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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hey everyone and
welcome to the Equipped
Interview Podcast.
With a combined 30 plus yearsof being interviewed and
interviewing thousands of others, we're here to build your
confidence, help you stand outand get your dream job.
Your hosts are Joshua Tinkeyand Linda Kamali.
Let's get you equipped.
As a reminder, in these shortMonday episodes, we just bring
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you some motivation to help youpush through that stressful,
potentially stressful or evenfrustrating time of interview
prep.
We share quick, hit, practicaltips, reminders and steps you
can take to get your week going.
The goal is to keep it aroundfive minutes and jumpstart your
week.
For today's topic, we're goingto make sure you avoid several
big mistakes people make at theend of the interviewer when they
ask you what questions do youhave?
For me, personally, I used toask only the typical basic
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questions, things like where doyou see the company in five
years, or what's the biggestchallenges you see in this role?
These aren't the worstquestions, but they're certainly
not very engaging and theydon't do what you need to have
done, which is make the most ofyour opportunity and not use
that as filler time just to getout of the room.
If you really want to stand out, you have to transform not only
your questions but your entiremindset and approach to that
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portion of the interview.
We covered this briefly in theseven prep steps episode, but
today we'll cover two things ina little more detail.
First, how to transform yourmindset.
Second, the show method, whichis it's the practical way we
always recommend.
How you ask those questions.
Several years ago, I was givenreally fantastic advice from a
mentor on how to completelychange my strategy of asking
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questions at the end of theinterview.
So here's the premise the timeat the end of the interviewer is
not primarily for you to learnmore about the job.
It's actually a chance for youto share more about yourself,
engage the interviewer inconversation and show them the
real you.
So, if you think about it, mostof the interview is already
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over.
It's behind you.
Hopefully, the hardest, moststressful part's done, so you're
less nervous and you'restarting to relax a little bit.
This is the time where youhopefully have a fighting chance
of actually executing on thatadvice everyone gave you to just
be yourself.
So we've mentioned that yourinterviewer is trying to
determine three things acrossany interview right.
First, do you have the skillsand competencies they need?
Two, are you excited andpassionate about the job.
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And then, third, and always dothey like the skills and
competencies they need?
Two, are you excited andpassionate about the job?
And then, third, and always dothey like you.
So the interviewer has alreadywritten down their thoughts on
your abilities, your skills andcompetencies.
Now's the time for you to showthem your passion in a little
different way and what it's liketo have more of a real
conversation with you now thatyou're less nervous.
So, while you're showing themmore of the real you, it's also
critical to demonstrate thatyou've done your research,
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you've been intentional aboutyour prep and that you're really
passionate about the role ormaybe the organization or the
industry as a whole.
So that's how you transformyour mindset, change it from
just getting out of there totelling them more about you and
engaging them in conversationand showing them.
That's the whole gist of that,that's the transformation.
So now, how do you do that?
How do you set yourself up forsuccess here?
So, secondly, we recommend youuse something we call the show
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method S-H-O-W.
The last impression you have inthat interview, of course, is
the end right.
This is the last impressionthey'll have of you and you'll
be somewhat drained.
So here's an easy, step-by-stepapproach you can use to prepare
for those questions, so youdon't have to remember as much.
Going in S-H-O-W stands for Sshare something that you've
learned, read, heard, watched,researched fill in the blank.
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Share something H have anopinion on that item, o opinion,
get theirs this time.
And W write and wonder.
And that's right, as in writesomething down, write and wonder
S-H-O-W.
So we're going to just walkthrough each of these briefly
and then that's today's episodeS.
When you think about sharingsomething that you've learned,
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read, heard, watched, etc.
The key here is to do more thanjust a quick, no brainer
question, probably wonderingokay, what do I share?
If you haven't done this before, if you've done it, you know
how it works.
But if you haven't, prior tothe interview, you should do
some digging, as you normally doanyway, but do some extra
digging on the role, the company, industry, maybe the
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interviewers themselves.
Among other options, Irecommend obviously searching
online through articles,podcasts, books, research papers
, linkedin profiles, obviouslythe company's website, maybe
looking for their mission, apurpose, a recent strategy
change, some big initiatives,maybe something historical about
the org, maybe a trend in yourindustry.
The bottom line is look fortopics that give you something
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to discuss that's relevant tothe role and your skillset.
H have an opinion.
Once you've shared the research, give your own opinion on that
topic.
The best way to approach thisis to not only give opinion on
the facts but provide yourthoughts on how the story, the
article, industry, trend, howthat could impact the company,
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the organization as a whole orthe role that you're applying to
.
Oh, opinion, get theirs too.
Now you can't just talk, right,you still need to ask a
question.
That's what you're there for.
They say do you have anyquestions?
And you say yes, so you sharesomething that you've learned.
Hey, I've read about this orheard about this topic.
Here's my thought on that.
Here's my opinion.
Now I want to get yours.
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So this is where you turneverything into a conversation
the the best way to have arobust conversation and get the
interviewer to think is to askfor their own opinion.
So, after you share yours,share what you've learned and
shared your own opinion, it'stime to get their opinion at
this point and get them talkingabout their perspective.
You know you've asked a greatquestion if they sit back and
have to really think for aminute.
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And either way, you're aimingfor them to share their thoughts
.
So, whether they're alreadyfamiliar with what you just
shared the topic that you justbrought up or not, it's a win.
And W write and wonder.
So why write and wonder?
Because now it's time for youto actively listen and engage
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no-transcript either way.
So how do you do this?
Is you write and you wonder?
Each of those kind of have twodifferent memory triggers.
For you, the right is to writedown notes, keywords, phrases,
resources, their opinion,something that the interviewer
shares in response to you askingfor their opinion.
This just goes a long way todemonstrate your engagement.
You don't have to captureeverything they say, just key
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points.
This shows that you'reprocessing, you're thinking,
you're engaged.
What about wonder?
So it's just one example, butit's a great way to continue the
conversation after the hiringmanager provides the opinion.
So another way to think aboutthis, though, is, if you don't
like the word wonder, it's to becurious, be curious or wonder
about what they said.
Why is that their opinion?
What else should, I know, diginto their response?
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So that's how you actually turnthis into a conversation of
back and forth, back and forth,rather than you just ask a
question and then they answer,then it's over.
So it could sound somethinglike oh, that's really, really
fascinating.
You know, I didn't really thinkabout it from that perspective.
I wonder, if we changed thiskey element of it, would that
change your opinion?
Something like that.
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You use the word wonder as amemory trigger to get you to be
curious and to ask a follow-upquestion to keep the
conversation going.
So there you have it.
To summarize, that's S-H-O-WShare.
Have an opinion, opinion, gettheirs too and write and wonder
S-H-O-W.
Hope you enjoyed this Quick HitMonday motivation episode.
Stay tuned for our regularepisodes and another Monday
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motivation episode next week.
That's all for today, but let'skeep the conversation going.
Check out equippedinterviewcom.
Be intentional, do the work andbuild your confidence to stand
out in your next job interview.
Thank you.