October 22, 2023 • 67 mins
Animals and Afterlife - Q&A - with Ronnie King.
A conversation about animals and afterlife, through my own experiences and although is not the main part of my work, it is something that I do from time to time.
It is always an honour to connect with a beloved soul and often it is the animal that chooses to connect with me, so I can pass on any messages they wish to share with their loved ones.
The book below is a beautiful book I read many years ago, about a woman who wanted answers, to events that happened after she lost some of her beloved animals.
You will never look at your animals in the same way again.
So sit back, relax and I hope you enjoy this episode.
Note: You will find links below for the people I mentioned.
A section from one of Kim's books:
Animals and the Afterlife
Do animals have souls?
What happens when they die?
This book offers some amazing answers.
Kim Sheridan grew up with animals as her constant companions. Each time she faced the death of a beloved animal, along with the pain came the same questions, to which she could find no answers. Then mysterious things began to happen which she could not explain. Unable to dismiss these mysterious events, Kim embarked upon what became an incredible journey to uncover the truth. Along with her own experiences, she compiled the extraordinary experiences of ordinary people from around the world. She discovered overwhelming evidence that forever erased her own doubts of an afterlife for animals. Kim’s award-winning book provides reassurance to anyone who has ever loved and lost an animal.
http://www.AnimalsAndTheAfterlife.com
http://kimsheridan.com/books
https://nextlevelsoul.com/podcast
https://nextlevelsoul.com/karen-anderson-pet-afterlife
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Ronnie (00:00):
Welcome.
(00:00):
My name is Ronnie from EquineVoices I'm excited to do a chat
tonight about animals andafterlife.
The idea of this came aroundbecause I was listening to a
podcast the other day and it wasa lady called Karen Anderson,
and she was on the Next LevelSoul.
And I've shared it on this page.
(00:21):
So hopefully if you'reinterested, you can click on it,
so it's Alex Ferrari, Next LevelSoul, and it has some amazing,
amazing podcasts.
And It was really interestingfor me because there was a lot
of similarities.
I'm just trying to slow mytalking down now because I've
been rushing.
It feels really weird talking tomyself and not having somebody
(00:42):
to chat with, which is a bitbizarre.
So we've got a few peoplejoining, hi Celia, hi Martha.
I think that's Martha.
So what I'm going to do is justhave a little chat and wait for
people to join, hopefully, andmaybe get some questions that
you can ask me about animalcommunication.
(01:02):
Because it's not just aboutchatting with animals that are
still in the physical body.
Sometimes you get communicationfrom animals that have passed
over, hence the title.
And it is no different, apartfrom not seeing the physical,
than chatting with an animalthat is still on the earth plane
and for me personally, we'redifferent for everybody.
(01:25):
And there are communicators outthere that specialize in
connecting with animals thathave passed over.
We don't like to say deadbecause they're not dead it's
just the physical isn't hereanymore.
But for me, what happens is theynormally connect with me and it
may be that a client that I'vebeen to see had an animal that's
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passed over and they link insomehow.
So I don't always initiate it,but sometimes I will connect.
So if I see a friend's horse orsometimes on Facebook, I see a
horse that is passed over andsometimes I'll get a link in and
I can pass any messages on topeople I may know or, or through
a third party.
(02:08):
But it's fascinating.
It's really fascinating.
So if you're really interested,I have got a few books that I
think I've shared before andI'll try and find out the titles
again.
Because they make things a biteasy and a bit clearer, and it
varies depending on thecommunicator, but the basis of
it is, is generally the same.
(02:31):
Once again, if anybody wants toask any questions, please feel
free and then I can answer them.
So what I'll do is I'll share astory because when I was
thinking about what I was goingto talk about.
I was in my car and straightaway this horse popped in and
he's a, he's a beautiful, abeautiful funny boy and he's
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been around me for quite awhile.
He's not my horse, he's somebodyI know and I did see him when he
was alive and he pops in.
But as soon as I was thinkingabout this, it was like tell him
my story, tell him my story.
So I'm not going to say who itis, I have talked about him
before and the person knows, butI'm not going to mention his
name, but it was it was a storyto share and he wanted me to
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share it.
I was basically driving home oneday and I got this feeling of
this horse and the person.
So that's how it comes for me.
I'll be driving, whatever I'mdoing.
The person will pop in or theanimal pops in.
So this is a horse that's passedover and It's a feel to start
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with and maybe a couple of wordsand what I do is I pay
attention.
Now, if I'm really busy, such asdriving, I acknowledge it and
carry on doing what I'm doingand then they'll pop in again.
So I'll go, okay, that's thesecond time.
And then the third time is mysign, which was very similar to
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Karen Anderson, the othercommunicator that I talked about
earlier.
She said, when I get it threetimes, I know I have to pass it
on.
So the third time this messagecame through, I thought, okay,
okay I hear you.
And I pulled over and.
I just typed in what I wasgetting into my phone and passed
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the message on to this personand straight away I got a text
back saying that's so funnybecause what you've just said
and you described is What heused to do to me.
So he used to pull at a t shirt,he pulled at a t shirt and she
happened to have that t shirt onthat day with holes in it where
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he'd been pulling at it.
So that was confirmation for herthat I was connecting to her
horse.
But it was really funny becauseit's just how he came in and he
just wanted her to know thathe's still around.
So I sent the rest of themessage and then I carried on my
journey.
But it's just interesting howthey come, again, that's not one
that I was connecting tointentionally.
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He popped into my awareness.
So I passed that message on.
Oh, we've got a few more people.
Hello from South Africa.
Oh, how exciting.
Has anybody got any questions?
Yeah I know Martha's here.
Lovely Martha and Celia.
I know you two guys are here.
Tyrone from South Africa hello?
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And Jane hi Jane.
Hi Joe.
Oh, bless you, Joe.
Okay, I'm just gonna put thislittle comment up'cause this is
Joe.
So Joe says, hi, Ronnie.
I'm going to read this out forthe benefit of the audio
afterwards.
Hi, Ronnie.
We'll never forget when youcontacted me when Bonnie made
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you stop your car, be forevergrateful, Joe.
Oh, you're more than welcome.
It's so funny.
So what happens is I don't knowthe information that comes
through is relevant until I getsome feedback.
So I get a feel, okay and I geta name of the horse or the
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person.
And sometimes it's just a feelof something and until I type or
record, cause that's what I donow.
I quite often record and thensend the voicemail until I start
to say.
What is the first few words, therest of the information then
follows.
And it's only enough so that theperson understands the message
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and knows that it's their horsethat I'm connecting to.
So I don't have to have thewhole picture.
And it might be that they justwant them to know that they're
there cause they can feel maybethey've been sad, or maybe
they've been thinking about thembecause, when people pass over,
their energy, their spirit isstill around, so it's exactly
the same, they want their lovedones and their companions and
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their friends to know thatthey're okay and not to be sad.
Now that doesn't mean to saythat we don't miss them.
We don't miss the physical.
We don't miss that.
that smell of their fur, theirhair, the feel of them the
little things they do.
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We miss that, we miss thetactile companion because that's
what we are familiar with.
And that's what we, that's whatwe know.
So it doesn't mean to say thatyou don't mourn an animal when
they pass, but they don't wantyou to feel that they're not
there.
Okay.
They do not want you to feelthat they have gone and they
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can't come close to you becausethey do, but quite often if
you're, if you're too distraughtor it's too painful, they will
be close to you, but you may notfeel them at that point, but
they will make themselves knownaware to you in some way.
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I'm trying to think of anexample.
So the message that I gave to aclient of mine, the fact that he
kept tugging at her t shirt,making holes in it, and she had
the same t shirt on that day, assoon as I passed that message
on, that was confirmation toher.
Which was lovely, which wasreally, really lovely.
(08:16):
It's so nice.
We've got lots of people.
Thank you so much for joining.
Thank you.
I sometimes see my cat.
Yeah.
Sometimes you might see what youthink is at the corner of your
eye.
Like a foggy feeling, or you maybe doing your housework or
you're, you're sat theredaydreaming and you feel that
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there's something there.
And you look and then you think,no, it's my imagination.
What if it wasn't yourimagination?
Okay, what if it wasn't?
What if it was somebody there?
Either a relative or an animalsaying, I'm here.
And they do come round us moreand they try to be heard or seen
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when you're sad.
So if you're really sad oryou're going through a hard
time, they want you to know thatit's okay.
They're here.
Please don't worry, they'rehere.
They don't want you to feelguilty.
There's no need to have guilt.
You do your best with youranimals and you look after them.
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And as long as they have theneeds met, they have shelter,
they have food, they havewarmth, and they have love.
You don't have to be perfect.
They don't expect that.
They are so forgiving.
And it's so unconditional.
They love you unconditionally.
And that's why it hurts when welose them.
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When they pass, it hurts becausethey depend on us to do all of
these things, to feed them, tolook after them, to take them
for walks, to be with them.
And as they get older, they getfrustrated too, but again, they
don't, they don't expect you tobe perfect.
(10:06):
We've got some more comments.
I'll read them shortly.
Thank you so much.
And when it's their time to go.
They know how hard it is, theyknow how difficult it is to let
them go.
And there is no right and wronganswer.
Okay?
Because when it's your animal,you do your best for them, and
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you hope they stay, and youthink, Is it?
Time now or shall I wait so youhave this struggle you have this
conversation with yourself, butthat's normal That's what we do.
So if I give you an example ofmy own little Maisie she was a
three legged whip it so she hadone leg in missing at the front.
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So but it didn't stop herenjoying her life and Yeah I can
feel that motion now and I knowshe's still around And because
she had three legs, as she gotolder, her little frail body,
because she's a whippet, if youcan imagine, it's like a little
chicken drumstick at the front,very thin bones, and her little
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back was getting more arched andbent as she got older, but she
still got around.
Arthritis was setting in.
And as you do, you ask yourselfthe question, you know, I said
to Maisie, let me know when it'stime to go.
Maisie.
Please tell me, or if not me,tell somebody I know so that I
get, I get the answer.
And, and then you sort of putit, to the back of your head.
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And I asked this quite early on,and then that was it.
That was fine.
And she felt like she stillwanted to be around.
And then one day, she'd beenstruggling and going for walks.
She'd had a few accidents youknow, sort of having a wee
before I'd got home and she waslike, Oh, I'm so sorry I'm so
sorry.
And it's like, it doesn'tmatter.
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It doesn't matter.
It's not your fault.
And they came in one day, busy,busy bee, come in and took her
for a walk, got my tea, come inand she was lied there.
And I just put my hand on her.
And I said, it's getting time,isn't it, Maisie?
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And I just knew that it wascoming up to her time.
I can't really say exactly whathappened.
It was just a knowing I justknew.
However, I still neededconfirmation that I was picking
up right for my own animal youknow, Maisie.
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So I asked a friend, who I dosometimes, just for
confirmation.
I don't tell her any details.
I just say, can you tune in?
And then she gives me what shefeels, which goes with what I'm
feeling.
And she confirmed that, yes it'sgetting close not quite yet,
but...
It's getting close.
So of course, being a human, Isaid, how long have I got, I'll
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be talking weeks, months, and itwas, I think it was a couple of
months.
It was coming up to Christmas.
So I thought, okay, I thought,right, I'm going to give her a
good Christmas.
And And that's what we did.
And as I'm talking about this,my legs are shaking under the
table.
So our emotions are stored inour body and we don't forget it.
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And it does hurt because they'reour loved ones and I can feel
tears coming up so if I startcrying, I'm not going to make
any apologies because this is,this is life.
So it doesn't stop that feel.
It doesn't stop that, that feelbecause we loved them so much.
We still love them.
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We loved them.
We put our heart and soul and AsI said, they are unconditional,
so it doesn't take away from thepain, but for me, it doesn't
last because I know she'saround, so that's old emotions
that are trapped in my body,because it's remembering that,
okay, it's remembering that feelof loss, and it doesn't just, It
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means the loss of an animal, itwill be a loss to whatever loss
you've had, it will attachitself to that.
So sometimes the emotions can beso extreme, so extreme because
you're mourning the loss of yourloved pet, but it might be that
you've lost a person too, andyou're not consciously thinking
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about it, but it will be therein your body.
Okay.
