Podcast Interview with Kerri Lake - www.generateharmony.com - Equine Voices Podcast

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Ronnie (00:00):
Hello and welcome to Equine Voices.
My name is Ronnie and I'm so, soexcited to have the opportunity
to invite Kerri Lake, Kerri isan animal communicator, however,
there's a lot more to it.
She also has her own podcastcalled Compass Conversations.
She's an author of Listen to aHorse and also Spiritually

(00:20):
Gifted.
They have a new venture comingup and we're going to hear lots
more about that as we go throughthe interview.
So, I'll bring Kerri in.
She can introduce herself.
If you have any questions, thenplease feel free to message,
we'll get to the questions oncethe interview gets into flow, if
that's okay.
So without further ado, I'llslow down now.

(00:41):
Here's Kerri welcome Kerri wouldyou like to take the floor and
explain a about yourself,please?

Kerri (00:49):
Thank you so much, Ronnie.
I'm really happy to be here.
Super excited for ourconversation.
Taking it a little bit more, soIt is sort of the 10, 000
question of what is it that youdo Kerri you know, I don't have
a title per se, other than justfunctioning human and my

(01:11):
relationship with animalcommunication goes back to
infancy, really, being threeyears old, four years old, and
my parents.
telling me, no, Kerri the dog isnot talking to you.
And the grass is not singing toyou, Carrie.
The apple trees are not tellingjokes.
And to me, it was just allalways very true.

(01:32):
It was more true than humaninteractions, really, that I
could feel non human life movingthrough me, knowing who I am,
acknowledging me, smiling,singing, but I didn't have human
language for it, I didn't havevocabulary, so all I really knew

(01:53):
how to say is, you know, the dogsays this, and the trees are
cracking jokes, because I wouldsit next to the tree and giggle.
Right?
And so when you're a kid and youonly have this much vocabulary
you try to find a way to expressit, right?
And so I went through childhood,trying to figure out how I could

(02:15):
be everything and see and feeleverything that I do, while
being told I was lying and I waswrong when I knew I wasn't.
And it led to, a lifetime ofpaying attention, I think, in a
really unique way.
Always paying attention to theanimals, but more than paying
attention to them, I was payingattention to what it felt like

(02:38):
to be next to them.
How it felt to be me, next tothe dogs, and the horses, and
the cats, and the trees and howdifferent that was, how
different the feeling was when ahuman walked in the room.
You know, around ages 11 and 12,you have a lot more vocabulary

(02:59):
and a lot more different ways torelate to your own experiences.
So I started paying attention towhat emotions feel like in the
body.
I started paying attention to,what my skin felt like, when my
dad walks through the room andthen my mom walks through the

(03:19):
room, everything was changing,changing, changing.
And then I would look over atthe dog or look at the horses if
they were picking me up from thebarn.
And I would be like withoutwords, do you guys notice that?
And they would go, yeah.
And I would just listen beforewords to how the animals relate
to people.

(03:41):
And then I would feel the humanside and how do humans relate to
animals?
What changes in humans when ananimal walks in the room?
But all of this was happeningbefore language, before I had
words for it.
So rationalizing that I'm ahuman, just like everybody, it
just made sense to me thatabsolutely everybody has these

(04:01):
abilities.
And it was a mystery that nobodywas talking about it.
Like why do we react to ouremotions rather than just point
at them and marvel and go, whoa,did you notice that change?
Did you notice like, wow,somebody said they're sick.
And then all of the air wentwobble, wobble, wobble, wobble.

(04:24):
Did you notice that?
And instead, you know, peoplewould say that they're sick and
draw all their energy down andback and guard and push away.
And it was such a mystery to me.
So you know what the, thiscapacity to communicate with
animals and what I later learnedis called animal communication

(04:44):
for me was a way, it was anamazing doorway for me to start
acknowledging the ability andthe awareness that I had and put
it in a direction that can be ofservice.
And then at some point, I, Icouldn't deny the rest of
everything that I was also awareof, and so had to find a way to

(05:07):
speak to consciousness beyondthe, what we, we tend to address
in animal communication, and,and the, the way the
conversations go I just had to,you know, expand into more of
myself beyond that.
So that that's kind of a longintroduction around this idea of

(05:29):
animal communication that I cangenuinely say is part of the
foundation of absolutelyeverything I share because the
animals kept me alive.
The animals are the ones thatkept saying, yeah, keep going.
Yeah, no.
Yeah.
We see you go, go, go.
But it's, it's grown vastlybeyond that.

Ronnie (05:49):
Thank you, Kerri that was a lovely explanation.
If you tell people you're ananimal communicator, everybody
has their own view of what thatmeans.
And some people think it's likecommunicating body language.
And for me, I always say, Idon't study body language.
It's not that sort ofcommunication.
So I'm not like a trainer and asI'm listening to you, it was

(06:14):
there all the time.
It was always there for you andit was very natural.
I remember when I first started,or before then actually, I used
to belong to a circle.
It was a meditation circle.
It was friends meeting and itwas like doing little
meditations.
And I would be sat therethinking, Oh, I never get
anything, but I would, I wouldget things.

(06:36):
And it's when you speak and saywhat you received, then you get
either confirmation, clarity, ornot, depending on the case.
So intuition and guidance isalways there central and what
comes from that are manybranches from the tree.
Animal communication, healers,it all branches off, but it all

(07:00):
comes back to the same source,the same stream it's
fascinating.
Took a long time for me to notto acknowledge cause I'm better
at speaking to strangers.
I don't have a problem withconnecting strangers.
But I did have confidence issueswith myself saying, what right?
Have I got to say that this iswhat I do at the beginning.

(07:21):
And I was sort of say what I didlike this, you know, I do this.
Yeah.
But I also knew deep down, itwasn't just that that was a
doorway into something else.
And it's a doorway to connect topeople.
And often people will connectwith somebody if they think
they're doing it for the horseor the dog or the cat, whereas
they wouldn't do it forthemselves.
And I absolutely trust and knowthat that is one of the reasons.

(07:47):
As you develop and change andevolve, that is, Changes with
you and there are many otherthings that comes from that so
it's not just that's what I amThere's a whole whole Globe that
people aren't aware of but it'sthere that makes sense

Kerri (08:09):
It makes perfect sense to me.
So the words that I might offeraround that is the like Like
you're saying there's always thethe central essence the the core
essence of who I am that is Youcreator consciousness.
And for a while, maybe the mostcomplimentary expression is

(08:30):
animal communication.
And that is what I have to shareto compliment the world, to be
of service which at the sametime reflects back to me to help
me see more of who I am, right?
It is a mutual benevolence whenwe let ourselves and we have the

(08:53):
courage to have our thinkerbecome aware of this whole other
type of information andintellect that is nonlinear that
we call intuitive, you know,our, our, our direct connection
with creation before it becomesa concept or a word, all of that

(09:15):
communication is happening.
The more we explore and, andplay with it ourselves, like you
were saying, to, to speak it,once you, you play with it, and
you might be worried, maybe itdoesn't mean anything, like, who
am I to say this, but the moreyou touch it and give it your

(09:38):
breath, that, that, excuse me,that is the way to discover self
validation, because you feelthe, the harmonic residence in
your own cells, When the, thewords that you're saying, when
the the consciousness thatyou're expressing carries no

(09:59):
conflict, no conflict with self,no conflict with being, no
conflict with, with theuniversal harmony.
It's that feeling that we mightcall flow or my friend, Chris
Adderson calls it hum.
It's when, when the the, theexpressed presence is, is

(10:21):
expressed.
contributing to the overallcreation of harmony at it.
That is our natural way ofbeing.
And I think part of what lendsto, at least this is what I've
been seeing the way it makessense to me is when people.
are shy of their intuition or,you know, like many of us, even

(10:46):
sometimes I catch myself doingit like, Oh no, Kerri stop it.
You don't know this.
No, come on, Carrie.
Like, no, you're probably, no,you just want that.
You know, all of the dowdythings, you know, it happens.
It's, it's always an option.
Doubt is always an option if youwant it.
I'll just say that much.
Right.
But you don't have to, you don'thave to go there.
But I think a lot of people dogo there because we're so tight.

