September 18, 2024 • 33 mins
Can AI revolutionize your interview prep?
Today we covered how you can use ChatGPT and Google Interview Warmup to build your confidence and help you stand out.
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Join hosts Joshua Tinkey and Lynda Commale on this eye-opening episode of the Equipped Interview Podcast as we uncover the transformative power of AI tools like ChatGPT and Google's Interview Warmup to boost your interview success. Learn how AI is reshaping the landscape of job preparation, from simulating realistic interview scenarios to refining responses tailored to your industry. Lynda shares a story about AI's unexpected role at a college graduation, proving that its efficiency knows no bounds.
Dive deep with us as we explore how ChatGPT can become your ultimate interview coach. We'll guide you on how to simulate interview questions, customize responses, and even align your skill sets with what hiring managers are looking for. We also touch on the critical issue of high interview anxiety and how mock interviews with ChatGPT can ease your nerves. Discover how this AI can assist in crafting polished resumes and cover letters, giving you a head start in your job applications despite its occasional generic advice.
We also tackle the nuances of behavioral assessments and their increasing importance in the interview process. Using ChatGPT, you can gain insightful feedback on personality traits and values that align with job requirements. We’ll also introduce you to Google's Interview Warmup tool, which provides analytical feedback to enhance self-awareness and improve your verbal habits. Plus, we offer strategies to gracefully navigate the tricky waters of requests for free labor during interviews. With our combined expertise, you're equipped to elevate your interview prep to new heights.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hey everyone and welcome to the Equipped
Interview Podcast.
With a combined 30 plus yearsof being interviewed and
interviewing thousands of others, we're here to build your
confidence, help you stand outand get your dream job.
Your hosts are Joshua Tinkeyand Linda Kamali.
Let's get you equipped.
So, linda, are you real?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
No.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Perfect, let's keep going then.
So you never know.
But you can't really goanywhere without seeing AI pop
up.
So I thought I'd ask if thiswas you or some other version of
you, linda.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
But whether you're online.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Perhaps it is, perhaps it's not Online social
media, the news whereverEveryone's talking about it.
But anyway, much of AI isreally in its infancy stage, but
we want you to stand out in anyway you can, so we thought we'd
dive into figuring out a way tohelp you out with this.
So today we're going to shareour thinking and some of the
basics very, very basics.
This is just going to skim thesurface.
(01:08):
There's so much we could talkabout here, but we want you to
find ways to take advantage ofAI and all of its opportunities
to help you improve and alsospeed up your interview prep,
and that's what our show isgoing to be about today.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, I mean and honestly, Josh, just in these
past few weeks playing around onsome of the platforms that are
available to us.
There's just so much and, likeyou said, we're really just
skimming it, but there'sabsolutely some resources out
there that will help you andsupport you as a resource to
prep, so we're really lookingforward to sharing some of this.
I wanted to give a shout out toone of our listeners that
(01:43):
recently reached out.
Her name is Jessica.
Jessica is real.
I promise she's not AI, but shereached out a few weeks ago,
sharing with both Josh and I.
She said thank you, thank you,thank you.
The podcast is so amazing andhas really been helping me prep
for a new role.
We cannot thank you enough,jessica.
(02:03):
We're so thrilled that whatwe're sharing is helping you.
Thank you for listening.
Thank you for sharing that.
We're helping you.
To give everyone an update,jessica has gotten through round
one.
She feels great.
She's preparing for round two.
We're super pumped for you,jessica.
You've so got this.
Keep us posted and continue tokeep up the wonderful interview
prep.
(02:23):
We're so excited for you.
And to everyone else out therelistening, you know if this
podcast is helpful for you,please share it.
You know this is.
This is all about sharing, josh, and I do this because we just
believe that interview prep isso important and we feel that we
have so many wonderful tips tobe able to share.
So we would love for you toshare and forward podcasts to
(02:43):
your friends or folks that areout there looking for a job, and
, if you also want to, we wouldlove for you to give us a rating
, and we do love five stars,don't we?
Josh?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
They're my favorite personally, your favorite yeah,
All right, Josh.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
so what's ahead today ?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay, so we're going to focus on, obviously, AI, and
you know, chat GPT is a big partof that, but we're going to
share some of our initialthoughts.
Number one Second, today we'regoing to dive into a couple of
specific tools, one of thembeing chat GPT and another is
Google's interview warmup.
I learned a few things aboutthat.
And then, third, we're going tocontinue something we started
last episode, which is just giveyou a tip from a recent article
(03:20):
that we found that you might bepretty common questions that
you might find helpful.
So the one today.
So stay tuned to the end of theepisode, which is going to be
how to handle things when yourinterview interviewer asks you
to do work for free as part ofthe interview process that comes
up.
I've definitely spoken to a fewfolks that get asked to do work
as part of the interview.
How do you handle requests forfree labor?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, that definitely does come up and I've been
hearing it actually more andmore, which is very interesting.
It's like almost like a trialrun Before we dive in.
I wanted to share this with you.
So over the weekend my daughtergraduated from college, so very
exciting weekend.
But I had made a comment to herafterwards that I was so
impressed with the speaker whoannounced all the names and how
(04:04):
everything just felt soconsistent.
It was going really well.
I didn't feel like names weremispronounced and she said Mom,
that wasn't a person, that wasAI.
We had to say our name into asystem and it recorded it and an
AI system said the names.
I was floored.
I was floored.
It was, I thought it wasbrilliant, I was floored.
(04:27):
I was floored, it was, Ithought it was brilliant.
And my son reacted that it wasa very Terminator type of
feeling that you know that thatwas happening.