I don't know why I'm talkingthis way, but maybe somebody's
listening to this and it mightbe a help because this is just
what's flowing through now.
And it was a time I wasdetermined to be there.
I wanted to be there.
So I made the decision what dayit was going to be.
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So I made a choice and I was allprepared to go on my own.
And then my dear friend, Samsays, would you like me to come
with you?
And I said, Yes, please.
So she did.
And she came with me.
So we took her to the vets andthe vets were lovely.
And I took her in and they said,Oh, what can we do?
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Because I've taken it before.
And I said, It's a time.
And they said, Oh, we can dotests and we can do this and we
can prolong her life.
And I went, No, it's a, it's atime to go.
It's a time to leave she wantsto go home.
So she did.
She went home and it was verypeaceful.
It was very beautiful.
And then I came home and buriedher.
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In the field where my horse isAnd Sam and the girls, her
children came out.
And helped me dig a hole becauseit was bloody hard work.
Cause it was, it was clay soil.
And we put Maisie in there andit was, it was beautiful, but
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she's still around and she'soften in the car with me.
And it's so funny because shealways used to be in my car.
I'll often be driving and, andfeel her and I go, hi Maisie.
So I can think about her andit's not heart wrenching but
when I think about the story.
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I'm going through the story andI'm explaining it to you.
The emotions are attached to thestory, okay?
Not to Maisie, because she'sstill here.
They're attached to the story ofwhat happened.
So I'm saying that again becauseI think maybe somebody needs to
hear that.
So it doesn't not take away fromthe sadness or the loss of that
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physical smell, the feel, thelittle nicker of the horse or
the dog barking or the cat,whatever the animal is, does not
take away from that.
So don't feel guilty.
Allow that to come through youbecause that's mourning and
that's what you need, but theyare not gone.
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I promise you a hundred percent.
They are not gone.
They are still here.
Okay.
Right.
I'm gonna see who else iscommented.
Hi Pam.
Nice to see you too.
Nice to see you too.
So I don't know who this is, butI'm going to put it up and
again, I'm going to read it forthe benefit of the audio,
because this is going to be madeinto a podcast.
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After my horse Crystal passed, Ikept seeing a giant moth in the
strangest places.
And after my darling old girl,my solid dog passed away, there
was a white feather in a foodbowl are there real signs?
They would send or just what wewanted to see?
No, no, absolutely.
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So you know the thing about ifyou see a red car or say you are
thinking of buying a new car andyou like a red Ferrari.
Okay, at my price range, but heyho a red Ferrari.
Then you'd be driving along, youthink, oh my god, I've just seen
a red Ferrari.
Maybe not a Ferrari.
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Let's say Fiesta, a red Fiesta,and then you go around the
corner There's another redFiesta, and then there's another
red Fiesta.
It's not that you're looking atthem But your awareness is more
open to seeing them.
Signs are no different.
A sign for you May be differentto somebody else.
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If you saw a feather, and youfelt in your heart that was a
sign, it's because it is a sign.
Somebody else might see that andit might mean nothing to them.
If a sign for you was a buzzardflying over, and you heard a
buzzard and you looked up, thatis your sign.
It's whatever it is to you.
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That is your sign and if youfeel that in your heart, that's
what it is.
Sometimes you can feel likebutterflies or cobwebs.
That is another sign orsomething push past your legs.
Cats are brilliant at that.
You might feel something or youmaybe you're watching the TV and
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you go to eat your leg becauseyou think something's just.
Stroked it, that could be yourdog, your cat.
Horses connect anywhere becauseobviously they don't live in our
living rooms.
You could be driving along, youcan be thinking about your
animal and then you get thisfeel and you might say, Oh, I've
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only got that because I wasthinking about them.
Why did you think about them inthe first place?
They show themselves by cominginto your thoughts.
And you might think, why am Ithinking of them?
It's because they're sayinghello, connect to me.
A little example, when I'mcommunicating, when I get
messages okay?
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I will get messages all thetime.
And Sometimes I will get themessage as I'm passing a certain
point on my journey.
Now you could think, okay, Ipassed that point last time I
got a message.
So I think that's just making methink I'm going to get another
message.
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And that's happened.
And I'm ignoring that because Ithink it's because I've passed
that point where I got my lastmessage and I'd carry on driving
and then they come back again, Ithink, no.
It's just because I passed.
It might be near where they liveor a journey to them or just
where you've had the messagebefore at this certain point.
And then the third time, that'smy sign.
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So I acknowledge it.
I text or voice message themessage, pass it on.
And then when I get a replysaying it makes sense.
I think, okay.
So don't ignore it, even if youthink it's your imagination,
because you won't know until youacknowledge it.
If you acknowledge it and youget a nice feel, then that's it.
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It's not always massive, bigthings.
It's not like a billboardsaying, hello, I am here can you
see me?
It can be really subtle andvery, very soft.
It can be when you're driftingoff to sleep, it can make you
smile that you think about themand you have a smile and maybe a
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little tear that's them sayinghi, because if you feel them in
your heart, that's where theyare.
They are still with you.
You are part of them as they arepart of you, your energy.
Is the same.
Okay, it's the same and it'svery beautiful and it's very
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personal to each person.
So, if you have any questions,we've had one, which I hope I've
answered.
Did I answer that question, bythe way?
I don't know who you are, so Ido apologize, but I hope I've
answered your question.
Okay, I connected with Ashley,my husband's horse, which I
never met Martha.
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Yes! Yeah.
Recently I've been gettingmessages for people, for horses
I've not met.
So I don't always meet theseanimals, but the message has to
get to where it's going.
It might be that who I talk toor who I've come into contact
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with or connected with, theyknow somebody who knows somebody
who has a horse or a dog or acat or a person.
It's not always animals and Iwill get a message and something
to pass on and say, right, thisis what I've got.
They want you to do whateverthis is to connect to this
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person or does it mean anything?
And then if I get feedback, Itry and get more information for
them.
If they understand what it is,say, yeah, I've got this, that's
fine.
Then that's the end of themessage.
Feedback is really important andit's not for inflating
somebody's ego.
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It's so you know that you're onthe right track and sometimes
you just get enough informationto pass on.
So that person goes, yes, I cantake that.
So then you get the rest of themessage.
If they don't know what it is,then there's no point asking for
the rest of the message.
Unless I know that it's beeninsistent that this is right,
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please make sure this persongets this.
So I ask the animal to give meit in another way that the
person can accept.
Because remember, we all seethings differently.
We can see a movie, watchsomething going on in the
distance, and we will describeit slightly differently.
Depending on our experiences.
So you have to just give it asclear as you can.
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And hopefully the person willacknowledge and understand
what's being passed on.
This is a message from a lady.
My daughter always says helloand miss you to her pony who we
had to say goodbye to when we goby his resting place.
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Yes, yeah I do that.
I do that.
It's really my cat Pookie,beautiful cat yeah, beautiful
cat.
Amazing buried next to eachother.
in a field.
And it's not my field.
So when it's time to move on, Iknow they're going to be stayed
there.
You know, there'll be there.
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That's their place, but itdoesn't matter because that's
not where they are.
But quite often I look across tothe, the tree.
And imagination or not, I don'tcare, it doesn't matter to me
because it still makes me feeljoyous.
I can see Maisie running acrossthe field as she would.
She would fly around the field,three legs or not.
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And the cats just sat therewatching her as if to say, yeah,
I'm not doing that.
And it's just lovely.
It's just lovely.
But I know they're not there andI don't get sad.
anymore, but I do if I'mrecalling the events in the
story of what happened.
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For example, taking my dog tothe vets, you know, that's the
story.
And with that story, your mindrecalls that memory, which is
stored in your body and theemotions come forward, which is
not a bad thing because it'strapped emotions.
So it's not bad.
It's not wrong, and sometimesthese emotions just go And
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that's good because that'swhat's needed at that time I'm
just going back through thecomments.
Right let's have a look.
I'm just trying to think whatelse I was going to tell you
about.
Sometimes I'll get messagesfrom, I don't often say that on
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my lives, but I do get messages,collective messages.
Angie! Yes, of course! Oh myGod, yes, of course! Finn! I was
very lucky and very honoured andI'm very grateful.
To two lovely ladies thatinvited me to Kiso to do horse
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camp.
And I'd never done that before.
And it was like a 20 minutesessions, an example of how
communication how it works, forme.
And I remember my first time Iwent, I was thinking, Oh my God,
how's this going to work?
Cause I've not done it this waybefore, you know, is it going to
work anyway?
It did, it worked.
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And Angie was one of the firstfew ladies that I met with a
horse fin.
And it was lovely.
It was such a lovelycommunication.
And I loved doing the campsbecause whatever was relevant at
the time came through, and eventhough it was 20 minutes, it was
just enough for that person andthat horse to receive and pass
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on what they needed at thattime.
Which was great and it was greatexperience for me.
It was great experience becauseI thought if I can do that, then
I should stop hiding behindmyself and get out there, which
I did.
But yeah, so I'm, I'm forevergrateful for that.
And I always will be and I willnever forget that opportunity.
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Because it taught me a lot,taught me a lot.
Okay.
Hi Ronnie, lovely as always tolisten to what we need to hear.
When it's not our story, Tawes.
Oh, bless you.
Oh, Tawes is another one.
She was so kind to organize atalk at Chessfield.
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Was it Chessfield?
Yeah.
And that was another first forme.
So I went along to do anintroduction and we had some
horses and we did a littlepractice with some participants
and I really enjoyed that.
That was fun.
I'd like to do more of thatactually.
Yeah I love to do that.
I love to interact with peopleand show them that they all
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communicate.
Everybody can do this.
It's not something that'sspecial and unique to
individuals we all have theability.
I just taking that step furtherbecause there's been a drive
behind it.
And I'm more aware of why now,but at the time I wasn't sure.
And I had imposter syndrome fora long time.
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And it doesn't mean to say, Idon't have imposter syndrome,
but before you're going to see ahorse, before you're
communicating and afterwards,when you're in human mode,
that's when the little doubtingThomas, but during a
communication, that's whathappens and I'm there and I'm
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present.
And there's lots ofcommunicators and we all do our
best and we all work slightlydifferently.
So we all work differently forreasons.
Don't think it's from my part toanalyze why I have a more
understanding of the biggerpicture.
And this is why I communicatethe way I do.
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I understand why, but at thetime I was like I want to get it
like that person does.
Not that I was trying to mimicanybody else or copy, but when
you try to be somebody else,you're not being authentic to
yourself and you have to betruthful, authentic to your
flow.
Because that's what's comingthrough and you have to just
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trust and know that it's rightfor you, the person, and that
animal.
And it's not about giving everyanswer, because your journey
with your horse is your journey.
And it's for you to discover,you to experience, but sometimes
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we all need a little guidanceand a little help along the way.
And that's what it is.
It's not...
Telling you what to do.
It's not saying you should dothis.
Not that.
It's a bit of guidance.
And it's never, ever aboutmaking anybody feel small or
wrong.
Because if somebody's reachingout to an animal communicator,
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They are doing their best to seewhat's going on, to hear what's
going on, and just to try andget somewhere, but you don't
always get all your answers.
It doesn't matter whether youhave a vet, body worker,
communicator, you don't alwaysget all your answers because
life can change with the flip ofa coin.
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It's not fortune telling, it'sat that present moment, and your
mindset has a big influence.
So if, and we had a communicatorwith a horse, it would be.
What's going on at that time.
And for me, it's never justabout the animal and it's not
for a lot of communicators but Ican only talk about myself.
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Okay.
It may be that the human, theperson needs to hear something
so that they can move pastwhat's blocking them.
So the animal can get to thehuman and they can hear each
other and sometimes it's just toallow the human to let go of
something.
That's all it is.
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So it's not my job to question,it's my job to deliver the
message as it comes, to beempathetic, to be able to give a
hug, which I love doing, becauseI'm a tactile person.
And tears are always a goodthing, tears are always a good
thing, because it's releasing asI was starting to release things
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that were trapped in my bodywhen I was talking about Maisie,
the story with Maisie.
So the memory of Maisie does notmake me cry.
I don't get upset when I thinkabout her, but the story of some
of the things that happeneddoes.
And sometimes we can getattached to that, so that's a
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whole nother podcast I think.
