September 27, 2023 • 36 mins
Sharing Messages with Others - Interview with Ronnie King (Host: Ginny Jablonski)
I recently had the pleasure, of being asked to come back and do another podcast, as a guest with the lovely Ginny Jablonski from "Interspecies Evolution"
On this occasion, we talked about the messages that both Ginny and I receive for clients or people we may or may not know personally.
It is a big part of my work and something that people may not be aware of.
It's always an honour to pass on any messages that may come from an animal or some-other form of life but it always comes with the best intention and always with love.
So sit back, relax and I hope you enjoy this episode with myself (on the other side of the table) and my lovely host Ginny.
Introduction.
Join Ronnie and I as we discuss our experiences of sharing messages from animals and loved ones with others.
Ronnie King is an animal communicator, equine massage therapist and the host of Equine Voices, a lovely new podcast focusing on the equine industry.
Here's a link to two of my blogs on www.heartofthehorse.us talking about a similar situation with a client and a neighbours horse:
Our Words Matter (client testimonial):
https://heartofthehorse.us/blog/f/our-words-matter
How Our Intentions Effect Our Animals (blog):
https://heartofthehorse.us/blog/f/how-our-intentions-can-affect-our-animals
The introduction to this podcast is narrated by Rick Lamb PhD.
*The information provided in this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical, psychiatric or veterinary advice or treatment. Always seek licensed medical, psychiatric, or veterinary care.
Interspecies Evolution™ promotes holistic balance through an integrative treatment model defined by the National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health.
Please use discernment when contracting with energy "healers" who claim to heal humans or animals in any capacity. Interspecies Evolution™ promotes self-awareness and empowerment through education and direct experience on one's own journey of remembering.
http://www.interspeciesevolution.com
For more information about the Host, Ginny Jablonski, please refer to her website at http://www.heartofthehorse.us
Video version (alongside applicable podcasts) can be viewed on facebook and YouTube.
https://www.facebook.com/equinevoices.co.uk
https://www.youtube.com/@equinevoicesuk
https://www.instagram.com/equinevoices.uk
Contact Ronnie.
mailto:equinevoicesronnie@gmail.com
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Intro: (00:00):
Welcome to interspecies evolution.
The purpose of this podcast isto highlight human consciousness
and how our self awareness canlead to our honoring animals as
conscious beings as well.
We have gathered more than threedozen people with unique
experiences and education,inviting them to share their
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journeys and how theirrelationships with animals have
changed along the way.
If you are seeking inspirationon your own journey of
awakening.
or simply want to improve yourrelationships with animals.
We invite you to join us becauseit is time for interspecies
evolution.
Here's your host, JennyJablonski.
Ginny (00:45):
My guest today is Ronnie King.
Ronnie is returning for anotherexciting conversation about
animal communication and todaywe're focusing on messages,
giving messages to people,surprising messages, unexpected
messages, and sometimes,unfortunately, Unwanted or
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unaccepted messages, so welcomeback to the podcast.
Ronnie.
Thank
Ronnie (01:11):
you, Ginny.
Thank you so much for invitingme back to your amazing,
wonderful podcast, and I'mreally excited to talk about
messages because that'ssomething that I do.
quite regular, but it justhappens organically, and I
always believe that who I get amessage for, that on some level,
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on, on some level withthemselves, with their own, um,
consciousness, own being, isready to accept it, because I
don't think I've had a messagewhere it's not taken, as far as
I'm aware.
There might be some, um, wantingclarity, but most people have
been courteous in taking themessage.
Ginny (01:53):
Wonderful would you like to give an example?
And on this podcast, we talkabout our own experience, our
direct knowledge, our directknowing, and how did that evolve
for you?
And when was the first time youwere called to give a message to
someone?
Ronnie (02:10):
Okay.
I can't remember the first time,but I was probably in my car
because that's when, um, when Ihave the least distraction.
So I'm, I'm in my car drivingand.
It usually starts with theperson pops in or the horse pops
in and I take a note of it andthen sometimes if I'm busy,
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obviously driving, I getsomewhere and then I'm
distracted because I've got todo what I've got to do.
And then I normally get.
the feeling and the name again asecond time.
And I acknowledge that tomyself, okay, that's the second
time.
And then when I get it the thirdtime, it doesn't matter what I'm
doing.
If I'm driving, it doesn'tmatter where I am, I will stop
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what I'm doing and go, okay, I'mlistening.
And quite often it's a feel thatthe person's pops into my
thoughts and I'm sort of awareand I'm listening and feeling
what this is.
Now sometimes there's not alwayswords.
To start with, it's just meacknowledging that I'm ready.
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I'm opening the connection forthe communication.
Then when I say the first word,it's like, okay, I've got this
word, I've got this feeling.
I'll say the word out loud tomyself.
Quite often I'll record theminto the phone and I'll send
them directly to the person.
I'll record it.
And as I'm recording.
then the rest of the informationcomes, which is very similar to
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communication, how it is for me.
When I'm working with horses andpeople, but yeah, I get them
quite frequently and I don'tmind passing the message on
because I will always say.
If this doesn't resonate or itdoesn't mean anything, then I
apologize for disturbing you.
And you don't have to take this,you know, if you don't mind
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letting me know, if it does meansomething, all you have to do is
a thumbs up or just say, hi.
Yep.
That's, that's fine, I'll recordthe message I'll pass it on.
And then that's it.
That's it.
That's my bit done.
And then if I get feedback,which I do tend to get feedback,
even if it's just thank you.
Yes, I get that.
And sometimes I'd like a bitmore because the messages can be
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quite exciting.
I'm like, Oh, I wonder what thatmeans.
But that's just maybe the humanpart, but I find it fascinating.
So for me personally.
It's not a case of going up to astranger or, although sometimes
that's happened, and I'm shovinga message down their throat.
It's, it's not, it's alwaysfacilitated.
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I believe it's set up and theears are already open to hear
it, to receive it and because ofthat, I trust the messages that
come.
If I get a message, it's becauseI'm meant to.
There's no thinking is that.
Is that me talking or is thatsomebody else?
I trust it so much now and Iknow it and like I said three
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times for me, if it comes threetimes that's like pay attention
and sometimes it's just asnippet and sometimes it's, it
can be a bit of channeling thatcomes through and I pass that
on.
There usually is a connection,so quite often it's people I've
connected with and it's notalways physically.
It can be I've had messages forguests that I've interviewed and
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then later I've passed those on.
For people, clients that I'vemet, their horses come through,
but there's something elsethat's come through too and I
pass that on.
I don't always ask for but itcomes naturally and then the
person will say to me, Oh, thatmakes sense because of this.
So that's why the feedback isimportant.
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Uh, as far as that's concerned,I don't need to know the details
because it's personal but, uh,yeah, I, I love doing that and
it's a big part of what I do.
Yeah.
It's every week there'ssomething that comes through and
it might be just a little thing.