But I just was really flooredand I just thought that was
really brilliant, because we allhave different types of names
and diversity and and it was Ijust thought it was a really
efficient way to do things.
There were a couple apparentlyhiccups I didn't hear them where
something repeated and someonehad to click a button to kind of
get it to go back.
But pretty powerful, this AIstuff.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
That's right.
Well, until we can fullyreplicate you in voice and video
replication of you, where youdon't even have to go to your
own interview, you will have toshow up to your own interview
and we're going to help withthat today and how to get ready.
One of the things that is, Ithink, important before we get
into any specific tools to knowis using AI, whether it's chat,
(05:10):
gpt or anything else.
It is a tool, it's somethingthat's available to you.
It's at your disposal.
It's certainly more advancedthan something like Google
itself, google search.
I know they're working on theirown AI tools, but it's not.
It's a tool nonetheless.
So it doesn't know you and itcan't handle the interview for
you.
So you still need to put in thetime.
You still need to know yourself, learn what's important to talk
(05:31):
about.
You need to put in the time bypracticing.
You need to know how to speedthings up, but one of the things
it can do is it can help speedthings up for you if you know
what to ask, and that's animportant part of things.
It's, lastly, not a substitutefor practice Using any type of
(05:53):
tool, whether it's online, suchas an AI tool or any other kind
of research that you do.
It doesn't replace practice.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
No dependency.
Yeah, I think about the.
You do not want to depend onthis.
This is a tool in your toolbelt that should be
supplementing, enhancing,enriching how you're preparing,
and there's such wonderfulopportunities within ChatGPT and
some of the tools that we'regoing to talk about.
But I think about the worddependency.
You do not want to depend onthis solely, definitely.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
And actually, linda, I was thinking about like which,
as we talk about each topic wethink about hey, where does this
fall?
Or most closely aligned to anyof our seven prep steps that we
talk about?
And I think it really couldfall under almost all of them.
So there's not any one that I'mgoing to a target today and
focus on, it's just any.
Any part of your prep, asyou'll see, as we talk through
these can you can really speedthings up and just get your
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juices flowing, get the brainmoving a little bit, to give you
some ideas on how you can moreeasily prep.
So those are my just initialopening thoughts.
You still need to put in thework, but there are ways to help
speed you up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yep.
So I think about I've beenplaying around lately on ChatGPT
for the past few weeks and, asI've shared, I have two college
kids, one recent graduate, andso they've been.
I have, you know, two collegekids, one recent graduate, and
so they've been, you know,starting to play around a little
bit and I have to say, josh, Ihave been blown away by what
these tools can do.
Some of the things that I'vedone so far, I've just thrown in
(07:18):
just some basic interviewquestions, the ones that we all
struggle with.
You know, how do I best preparefor my introductory question?
How do I answer the questionabout my strengths and
weaknesses?
I have definitely found that, inmy experience, the more
specific information you cangive, the more personalized the
information coming back at mehas been.
(07:39):
But even putting in somethingas simple as how do I answer my
weakness question, what I was soimpressed with with the system
was it was giving which wereally try to do in this podcast
a lot, josh, is what are theylooking for?
When you were thinking aboutthat question and every single
interview question that I wasputting in through ChatGPT, that
was one of the first sentencesthat came back to.
(08:00):
What they're looking for inthis question is this, and these
are some of the ways that youcould answer it.
And then it gave examples, andI thought that was so important
because, at the end of the day,each question that's being asked
, there's a reason.
They're looking for acompetency, they're looking for
a skill.
What is it that they're lookingfor?
And then you're using yourpersonalization and your
experiences to answer thatquestion.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Perfect.
Let's jump into chat GPT, yeah,yeah.
So there are a couple specifictools we're going to talk about,
one of which is the one thatpretty much everyone, at least
starts with there's there'sseveral out there, but this is
the big one that most peoplewill be most familiar with and
is probably using.
So, chat gpt, um.
The way we're going to do thisis give you again it's more like
(08:42):
a skim the surface situation,but it gives you some ideas of
some ways among almost infinite,but some ways you can use the
um, the platform, to be able tospeed up your interview prep,
give you new ideas that youmight've not thought of and a
few practical tips along the way.
So we'll start with chat GTP,then we'll move on to Google's
interview prep software.
(09:03):
So, number one, one of the wehave a list here, but the first
one is pretty simple, but youcan practice interview questions
with it.
So you, lenny, already sharedsome of those examples that you
did, but a lot of candidates canuse chat GPT to really simulate
interview questions and commonscenarios, but by asking common
interview questions.
(09:24):
So you can even you can evenput something in, like you said.
You give me an example not onlyof how to answer that.
But what are, what are thecommon questions?
Number one and number two, likehow do I answer that?
And then I think the importantpart is you can give it
parameters.
You can say, hey, I'm in thisindustry, I, I wants to stay
away from this phrase, or I wantto specifically use this phrase
(09:46):
.
Build that into my question andyou can tweak and tailor it and
keep going.
Don't just start, don't justaccept the first answer that it
spits out.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Keep tweaking, customize it, continue to add
more information.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yep, and you can be as generic as asking something
like what are some effectivestrategies to answer
behavior-based interviewquestions.
So that's kind of general, likeit might give you some more
generic feedback.
Or how do I give me two, threeexamples, three different
examples of how I can answer.
Tell me about a time when youhad to deal with conflict with a
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coworker right, you can be morespecific there and ask for
three separate examples and thentweak the one that most
resonates with you and your lifeexperiences and then use some
of the other advice we havearound.
