How to Convince Your Spouse to Move Abroad | Expat Life - Entrepreneur Expat

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Are you interested in moving toanother country to live the life
of your dreams, but perhaps youhave a spouse that maybe isn't
quite so sure.
I'm here with my wife, Amanda,and on this video we're gonna be
talking about how to convinceyour spouse.
To move abroad if you're reallyserious about moving to another

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country, and maybe they're notsure if they're quite ready yet.
Welcome to Entrepreneur Expat.
I'm Amanda.
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Okay.
So why did we decide to do thisvideo?
This is a little different fromwhat we normally do.
We're usually covering, youknow, current events or.
Um, you know, financial planningfor expats or different
countries.
Why did we decide to do this onespecifically?
Well, Amanda, we, we did thisvideo today because we've been

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hearing a lot from bothpotential clients of ours as
well as just a lot of members ingeneral of our community that
have that, that, that issuewhere they're like, you know
what?
I'm really ready to move abroad.
My wife or my husband, likemaybe isn't quite so sure.
And even to a smaller degree,when people are already starting
to work with us, they're aboutto move forward.

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There's typically one spousethat's a little bit more ready
or more down, if you will, thanthe other spouse.
So we wanted to talk about that,uh, what that sort of looks like
and what some of the questionsyou can ask and what some of the
things you can say are.
So that you guys can really justget a little bit more on the
same page.
Yeah.
So if you're married and you'rein this situation, this is gonna

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be very helpful for you.
We'll also be sharing more oflike our story of how we got
together because you had to do alittle convincing to get me to
go abroad, but not really,'causeI was totally full of it.
So we'll talk about that story.
Um, and for those of you who aresingle.
Um, and ready to mingle, thenthis is going to be helpful for
you as well, or those of you whoare dating,'cause we'll probably

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talk to that crowd first so thatyou can avoid a lot of
headaches, uh, down the road.
So for those who are single ordating, right, let's start there
and just get that one out of theway, right, because they can
very easily avoid this issue.
What would you say to thoseguys?
Absolutely.
So like, if you're single rightnow or you're just in that
dating phase, maybe you.
Are already starting to liveabroad or maybe you're still

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dating in your home country, butyou know that you have a plan
on, uh, moving abroad in thenear future.
It's important, like withanything else in dating, to just
be really clear about yourvalues upfront.
When Amanda and I first met, Ithink both of us, like you said
earlier, like you alluded to, wewere both very interested in
traveling the world andexploring and, and, uh, seeing

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other parts of the world, notjust staying in one place.
And yeah, you were a littlescared to leave Miami in your
hometown and all that, but youwere definitely down, right?
You were, you were definitelydown with that plan.
Um, so it's important to beupfront with your values because
let's say that you don't letyour potential partner or
potential spouse know.
What your future is, whatyou're, what you're planning on

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doing, what you're committed tofor yourself.
Well, all that causes is a tonof conflict down the line
because you're not actuallyfighting for your own values,
fighting for, Hey, this is who Iam, this is what I want to do.
And if you do mention thosethings, yes, there's a chance
that the person that's sittingacross the table from you might
say, you know what?
That, that's not really what Iwanna do.
Or maybe, maybe they're, they'rejust kind of timid or they're

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not really sure and they'relike.
Open to the idea, but you wantto get really clear that, hey,
this is, if we're dating longterm, this is definitely
something that I'm seriousabout.
Like, are you, are you on thatplan with me or not?
Just like having kids just like,you know, pets, um, things that,
you know, other different typesof preferences.
Those are really important.

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You want to talk to your partnerabout.
The fact that you want toexplore and live in other
countries?
Yeah, I mean, choosing where tolive or, you know, living in
multiple places or travelinglike that.
I mean, it is a big thing thatyou have to figure, figure out.
I think, uh, and we can talk alittle bit about this.
I.
I think a lot of people have alot of very real fears that come

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up and we'll get to that.
Yeah.
'cause there's some very realfears that come up for spouses
and those apply to both the, thepeople that are Yeah.
In a relationship and that, thatare maybe single and Yeah.
They're afraid that that personmight reject them or that maybe
they're not gonna be down withthe plan.
So instead of just being honestand upfront and saying, Hey,
this is what I'm about, theytend to like hide that stuff
until.
That may be eventual later, andthey just, that, that later

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never really comes.
So they go into a relationship,just like you've heard of
relationships where, you know,they're, they're two or three
years into even a marriage andthen one spouse wants to have
kids and then another onedoesn't.
Right.
This is similar.
Like, wait, similar, hold on.
Didn't you talk about thatbefore?
Yeah.
You got married.
I, you said some, someinteresting things when we were
discussing relationships alittle while back where you're
like, you know, people.

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Go.
Why?
Why do people go intorelationships typically, if
they're not gonna be aligned onvalues?
Like what, what have you seen interms of the, the, the common
scenarios there?
Feelings chemistry and traumabonding.
Yeah, mostly.
That's all right.
I mean, we're not gonna get,we're not relationship coaches.
There's like a romanticizationof, of relationships.
So I think we talked, did this,when we talked about passport

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bros, I learned a lot aboutdating from, uh, Eastern women.
Mm-hmm.
Because they date based on like,here are the values, here are
the goals, like.
You know, if you're in India,like the whole family needs to
approve the person and there'slike a protocol kind of a thing,
and well, we don't do that inthe west.
Yeah.
What's the difference betweenthe east and the west in terms
of those datings?
In the West it's very likeromanticized, right?

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So for example, like in theUnited States, you'll, and even
in Latin America, it'sromanticized and I'll talk about
it in example, in the West it'slike.
All based on your feelings andthe individual and, uh, that
person's so hot in the initialattraction in chemistry, but a
lot of people don't realize, Ithink you're hot.
Thank you.
A lot of people don't realizethat the, uh, initial attraction

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in chemistry.
Um, is not necessarily whatkeeps long-term relationships
together.
What keeps long-termrelationships together is
values, shared goals around weshould be around relationship
coaches.
What do, what do you think,guys, let us know in the
comments.
Should we launch a side hustleas expect dating, expat, dating,
expat dating, dating, expatdating coaches or something, let

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us know.
Now going back to expat dating,some of you might be thinking,
okay, well where am I gonna findthis person?
Because let's be real, right?
Like trying finding somebody.
If you're the type of person,especially if you're like the
more nomadic kind of person, wejoke that we're semi nomadic,
like we have this.
Trend where we like travel a lotand then we change where we're
living like every two years.
And now we've got goals wherewe're like, oh, okay, you know,

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maybe we'll start changingcountries every six months.
Like, we're not there yet.
It's something that we'retalking about.
We'll get to like how we havethose discussions, uh, later.
'cause they might be reallyhelpful.
But, um, you know, if you're inlike, let's be real, like trying
to find somebody who's like downfor this lifestyle.
Like, it's not a very commonthing, right?
It, it's already contrarian.