I pass it on.
It's either a text or a voicemessage.
I have had things where there'semotion in it, and you know
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there's emotion, and I'd like tothink that I'm very empathetic,
and I say it how I would liketo, to receive that and I don't
allow my head to interpret, or Itry not to anyway, if it's, if
it's normal stuff.
Um.
It was funny, I had one theother day for a lady and as the
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message came through, one of herguides came through and she
asked me to sit in the energy sothat I could feel her as she
spoke.
And that was really interestingbecause my head started to have
an idea of what I thought itmight be due to a previous
conversation but as I said itthough, as I was saying it,
because I say it to myself, it'slike I speak to myself and I'm
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saying it out loud.
As I'm recording it.
And then as I'm saying it, I'mthinking, no, I don't think it
is that, but, you know, when, ifyou're learning something about
yourself or you're, you're goingthrough a plan, a plan in your
head and you talk to yourselfand you, you sort of say this
plan one way and you're mullingit over because you think, you
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know, maybe I should do that andyou get this feel thinking no,
actually, no, I don't think it'sthat one.
That's what I need to do today.
And it's similar to that whenthe communication comes.
So it was quite funny that shesaid, sit in my energy and I
smiled because I knew why shesaid, sit in my energy because
she wanted her essence to comethrough and not to get
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distracted by what my headthought it might be.
Um, but I'm aware of that.
So, yeah, it's very interesting.
Very interesting.
Ginny (07:52):
I love that.
The very first time I was.
Introduced to people givingmessages to other people was
following my, let's see, secondnear death experience.
And I went to meetings heldmonthly in different parts of
the country.
Where other people who have hadnear death experiences would
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share their experiences, becausemany of us have quite
astonishing after effects, andit can be quite confusing for a
while.
In fact, it is said that it cantake people up to seven years to
fully integrate and understandthe experience, heal from it,
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and Really develop a true senseof why it happened and what
direction our life is taking usand I enjoyed going to these
meetings because they werefilled with people who had
either had a near deathexperience, known someone who
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had a near death experience orhad a loved one.
Or a friend or colleague passaway and they were searching for
answers and in that environment,people are seeking messages,
seeking validation that we areinfinite beings of light, that
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beings can existmultidimensionally, that life
goes on after.
The physical body passes awayand in that environment, I I
felt like I feel right now.
I just have chills everyone ifyou can see like every hair on
my arms is standing up.
I just feel the truth of it.
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It's it makes me feel so joyfuland so enthusiastic and so
passionate about theconversation.
If somebody were there in agroup, we would break out into
talking groups or experiencinggroups or sharing groups after a
meeting.
And if there was someone in thegroup who could give messages
and say, Oh, you know, yourgrandmother that passed away
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when you were little is standingright behind you and giving
these beautiful messages orsomeone maybe in their 40s who
had a young child pass away or30s or 40s.
People were so.
gracious and so thankful and soenlivened and heartfelt.
The experience was so heartfeltand so emotional that I realized
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firstly, it's true.
Secondly, it affects peopledeeply.
Thirdly, If you do this and youare this you are celebrated.
I didn't realize when you walkoutside of that room.
It's not always celebrated.
Not everybody is seeking thosetypes of answers.
Not everybody wants those typesof messages and for 101 or more
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reasons.
And so, you know, many yearspassed and from time to time I
would give people those types ofmessages and for the most part,
99 percent of the time, peoplewere thrilled to receive them.
I walked past, you know,somebody's plant and it said it
needed water or a bigger pot.
So, giving the message from apotted plant makes people happy
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or.
Walking in the yard, I wouldclearly see that a dog, you
know, had been buried there andoh, is this your dog?
Because he's here talking to meand really interesting things
like that.
And after many years, five, six,seven years, I started working
with people and.
Animals would come into thepeople sessions, right?
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The human sessions, and theywould start giving messages.
And for a while, I was a littleput off, like, what the heck?
What the heck is going on?
These animals are bothering, butI just realized how much.
It really affects most of us toreceive messages from people who
have crossed over.
But what you and I are, arereally discussing today is
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animals who are alive, peoplewho are alive receiving messages
either from their, theirbenevolent team of guides or
their animals or their higherself.
You know, that, that certainlyhappens a lot.
But I've had it happen where Iwas woken up in the middle of
the night by an animal to give amessage to, and it was a horse,
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to the owner of the horse.
And I knew that the owner of thehorse did not care for me much
at all.
The prior year I had spentthousands of dollars to fly
across the country to meetsomeone who worked in the equine
industry and it had beenrecommended that we would work
well together and our effortswould be very complimentary and
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maybe we could do a projecttogether and I got there and she
didn't resonate with me at all.
She was very much a mind, body,body.
person who worked with, youknow, the physical movements of
the horse, not necessarily, uh,the spiritual aspect of it.
But she had invited severalpeople to come and meet me.
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And it turned out that I flewcross country to meet these
other people.
So even though she wasn't quiteenamored with me to put it
Nicely.
Um, the people that I met therewere, became good friends and
are, continue to be good friendsand I've worked with them on
many, many occasions since then.
But it was Valentine's Day.
It was the morning, the earlymorning of Valentine's Day.
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And my husband and I had gone onvacation and I was laying in bed
and this person's horse came andfilled up the room and said,
excuse me, I need to talk to,you know, my, my, my owner, my
caretaker.
And I said, what?
I said, she doesn't like me.
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I'm certain she doesn't care forme.
I don't think she's going toaccept a message for me.
I think you need to go tosomebody else.
I tried to go back to sleep andthe horse came again.
Ginny, I really need you to givethis man, I really need to talk
to her.
I need you to call her andfacilitate a conversation
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between us.
And I said, Oh, I just don't, Ijust can't imagine there's any
way that this will work.
Are you sure?
And the horse was adamant, youknow, yes, please do this.
So I woke up in the morning andI thought long and hard about
it.
I asked my higher self, is thisthe right thing?
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I grounded, we're in Sedona onvacation.
So I went outside and I groundedand I talked to the rocks and
the trees and, and I talked tomy higher self and my team, my
horses at home.
And everybody said, this isimportant.
The horse is asking you to beits voice.
If the woman doesn't receive it,it's okay.
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It doesn't matter.
Don't project onto it.
So I had to do a little bit ofhealing for myself to make sure
that I wouldn't project ontothat, you know, but I did and I
texted her and it sounded as ifshe would receive the message
but it wasn't quite convenientat that time or what have you
and we texted back and forthover about a week and finally I
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got a sense maybe she isn'tgoing to be open to receiving
the message.
So to encourage her, I said, youknow, please let me know when
you're ready to receive themessage because it is a message
of love.
And her response was, thanks forthe message.
Uh, great.
Okay.
Bye.
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So she didn't want to have aconversation.
She wasn't open to thatconversation.
And a few short weeks later,that horse passed away.