(11:13):
That intellect is what matters.
It takes linear intellect tomove on the planet, to move
through the physical world.
And you look at our education,you look at society.
I mean, this is nothing new tothe people who are going to be
part of this conversation,right?
That it takes a linear intellectto navigate the world.

(11:39):
And the suggestion thatintuition cannot be trusted, It
only comes when you are tryingto make intuition look and
function like intellect.
When we leave the space that theintuitive nature feels

(12:01):
different, functionsdifferently, relates to data and
information differently than alinear intellect.
It's like two differentlanguages.
And one of them has been welldeveloped in our walk on the
planet.
The other for most of us.
It, you know, even those of uswho were born very sensitive, we

(12:24):
find a way to exercise thatintuitive side.
But in a world that functionsthis way, we find, you know, we
have to find the little cracksin order to shine the light and
have it reflected back to usthat we can feel the harmonic
that says, ah, yes, but there'sa lot of re educating the

(12:48):
thinker to say yes to all theintellect and yet.
Leave some space for what youhaven't asked yet.
Leave some space for what youdon't know how to ask for.
Leave some space for what alsoexists, but requires a different

(13:10):
approach to data than this thingcalled intellect.
that creates repeatability,provability, explainability,
all, all of those things.
So when, when we open to what wedon't know and help the
intellect recognize that'sactually where we want to be in

(13:34):
what we don't know, it'sactually safe.
Just feeling vulnerable doesn'tmean there's any danger.
Having a intimate relationshipwith, I don't know, that is
where life is actuallyhappening.

Ronnie (13:52):
Thank you you're so eloquent how you explain, I was
gonna add something.
When I used to get messages forpeople there'd always be a feel
and then a word or a name wouldpop in either the horse or a
person.
'cause it's not always aboutanimals.
And the person would pop in and.

(14:13):
It would normally be when I'mdriving.
Whereas now it's not so much.
It's any time.
It's literally anywhere, anyplace, any time the feel would
come and I would know thatthere's something coming.
And then I would think of theperson and it's almost like

(14:33):
you're turning a hose pipe onand there's a water waiting to
flow and it's there, you know,it's there, but until you turn
the tap on the flow can't comethrough.
So I knew the words weren'tgoing to come because the feel
was there.
So I would either text or nowit's easier just to record.
So I would start the first wordwith the feel, whatever comes

(14:57):
through and then the rest wouldflow.
And when you're in that stateand you are in that process
there's no judgment there's noright or wrong that There's no
highs or lows, it's just a verypeaceful place to be.
I don't have to ask.

(15:18):
I don't have to say, Oh, is thatcorrect?
Cause I know as it's flowing,it's correct.
Afterwards I'm like, Whoa, okay.
But at that time, the feel andthe resonance change and the
tone changes, it's all flowingand feeling.
But to start with, if you don'tacknowledge that first feel,

(15:40):
that first, okay, I knowsomething's coming and you
think, is that my imagination oris it not?
Because I would ask that atfirst.
I'm saying, oh, I've driven pastthis spot before.
I got a message there before.
You know, it's my head thinking.
And I would sort of ignore it,but my, my calling card is three
times.
If I get it three times in arow, it's pay attention, please.

(16:01):
This needs to go out now.
So then I was pull over or sortwhat I'm doing.
And then I was sending amessage.
I'm smiling cause I can feel asmile coming from my energy.
And it's like, but you don'thave to do that now.
Can you remember?
I don't have to have the threecalling cards because it's, it's
there.
So as I'm speaking, I'm gettingconfirmation for myself, for me,

(16:25):
about my own development, my ownprogress.
And the feel is there and thenthe words come.
But it's almost like anotheraspect to me, like a mother with
a child.
Giving you encouragement andgiving you that nice feel
without without a gender.

Kerri (16:45):
It's so helpful when we share our own awareness of our
own process.
I think the more differentpeople share their different
processes, maybe that's going togive people permission to have
their own process.
And I love what you just saidabout, you know, your, your your

(17:07):
mind and your, your personalitywas saying, I wait for three, I
wait for three and that's how Iknow, but the smile says you,
you do already know, you knewwhen the first one came, right?
And so that's, it's an exampleof making friends between the,
the heart and the mind.
Because the mind will say, well,I, I can doubt myself pretty

(17:30):
good here.
So I'm just going to doubtmyself for a while.
And the heart can say, that'stotally fine.
Doubt yourself until you getthree times because the message
is still going to show up.
It's still going to find youbecause you asked and that's the
benevolence.
So, you know, whether it's, Iwait, it reminds me of a client

(17:52):
friend of mine who was in theUK.
She lives down in Kent.
And when I was out thereteaching a few years ago, she
was, she's this amazing magicalhuman, but she would sit there
and say, I don't get any, Ithere, this is rubbish.
I am not intuitive.
I can't do any of this.
All right.

(18:13):
I said, all right, so challengethe universe.
She said, fine, I'll believe it.
If I see stars, that's it.
That's the only way.
And she's thinking there's nochance this is going to happen.
Right?
So after our day, we go, we goto the pub or something and we
go sit down and she, she choosesa booth, sits down, slides in

(18:36):
and the decoration right on thewall, right there was this
little display of stars.
And she's like, no, no, no.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Deny, deny, deny.
And she put out like five or sixmore challenges, which of course
were all met with total joy fromher higher consciousness and the

(18:57):
universe entirely and thebenevolence of her being.
She still challenges theuniverse.
It's adorable.
But, you know, my, the take homemessage on that is it's okay.
Ha, ha, ha.
It's okay for the intellect todoubt, right?
Because it's part of ourrelationship.

(19:17):
It's part of our feedback systemto all of creation to say, well,
here's how it's working rightnow.
What else would you bring me?
Show me, show me more of who Iam.
Show me who I am so that it'sunmissable.
And like you're saying, when youacknowledge that very first

(19:38):
feeling, you feel somethingcoming.
You feel something coming withthat essence that's absent of
conflict that those are my wordsfor it when I know it matches
true is there's like, I don't,it's not like I would die on
this hill for this bit ofinformation.

(19:59):
It's not like that.
It's just you could doubt me allyou want, but you're not going
to convince me.
It's I'm not feeling this right.
And when, when it's that absentof conflict, If I have a job in
that moment, it's just toacknowledge it.
Exactly what you just said, justto say, okay, I see you.
So show me, show me what comesnext.

(20:20):
And then the mind might come inand say, no, you know, that
could be my imagination rightthere is my next opportunity to
befriend the mind, to befriendthe doubt and say, okay, there's
some doubt there.
I acknowledge it.

