Epstein's Client “List” and Ghislaine Maxwell’s Prison Future

Elon Musk caused a storm this week bringing up the Epstein 'client list' and how the DOJ has suppressed it. But is there a list, and why are people talking about it?

Ghislaine Maxwell is to be sentenced soon so we look at her options for her incarceration.

Plus did Prince Andrew Is a Sweaty Nonce top the UK music charts and what about the Queen's Jubilee celebrations, did Prince Andrew join in?

Welcome to the countdown! Ghislaine Maxwell, The 60-year-old sex trafficker, now awaits sentencing in New York, due on June 28.


Once the friend of the rich and famous, she now awaits her fate in a New York City prison.

During the four-week trial, the government alleged: “Ghislaine Maxwell made her own choices. She committed crimes hand in hand with Jeffrey Epstein. She was a grown woman who knew exactly what she was doing.”

Moreover, she was found guilty by a jury of five out of the six charges, including sex trafficking a minor.

Maxwell’s sex trafficking charge may see a maximum prison term of 40 years. At her age, she will probably die in jail.

So what will life be like for her in a Federal facility?

Lisa asked her friend Bailey, who works in corrective services in Australia.

Links: Elon & Ghislaine https://jeffreyepsteinpodcast.com/2020/07/04/ghislaine-maxwell-socialite/?amp=1

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
A global criminal conspiracy, a prince, a jailed social aide, and a
billionaire who may or may not havebeen murdered. Welcome to the world of
the Jeffrey Epstein. The Prince andthe Pervert podcast journalists Lisa and Jan bring
you the ultimate deep dive. Hello, and welcome to The Prince and the

(00:22):
Pervert Podcast. My name is LisaTate and I'm Jen Tarren. Jen,
it's June. What does that mean? It's sentencing month. Yes, welcome
to the countdown. Ga Lane Maxwellis going to be sentenced on the twenty
eighth of June in New York.So what's going to happen to the six

(00:43):
trafficker? Once that decisions made?Jen, Well, she goes off to
well not camp, No, itwon't be camp. So I've got some
details on what her life may belike when she's in prison, and it
doesn't look good. Well, it'snot what she's used to, but it
could be a bit different to beingin solitary confinement in New York. She'll

(01:06):
have to deal with other people,fascinating and maybe even work. Yes,
well, that is part of whatI'm going to talk to you about.
Work is a big thing. Beingproductive for the first time ever. That's
right, So her dad set herup years ago in some kind of gift

(01:27):
buying situation. Sounds like a schemeone of the housewives, real housewives will
get into. Well, actually,a lady of London, right, Caroline.
What's her last name, Jen Stanbury, That's what I was referring to.
She was involved in that. Andyou will not believe me. Guess

(01:47):
who bancrolled Stanbury's business, gift buyingbusiness and oligarc the Prince Andrew was in
love with. Yes, see,I listened to our episodes. You do
so be interesting for Glene having tobe productive. She did say that she
was teaching French to some of theprisoners. She was also in solitary and

(02:08):
her family at the time was sayingshe was teaching French to guards and other
prisoners, but then complaining that shecouldn't talk to anyone. Now, that's
the other thing. Was she counselingsuicidal inmates? She did a course.
Remember, we'll be interesting to seewhat a family comes up with now,
because aren't they going to the UNwith their complaints the United Nations? Oh,

(02:30):
they'll probably go to King Neptune aswell. Exactly, So be interesting
to see what comes up on theirTwitter account. I got a bit distracted
today. I was going to checkit, but there's a lot more going
on. What have you got,Chen, Well, I've got Elon Musk.
Where's the Epstein client list? Andan update on my favorite comedian from

(02:53):
Essex whose name is spelled Kunt andhis series of songs about Prince Andrew is
a sweety nonce and how that wentin the charts. Now, some people
may not know what a nance isbecause I didn't. And it's an English
word that means pedophile. Really youdidn't know nance? I suppose with my

(03:14):
background it's sort of common lingo aroundhere. We don't say that where I
come from. So, but PrinceAndrew has COVID COVID fourteen. So Glene
was once the friend of the richand famous, but she's now awaiting her
future in a New York City prison. And during her four week trial,