And I have to tell you, Ronnie,that was a wonderful opportunity
for healing for me because Herewas a horse who really wanted to
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give a loving message to someoneand totally believed I was the
right person to give the messageand and apparently didn't go to
any other animal communicatorsbecause we have mutual friends
and I had to do a lot of healingaround whether or not people
receive the message.
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And if they do receive it, howthey perceive the message to not
bear that burden ofresponsibility.
And that really is a thing.
You know, so many of us arewaking up now, waking up to our
abilities.
Our abilities are coming online,telepathic, claircognizant,
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clairvoyant, and many people arestuck, and they're not receiving
these messages.
And for me, from my perspective,if anybody gave me a message, I
would be grateful.
I would be so grateful, butother people of course have the
free will choice not to receivea message and there are many
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reasons why people choose notto, many of which are their
unhealed wounds.
It's really not about, you know,they would say boundaries or, or
what have you, it's more manytimes I've seen it be, it's
about fear or a doubt or a lackof faith or a worry that if you
do wake up and believe in all ofthis, that once again will be
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persecuted from the many lifeexperience where we've shared
our gifts and been persecutedand we could talk about this, of
course, for hours and hours, butI think it's, Something that
people who are consideringbecoming animal communicators or
psychics or mediums ormessengers of any kind, whether
it be professionally or justcasually between friends and
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family, we have to know that thewounded parts of us can light up
when people don't want toreceive or perceive incorrectly
or misuse misinterpret themessage.
Does that, does that resonate atall with you?
Ronnie (18:11):
Yes, it does.
That was quite sad.
But as you were talking, I feltsadness for, for the lady that
didn't, for whatever reason, um,couldn't take the message or
didn't want to hear.
And the horse was giving thelove and wanting to say
something to her.
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And maybe she was afraid ofwhat...
The horse was going to say, ormaybe she didn't believe.
I, I don't feel that was thecase.
'cause that's what I'm pickingup now.
Um, there was a fear ofsomething within that, but
again, I can't prove that thisis just what I'm sensing.
Um, and all you can do is doyour best is to pass on if you
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can, the message, if it's a caseof they don't even want to hear,
then there's nothing you can doreally.
Um, I must say I haven't had,touch wood, I haven't had that
experience.
Many years ago, many years ago,I made a promise to myself, and
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I think that's what the universeis, is heard, that I would I
would hear any message, and if Iwas able to pass it on, I would,
regardless of whatever and, forme, I'm, I'm always open, it's
there you know, otherwise, Iwouldn't get those.
Um, it's not intruding to mebecause it's usually, as I said,
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when I'm driving and because Isay it's when I'm getting my
car, then the universe knows,okay, she's in the car.
Let's connect.
And most of the messages that Ipass on have been, because I
always say the time.
So if I record this, I will sayit's Tuesday, um, seven o'clock
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or 7 p.
m.
in the UK.
So that the person knows whattime I got the message, because
that's quite relevant.
Quite often they may have justbeen doing something or thinking
about something and the messagebecomes more relevant for that
reason and again, I always startwith Hi, I hope this makes sense
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if it doesn't that's absolutelyfine.
Don't worry about it you know,don't take it on That's that's
fine.
But if it does just let me knowand that'd be great and then
Sometimes I'll get the secondpart of the message and I can
get like little things whichmean nothing to me and I'll go,
does this make sense?
And then I'll, I'll text them.
But it does start withconnection of some kind.
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Now I made a promise to theuniverse that I would be able to
be open and to me, that is thecase.
So it's, it's not very oftenaunt Nellie or grandpa, you
know, grandma that's passed, butI do.
Get those that come through asthe main message comes through.
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I mean the one yesterday waslovely because the lady that
came through was obviously aguide.
She wasn't a relative, she mayhave been in another life, but
she was a guide.
And it was just lovely that shelet me sit in her energy and it
was very soft.
And I trust the feel.
So it's about trusting.
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And for me, it's, it's likesecond nature now.
Doesn't mean to say that it'salways correct for somebody
else, but uh, to the best of myability, what I'm receiving, I'm
giving out as clear as I can.
Now, two people can seesomething going on and they'll
describe it differently.
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So I only give what I receive,what I feel, and no more.
Um, Because when my head startsto have an opinion, then I can
tell because the chatter sort ofcomes in a little bit more.
But again, sometimes it'schatting, as I'm chatting, it's
almost like, right, okay, clearthat bit out, now we're coming
through again.
Okay, that makes sense.
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So it's like, You're listening,you're talking, and you're
channeling, you're, you'rehearing, you're feeling and I've
been lucky that the messageshave been, I'd say, quite nice
messages.
They've, they've been, theyhaven't been like the message
that you received and wasn'ttaken, unfortunately.
I, I have had, I don't know if Italked about this before in our
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previous podcast, I can'tremember, um, a hoarse cry for
help and it was really desperateand I, I knew who this was for,
but I had no idea, so I passedthis message on and the person
received it and literally gotback to me straight away saying
they've just opened an email andwhat you've described, I'm
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looking at the video right thisminute.
So I says, can you help?
Yes, probably.
Okay.
And that's all I need to know.
But my curiosity was, well, didhe help?
What happened?
But that's a human, that's thecuriosity I'm wanting to know.
Because although you're givingthem, it's the same as somebody
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receiving.
It's, well, how did she knowthat?
it's strange.
Do you find that, Ginny?
Ginny (23:15):
Yes.
I mean, I think it depends.
Different people have differentlevels of awareness or belief.
If you're asking about how thepeople receive, or are you
asking about how do you knowthat you're receiving the
certainty?
Because I'm 100 percent certain.
Oh, no, no, not that it's, it'slike you're watching a little
movie and you can hear yourselfand you know what such has
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happened, but it's like, I'moutside of that and I'm watching
thinking, wow, how did he dothat?
It's not quite like that, butit's, yeah, it always amazes me.
It always, it always amazes me.
Absolutely.
For me, it's different for everyanimal and every human being,
because as souls, we havedeveloped different levels of
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psychic abilities in manylifetimes.
And in this lifetime, dependingupon our, Conscious awareness,
our intellectual understandingof things.
We open certain, what I callevolutionary gateways in our
consciousness.
And we then open to receivinginformation differently.
Communicating with animals.
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I could have three dogs in thesame room and three dogs.
Communicate differently.
One pictures, one feelingemotion.
One a full on dissertation won'tstop talking for 15 minutes and
take a breath of air, right?
It's different plantscommunicate different.
And I was interviewing a doctorrecently, just a few podcasts
back and I said something abouta, one of the plants saying, you
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know, I'm gonna come home withyou, or something like that to
me.
And he made sort of an offhandis joke and he, this man is a
shaman and he sort ofoffhandedly say, oh, well how
did the.
Plant learn English, you know,well, my response to him was.
The plants and the animals don'thave to speak English.