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To kind of be like, Hey, I'mgonna go leave the United States
or Canada or Europe or Australiaor wherever you're watching
from.
Right?
And I'm gonna go leave my homecountry, uh, and I'm gonna go
travel the world, or I'm gonnago abroad'cause I want to,
right?
Yeah.
Because it's a desire of my,it's not that common.
It's not that common.
Um, so it's a, it's common inlike these small communities,
like the expat community andlike with you guys, because

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we're already here kind ofsharing a common interest.
But if you look at, let's say afew thousand subscribers that we
now have, and hopefully that's.
A hundred thousand by the timeyou watch this video.
We'll see.
Uh, but out of 7 billion people,right?
Yeah.
And even if you combine all the,the different expat channels,
like maybe there's a million,couple million unique people, a
few, I don't know, let's call it5 million.

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Well, with American expats, Ithink that's anywhere from like
five to 9 million that areoverseas.
Yeah.
But my point is, but it doesn'tinclude that everybody's small
sample size of the population.
Tiny, tiny sample size of thepopulation.
Most people like don't evenleave their home city most of
the time.
It's kind of sad.
I mean, yeah.
'cause there's a lot to explore,but that's what most people are
conditioned into.
So if you're like in that datingphase, you know, start

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exploring, start going out inthe world, start booking the
tickets, right?
Because that's how you're gonnafind people that are into
traveling or you know, for us itwas a little bit different
because we were both in onlinebusiness.
We met through a networkinggroup and usually people who run
online businesses, they do itbecause they wanna go travel.
Yeah.
And I think there's a wholeother video we do on.
How to find your, your partnerif you're an expat.

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Yeah.
Like how, how to date as anexpat.
Maybe that is another, maybethat is another little niche
there.
Yeah.
I know you did moreinternational dating than I did,
so Wow.
Um, so that's something, youknow, start getting out there
and that's how you're gonna beable to, to meet people that are
more interested in this kind ofa lifestyle.
Um, because it's not common,like we're just gonna be honest.

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It's not, uh, it is becomingmore mainstream, right?
But it's still not common nowfor those of you who are
married, right?
Because if you're dating, it'seasy, right?
Like you're either with it oryou're not.
And you move on until you findthe person who's with it, right?
And you just live your best lifewhen you're married.
Uh, especially like, let's sayyou've been married for a long
time.

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'cause we got married knowingthat we were going to do this,
right?
Mm-hmm.
But we work with a lot ofclients who've been married for
a long time.
And then one spouse is like,Hey, I can't take this shit
anymore.
Like, let's move to anothercountry.
Or now it's a desire of theirsbecause so much has changed in
the world too, in terms of whatpeople are able to do and what
they have access to.

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And then like the other spouseis like, well wait a second.
This was not something that wasin the game plan.
You know?
Uh, so that happens.
Uh, or maybe, you know, theyhave been talking about it for a
long time.
Like you with me, right?
You're like, well, why don't youjust come to Mexico?
After you'd been to Miami and,and Yeah.
You know, we were, well even,even before I came to Miami, I
was like, why don't you justcome out here and just come,

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come live in Mexico with me?
And that was, and I was like,no, you're coming to Miami first
and you're meeting my wholefamily.
We're not doing that.
Right.
Ladies and all your childhoodfriends and Yes.
Uhhuh.
Um, and, um, because my Latinfamily had to do the F Latin FBI
thing.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, when you're dating.
So Totally.
There's that.
Um.

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And even still me, I hadhesitations.
Right.
Not because, and I think weshould talk about some of the
hesitations and fears thatspouses and partners might have.
Right?
I had hesitations that weren'teven necessarily rooted in
reality.
I.
To be honest, I'd beenresearching how to live in other
countries and had YouTubeplaylists and all kinds of
things for at least five yearsby the time that I met you and I

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still gave you shit, you know,and had hesitations.
Um, oh, and your parents werelike freaked out by the idea.
It was like, what?
You're gonna, you're gonna justgo and move to another country
with this?
Boy, like, what?
Are you crazy?
And now we're married, you're aNina de Casa.
Um, but you know, Latins arevery close.

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It's difficult, things likethat.
But let's talk about, you know,some of those fears and, and
hesitations.
That might be coming up forpeople.
I know a really big one is, whatabout kids?
Right?
We don't have kids in full disWe have, we have this cat and
then there's a dog under thechair.
There's a dog under the chair.
Hey Daisy, you may not be ableto see, but she's down there.
Um, she, she comes and says hion video sometimes, but kids is
a big one, right?

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Where people are like, well, howam Or pets, I mean, or both
pets.
Both, right.
But kids, let's talk kidsspecifically.
Yeah.
You know, kids are a big one.
'cause they're like, how arethey gonna go to school?
How are they gonna go to school?
Yeah.
How am I gonna keep them safe?
It's like, guys, there's,there's.
Millions of kids in othercountries too, and they're not
getting kidnapped on the streetsand they're getting an education
and they speak English.

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We're shot at the school.
Uh, yeah.
Well actually, so on that note,um, you know, they talk about
things like safety and I'll,I'll do a little, little tangent
here to say, in Mexico, we don'thave parents frantic about every
time they send their kids toschool thinking that God forbid
there's gonna be some kind ofmass, mass casualty event in
that school of some type.

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We don't have, we don't havethose things happen.
Yeah.
In our, like, it's so rare inour neighborhood.
Kids are out playing on thestreet by themselves all the
time.
Yeah.
It's really interesting.
Like even, even here in the, thecommunity we live in, uh, up,
up, uh, on the mountain here,you'll see kids like playing on
the sidewalks and the streetrunning around basically by
themselves unsupervised playingsoccer.

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Yeah.
Out in the park.
It doesn't happen in the USbecause.
There's, there's so many threatsthere to children, and it's,
it's, it's sickening to thinkabout, but not just the, the
shootings, but also you got likea lot of, a lot of creepers.
You got a lot of, there's justweird stuff.
I don't know if it's somethingin the water.
I don't know if it's just like alot of just societal contagion,

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but it's very difficult fromeverything that we've seen for
kids to even like be safe therefor parents to feel, I mean,
since the, the seventies, theeighties.
It's not more.
Yeah.
'cause they take the kids gradesin, in the seventies were just
outplay streets.
Yeah.
They were the, the, the, the,the key, the latching key.
Yeah.
Kids.
But I mean, in my generation, I,I wasn't really playing, I mean,

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other than maybe in right in thecul-de-sac there with my
parents.
Right.
Watching or close by.
Oh no I wasn't.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, Miami's definitelymore dangerous than where I grew
up in, in the Bay.
But, uh, in California.
But still, like in general, inthe US it's not safe to leave
your kids to, to just play.
You know, with each other on, onthe, on the street and have a
basketball game or whatever.
Like, if you're not there as aparent, you're not gonna feel

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comfortable.
But here in Mexico and in a lotof other countries, in Latin
America, they're actuallysignificantly more safe.
And there's a lot less crimethat happens, um, against
children.
And, and guess what?
The, the school system in the USsucks.
Like, it's not, people are keepsaying, oh, you, the US is the
best and this and this and that.
And Canada, it's very similartoo.
In the education it ranks Okay.