We can get attached to a storythat's going on.
Doesn't mean to say it's notreal and we're not seeing it,
but it can become bigger than itactually is.
And what we do is we invest alot of energy in that and we add
to that pot.
But again, that's a whole notherpodcast.
And if anybody would like moreinformation about that little
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snippet let me know and I'll doanother one of these.
Anyway, I hope I'm not boringyou.
Okay.
Yes.
We all have the ability to speakto spirit, human, or otherwise.
Most though do not allow it dueto many different reasons, fear,
doubt, beliefs.
Systems.
Yeah, very true, Martha.
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Very true.
Very wise words.
Fear is a big thing, let's go toimagination.
I can approach a strangersometimes easier than somebody I
know.
Not so much now, and I'm nottalking about the communication
side, because I will approachanybody.
But me as a person...
I found it easy to talk to astranger, so that never ever
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bothered me, and it doesn't tothis day.
And sometimes I think, well,what if this is my imagination?
But the thing is, you won't knowuntil you pass on the message.
And nine out of ten times, itisn't your imagination.
And the thing is, Even if itwas, what does it matter?
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Now you're not going to pass onanything that would hurt
somebody or be conflicting ornot your place to say.
So if you as a friend of afriend and you felt you got this
nice feeling and you could say,do you know what, I'm sure your
horse is here.
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I just got this feeling and Ijust got this picture of what
they used to do.
And you might bring a smile toyour friend.
Because they're remembering him,and you're remembering them with
them, and they might cry.
Don't be embarrassed.
Just give them a hug.
Just give them a hug.
Because sometimes that's allthey need.
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Sometimes that's all we need.
It's just somebody to remembertheir loved ones too, and to
share in that.
Especially if you knew them.
But yeah, you won't know it'syour imagination until you pass
a message on.
So I'm talking about a friendfor a friend.
I'm not talking about what I do.
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Okay.
So this is Taryn.
Okay.
Taryn again, after the traumaticpassing of crystal, my horse, it
took a long time to connect toany.
Other horse again, and I wasgoing to give up riding
altogether.
I went to a yard with a friendwho was looking for a horse for
a daughter, and I was instantlydrawn to another horse and the
rest is history.
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Apache and I have been togetherfor two years now.
He has been very patient with melearning to love again.
He's definitely found me when Ileast expected it.
It definitely feels that.
Definitely feels that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Animals don't want us to nothave another.
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Love is endless.
You have got room to love asmany people, as many animals as
you want to.
They don't get hung up on, well,she loved that cat more than me.
Cats are a little bit different.
They have an opinion.
But on a soul level, that's nothow it is.
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Love is love.
And somebody else is alwayswaiting for that as well.
They, they want to receive that.
And often when somebody's lost apet, lost a horse, they won't be
looking because that's not whatthey're interested in.
They just want to get on withtheir life and, and.
And have memories of the, thelived one.
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And then as Taryn said, ananimal will appear or somebody
says, can you help me?
I've got a rescue.
Can you take this cat on?
Can you take this dog on?
And you'll think, okay, I'lltake them on.
I'll find them a home and lo andbehold.
Often the person keeps theanimal because they've grown
attached to them.
Sometimes animals come back tothe same people in different
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form.
And they may have a similartrait as your older pet.
They may do something and youthink, my dog used to do that.
Or my cat used to do that.
No, it's my imagination.
How do you know?
It may be that they've come backagain to be with you.
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Or because this happens.
The old animal.
The old soul has connected tothe new animal in your life and
presented something that theyused to do.
So the animal will show you thatit's another way of them,
letting you know that they arestill around either in another
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form or the connecting with theanimals that are there, that
does happen too, but it doesn'tmatter.
What matters is if you get thatnice warm feeling and a smile
and you think of them fondly,that's it.
What's more precious thanmemories?
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Beautiful.
So somebody just said, that wasmy next question.
Do they come back?
See, this is how the universeworks.
Again, I don't know who this is.
I've got so many people on here,which is absolutely wonderful.
And I have got no names apartfrom the ones that are showing.
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So I'm assuming this is comingthrough my group page which is
awesome.
That is so cool.
I'm going to read that again.
So somebody's just bought mynext question was, do they come
back?
And I'd literally just explainthat.
So yes, they do.
They can come back as anotherdog, another cat or another
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species.
Or through that animal.
So it might not be the soul thatyou remember, but they're making
themselves known to you throughthat animal.
So the next time that you thinkthat happens, whether you think
it's your imagination or not,acknowledge it.
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Just take a moment and say, isthat you?
Whether it is or not, I'msending you love and thank you
for coming to see me and see howthat feels because when they
know you're paying attention,they will come back more because
they get excited.
Now, I don't know if somebody'sabout to ask this question
because my guidance is justsaying to me, you've got to say
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this Okay.
Somebody might be thinking,well, how can they connect to
you?
If they've come back as anotheranimal to another family,
another person they can, theydon't have to be in one place.
Hence.
That's why I can talk tosomebody in New Zealand, Africa,
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Australia, different time zones.
There's no such thing as time.
They can have.
a new body and be with anotherfamily but they don't forget you
and they love you just as muchokay but they can still
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communicate with you even thoughthey're living another life.
I can't give you a simpleexample because I haven't got
one but trust me they can.
So if somebody was about to askthat Yeah okay, so the delay is
because I'm reading comments.
So we've got another one here.
Again I'm going to read it forthe benefit of the audio later.
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I have had three horses, poniesin my life, all came to me.
I had a strong bond with myfirst pony after an awful
accident.
My second pony came into my lifefor two years.
Blaze is my third pony who Ihave a strong bond with oh, and
you have met and read with me.
I really believe my first ponyis with Blaise and you have just
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said the same could happen.
I now feel I am not imaginingit.
I am sure I have my boystogether.
Hope that makes sense.
Yes, it does.
And excuse my reading now.
Okay, Sam Naylor?
Are you asking me to share thatstory?
Okay.
It's so bizarre talking to meand not having somebody else
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talking back to me.
It feels bizarre.
It's funny how you get used tocertain things.
Obviously I'm used to doinginterviews this way now and not
just chatting myself.
So it feels a bit different.
Okay, any more questions whileI'm waiting for Sam.
Okay, right so, this is fromsomebody on Facebook.
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Oh, it's Tauz, Tauz.
Right, I've just seen your name.
Hi Ronnie, can I share a storyregarding what you are talking
about?
A while back whilst at thefield, my daughter Abby was
running around for hours with alead rope, playing with Bella, a
friend's dog, laughing, rollingaround.
She was having so much fun.
Two days later, I bumped intothat friend who informed me that
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Bella had passed away that lastSunday.
We were both gobsmacked when weboth realised that Bella had
come to Abbey to obviously saygoodbye.
Oh, wow, Taz! That is beautiful.
Absolutely.
Wow.
Wow.
You've just reminded me a storyof a cat I used to have.
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A tortoiseshell cat.
Wow, tours that's beautiful yesand because you didn't know
yeah, that's beautiful.
I'll put that back up again in asecond for people to read cause
that's brilliant.
So before I moved down to Southof England, I used to live in
Lincolnshire and I had thisbeautiful tortoise tortoiseshell
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cat, I'm trying to think of hisname.
Isn't it bizarre?
Anyway.
He was so lovely and so quiet,but he liked to go off
exploring, but he would alwaysbe home, he'd come back every
day so he wasn't a cat thatexplored and would go off for
days, he would always be thereand he loved sitting in front of
the fire and the sunshine.
So whenever he used to put mywashing out in the garden, he
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would lie and and then he wouldcome up, meow and you had to
stroke him, whenever he came upto me, I always stroked him,
that was our greeting.
And I stroked all my cats, butthere was something about about
this cat.
I cannot remember his name.
How bizarre is that?
Anyway yeah, he would come upand I would stroke him.
Now this particular day I didn'tsee him the night before and I
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remember thinking, Felix.
Thank you, Felix.
Thank you, Felix.
He just popped in.
I remember thinking, I haven'tseen Felix.
Maybe he's okay.
So I was doing my washing.
I put my washing out in thegarden.
And it was a really sunny dayand there was this sunbeam on
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the ground about a couple offeet from where I was and I
looked down and there was Felix.
And I goes, Oh, Felix, there youare.
Now, normally I would go up andstroke him.
I always did this.
It was religious.
There was something about him.
I just went up and stroked him.
I had to touch him.
Now this day, I carried on putmy bushing out and said hi
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Felix, and I didn't stroke him.
Now I didn't think anythingabout it until I went in the
back door.
Put my basket down, and Ithought I didn't stroke him.
So I went back out, and he'dgone, and I thought oh yeah,
maybe he's in the house.
So I came back in and I wasshouting Felix.
And I couldn't find him.
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I thought, Oh, maybe he's justgone off exploring again.
Later on in that day, this ladyhappened to be coming past on a
push bike and she says, Oh, doyou, do you have a tortoise
shell cat?
And I said, yes, I do.
She said, Oh, I'm, I'm reallysorry.
I hope I'm wrong, but there's acat at the side of the road,
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about half a mile.
On the lane, she says it mightnot be your cat, but I know that
I've seen cat simmer in yourgarden, so I says, well, thank
you so much and I got on my bikeand I went down this lane and I
was like, see the story.
This is what I mean about thestory, the emotion I can feel
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like now.
And this is years ago, yearsago.
And, as I got close, I knew itwas Felix, but as I got closer,
I realized he'd been there for awhile, he'd been there, probably
overnight, and it was only a fewhours ago that I'd seen Felix in
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my garden, but I didn't strokehim.
I knew then that it was hisspirit that came back to say
bye, because I didn't strokehim, and I stroked him.
Every time I saw him, that wasour greeting, always, I'll just
touch him, even if I was busy,that day, I didn't, that was the
first time, I didn't stroke himbecause he wasn't there, I could
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not physically have touched him,but he was there visually, and I
remember relaying this story tosomebody, a few months later,
I'd moved down here, So I wasn'tin Lancashire and my cat at the
time was sat on the bed and as Iwas saying this story, my cat
hissed and sat up and I knewthat Felix was under the bed.
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His energy made himself knownbecause we were talking about
him.
So this is what I mean.
When you think about youranimals and you talk about them,
They come closer and they lovethat because they know you
haven't forgotten them and theycan be in another body, having
another life, they could be inspirit, whatever, but they can
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still hear that call.
They can feel that heartvibration from you.
And it never goes away.
Ever.
It never dies.
It's always there.
Always.
Yeah.
Lovely.
So thank you, Tors.
So I'm going to put that upagain for anybody that wants to
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read that.
So Tors is saying that Abby wasrunning around playing with a
dog in the field and it was afriend's dog laughing, rolling
around.
She was having so much fun.
Two days later, she bumped intoa friend who informed her that
Benno had passed away that lastSunday.
So she came to say goodbye andshe probably wanted Tawes to let
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her mum know.
So this is how anybody receivesmessages.
Tawes would pass that message onand say, I saw your dog or we
saw her, we saw her.
Now, the owner might not be ableto take that at that moment if
they're really grieving.
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But at some point it will givethem comfort, or they'll ask
about it.
On rare occasions, maybesomebody doesn't feel that way,
or doesn't want to feel thatway.
For whatever reasons, and wedon't judge people.
It's up to that individual toaccept it, allow it.
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It's up to them.
You can't force somebody to seeand feel the way that you do.
But hopefully when they'reready, they will get
confirmation in their own way.
And that applies to humans,animals, okay?
There is no difference.
Our humans, our family, ourfriends that are no longer here
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physically, want us to know thattoo.
And they will make their selfknown.
Very much so.
Very much so.
But if it's close, thensometimes it's too painful and
they don't do anything to upsetus or frighten us.
I don't want to do that.
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Okay, so we've been on an hournearly and I don't want to keep
chatting and, and taking up yourtime for the sake of it.
So if anybody has got anotherquestion.
Okay this is Sam.
I think Tom came back, but hissocks replaced it.
So Sam's my dear friend, SamNaylor, some of you will know
her.
And Sam has had lots of animals,yeah, lots of animals.
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Thomas was a feral cat.
Adopted Sam, Sam didn't adoptThomas he adopted Sam and yeah,
it was very feral and Samstarted to feed him outside and
make sure he was okay causeshe's a big softie when it comes
to animals.