Our souls communicate in auniversal language and we
translate it because we are in ahuman body, either speaking
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German or Russian or Catillionor what have you.
The plant does not necessarilyhave to speak English, but
plants, animals, and otherpeople can Perfectly repeat to
me what other people have saidin the house, word for word for
word, including swear words, sowe know that they can hear and
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because our thoughts createpictures, they can read the
pictures and certain souls arevery advanced and communicate
very extensively, very, um,complex ideas.
Very, very specifically.
Certainly it does amaze me everyday.
As much as I am 100 percentcertain 100 percent grounded.
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I've spent so much time andeffort and money talking to
people across the world, makingsure that I'm bringing forward,
you know, accurate informationand all of this.
There is not a shred of doubtwhatsoever.
And nevertheless, no matter howconfident we are, others Can
have a lack of confidence orcertainty, and I'll share one
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other with you before wecontinue.
A horse came to me maybe twoyears ago.
Very seriously.
I need help.
Please call my caretaker.
No, I had met this horse inperson owned by sort of a
colleague friend of mine and thehorse said I am in dire straits.
I have a lot of issues.
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I can't get my soul back in mybody.
I've got a lot of trauma in mynervous system.
I don't belong here.
There's something wrong.
No, I was very friendly withthis person and I contacted her
the next day and we spoke andbye.
She said, well, what can, youknow, what can I do to help?
And I said, well, there arethese few things, but he has a
list.
He really wants to talk aboutthis.
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And, and she basically said, youknow, thank you very much.
And so the horse kept coming tome and I said, I'm sorry, I'm
unable to help you.
And he said, I will find you.
I will find you.
And I said, well, you're goingto have to find me in a very
ethical way because I can't doit like this.
I'm unable to continue thisconversation.
Well, less than a year later.
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Another friend, mutual friend,contacted me and said she had a
new horse that was asking tocommunicate with me.
And I said, sure, of course.
And we got on the phone and thehorse came forward and I said,
oh my gosh, it's this samehorse.
Well, thank goodness that personcould hear.
And the horse told me everythingthat was wrong.
The person paid for a sessionwith me.
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We figured it out and the horsewas totally allergic to living
in Arizona was in the wrongplace.
It needed to go back to anotherstate where it previously lived.
And sure enough, the universehad created the perfect opening
for it to return to its originalowner.
Gladly, happily under wonderfulcircumstances.
So sometimes the universe doesmove the chess pieces around on
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the board and the message isheard and we are able to help
and not as quickly as we wouldlike.
Sometimes, unfortunately it didtake a year and the horse did
suffer somewhat, uh, quite a bitactually.
And, and the woman that hadtaken over the care for the
horse said she couldn't believehow much was going on with the
horse that wasn't previouslyperceived.
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So anything can happen.
And I think no matter whathappens, we have to know that
we've been asked to give amessage for a reason and that we
are doing so ethically andresponsibly.
We're not doing it out of ego.
We're doing it out of love andcompassion and trying to be of
help.
But like you say.
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If it doesn't resonate, youknow, just let it pass on by.
No harm, no foul.
Ronnie (28:44):
Absolutely.
You can't force somebody.
And the same is for me you'vegot to be open and ready to, to
accept that.
I do find it comes in waves forme as you were talking, I was
giving a visual and they weresaying, explain it this way.
So if you can imagine.
a spaceship going through spaceand it is orbiting a planet and
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that's the, that's the personthat I'm connected to and
they're orbiting around thisplanet and then here am I and my
ship is coming into their orbittoo.
So we're both aligned and eachtime they're conscious.
Maybe talking to mine and that'show it's coming so basically
sometimes it's them talking tothem Selves but through me.
(29:26):
Okay, or giving them an inklingSo that's how it's coming and
then then they'll go out of myorbit and it's like that And
then maybe a few months later,we're back in sync again,
because it does come in waves.
I find people I'm giving messageto quite frequently, and then it
tails off naturally.
And then somebody else will comein or there's, you know, there's
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more than one at a time.
But then if you think about it,if everybody connected and you
stayed connected the whole timeand you were passing message on
to everybody you connected with,you'd have no time to live.
For me, It naturally has acycle, and when it's finished,
I'm almost, oh, okay, thatcycle's done, and maybe the
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person has Vibration haschanged, so they don't need that
anymore.
They're able to connect, orsomebody else is to take over,
because it's relays.
Um, I won't get a message fromsomebody that I am not able to
pass that on, even if it's likethird, fourth, fifth party.
There has to be a link.
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There has to be.
Otherwise, there's no point forme.
Um, that might be different foryou, Ginny, but for me
personally, there's thesepathways, and that's how it
works.
Ginny (30:40):
Beautiful.
Well, thank you so much forbeing willing to have this
conversation.
I think that it's very helpful.
I know that it's quite helpful,in fact, for people who are
going through these types ofgrowing pains and learning how
to navigate these new abilitiesthat we're all getting and that
we're opening up to.
And not everybody is teachingethics when they're teaching
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animal communication.
Not everybody is teachingpsychic awareness when they're
teaching healing modalities.
And You know, I am certain onethat promotes that every single
week.
How can we be more self aware,more self responsible,
energetically aware, manage ourown energy, standing in our
truth, on our own healingjourney, doing the best we can
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every day.
That, that's all.
Everybody is already doing thebest they can every day.
And in navigating this,Conversation.
This is where we begin to refinewhat self awareness means,
refine our discernment, refineour relationship to, to other
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people.
And as you said, yourrelationship to the universe and
what you indicated you would bewilling to do and under what
circumstances, you know, withobviously very healthy
boundaries.
I appreciate you so much comingback and having this
conversation.
I'm, I'm certain many people aregoing to benefit from it.
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Would you like to share anythingin closing?
Ronnie (32:11):
Yes.
I'd just like to say that, um, Ididn't ask how it would come it.
That's how it's worked out.
But my understanding is that youalready know it's just a human
has to get on the same page.
It happens naturally.
That's my understanding.
And also it's not a showmanship.
It's from the heart and you knowwhen it's coming from the heart
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and it doesn't have to beperfect.
Your intention is honorable andWith that compassion and
understanding, and you don'thave to read minds, you don't
have to know somebody's lifehistory, that's not what it's
about.
I think sometimes people can be,because when I first started to
(32:55):
get the messages, I was awarethat, People hadn't asked me,
and I know healing in that, you,you don't give healing unless
they've asked for it.
But I felt, and, and my guidancewas, they have asked you on a
different level, okay.
And I feel that, I sense that,otherwise I wouldn't get the
message.
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It wouldn't come to me, itwouldn't come.
So I have to trust that andtrust the feel.
But not to be scared because ifyou're unsure, if somebody's
giving you a message and you'reunsure, just say, can I just
digest that?
I, I'm, I can feel that my guardis up.
I don't know why, but thatshould be telling me something
about myself.