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In the it ranks.
Okay.
It's like very middle tier.
Yeah.
Um, and I'm not saying the, theMexican public school system
ranks better necessarily thanthe US public school system.
No.
Most expats put their kids ininternational schools.
Yeah, exactly.
They'll put their kids inprivate international schools
where they're, they're becomingbilingual.
They're getting a lot ofcultural exposure.
They're making friends with likekids of diplomats that are
there, for example.

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Yeah.
Um, learn learning differentlanguages, different, different
talents.
Learning they have friends from,from multiple countries.
Exactly.
Um, there's also homeschoolinglike world school, things like
that, that those homeschoolingcommunities have become of, of
digital nomad families andthings like that.
And those options are betterthan the average option of a
school in the US in most casestoo.
Yeah.
And I was reading a book theother day that was talk, and I

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think you have a book about thison Kindle.
We share the Kindle right.
About how.
Like industries are basicallylike changing and the economies
are changing and things arebeing destroyed.
And you have to think about thattoo when you're like, okay, well
if AI like does the UnitedStates School system or the UK
or Australia or any country forthat matter, right?
Like does, do they hold themonopoly on actually teaching

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your kid the skills that theyneed in order to survive into
the world?
Yeah.
And not just survive, but thriveinto like the economies and the
world that we're moving into.
Usually the answer is no.
And why?
Why do you think that is though?
Like, why do you think that the.
The mindset of like the averageperson, let's say in the US or
Canada or somewhere, is soingrained in thinking that the

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education system and perhaps allof the other societal systems in
their country is like thegreatest or the best.
They don't dunno anything else.
Yeah, that's basically, butwhere does it come from?
I, I would say that's a goodpoint too in the us.
A lot of people don't even have,like, the majority of people
don't even have passports now.
It's like 60% of US citizensdon't even have a passport.
Like most Americans have no ideawhat even goes on in other

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countries.
And yeah, I don't know ifCanadians are as bad, but, you
know, um, but I mean, we know alot of Canadians who also don't
know what's going on in a lot ofother countries.
I if, if it's as bad.
In Canada, but they just don'tknow anything else.
That's usually what people say.
They just don't know anythingelse.
And I think it's part of thedogma too.
I think it's part of thepropaganda that's, that's being

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passed down in schools and othereducational systems in the media
and all, all the, all the, allthe mainstream news that says
that all these other places aredangerous.
The US is number one.
And that to, to our currenttopic of like why your spouse
might feel that.
They, you know, with kids, like,wouldn't feel safe having their
kids raised in another country.

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That's one of the biggestreasons, really.
Yeah.
Uh, that in education or my kidneeds to adjust.
Like, we've met a lot of kids inMexico who are, um, you know,
children of expats or maybechildren of, uh, Mexican
Americans, and they go back andforth all the time.
Our neighbor has his grandkidhere, uh, for the, like, he
doesn't wanna go back.
The kid has, he's probably likeeight years old and he's

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literally said, I don't want togo back.
Uh, to the United States, he isadjusting just fine.
Um, so yeah.
And they, they do especiallylike when, when they're younger.
I, I, I think it's almost theadults that are, have a little
bit of a harder time adjusting.
Yeah.
'cause they're sort of set intheir ways and how they want
things and, and like certainexpectations that aren't
necessarily.

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Uh, the most important things atthe end of the day.
Yeah.
But there are things that you,you know, you grew up with,
let's say, a certain, uh,standard of how quickly you get
your service at the restaurantor something like that, which
we'll, we'll talk about inanother topic, which is kind of
those cultural differences.
But kids adjust actually very,very quickly.
We've seen, yeah.
And I've interviewed tons ofpeople on this YouTube channel,

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expats living all over theWorld, from Jamaica to Europe to
all Over who have children.
Some of them, you know, ex uh,went to another country and
they're staying there.
Others are more nomadic andthey're like, my kids are doing
great.
Yeah.
So I would say in terms of thetopic of kids, the best way to,
to really open up your partneror your spouse's mind to this is
just show them.
Do research on, on your end andshow them what all the options

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are.
Don't just expect them to justall of a sudden have like a
change of faith and be like,okay, yeah, sure.
You have to present evidence,you have to present compelling
evidence.
You have to, you know, slowlyopen their mind up to, Hey,
there's this option forhomeschooling.
There's like, I think it'scalled World School Think that's
one of them.
Yeah.
It's where it's a com, like acommunity thing.
And they're doing there thingsonline, international schools.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And show them all the options.

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Go and talk to the schools,research the prices, figure out
what their curriculum is like,and then look at.
And, and say, honey, look at, Idid all this research, you know,
this is the school that Jimmycan go to with like this thing
and this thing and this thing,and here's how it'll work.
And I, they have better, betterstandardized test scores than
even the, the schools here inour county.
Yeah, right.
So doing that kind of researchand Yeah.

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Yeah.
So.
We'll get to research in asecond.
Educating yourself.
That's gonna be a common themeis the research in terms of
convincing your spouse.
Um, and in terms of pets, right?
That's another one that's a bigconcern for people.
Yeah.
Daisy was actually, she's, she'sthe big golden dog.
The retriever down there underyour chair.
Mm-hmm.
She's, uh, actually Mexican,born and raised.
She came from Los Cabos.

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She was born in Cabo San Lucas.
I know you, you were honey, youremember Cabo.
She actually came from a longline of fish dogs.
Not fish.
Dogs.
Dogs that were on fishing boats,but I digress.
They weren't like hybrid fish.
But anyway.
Uh.
Uh, she, she came from Cabo.