(20:40):
I'm going to acknowledge it.
And just watch what happens whenyou start acknowledging the
doubt, saying, oh, that's,that's just my imagination and,
and all the things that it says.
Watch what happens when, fromthe heart, you just turn and you
say, I hear you.
Thank you for keeping me ontrack.
Let's open up and see what elseis here.

(21:01):
So you open a dialogue betweenthe intellectual information
approach and the intuitiveinformation approach.
And it creates a gentleness, atleast in my experience.
This is what I have been findingand kind of demanding because I

(21:22):
was tired of things being harshand scary.
So I just started gettingcurious how this all happens in
gentleness.
And that meant I had to learnwhat gentle felt like, which I
thought I knew.
But I turned out I didn't know.
I thought I knew I had toactually have the experience of
gentleness.

(21:44):
to relax into an evolution.

Ronnie (21:48):
That was so beautiful.
I was smiling when you saidabout proof.
I don't ask very often now, butif I ask for proof, it's usually
because I know the answer and Idon't get it.
I'm going, right, okay, show methis then.
And I know it won't come becauseI know the answer.
I'm asking give me proof when Iactually know what the answer
is.

(22:08):
If I generally would likesomething and I'm excited then I
do, I get it.
So I stopped asking if I'masking, it's usually because I
know the answer.
I love that.
And it's usually something youneed to do and you're
procrastinating or yeah.
I think if my intuition and meto people sometimes I used to

(22:31):
say, I don't say this now, I'llsay, come on, you know what I'm
like, I've got to see it therebefore, before I know what
you're talking about.
Show me what it is.
I'd want it like that.
Otherwise I'm not going to seeit.
I don't say that now, but I usedto say, come on.

Kerri (22:47):
I love that.
See that to me, that's likeconversations with God, right?
I'm the one in the physical andthis is the intellect.
This is the mind speaking rightnow, right?
I'm the one in the physical.
I'm the one bumping through thisplace.
So bring it to me in a way thatI can't miss it.
You know, so I love thatconversation that you had and

(23:11):
any subsequent conversation.
It can be so playful.
So in 1995, 1995, I was tired ofbeing on the planet.
I, and I was tired of people notbeing kind to each other.

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And I felt like my existencedidn't matter at all because I
was still surrounded by peoplewho weren't.
Not being kind, and I had givenmyself this, this responsibility
and mantle that my job, in thewhole universe, is to show

(23:52):
people that it's okay to be niceto each other.
And so, watching people be notnice to each other, I judged
that I had failed.
And I didn't want to be aroundanymore trying to do this
because I judged that I just wasa complete waste.
so much.
Like this, this is unnecessary.

(24:15):
I'm done.
I'm done.
It's not going to work.
And so I literally just laiddown and stopped participating
in life because I knew we don'thave to stay, right?
We, we can go anytime and it'sokay.
There's a lot of reasons that wedon't.
But at that point I was justscrew it.
I'm out.

(24:35):
Peace out.
And took myself right to thatchoice point.
That place that people call thevoid that is black, not because
it's, it's not empty.
It's black because it'severything.
And in that space, I was shown alittle candle that was lit with
a beautiful little flamesurrounded by this amazing

(24:59):
opalescence, like iridescentopalescence.
And it was like.
Like, for real, the mostbeautiful thing I had ever
encountered, ever, and I was inthis place of total relief from
the weight and the density ofthe body and the physical.
And I saw this and I'm like, oh,yes, this is what I know.

(25:24):
And from over here, two essencescame to greet me as one.
There were no bodies oranything, it was just these
essences.
And it was like, hello andwelcome.
And there's laughter and joy andlike, if there were bodies, it
would have been beautiful.
dancing and touching and huggingand greetings and familiarity

(25:47):
and the deepest intimacy.
And, and after the originalgreeting and all this laughter,
it was like they said, okay,okay, okay, okay, okay, look, we
know why you're here.
We get it.
And if you're ready to blow outthe flame, just blow.
The love is the same, no matterwhat you do.

(26:08):
And they were gesturing over atthis candle, the most beautiful
thing I'd ever seen.
And I realized, Oh my God, themost beautiful thing I'd ever
seen.
That's me.
That's a being.
Whoa.
And it's like you know, in amovie it would have, the screen
would go whoa And they saidbefore you decide though Can we

(26:37):
remind you why you took a bodyin the first place?
And held in all of this love.
I'm like, yes Please remind me.
Why are we doing this?
And I was given you, I guess youcall it a download.
I would just call it a completereview of all of life all the

(26:57):
way back to separation from one.
And why would we do that in thefirst place?
And then why, whydifferentiation?
Why all this creativity?
How, how does it work?
How do the feedback systemswork?
How is information working?
Why physical?
Why planets?
Why electromagnetism?
All the way to this planet,species, interrelationships Why

(27:22):
humanity?
Why free will?
Why answering all of thesequestions with a sense that's so
complete that it all seemsobvious and benevolent.
Then it went further.
Why this family?
Why this body?
Why female?

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Why this color hair?
Why this journey?
What's it all about?
Why be involved with people whoare not nice?
Why, why, why, why, why?
And then, but with such a, abenevolence, not like going to
school, not like that at all,but this like complete wonder,

(28:03):
like look at how it all happens.
Look how it all works! Thisinteracts with this, interacts
with this, and being shown allof this with tremendous intimate
humor.
to where they, they finallybrought me to this point of
choosing to stop living.

(28:25):
And then they start teasing me,like poking me and saying, and
you wanted to die because a boywasn't nice to you.
Look at this is how the universeworks.
And, and you did this because aboy wasn't nice to you.
And they, they were, I mean,raucous laughter.
It would have been sidesplitting laughter for how
seriously humanity takes itself.

(28:47):
And it's one of the things thatwe're working through to
discover that lightness of heartand how seriously we take
ourselves and whether or notthat's still, you know, like,
how's that working for you?
So they, they top this off byreminding me that being in a
body on this planet is reallythe only place you can get

(29:08):
chocolate chip cookies and hugponies.
So, you know, it's up to you,Kerri whatever you want to do.
And of course I'm like, okay,okay, okay, okay.
Stop.
I will go back and right backinto my body.
And you know, many otherexperiences from that, but all
of that to say, especially onthis journey of reclaiming our

(29:31):
intuitive capacity and welcomingit, welcoming our essence, our
uniqueness into expressionthrough our physical, our
physical body.
there's a reason why thethousands of years of teaching
point to joy and enjoyment andthat manifestation and all of

(29:53):
this is about that feeling ofenjoyment because that is the,
that is what creation feels likeand everything else is there for
your entertainment to buy intoor not and the more we, we
entertain these perspectives andat least again I might be

(30:15):
completely caught up in theatrocities of the world, and
what that person said, and thatperson's gonna do if they sit in
that chair, and whatever,everything that's gonna go
haywire.
No matter how caught up theintellect might be in those
things.
we have this ability to leavesome space open for what else is

(30:38):
going on.
We have this ability to leavesome space open for how, how
does the love of creationalready have this well in hand?
Because everybody is on ajourney, whether they know it or
not, everybody is on the journeyhome to the heart and there are
a lot of diversities on thisplanet.

(31:01):
A lot of diverse journeyshappening at the same time on
this planet.
So, I can take myself really,really seriously, but it helps
to leave a little bit of spaceopen for chocolate chip cookies
and ponies.
And I'm going to add croissantsto that because that's where I'm
going when we're finished hereis to the croissant shop.

(31:22):
I'm just saying.

