EPIC Plans

🎙️ Jenn Gevertz & Barry Gevertz | Family, Trust & Real Estate That Lasts

Some people build pipelines.

Jenn & Barry built a legacy.

This isn’t just a real estate episode—it’s a masterclass in doing business with heart, across generations, without burning out or selling out.

We talk about:

• Scaling a real estate business while raising kids

• Building trust as a long game (not a gimmick)

• How Cutco shaped Jenn&...

David Tapper is a 27-year Coldwell Banker veteran who’s built a 90%+ referral business from trust, humility, and a lifetime of doing the right thing—especially when no one’s watching.

In this candid conversation, we unpack:

• How his why evolved from chasing success to building legacy

• The mindset behind training agents for loyalty and lift

• What AI might never replace in a trust-driven business

• The systems that will help him step into ...

Spencer Hsu has closed over $350M in under 8 years—and he did it with data, not drama. In this episode, we unpack how Spencer made the leap from tech sales to top producer, why YouTube is still his best lead source, and how he's using AI and team leverage to build his vision.

We talk about:
• Using analytics and data to cut through real estate noise
• Why YouTube leads outperform sphere leads
• Why AI isn't a gimmic...

Brett Jennings is the founder of Real Experts—the #1 mega team in the Bay Area, #4 in California, and #9 in the U.S.

But this isn't just about real estate production.

In this episode, we explore Brett’s journey from a near-death experience in college to meditating in the Himalayas… to building a billion-dollar real estate business rooted in purpose.

We talk about:

• How meditation shaped his leadership

• Why environment beats willpo...

What does it look like to rebuild not just your career—but your entire way of showing up in the world?

In this raw and reflective conversation, Nicole Aissa joins host Mitch Felix to walk through the pressure-forged chapters of her life and career. From title rep to real estate leader and back again—with stops that include brokerages, burnout, and bodybuilding—Nicole’s journey is a masterclass in growth through grit, reinvention wit...

Hilary Saunders built a community of 600 top-performing real estate teams across 18 states—and did it without chasing spotlight or ego.

In this premiere episode of the EPIC Plans Podcast, we dig into:

• Growing up in a family of entrepreneurs—and raising kids the same way

• Leaving a legal career when it started costing her who she wanted to become

• Starting a law firm and a real estate brokerage—at the same time

• The moment she realized ...

This isn’t a guest episode. It’s the full context—spoken, not scripted—behind what I’ve been building, why I walked away from Real Producers, and how a $9B case study turned into a trust-first AI ecosystem.

This message was originally recorded for a few trusted friends. I’m sharing it now because the podcast isn’t content—it’s a filter.

If you’re in the room, or near the edge of it, this explains the whole arc.

No pitch.
Just prese...

Recorded at 2:56 AM on April 16, 2025—this is the moment I realized the system I’d quietly built wasn’t just helping me function… it was protecting me.

In this episode:

• How I architected a trust framework using GTD, Evernote, and AI

• Why macro-incentives matter more than motivation in 2025

• What it means to thread integrity without becoming a target

• How neurodivergent design became my superpower—not a liability

• And why “just because it...