(03:34):
the government alleged Glene Maxwell made herown choices. She committed crimes hand in
hand with Jeffrey Epstein. She wasa grown woman who knew exactly what she
was doing. Moreover, she wasfound guilty by a Jerry A five out
of the six charges, including sextrafficking a minor, So Maxwell's sex trafficking
charge may see a maximum prison termof a forty years. Did you notice

(03:59):
someone else Josh Dugger who was partof the nineteen Kids in Counting show.
He was recently sentenced in another partof the country and he's related to child
pornography child abuse material and he gothalf of what the maximum was, So
it'll be interested to see what Maxwellgets. Well. No, because the
maximum is forty for only one ofthe charges. Remember, she's being sentenced

(04:24):
with three charges. They may dothe sentencing concurrently, which often happens here
in Australia. So it may bejust what the maximum is is what she
gets if they compound all the timeand the time is served together, or
it might be more. But anyway, at her age, she's sixty,
she'll probably die in prison regardless,So what will her life be like in

(04:47):
a federal facility. I asked myfriend Bailey, who works in corrective services
here in Australia, just to giveme a general idea, and what he
said was fascinating. He mentioned oneprisoner who had quote he spent his time
in segregation from the other petos becausefor some strange reason, prisoners believe their
own crimes are exempt from judgment.In other words, a pedo who did

(05:12):
the same thing as him would lookdown on him for doing what he did.
Does that make sense? Do asI say, not as I do
type of thinking exactly. Plus,they might think they can extort her,
that's what he said. She,in my opinion, will integrate with those
who want or think they can getmoney out of her, and the money
is the main thing. So she'sdefinitely a target, but can be kept

(05:36):
safish inside depending on how scared sheis. Now that's interesting. How scared
do you think she's going to be? Because she is full of front,
full of front, But is ittrue? Is she really scared? Like
she's been banging on. She wantedto be in gen Pop, but I
think she'd be too scared when facedwith the reality of what gen pop is,

(05:58):
or even a sequester unit for pedophiles. Yeah, well, she might
be amongst her people and like it. Who knows. Oh, she'll have
a little crew and she can teachthem things. Well, you know.
Kelly Lane, the baby murderer InAustralia, she played for New South Wales
in water polo. But she's beenin jail now since about twenty and ten

(06:19):
and she is the head of thecrew. Even the staff love her.
If you've watched the old prisoner cellblock h she would have been the bee
but except b didn't like drugs.No, I didn't like anyone hurting children.
Yes, because some of the womenin there may have been hurt themselves.

(06:42):
So okay, Bailey said, shewill get belted eventually, but they
will move her around the center orthe system to keep her from being a
massive news story. The stuff yousee on TV where prison officers turn a
blind eye is not real. Thereare too many CCTV bodycam and other things
to prevent corrupt behavior in that form. We shall see. But she won't

(07:04):
be sent to a nice little placelike Martha Stewart was, will she.
I have been told no, andpeople are saying she may go to a
federal facility that is near Texas.Oh so, moving right along here,
Jen, would you like to knowwhat is some clink etiquette according to Town
and Country dot com, Because townand Country dot com and no, well,

(07:27):
yeah, they've got all sorts ofpeople that they've been reporting on a
lot of the Trump linked people aswell. So earsdropping or ear hustling,
that's what they call it in prison. Don't do that. It's not going
to fly. Refrain from busting intoyour new bunk like it's your college dorm.
Personal space is a big deal here. Upon receiving a bunk assignment,

(07:48):
knock and introduce yourself to your roommatebefore barging in with your stuff, so
she'll have to share. Oh,that'd be your first. White collar type
should keep their ink to network incheck, especially when it comes to the
correctional officers. Befriending them can leadto more harm and good. It's more
important to avoid being labeled a bootliquor by your fellow inmates. Now,

(08:11):
Jen, here's one for your missMaxwell. Order the mackerel tins at the
commissary. They'll come in handy later. Trust us. Do you want to
know why? Does it involve puttingthem in a sock and swinging them around?
Well, it could involve that,but people use them to do weights.
Oh that makes sense. Yes,Now, just one more thing that

(08:33):
Bailey said to me. Criminals dofind a way to do stuff and find
a way to hide that. Soit is possible maybe someone could get to
her. There are no guarantees.Now. I don't know if anyone else
knew this. This is something newI've come across. There are all these
services for white collar criminals, Jenthat if you're going to jail, they'll
prepare you sort of like you cango and hire them an adviser. Yeah,