Make sure that you're tyingyour skills to that specific
question.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And you can even you know put in the type of role
that you're applying for, thetype of industry.
Giving the system as muchinformation as possible is
really going to help you kind ofrefine how you think about the
answer that it's providing, thatChatGPT is providing, and then
marrying it up with your ownskill set and experiences.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
One of the things that you hear us talk about.
If you've listened to anyepisode, you've probably heard
this.
We talk about making sure youknow the top three to five
skills that you know or thinkthat the hiring manager is
looking for, and what you bringto the table should match at
least most of those skills.
And so I practiced with this inchat, GPT, and I said, okay,
(11:11):
here are the five skills that Iwant to highlight during my
interview.
Please use at least one inevery answer you give me.
You know one to all of theseskills that you highlight in
your responses that you give me,and so you can build this right
into the cake.
Right, Give it the skills youwant it to tell you and it'll
tell them to you and phrase it.
And this is just to give youagain ideas.
You're not going to use this asa verbatim, is my guess.
(11:34):
You're not going to memorizethese, but it gives you an
example of how to start thinkingabout some of these and maybe
ways that you didn't think aboutbefore.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah.
So we encourage you if you'regetting ready for an interview,
play around, throw somequestions in there and as you
prep, I think you'll be reallysurprised at what a great tool
it could be.
Josh, I love the second onehere with ChatGPT allowing you
to do a mock interview session.
I have not played around with amock interview perhaps, but
I've done some work around casestudies to see how it could help
(12:05):
prep you.
I think this is powerful whereyou can engage in a mock
interview session with chat GPTand it will ask you questions
that you could literally sitthere at your you know home desk
and and do it a little mockinterview.
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Exactly so there's.
It's not the same asinteracting with a person and
getting real and real feedbackand you know sensing behavior or
facial recognition, you knowthings like that.
But it's a really good startwhere and you have to put in the
right prompt.
It's not going to just do this,but you can put in the prompter
.
I'm going for this role, I'mgoing in this industry and you
have to tell it to to engage ina mock interview asking me, ask
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me five questions and providefeedback on my responses and on
my performance, and you're goingto have to type that in.
So, in that way too, it's notnot like a standard interview
right, where you're verbalizingthings back and forth with the
interviewer, but it's a reallygood start.
You won't know what question iscoming.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
You're gonna have to think, think through it and type
it out.
You know where I think, Josh, Iwould recommend this.
As someone that has really highstress levels when it comes to
interviews, where they have someanxiety about maybe some public
speaking, this would besomething that I would probably
recommend for someone to do athome by themselves on their own,
just to start hearing theirvoice out loud and kind of
building that confidence.
Maybe start with one or twoquestions just to kind of play
around with.
I think this could be reallyhelpful for some folks that have
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that deeper anxiety aroundinterviewing.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Definitely it's a great start, great starting
point and if someone does needadditional, if you're out there
listening and you need someadditional mock interview type
help, maybe we can help withthat.
You can talk to a coworker or acolleague.
Doing it in person is the nextstep, obviously after that, but
this is a really, really goodstart.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, Number three resume and cover letter review,
Josh.
What have we learned about thisso far?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah.
So I think there's pros andcons with this one.
I think it's a good start.
So if you're trying to figureout what to put, if you're
trying to edit or I guess I'llback up If you're trying to
start a resume or to refine it alittle bit, this is a good
place to a really good place tostart, because it's going to
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give you a lot of somewhatgeneric in my opinion, somewhat
generic advice, tips what to putin a resume, common traps to
avoid things like that, which isgreat.
If you already have your resumelargely designed and you're
just looking for really tailoredadvice.
I don't think it's quite thereyet, at least at GPT.
I think it does a better jobwith a cover letter.
It does better with writing andkind of more prose than it does
the resume itself.
I threw my resume in there itwas a couple of years old, the
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resume just to see what it woulddo and I think two out of the
20 bullet points that it gaveadvice on were tailored to my
actual resume that I pasted inthere, where the rest of them
were just generic responses thatit gives everybody like hey, if
you're trying to, um, if you'retrying to get tips on how to
write a strong resume, that'swhat it put out is just generic
tips.
So I think there's pros andcons with this one, but I didn't
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play with it that long.
So I think the more and morespecific prompts or direction
you give it, I think the morespecific advice you're going to
get back.
It's my guess.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, I do think, like if you're just getting
started and you haven't createda resume, you know building a
very foundational resume, butthen you're going to have to
continue to build it out.
You know it may be helpfulthere as well.
But I agree, like anything thatI've seen so far hasn't been
hasn't greatly wowed me, but Ithink it's just the beginning.
I think it's we're going toprobably get there with this.
But, like you said, josh, thecover letter, anything writing
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wise, any type of cover lettersor thank you letters, boy, you
don't have to give it muchinformation and it really spits
out some beautiful paragraphs.
I have been really impressedwith this piece and I mean we're
in a time, you know place,where cover letters are not as
common as they used to be.
That was something that I alwayshad to do, but they do.
(15:58):
They are required or even tosummarizing some of your skills.
That's something you can do,but cover letters, and
especially thank yous, reallyproduce some beautiful writing.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
All right, the fourth of how many do we have for this
Six, Fourth of six, for bestways that you can use ChatGPT
For this.
You can research the company,Research the organization that
you're going for.
I mean, you can do that almostanywhere, right?
But there's an additional waythat you can think through how
to best be prepared aroundwhat's going on in their
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organization where you'reinterviewing whether you work
there or not, it's still good tosee what is, I guess, common
out there, commonly known aboutthe organization you're going
for.
