and him were just having this conversation the other day.

(42:32):
Like you just said, your professional playing window is only this big.
So they just don't want it like they used to.
Dion Sanders has what?
Eight toes now.
And this is just a professional athlete who put their health on the back burner to succeed
in life, to succeed in life.
So a man has eight toes now because he wanted it.

(42:53):
He wanted it.
He wanted to take pictures on Instagram.
I'm not losing my toes.
So, you know, it doesn't matter if you want to win or do you want to sit on the sideline
and, you know, put your necklaces on that you, you know, game check bought you last
week.
You earned it.
You deserve it.
You know, that's your name on that check.
You know, you worked hard throughout your life to get there.
But now that you're here and doing that, you know, but let's take a picture.

(43:17):
Let's look up after the game.
Let's make sure we get these Louie drips.
Make sure I'll tag me on IG.
I mean, it's a social media world now.
Social media wasn't around back then.
So you're saying Kawaii supposed to play through a tour meniscus?
Oh, no, he's not supposed to play through a tour meniscus, but I'm pretty sure Brian
Robinson on the Washington football team got shot twice last year in D.C. in a robbery
attempt and he's back on the football field getting hit in his legs and Kawaii still sit

(43:41):
on the damn bench because his knee hurt.
Have you ever had a knee injury?
Have you ever been shot twice?
No.
I'm just saying, I think people get going too much on Kawaii's injury saying that he's
not hurt and he's acting like he's just sitting out.

(44:02):
I mean, I'm pretty sure I saw him on the sideline of some women's basketball game or some game
that's not he didn't have to play in, but he was there attending standing perfectly
fine in his new cactus Jack Jordan ones from Travis Scott autographed signed on the left
side.
Jeez, that's a lot of hate.
That's a lot of drip that he got on that he loves to wear outside.

(44:25):
But you know, this game that he loves so much or, you know, his dad made him love so much.
His late father, RIP to that man, you know, just doesn't want to play anymore, I guess.
I respect it.
Him and Paul Nisga sucks, bro.
It hurts.
So I had to say who's the better scorer, PG or Kawaii?
I'll give it to Paul George.

(44:45):
I want to say Paul George.
You see, you don't remember those patients days?
I mean him and Roy Hibbert, the trash can.
Like, oh, you think now?
I said, why?
Why?
Why?
Because he was once a spur.
He's a better all around.
I just feel like he has better defense.
He's a better all around.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

(45:11):
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
So I'm going to go with Kawaii too, but I'm only going with Kawaii for efficiency because
I've seen Paul George go three for 20 one time.
Kawaii will give you a good consistency.
Just like Kevin Durant will give you good consistency every night.
So who has the most career high points between Kawaii and Paul George?

(45:31):
They both probably low they don't play enough
Speaking of career, I know one will ever beat LeBron's career high of what 64
points total points oh
career
Never gonna be he said he wants to hit 40 before your time
I mean, that's not gonna be beaten regardless unless like they average like they add a four-point shot or something like that because

(45:54):
He came in when he was 12
Just
27 points and that's another great point about LeBron Michael went to UNC for what two three years?
LeBron came straight out of damn. Mr. Gordon's English class or history class
You know, he's dang near
If you put me 18 years old in any professional setting, oh my god, I'd be on teams every week

(46:20):
This only says it's
1224 updated says Paul George has 16,000 points only and quiet as 12. I told you they don't play that much that it's that low
Cuz kawaii is a deep and I look up their blocks kawaii probably has a thousand blocks
Yeah, and look up steals and all that. I'm telling you quiet. He was a defender before he was a scorer. You gotta look up
Forgot that feels are

(46:42):
All George has more steals
Has more
assists when you when you think of Paul George you gotta remember the games mm-hmm Paul George has about
170 more games you gotta remember when LeBron was on the heat going to the conference finals
It was Paul George. He had to go through every year and Roy Hibbert and a jet team maybe or whoever man Lance

(47:04):
Come on, Lance Stevenson stop it career-wise about the same player though. I mean as a blaring Chinese as we speak
We have a win. Lance. How long Lance been out of the league?
in China right now saying anyhow
I'm just saying like I just think that like
Kawaii the two-way out two-way basketball is more like it's better for me like more important