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She, she traveled actually tothe US all, all around the us.
Daisy's been to multiple citieswith me.
She's been to Columbia and thenback to Mexico here.
Mia is a little Mexican streetcat that we rescued here in
Guadalajara.
Right?
Yeah.
And, um, you know, she, she'sobviously been here, but Daisy's
traveled back and forth.
We have plenty of friends weknow that have brought their

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pets, that bring'em back andforth.
If you have a car and you'regonna drive that car down
anyway, you just bring'em downto somewhere like Mexico or even
Central America, not that big ofa deal, or you fly'em.
We have friends who just flewthree cats to Thailand,'cause
they moved to Thailand from theUnited States.
So it's definitely done.
In terms of Mia, we're gettingher used to traveling first
cars.
Then boats, I think, we'll,we'll, we'll step up to, I dunno

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if the cat will do a boat toboats.
We have a lot of boats here inLake Al.
And then, you know, one of our,our partners here in the Chapala
area has a bed and breakfastthat's pet friendly and she
goes, bring the cat.
So we're starting to get hermore accustomed to it, you know,
but there's ways around it.
People do it all the time.
There's even airlines that arespecifically like their niche is

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transporting pets.
Yeah.
Even if you, let's say you'recoming down to Mexico and you
don't have a car, and let's saythat your dog isn't, you know,
small enough to fit or a servicedog or, or something like that
where you could just bring himup in the cabin with you.
There are services that'll bringyour dog by land to another
country.
And yeah, you might end uppaying a couple thousand
dollars, but you can get aprofessional driver to bring

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them down to wherever you areand not have to worry about, uh,
anything other than you justflying to the city.
And then the dog arrives alittle later by car.
Um, and you're good to go.
Like, it's not that complicated.
You just typically you'll needyour rabies shots, you'll need
maybe a veterinary certificate.
Um, but it's, it's, I mean, withDaisy, when we went to Columbia,
I got all of our paperworktogether in less than two weeks.

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Yeah.
Between the time I decided to gothere from Austin and the time
we landed in, in Medi.
Yeah.
So it wasn't that complicated ofa process.
It was a few hundred dollars.
Got her paperwork, got hercertificates.
Her export permit, whatever itis.
And, and you're good to go.
And we landed and we're fine.
Yeah.
And this is one of the things,if you're interested in Mexico,
we can help you with.
So entrepreneur xback.com/consult.

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Um, okay.
And then another concern is likeif they have elderly parents
mm-hmm.
Uh, like okay, bring'em.
Yeah.
I mean that's, that's probablythe easiest way to do it.
To have a nurse actuallyfull-time living with you or, or
the entire, let's say the entireday, and they, they come and go.

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You're gonna pay like a fifth oras little as a 10th of what you
would pay in the US for thatsame service, maybe even less if
you're somewhere like SoutheastAsia.
So you're not only gonna savemoney, they're gonna have
probably a much better qualityof life because there's so much
land here.
Like right behind us, we're,we're right by the lake.
You can find somewhere in naturewith a lot of space, um, or, or

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a city where you have more room.
You're not cramped somewhere ina house, you know, a little
house or an apartment.
You've got more room to breathe,better food.
They're gonna have a betterquality of life.
You're gonna have a betterquality of life because you're
not dealing with a country thatyou don't want to be in anymore
just because you feel obligatedto your aging parents.
To be able to, to stay there.
And we know a lot of peoplewho've moved their aging parents

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overseas and then they can moreeasily afford care for their
aging parents overseas than theywould in the US or Canada.
Absolutely.
And much better care, too.
Quality.
Yeah.
So that's also our quality.
That's also something, uh, toconsider as well.
We know people who've done it.
It is an option, uh, that isavailable out there that I think
a lot of people just don'trealize is an option.

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I think is, is part of it.
Yep.
You know, I think a lot ofpeople just don't realize that
they have options in life.
They're not stuck.
Yeah.
For everything.
For kids, for parents.
Okay.
What other, what, what are someof the other topics you've heard
about healthcare?
Healthcare comes up a lot.
Oh, this is a good one.
Yeah.
No, it's not like we have, Imean, doctors or emergency rooms
or hospitals in Mexico.
Uh, yeah.

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We actually do better ones.
In a lot of cases, they'rebetter in Guadalajara, for
example, you, you'll find someof the best hospitals in all of
Latin America because we haveone of the best medical schools.
Yeah.
Uh, in the University ofGuadalajara in the entire
region.
And so.
The healthcare is at least onpar with the US in terms of
private healthcare.
And the other thing is, oh no,it's better because you can

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actually talk to your doctor onwhat's happening.
That was, that was a thing I wasgetting to, which is And
actually solve your healthproblem.
Right.
So it's, it's, it's, it's on parin terms of like the hospitals,
the staff, the quality ofmachines, it's pretty much the
same.
But then you have much moreaccess.
So if you go to a private, let'ssay dermatologist or some, you
know, a, a gastroenterologist orsome other specialist, maybe
you're paying 40 to$60 us.

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Out of pocket.
That's not a copay.
That's like you don't haveinsurance and you're gonna visit
them just completely out ofpocket with your own money.
Under a hundred dollars pervisit for the entire thing.
And they're in most casesspending like up to an hour with
you.
This isn't like you're in andout in 15 minutes in your
primary care visit or your, yourspecialist visit, like they're
with you an hour, an hour and ahalf.
They're going through your labs,they're out, they're answering

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your questions, and that's likeout of pocket.
I mean, I think on average maybe$50 per, per visit is what we've
spent.
Medicine is way cheaper here.
Insulin is like a 20th of theprice or, or less.
Depending on where, where youare in in the world, but they
don't have all these samemonopolies.
A lot of the time.
The governments, which.
I'm not a big fan of governmentintervention, but in certain

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cases you have health monopoliesin the US driving up things like
the price of insulin driving upspecialty drugs in Columbia.
It's all regulated in Mexico,it's very similar as well, where
you have a maximum price thatyou can sell a given drug to,
and if a company will notproduce a, a generic version.
The government will say, okay,well we're just gonna produce it
and we're gonna g give that tothe public because they don't

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allow things like price gougingthat are happening in the US
with a lot of thesepharmaceutical companies.
Yeah.
And these monopolies and thingslike that.
So it's a, a higher quality ofcare overall, right?
Same machines that exactly thesame machines, if not better, in
some cases are newer that youfind in the US significantly
cheaper.
Much more access to the doctors.
They'll even give you theirWhatsApp number a lot of the
times in case you have some kindof question or emergency or

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anything else.
Yeah.
And you don't have to deal withall this BS with insurance.
I mean, you can get privateinsurance and I do recommend
that you have it for like majormedical issues, uh, or
conditions.
But insurance is a lot easierhere, um, from everything that
we've seen.
Yeah, it's a much smootherprocess.
And on the healthcare front,like a lot of expats overall
live a much healthier life.
'cause the food quality isbetter.
They're walking more.

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Uh, you just.
Just a healthier overall, whichis way more important actually
in my book than like eventualaccess to doctors anyway.
Yeah.
Because if you think about itthis way, oh, like I, you know,
I need it to be in the USbecause I have Kaiser insurance
there and I have to be able togo to a Kaiser or, or I have to
be able to, you know, use my, myMedicare in the US or whatever.