Ronnie (31:25):
I love cake.
I love croissants.
I love anything sweet.
I've got a sweet tooth.
That is like music to my ears,girl.
Music to my ears.

Kerri (31:37):
See, that is the point of being on this planet is in that
enjoyment.
And the other stuff happens too.
So we help each other throughit, right?
Whether it's through animalcommunication, through healing,
all the vast varieties ofhealing work.
Through what we create.
Through being a nice person.
Through being true to ourselves.

(31:57):
Living, living for that absenceof conflict.
And sharing it with others.
Right?
And the more you help otherpeople.
The thinker recognize what thatfeels like it's, that's where it
takes on its own life and you,you start to watch your higher
consciousness form your liferight in front of you.

Ronnie (32:20):
Kerri absolutely beautiful.
Thank you.
As you were talking, so I'm justgoing to say this anyway,
because it's about sharing asyou were talking.
I'm aware that as you weretalking, there was these little
thin threads coming in, but alsogoing out and I'm describing
them as little silver threads,but it's almost like neuron

(32:42):
transmitter signal from yourbrain, the little sparks, little
pathways, and it was all flowingand it was beautiful and what I
was feeling was from that.
Going out to the connections.
As you were talking, the energywas shared through that to

(33:03):
another energy.
Now that might sound a littlebit out there, but that's what I
saw and I felt to share thatright.
What we're going to do now islet's talk about your podcast.
Okay.
Composite conversation.
So you have a lots of amazingguests on there.
How did that start?

(33:23):
Oh, before we go there, before Iforget, I want to say a big
thank you to Holly.
She was the lovely lady thatconnected us.
She sent me an email saying,would I consider having Kerri
Lake?
On my podcast, it's like, Oh,crikey.
So I said, yes, of course.
Yes.
If she thinks it resonates withher.
So that's how we connected.

(33:44):
So thank you, Holly.
Who's watching now.
Thank you so much for thatintroduction.
And if anybody's got anyquestions, please pop the
questions up.
And if Kerri sees something thatshe wants to answer straight
away, she can do that.
So let's talk about yourpodcast.
Okay.
Thank you.
How did that start?
Where did you get the name?

Kerri (34:01):
Great story.
So it started in 2022 and wehave Robin and Warwick Schiller
to thank for bringing.
amazing people together throughtheir podcast and through the
first journey on podcast summitin San Antonio.
That event for the people thatwere there, they know that the

(34:23):
floor was waving.
We, we were in betweendimensions for that event, the
energy was so beautiful.
And afterward the community ofpresenters almost unanimously
expressed that they, they allwanted to stay in touch and
learning with and from oneanother.

(34:45):
There was such a theme at thatpodcast of being a student of
life.
And after the podcast, therejust, there was so much going on
and everybody connecting andthen wondering how, how is this
going to happen?
And Robin and Warwick had somuch on their plate And I

(35:07):
thought, well, everybody wantsto stay together.
I wonder how I can help withthat.
And another theme was even, youknow, at the end of each day,
the a lot of the peopleattending the podcast stayed at
the same hotel and there were alot of amazing conversations
happening at breakfast and therewere a lot of amazing

(35:28):
conversations happening atdinner after the programming of
the day.
And so.
Another facet came in as, youknow, it's really kind of true
that some of the bestconversations happen at the end
of the clinic day when, youknow, the clinicians are just
sitting around and chattingamongst themselves, creating the

(35:49):
next evolutionary steps of theirown work in with their peers.
So I'm like, wow, that soundslike a good idea.
How can we share those kinds ofconversations with the greater
community?
And.
Just, just throwing it outthere, like, those wonderings,

(36:11):
when, to me, I, I throw thewonderings out there and they
come right back, with thatfeeling, like you're talking
about, like, ah, there it is.
They, it all came back, and thecompass conversations literally
just dropped.
In call it that here's thepicture.

(36:32):
Ask Mark to create some music.
Cause Mark Rashid is an amazingguitarist.
And so ask Mark for some music,just the, the checklist of needs
presented right there, and Ijust, I just said, yes, I'll do
it and started putting it alltogether.
So it's, you know, to me, it'snot.

(36:53):
About having guests on thepodcast.
It's a collaboration.
There's a core group of peopleparticipating in the
conversations.
And that group is starting nowto expand, not just in the
equestrian community.
That that's definitely thefoundation of it, but we were

(37:13):
starting to have people that arenot at all in the equestrian
community, but what is common isbeing a perpetual student of
life, having the interest andthe inspiration and the capacity
to show up curious rather thanteachery.
And it recognizing that when weshare our curiosities, that's

(37:39):
some of the greatest educationbecause it leaves people free to
learn what's there for them tolearn rather than telling people
what they should be learning.
And to me, that's an, that's anevolution of education as a
whole that I want to be a partof.
So that, that's the short storyof how it all came into being.

Ronnie (38:02):
Without going into details I had a message for
somebody.
A few days ago and that was verymuch part of the message People
will be attracted to certainlight to certain people because
they Feel something from that itmakes them feel good they can

(38:23):
see there's something differentwithin them and When they
interact with that person Theylook at that as if I would like
to have that I would like to belike that so it's not about
being that person, but Somethingthat they emanate And the
message was very much you showthem how actually it's theirs

(38:46):
already, which is what you'vejust said So it's within them
not to search externally becausewhen we search externally for
validation for Somebody to loveus it's external, but it's
within.
So that essence that you justsaid that message, is the
essence of the message that camethrough for somebody.

(39:09):
And again, that had that mostbeautiful feel with it.
Very serene, just verybeautiful.
And it was such a nice place tobe.
I thought I'd just share thatbecause you mentioned that.
So your podcast is, is amazingand it's conversations.
It's conversations.

Kerri (39:26):
Organic conversations.
Yeah, we don't even know,there's no topic until we all
sit down together.
Like, what do we want to playwith?
And then we choose a startingpoint, I introduce it, and then
it's completely organic fromthere.

Ronnie (39:39):
And that's the best way.
So this is Holly that you know,if you had one message to
transmit to listeners.
that are new to intuitiveknowing and recognizing what is
compared to what our intellectwould say.
Do you want to read that again?
I'm terrible at reading offscreen.

Kerri (39:57):
Yeah, that's fine.
Helping, helping people new tointuitive awareness, recognize
what is compared to what ourintellect might suggest is
there.
I think that's where she's goingwith this.
The first thing that I would sayis Recognize where, first and
foremost, before trying to getit right, or be correct,

(40:21):
recognize first and foremostwhere you're already aware of
your intuitive ability.
Where is it already happeningfor you that You might just take
for granted, but you can startactually acknowledging.
And I'll give you an example.
There's a client here inCalifornia who would, she, you

(40:44):
know, picked up her love ofhorses later in life in her late
forties and.
has horses now, and she, she'llgo, I don't know.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I can't tell when the horse issoft.
I can't tell when the horse ishappy, and I can't feel
anything, right?
So I asked her, so what, whatkind of work do you do?
And she's done landscapearchitecture for, for her whole

(41:07):
career.
And I said, okay, so when youlook out at that hill and you
say, oh, there's something wrongwith those plants, there's, you
know, that one is in the wrongplace.
Do you, are you taking out asextant?
Are you taking out like, youknow, survey equipment to
measure with a ruler to knowthat this is in the right place

(41:30):
and that's in the wrong place?
She says, no, I just kind ofturned my head and, and I can
just feel it's just not right.
I'm like, exactly, that rightthere is is where your intuitive
capacity, your sense, your feelis already alive and well.
So when you notice it happening,tune into what that feels like

(41:52):
and just to know what it feelslike.
We don't have to solve aproblem.
We don't have to be correct.
We don't have to put it in aslide deck to give a
presentation.
We don't have to prove it toanybody.
That's all that that linearintellect.
Intuitive awareness just is theone that gives you information

(42:15):
that says and that When, when wetell our mind to recognize that
feeling, it gives validationaccording to the mind.
Oh, that's a thing?
Yes, that's a thing.
Feeling you have no words for.
Just let your mind go, Aha, Inoticed that.
Okay, well, I'm available formore of that.