Anyway, eventually he started tocome closer and came into the
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home.
And now he's part of theirfamily.
He's big part of the family.
In fact, he's a hierarchy.
But it was really interesting.
So I can't remember the whole ofthis story, but there was a
point when I was sat in thekitchen one day and I.
I think I said to Sam he's gotunfinished business.
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He was talking about his oldowner and something about
unfinished business and that'swhat came from Thomas as I was
sat next to him.
Now, I don't know how longafterwards this happened, but
Sam had to take Thomas to thevets.
And it turned out that he'd gota microchip.
And the vets said, Oh, he'schipped.
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And of course, when you've takenon an animal and you've come to
love them and they've adoptedyou as their human, as their
person, it's like, well, what ifthat person wants that animal
back?
It's a bit, oh my goodness, wethought he was just a feral cat.
Anyway.
The vet found out who the ownerwas and said, do you want me to
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contact them?
And obviously Sam said yes.
But she was concerned that theowner would want to take the cat
back because they've grown tolove him as part of the family.
And this is maybe not quiteright, but it suggested the
story.
So I do apologize, Sam, if it'snot quite right.
What happened was they got intouch with the owner who
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actually contacted Sam, I think.
And said I think he was fairlyoh he he didn't maybe like the
man of the house I can'tremember.
There was something though.
She was more than happybasically for Sam to keep Thomas
and said, he's obviously foundhis home with you and that's
fine.
You know, I'm glad he's aliveand I'm glad he's well.
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That was the unfinishedbusiness.
But Sam didn't know that.
I didn't know what that was.
I just got, the cat said thisunfinished business.
And he didn't give me the fullpicture, that's all he said, but
circumstances led to Sam goingto the vets.
him being scanned and findingout that she got previous home.
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And then that was the unfinishedbusiness because although maybe
he didn't get on with the familyas well as he did with Sam he
still wanted them to know thathe was okay.
Because That lady wondered if hewas alive, wondered if he was
alive.
So, even if an animal might notbe your best buddy, deep down
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they will want you to know thatthey're okay.
If they go missing or if they'vefound another home, they
wouldn't want you to suffer andthink that, where is that
animal, are they trapped, arethey lost, they wouldn't want
that, so, if they're able to.
They will want the other personto know I'm safe.
I'm found, but I'm here now, orI'm safe.
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Can you come and get me?
It's up to them, but they wouldwant the other person to know.
And this is why when an animalcomes back in another life,
another form, they will stillwant their old family to know
that they're okay.
And they love them just as much.
There isn't a case of, I loveyou more.
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There is enough love.
I can promise you, but us humanslike to think I love them so
much.
What if they love somebody else?
They love you too, just as much.
I promise you.
They love you just as much, justas much.
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Martha is saying anything for mypets.
Okay.
Martha, give me a name of a pet.
Can't guarantee, but just giveme one of your pets and I'll see
what comes through.
Oh, I'm just being prompted toshare one more story too.
Okay.
Roxy.
Okay.
I'm going to do that in asecond, Martha, but I just don't
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want to forget this.
So just bear with me and then Ithink we're going to call it,
call it a night because I'mgetting a bit hoarse excuse the
pun.
Right.
So on a horse visit, on ananimal visit.
Okay sometimes people will getme out.
When it's coming to end of timefor their, their lovely horse,
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their animal.
Okay.
And sometimes they just wantconfirmation that they're doing
the right thing.
Or they want to know what thehorse thinks, what the animal
thinks.
And I can honestly say, hand onheart, all animals would like to
go if they have a choice withdignity.
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There is no right or wronganswer because it might have
external circumstances that youhave to say goodbye to an animal
and they never say, please don'tdo that to me.
Sometimes they have a, a strongdesire to live because they've
got things to do and they're notpast it despite what others
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might think, and it might bethat they have another role not
the role that the person thinksthey should have or have had.
But again, it is individual tothat animal and that person.
There is no same story, samescenario.
That's what I'm trying to say.
So they choose if they can to gowith dignity.
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So there is no right or wrong,or when is the best time.
No, when it's coming up to it,and sometimes there might be
something that comes along andsays, Well I can give this
animal more time all you have todo is ask the animal in your
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heart.
Are you ready?
And it's not easy, I know, butjust ask, Are you ready?
And feel what comes.
But again, there's no right orwrong answer.
But we do.
often have to take that finalresponsibility and say, okay,
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today's the day.
And it isn't easy.
It isn't easy, but they almostgo, okay, and you can breathe
because you know, so yes, itisn't easy, but it's something
sometimes we have to do.
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And they have never, ever, evercome back to me and say, well, I
wasn't ready to go because theyknow that that person did their
very best at that moment in timeand that's all you can do.
And that's all they ask for.
And even animals that may have.
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More to show if that person isnot able for whatever reason,
financially, physically,emotionally able to offer that,
and they know they can'tphysically do that, but they
don't want to send the horse offsomewhere else and goodness
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knows where it will end up.
They want to do the best thingthat they think is possible.
They understand that.
I've been to see a horse Iwasn't sure why I was there
because everything the horse wasgiving me, I was giving to the
owner and I was thinking, I'mnot understanding where this is
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going.
And then the horse almost said,but it doesn't matter what she
chooses.
And I understood in those fewwords what the horse meant
because the horse knew that theperson could not physically look
after them in the way that theywanted to.
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With the vet bills andeverything else.
They couldn't do that.
They couldn't do that.
And they'd already come to thatdecision and a vet would never
put a healthy animal down.
So I'm not talking about.
that scenario.
Usually the vets have alreadysaid what they can do and what
the alternatives are and we canpreserve life but it's not
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always possible either on theanimal's point of view or the
human's point of view.
But I have never had an animalCome back and say they made the
wrong choice because they knowon a level that that soul has
done their very, very best.
So do not have any guilt.
Do not have regrets.
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I know you will.
Don't hold on to them.
Let them go.
Let that emotion come throughyou.
Let that grief come through you.
And when you think of them andsmile and have tears, know that
you're connected to them.
No, they're with you.
Sorry, that came through andthey wanted me to share this
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with you.
Right, okay.
Martha, Roxy.
Is that your cat?
The reason I'm saying that isbecause I've got a cat and I've
got a dog and they're sat.
But they're not sat closetogether okay, so somebody's
cat's here too.
Okay so you'll have to tell meif I'm on the right track
because I've got a cat and I'vegot a dog.
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Okay.
Cause the dog and they're notsat together and it might not be
that they were there at the sametime because the dog is saying,
looking at the cat as if to saythe cat had the upper hand at
times.
The cat had the upper hand.
Now, let's see what Roxy has tosay.
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So the dog I'm seeing ispresenting me with a paw and
looking at the paw, the leftpaw, so just lifting the paw up,
okay and a colour.
It's a two tone color.
I could be on the wrong track,but it doesn't matter.
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So this is what I'm sayingabout, you could be right, you
could be wrong, but you don'tknow until you get feedback.
Okay.
Because quite often you get morethan one animal coming through.
So Martha, the dog I'm getting,showing me the left paw sat.
Two tone, thank you.
So I'm going to put that up sopeople can see.
So you've seen this in realtime.
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This is how it works.
I get a picture, a visual and Ihave to say it.
And you have to be not afraid tobe wrong, okay?
You have not got to worry that,oh, it might be wrong, because
what will people think, but youhave to say it until you get
feedback.
You don't know.
Okay, so, yes, two tone.
Roxy, sorry, I'm just, I'm justlistening.
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I will say, cause I'm secondthinking what's coming through.
Sometimes an animal will comethrough feeling masculine,
horses especially.
They can appear masculine, butthey might be a mare, they might
have a masculine personality andthey can feel masculine, but it
could be a male and vice versa.
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So as I'm communicating, I haveto be clear.
But what I'm getting, becauseI'm getting a bit confused
because I'm getting two, I'mgetting female, male, now it
might be the cat and the dog.
So I'm just going back to Roxy.
So Martha, does this make senserather than trying to describe
the animal?
What's coming through with Roxyis sometimes I would want to be
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braver than I was, but youhelped.
I want to say she, but again,I'm not a hundred percent on
this.
Okay.
So is Roxy a female?
It's, it's Roxy female.
I'll carry on with what's comingthrough.
Sometimes I would want to feelbraver than I actually was.
So they give me a bit of theirpersonality.
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Yeah, she was a she.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
So again, people, you've seenthis in real time, this is how
it works.
But when you've got somebodyface to face, it's a little bit
quicker.
Okay obviously I'm waiting forthe messages to come through.
Right, okay.
So, she feels...
That at times she wished shestepped forward and stuck up for
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herself a bit more.
But she's saying you helped her,you helped her.
There's a tenderness with thisbecause she felt timid because
she's saying, I tried to bebrave.
I wanted to be braver than Iwas.
So what's happening is theanimal has given me part of
their personality so that Marthacan recognize this as her dog.
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And the paw that she showed mewas the two toned paw.
Okay, so Martha's saying yes,that's her personality.
So for the benefit of the audio,because I hope this is going to
make sense Martha has asked meto connect to her dog Roxy.
I didn't know what sex it wasbecause I'd got a cat there too.
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But she felt feminine and Marthahas acknowledged that the dog is
indeed she.
And she also showed me her paw,two toned, and Martha has
confirmed that the dog is twotoned on that poor and that is
to a little bit timid.
Thanks, Martha.
You're doing well here.
Bless you.
Love you lots.
Thank you.
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Yeah.
So Martha's just confirming thatthe cat is male and the dog is
female.
So I've got two animals here.
Actually, the cat's just sittingback.
Ah, thank you.
Okay.
So the cat came through becausethe dog was timid when the dog
was in dog form.
Not like that now, obviously,but.
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When she was a dog, she wastimid and the cat saying, I'll
bring the dog forward.
Sometimes other animals willspeak on behalf of another
animal.
And you're thinking really, butyeah, sometimes that happens.
Don't ask me why.
Maybe they're too busy beinganother animal, but that's what
happens.
Yeah let me just see if shewants to say anything before we
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go because I'm definitelygetting tired now.
So what she's saying Martha isshe's definitely not the same
anymore because what happens isshe showed me is this demeanor
was soft and a little hesitantand then all of a sudden her
energy has grown and she'sbeautiful and sometimes she's
around your other animals.
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Because of her experience ofbeing a dog with you, she can
help the other animals.
She gives them a bit of strengththat she now has in soul form.
This may be going way over forsome people or maybe not.
Who knows?
So she wants you to know thatshe's still around but she's not
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the same.
Her energy has grown and she'smore confident in her energy and
she helps you with your otheranimals which is lovely.
Right guys, I think it's time.
I am dying for a cup of tea.
I hope you've enjoyed thislittle interaction.
It feels funny not chatting tosomebody and just having me.
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It feels like I'm talking tosomebody and there's nobody in
the room, but obviously there isbecause they're all talking to
me this way.
If you have any questions, I'mnot talking personal, but
general questions.
If you've got a personalquestion and get in touch with
me through email, but if you'vegot a general question then just
send me a message.
I am happy to give up my time Ialways pass on messages.
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I do this because that is what Ipromised, this is part of my
work and I do it.
And I love to hear back frompeople when it's helped them for
whatever reason it's thislovely, it's nice, it's like
getting a hug back cause again Idon't know until I get feedback.
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I don't need to know thedetails.
I, I don't need to knowanything.
All I need to know that is themessage has landed and been
received because I am acommunicator.
In more ways than one and I'm achannel for messages to come
through And to get to where theyneed to go to and that's part of
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my work.
Thank you so so much for joiningme today and I hope I made sense
and I hope that It's brought asmile and a glow and a bit of
confidence to anybody thatthinks I did feel my dog.
I did feel my cat or theirhorses and your horses and
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animals that you have now don'tfeel left out because you still
love another one.
They know that you're notcomparing them.
So just be happy when you feelthem and acknowledge it,
acknowledge it to yourself.
Even if you think it'simagination, I hear that, I feel
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that, I see that.
Imagination or not, thank you.
Because the more you do that,you're saying to yourself, okay,
I'm ready to receive.