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It's like, well, sure, maybe,but what if you just didn't have
to go to the doctor at all?
What if you started eatingbetter?
Because here they don't poisonthe food nearly as much as they
do in other countries.
Yeah.
It's healthier food.
It's a lot of, it's local, it'sfarm grown, like just a lot of
the farms here.
We've got berries right acrossthe lake that are produced at a
farm locally.
Yeah.
We've got a lot of, yeah, youjust go on from the market
every, a lot of farms and, andit's locally grown and, and

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locally, uh.
Raised meat and locallybutchered and everything, it's
much healthier.
It's much, I wouldn't even callit organic because it doesn't
have to be right, but if you eathealthy and you walk, because
cities are so much betterplanned here, versus going to a
car, all going into a car allthe time and not getting
exercise and because you don'thave to pay so much in rent and

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healthcare and food.
You actually have time toexercise and enjoy life, so
you're happier.
So you're emotionally better, soyou're less stressed, you're
eating better, you're walkingmore, you're exercising.
You have a better community hereof like expats and other people
that are smiling at you and,and, and saying hi in the, in
the street or on the sidewalkand you know your neighbors and
you're not stressed.
You're risk of a lot of thingsis gonna go down.

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Yeah.
Obviously this is not medicaladvice, right?
Yeah.
Consult your physician ifthere's some kind of specific
condition or try to find aspecific doctor maybe that'll
help you with, with thecondition that you have.
We've seen, we've seen and heardstories of a lot of people,
they'll come to Mexico, they'llcome somewhere else outside of
the us.
Things like A DHD go away andtheir kids.
Yeah.
Um, a lot, a lot of othersymptoms and, and conditions
that they thought may not haveeven been curable have gone away

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because they've reduced theirstress and then final thing that
I think stresses a lot of peopleout, and if we're missing
anything, let us know in thecomments.
It's just a logistics of it allbecause, uh, you know,
especially when you're doingthat first one.
I think once you get used to it,like for example, right, our
first move to Mexico, well, youwere already here, but it was
like, my God, it took us like ayear to get the house prepared
the way that we wanted it.

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And then this time we moved tosomewhere else.
Mexico and we had the wholehouse set up in a month.
Like you just, we also knew whatto expect.
We knew what to expect.
We knew what to do, like, um,you know, so it gets easier with
time.
We've traveled a lot, uh,together in Mexico and out of
Mexico as well, so you do getused to it, right?
And you do learn the hacks andthe tricks and all that stuff,
but I think that first one,right.

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That first one's the rough one.
Yeah.
And, and the reason in terms oflogistics, the reason for that
in terms of logistics is becausethere's just so much to figure
out.
You're adapting to a newculture, potentially learning
or, or reinforcing a newlanguage.
You're understanding like thecustoms and the way of life,
like, it took me six months tojust start to understand that
when a, a contractor says thatthey're gonna come and fix a
problem that you're having inyour house, manana, it might

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mean that they're comingtomorrow.
It might mean they're coming ina week.
It might mean they're comingwhenever it's convenient to them
when they don't have too muchwork to do.
Or it might mean that they'rejust blowing you off hard to
tell without a bunch morecontext.
Um, so with things like housemaintenance, you just learn to
do a lot, a little bit more ofthat, uh, by yourself.
Like, Hey, I, I learned a lotabout plumbing and electrical

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and so many other things, right?
Yeah.
But I think it's the logisticsof the move, right?
It's like, oh, okay.
And, and one of the, our guestson this podcast.
Elizabeth, she has a farm withher family in Columbia.
Go check it out.
We'll have to visit.
Yeah, we're gonna have to visit.
Basically.
She brought up this veryinteresting point, which I would
love your opinion on actually,because I asked her this.

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I was like, look, we hear itfrom the men all the time.
'cause we hear it more from themen than the women.
Right?
That the men are like gung-hoand they're ready to go.
And the spouse, their wife justdoesn't want to, sometimes it is
reversed, but we will hear itmore from men and um.
I asked her, I'm like, why doyou think that is?
And she brought up this veryinteresting point.
She goes, here's my tip.
Right.
And I guess, you know, she, she,she had to go through this with

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her husband, and I realized itwas the experience that I had
with you, which was like, uh, Ihad a positive experience with
you.
Mm-hmm.
Let me explain where she goes.
A lot of men will maybe like goto their wives and be like,
let's do this thing.
And then the wife thinks thatlike all the planning is on her.
So she has to figure out theimmigration logistics.
She has to figure out, uh, youknow, how to get to the other

(30:40):
country.
She has to figure out theschool, the transporting of the
pets.
Like, yep.
She has to figure out housing'cause she,'cause she's used to,
I guess women are used to doinga lot.
Um, you know.
Sure.
So then their husband comes tothem and they're like, let's
move to another country.
And they're like.
No, because I'm the one who'sgoing to have to plan all of
that.
It's a no, I've got enough on myplate.

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Well, that, and, and you know,this, this goes, this touches on
our, our little foray into, intorelationship coaching perhaps,
but I think that that speaks alot more than anything to the
cultural, I'm just gonna saythis perversion that's happening
between men and women in the USand like the, the, the roles and
how things have.

(31:24):
Moved away from traditionalvalues and traditional
households and how men used tobe responsible for not just, you
know, bringing home the bacon,but also like making decisions
in the family and, and justmaking sure that all the things,
uh, that had to be taken care oflogistically happened.
And so the issue with situationslike that unfortunately is that,

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whether it's because of thatrelationship specifically or
just because of that woman'sexperience.
With men in general, she feelslike the burden of handling all
those things is on her, andthat's not how it should be.
I think that's, that's really aside effect of what's going on
right now with Western Societywhere, and maybe it's the fifth

(32:07):
wave of feminism, maybe it'ssomething else, but.
Women are having all this, theseresponsibilities put under their
plate that they didn't reallywant, but then that somebody
taught them that they shouldhave because it gives them
freedom or it gives them power.
In reality, they're overwhelmed.
They've already got so much shiton their plate.
They're overwhelmed and Andthey're overwhelmed.
And then their spouse goes tothem and says, let's move to
their country.
Right.
And so I'll say, she's like,you're crazy.