You can pose certain questionslike what are the recent
accomplishments of company XYZ?
Or provide me insights on theculture at the company or the
organization, but really it'sreally only thing going to be as
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good as the questions you askand how public the information
is.
But it's a good starting point,just like anything else.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, I feel like like using chat, gpt as opposed
to just your basic google search, this, this may give you a
little bit more refinement, um,to which I think is interesting,
where you could say like, yeah,what is the?
You know the top threeaccomplishments that this
company you know accomplishedthis year?
Or, um, you know who is havingan impact in the financial
industry?
(17:22):
I think that, like, like yousaid, the specifics too, but
this is going to be interesting.
I think it's just going torefine it a little more than
your basic Google search.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, it's all about trying to speed things up and
that's maybe it'll speed thingsup by a few minutes, but hey,
those are minutes that you haveback, so yeah absolutely Number
five kind of blends in a littlebit where you could start doing
a little bit of research onindustry, job-specific insights,
any type of tips.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I think you could, as a candidate, ask for advice on
any type of industry trends orchallenges or best practices
around that particular role.
In the last one, just grabbingone or two additional nuggets
(18:06):
may really be that make it orbreak it during that interview,
especially as you're creatingyour questions and your
conversation pieces to go backand forth with the person
interviewing you.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's exactly where I was going to go next, linda,
so prep step seven.
Yeah, we're thinking just likewe didn't even prep that, no pun
intended.
The prep.
Step seven is where we want youto stand out in the interview
process with conversationstarting questions using what we
call the show method, whichthat's an acronym S-H-O-W.
(18:34):
So that's just as a reminder ifyou haven't seen that before.
That's the S stands for share,share something that you've read
, you've learned, you've watched, you've experienced.
H is have an opinion on it, ois opinion get theirs this time.
And W is to write things downand pay attention and wonder
about and be curious about theiranswer.
So you continue theconversation.
(18:55):
So the S is often the hardestpart, the share what am I
supposed to share in thatquestion?
Josh, is what I get, and sothis is where you can get that
information.
This is huge.
I really like this option.
So if you, as a prompt, put intochat GPT like what are, what
are some of the, what are thetop three trends in this
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industry or challenges orbiggest piece of news that I
should know about in this fromthis organization or this
industry, and how can I be moreinformed around the trends in
this industry, that's a reallygood starting spot because
that's what you want to showcasewhen your questions at the end
of the interview, when they sayhey Josh, what questions do you
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have for us?
You want to be wildly preparedto start a conversation and have
them see you as a, as apotential colleague or someone
that is knowledgeable about theindustry.
And this is a really goodprimer for you to figure out
where do I get that content,where do I get that knowledge if
you don't have it already?
Right, and so this can give youso many good options for you to
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start building out yourconversation.
Starting question and I love itbecause I would often refer
people to Google or LinkedIn andfind some of that.
I think this can really speedup that process along the way.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think so too.
Good one.
And our last one here isbehavioral assessments.
So some of these platforms,chatgpt included, are offering
behavioral assessment tools thatcan help you analyze some
personality traits and valuesand work styles.
This is something I'm a reallybig fan of, just in general.
I love when I learn about a newsystem or quiz or assessment.
(20:35):
You know, often done throughuniversities where you can work
individually or with quiz orassessment.
You know, often done throughuniversities where you can work
individually or with a team toyou know better understand who
you are and what works well foryou.
What's so great is that you canactually do some of these right
through chat GPT.
They just provide so manyvaluable insights about yourself
, how you can articulate.
You know kind of who you arefrom a, from a um, a skilled
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worker perspective, and and itmay very, very much help you
during your interview process.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Definitely, and one of the things that I regularly
say is, when you're trying totalk about your strengths, you
can talk about it and you can bevery persuasive about it, but
there's something to adding alayer of credibility to what, to
something beyond yourselftelling, telling the interviewer
that, oh, you know one of mystrengths, if you're going for a
leadership role, one of mystrengths is is developing other
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people.
Actually, when I took the youknow, the strengths finder
assessment, one of my top fivestrengths came back as a
developer.
And so that's.
That's actually a real lifeexample for me.
That was one of my top fivestrengths and consistently, when
I took that particularassessment.
But I used that a lot ininterviews to back up what I was
saying, adding some objectivethird-party assessments into my
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own.
It's not just my opinion thatI'm good at X, y or Z.
Someone else determined thattoo.
So you can use that for anyassessment, anything that you
want to back up and add somecredibility to what you're
saying in an interview.
This is a great way to do it,and you can have any one of
these AI platforms help youspeed that up.
I actually don't know I'd haveto do some more research as to
what are some of the otheroptions that do offer this, but
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yeah, I'm sure you could justtype it right in the chat GPT, I
could tell you, or Google itand find out, but that's a way
you can use one of theseplatforms to help speed up your
interview prep.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Love it.
So Google interview warmup.
Tell me more.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Josh, yeah, so this actually is not apparently not
that new, but it is new-ish andso I haven't talked.
We haven't talked about this onthe podcast at all, but Google
has Definitely not getting asmuch talk as compared to ChatGPT
either.
No, and I think it's becauseit's a one trick pony, but it's
one that happens to be relevantto our conversation.
So I know Google is working.
(22:39):
I forget what they named it,but they're working on their own
competition at JetGPT.
Separate from this.
This is unique to whatever whatall of you were listening for
interview prep, so they calltheirs interview warmup.
I want to say it's maybe twoyears old.
I'm sure they've improved it,but how they describe it, they
self-describe it as a quick wayto prepare for your next
(23:00):
interview.