(47:27):
Yeah, like a two-way play. That's what Jordan was and both of my two-way players Jordan to a player
All right
I'm popular opinion the brown don't play defense. Not anymore. No, I never he the taste. I know he's a great
No, well, he's not a great on-ball defender not a home ball

(47:50):
It's an excellent transition defender and you only plays defense when it matters
That's that's the only time you need to play defense because it don't matter don't waste your energy
But I'm just saying that on-ball defense I wouldn't put LeBron as a two-way defender. He's a transition defender. Sure. I
Mean cuz he jumps from the three-point line. It just waits for you

(48:12):
Only better different I can think better than LeBron is probably honest right now just cuz his arms are 10 feet long
So there's no lay there's no arc shot over Yanis cuz my second
He touches on these. Yeah, he's literally knocking that out. Yeah, and he's not a perimeter defender though
He's not a perimeter. He's been fucked up a few times when I 3.9 Paul George
His lady when when LeBron got Birdman embarrassed

(48:32):
Mmm, the brown was guarding him Paul George first. No, I just put that dunk of their day. It was so
But Paul George on the Pacers was a problem. Yeah, oh PG-13. Oh, yeah PG-13 was his nickname. Yeah
That's why I think Paul there's a better score. I think he's a he's more flashy score. He's one of the most smooths of scores
I mean, yeah back in the Pacer days and they said he's gonna be the

(48:55):
Good clip of highlights
Both you watch tonight
Brons just better LeBron is better. But like it's like you you can't
Like I don't think nobody is in the league saying they better than a brown

(49:18):
I
Love browns, Jalen Brown thinks he's brother LeBron. We need to talk to that young man
He's mature. He's got a mature man. He probably did I wouldn't think he definitely did
I know he hates being a second option on the side. I don't feel LeBron LeBron just like me. No, he's not
Yes, but it draws on the same way Brown is better than him in every aspect of world
If we put God in front of the best player on his own team exactly. I know that's why I say he hates being the second option

(49:44):
I'm sure
But he might go down as one of those people who don't win a chip and have a 400 million dollar contract
Good for his family, but if he does then Jason Tatum will too. I think Jason would chip not on the Celtics
Didn't get rid of market smart. Yeah, they did do that. They did get poor Zegas. Yeah poor Zegas is crazy
I don't care. Nobody says Chris stops

(50:05):
He's had a he's had a consistent career. He's nice when he's not healthy. We have a bag. Oh, that's what I'm saying
Are you did he team up with Luca for a little bit and didn't get away right? But again injury
Yeah, you got injured. What about the Knicks then you got in? She was oh my lord

(50:26):
I mean people again
You can't disrespect him right he's a stretch for yeah
Yes, so you just stretch for he plays D
He can handle the ball a little bit like he can control the ball can't walk without a cane
He's a walker at the house

(50:47):
But when you put him on those teams when he was on the Knicks, he was that guy
He was the guy and when you put him on the Mavericks, he's supposed to be the guy when you put him on the Celtics
He's not the guy like he's literally
Chilling he's Bradley bill in the Suns not that you're trashed
You just you're another option that people can just you have to you have to focus on
Bradley feels about to put work for the Suns

(51:08):
That's what I'm saying that he does about to become a two-way player because he's a third
He's a third option and he's a number one scorer on any other team
So it's like and you can't triple team everybody like so Bradley bill probably is probably average the most on the team
Oh, isn't Kevin the rest of the Suns? Yeah, but you have to double team
I think I think goes Booker bill Kevin
Yeah, because Kevin only she's oh, that's the lineup if they don't win a ring this year. I'm sorry Kevin Durant

(51:32):
So I'm gonna fall down
They don't have they still you know, I'm getting a team around them. They still need a bench
Just know Kevin Durant will fall down on the list if he doesn't get to the Western Conference finals this year for sure
Underwear probably not even top ten in the league. Sheesh. Why how name nine other players?
He just went from what has Kevin been doing these past what three teens?