(42:38):
And it can be that simple.
Especially for super thinkypeople, people who just, who
want the spreadsheet, who wantproof.
Watching your own experiencebecomes the proof you're looking
for.
We have to remember, linearintellect talks about being

(43:01):
correct.
Intuitive awareness is notinterested in correct.
Intuitive awareness isinterested in recognizing the
experience.
and then relaxing to see how itrelates.
The difference betweencorrectness and relating, but it
can all start with helping thethinker recognize where I am

(43:25):
already aware of my feels.
And I mean, we could go into thedifference of feeling and
emotion.
And this is why I've done theonline courses is to go into all
of that, but that's thesimplicity of it is recognize
where it's already functioningand then relax and be curious.
What else it might show you andthat's a it's a beautiful place

(43:47):
to start.

Ronnie (43:48):
Thank you That was a really good example about
gardening if you're looking at aplant or a tree you just do
something with it And you don'tthink why did I do that?
You just do it

Kerri (44:00):
We all have this ability, it might be atrophied in people,
they might not be familiar, butwe all have this ability to
like, go back and look at what,what had me, what was I feeling
that had me move the planterfrom here to there?
Like rewind to just before that,what, what was the feeling?
And maybe it was a thought,okay, what did that thought feel

(44:23):
like?
So it's just helping, I call itthe mayor of thinkytown.
Start to actually realize wherethe the information can be
found, where intuitiveinformation can be found.
And it is Through variousdimensions of feel.

Ronnie (44:43):
This should be taught in schools, but that leads me on to
your new venture that you'revery excited about.
So I'll let you explain whatit's called.
And what exactly it is.

Kerri (44:58):
Thank you.
Okay.
This is where I'm just going totake a breath and go slow.
So I don't launch into my ownnerd universe.

Ronnie (45:08):
You can be as nerdy as you like, Kerri oh gosh,

Kerri (45:10):
thanks.
So for a long time, people haveasked me, you know, are you
going to start a nonprofit?
Are you going to create thingsfor kids?
Or how can we help parents?
help their kids keep theirintuition alive.
And for a long time I've had avision of something that can do

(45:34):
that, but it just was clunky andnot happening.
But through this adventure withCompass the idea came back up
of, Why not do a nonprofit?
And I'm like, how do you make anonprofit out of a podcast?
I couldn't see it.
And so a dear friend of mine,Joelle Dunlap, who has the
Square Peg Foundation I wastelling her about it and I'm

(45:58):
like, yeah, people are sayingyou should do a nonprofit.
She's like, yeah, do it, go.
I'm like, oh, how am I supposedto do that?
She goes, just do it.
Write a mission statement, writea vision statement.
So.
With her encouragement, I'mlike, all right, well, so I went
to write a mission and visionaround the podcast and I just
couldn't make it happen.
You know, I'd sent her, I wouldsend her drafts and she's like,

(46:21):
no, try again.
So so I did, but what I had todo is go back before compass,
before generation of harmony,which is my personal business
and go, what, what is thethrough line, what is the thing
that's always been there?
And it has very, very dear to myheart, very related to my own

(46:43):
childhood is this curiosity ofhow, how can we help children
develop in a way where theydon't have to recover from
childhood, where they don't haveto recover their intuition
because they never lost it.
So with that came the intuitivelearning foundation, and we are

(47:09):
taking steps to create anofficial nonprofit called the
intuitive learning foundation.
That has the mission.
I can't repeat.
I don't have my elevator pitch,but the mission is through
programs and connections andempowering things to guide

(47:30):
people to remember theirintuitive capacity and recognize
how vital it is in every aspectof daily life.
The vision ultimately is just toinspire humanity to integrate,
to weave intuition andintellect, so that our

(47:51):
innovation is created in a waythat honors all of life on the
planet, and not just what humansthink they need for human
society.
Because when we reconnect withour intuitive side, all of a
sudden we can feel the rest oflife, and it might change how we
use the data that we, wediscover.
So So yeah, what we're going toput together are programs for

(48:17):
parents to find their own selfvalidation to rest in their
heart because their presence hasan enormous effect on their
kids.
And from that place, you know,more kids are already growing
up, knowing about yoga, knowingabout mindfulness, but how can

(48:39):
we help parents be in a positionwhere they can recognize
intuitive.
Inspiration and whereimagination is actually
communicating who the kid is.
How can we help adults recognizethat kind of uncontrollable
expression?

(49:00):
So that they don't inadvertentlysquash a child who's just trying
to say, I think this is me.
You know, how, how do we beavailable for that?
You know, Montessori is alreadyabout that.
And Waldorf is all about that,but there's just this vision of
how can we trickle a differentperspective, a different way to

(49:21):
relate to familiar things into.
something more mainstream.
So the idea with this is to, tohave a very simple structure,
but lots and lots ofcollaboration with people who
have different ways of teaching,of pointing in the same
direction, you know, becausethere's so many people and

(49:42):
teachers pointing in the samedirection right now in this
community, in the equestrianworld.
And the relationship with horsesis completely leading the way
back to the heart.
and helping people recognize,Oh, what I feel is actually
communication.
And that might be the purestcommunication.

(50:04):
So how do I become aware ofthat?
And the horses obviously show upand go, Hi, there you are.
Let us help you.
And you know, building from thatfoundation, how, how simple can
we offer really powerful, kind,benevolent awareness.

(50:26):
So that in at least for in mycase, we can offer people tools
so that for 10 seconds at atime, they can give their mind a
break, take their mind off thehook for having to do it all
themselves and everything thatcreates anxiety, take a 10
second break and watch your bodychange.
And they notice that change allof a sudden you that's a way to

(50:50):
welcome in all of this otherintuitive information.
rather than grinding on life inthat familiar way of bigger,
better, faster, more gotta getit done.
It's all on me.
If I don't do it, the universecrumbles.
So all of that to say, Theintuitive learning foundation
really wants to be kind of abeacon, kind of that diamond

(51:16):
that you and I were talkingabout before we started
recording that whatever lightcomes toward it, it refracts in
a way that somebody else can seethemselves and know a, you're
not alone.
B you are, you have this innatetechnology.
Intuition is factory installed.

(51:37):
It's just, how can, how can we.
start to weave in side by sidewith our conventional education,
a very simple and accessibleintuitive education.
So it's not one or the other.
It's a guidance for how they aremeant to compliment one another,

(51:59):
recognizing that intellect usesinformation this way.
Intuition uses information thisway.
And together they give us anincredibly full picture of who
we are and how we create on theplanet.
There's a big irony in my lifewhere this idea of home, you
know, home was never a house forme.

(52:20):
It wasn't a family for me.
It was always the connectionthat I felt with animals is, is
who I am.
when I felt animals and so Istarted calling home is the
place of no words and yet howironic it is how many words I
use in a day to describe theplace of no words.