And I promise you, you'll getsigns, you'll get messages,
you'll get a hug inside yourheart, from the inside out.
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And if you want one of me, thereyou go.
Free hugs all around.
So take care, thanks Jane.
Another amazing lady, Jane.
Animal healer, human healer,because it's all the same, it's
not one or the other, it's thesame.
We're all made of the samemolecules, energy.
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On that note, love you lots.
Thank you so much for being apart of this.
And I'm here if anybody needsme, if I can answer, I will do.
If it's a one to one, then do itpersonally please.
But general questions if I cananswer you, I will will do.
Right, I'm off for a cup of tea.
Take care and bye for now.
Welcome.
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My name is Ronnie from EquineVoices I'm excited to do a chat
tonight about animals andafterlife.
The idea of this came aroundbecause I was listening to a
podcast the other day and it wasa lady called Karen Anderson,
and she was on the Next LevelSoul.
And I've shared it on this page.
(00:21):
So hopefully if you'reinterested, you can click on it,
so it's Alex Ferrari, Next LevelSoul, and it has some amazing,
amazing podcasts.
And It was really interestingfor me because there was a lot
of similarities.
I'm just trying to slow mytalking down now because I've
been rushing.
It feels really weird talking tomyself and not having somebody
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to chat with, which is a bitbizarre.
So we've got a few peoplejoining, hi Celia, hi Martha.
I think that's Martha.
So what I'm going to do is justhave a little chat and wait for
people to join, hopefully, andmaybe get some questions that
you can ask me about animalcommunication.
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Because it's not just aboutchatting with animals that are
still in the physical body.
Sometimes you get communicationfrom animals that have passed
over, hence the title.
And it is no different, apartfrom not seeing the physical,
than chatting with an animalthat is still on the earth plane
and for me personally, we'redifferent for everybody.
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And there are communicators outthere that specialize in
connecting with animals thathave passed over.
We don't like to say deadbecause they're not dead it's
just the physical isn't hereanymore.
But for me, what happens is theynormally connect with me and it
may be that a client that I'vebeen to see had an animal that's
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passed over and they link insomehow.
So I don't always initiate it,but sometimes I will connect.
So if I see a friend's horse orsometimes on Facebook, I see a
horse that is passed over andsometimes I'll get a link in and
I can pass any messages on topeople I may know or, or through
a third party.
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But it's fascinating.
It's really fascinating.
So if you're really interested,I have got a few books that I
think I've shared before andI'll try and find out the titles
again.
Because they make things a biteasy and a bit clearer, and it
varies depending on thecommunicator, but the basis of
it is, is generally the same.
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Once again, if anybody wants toask any questions, please feel
free and then I can answer them.
So what I'll do is I'll share astory because when I was
thinking about what I was goingto talk about.
I was in my car and straightaway this horse popped in and
he's a, he's a beautiful, abeautiful funny boy and he's
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been around me for quite awhile.
He's not my horse, he's somebodyI know and I did see him when he
was alive and he pops in.
But as soon as I was thinkingabout this, it was like tell him
my story, tell him my story.
So I'm not going to say who itis, I have talked about him
before and the person knows, butI'm not going to mention his
name, but it was it was a storyto share and he wanted me to
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share it.
I was basically driving home oneday and I got this feeling of
this horse and the person.
So that's how it comes for me.
I'll be driving, whatever I'mdoing.
The person will pop in or theanimal pops in.
So this is a horse that's passedover and It's a feel to start
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with and maybe a couple of wordsand what I do is I pay
attention.
Now, if I'm really busy, such asdriving, I acknowledge it and
carry on doing what I'm doingand then they'll pop in again.
So I'll go, okay, that's thesecond time.
And then the third time is mysign, which was very similar to
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Karen Anderson, the othercommunicator that I talked about
earlier.
She said, when I get it threetimes, I know I have to pass it
on.
So the third time this messagecame through, I thought, okay,
okay I hear you.
And I pulled over and.
I just typed in what I wasgetting into my phone and passed
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the message on to this personand straight away I got a text
back saying that's so funnybecause what you've just said
and you described is What heused to do to me.
So he used to pull at a t shirt,he pulled at a t shirt and she
happened to have that t shirt onthat day with holes in it where
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he'd been pulling at it.
So that was confirmation for herthat I was connecting to her
horse.
But it was really funny becauseit's just how he came in and he
just wanted her to know thathe's still around.
So I sent the rest of themessage and then I carried on my
journey.
But it's just interesting howthey come, again, that's not one
that I was connecting tointentionally.
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He popped into my awareness.
So I passed that message on.
Oh, we've got a few more people.
Hello from South Africa.
Oh, how exciting.
Has anybody got any questions?
Yeah I know Martha's here.
Lovely Martha and Celia.
I know you two guys are here.
Tyrone from South Africa hello?
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And Jane hi Jane.
Hi Joe.
Oh, bless you, Joe.
Okay, I'm just gonna put thislittle comment up'cause this is
Joe.
So Joe says, hi, Ronnie.
I'm going to read this out forthe benefit of the audio
afterwards.
Hi, Ronnie.
We'll never forget when youcontacted me when Bonnie made
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you stop your car, be forevergrateful, Joe.
Oh, you're more than welcome.
It's so funny.
So what happens is I don't knowthe information that comes
through is relevant until I getsome feedback.
So I get a feel, okay and I geta name of the horse or the
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person.
And sometimes it's just a feelof something and until I type or
record, cause that's what I donow.
I quite often record and thensend the voicemail until I start
to say.
What is the first few words, therest of the information then
follows.
And it's only enough so that theperson understands the message
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and knows that it's their horsethat I'm connecting to.
So I don't have to have thewhole picture.
And it might be that they justwant them to know that they're
there cause they can feel maybethey've been sad, or maybe
they've been thinking about thembecause, when people pass over,
their energy, their spirit isstill around, so it's exactly
the same, they want their lovedones and their companions and
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their friends to know thatthey're okay and not to be sad.
Now that doesn't mean to saythat we don't miss them.
We don't miss the physical.
We don't miss that.
that smell of their fur, theirhair, the feel of them the
little things they do.
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We miss that, we miss thetactile companion because that's
what we are familiar with.
And that's what we, that's whatwe know.
So it doesn't mean to say thatyou don't mourn an animal when
they pass, but they don't wantyou to feel that they're not
there.
Okay.
They do not want you to feelthat they have gone and they
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can't come close to you becausethey do, but quite often if
you're, if you're too distraughtor it's too painful, they will
be close to you, but you may notfeel them at that point, but
they will make themselves knownaware to you in some way.
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I'm trying to think of anexample.
So the message that I gave to aclient of mine, the fact that he
kept tugging at her t shirt,making holes in it, and she had
the same t shirt on that day, assoon as I passed that message
on, that was confirmation toher.
Which was lovely, which wasreally, really lovely.
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It's so nice.
We've got lots of people.
Thank you so much for joining.
Thank you.
I sometimes see my cat.
Yeah.
Sometimes you might see what youthink is at the corner of your
eye.
Like a foggy feeling, or you maybe doing your housework or
you're, you're sat theredaydreaming and you feel that
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there's something there.
And you look and then you think,no, it's my imagination.
What if it wasn't yourimagination?
Okay, what if it wasn't?
What if it was somebody there?
Either a relative or an animalsaying, I'm here.
And they do come round us moreand they try to be heard or seen
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when you're sad.
So if you're really sad oryou're going through a hard
time, they want you to know thatit's okay.
They're here.
Please don't worry, they'rehere.
They don't want you to feelguilty.
There's no need to have guilt.
You do your best with youranimals and you look after them.
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And as long as they have theneeds met, they have shelter,
they have food, they havewarmth, and they have love.
You don't have to be perfect.
They don't expect that.
They are so forgiving.
And it's so unconditional.
They love you unconditionally.
And that's why it hurts when welose them.
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When they pass, it hurts becausethey depend on us to do all of
these things, to feed them, tolook after them, to take them
for walks, to be with them.
And as they get older, they getfrustrated too, but again, they
don't, they don't expect you tobe perfect.
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We've got some more comments.
I'll read them shortly.
Thank you so much.
And when it's their time to go.
They know how hard it is, theyknow how difficult it is to let
them go.
And there is no right and wronganswer.
Okay?
Because when it's your animal,you do your best for them, and
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you hope they stay, and youthink, Is it?
Time now or shall I wait so youhave this struggle you have this
conversation with yourself, butthat's normal That's what we do.
So if I give you an example ofmy own little Maisie she was a
three legged whip it so she hadone leg in missing at the front.
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So but it didn't stop herenjoying her life and Yeah I can
feel that motion now and I knowshe's still around And because
she had three legs, as she gotolder, her little frail body,
because she's a whippet, if youcan imagine, it's like a little
chicken drumstick at the front,very thin bones, and her little
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back was getting more arched andbent as she got older, but she
still got around.
Arthritis was setting in.
And as you do, you ask yourselfthe question, you know, I said
to Maisie, let me know when it'stime to go.
Maisie.
Please tell me, or if not me,tell somebody I know so that I
get, I get the answer.
And, and then you sort of putit, to the back of your head.
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And I asked this quite early on,and then that was it.
That was fine.
And she felt like she stillwanted to be around.
And then one day, she'd beenstruggling and going for walks.
She'd had a few accidents youknow, sort of having a wee
before I'd got home and she waslike, Oh, I'm so sorry I'm so
sorry.
And it's like, it doesn'tmatter.
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It doesn't matter.
It's not your fault.
And they came in one day, busy,busy bee, come in and took her
for a walk, got my tea, come inand she was lied there.
And I just put my hand on her.
And I said, it's getting time,isn't it, Maisie?
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And I just knew that it wascoming up to her time.
I can't really say exactly whathappened.
It was just a knowing I justknew.
However, I still neededconfirmation that I was picking
up right for my own animal youknow, Maisie.
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So I asked a friend, who I dosometimes, just for
confirmation.
I don't tell her any details.
I just say, can you tune in?
And then she gives me what shefeels, which goes with what I'm
feeling.
And she confirmed that, yes it'sgetting close not quite yet,
but...
It's getting close.
So of course, being a human, Isaid, how long have I got, I'll
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be talking weeks, months, and itwas, I think it was a couple of
months.
It was coming up to Christmas.
So I thought, okay, I thought,right, I'm going to give her a
good Christmas.
And And that's what we did.
And as I'm talking about this,my legs are shaking under the
table.
So our emotions are stored inour body and we don't forget it.
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And it does hurt because they'reour loved ones and I can feel
tears coming up so if I startcrying, I'm not going to make
any apologies because this is,this is life.
So it doesn't stop that feel.
It doesn't stop that, that feelbecause we loved them so much.
We still love them.
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We loved them.
We put our heart and soul and AsI said, they are unconditional,
so it doesn't take away from thepain, but for me, it doesn't
last because I know she'saround, so that's old emotions
that are trapped in my body,because it's remembering that,
okay, it's remembering that feelof loss, and it doesn't just, It
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means the loss of an animal, itwill be a loss to whatever loss
you've had, it will attachitself to that.
So sometimes the emotions can beso extreme, so extreme because
you're mourning the loss of yourloved pet, but it might be that
you've lost a person too, andyou're not consciously thinking
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about it, but it will be therein your body.
Okay.
I don't know why I'm talkingthis way, but maybe somebody's
listening to this and it mightbe a help because this is just
what's flowing through now.
And it was a time I wasdetermined to be there.
I wanted to be there.
So I made the decision what dayit was going to be.
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So I made a choice and I was allprepared to go on my own.
And then my dear friend, Samsays, would you like me to come
with you?
And I said, Yes, please.
So she did.
And she came with me.
So we took her to the vets andthe vets were lovely.
And I took her in and they said,Oh, what can we do?
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Because I've taken it before.
And I said, It's a time.
And they said, Oh, we can dotests and we can do this and we
can prolong her life.
And I went, No, it's a, it's atime to go.
It's a time to leave she wantsto go home.
So she did.
She went home and it was verypeaceful.
It was very beautiful.
And then I came home and buriedher.
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In the field where my horse isAnd Sam and the girls, her
children came out.
And helped me dig a hole becauseit was bloody hard work.
Cause it was, it was clay soil.