I'm like, okay, that soundspretty good, so I did a little
research on it.
It really helps you practicekey questions, get insights
about your answers and get morecomfortable interviewing.
That's also some of their.
You know their talk track iswhat they want to do to help you
get ready.
So essentially how it works isyou can get prompted for common
questions.
So far sounds a lot like chatGPT, but you can get prompted
(23:20):
for common questions like tellme about yourself or tell me
about a time you made a mistake.
How did you communicate thatmistake?
And this one is really nicebecause you can just start
talking.
You just start talking.
The tool records and fullytranscribes your answer.
So it provides then insightsabout what you just said.
It'll analyze it and spit kindof spit back out to you
(23:41):
highlights, and those highlightsinclude job related keywords
that you just used.
It'll go over, go over yourmost commonly used words and the
main talking points that youcovered.
So it really does some prettyquick analysis you, because it
can transcribe quickly what youjust said.
So this could be really helpfulto see in writing.
One use that I thought thiscould be helpful for is simply
(24:04):
to see in writing how often youmight use filler words like uh,
um or you know.
You start seeing that right infront of your face when you have
37 uhs, 29 ums and 16 you knows, in front of you during a
one-minute response.
You might want to checkyourself on that a little bit.
So I think it's a really greattool.
I actually did not test it yet.
(24:25):
I went through a couple of theprompts but I did not test the
full recording test.
So full disclosure there, but itlooks great.
I mean Google, it's not brandnew, so I think they've probably
tweaked it enough that it workspretty well.
It's a very simple tool, butit's a great free option.
If you don't have access to aperson or mock interviews where
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you want to get a person'sinsight, this could be a really
good way to speed up yourinterview prep.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
That's my favorite part of it, Josh, is that the
kind of the recording aspect ofit, especially for those filler
words.
I mean that's just somethingthat we see so commonly that the
word like.
For some reason, folks rightout of college like to use the
word like.
I once had someone who used theword dude after every sentence
(25:12):
that he said that was a greatone.
He would have really benefitedfrom this, but it's so powerful
to be able to see it in writingand so, yeah, give us a try.
I mean, there's definitelystill a downside you don't get
the human part of it, but thisis one tool in your tool belt.
Hopefully you'll be able to getthe human side as well, but
this offers a really, reallygood alternative.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Linda, I told you not to bring up how many times I
said dude.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I still hired you right.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It does sound like something I would have done, and
he said it with such aninflection, like dude.
It was great I loved it, it'spassionate, it made me giggle
almost every time.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
No, he did not get the role.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
There you go.
See, maybe if he had usedGoogle.
And just a reminder, I think wesaid it earlier, but I'll say
it again it's Interview Warm-Upis the full name, google's
Interview Warm-Up.
If you want to look that, we'lllink to it in the show notes
too, just so you find it.
See, there you go.
And I'm going to count one more.
Um repeating, you still don'tget the human connection, the
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human insights, theinterpretation of some of that,
whether they're verbal or visualcues, and the one downside this
is an important one too youmight not have thought about
there are no follow-up questions.
Google will ask you a question,it'll display it on the screen
and you'll respond, but youdon't get any practice getting
any follow-ups, any probing, anykind of questions that are a
(26:38):
level deeper and that's reallycommon in interviews.
It's not a Q&A, it is aninterview Interviewers.
You know, linda, I mean we bothdive deeper into what someone
just said.
So this is a start, just likeanything else.
It scratches the surface, butit's a good start, but it
doesn't take the place ofpracticing with a real live
person, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
So that answer our question here for folks that
stayed with us till the end.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Absolutely.
So.
That covered both chat, GPT andGoogle interview warmup.
Now I just want to brieflytouch on if you get asked to do
some free work during theinterview process.
How do you handle that?
Like, what do you, what do youwant to do?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And so I don't want to do it, Josh.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's, that's my gut inclination, right?
Uh, what I don't want to dofree work, especially time
elements, and like what if theytake it and use it and just or?
It always goes through yourhead Like are they just
interviewing people, me included, just to get free work, and
then we're not actually going tohire anybody?
So like there you go Now.
Now I'm super self-conscious ofsaying, like I just said, like
(27:40):
I said I'm a second ago, I'mgoing to just edit all of those
out.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, I can't believe I did it no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
All right, linda.
So here here's some thoughts,and it kind of boils down to one
thing If you get asked to dosome, what you see as free work
and it largely is to provide asample of something or work on a
project and give it your bestpresentation, things like that I
think.
I think we.
I agree and I I'm guessing youwill too, linda with the author
of this article where they sayif a job interview requests me
to complete any sort of freework, the first thing I ask is
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if the work is paid.
If it isn't, the only way I'lldo it is if it requires a
maximum of one hour of my time.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I think it is.
I think it is too.
I mean, if you, if you're inany way in your job, requires
writing and you're asked to givea writing sample, great, those
are already done, you send awayyour sample.
But an hour of new time, I meanyou're, you're spending time
prepping for the interview.
That's free right.
You free right.
You're spending time preppingfor maybe a case study or some
(28:59):
other type of work.
So it is.
It can be valuable to investtime from a time sake into the
interview process to try to geta job, but I think it is fair to
have a limit on some of thiswork.
I definitely known and workedwith a couple of folks who just
flat out said, no, I don't, Idon't think it's right to do
this level of work for aninterview, whether it's because
they were already in the sameindustry and it was a competitor
or something like that, that'sone that I've handled.
(29:21):
And then they were fine withthat.
The interviewer said I get that, I respect that, and they moved
them along in the processanyway.
So I think it just depends onyour situation.