(08:58):
like a lawyer or an accountant.That's insane. It also says something
about the justice system. Okay,So you remember when we were obsessed a
while ago about the college scams withthe rich people paying money to get their
kids in on so called athletic paths. Do you remember that, Oh that
was brilliant. Yes, well,one of those women, she actually one

(09:20):
of the actresses. She employed oneof these firms to help her through her
time in prison. Okay, Maxwell, family, start taking notes. This
is from the prison fellowship, Jen, finding your feet. During your first
few months, you will stick outas the new guy. Fellow prisoners may
offer to help or tell you whatto do. Much of this vice is
well intended and will help keep youout of trouble with both officers and your

(09:45):
fellow prisoners. They might tell youwhen to talk and when to be quiet.
I would need that, so wouldI. They will show you where
to line up for chow counts,fresh clothes and linens, the chapel visiting
room, and the commissarire. Aftera while, you were not one person
or a small group often from yourown living area, looking out for you

(10:05):
and providing good information. One keyplace to look for people of character is
the chapel programs. I was goingto say, will she find religion?
Her mom was a Protestant and herdad was Jewish. Wasn't she into Buddhism
for a while. That's why herand Epstein were vegan. She could try
any then she could fit right in. She's a bit of an actress,

(10:28):
so she's a chameleon exactly. She'dprobably go to every service when you go
to America, I want you to. I want to send you down to
her. But that's not very nice. Just by yourself, is it?
Oh? Do it? You doit? Okay. Many states manage faith
based pods or units. This isfascinating, like the prison Fellowship Academy and
others. So there's a world ofdifference in these units, and you're less

(10:52):
likely to become a victim of violence. That's interesting. They stick all their
Amish together, not that I couldsee many of those in jail, but
all the different religions in some facilitiessort of get bump together. On another
site that I was looking at,they were referring to it as inmate stratification.
And the biggest thing is in Americais race. I think that happens

(11:15):
here as well. Now, jinprotecting yourself, be careful owing anyone anything.
Debts in or out of prison arefuture trouble. They don't add much
to your respect either. The billmay come to you at an awkward or
unexpected time. Avoid asking for favorsfrom people you don't know. Everything has
a price. Avoid volunteering information aboutyour personal life until you know you can

(11:37):
trust someone well. For her,they will all know who she is.
Firstly, their families might know,and they will tell them. So.
The prisoners have access to law intranet, so they can look up all the
cases, the entire docket, sothey'll know everything. She is high profile.
As they told you when they readyou the Miranda rights, it may

(11:58):
be used against you and more thanyou talk. Don't whine or complain.
Everyone is suffering. Learn in duit and you can make a good transition
to prison life. Now, Ijust quickly wanted to talk about sex offenders
in the federal prison system. Sopeople do try to hide it, but
people will work it out after awhile. There are some people who simply

(12:20):
can't pass themselves off as anything otherthan a sex offender, perhaps because they're
not looking too convict, or becausethey simply exude fear, which is what
Bailey said, this group's tends tohave serious problems. Sex offenders who can't
pass themselves off as something else willtypically find themselves in an undesirable position.
They're sitting ducks, they are evenwithin their own units. Now, as

(12:45):
we all know, the pre sentencingreport is due, we won't see that
on the docket, just like wedidn't see the pre trial review that they
did when they first took her intocustody. I know people are looking and
freshing and hoping to get hold ofit, but I doubt we'll see it
on the docket. It may getleaked later on. Man, that'd be

(13:07):
superb reading that one, wouldn't itabsolutely. So that's me giving Gallaine a
few tips. But this time Ididn't tell her how to make best use
of raman noodles, because we've coveredthat in previous podcasts and toilet wine exactly.
I've done my bit there, youhave as well, So onto the
next bit. So on Twitter recently, I've been copying a lot of the

(13:30):
DOJ has been suppressing the client list. This is outrageous. How dare they?
Blah blah blah. And of courseElon Musk, who we all know
as that oligarch, and let's callhim an oligarch because he is, he
was going to buy Twitter. Andthen while doesn't seem like it's happening,
but a day ago he stirred upthis controversy again. He tweeted. Only

(13:54):
thing more remarkable than d o Jnot leaking the list is that no one
in the media cares. Doesn't thatseem odd I'm sorry Elon and anybody else
who's carrying on about this list.By concentrating on this list, you are
denying the voices of the victims whohave spoken out and name names. You