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I'll say two things to that.
Yeah.
One is that I think that men andwomen both need to look at.
What it is that they actuallywant and not follow what society
tells them to want.
Whether it's red pill on the, onone hand, or feminism on the
other hand, both dangerous, bothare extremely dangerous of the

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extremes.
Yeah.
But what's going on there is, isthat that's something that's an
imbalance in the relationship,which probably takes looking at,
or maybe therapy or maybelooking at philosophies that
are, that are not.
The mainstream of what, what thewest, you know, media and the
west and and society is tellingyou to, to do.
But from a mens, from a man'sperspective, let's say that

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it's, it's, it's the man in therelationship that is saying, you
know, I wanna do this.
It's important to make your wifefeel secure and knowing that
you're actually takingresponsibility and doing the
research and not putting theburden of another thing on her,
because that not only is gonna.
Make her much more down for thatadventure, but it's also gonna

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give you a lot more security andstructure and strength in that
relationship period.
That was my experience with you.
I didn't have to worry aboutanything.
Oh, do tell.
You were just like, come toMexico.
The plan was six weeks.
This was after, you know, we'dbeen dating for a while.
You just met my whole family.

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Just six weeks was the plan andI was supposed to go back.
That obviously did not happen.
Nope.
Right.
And we got married and, and allthat stuff.
And um, you know, but I didn'thave to worry about anything.
I mean, I, the moment I landedhere, you already had me booked
like,'cause you thought I wasjust gonna be here for six
weeks.
You're like, you have to go tothis doctor, this doctor, this
doctor, this doctor.
Get your teeth checked.

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Get your teeth cleaned, get yourfeelings done.
Whatever you need.
Yeah.
Get your feelings done.
Get your teeth done.
Go to the eye doctor, becausethat stuff is so much more
expensive in the United States.
You're like looking up doctor'sappointments for me to just get
it done.
'cause I was gonna be picked youup at the airport.
Picked me up at the airport.
Mm-hmm.
I didn't have to worry about anyof that with flowers.
Um, and, you know, but eeverything, the housing, you've

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handled it.
You were like three hours late.
Oh yeah.
I was three hours late.
We got delayed in Mexico City.
Yeah, I remember that.
Um, you know, but basically Ididn't have to worry about
anything in terms of logistics,housing.
That was you, you know, when wewere going out on, on trips and
things like that.
Housing you handled theimmigration.
That was all you, you know, andwith the help of attorneys that
we, that you already knew andthat we worked with, but it was

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all you.
Mm-hmm.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Uh, insurance.
Like, oh, what, how does healthinsurance work?
The hell, if I know how healthinsurance works, we'll even have
clients be like, Hey Amanda,what health insurance do you
recommend?
And I'll be like, go ask Justin.
He buys all the insurance, hehandles all those things.

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Um, so I don't have to handlethose things basically.
And that gave me a level of, um,safety and security as your
partner.
And then, you know, now yourwife, you know that now when
you're like.
Hey, you know, how about we dosix months here and six months
over there?
I'm like, I'm down, right?
Because I know that you've gotit handled.
Like obviously there's things Ihave to help with and, and

(35:40):
things like that.
And transporting the cat,transporting, you know, pets and
things.
You're gonna, you have the cat,I'll take the dog on a plane.
Um, you know, so it's, it's notlike it all falls on one person,
but to your point, you know, Ithought it was so interesting
when EL brought that up on the.
On the podcast because speakingas a woman who coached women for
15 years on their businessesmm-hmm.

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I do know that that's a thing,right?
Yeah.
And if your spouse just shows upoutta nowhere and it's like,
let's go.
Right?
Like she, you're overwhelmed.
You're overwhelmed.
Your, your nervous system is.
What, what the hell is going on?
What do you mean?
We're just gonna upload, uprootour life and Yeah, take our
children and move to anothercountry.
God knows where I don't speak ina lick of Spanish.
Like how, how on earth is thatgonna work?

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Exactly.
Because, you know, it's, it'sall about presentation too.
If you present this idea to yourpartner and you're like, let's
go and do this thing, and, butyou haven't done any research on
it and you, you don't know.
You don't wanna just like laythat on someone like that.
Yeah, either way.
I think that's a big, big thing.
Either way.
Like if it's the woman who wantsto go and the man's not dead
like you, she, you don't wannado that either.

(36:43):
You don't just wanna lay it onhim and be like, because it also
feels like we're moving in twoweeks.
It also feels like an ultimatum,right?
Yeah.
I could, I could go from Austinto Meine in two weeks, uh, when
I was single on my own and justfigure out the logistics and
make it happen.
'cause I didn't have a.
You know, I didn't have a,wasn't in a relationship at the
time, but if you're in arelationship, you can't just
spring that on someone, even ifyou think you could figure it

(37:05):
out in that period of time.
You gotta, you gotta kind of goslow and first, you know, maybe
start watching some travel vlogstogether and then tell them to
subscribe to Entrepreneur Expat.
If you haven't already andyou're watching our videos,
definitely make sure you likeand subscribe.
Like that little plug there.
So, no, um, oh, go ahead.
So, so yeah, you, you gotta, yougotta get them, like watching
content like this, right?
Learning about what it'sactually like to live in other

(37:25):
countries.
Yeah.
Right, and, and figuring out thelogistics and what that looks
like and what the step-by-stepprocess is, which by the way,
you guys don't have to do thatalone.
Like we literally can do it foryou.
Yeah.
If you're interested in gettingsupport for you and your spouse.
Moving to another country, go toentrepreneur expat.com/consult
to apply for your freeconsultation.

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We'll help you through theentire process, logistics, pets,
car importation, whatever youneed.
We have a team of experts inMexico, even immigration,
immigration, company formation,all that stuff, taxes, all that
stuff that PE that goes into it.
And make sure your spouse comeson that call as well.
We need you both there.
Because it's a decision you'remaking together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can't do this thing whereyou're like, Hey, I'm doing this

(38:06):
call, but my spouse has no ideaI'm doing this, first of all,
no.
Uh, and second of all, if forsomething so massive, I mean,
you, you guys need to make thisdecision.
Together.
So now let's talk about themagic word when you are in a
relationship, because you and Iare starting to talk about what
our next adventures might looklike and all that kind of stuff.
And by the way, we also havedone a lot of work together in

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terms of like, uh, that's awhole other conversation.
Personal development.
No, I meant like runningbusinesses with you.
Oh, spouse.
That too.
That's a whole, we've also donea lot of work on ourselves.
Yeah.
It's a whole other conversation.
Um, you know, but for example,um.
One of the things that, that weare starting to talk about is
like, oh, okay, you know, we'vebeen doing Mexico for a while.

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What are we interested in next?
Can we diversify?
Things like that.
Now, obviously I'm a lot moreopen to it because I've, I did
Mexico, Mexico's the softlanding.
Yep.
For a lot of people.
Uh, it's a good place to starton the international lifestyle,
and we're starting to haveconversations about this, and I
think one of the most importantwords here is.