And we put Maisie in there andit was, it was beautiful, but
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she's still around and she'soften in the car with me.
And it's so funny because shealways used to be in my car.
I'll often be driving and, andfeel her and I go, hi Maisie.
So I can think about her andit's not heart wrenching but
when I think about the story.
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I'm going through the story andI'm explaining it to you.
The emotions are attached to thestory, okay?
Not to Maisie, because she'sstill here.
They're attached to the story ofwhat happened.
So I'm saying that again becauseI think maybe somebody needs to
hear that.
So it doesn't not take away fromthe sadness or the loss of that
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physical smell, the feel, thelittle nicker of the horse or
the dog barking or the cat,whatever the animal is, does not
take away from that.
So don't feel guilty.
Allow that to come through youbecause that's mourning and
that's what you need, but theyare not gone.
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I promise you a hundred percent.
They are not gone.
They are still here.
Okay.
Right.
I'm gonna see who else iscommented.
Hi Pam.
Nice to see you too.
Nice to see you too.
So I don't know who this is, butI'm going to put it up and
again, I'm going to read it forthe benefit of the audio,
because this is going to be madeinto a podcast.
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After my horse Crystal passed, Ikept seeing a giant moth in the
strangest places.
And after my darling old girl,my solid dog passed away, there
was a white feather in a foodbowl are there real signs?
They would send or just what wewanted to see?
No, no, absolutely.
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So you know the thing about ifyou see a red car or say you are
thinking of buying a new car andyou like a red Ferrari.
Okay, at my price range, but heyho a red Ferrari.
Then you'd be driving along, youthink, oh my god, I've just seen
a red Ferrari.
Maybe not a Ferrari.
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Let's say Fiesta, a red Fiesta,and then you go around the
corner There's another redFiesta, and then there's another
red Fiesta.
It's not that you're looking atthem But your awareness is more
open to seeing them.
Signs are no different.
A sign for you May be differentto somebody else.
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If you saw a feather, and youfelt in your heart that was a
sign, it's because it is a sign.
Somebody else might see that andit might mean nothing to them.
If a sign for you was a buzzardflying over, and you heard a
buzzard and you looked up, thatis your sign.
It's whatever it is to you.
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That is your sign and if youfeel that in your heart, that's
what it is.
Sometimes you can feel likebutterflies or cobwebs.
That is another sign orsomething push past your legs.
Cats are brilliant at that.
You might feel something or youmaybe you're watching the TV and
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you go to eat your leg becauseyou think something's just.
Stroked it, that could be yourdog, your cat.
Horses connect anywhere becauseobviously they don't live in our
living rooms.
You could be driving along, youcan be thinking about your
animal and then you get thisfeel and you might say, Oh, I've
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only got that because I wasthinking about them.
Why did you think about them inthe first place?
They show themselves by cominginto your thoughts.
And you might think, why am Ithinking of them?
It's because they're sayinghello, connect to me.
A little example, when I'mcommunicating, when I get
messages okay?
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I will get messages all thetime.
And Sometimes I will get themessage as I'm passing a certain
point on my journey.
Now you could think, okay, Ipassed that point last time I
got a message.
So I think that's just making methink I'm going to get another
message.
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And that's happened.
And I'm ignoring that because Ithink it's because I've passed
that point where I got my lastmessage and I'd carry on driving
and then they come back again, Ithink, no.
It's just because I passed.
It might be near where they liveor a journey to them or just
where you've had the messagebefore at this certain point.
And then the third time, that'smy sign.
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So I acknowledge it.
I text or voice message themessage, pass it on.
And then when I get a replysaying it makes sense.
I think, okay.
So don't ignore it, even if youthink it's your imagination,
because you won't know until youacknowledge it.
If you acknowledge it and youget a nice feel, then that's it.
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It's not always massive, bigthings.
It's not like a billboardsaying, hello, I am here can you
see me?
It can be really subtle andvery, very soft.
It can be when you're driftingoff to sleep, it can make you
smile that you think about themand you have a smile and maybe a
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little tear that's them sayinghi, because if you feel them in
your heart, that's where theyare.
They are still with you.
You are part of them as they arepart of you, your energy.
Is the same.
Okay, it's the same and it'svery beautiful and it's very
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personal to each person.
So, if you have any questions,we've had one, which I hope I've
answered.
Did I answer that question, bythe way?
I don't know who you are, so Ido apologize, but I hope I've
answered your question.
Okay, I connected with Ashley,my husband's horse, which I
never met Martha.
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Yes! Yeah.
Recently I've been gettingmessages for people, for horses
I've not met.
So I don't always meet theseanimals, but the message has to
get to where it's going.
It might be that who I talk toor who I've come into contact
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with or connected with, theyknow somebody who knows somebody
who has a horse or a dog or acat or a person.
It's not always animals and Iwill get a message and something
to pass on and say, right, thisis what I've got.
They want you to do whateverthis is to connect to this
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person or does it mean anything?
And then if I get feedback, Itry and get more information for
them.
If they understand what it is,say, yeah, I've got this, that's
fine.
Then that's the end of themessage.
Feedback is really important andit's not for inflating
somebody's ego.
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It's so you know that you're onthe right track and sometimes
you just get enough informationto pass on.
So that person goes, yes, I cantake that.
So then you get the rest of themessage.
If they don't know what it is,then there's no point asking for
the rest of the message.
Unless I know that it's beeninsistent that this is right,
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please make sure this persongets this.
So I ask the animal to give meit in another way that the
person can accept.
Because remember, we all seethings differently.
We can see a movie, watchsomething going on in the
distance, and we will describeit slightly differently.
Depending on our experiences.
So you have to just give it asclear as you can.
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And hopefully the person willacknowledge and understand
what's being passed on.
This is a message from a lady.
My daughter always says helloand miss you to her pony who we
had to say goodbye to when we goby his resting place.
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Yes, yeah I do that.
I do that.
It's really my cat Pookie,beautiful cat yeah, beautiful
cat.
Amazing buried next to eachother.
in a field.
And it's not my field.
So when it's time to move on, Iknow they're going to be stayed
there.
You know, there'll be there.
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That's their place, but itdoesn't matter because that's
not where they are.
But quite often I look across tothe, the tree.
And imagination or not, I don'tcare, it doesn't matter to me
because it still makes me feeljoyous.
I can see Maisie running acrossthe field as she would.
She would fly around the field,three legs or not.
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And the cats just sat therewatching her as if to say, yeah,
I'm not doing that.
And it's just lovely.
It's just lovely.
But I know they're not there andI don't get sad.
anymore, but I do if I'mrecalling the events in the
story of what happened.
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For example, taking my dog tothe vets, you know, that's the
story.
And with that story, your mindrecalls that memory, which is
stored in your body and theemotions come forward, which is
not a bad thing because it'strapped emotions.
So it's not bad.
It's not wrong, and sometimesthese emotions just go And
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that's good because that'swhat's needed at that time I'm
just going back through thecomments.
Right let's have a look.
I'm just trying to think whatelse I was going to tell you
about.
Sometimes I'll get messagesfrom, I don't often say that on
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my lives, but I do get messages,collective messages.
Angie! Yes, of course! Oh myGod, yes, of course! Finn! I was
very lucky and very honoured andI'm very grateful.
To two lovely ladies thatinvited me to Kiso to do horse
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camp.
And I'd never done that before.
And it was like a 20 minutesessions, an example of how
communication how it works, forme.
And I remember my first time Iwent, I was thinking, Oh my God,
how's this going to work?
Cause I've not done it this waybefore, you know, is it going to
work anyway?
It did, it worked.
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And Angie was one of the firstfew ladies that I met with a
horse fin.
And it was lovely.
It was such a lovelycommunication.
And I loved doing the campsbecause whatever was relevant at
the time came through, and eventhough it was 20 minutes, it was
just enough for that person andthat horse to receive and pass
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on what they needed at thattime.
Which was great and it was greatexperience for me.
It was great experience becauseI thought if I can do that, then
I should stop hiding behindmyself and get out there, which
I did.
But yeah, so I'm, I'm forevergrateful for that.
And I always will be and I willnever forget that opportunity.
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Because it taught me a lot,taught me a lot.
Okay.
Hi Ronnie, lovely as always tolisten to what we need to hear.
When it's not our story, Tawes.
Oh, bless you.
Oh, Tawes is another one.
She was so kind to organize atalk at Chessfield.
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Was it Chessfield?
Yeah.
And that was another first forme.
So I went along to do anintroduction and we had some
horses and we did a littlepractice with some participants
and I really enjoyed that.
That was fun.
I'd like to do more of thatactually.
Yeah I love to do that.
I love to interact with peopleand show them that they all
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communicate.
Everybody can do this.
It's not something that'sspecial and unique to
individuals we all have theability.
I just taking that step furtherbecause there's been a drive
behind it.
And I'm more aware of why now,but at the time I wasn't sure.
And I had imposter syndrome fora long time.
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And it doesn't mean to say, Idon't have imposter syndrome,
but before you're going to see ahorse, before you're
communicating and afterwards,when you're in human mode,
that's when the little doubtingThomas, but during a
communication, that's whathappens and I'm there and I'm
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present.
And there's lots ofcommunicators and we all do our
best and we all work slightlydifferently.
So we all work differently forreasons.
Don't think it's from my part toanalyze why I have a more
understanding of the biggerpicture.
And this is why I communicatethe way I do.
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I understand why, but at thetime I was like I want to get it
like that person does.
Not that I was trying to mimicanybody else or copy, but when
you try to be somebody else,you're not being authentic to
yourself and you have to betruthful, authentic to your
flow.
Because that's what's comingthrough and you have to just
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trust and know that it's rightfor you, the person, and that
animal.
And it's not about giving everyanswer, because your journey
with your horse is your journey.
And it's for you to discover,you to experience, but sometimes
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we all need a little guidanceand a little help along the way.
And that's what it is.
It's not...
Telling you what to do.
It's not saying you should dothis.
Not that.
It's a bit of guidance.
And it's never, ever aboutmaking anybody feel small or
wrong.
Because if somebody's reachingout to an animal communicator,
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They are doing their best to seewhat's going on, to hear what's
going on, and just to try andget somewhere, but you don't
always get all your answers.
It doesn't matter whether youhave a vet, body worker,
communicator, you don't alwaysget all your answers because
life can change with the flip ofa coin.
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It's not fortune telling, it'sat that present moment, and your
mindset has a big influence.
So if, and we had a communicatorwith a horse, it would be.
What's going on at that time.
And for me, it's never justabout the animal and it's not
for a lot of communicators but Ican only talk about myself.
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Okay.
It may be that the human, theperson needs to hear something
so that they can move pastwhat's blocking them.
So the animal can get to thehuman and they can hear each
other and sometimes it's just toallow the human to let go of
something.
That's all it is.
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So it's not my job to question,it's my job to deliver the
message as it comes, to beempathetic, to be able to give a
hug, which I love doing, becauseI'm a tactile person.
And tears are always a goodthing, tears are always a good
thing, because it's releasing asI was starting to release things
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that were trapped in my bodywhen I was talking about Maisie,
the story with Maisie.
So the memory of Maisie does notmake me cry.
I don't get upset when I thinkabout her, but the story of some
of the things that happeneddoes.
And sometimes we can getattached to that, so that's a
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whole nother podcast I think.
We can get attached to a storythat's going on.
Doesn't mean to say it's notreal and we're not seeing it,
but it can become bigger than itactually is.
And what we do is we invest alot of energy in that and we add
to that pot.
But again, that's a whole notherpodcast.
And if anybody would like moreinformation about that little
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snippet let me know and I'll doanother one of these.
Anyway, I hope I'm not boringyou.
Okay.
Yes.
We all have the ability to speakto spirit, human, or otherwise.
Most though do not allow it dueto many different reasons, fear,
doubt, beliefs.
Systems.
Yeah, very true, Martha.
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Very true.
Very wise words.
Fear is a big thing, let's go toimagination.
I can approach a strangersometimes easier than somebody I
know.
Not so much now, and I'm nottalking about the communication
side, because I will approachanybody.
But me as a person...
I found it easy to talk to astranger, so that never ever
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bothered me, and it doesn't tothis day.
And sometimes I think, well,what if this is my imagination?
But the thing is, you won't knowuntil you pass on the message.