(14:16):
are denying the fact that evidence existsof these names. We're talking about the
depositions the victims have made where theyhave named names. We're talking about the
flight logs that have been tabled asevidence that name names. We're talking about
the photographs that have been taken andshared widely with people who could possibly be

(14:39):
on that client list. We're talkingabout the black book, so I tweeted
in response. People keep saying thatthe client list has been hidden in the
Epstein Galaine Maxwell case. Fuck thelist. The names are in photos,
flight logs, black books, divorcechords, financial scandals, named in court

(15:01):
in g Max's trial. And asfor that now arrests have been made.
Well there hats except it's been ina different country. John Lucbrenell, who
was also an associate of Epstein's andgot him girls, a good close friend
of Galai Maxwell's. He was arrested, and remember Virginia Roberts due Frey.

(15:22):
She provided evidence to the French authoritiesthat helped get him arrested and charged.
Of course, as we spoke aboutlast week, he's suicided in jail on
Prince Andrew's birthday. Okay, Andcontinuing on with my tweet, the constant
carry on about a list of Epsteinclients being suppressed is actually a huge dead

(15:45):
cat. Certain people want you tofocus so hard on the suppression that you
don't actually notice the names that areout there in public. Even Elon is
pushing the suppression angle because those nameshave been named. Virginia Roberts, Dufray
and the other survivors have named names, and everyone carrying on about the suppression

(16:08):
of the list, you are invalidatingwhat these survivors have been telling you for
years. You're invalidating the court evidence. Listen to these women. These women
matter, and they've been speaking outfor years. This list is just basically
a dead cat. And for thoseof you who don't know what a dead

(16:29):
cat is, say Lisa and Iare fighting over who gets the last piece
of cake and we're going for it, and then my partner walks in and
throws a bottle of champagne on thetable. All of a sudden, all
we can talk about is the champagne. This client list that the DOJ has
suppressed is a bloody dead cat,and it's really offensive to keep pushing it

(16:51):
because it invalidates what the survivors havebeen saying for years. And people are
acting like it's new and they're saying, has the media done? And I
said, for a start, aroundtwo thousand and eight in Florida, they
were reporting on it, and thenVirginia came out in the UK media in
two thousand and eleven, for God'ssake, in two and fifteen, when
I lived in Bali, i readabout it. That's the first time I

(17:15):
knew about it. So people actingas though this information, as you said,
is being suppressed or withheld by everyone. It just doesn't pan out.
So think about what they don't wantyou to be talking about when they're pushing
this angle. Now, Elon's beenpushing this line. Maybe it's because his
company isn't doing so well. Maybeit's to send eyes off the fact he's

(17:38):
not buying Twitter, or maybe it'sbecause of that infamous photo bomb. There's
a Social photo or Getty images ofhim at a Vanity Fair Oscar party with
Galaine in the background. Now,as a former Social Pages editor, it
wasn't a setup photo. She obviouslyhad moved in behind. I wouldn't run
a photograph with that com position.But it doesn't mean that he was completely

(18:03):
photo bombed. What it means isthat she was in his vicinity, very
close when the photographer wandered up.So maybe Elon Musk is trying to disassociate
himself from the client list. I'llput a link in the show notes on
Gallaine's history of photo bombing, andit's so blatant, But it also means
that she was in the vicinity ofthese people when the photographer wandered past.

(18:29):
So many of them may have beentalking to her but didn't want to be
in a photograph with her, andshe's forced it. What I found really
weird about that photo with Elon Muskwas there was also another taken that night
with the Vanity Fair editor who claimedthat Epstein killed his cat and left a
bullet casing on his doorstep. Butyet he's talking to Gallayne and he would

(18:51):
have looked into Epstein. Surely hewould have known back then that Glene and
Epstein were like, I don't know, Bibbon Bob. Yes, there's a
lot of holes in a few stories. So if anyone comes at me again
with the client list, I'm justgoing to gift war you for being stupid.
I know a lot of people areonly getting to this case and finding

(19:12):
out about it, but there isso much there. Go and read a
few depositions. They're all on theinternet. You can find them if you
go to our website Jeffrey Epstein podcastdot com. We have a page that
links directly to some of the depositionsI have recorded. Virginia Roberts Dufrey has
been saying these names for years,as have other survivors. So the client