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Compromise.
Compromise, absolutely.
If you're married, you'remarried, right?
Because like you said, when youwere single, you could just pack
up your shit and just go in twoweeks and it was like, no big
deal.
But now there's more things to,there's a whole other person,
well, and Mia and Daisy, andalso two pets of course, that
that need to be considered and,and running and work and running

(39:30):
a business and all that kind ofstuff.
So what are some of the ways inwhich people can compromise?
Because I think one examplemight be.
When I arrived in Mexico, wewere actually kind of nomadic at
first before we started thisYouTube channel.
We traveled through lots ofparts of Mexico and then I'm the
one who was like, I likeGuadalajara.
And then he's like, then we'restaying, which was the easiest

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thing for me to do.
But yeah, as as an example.
So Amanda came down here and Iwas not attached to one specific
place.
In fact, right before you came,I was actually in the middle of
almost moving to PortoEscondido.
Which is a little beach town inOaxaca in the south of Mexico.
And I'm glad that I didn't,although maybe eventually we end
up somewhere out there, but in,in different, you know, under

(40:14):
different circumstances.
At least Oaxaca is high up on myvisiting list.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Um, and you're glad also that wedidn't move to some little tiny
beach town.
So instead of moving there andgoing along with my, well
potential plans, they werefoiled because I got scanned out
of some money on a rental andsome bunch of other shit that
happened.
If you wanna avoid that, by theway, we have people in real
estate that actually vet thesedeals and contracts and

(40:34):
everything else for you.
Um, so that's another reason toschedule that consult with our
team.
Um, but I didn't go through withthose plans and instead of
moving where I thought I mightwant to move, like, like the
beach town there.
Instead, Amanda and I, when shecame, we started traveling
around different beach towns onthe Pacific Coast and other
towns and cities, and weactually realized between the
two of us, you know, I was like,you know, I like Mexico.

(40:54):
Let's, let's do Mexico.
And Amanda said, out of all theplaces that I've been, I really
like Guadalajara the most.
So we ended up staying there.
We lived in Guadalajara for twoyears, and now we're living near
the lake.
Chapala.
Right, right.
Actually right behind us.
We'll have to, to show them alittle bit of the view drone
footage.
Um, yeah.
Out, out here from our backyard.
But, uh, we lived in Chapala forabout two years together, and

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now we're living right by theLake Gura for two years.
Uh, sorry.
We lived in Guadalajara forabout two years now.
We're living near.
Near Lake Choppa.
And that was basically becauseyou said, you know what?
I like Guadal heart.
I'm like, all right, maybe it'sall right.
I haven't, I haven't seen itfrom that perspective, like from
being with a partner andexploring something together.
And it was kind of cool becauseI got to show Amanda the city
that I'd already been living infor about a year.

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Uh, and it, it lets you seethings from a different lens
when you're kind of playing atour guide.
So.
Yeah.
So I think that's one way ofdoing it.
Like maybe, you know, you pickthe country, your spouse picks
the city mm-hmm.
In the country, give them someoption as well, like in terms of
having an opinion on this and,and, and being a part of the
process as well.
Right.
Rather.
Yeah.
Because otherwise it just feelslike you're, like, you're.

(41:58):
Saying, okay, we're doing thisand you're giving them al almost
an ultimatum and that number,we're dumping it on them.
Dumping it on them.
Right.
That never feels good in arelationship, ever.
Yeah.
Or you know, we've, we've hadclients who do this.
We're like, okay, we know forsure it's this country and my
wife says it has to be this cityto start, right?
Mm-hmm.
She's also,'cause it's more of asoft landing, for example,
because it's more of a software.
You came from Miami.
So for, for Amanda Guadalajarawas a much softer landing than,

(42:21):
say, coming out here where we'rekind of a little bit more in the
sticks.
Right?
In the, in the boonies.
Guadalajara.
Small town life.
Exactly.
Small town life, hashtag smalltown life.
But at least Guadalajara was acity that wasn't that dissimilar
from Miami where you're from.
Mm-hmm.
And so we landed there.
It wouldn't have been my firstchoice to stay in Guadalajara,
but we compromised and it workedout.
Yeah.

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And now we're starting to talkabout other countries and things
like that.
And I'm sure we're gonnacompromise again.
But this is like a fluid ongoingconversation.
This isn't like a one and done,uh, kind of thing, which I think
is also really important for,for people to understand.
It's fluid, right?
It's a negotiation, it's acompromise, it's fluid.
Um, I think we are effectivelygetting into relationship

(43:03):
coaching a little bit here.
It's kind of funny.
It's kind of like the per, Imean, there's a personal side to
this kind of a lifestyle.
It's fat dating.
We, we gotta find this, we gottafind the domain.
Um, any other tips in terms oflike.
How to convince your spouse, um,to come along.
'cause you know, if you'redating, like I said, it's easy.
They're either with it orthey're not.
Yeah.
You know, and you move on.

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Yeah.
If you're married, I mean, and Ihate to say this guys, this is,
this is a little bit of a, of a,you know, perhaps darker side of
this, but if your life, youknow, you're, maybe, maybe you
have kids, maybe you don't,obviously it's a lot harder with
kids, but if you look at yourlife and your relationship and.
You want something like morethan anything else in the world,

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like you really wanna live inanother country and your spouse
is absolutely adamantly againstit, and there's no way to
convince them, number one,there's probably other values
that are mismatched and youwanna maybe really consider
taking a look at thatrelationship, perhaps going to
therapy together, understandingwhat's going on, because it
might not be that you're justtotally incompatible and you

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have to throw everything away.
It might just be that you needto.
To have the help of a, of acoach or a therapist or
somebody, kind of translatewhat's going on with one person
to, to what's going on in theother person's mind and see if
there maybe is a happy medium orperhaps your spouse is fearing
something and you can dosomething to kind of, to kind of
assu their, their, their fearsor their, or their concerns,

(44:30):
right?
So that, that's an option.
But if at the end of the day,even after therapy, after
conversations, afterunderstanding what you both want
and maybe you do realize, hey,like we're just not aligned
here.
Then you have to look at it and,and make really tough decisions,
tough decisions, and say, youknow, am I, am I really serious?
Am I really serious about thisand my commitment to want to, to
have a better life somewhereelse?

(44:52):
Am I, am I willing to sacrificethat for the sake of this
relationship?
Right?
Because either you're gonna havesomething in the back of your
head where you're always gonnawant this thing and you're gonna
feel like your spouse is keepingyou from it, and that's no
healthy way to be in arelationship.
Or maybe you realize, you knowwhat the relationship with your
spouse.
Uh, is, it is worth, at leastfor now, based on the cycle of

(45:14):
life that they're at currentlysacrificing and just saying no
to moving overseas.
And that's totally fine too.
But you gotta really do somesoul searching and some
meditating and look and see,like what's more important.
Are we aligned?
What am I willing to sacrifice?
What am I not willing tosacrifice?
How do you think, you know, ourinternational lifestyle, you
know, living in another country,frequent travel, even within,

(45:36):
even within Mexico, we're alwayson some adventure.
Um, how do you think that'sactually helped the
relationship?
'cause we were out to dinnerlast night at one of our
favorite restaurants here inHoCo that everybody recommends,
called LA ua, and we saw thiscouple.
At another table and they didn'tspeak to each other the whole
time.
They were just on their phone.