Ronnie (52:41):
But that's what we have.
Hence this, it's words.
Yeah.
But each word has a vibration,has a frequency, and it's what
that carries.
Yeah, sorry, I'm just, I'mlistening, but I can't translate
that, so harmony.
Thank you.

(53:02):
Harmony.
If I said to you, I'm aware,this might sound a bit, but it
doesn't I'm going to say it.
it's almost like we're, we'renot in a goldfish bowl and we're
being watched because that's nothow it is, but it's the sense of
pride, excitement.

(53:23):
interest from, I was going tosay the external, but it's not
because it's what flows through.
It's like when I describedearlier, I talked to my
intuition, the human, Isometimes interact with the two
different people.
I'm not sure I'm explaining thiscorrectly.
Let's just see where this isgoing.

(53:45):
Okay.
Right.
Okay.
Like the diamond, like thediamond.
Thank you.
Like the diamond there are manysides there are many views each
one is precious.
Each one reflects back what yousee, what you need at the time.
There may be distorted views butwithin that view is still

(54:08):
beauty, knowledge, informationthat flows.
There is no right, there is nowrong.
There is just what you feel.
Fear is information.
Anxiety is information.
Once you understand that this isnot who you are, that this is

(54:31):
just information for you toprocess, for you to understand,
you can move through that.
You can allow.
There is much beauty in thisworld but it's not always seen,
because it's not to be seen,it's to be felt, it's to be

(54:54):
understood, it's to be aware.
Each one is precious, howeversmall, however large, each one
contributes to the collective,to the whole.

(55:14):
If you could see how amazing youare, how beautiful you are, how
precious you are, right whereyou are, at this moment, in
time, There are no changes thatare needed just for you to
connect and allow your trueessence to flow.

(55:37):
Okay, I'm just seeing ifanything else is okay, yeah, I
find it lovely because it's likewhen you go to the cinema and
there's a movie and you'rewatching it, I feel like we're
in the movie and we're beingwatched, but it's not It's hard
to explain.

(55:58):
Or maybe it isn't.

Kerri (56:00):
I think you're doing a beautiful job explaining it.
It feels very true and I knowthe sense that you're speaking
of.

Ronnie (56:08):
Thank you.
Right.
Okay, so with your new venture,where are you now and what do
you need?
Okay, I'm being guided to askwhat do you need because this is
a platform that can help you inyour next step.
process in your next steps.

Kerri (56:30):
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you everyone for thatopening.
Where we are now is raisingfunds to file the paperwork, to
put the technology in place, toput all of the administrative
pieces in place so that this hasa solid foundation.

(56:53):
We have.
And amazing web designer likeblows my mind who showed up to
volunteer for that position orfor that contribution, we have a
board, an amazing board ofdirectors.
We have so much in place,including a multinational team

(57:18):
of volunteers from India,Croatia, Hungary, Switzerland,
UK Australia, United States,working together just because
they're inspired by all of this.
And people who come from allwalks of life, not necessarily
equine related or animal relatedpeople who have, who have

(57:41):
experience working inconventional education, but who
can feel the, the value offeringa really simple approach to
reconnect with, factoryinstalled intuition and make it
relevant in everyday life.

(58:02):
So we have a, an abundantbeginning and what we need is
dollars to keep it, to keepdoing the conventional part of
it.
You know, it does take dollarsand then collaborators.

(58:23):
We want to connect with peoplewho have that, that purity of
service in their heart.
and ha understand and are reallydrawn to collaborating for the
good of the whole.
Like, as we come together, notin competition, but in

(58:46):
collaboration, we can reach somany more people because there's
nothing, like, again, we're nottelling anybody what to learn.
We're offering, hey, this is anoption, and people will pick it
up when it touches their heart.
So over the next two months, iswhen we are planning on filing

(59:09):
all the paperwork, gettingeverything done, the moment the
paperwork is filed.
So, if I'm going to put a numberout, we need, 500 would be
amazing right now, because thatwould kick everything off.
And then, once we have that inplace I mentioned Joelle and the
Square Peg Foundation.
They are supporting us so that,that the donations are tax
deductible, like as soon aspossible.

(59:32):
And from there we just get tocreate and listen and create and
listen and create and listen andcreate.
So I think if, if anything, youknow, if anybody watching this
wants to go to our, we have atemporary webpage right now,
that's compassconversations.
com.

(59:52):
slash I L F dash campaign.
You can read the missionstatement, the vision statement,
and and if you can subscribejust to be on the mailing list
and, you know, be on the journeywith us, donate if you want to
and just see what we're up to.
I think the more people justinclude themselves in that

(01:00:15):
conversation, it's just going tobreathe so much life into it.
Because this whole thing has, ithas a life of its own already.
Like it might look like Carrie'sproject, but Carrie is a servant
to whatever this project is andthe people who show up, you
know?

Ronnie (01:00:31):
It's international, isn't it?
It's not just for the USA, it'sinternational.
Anybody that contributes it'sgoing to benefit on a global.
Yeah.

Kerri (01:00:40):
I don't know how it couldn't be.
I mean, there are people wakingup everywhere.
It just, really, how many wayscan we just say, yes, you are
that brilliant, what you justbrought through?
How many ways can we just say,you know, what Ronnie just said?
Yes, that, that.

(01:01:00):
Like, to me, that's what it is.
How many ways can we say yes towho you are?
Knowing that once you'reacknowledged, your creator
essence is going to startunfolding.
And the more you feel thatabsence of conflict with
yourself, that's actually wherecreation comes from.

(01:01:20):
That's what tells the outsideworld how to organize itself to
compliment you, to delight you,to surprise you, right?
To hold you in the most gentlegrace, especially when things
are intense.
And the more often we say yes toeach other on that level, the

(01:01:41):
more evident it becomes to eachof us in our own journey.
To where intensity andgentleness, same thing, let's
go, let's just go, keep going,keep going, keep going.
So yes, definitely, like how,how can we be of service is
really what it comes down to.
How, how many ways can we helppeople recognize how it feels to

(01:02:07):
be themselves?
And if even for 10 seconds at atime, then you get hijacked, and
then you go 10 seconds at a timeagain, and then you get
hijacked, whatever.
You take the 10 secondses, andthey build on each other, not
like 1 plus 1 is 2, it's, it,they build on each other
exponentially, like 1 plus 1 is11.
But you feel it you know itbecause you feel it and that's

(01:02:30):
where self validation comes fromso You know It's it's helping
people recognize that feel feeland emotion are two different
words for a reason There aredifferent things and when we
have a new relationship withfeel we become available to that
Information that you weredescribing that you were just

(01:02:53):
bringing through Right?
Whether it's fear.
Good.
What's going on?
Whether it's despair.
Excellent.
What's going on?
And this is, the whole planet,everyone on the planet is on a
journey right now to wake up tothis.
To wake up to a different way torelate to life as we know it.

(01:03:14):
Life is going to keep happening.
It's going to keep being what itis.
There will be good actors andbad actors.
But what matters is how werelate to it.
End.
More and more we can supporteach other to relate as the love
that we are.
Knowing sometimes that judgmentis going to come in like a
strong wind.
Okay, how do I want to relate tothat?

(01:03:37):
Do I want to give myself away ordo I want to just see it and go,
Ooh, that's strong.
That judgment has a lot of badbody odor.
Okay, so I'm gonna go over here,have a croissant, connect with
my friends.
And find a different perspectivethat lets me relate to it
without getting sucked in.