(33:36):
So would you mind if I just sitwith this and see how I feel?
Anybody with a, with assaultwould say, absolutely no
problem.
If somebody's forcing you tolisten, that's a whole different
ballgame.
There's no force in this at all.
It's purely given from theheart.
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What you do with it is entirelyup to you.
It is not my responsibility andmy goal or aim to make sure that
you do something with this.
I've done my job passing it on.
I hope it's got to where it'sneeded because that's why it's
come to me, but responsibilityis not mine.
(34:18):
How you deal with this.
Um, but yeah, I can understandthere may be people that have
started doing messages and theyget excited and they're,
they're, uh, enthusiastic, butnot sort of pulling back and
just seeing and feeling theother person.
(34:39):
Um, yeah.
Does that make sense?
Ginny (34:41):
Yes, it does.
Very wise words.
Very wise words.
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Ginny (00:45):
My guest today is Ronnie King.
Ronnie is returning for anotherexciting conversation about
animal communication and todaywe're focusing on messages,
giving messages to people,surprising messages, unexpected
messages, and sometimes,unfortunately, Unwanted or
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unaccepted messages, so welcomeback to the podcast.
Ronnie.
Thank
Ronnie (01:11):
you, Ginny.
Thank you so much for invitingme back to your amazing,
wonderful podcast, and I'mreally excited to talk about
messages because that'ssomething that I do.
quite regular, but it justhappens organically, and I
always believe that who I get amessage for, that on some level,
(01:33):
on, on some level withthemselves, with their own, um,
consciousness, own being, isready to accept it, because I
don't think I've had a messagewhere it's not taken, as far as
I'm aware.
There might be some, um, wantingclarity, but most people have
been courteous in taking themessage.
Ginny (01:53):
Wonderful would you like to give an example?
And on this podcast, we talkabout our own experience, our
direct knowledge, our directknowing, and how did that evolve
for you?
And when was the first time youwere called to give a message to
someone?
Ronnie (02:10):
Okay.
I can't remember the first time,but I was probably in my car
because that's when, um, when Ihave the least distraction.
So I'm, I'm in my car drivingand.
It usually starts with theperson pops in or the horse pops
in and I take a note of it andthen sometimes if I'm busy,
(02:34):
obviously driving, I getsomewhere and then I'm
distracted because I've got todo what I've got to do.
And then I normally get.
the feeling and the name again asecond time.
And I acknowledge that tomyself, okay, that's the second
time.
And then when I get it the thirdtime, it doesn't matter what I'm
doing.
If I'm driving, it doesn'tmatter where I am, I will stop
(02:56):
what I'm doing and go, okay, I'mlistening.
And quite often it's a feel thatthe person's pops into my
thoughts and I'm sort of awareand I'm listening and feeling
what this is.
Now sometimes there's not alwayswords.
To start with, it's just meacknowledging that I'm ready.
(03:19):
I'm opening the connection forthe communication.
Then when I say the first word,it's like, okay, I've got this
word, I've got this feeling.
I'll say the word out loud tomyself.
Quite often I'll record theminto the phone and I'll send
them directly to the person.
I'll record it.
And as I'm recording.
then the rest of the informationcomes, which is very similar to
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communication, how it is for me.
When I'm working with horses andpeople, but yeah, I get them
quite frequently and I don'tmind passing the message on
because I will always say.
If this doesn't resonate or itdoesn't mean anything, then I
apologize for disturbing you.
And you don't have to take this,you know, if you don't mind
(04:01):
letting me know, if it does meansomething, all you have to do is
a thumbs up or just say, hi.
Yep.
That's, that's fine, I'll recordthe message I'll pass it on.
And then that's it.
That's it.
That's my bit done.
And then if I get feedback,which I do tend to get feedback,
even if it's just thank you.
Yes, I get that.
And sometimes I'd like a bitmore because the messages can be
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quite exciting.
I'm like, Oh, I wonder what thatmeans.
But that's just maybe the humanpart, but I find it fascinating.
So for me personally.
It's not a case of going up to astranger or, although sometimes
that's happened, and I'm shovinga message down their throat.
It's, it's not, it's alwaysfacilitated.
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I believe it's set up and theears are already open to hear
it, to receive it and because ofthat, I trust the messages that
come.
If I get a message, it's becauseI'm meant to.
There's no thinking is that.
Is that me talking or is thatsomebody else?
I trust it so much now and Iknow it and like I said three
(05:07):
times for me, if it comes threetimes that's like pay attention
and sometimes it's just asnippet and sometimes it's, it
can be a bit of channeling thatcomes through and I pass that
on.
There usually is a connection,so quite often it's people I've
connected with and it's notalways physically.
It can be I've had messages forguests that I've interviewed and
(05:29):
then later I've passed those on.
For people, clients that I'vemet, their horses come through,
but there's something elsethat's come through too and I
pass that on.
I don't always ask for but itcomes naturally and then the
person will say to me, Oh, thatmakes sense because of this.
So that's why the feedback isimportant.
(05:50):
Uh, as far as that's concerned,I don't need to know the details
because it's personal but, uh,yeah, I, I love doing that and
it's a big part of what I do.
Yeah.
It's every week there'ssomething that comes through and
it might be just a little thing.
I pass it on.
It's either a text or a voicemessage.
I have had things where there'semotion in it, and you know
(06:12):
there's emotion, and I'd like tothink that I'm very empathetic,
and I say it how I would liketo, to receive that and I don't
allow my head to interpret, or Itry not to anyway, if it's, if
it's normal stuff.
Um.
It was funny, I had one theother day for a lady and as the
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message came through, one of herguides came through and she
asked me to sit in the energy sothat I could feel her as she
spoke.
And that was really interestingbecause my head started to have
an idea of what I thought itmight be due to a previous
conversation but as I said itthough, as I was saying it,
because I say it to myself, it'slike I speak to myself and I'm
(06:59):
saying it out loud.
As I'm recording it.
And then as I'm saying it, I'mthinking, no, I don't think it
is that, but, you know, when, ifyou're learning something about
yourself or you're, you're goingthrough a plan, a plan in your
head and you talk to yourselfand you, you sort of say this
plan one way and you're mullingit over because you think, you
(07:21):
know, maybe I should do that andyou get this feel thinking no,
actually, no, I don't think it'sthat one.
That's what I need to do today.
And it's similar to that whenthe communication comes.
So it was quite funny that shesaid, sit in my energy and I
smiled because I knew why shesaid, sit in my energy because
she wanted her essence to comethrough and not to get
(07:41):
distracted by what my headthought it might be.
Um, but I'm aware of that.
So, yeah, it's very interesting.
Very interesting.
Ginny (07:52):
I love that.
The very first time I was.
Introduced to people givingmessages to other people was
following my, let's see, secondnear death experience.
And I went to meetings heldmonthly in different parts of
the country.