(51:53):
He's after he's left the Thunder. I will what does he mean? I left the Thunder. Yeah, what's he been doing since then?
I'm waiting. Okay, then we got injured in play the first year at the Nets the second season
He came bar third season technically second and a half season came back
He averaged the most in points that he's ever averaged in his whole career
So he only climbed up was the leading scorer in the league and to have to turn went on that damn tear

(52:15):
Yep. Yep
They got injured again sat out from what January to damn near May came back for three games of the Suns put 30 30 30
They're gonna again that's for
Can't let you you can't say like it so he went to the Warriors cheated after the best he went to the
73-9 awards when he left the Thunder cheated

(52:38):
Cheated where this cheated that's like LeBron leaving the Cavs that year and going to the Warriors. There's it just been unfair to the world
It's not cheating. It's definitely I respected because he went on a team with Steph Clay
Dre mine Iggy and became the best player on the best team. Okay, I'm and won the NBA fine. Imagine it's
2001
It's 2001 right now and I throw all three of you a Glock nine and I send you to Afghanistan

(53:05):
Just happened and your competition is an AK 47 that is what the rest of the league was looking like against
That analogy is crazy
No, you didn't hear CJ McCullough when he said Kevin Durant went to the war it was over it was over for us the league
I mean everybody knew that it was over but it's like but if he if

(53:26):
Dries only person stopping him to by the way, who's the only person matching up against them those years? Was it LeBron?
Right. Well, okay
So the only scene actually lost to when Kevin Durant was there was the Raptors because they have clay and they have Kevin Durant
Mmm, you you want other people who don't like clay, huh? Probably say clay stretch clay
Clay the good pure shooter. I

(53:48):
He's a one-and-a-half way
He straps against cook there's no between them that's what happened to guard the best play every game. Yeah, it's true
No, yeah, Kevin Durant doesn't win anything this year or out night that if he doesn't make to Western Conference finals
He's not top five. Okay, let's say cuz that's that the whole team is actually injury prone Kevin Bo and fucking Booker

(54:08):
Is Booker injury prone?
He's had a couple of injuries
He has a knock they had when they got together was one
Okay
First it was this is the best mid-range team we've ever seen and I too can they stay healthy because Booker has injuries and Kevin Durant
Yeah, but I said because of the more like the final Chris Paul though
Yeah, that was what 2020 Chris Paul pisses me off Chris

(54:30):
He's my he's got no stop it
Warriors to yes, but yeah garbage, but not even a little bit. Not even what you got treated there. He got treated
I'm not saying he didn't mention a
Shouldn't assign the paperwork like I don't know. He is not probably so excited to sign that paperwork when he got traded to the word

(54:53):
I don't know if he was I don't like Draymond
Yeah, but but he's a winner he just won't win I think it's better than they're not gonna do a Chris over there
Yeah, he said what he's not gonna do any of that with Chris over there. I'll tell you that
No, who won't lawyers Chris?
I think I'll Chris gonna start at he's a point guard
That's a play to not a point. So where's Clay gonna go?
He's six eight, bro

(55:15):
With a bad leg six seven the bad leg
But they play so well
The bad leg but they play small ball
That's why I needed to white Howard. That's why they needed to white out
I'm mad to bell McGee didn't come back either. Hear that Dwight Howard come back to America. They need you
I think he had a trial. It just didn't go through and like three trials three workout sessions. Mm-hmm, but no, I'm just saying

(55:40):
I'm just saying Chris Paul is far from trash
And I think it'll run well
I think the only thing the only thing I kind of messed it up is the fact that like I want to see the dynamic between
him and
Draymond who's gonna be the
Draymond gonna be the point forward as a tough one. His Draymond needs that ball
You know if you're money that ball in order for it to work out for Steph and play Chris Paul

(56:03):
I mean he can get it. He knows how to get people in spots, but it's but he's a
He's a set player like he needs a second. He likes to slow the game down. He is
Because he's a true point guard though. He's a true point guard. So from what I heard so
Dude does the NBA need true point guards anymore? No, there you go
There you go. That's your point. What is a true point guard? Ray John Ron? Rajon Rondo Chris Paul?