(01:03:57):
And the, the only way to do itis to do it.
The only one who can do it ismyself.
And so one of the, one of, wehave three silos or three
aspects to the intuitivelearning foundation.
One is change one heart, changethe world.
And heart is my own.

(01:04:20):
The second is animalconsciousness.
And speaks to The space withinwhich we all connect regardless
of species that is natural forus.
I call it being Unspeciatedwhere we are we are all common.
That's where we can meet andcommunicate and the third is
young creators and That's verymuch about the overarching

(01:04:44):
journey that can serve peoplesix and seven generations down
the line so they never have toRecover from having their
intuitive ability squashed Iwant to go back one second with
animal consciousness.
I'm not sure if you're aware ofthe movement of using A.
I.
to craft two way communicationwith animals.

(01:05:08):
Are you aware of that?
There are organizations well indevelopment using decades of
sound research, of audioresearch audio recordings and
giving the data to A.
I.
to understand.
A version called, that they'recalling language, the language

(01:05:32):
of sperm whales, of monkeys, ofbats, of different birds
different species.
But within that, there's, AIdoesn't have a way to address
feel.
AI doesn't have a way to relateto presence, to what is non

(01:05:57):
verbal, what is not even bodylanguage, to simply presence.
and the expression of here's howit feels to be me.
And so one of the things I'mhoping the intuitive learning
foundation can contribute is aneducation that parallels
artificial intelligence approachto communication that says,

(01:06:20):
while we're working on thatexternalized technology, let's
also bring awareness to ourinnate technology because it
might change how we relate tothe data we gather.
If we're aware of the part ofourselves.
That is already connected andlistening to all of life.
So that's, that's my, it's a,that's a passion of mine is not

(01:06:45):
to say AI is good or bad orright or wrong or should or
shouldn't be happening.
But to bring in this other partof the conversation that says
when humans are aware of theirinnate technology, that might
have an effect on how we createexternalized technology.
So Anyway, that's the nerd partwhere, where, yeah, I'm just

(01:07:06):
going to breathe.

Ronnie (01:07:09):
You relax, Kerri, you relax.
I'm just going to see if anybodywants to ask any questions cause
there's quite a few viewers.
Thank you so much to everybodythat's turned up.
I'm so, so grateful and I cansee, as far as I know, that
we're still on Facebook, sothat's good.
And YouTube.
If anybody's got any questionsif you want to just pop them
down now, because we're comingup to an hour and fifteen, and I

(01:07:32):
don't want to take too much ofKerri's time, but we'll keep
talking for a little whilelonger.
I'm just going to pop this onthat Paige actually popped on
earlier.
So Paige Lockton says, Thank youfor this perspective on being a
collective of learners ratherthan the experts.
It makes it all seem moreaccessible to me from there.

(01:07:53):
You are very, very welcome.
Thank you, Paige.
Thank you very much.
So Timothy, I'll let you readthat one, Kerri

Kerri (01:08:02):
You differentiated feeling from emotion is feel a
way of expressing an idea ofspiritual awareness.
You have also referred to asyour senses.
Yes, yes, yes.
That's a nice way to talk aboutit.
It can, there's, there'sdifferent ways to articulate it
in the way that I see it.
So emotion is, an energy inmotion.

(01:08:31):
There's something moving, and itmaybe pushes water out my face.
Maybe it makes me breathedifferently.
Maybe it makes my body gettense, or drop on the floor, or
jump, jump around.
Emotion is the energy thatprompts, the energy in motion

(01:08:52):
that prompts that movement.
Feel and senses are what tellyou energy is moving.
It's feel and senses are relatedto the physicality and the
mechanism by which our bodysays, hey, something's
happening.
The words emotion and feelingsget interchanged because our

(01:09:16):
body produces emotions.
sensations or feelings to tellus there is sadness in the room,
there is anger moving through,there's frustration, resentment,
pride.
Before those became words, therewas a feeling.

(01:09:37):
And look at a scenario where youknow, a friend walks up to you
and you say, Hey, how are youdoing?
And they say, Oh, I'm fine.
I'm great, but everything inyour body is like sadness, and
if you let your face do what youfeel it's something different
than what, what their facade istelling you.

(01:10:00):
Okay.
Emotion is present.
It might be mine.
It might be theirs, but it is mysenses and my feel that lets me
become aware of the emotion thatis present.
So when we start.
articulating these things in adifferent way, it starts to

(01:10:22):
reveal that I have a mind.
I am not a mind, but I have amind.
I have a body.
Body is an expression of me.
So is the mind.
It's an expression of myessence, but who I am is not the
body.
The body is an expression of whoI am is the one capable of

(01:10:44):
watching all of this happen.
So when I give my mind the jobof watching the communication
center, which is the body, thenthe body will say, well, here's
a feel.
Oh, the senses say, ding, ding,ding, something is moving.

(01:11:04):
I'm going to give you a feelingso that you have something to
relate to that says the stove ishot.
Don't touch it.
For example, or that says, Thereis a communication presenting if
you'd like to make space for it,we will articulate it for you.

(01:11:27):
And that's that, that press,sometimes that pressure that
tells us there's a communicate.
Oh, there it is.
Okay.
I'm, I'm welcoming it.
Thank you.
And this is where each of ourunique capacity with our
intuition, we discover forourselves how it feels to

(01:11:49):
recognize it is.
Oh, there's a communication.
I'm going to make some space andlet that be articulated through
my imagination center so that Ihave something to relate to.
Our imagination is key torelating intuitively.

(01:12:11):
So it's kind of ironic, but whenpeople say, I'm not sure if it's
my imagination or if it's real,it's both.
The real question would be.
Is it my, is it the ego takingcharge of the imagination or is
it my essence and my heartcoming through my imagination?

(01:12:32):
They feel very different.
It's a very different feeling.
It's like, you know, Ronnie, ifwe said, okay, go ahead and make
up that communication you justreceived, go, you can't do it.
It's not a thing.
Right.
And so, you know, when, whenthat doubt comes, I love what

(01:12:54):
Jim Masterson says, doubt thedoubt.
When the doubt comes, make itprove itself.
Like, all right, go ahead.
If I'm making this up, go aheadand make it up again.
I'm watching go, go ahead.
No, really go ahead.
It's okay.
It can't happen because that'snot how it works.
So that's why I say, startputting your awareness on where

(01:13:15):
you already feel your intuition,your, your senses providing you
data and information from yourwholeness, because it's going to
feel different than when yourmind says, Oh my God.
I'm gonna die because I didn'tmake my bed this morning and my
boss is gonna find out and I'mgonna get fired and then I'm
gonna, you know, whatever the,the cascade of thoughts is.

(01:13:38):
But that's when you start givingthe mind a different way to
relate to these familiar wordsit can open some space.
It can help clarify a lot ofstuff and open some space to
recognize That place in me thatis absent of conflict, that just
is self, I am, that I am,beingness, that everybody's

(01:14:01):
pointing to through thousands ofyears of spiritual teaching.