Where other people who have hadnear death experiences would
(08:15):
share their experiences, becausemany of us have quite
astonishing after effects, andit can be quite confusing for a
while.
In fact, it is said that it cantake people up to seven years to
fully integrate and understandthe experience, heal from it,
(08:36):
and Really develop a true senseof why it happened and what
direction our life is taking usand I enjoyed going to these
meetings because they werefilled with people who had
either had a near deathexperience, known someone who
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had a near death experience orhad a loved one.
Or a friend or colleague passaway and they were searching for
answers and in that environment,people are seeking messages,
seeking validation that we areinfinite beings of light, that
(09:18):
beings can existmultidimensionally, that life
goes on after.
The physical body passes awayand in that environment, I I
felt like I feel right now.
I just have chills everyone ifyou can see like every hair on
my arms is standing up.
I just feel the truth of it.
(09:40):
It's it makes me feel so joyfuland so enthusiastic and so
passionate about theconversation.
If somebody were there in agroup, we would break out into
talking groups or experiencinggroups or sharing groups after a
meeting.
And if there was someone in thegroup who could give messages
and say, Oh, you know, yourgrandmother that passed away
(10:02):
when you were little is standingright behind you and giving
these beautiful messages orsomeone maybe in their 40s who
had a young child pass away or30s or 40s.
People were so.
gracious and so thankful and soenlivened and heartfelt.
The experience was so heartfeltand so emotional that I realized
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firstly, it's true.
Secondly, it affects peopledeeply.
Thirdly, If you do this and youare this you are celebrated.
I didn't realize when you walkoutside of that room.
It's not always celebrated.
Not everybody is seeking thosetypes of answers.
Not everybody wants those typesof messages and for 101 or more
(10:53):
reasons.
And so, you know, many yearspassed and from time to time I
would give people those types ofmessages and for the most part,
99 percent of the time, peoplewere thrilled to receive them.
I walked past, you know,somebody's plant and it said it
needed water or a bigger pot.
So, giving the message from apotted plant makes people happy
(11:16):
or.
Walking in the yard, I wouldclearly see that a dog, you
know, had been buried there andoh, is this your dog?
Because he's here talking to meand really interesting things
like that.
And after many years, five, six,seven years, I started working
with people and.
Animals would come into thepeople sessions, right?
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The human sessions, and theywould start giving messages.
And for a while, I was a littleput off, like, what the heck?
What the heck is going on?
These animals are bothering, butI just realized how much.
It really affects most of us toreceive messages from people who
have crossed over.
But what you and I are, arereally discussing today is
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animals who are alive, peoplewho are alive receiving messages
either from their, theirbenevolent team of guides or
their animals or their higherself.
You know, that, that certainlyhappens a lot.
But I've had it happen where Iwas woken up in the middle of
the night by an animal to give amessage to, and it was a horse,
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to the owner of the horse.
And I knew that the owner of thehorse did not care for me much
at all.
The prior year I had spentthousands of dollars to fly
across the country to meetsomeone who worked in the equine
industry and it had beenrecommended that we would work
well together and our effortswould be very complimentary and
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maybe we could do a projecttogether and I got there and she
didn't resonate with me at all.
She was very much a mind, body,body.
person who worked with, youknow, the physical movements of
the horse, not necessarily, uh,the spiritual aspect of it.
But she had invited severalpeople to come and meet me.
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And it turned out that I flewcross country to meet these
other people.
So even though she wasn't quiteenamored with me to put it
Nicely.
Um, the people that I met therewere, became good friends and
are, continue to be good friendsand I've worked with them on
many, many occasions since then.
But it was Valentine's Day.
It was the morning, the earlymorning of Valentine's Day.
(13:33):
And my husband and I had gone onvacation and I was laying in bed
and this person's horse came andfilled up the room and said,
excuse me, I need to talk to,you know, my, my, my owner, my
caretaker.
And I said, what?
I said, she doesn't like me.
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I'm certain she doesn't care forme.
I don't think she's going toaccept a message for me.
I think you need to go tosomebody else.
I tried to go back to sleep andthe horse came again.
Ginny, I really need you to givethis man, I really need to talk
to her.
I need you to call her andfacilitate a conversation
(14:13):
between us.
And I said, Oh, I just don't, Ijust can't imagine there's any
way that this will work.
Are you sure?
And the horse was adamant, youknow, yes, please do this.
So I woke up in the morning andI thought long and hard about
it.
I asked my higher self, is thisthe right thing?
(14:34):
I grounded, we're in Sedona onvacation.
So I went outside and I groundedand I talked to the rocks and
the trees and, and I talked tomy higher self and my team, my
horses at home.
And everybody said, this isimportant.
The horse is asking you to beits voice.
If the woman doesn't receive it,it's okay.
(14:56):
It doesn't matter.
Don't project onto it.
So I had to do a little bit ofhealing for myself to make sure
that I wouldn't project ontothat, you know, but I did and I
texted her and it sounded as ifshe would receive the message
but it wasn't quite convenientat that time or what have you
and we texted back and forthover about a week and finally I
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got a sense maybe she isn'tgoing to be open to receiving
the message.
So to encourage her, I said, youknow, please let me know when
you're ready to receive themessage because it is a message
of love.
And her response was, thanks forthe message.
Uh, great.
Okay.
Bye.
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So she didn't want to have aconversation.
She wasn't open to thatconversation.
And a few short weeks later,that horse passed away.
And I have to tell you, Ronnie,that was a wonderful opportunity
for healing for me because Herewas a horse who really wanted to
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give a loving message to someoneand totally believed I was the
right person to give the messageand and apparently didn't go to
any other animal communicatorsbecause we have mutual friends
and I had to do a lot of healingaround whether or not people
receive the message.
(16:21):
And if they do receive it, howthey perceive the message to not
bear that burden ofresponsibility.
And that really is a thing.
You know, so many of us arewaking up now, waking up to our
abilities.
Our abilities are coming online,telepathic, claircognizant,
(16:42):
clairvoyant, and many people arestuck, and they're not receiving
these messages.
And for me, from my perspective,if anybody gave me a message, I
would be grateful.
I would be so grateful, butother people of course have the
free will choice not to receivea message and there are many
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reasons why people choose notto, many of which are their
unhealed wounds.
It's really not about, you know,they would say boundaries or, or
what have you, it's more manytimes I've seen it be, it's
about fear or a doubt or a lackof faith or a worry that if you
do wake up and believe in all ofthis, that once again will be
(17:27):
persecuted from the many lifeexperience where we've shared
our gifts and been persecutedand we could talk about this, of
course, for hours and hours, butI think it's, Something that
people who are consideringbecoming animal communicators or
psychics or mediums ormessengers of any kind, whether
it be professionally or justcasually between friends and
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family, we have to know that thewounded parts of us can light up
when people don't want toreceive or perceive incorrectly
or misuse misinterpret themessage.
Does that, does that resonate atall with you?