And nine out of ten times, itisn't your imagination.
And the thing is, Even if itwas, what does it matter?
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Now you're not going to pass onanything that would hurt
somebody or be conflicting ornot your place to say.
So if you as a friend of afriend and you felt you got this
nice feeling and you could say,do you know what, I'm sure your
horse is here.
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I just got this feeling and Ijust got this picture of what
they used to do.
And you might bring a smile toyour friend.
Because they're remembering him,and you're remembering them with
them, and they might cry.
Don't be embarrassed.
Just give them a hug.
Just give them a hug.
Because sometimes that's allthey need.
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Sometimes that's all we need.
It's just somebody to remembertheir loved ones too, and to
share in that.
Especially if you knew them.
But yeah, you won't know it'syour imagination until you pass
a message on.
So I'm talking about a friendfor a friend.
I'm not talking about what I do.
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Okay.
So this is Taryn.
Okay.
Taryn again, after the traumaticpassing of crystal, my horse, it
took a long time to connect toany.
Other horse again, and I wasgoing to give up riding
altogether.
I went to a yard with a friendwho was looking for a horse for
a daughter, and I was instantlydrawn to another horse and the
rest is history.
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Apache and I have been togetherfor two years now.
He has been very patient with melearning to love again.
He's definitely found me when Ileast expected it.
It definitely feels that.
Definitely feels that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Animals don't want us to nothave another.
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Love is endless.
You have got room to love asmany people, as many animals as
you want to.
They don't get hung up on, well,she loved that cat more than me.
Cats are a little bit different.
They have an opinion.
But on a soul level, that's nothow it is.
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Love is love.
And somebody else is alwayswaiting for that as well.
They, they want to receive that.
And often when somebody's lost apet, lost a horse, they won't be
looking because that's not whatthey're interested in.
They just want to get on withtheir life and, and.
And have memories of the, thelived one.
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And then as Taryn said, ananimal will appear or somebody
says, can you help me?
I've got a rescue.
Can you take this cat on?
Can you take this dog on?
And you'll think, okay, I'lltake them on.
I'll find them a home and lo andbehold.
Often the person keeps theanimal because they've grown
attached to them.
Sometimes animals come back tothe same people in different
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form.
And they may have a similartrait as your older pet.
They may do something and youthink, my dog used to do that.
Or my cat used to do that.
No, it's my imagination.
How do you know?
It may be that they've come backagain to be with you.
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Or because this happens.
The old animal.
The old soul has connected tothe new animal in your life and
presented something that theyused to do.
So the animal will show you thatit's another way of them,
letting you know that they arestill around either in another
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form or the connecting with theanimals that are there, that
does happen too, but it doesn'tmatter.
What matters is if you get thatnice warm feeling and a smile
and you think of them fondly,that's it.
What's more precious thanmemories?
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Beautiful.
So somebody just said, that wasmy next question.
Do they come back?
See, this is how the universeworks.
Again, I don't know who this is.
I've got so many people on here,which is absolutely wonderful.
And I have got no names apartfrom the ones that are showing.
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So I'm assuming this is comingthrough my group page which is
awesome.
That is so cool.
I'm going to read that again.
So somebody's just bought mynext question was, do they come
back?
And I'd literally just explainthat.
So yes, they do.
They can come back as anotherdog, another cat or another
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species.
Or through that animal.
So it might not be the soul thatyou remember, but they're making
themselves known to you throughthat animal.
So the next time that you thinkthat happens, whether you think
it's your imagination or not,acknowledge it.
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Just take a moment and say, isthat you?
Whether it is or not, I'msending you love and thank you
for coming to see me and see howthat feels because when they
know you're paying attention,they will come back more because
they get excited.
Now, I don't know if somebody'sabout to ask this question
because my guidance is justsaying to me, you've got to say
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this Okay.
Somebody might be thinking,well, how can they connect to
you?
If they've come back as anotheranimal to another family,
another person they can, theydon't have to be in one place.
Hence.
That's why I can talk tosomebody in New Zealand, Africa,
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Australia, different time zones.
There's no such thing as time.
They can have.
a new body and be with anotherfamily but they don't forget you
and they love you just as muchokay but they can still
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communicate with you even thoughthey're living another life.
I can't give you a simpleexample because I haven't got
one but trust me they can.
So if somebody was about to askthat Yeah okay, so the delay is
because I'm reading comments.
So we've got another one here.
Again I'm going to read it forthe benefit of the audio later.
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I have had three horses, poniesin my life, all came to me.
I had a strong bond with myfirst pony after an awful
accident.
My second pony came into my lifefor two years.
Blaze is my third pony who Ihave a strong bond with oh, and
you have met and read with me.
I really believe my first ponyis with Blaise and you have just
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said the same could happen.
I now feel I am not imaginingit.
I am sure I have my boystogether.
Hope that makes sense.
Yes, it does.
And excuse my reading now.
Okay, Sam Naylor?
Are you asking me to share thatstory?
Okay.
It's so bizarre talking to meand not having somebody else
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talking back to me.
It feels bizarre.
It's funny how you get used tocertain things.
Obviously I'm used to doinginterviews this way now and not
just chatting myself.
So it feels a bit different.
Okay, any more questions whileI'm waiting for Sam.
Okay, right so, this is fromsomebody on Facebook.
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Oh, it's Tauz, Tauz.
Right, I've just seen your name.
Hi Ronnie, can I share a storyregarding what you are talking
about?
A while back whilst at thefield, my daughter Abby was
running around for hours with alead rope, playing with Bella, a
friend's dog, laughing, rollingaround.
She was having so much fun.
Two days later, I bumped intothat friend who informed me that
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Bella had passed away that lastSunday.
We were both gobsmacked when weboth realised that Bella had
come to Abbey to obviously saygoodbye.
Oh, wow, Taz! That is beautiful.
Absolutely.
Wow.
Wow.
You've just reminded me a storyof a cat I used to have.
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A tortoiseshell cat.
Wow, tours that's beautiful yesand because you didn't know
yeah, that's beautiful.
I'll put that back up again in asecond for people to read cause
that's brilliant.
So before I moved down to Southof England, I used to live in
Lincolnshire and I had thisbeautiful tortoise tortoiseshell
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cat, I'm trying to think of hisname.
Isn't it bizarre?
Anyway.
He was so lovely and so quiet,but he liked to go off
exploring, but he would alwaysbe home, he'd come back every
day so he wasn't a cat thatexplored and would go off for
days, he would always be thereand he loved sitting in front of
the fire and the sunshine.
So whenever he used to put mywashing out in the garden, he
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would lie and and then he wouldcome up, meow and you had to
stroke him, whenever he came upto me, I always stroked him,
that was our greeting.
And I stroked all my cats, butthere was something about about
this cat.
I cannot remember his name.
How bizarre is that?
Anyway yeah, he would come upand I would stroke him.
Now this particular day I didn'tsee him the night before and I
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remember thinking, Felix.
Thank you, Felix.
Thank you, Felix.
He just popped in.
I remember thinking, I haven'tseen Felix.
Maybe he's okay.
So I was doing my washing.
I put my washing out in thegarden.
And it was a really sunny dayand there was this sunbeam on
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the ground about a couple offeet from where I was and I
looked down and there was Felix.
And I goes, Oh, Felix, there youare.
Now, normally I would go up andstroke him.
I always did this.
It was religious.
There was something about him.
I just went up and stroked him.
I had to touch him.
Now this day, I carried on putmy bushing out and said hi
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Felix, and I didn't stroke him.
Now I didn't think anythingabout it until I went in the
back door.
Put my basket down, and Ithought I didn't stroke him.
So I went back out, and he'dgone, and I thought oh yeah,
maybe he's in the house.
So I came back in and I wasshouting Felix.
And I couldn't find him.
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I thought, Oh, maybe he's justgone off exploring again.
Later on in that day, this ladyhappened to be coming past on a
push bike and she says, Oh, doyou, do you have a tortoise
shell cat?
And I said, yes, I do.
She said, Oh, I'm, I'm reallysorry.
I hope I'm wrong, but there's acat at the side of the road,
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about half a mile.
On the lane, she says it mightnot be your cat, but I know that
I've seen cat simmer in yourgarden, so I says, well, thank
you so much and I got on my bikeand I went down this lane and I
was like, see the story.
This is what I mean about thestory, the emotion I can feel
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like now.
And this is years ago, yearsago.
And, as I got close, I knew itwas Felix, but as I got closer,
I realized he'd been there for awhile, he'd been there, probably
overnight, and it was only a fewhours ago that I'd seen Felix in
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my garden, but I didn't strokehim.
I knew then that it was hisspirit that came back to say
bye, because I didn't strokehim, and I stroked him.
Every time I saw him, that wasour greeting, always, I'll just
touch him, even if I was busy,that day, I didn't, that was the
first time, I didn't stroke himbecause he wasn't there, I could
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not physically have touched him,but he was there visually, and I
remember relaying this story tosomebody, a few months later,
I'd moved down here, So I wasn'tin Lancashire and my cat at the
time was sat on the bed and as Iwas saying this story, my cat
hissed and sat up and I knewthat Felix was under the bed.
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His energy made himself knownbecause we were talking about
him.
So this is what I mean.
When you think about youranimals and you talk about them,
They come closer and they lovethat because they know you
haven't forgotten them and theycan be in another body, having
another life, they could be inspirit, whatever, but they can
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still hear that call.
They can feel that heartvibration from you.
And it never goes away.
Ever.
It never dies.
It's always there.
Always.
Yeah.
Lovely.
So thank you, Tors.
So I'm going to put that upagain for anybody that wants to
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read that.
So Tors is saying that Abby wasrunning around playing with a
dog in the field and it was afriend's dog laughing, rolling
around.
She was having so much fun.
Two days later, she bumped intoa friend who informed her that
Benno had passed away that lastSunday.
So she came to say goodbye andshe probably wanted Tawes to let
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her mum know.
So this is how anybody receivesmessages.
Tawes would pass that message onand say, I saw your dog or we
saw her, we saw her.
Now, the owner might not be ableto take that at that moment if
they're really grieving.
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But at some point it will givethem comfort, or they'll ask
about it.
On rare occasions, maybesomebody doesn't feel that way,
or doesn't want to feel thatway.
For whatever reasons, and wedon't judge people.
It's up to that individual toaccept it, allow it.
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It's up to them.
You can't force somebody to seeand feel the way that you do.
But hopefully when they'reready, they will get
confirmation in their own way.
And that applies to humans,animals, okay?
There is no difference.
Our humans, our family, ourfriends that are no longer here
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physically, want us to know thattoo.
And they will make their selfknown.
Very much so.
Very much so.
But if it's close, thensometimes it's too painful and
they don't do anything to upsetus or frighten us.
I don't want to do that.
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Okay, so we've been on an hournearly and I don't want to keep
chatting and, and taking up yourtime for the sake of it.
So if anybody has got anotherquestion.
Okay this is Sam.
I think Tom came back, but hissocks replaced it.
So Sam's my dear friend, SamNaylor, some of you will know
her.
And Sam has had lots of animals,yeah, lots of animals.
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Thomas was a feral cat.
Adopted Sam, Sam didn't adoptThomas he adopted Sam and yeah,
it was very feral and Samstarted to feed him outside and
make sure he was okay causeshe's a big softie when it comes
to animals.
Anyway, eventually he started tocome closer and came into the
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home.
And now he's part of theirfamily.
He's big part of the family.
In fact, he's a hierarchy.
But it was really interesting.
So I can't remember the whole ofthis story, but there was a
point when I was sat in thekitchen one day and I.
I think I said to Sam he's gotunfinished business.
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He was talking about his oldowner and something about
unfinished business and that'swhat came from Thomas as I was
sat next to him.
Now, I don't know how longafterwards this happened, but
Sam had to take Thomas to thevets.
And it turned out that he'd gota microchip.
And the vets said, Oh, he'schipped.
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And of course, when you've takenon an animal and you've come to
love them and they've adoptedyou as their human, as their
person, it's like, well, what ifthat person wants that animal
back?
It's a bit, oh my goodness, wethought he was just a feral cat.
Anyway.
The vet found out who the ownerwas and said, do you want me to
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contact them?