But I think it's good to haveto go in with a guideline in
your head that hey, there's amaximum amount of work I'll do
for free.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Especially if it's true work we often see with case
studies or certain type ofinterview prep, where it's
hypothetical, it's not real.
They're wanting to see how youthink, how you strategize, how
you problem solve.
I've spent hours and hours oncase studies in round two, round
three of roles that I've gonefor and have earned wouldn't
change a thing.
Did I love spending hours on it?
No, but it was situationalbecause they want to see how I
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think and how I get throughthings.
This is different.
This is true work that they'repotentially going to be using,
you know, in some sort ofpublication piece.
And I think that's where youhave to really ask yourself, you
know, do I really want thisrole?
Do you know, am I adding value?
Do I want to take this momentto shine?
And and for some an hour may bethe max, for others they may be
(30:25):
more comfortable with two orthree, depending on, you know,
if they really really wanted it.
I often see in companies wherecompanies will offer, like
internal, internal internships,where you're essentially, I mean
, you're just, you're stillgetting a paycheck, but you're
doing new work for free becausethey're test driving you.
At the end of the day, this iswhat's happening here they're
(30:46):
getting you to work for freebecause they're test driving you
.
They want to see the skillsetin action and see if you're
going to be a right fit.
So you do have to reallyreflect on you know, do you
really want this role?
And we've seen through thisarticle that we've read that you
know, for some folks,absolutely, they're willing to
put in and get the roll up thosesleeves, but for others like,
nah, I didn't want this as muchand I'm not going to spend that
time.
(31:07):
Great about, like the early daysof prepping for an interview
with your good old fashionedtypewriter and cover letter and
resume.
And here we are with all ofthese amazing, you know tools
that we have in our tool beltand chat, gpt and and the Google
(31:27):
interview prep.
I mean it's just pretty amazingand we really hope to all of
our listeners that you enjoyedhearing about how you can speed
up and improve your interviewprocess with these new tools
available to you.
But at the end of the day, aswe shared, this is a tool in
your tool belt.
You always have to be true toyourself, enjoy the interview
process, be your genuine self,and this is really truly all
(31:50):
about your opportunity to growand your time to shine.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Absolutely, and if you have any questions on this
topic or really anything youwant us to have a conversation
about a topic, about a questionyou want to ask, us love to help
you out here.
Send us a question or anycomments to questions at
equippedinterviewcom.
All right, well, that is allfor today, but let's keep the
conversation going.
So go ahead and check outequippedinterviewcom.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Tune in next time as we talk all about how to master
prep steps two and three.
Thanks so much for listening.
Remember you've got this.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Be intentional, do the work and build your
confidence to stand out in yournext job interview.
Thank you.
Hey everyone and welcome to the Equipped
Interview Podcast.
With a combined 30 plus yearsof being interviewed and
interviewing thousands of others, we're here to build your
confidence, help you stand outand get your dream job.
Your hosts are Joshua Tinkeyand Linda Kamali.
Let's get you equipped.
So, linda, are you real?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
No.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Perfect, let's keep going then.
So you never know.
But you can't really goanywhere without seeing AI pop
up.
So I thought I'd ask if thiswas you or some other version of
you, linda.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
But whether you're online.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Perhaps it is, perhaps it's not Online social
media, the news whereverEveryone's talking about it.
But anyway, much of AI isreally in its infancy stage, but
we want you to stand out in anyway you can, so we thought we'd
dive into figuring out a way tohelp you out with this.
So today we're going to shareour thinking and some of the
basics very, very basics.
This is just going to skim thesurface.
(01:08):
There's so much we could talkabout here, but we want you to
find ways to take advantage ofAI and all of its opportunities
to help you improve and alsospeed up your interview prep,
and that's what our show isgoing to be about today.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, I mean and honestly, Josh, just in these
past few weeks playing around onsome of the platforms that are
available to us.
There's just so much and, likeyou said, we're really just
skimming it, but there'sabsolutely some resources out
there that will help you andsupport you as a resource to
prep, so we're really lookingforward to sharing some of this.
I wanted to give a shout out toone of our listeners that
(01:43):
recently reached out.
Her name is Jessica.
Jessica is real.
I promise she's not AI, but shereached out a few weeks ago,
sharing with both Josh and I.
She said thank you, thank you,thank you.
The podcast is so amazing andhas really been helping me prep
for a new role.
We cannot thank you enough,jessica.
(02:03):
We're so thrilled that whatwe're sharing is helping you.
Thank you for listening.
Thank you for sharing that.
We're helping you.
To give everyone an update,jessica has gotten through round
one.
She feels great.
She's preparing for round two.
We're super pumped for you,jessica.
You've so got this.
Keep us posted and continue tokeep up the wonderful interview
prep.
(02:23):
We're so excited for you.
And to everyone else out therelistening, you know if this
podcast is helpful for you,please share it.
You know this is.
This is all about sharing, josh, and I do this because we just
believe that interview prep isso important and we feel that we
have so many wonderful tips tobe able to share.
So we would love for you toshare and forward podcasts to
(02:43):
your friends or folks that areout there looking for a job, and
, if you also want to, we wouldlove for you to give us a rating
, and we do love five stars,don't we?
Josh?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
They're my favorite personally, your favorite yeah,
All right, Josh.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
so what's ahead today ?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay, so we're going to focus on, obviously, AI, and
you know, chat GPT is a big partof that, but we're going to
share some of our initialthoughts.
Number one Second, today we'regoing to dive into a couple of
specific tools, one of thembeing chat GPT and another is
Google's interview warmup.