Ronnie (18:11):
Yes, it does.
That was quite sad.
But as you were talking, I feltsadness for, for the lady that
didn't, for whatever reason, um,couldn't take the message or
didn't want to hear.
And the horse was giving thelove and wanting to say
something to her.
(18:33):
And maybe she was afraid ofwhat...
The horse was going to say, ormaybe she didn't believe.
I, I don't feel that was thecase.
'cause that's what I'm pickingup now.
Um, there was a fear ofsomething within that, but
again, I can't prove that thisis just what I'm sensing.
Um, and all you can do is doyour best is to pass on if you
(18:56):
can, the message, if it's a caseof they don't even want to hear,
then there's nothing you can doreally.
Um, I must say I haven't had,touch wood, I haven't had that
experience.
Many years ago, many years ago,I made a promise to myself, and
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I think that's what the universeis, is heard, that I would I
would hear any message, and if Iwas able to pass it on, I would,
regardless of whatever and, forme, I'm, I'm always open, it's
there you know, otherwise, Iwouldn't get those.
Um, it's not intruding to mebecause it's usually, as I said,
(19:38):
when I'm driving and because Isay it's when I'm getting my
car, then the universe knows,okay, she's in the car.
Let's connect.
And most of the messages that Ipass on have been, because I
always say the time.
So if I record this, I will sayit's Tuesday, um, seven o'clock
(19:58):
or 7 p.
m.
in the UK.
So that the person knows whattime I got the message, because
that's quite relevant.
Quite often they may have justbeen doing something or thinking
about something and the messagebecomes more relevant for that
reason and again, I always startwith Hi, I hope this makes sense
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if it doesn't that's absolutelyfine.
Don't worry about it you know,don't take it on That's that's
fine.
But if it does just let me knowand that'd be great and then
Sometimes I'll get the secondpart of the message and I can
get like little things whichmean nothing to me and I'll go,
does this make sense?
And then I'll, I'll text them.
But it does start withconnection of some kind.
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Now I made a promise to theuniverse that I would be able to
be open and to me, that is thecase.
So it's, it's not very oftenaunt Nellie or grandpa, you
know, grandma that's passed, butI do.
Get those that come through asthe main message comes through.
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I mean the one yesterday waslovely because the lady that
came through was obviously aguide.
She wasn't a relative, she mayhave been in another life, but
she was a guide.
And it was just lovely that shelet me sit in her energy and it
was very soft.
And I trust the feel.
So it's about trusting.
(21:23):
And for me, it's, it's likesecond nature now.
Doesn't mean to say that it'salways correct for somebody
else, but uh, to the best of myability, what I'm receiving, I'm
giving out as clear as I can.
Now, two people can seesomething going on and they'll
describe it differently.
(21:44):
So I only give what I receive,what I feel, and no more.
Um, Because when my head startsto have an opinion, then I can
tell because the chatter sort ofcomes in a little bit more.
But again, sometimes it'schatting, as I'm chatting, it's
almost like, right, okay, clearthat bit out, now we're coming
through again.
Okay, that makes sense.
(22:05):
So it's like, You're listening,you're talking, and you're
channeling, you're, you'rehearing, you're feeling and I've
been lucky that the messageshave been, I'd say, quite nice
messages.
They've, they've been, theyhaven't been like the message
that you received and wasn'ttaken, unfortunately.
I, I have had, I don't know if Italked about this before in our
(22:28):
previous podcast, I can'tremember, um, a hoarse cry for
help and it was really desperateand I, I knew who this was for,
but I had no idea, so I passedthis message on and the person
received it and literally gotback to me straight away saying
they've just opened an email andwhat you've described, I'm
(22:49):
looking at the video right thisminute.
So I says, can you help?
Yes, probably.
Okay.
And that's all I need to know.
But my curiosity was, well, didhe help?
What happened?
But that's a human, that's thecuriosity I'm wanting to know.
Because although you're givingthem, it's the same as somebody
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receiving.
It's, well, how did she knowthat?
it's strange.
Do you find that, Ginny?
Ginny (23:15):
Yes.
I mean, I think it depends.
Different people have differentlevels of awareness or belief.
If you're asking about how thepeople receive, or are you
asking about how do you knowthat you're receiving the
certainty?
Because I'm 100 percent certain.
Oh, no, no, not that it's, it'slike you're watching a little
movie and you can hear yourselfand you know what such has
(23:38):
happened, but it's like, I'moutside of that and I'm watching
thinking, wow, how did he dothat?
It's not quite like that, butit's, yeah, it always amazes me.
It always, it always amazes me.
Absolutely.
For me, it's different for everyanimal and every human being,
because as souls, we havedeveloped different levels of
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psychic abilities in manylifetimes.
And in this lifetime, dependingupon our, Conscious awareness,
our intellectual understandingof things.
We open certain, what I callevolutionary gateways in our
consciousness.
And we then open to receivinginformation differently.
Communicating with animals.
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I could have three dogs in thesame room and three dogs.
Communicate differently.
One pictures, one feelingemotion.
One a full on dissertation won'tstop talking for 15 minutes and
take a breath of air, right?
It's different plantscommunicate different.
And I was interviewing a doctorrecently, just a few podcasts
back and I said something abouta, one of the plants saying, you
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know, I'm gonna come home withyou, or something like that to
me.
And he made sort of an offhandis joke and he, this man is a
shaman and he sort ofoffhandedly say, oh, well how
did the.
Plant learn English, you know,well, my response to him was.
The plants and the animals don'thave to speak English.
Our souls communicate in auniversal language and we
translate it because we are in ahuman body, either speaking
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German or Russian or Catillionor what have you.
The plant does not necessarilyhave to speak English, but
plants, animals, and otherpeople can Perfectly repeat to
me what other people have saidin the house, word for word for
word, including swear words, sowe know that they can hear and
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because our thoughts createpictures, they can read the
pictures and certain souls arevery advanced and communicate
very extensively, very, um,complex ideas.
Very, very specifically.
Certainly it does amaze me everyday.
As much as I am 100 percentcertain 100 percent grounded.
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I've spent so much time andeffort and money talking to
people across the world, makingsure that I'm bringing forward,
you know, accurate informationand all of this.
There is not a shred of doubtwhatsoever.
And nevertheless, no matter howconfident we are, others Can
have a lack of confidence orcertainty, and I'll share one
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other with you before wecontinue.
A horse came to me maybe twoyears ago.
Very seriously.
I need help.
Please call my caretaker.
No, I had met this horse inperson owned by sort of a
colleague friend of mine and thehorse said I am in dire straits.
I have a lot of issues.
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I can't get my soul back in mybody.
I've got a lot of trauma in mynervous system.
I don't belong here.
There's something wrong.
No, I was very friendly withthis person and I contacted her
the next day and we spoke andbye.
She said, well, what can, youknow, what can I do to help?