(56:25):
So niggas that can't shoot well Chris Paul
Chris Chris Paul has a good media. All right three a lucky three. I would like to call it
Yeah, that's the second time I heard it today. Ray John Rondo though cut it out. That is not he's a point guard. I'm saying he's a true point guard. He's not shooting shit
I wouldn't ask him to shoot but he's an NBA he can knock down a three but no he can not

(56:50):
So the league is run by point forwards or shooting points
Shooting shooting shooting points
Scoring points. Yeah, can John not a point guard either?
No, no he's not. Yeah he's a felon. That's what he is. He's a criminal
De'Aaron Fox might be actually like a hybrid
Like a Steph? Yeah, I think he can play point

(57:14):
I think he can actually like really play the point and actually get busy
But if you give him any type of space he's faster than everybody he gonna give you 40
Wow, now you think about Chris Paul is the only point guard. He's the real point guard. He's the only one in the league right now
Who else? No one
No one. So Bucks have Drujade? He's like a two way?
Yeah, Giddy
Giddy? Yeah, he's a point guard

(57:37):
What are you talking about? Giddy ain't no point guard. He's basically a point guard
Josh Giddy? He ain't no point guard. He's like a small forward
I'm pretty sure he is
Let's see, we got
But so outside of his gilly
Gilly
Gilly
There's no other true point guard but 38 year old Chris Paul
Man, that's sad

(57:59):
Point guard, thank you
Very sad
Is he the point guard? Point guard, shooting guard, guard
Shooting guard
He's a guard
Shea's the point guard
Shea's not the point guard
Then who the fuck brings the ball up?
Giddy! Why do you think he averages a triple? Why do you think he has somebody triple?
He averages triple double because he's more like a
Point guard
Like
Like no, Giddy

(58:21):
He's not a, Shea ain't no point guard either
Like he'd rather give
That's my last laugh
He'd rather
That ain't nothing left
I got another bottle but I ain't about to bust it
I ain't about to pop that bottle if you're going to take a little sip sip
Yeah, I'm taking a little sip man
Look at that drive
I'm just saying
There's no such thing as true point guards anymore
Like not really

(58:42):
Because
No need
After the D-Rose era, he stopped it
Well he
With D-Rose, it was part of that scoring point guard transition
You never say he stopped the whole stuff
Louis needs out doing too much
Unnecessary jumping
Goodness gracious man
He's playing ball man
Like you can't tell when you're near
He was definitely unnecessarily jumping
Like Jha right now is most likely going to

(59:03):
Fall on the same ground
I'm pretty sure he gave Jha some advice for that
If he doesn't get gunned down in a drive-by
Trying to dunk on everyone
D-Rose didn't Jha
He did, he pulled him aside a bit
He started Russell
Yeah, I mean
That's another thing
Like these dudes that have done it before you're telling
Hey you need to dial that a little bit
Then you're going to do it
He's probably going to still try to dunk on everyone
Yup
And when that don't work

(59:24):
He's out
He's out
Exactly
Horrible person to be around
I mean but again it's the evolution of basketball
You got to let him evolve
He got to learn
I mean he hasn't injured himself
God forbid
But like at the same time
Like you said he got good bones so
And who is this?
Jha Morant
We've looked at him in the past
But he hasn't injured himself
God forbid

(59:45):
I mean but if he catches them bodies though
He's killing people for sure
He's injuring, he's ending careers
Yeah he's definitely catching bodies
That is for sure
Jha Morant is definitely catching bodies
That is for sure
That's not totally true
Jason Tatum dunked on Braun in a playoff
And that was smooth
The 2018 Eastside Conference Finals
That was a good dunk

(01:00:06):
That was a great dunk
That was a superstar
That was a superstar
And it's just like
LeBron we're sorry you had to hear something like that
I mean Braun wasn't like
And he was hype after that too
Gabe a little chest monk
Who won the game?
Oh shit
I don't know actually
Niggas forgot now
Yeah
Ain't nobody taking nothing from Braun bro
Braun went straight to the finals
After that little poopy ass dunk
Ain't nobody taking nothing from Braun bro

(01:00:31):
I'm just saying like
It's the evolution of the game
He's not scared of Braun
Not that he was like
Because when they say everybody feared Mike
Nobody feared Braun
But he's not scared of Braun
Yeah they feared Mike
Because he quit at what 32?
And nobody's scared of a 40 year old man now
But that's crazy that a 40 year old man can still give you 30 points in a game