I learned a few things aboutthat.
And then, third, we're going tocontinue something we started
last episode, which is just giveyou a tip from a recent article
(03:20):
that we found that you might bepretty common questions that
you might find helpful.
So the one today.
So stay tuned to the end of theepisode, which is going to be
how to handle things when yourinterview interviewer asks you
to do work for free as part ofthe interview process that comes
up.
I've definitely spoken to a fewfolks that get asked to do work
as part of the interview.
How do you handle requests forfree labor?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, that definitely does come up and I've been
hearing it actually more andmore, which is very interesting.
It's like almost like a trialrun Before we dive in.
I wanted to share this with you.
So over the weekend my daughtergraduated from college, so very
exciting weekend.
But I had made a comment to herafterwards that I was so
impressed with the speaker whoannounced all the names and how
(04:04):
everything just felt soconsistent.
It was going really well.
I didn't feel like names weremispronounced and she said Mom,
that wasn't a person, that wasAI.
We had to say our name into asystem and it recorded it and an
AI system said the names.
I was floored.
I was floored.
It was, I thought it wasbrilliant, I was floored.
(04:27):
I was floored, it was, Ithought it was brilliant.
And my son reacted that it wasa very Terminator type of
feeling that you know that thatwas happening.
But I just was really flooredand I just thought that was
really brilliant, because we allhave different types of names
and diversity and and it was Ijust thought it was a really
efficient way to do things.
There were a couple apparentlyhiccups I didn't hear them where
something repeated and someonehad to click a button to kind of
get it to go back.
But pretty powerful, this AIstuff.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
That's right.
Well, until we can fullyreplicate you in voice and video
replication of you, where youdon't even have to go to your
own interview, you will have toshow up to your own interview
and we're going to help withthat today and how to get ready.
One of the things that is, Ithink, important before we get
into any specific tools to knowis using AI, whether it's chat,
(05:10):
gpt or anything else.
It is a tool, it's somethingthat's available to you.
It's at your disposal.
It's certainly more advancedthan something like Google
itself, google search.
I know they're working on theirown AI tools, but it's not.
It's a tool nonetheless.
So it doesn't know you and itcan't handle the interview for
you.
So you still need to put in thetime.
You still need to know yourself, learn what's important to talk
(05:31):
about.
You need to put in the time bypracticing.
You need to know how to speedthings up, but one of the things
it can do is it can help speedthings up for you if you know
what to ask, and that's animportant part of things.
It's, lastly, not a substitutefor practice Using any type of
(05:53):
tool, whether it's online, suchas an AI tool or any other kind
of research that you do.
It doesn't replace practice.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
No dependency.
Yeah, I think about the.
You do not want to depend onthis.
This is a tool in your toolbelt that should be
supplementing, enhancing,enriching how you're preparing,
and there's such wonderfulopportunities within ChatGPT and
some of the tools that we'regoing to talk about.
But I think about the worddependency.
You do not want to depend onthis solely, definitely.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
And actually, linda, I was thinking about like which,
as we talk about each topic wethink about hey, where does this
fall?
Or most closely aligned to anyof our seven prep steps that we
talk about?
And I think it really couldfall under almost all of them.
So there's not any one that I'mgoing to a target today and
focus on, it's just any.
Any part of your prep, asyou'll see, as we talk through
these can you can really speedthings up and just get your
(06:43):
juices flowing, get the brainmoving a little bit, to give you
some ideas on how you can moreeasily prep.
So those are my just initialopening thoughts.
You still need to put in thework, but there are ways to help
speed you up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yep.
So I think about I've beenplaying around lately on ChatGPT
for the past few weeks and, asI've shared, I have two college
kids, one recent graduate, andso they've been.
I have, you know, two collegekids, one recent graduate, and
so they've been, you know,starting to play around a little
bit and I have to say, josh, Ihave been blown away by what
these tools can do.
Some of the things that I'vedone so far, I've just thrown in
(07:18):
just some basic interviewquestions, the ones that we all
struggle with.
You know, how do I best preparefor my introductory question?
How do I answer the questionabout my strengths and
weaknesses?
I have definitely found that, inmy experience, the more
specific information you cangive, the more personalized the
information coming back at mehas been.
(07:39):
But even putting in somethingas simple as how do I answer my
weakness question, what I was soimpressed with with the system
was it was giving which wereally try to do in this podcast
a lot, josh, is what are theylooking for?
When you were thinking aboutthat question and every single
interview question that I wasputting in through ChatGPT, that
was one of the first sentencesthat came back to.
(08:00):
What they're looking for inthis question is this, and these
are some of the ways that youcould answer it.
And then it gave examples, andI thought that was so important
because, at the end of the day,each question that's being asked
, there's a reason.
They're looking for acompetency, they're looking for
a skill.
What is it that they're lookingfor?
And then you're using yourpersonalization and your
experiences to answer thatquestion.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Perfect.
Let's jump into chat GPT, yeah,yeah.
So there are a couple specifictools we're going to talk about,
one of which is the one thatpretty much everyone, at least
starts with there's there'sseveral out there, but this is
the big one that most peoplewill be most familiar with and
is probably using.
So, chat gpt, um.
The way we're going to do thisis give you again it's more like
(08:42):
a skim the surface situation,but it gives you some ideas of
some ways among almost infinite,but some ways you can use the
um, the platform, to be able tospeed up your interview prep,
give you new ideas that youmight've not thought of and a
few practical tips along the way.
So we'll start with chat GTP,then we'll move on to Google's
interview prep software.
(09:03):
So, number one, one of the wehave a list here, but the first
one is pretty simple, but youcan practice interview questions
with it.