(45:57):
Just on their phones, texting.
Yeah.
Like those things.
And I was like, that's so sad.
They haven't said a word to eachother this entire dinner.
And I, I had mentioned to you, Iwas like, you know what?
I think this internationallifestyle is gonna help us avoid
that.
Avoid that.
Well, I think it's really coolbecause you guys are always
gonna have things to talk about.
You're, you're in a differentcountry.
Maybe every month, if you're anactual digital nomad, every few

(46:17):
weeks, you're really travelingaround maybe every six months,
maybe every year, maybe everyfew years.
Right.
But, but you're always expandingyour horizons.
You're learning a new languagetogether.
You're learning about a newculture together.
I mean, to me, like it's, it'sway I, I'm not just saying this
to flatter you, but like it's,it's just way more fun and way
more fulfilling to like be onall these adventures with you

(46:38):
than just to be doing all thisstuff by myself.
Yeah.
And in terms of what it does forthe relationship, uh.
As a, as a whole, like, yeah.
I just feel like we're growingtogether, so, so couples that
grow together, stay together.
When you're growing, you'reexpanding your consciousness,
you're, you're learning togetherand you are kind of in this
little bubble in a whole otherworld.
I think it makes you sticktogether even more.

(47:00):
Yeah.
Because you realize howimportant that other person is
for you.
You definitely also get verygood at teamwork and problem
solving.
Yeah.
We could talk about some, someof the pickles and predicaments
that we've had predicaments onour international, uh, travels.
Um, but I think that's important'cause maybe somebody's out
there listening to this andthey're like, oh my God, this is
gonna ruin my relationship'causethis is so stressful in so many

(47:22):
logistics and yeah, it can bevery stressful.
Yeah.
Uh, especially if you're tryingto do it by yourself.
So entrepreneurexpat.com/consult.
Ultimately, you know, at the endof the day, and I just thought
of one more fear, uh, that aspouse may have that and we can
end it there.
But at the end of the day, likeI do think it actually brings
people, uh, closer togetherbecause, or, or, you know, in

(47:45):
the other instance, makes themrealize that maybe they aren't
aligned.
Yeah.
Like I said, which, which isgreat too because it's all about
finding and it's, it's all aboutseeking the truth.
The truth for you as a personwho you are.
What you actually want tocreate, whether that's with that
person or, or not.
Yeah.
Final thing, right?
Someone might be concerned overhow much this move is going to

(48:06):
cost, right?
Mm-hmm.
Because yes, there's lower costof living in other countries,
and we'll get to how it allbalances out, but the initial,
let's just get this shit done,right?
It's like any other move, right?
Yeah.
When you move from one house tothe next in a, in a city, it's
expensive.
When you move from one countryto the other.
While you're figuring all thisstuff out, you're gonna be
shelling out more money in thefront, in the front end, because

(48:28):
it's just, moves are expensive.
It is what it is, you know?
So what do you have to say to.
Um, that part, and I know youprobably got a lot to say'cause
we just went through a move.
Well, I mean, we, we just wentthrough a move and we probably
spent including even getting thenew house fixed up and painted
and everything else, like maybea thousand dollars in the US
that would be like 5,000 plus.

(48:51):
Yeah.
Like on average in the us ifyou're moving, especially from
one side of the country to theother, you're spending thousands
of dollars.
Let's call it 5K.
On average, including otherthings you might have to buy or
stuff.
The brakes and a moving truckand movers and logistics and
everything else.
It's, it's thousands of dollars.
I, I'm not recommending you dothis, but if you were to go
through the whole immigrationprocess on your own, let's say

(49:11):
to Mexico, you would pro and,and you are okay getting rid of
most of your stuff and buying itagain here, where it's actually
gonna be cheaper anyway becauseit doesn't make sense to haul
all your shit from the US toMexico, like in almost any case,
right.
Or anywhere you're probablyright, you're probably gonna
spend less than$5,000 for aperson or, or even a couple to
go and do the immigrationprocess.
That's if you do it on your own,you're gonna have to invest

(49:32):
time.
There's a lot of logistics.
I'm not saying it's easy.
You'd be better off hiringsomebody like, uh, like working
with us, hiring our team to doit for you.
If you're in a position whereyou're time matters more than.
An extra 20 or$30,000 becauserealistically that's at a bare
minimum what it's gonna cost tohave somebody do the entire
relocation process and visa andimmigration, everything else

(49:53):
like tax strategy, everything.
Yeah, tax strategy, all that.
Like you're definitely sure it'sall of it.
You're definitely in the, yeah,in the, uh, the five figures
there easily.
If you're just doing it yourselfor maybe you're coming here for
a while to explore, you're notquite ready for residence or, or
whatever.
You just wanna move and, and trysix months or a year in another
country, and you can easily dothat with a tourist visa or
something like that.

(50:16):
You'd be better off selling yourstuff, buying new things, or
renting a furnish apartment inMexico and it's not nearly as
much as a furnish apartmentwould be in the states.
Yeah.
So even if there's upfrontcosts.
Yeah.
It's actually not that much.
It would still be less in mostcases than just a regular move.
Yeah.
But in between two cities in theUS Yeah.
Because I've moved a lot in mylife and it's thousands of
dollars.
Yeah.
Even if you rent the truck, youknow you're talking two 3000

(50:39):
between the rental and the gasand hotels along the way and.
Then once the upfront costs ofthe mover are over, and we're
experiencing that now, yeah, ourcost of rent, cost of living
went down by down 60, 70%.
Yeah.
So once you're past thatinitial, uh, part where you are
shelling out more money,although it would be less money

(50:59):
than the United States andprivate school's cheaper,
everything's cheaper, and food'scheaper and healthcare's
cheaper.
You just have to have to thinkabout investing for the long run
instead of letting those upfrontcosts, either emotional or
financial or whatever the, thetype of cost it is preventing
you from making a decisionthat's going to benefit you
significantly health wise,emotionally and financially and

(51:20):
relationally.
Yeah.
In the long run.
Yeah.
Anything else to add?
I think we pretty much coveredit.
I think we covered it did great.
Yeah.
Good job.
Go team.
Go team.
You wanna try mute?
No.
That's what we have, uh, todayon, on how to, how to get your
spouse on board with your planto move to another country.

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