And I said, well, there arethese few things, but he has a
list.
He really wants to talk aboutthis.
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And, and she basically said, youknow, thank you very much.
And so the horse kept coming tome and I said, I'm sorry, I'm
unable to help you.
And he said, I will find you.
I will find you.
And I said, well, you're goingto have to find me in a very
ethical way because I can't doit like this.
I'm unable to continue thisconversation.
Well, less than a year later.
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Another friend, mutual friend,contacted me and said she had a
new horse that was asking tocommunicate with me.
And I said, sure, of course.
And we got on the phone and thehorse came forward and I said,
oh my gosh, it's this samehorse.
Well, thank goodness that personcould hear.
And the horse told me everythingthat was wrong.
The person paid for a sessionwith me.
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We figured it out and the horsewas totally allergic to living
in Arizona was in the wrongplace.
It needed to go back to anotherstate where it previously lived.
And sure enough, the universehad created the perfect opening
for it to return to its originalowner.
Gladly, happily under wonderfulcircumstances.
So sometimes the universe doesmove the chess pieces around on
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the board and the message isheard and we are able to help
and not as quickly as we wouldlike.
Sometimes, unfortunately it didtake a year and the horse did
suffer somewhat, uh, quite a bitactually.
And, and the woman that hadtaken over the care for the
horse said she couldn't believehow much was going on with the
horse that wasn't previouslyperceived.
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So anything can happen.
And I think no matter whathappens, we have to know that
we've been asked to give amessage for a reason and that we
are doing so ethically andresponsibly.
We're not doing it out of ego.
We're doing it out of love andcompassion and trying to be of
help.
But like you say.
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If it doesn't resonate, youknow, just let it pass on by.
No harm, no foul.
Ronnie (28:44):
Absolutely.
You can't force somebody.
And the same is for me you'vegot to be open and ready to, to
accept that.
I do find it comes in waves forme as you were talking, I was
giving a visual and they weresaying, explain it this way.
So if you can imagine.
a spaceship going through spaceand it is orbiting a planet and
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that's the, that's the personthat I'm connected to and
they're orbiting around thisplanet and then here am I and my
ship is coming into their orbittoo.
So we're both aligned and eachtime they're conscious.
Maybe talking to mine and that'show it's coming so basically
sometimes it's them talking tothem Selves but through me.
(29:26):
Okay, or giving them an inklingSo that's how it's coming and
then then they'll go out of myorbit and it's like that And
then maybe a few months later,we're back in sync again,
because it does come in waves.
I find people I'm giving messageto quite frequently, and then it
tails off naturally.
And then somebody else will comein or there's, you know, there's
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more than one at a time.
But then if you think about it,if everybody connected and you
stayed connected the whole timeand you were passing message on
to everybody you connected with,you'd have no time to live.
For me, It naturally has acycle, and when it's finished,
I'm almost, oh, okay, thatcycle's done, and maybe the
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person has Vibration haschanged, so they don't need that
anymore.
They're able to connect, orsomebody else is to take over,
because it's relays.
Um, I won't get a message fromsomebody that I am not able to
pass that on, even if it's likethird, fourth, fifth party.
There has to be a link.
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There has to be.
Otherwise, there's no point forme.
Um, that might be different foryou, Ginny, but for me
personally, there's thesepathways, and that's how it
works.
Ginny (30:40):
Beautiful.
Well, thank you so much forbeing willing to have this
conversation.
I think that it's very helpful.
I know that it's quite helpful,in fact, for people who are
going through these types ofgrowing pains and learning how
to navigate these new abilitiesthat we're all getting and that
we're opening up to.
And not everybody is teachingethics when they're teaching
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animal communication.
Not everybody is teachingpsychic awareness when they're
teaching healing modalities.
And You know, I am certain onethat promotes that every single
week.
How can we be more self aware,more self responsible,
energetically aware, manage ourown energy, standing in our
truth, on our own healingjourney, doing the best we can
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every day.
That, that's all.
Everybody is already doing thebest they can every day.
And in navigating this,Conversation.
This is where we begin to refinewhat self awareness means,
refine our discernment, refineour relationship to, to other
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people.
And as you said, yourrelationship to the universe and
what you indicated you would bewilling to do and under what
circumstances, you know, withobviously very healthy
boundaries.
I appreciate you so much comingback and having this
conversation.
I'm, I'm certain many people aregoing to benefit from it.
(32:09):
Would you like to share anythingin closing?
Ronnie (32:11):
Yes.
I'd just like to say that, um, Ididn't ask how it would come it.
That's how it's worked out.
But my understanding is that youalready know it's just a human
has to get on the same page.
It happens naturally.
That's my understanding.
And also it's not a showmanship.
It's from the heart and you knowwhen it's coming from the heart
(32:34):
and it doesn't have to beperfect.
Your intention is honorable andWith that compassion and
understanding, and you don'thave to read minds, you don't
have to know somebody's lifehistory, that's not what it's
about.
I think sometimes people can be,because when I first started to
(32:55):
get the messages, I was awarethat, People hadn't asked me,
and I know healing in that, you,you don't give healing unless
they've asked for it.
But I felt, and, and my guidancewas, they have asked you on a
different level, okay.
And I feel that, I sense that,otherwise I wouldn't get the
message.
(33:16):
It wouldn't come to me, itwouldn't come.
So I have to trust that andtrust the feel.
But not to be scared because ifyou're unsure, if somebody's
giving you a message and you'reunsure, just say, can I just
digest that?
I, I'm, I can feel that my guardis up.
I don't know why, but thatshould be telling me something
about myself.
(33:36):
So would you mind if I just sitwith this and see how I feel?
Anybody with a, with assaultwould say, absolutely no
problem.
If somebody's forcing you tolisten, that's a whole different
ballgame.
There's no force in this at all.
It's purely given from theheart.
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What you do with it is entirelyup to you.
It is not my responsibility andmy goal or aim to make sure that
you do something with this.
I've done my job passing it on.
I hope it's got to where it'sneeded because that's why it's
come to me, but responsibilityis not mine.
(34:18):
How you deal with this.
Um, but yeah, I can understandthere may be people that have
started doing messages and theyget excited and they're,
they're, uh, enthusiastic, butnot sort of pulling back and
just seeing and feeling theother person.
(34:39):
Um, yeah.
Does that make sense?
Ginny (34:41):
Yes, it does.
Very wise words.
Very wise words.
I invite the listeners to returnagain and have another
conversation with me next weekbecause now is the time for
interspecies evolution.
The information provided in thispodcast is not intended.
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To be a substitute forprofessional, medical,
psychiatric, or veterinaryadvice.
Our conversations are based onour life's experiences.
We intend this podcast to becomplimentary and supportive.
It is not intended to be asubstitute for traditional
(35:25):
medical, psychiatric, orveterinary care.
If you need a doctor, apsychiatrist, or a veterinarian,
please contact one immediately.
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