Ronnie (01:14:08):
So, I think that's answered your question, Timothy.
I hope so.
Yeah, oh definitely, definitelyanswered your question.
He's also mentioned, so I'm justgoing to pop this up.
So this is for the benefit ofthe audio, cause this will be
made into an audio afterwards.
So that's why I'm reading itout.
AI doesn't make me nervousbecause AI, hang on the rest of
it.
The machine cannot practice,surrender or learn more

(01:14:31):
humility.
And that's how I feel.
I think.
If you're the fear is becauseyou're not understanding, or
you're not listening to that,you're listening to the
external, or what it could be,and we, we magnify it, we make
it bigger than it is, so if youcome from a neutral as you can
place, without the emotionalattachment it can go that way or

(01:14:54):
that way, it can be an amazingthing, but the input is from us,
So if we stay neutral and input,it will be different from
somebody that's in a fear basedinput.
We need this because we need toprotect ourselves.
We need to do this.
That has a different feel withit.
So that's, that's my view onthat, that one.

Kerri (01:15:16):
Totally.
Yes.

Ronnie (01:15:17):
Yeah.
So thank you for your questionyes.
Thank you very, very much.
Right.
Kerri is there anything elseyou'd like to add before we wrap
this up?
So I'm doing this podcast in mydear friend's house and they're
doing me a curry tonight and Ican smell it and I can hear pots
going so I'm feeling hungry.
So that's my cue.

(01:15:37):
Very good.
I'm wrapping this up because mystomach is rumbling.
And curry sounds amazing.
He's a good cook.
Giles is an amazing cook.

Kerri (01:15:50):
I guess, really, thank you.
Thank you for the opportunity toshare.
Thank you for cultivating acommunity where this kind of
conversation can happen.
And I can just nerd out in thisway.
It really means a lot.
The one other thing I would liketo share with people is coming

(01:16:11):
up, starting in October, we'reoffering a year long program
called Activating andFacilitating FEEL.
And it's being offered with a,it's a special way to
participate called PricelessPricing.
There's a 50 registration fee,but each month it's like a pay

(01:16:32):
what you can, because we wantedto make this information
available to people around theworld, regardless of, you know,
currency exchange, regardless offinancial situation.
And I have some amazing friendswho came up with this model
called priceless pricing thatincludes part of the discussion

(01:16:55):
is, is really visiting andhighlighting the priceless
nature of the work we're doingtogether.
You can't put money on it.
You can't quantify the value.
With dollars and everybody's intheir own unique situation.
So this program really ispriceless.
It will be it's, it's gearedtoward teachers, trainers,

(01:17:18):
instructors, and mentors to givepeople a toolkit for helping
others have a new relationshipand be empowered through their
intuitive ability and theircapacity to feel, because I
think that can make the biggestripple out into the world.
But anybody is welcome whoseheart feels drawn to it.

(01:17:38):
And if you go to the courses.
carylake.
com page, you can read about itand read about priceless pricing
that you have to be registeredat the beginning of the year and
every month we just visit howvaluable this is at this point
for you.
And if you drop off, you dropoff.
But for those that want to keepgoing, it's, it's built to be a

(01:17:59):
transformational time.
That's everything that we'vebeen talking about, helping
people have a new relationshipwith who they truly are and then
discover how they can bestexpress themselves through
whatever they're doing in theworld.
That's, and that's really whatmy heart is about is how can I
take whatever this is and helpyou be more of you?

(01:18:20):
So anyway, I, I hope people willcheck that out too, cause I
think it's going to be reallyamazing.

Ronnie (01:18:26):
Okay.
So what I'll do is I have someof your links anyway, but what
I'll do is add any more linksthat you want to share and put
them at the end of the podcast.
Once this live is ended, it willstill be available on YouTube
permanently.
And then once I've edited it,it'll go out as an audio and
then People can listen to it andI can take out the bits that are

(01:18:47):
not relevant but it's allrelevant.
She says it's all relevant.

Kerri (01:18:52):
Yes.
Wow.
What would you take out?
I don't even know.
Cause you were brilliant and somuch good stuff.

Ronnie (01:19:00):
Thank you to holly for introducing us and thank you so
much for Interacting andconnecting and for coming on the
podcast.
It's been a been a pleasure andI find when i'm editing in, I'm
listening, but I'm alsowatching.
So I'm listening when I'mediting, I listen with a
different ear and I hear lotsmore and also I listen to it

(01:19:21):
when I've done that because Iget from that too which is
lovely.
You are welcome back anytime.
It's an open invitation.

Kerri (01:19:29):
Thank you.

Ronnie (01:19:31):
If people have questions, you can contact Kerri
yourself if there's somethingthat you want to ask her or
myself, please feel free.
If there's something you don'tunderstand, again, reach out.
This might not be for everybodybut it's about stepping into
your own knowing.
And even if you think, I've noidea what the hell I'm talking

(01:19:51):
about.
If it's flowing through you,it's maybe needed to come out
and see if you're happy just tosay what feels.
It doesn't have to make sense.
As long as you don't offendanybody, and you're doing this
from the heart, and you're nottrying to tell somebody what to
do, as Kerri said earlier,you're just allowing yourself to

(01:20:15):
express yourself.
And that's what the start is.
You have to play with it, it'slike a muscle.
If you don't use it, you can'texperience that you can't think,
Oh, Oh, I'm not sure about that.
Oh, I get that.
That's what that was last time.
Okay.
I'm learning.
So you have to play with it.
It's a muscle.
You have to develop it.

(01:20:36):
And if you're with people thatdon't mind, whether you talk
nonsense or not, that's fine.
Cause you can practice.
And I'll be quiet now.

Kerri (01:20:47):
No, you, now you talk for an hour and a half.

Ronnie (01:20:49):
No, no, no.
I, I can smell food.
I know where my mind's going andit's not flowing that way.
It's flowing that way now.
Once again, thank you so much.
Would you like to say partingfew words?
I'll pop you out.
And if you don't mind justhanging on for a second before
you go.

Kerri (01:21:06):
Oh yes.
Just I'm honored for theopportunity to share.
And There's words that I don'thave words for it yet.
It still blows me away.
The opportunities that I get todo exactly what you just said,
talk nonsense, and maybesometimes somebody understands
it.
But I do it for all thosereasons because I can't not do
it because it's here to beexpressed and I've learned that

(01:21:30):
when something comes and it's soobvious and I don't hear anybody
else talking about it, then it'smine to express and like you
said, the more you play with itand you, you hear yourself
expressing what feels true toyou, fear becomes irrelevant
because the sense of wholeness.

(01:21:50):
Really takes over.
And that's why we're here is tolive in that wholeness.
So thank you, Ronnie, for all ofyour work and expression in the
world.

Ronnie (01:21:58):
You're very, very welcome and thank you.
Wow.
What an amazing lady.
That has been a real pleasure.
And it's funny, I haven't done apodcast for a few months, so I
was a little bit nervous.
I'm fine once I get on.
It's just the beginning bit.
Thank you to everybody that'sjoined us.
That means the world to myselfand my guests.
And it's about sharing.

(01:22:19):
So it's not about telling youwhat to do and this is right and
this is wrong.
It's about sharing experiencesand we don't all have to agree
with each other.
Find out what is your truth andwhat's your knowledge and be
kind to yourself.
As well as being kind to others,be kind to yourself first and be
patient with yourself.
It's not about having rainbowsand you know wings on all the

(01:22:43):
time.
We're experiencing life.
You can get cross, you can getangry, you can get frustrated.
Just recognize that and be kindto yourself and allow.
whatever needs to come through.
So on that note, thank you somuch.
I'm really excited to get thisout for others to listen to.
Any questions again, just get intouch.

(01:23:05):
You know how it works.
Take care, have a wonderful weekI'm going to go and have a curry
now.
Take care and bye for now.

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