(19:37):
list, stop falling for a deadcat, stop falling for a sci op,
because that's what it is. Theywant to drag your attention away from the
names that are already out there.Now, last week we spoke about my
mate K Bomb and his wonderful seriesof songs that he released for the Coen's

(19:59):
Jubilee Week in the UK. Now, the title is Prince Andrew is a
Sweaty nonce And as Lisa explained,a nonce is someone who likes children.
Not usually used in Australia, butit's a common name in the UK.
K Bonb released these songs and theywent off. But however, these days,

(20:19):
how they compile the charts, it'snot just sales of songs, but
also streaming comes into it. Sowhen you stream, you're sort of renting
it for the moment, you're notactually buying or downloading, so that counts
as well as someone buying it.So his stuff isn't really streamable a lot
of places. When they published thecharts, they wouldn't even give the link

(20:42):
to where you could download these songs. So I spoke to him last night
and said, how did it allgo? And he went number twenty.
Edie was the number one selling single, sold twice as many as Kate Bush.
That's incredible, but with streaming factoredin, it knocked us back.

(21:03):
So many shenanigans by the system acrossthe week, but we did everything we
could and definitely found thousands of kindredspirits who agree with the sentiment. Because
it was for sale on bandcamp,iTunes and Amazon. He sent me a
link to the Amazon chart and ofcourse running up that hill was number one,

(21:26):
and on number two was Prince Andrewis a Sweaty Knnce. So apparently
they were on number two most ofthe week on Amazon and iTunes, but
of course they factored in streaming.So I went looking and so many news
articles were written about the song allthrough Britain and in Italy, Spain,

(21:47):
Sweden. It was big news.However, they wouldn't spell out his name,
understandable even though it's a K bombnot a C bomb, but many
of the places refused to spell outknots, so instead of NNC it was
in dot dot, which is abit silly. It's not a bad word
and it's not a swear word.It's a description. So he's done massively

(22:11):
well during the Queen's jubilee. Butin other Prince Andrew news, the Archbishop
of Canterbury made a plea that everyoneshould forgive Andrew. So he spoke to
ITV News and he said that PrinceAndrew was seeking to make amends having settled
his sexual abuse lawsuit, and thatwe must and I quote learn to be

(22:37):
more open and forgiving society. Thearchbishop said, he recognize there's very deep
feelings indeed with issues of abuse,intensely personal and private, and it wasn't
right to tell people how to respondabout this. We have become a very

(22:57):
unforgiving society, he said. So, of course, for those of you
in America who don't know, theArchbishop of Canterbury is part of the Anglican
Church. And guess whose head ofthe Anglican Church. That's right, the
Queen Andrew's mother read the room,guys. So Prince Andrew unfortunately couldn't be

(23:22):
with the Queen for the jubilee becauseof a sudden onset of COVID fourteen I
did at first say it was monkeypoxbecause I am a doctor on the internet,
but no, it's COVID. Wetried to get that roomor going,
didn't we, Jen, But itjust didn't happen. Oh, because of
the client list overtook us exactly.So thank you all so much for joining

(23:42):
us. June is a big monthfor everyone, so we will be here
covering it every step of the way. I'm at least a podcast, Jen
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(24:04):
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(24:25):
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Hello everyone. I'm just day thatmiddle aged, cranky, apparently allegedly

(24:47):
middle aged woman who's stuck in Jen'slaundry. In yes, I do have
an Oxbridge accent. If that's whatyou're asking, really badly done, but
I try anyway. All this talkabout jail has got me worried. But
to calm, to soothe my fracturednerves, I also have been reading Lisa.

(25:08):
I managed to get back onto theinternet. So these work duties everybody
wants me to do well, I'mnot going in the laundry. I've seen
what beast Smith does to people withthe press. So instead, I'm going
to manufacture my own role within thatjail. But as yet I don't know
what it will be. Maybe Iwill be a stylist, a fashion expert.

(25:30):
The toilet wine does sound interesting,so I'm thinking viticulturalist is my best
option. And for those who don'tknow what my big words actually mean,
that means I make wine or booze. I think that would suit me rather
well. Plus great currency in theclink. Or I could be like several

(25:52):
of my Epstein assistants an interior designer. Just go and check out Kelen's previous
work. That's Sarah Helen. Youwill see how my wonderful style Rubbedolph on
her. Anyway, as always,up yours Hi, it's Lisa here.

(26:15):
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(26:37):
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