(01:00:53):
So that was a discussion I had with him
Braun's a boring player too
I was having a discussion with him
Hold on one second
What did you say?
Braun's a boring player too
I like it
I don't know
I like it
I wouldn't say he's boring
Because when he tacks the basket
Them dunks are good
He has surges but he's a boring player too
You know he got a crazy handle
Coming in from Akron, Ohio

(01:01:14):
6'8
LeBron James
Is he boring?
Yes
It's a cool intro
But LeBron's a boring player
Kyle Murph coming in from Virginia
6'6
6'6
6'2
6'2
6'2 and a half on a good day
Weight flux suites
Depends what type of mentality I have

(01:01:40):
That's a good poll is LeBron
What is the um
He got dunking highlights for sure
Do you not remember the turnaround 3 on the Wizards
The back bank shot
From the corner
Exactly
John Wall said he told me
I practice this bitch all the time
Get the fuck out of here

(01:02:01):
But he's a superstar
I'm just saying
Again taking nothing from Braun
I do not want to sound like a Braun hater
He is a boring player
He's a small forward version of Tim Duncan
Is Luke a boring player to watch?
Luke is not the best player to watch either
He's just like their IQ is so crazy
Like it's not like
Like he's not coming down and like mixing somebody up real quick
And like
And getting the bucket

(01:02:22):
He's just at the right spot at the right time
This dude could be mitten in his spare time
That's what he likes
Who's a good player to watch for you?
Who's an entertaining player to watch for you?
Steph
I like Steph
Steph
Steph
Yeah Steph
John
Damn
He said John
Oh he's a criminal
He supports basketball
Basketball
So that's the thing

(01:02:43):
I like watching Dane
But his team is always so bad
That it's just like
Portland
I like watching Dane
But it's not a can
That's why it's priced
That's why it's so exciting to watch Steph
Because not only are you watching a good player
Watching a good team
Do his thing
But you're watching a good team
Yeah
And Dave's a fool too
Honestly
Yeah
Dave's a fool
He does want to leave Portland
Why?
He's leaving
He's gone

(01:03:04):
He's out of here
I still think that
He might not
I think that he's going to go
And if he goes to somewhere that's not Miami
What the hell is in Miami?
That's what I'm trying to figure out
What do you mean?
Miami
If you got Dane
Jimmy
Who's a 95 on 2K
We talked about this
Thank God
Thank God
You remember that
What happened last time
We talked about it
We didn't get the settings
But no I think that would be a

(01:03:26):
If he does go to the Heat
I think it'll kind of mess up the Heat though
Yeah
They're giving up too much
Oh yeah no for sure
Not that he's not a
Caliber player that can
Come over there and really help out
But it's just like
I'm a Tyler Hero fan
If you lose Tyler Hero
I don't think Duncan Robinson's enough
You know what it is
It's kind of like
Kind of like Phoenix in a way

(01:03:48):
You get
You get Damian Lillard
You give up all that shit
Where you only got three players
Kind of like Phoenix only has
Beal, Booker and Durant
You got Beal, Booker and Durant
Versus
Fucking Butler
Lillard and Bam
Who's winning that in the 7 game series?
Suns
Right
Definitely Suns
So that's the thing right there
They need to bring Dionne Waiters back
Mr. Eye Get Bucket

(01:04:09):
Mr. Eye Get Bucket
You played with your guy?
He definitely did
He saw what he was doing
Taking gummies on the flight
Wanted to be a drug addict
So
He got all the dirt on everybody
Forget all the basketball talent they got
It's all dirt
It's just
It's very unfortunate
You know LeBron coming to the league

(01:04:30):
18 years old
You ain't got a bad picture of him or nothing
That's true
But
JR Smith he want to
Smoke on flights
Iman Shubber he want to
Get drunk at games
You know not
Basketball player but designer
He want to pull his thing out on planes
What's your opinion on James Harden?
Oh
That's a
He's a promoter in the club
He's a club promoter

(01:04:51):
Little baby's best friend
I know who that is
It's on my fashion week in Paris a couple months ago
Yeah I know
You think you got a chance to come back and win MVP?
You said you were going to win MVP this year
Most vans pushed?
Or
Is that what you said?
I take that as a no
He had good days
James Harden
He had his time when he was on the Rockets

(01:05:13):
And that was his best time
The whole
He created the step back
Hard air quotes on created the step back by the way
Created the step walk
I'm pretty sure yes
Steph was doing it
Legally and before
James Harden so
I take it you're not a
Harder fan
I mess with Harden in the music industry
Yeah
The music industry

(01:05:34):
It was fashion
He's buying his album on the drop
Yeah I can't wait for it
I'm waiting for a feature from Lil Baby or something
He dropping an album?
Hopefully soon
Hopefully soon
But yeah no
Besides that I don't know much from him
He left Joel Embiid high on the drive
Who's the best center in the league right now?
Joel Embiid
Ovi Jokic
Ovi Jokic
Why?