And obviously Sam said yes.
But she was concerned that theowner would want to take the cat
back because they've grown tolove him as part of the family.
And this is maybe not quiteright, but it suggested the
story.
So I do apologize, Sam, if it'snot quite right.
What happened was they got intouch with the owner who
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actually contacted Sam, I think.
And said I think he was fairlyoh he he didn't maybe like the
man of the house I can'tremember.
There was something though.
She was more than happybasically for Sam to keep Thomas
and said, he's obviously foundhis home with you and that's
fine.
You know, I'm glad he's aliveand I'm glad he's well.
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That was the unfinishedbusiness.
But Sam didn't know that.
I didn't know what that was.
I just got, the cat said thisunfinished business.
And he didn't give me the fullpicture, that's all he said, but
circumstances led to Sam goingto the vets.
him being scanned and findingout that she got previous home.
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And then that was the unfinishedbusiness because although maybe
he didn't get on with the familyas well as he did with Sam he
still wanted them to know thathe was okay.
Because That lady wondered if hewas alive, wondered if he was
alive.
So, even if an animal might notbe your best buddy, deep down
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they will want you to know thatthey're okay.
If they go missing or if they'vefound another home, they
wouldn't want you to suffer andthink that, where is that
animal, are they trapped, arethey lost, they wouldn't want
that, so, if they're able to.
They will want the other personto know I'm safe.
I'm found, but I'm here now, orI'm safe.
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Can you come and get me?
It's up to them, but they wouldwant the other person to know.
And this is why when an animalcomes back in another life,
another form, they will stillwant their old family to know
that they're okay.
And they love them just as much.
There isn't a case of, I loveyou more.
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There is enough love.
I can promise you, but us humanslike to think I love them so
much.
What if they love somebody else?
They love you too, just as much.
I promise you.
They love you just as much, justas much.
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Martha is saying anything for mypets.
Okay.
Martha, give me a name of a pet.
Can't guarantee, but just giveme one of your pets and I'll see
what comes through.
Oh, I'm just being prompted toshare one more story too.
Okay.
Roxy.
Okay.
I'm going to do that in asecond, Martha, but I just don't
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want to forget this.
So just bear with me and then Ithink we're going to call it,
call it a night because I'mgetting a bit hoarse excuse the
pun.
Right.
So on a horse visit, on ananimal visit.
Okay sometimes people will getme out.
When it's coming to end of timefor their, their lovely horse,
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their animal.
Okay.
And sometimes they just wantconfirmation that they're doing
the right thing.
Or they want to know what thehorse thinks, what the animal
thinks.
And I can honestly say, hand onheart, all animals would like to
go if they have a choice withdignity.
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There is no right or wronganswer because it might have
external circumstances that youhave to say goodbye to an animal
and they never say, please don'tdo that to me.
Sometimes they have a, a strongdesire to live because they've
got things to do and they're notpast it despite what others
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might think, and it might bethat they have another role not
the role that the person thinksthey should have or have had.
But again, it is individual tothat animal and that person.
There is no same story, samescenario.
That's what I'm trying to say.
So they choose if they can to gowith dignity.
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So there is no right or wrong,or when is the best time.
No, when it's coming up to it,and sometimes there might be
something that comes along andsays, Well I can give this
animal more time all you have todo is ask the animal in your
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heart.
Are you ready?
And it's not easy, I know, butjust ask, Are you ready?
And feel what comes.
But again, there's no right orwrong answer.
But we do.
often have to take that finalresponsibility and say, okay,
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today's the day.
And it isn't easy.
It isn't easy, but they almostgo, okay, and you can breathe
because you know, so yes, itisn't easy, but it's something
sometimes we have to do.
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And they have never, ever, evercome back to me and say, well, I
wasn't ready to go because theyknow that that person did their
very best at that moment in timeand that's all you can do.
And that's all they ask for.
And even animals that may have.
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More to show if that person isnot able for whatever reason,
financially, physically,emotionally able to offer that,
and they know they can'tphysically do that, but they
don't want to send the horse offsomewhere else and goodness
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knows where it will end up.
They want to do the best thingthat they think is possible.
They understand that.
I've been to see a horse Iwasn't sure why I was there
because everything the horse wasgiving me, I was giving to the
owner and I was thinking, I'mnot understanding where this is
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going.
And then the horse almost said,but it doesn't matter what she
chooses.
And I understood in those fewwords what the horse meant
because the horse knew that theperson could not physically look
after them in the way that theywanted to.
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With the vet bills andeverything else.
They couldn't do that.
They couldn't do that.
And they'd already come to thatdecision and a vet would never
put a healthy animal down.
So I'm not talking about.
that scenario.
Usually the vets have alreadysaid what they can do and what
the alternatives are and we canpreserve life but it's not
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always possible either on theanimal's point of view or the
human's point of view.
But I have never had an animalCome back and say they made the
wrong choice because they knowon a level that that soul has
done their very, very best.
So do not have any guilt.
Do not have regrets.
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I know you will.
Don't hold on to them.
Let them go.
Let that emotion come throughyou.
Let that grief come through you.
And when you think of them andsmile and have tears, know that
you're connected to them.
No, they're with you.
Sorry, that came through andthey wanted me to share this
(58:38):
with you.
Right, okay.
Martha, Roxy.
Is that your cat?
The reason I'm saying that isbecause I've got a cat and I've
got a dog and they're sat.
But they're not sat closetogether okay, so somebody's
cat's here too.
Okay so you'll have to tell meif I'm on the right track
because I've got a cat and I'vegot a dog.
(58:59):
Okay.
Cause the dog and they're notsat together and it might not be
that they were there at the sametime because the dog is saying,
looking at the cat as if to saythe cat had the upper hand at
times.
The cat had the upper hand.
Now, let's see what Roxy has tosay.
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So the dog I'm seeing ispresenting me with a paw and
looking at the paw, the leftpaw, so just lifting the paw up,
okay and a colour.
It's a two tone color.
I could be on the wrong track,but it doesn't matter.
(59:40):
So this is what I'm sayingabout, you could be right, you
could be wrong, but you don'tknow until you get feedback.
Okay.
Because quite often you get morethan one animal coming through.
So Martha, the dog I'm getting,showing me the left paw sat.
Two tone, thank you.
So I'm going to put that up sopeople can see.
So you've seen this in realtime.
(01:00:01):
This is how it works.
I get a picture, a visual and Ihave to say it.
And you have to be not afraid tobe wrong, okay?
You have not got to worry that,oh, it might be wrong, because
what will people think, but youhave to say it until you get
feedback.
You don't know.
Okay, so, yes, two tone.
Roxy, sorry, I'm just, I'm justlistening.
(01:00:24):
I will say, cause I'm secondthinking what's coming through.
Sometimes an animal will comethrough feeling masculine,
horses especially.
They can appear masculine, butthey might be a mare, they might
have a masculine personality andthey can feel masculine, but it
could be a male and vice versa.
(01:00:44):
So as I'm communicating, I haveto be clear.
But what I'm getting, becauseI'm getting a bit confused
because I'm getting two, I'mgetting female, male, now it
might be the cat and the dog.
So I'm just going back to Roxy.
So Martha, does this make senserather than trying to describe
the animal?
What's coming through with Roxyis sometimes I would want to be
(01:01:08):
braver than I was, but youhelped.
I want to say she, but again,I'm not a hundred percent on
this.
Okay.
So is Roxy a female?
It's, it's Roxy female.
I'll carry on with what's comingthrough.
Sometimes I would want to feelbraver than I actually was.
So they give me a bit of theirpersonality.
(01:01:29):
Yeah, she was a she.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
So again, people, you've seenthis in real time, this is how
it works.
But when you've got somebodyface to face, it's a little bit
quicker.
Okay obviously I'm waiting forthe messages to come through.
Right, okay.
So, she feels...
That at times she wished shestepped forward and stuck up for
(01:01:50):
herself a bit more.
But she's saying you helped her,you helped her.
There's a tenderness with thisbecause she felt timid because
she's saying, I tried to bebrave.
I wanted to be braver than Iwas.
So what's happening is theanimal has given me part of
their personality so that Marthacan recognize this as her dog.
(01:02:12):
And the paw that she showed mewas the two toned paw.
Okay, so Martha's saying yes,that's her personality.
So for the benefit of the audio,because I hope this is going to
make sense Martha has asked meto connect to her dog Roxy.
I didn't know what sex it wasbecause I'd got a cat there too.
(01:02:32):
But she felt feminine and Marthahas acknowledged that the dog is
indeed she.
And she also showed me her paw,two toned, and Martha has
confirmed that the dog is twotoned on that poor and that is
to a little bit timid.
Thanks, Martha.
You're doing well here.
Bless you.
Love you lots.
Thank you.
(01:02:52):
Yeah.
So Martha's just confirming thatthe cat is male and the dog is
female.
So I've got two animals here.
Actually, the cat's just sittingback.
Ah, thank you.
Okay.
So the cat came through becausethe dog was timid when the dog
was in dog form.
Not like that now, obviously,but.
(01:03:14):
When she was a dog, she wastimid and the cat saying, I'll
bring the dog forward.
Sometimes other animals willspeak on behalf of another
animal.
And you're thinking really, butyeah, sometimes that happens.
Don't ask me why.
Maybe they're too busy beinganother animal, but that's what
happens.
Yeah let me just see if shewants to say anything before we
(01:03:35):
go because I'm definitelygetting tired now.
So what she's saying Martha isshe's definitely not the same
anymore because what happens isshe showed me is this demeanor
was soft and a little hesitantand then all of a sudden her
energy has grown and she'sbeautiful and sometimes she's
around your other animals.
(01:03:57):
Because of her experience ofbeing a dog with you, she can
help the other animals.
She gives them a bit of strengththat she now has in soul form.
This may be going way over forsome people or maybe not.
Who knows?
So she wants you to know thatshe's still around but she's not
(01:04:18):
the same.
Her energy has grown and she'smore confident in her energy and
she helps you with your otheranimals which is lovely.
Right guys, I think it's time.
I am dying for a cup of tea.
I hope you've enjoyed thislittle interaction.
It feels funny not chatting tosomebody and just having me.
(01:04:40):
It feels like I'm talking tosomebody and there's nobody in
the room, but obviously there isbecause they're all talking to
me this way.
If you have any questions, I'mnot talking personal, but
general questions.
If you've got a personalquestion and get in touch with
me through email, but if you'vegot a general question then just
send me a message.
I am happy to give up my time Ialways pass on messages.
(01:05:02):
I do this because that is what Ipromised, this is part of my
work and I do it.
And I love to hear back frompeople when it's helped them for
whatever reason it's thislovely, it's nice, it's like
getting a hug back cause again Idon't know until I get feedback.
(01:05:22):
I don't need to know thedetails.
I, I don't need to knowanything.
All I need to know that is themessage has landed and been
received because I am acommunicator.
In more ways than one and I'm achannel for messages to come
through And to get to where theyneed to go to and that's part of
(01:05:42):
my work.
Thank you so so much for joiningme today and I hope I made sense
and I hope that It's brought asmile and a glow and a bit of
confidence to anybody thatthinks I did feel my dog.
I did feel my cat or theirhorses and your horses and
(01:06:03):
animals that you have now don'tfeel left out because you still
love another one.
They know that you're notcomparing them.
So just be happy when you feelthem and acknowledge it,
acknowledge it to yourself.
Even if you think it'simagination, I hear that, I feel
(01:06:26):
that, I see that.
Imagination or not, thank you.
Because the more you do that,you're saying to yourself, okay,
I'm ready to receive.
And I promise you, you'll getsigns, you'll get messages,
you'll get a hug inside yourheart, from the inside out.
(01:06:46):
And if you want one of me, thereyou go.
Free hugs all around.
So take care, thanks Jane.
Another amazing lady, Jane.
Animal healer, human healer,because it's all the same, it's
not one or the other, it's thesame.
We're all made of the samemolecules, energy.
(01:07:08):
On that note, love you lots.
Thank you so much for being apart of this.
And I'm here if anybody needsme, if I can answer, I will do.
If it's a one to one, then do itpersonally please.
But general questions if I cananswer you, I will will do.
Right, I'm off for a cup of tea.
Take care and bye for now.
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