(01:05:55):
The white guy?
The white guy
The MVP, the NBA champion of 2003
He's just getting that because of this whole Ukraine war thing
That's like a thing that NBA is pushing
It's like this out
Other countries are good places to be
Don't attack Ukraine
Embiid is from another country
Yeah he is but he's black
Oh sorry
Yes
You know race is not a thing in the NBA

(01:06:17):
Right
Adam Silver's NBA
David Stern would never allow something like this
R.I.P to David
But Adam Silver's NBA is a whole different world
So it's not an argument that Joker is the best center
What hasn't he got MVP like what?
The past like 2 out of 3 seeds
2 out of 3 seeds like come on now
Did he not deserve it?
No
If we pull up the statistics from everybody in the NBA for the past 2 years

(01:06:40):
Somebody most likely probably beat him in something somewhere
You take Jokic off the nuggets and win a chip?
Jamal Murray ain't played in a few years either
The nuggets won't be nowhere
But that's the thing though
That's what I'm saying you take Jokic off the nuggets
And you keep Jamal you keep the whole team
You take Jokic off the nuggets
Are they even going to the playoffs?
Better yet you switch them two
If Embiid is on the nuggets
Jokic is on 76

(01:07:01):
Oh yeah yeah
Because Embiid can shoot 3's just like Jokic
Them bullshit ass 3's too
That's how it makes the nuggets though
Nah Jokic is selflessness
Jokic is a hub for the nuggets
So he's basically that middle man's addition and now he can score he can rebound
He brought Aaron Gordon's career back
No Aaron Gordon was never bad
Aaron Gordon was never bad
He just never had opportunities
Bad magic? Aw hell nah
He had never had opportunities
Aaron Gordon was a dunker

(01:07:22):
He got cheated out of a dunk title first of all
That's all he was known for was getting cheated out of a dunk contest
And the sad part is he never had opportunities on his other teams to shine like he is now on the
Name the team that was on his when he was on the Magic
Name who was the
Another player
Who was the starter there?
Markel Foltz Terrence Ross
Markel Foltz was garbage
That's when he just started to get his name back

(01:07:44):
Markel Foltz was he fell off very much so
And then he came back
He fell off the knee
He's coming back
We're not just going to start talking about everybody garbage now
He did fall off
He's had to be garbage
Markel Foltz he can dribble a little bit
He just got back
Markel Foltz just got back
That boy's from the DMV
He just started hitting free throws too

(01:08:05):
He just came back
But that's what I'm saying on the Magic when he was on the Magic
That was Aaron Gordon's time to be him
And Aaron Gordon wasn't the focal point of the offense either
He should have been if that's what you're saying
But that's the coaches fault at that point
That's not Aaron Gordon's fault
That's the coaches fault
I'm going to say Jonathan Isaac got injured so he was supposed to be a crazy
I don't know when Cole Anthony got there
What year was that he got there?
Two years ago?

(01:08:26):
Three years ago
Was Aaron Gordon there when Cole Anthony got there?
I don't think so
Yeah
I don't think so
I think Aaron Gordon's only two years in with the Nuggets right?
He's only two years
So I mean look they drafted another focal point of the offense
Who?
Cole Anthony
And he's doing a thing too
And then they got Pablo Escobar
Who's going to be a criminal?

(01:08:48):
He's going to be nice
Pablo Funk? No
Another criminal
A criminal?
Didn't you say Escobar?
Alright so make sure you like and subscribe to the channel
Question of the day before we let you guys go is
If LeBron came before Michael Jordan
Will we still have the debate of LeBron Merce, Michael Jordan as the GOAT?
So
Kobe still in the air
I think yes

(01:09:09):
I say Kobe still in the air
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