So you, lenny, already sharedsome of those examples that you
did, but a lot of candidates canuse chat GPT to really simulate
interview questions and commonscenarios, but by asking common
interview questions.
(09:24):
So you can even you can evenput something in, like you said.
You give me an example not onlyof how to answer that.
But what are, what are thecommon questions?
Number one and number two, likehow do I answer that?
And then I think the importantpart is you can give it
parameters.
You can say, hey, I'm in thisindustry, I, I wants to stay
away from this phrase, or I wantto specifically use this phrase
(09:46):
.
Build that into my question andyou can tweak and tailor it and
keep going.
Don't just start, don't justaccept the first answer that it
spits out.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Keep tweaking, customize it, continue to add
more information.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yep, and you can be as generic as asking something
like what are some effectivestrategies to answer
behavior-based interviewquestions.
So that's kind of general, likeit might give you some more
generic feedback.
Or how do I give me two, threeexamples, three different
examples of how I can answer.
Tell me about a time when youhad to deal with conflict with a
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coworker right, you can be morespecific there and ask for
three separate examples and thentweak the one that most
resonates with you and your lifeexperiences and then use some
of the other advice we havearound.
Make sure that you're tyingyour skills to that specific
question.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And you can even you know put in the type of role
that you're applying for, thetype of industry.
Giving the system as muchinformation as possible is
really going to help you kind ofrefine how you think about the
answer that it's providing, thatChatGPT is providing, and then
marrying it up with your ownskill set and experiences.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
One of the things that you hear us talk about.
If you've listened to anyepisode, you've probably heard
this.
We talk about making sure youknow the top three to five
skills that you know or thinkthat the hiring manager is
looking for, and what you bringto the table should match at
least most of those skills.
And so I practiced with this inchat, GPT, and I said, okay,
(11:11):
here are the five skills that Iwant to highlight during my
interview.
Please use at least one inevery answer you give me.
You know one to all of theseskills that you highlight in
your responses that you give me,and so you can build this right
into the cake.
Right, Give it the skills youwant it to tell you and it'll
tell them to you and phrase it.
And this is just to give youagain ideas.
You're not going to use this asa verbatim, is my guess.
(11:34):
You're not going to memorizethese, but it gives you an
example of how to start thinkingabout some of these and maybe
ways that you didn't think aboutbefore.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah.
So we encourage you if you'regetting ready for an interview,
play around, throw somequestions in there and as you
prep, I think you'll be reallysurprised at what a great tool
it could be.
Josh, I love the second onehere with ChatGPT allowing you
to do a mock interview session.
I have not played around with amock interview perhaps, but
I've done some work around casestudies to see how it could help
(12:05):
prep you.
I think this is powerful whereyou can engage in a mock
interview session with chat GPTand it will ask you questions
that you could literally sitthere at your you know home desk
and and do it a little mockinterview.
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Exactly so there's.
It's not the same asinteracting with a person and
getting real and real feedbackand you know sensing behavior or
facial recognition, you knowthings like that.
But it's a really good startwhere and you have to put in the
right prompt.
It's not going to just do this,but you can put in the prompter
.
I'm going for this role, I'mgoing in this industry and you
have to tell it to to engage ina mock interview asking me, ask
(12:45):
me five questions and providefeedback on my responses and on
my performance, and you're goingto have to type that in.
So, in that way too, it's notnot like a standard interview
right, where you're verbalizingthings back and forth with the
interviewer, but it's a reallygood start.
You won't know what question iscoming.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
You're gonna have to think, think through it and type
it out.
You know where I think, Josh, Iwould recommend this.
As someone that has really highstress levels when it comes to
interviews, where they have someanxiety about maybe some public
speaking, this would besomething that I would probably
recommend for someone to do athome by themselves on their own,
just to start hearing theirvoice out loud and kind of
building that confidence.
Maybe start with one or twoquestions just to kind of play
around with.
I think this could be reallyhelpful for some folks that have
(13:29):
that deeper anxiety aroundinterviewing.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Definitely it's a great start, great starting
point and if someone does needadditional, if you're out there
listening and you need someadditional mock interview type
help, maybe we can help withthat.
You can talk to a coworker or acolleague.
Doing it in person is the nextstep, obviously after that, but
this is a really, really goodstart.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, Number three resume and cover letter review,
Josh.
What have we learned about thisso far?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah.
So I think there's pros andcons with this one.
I think it's a good start.
So if you're trying to figureout what to put, if you're
trying to edit or I guess I'llback up If you're trying to
start a resume or to refine it alittle bit, this is a good
place to a really good place tostart, because it's going to
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give you a lot of somewhatgeneric in my opinion, somewhat
generic advice, tips what to putin a resume, common traps to
avoid things like that, which isgreat.
If you already have your resumelargely designed and you're
just looking for really tailoredadvice.
I don't think it's quite thereyet, at least at GPT.
I think it does a better jobwith a cover letter.
It does better with writing andkind of more prose than it does
the resume itself.
I threw my resume in there itwas a couple of years old, the
(14:43):
resume just to see what it woulddo and I think two out of the
20 bullet points that it gaveadvice on were tailored to my
actual resume that I pasted inthere, where the rest of them
were just generic responses thatit gives everybody like hey, if
you're trying to, um, if you'retrying to get tips on how to
write a strong resume, that'swhat it put out is just generic
tips.
So I think there's pros andcons with this one, but I didn't
(15:05):
play with it that long.
So I think the more and morespecific prompts or direction
you give it, I think the morespecific advice you're going to
get back.
It's my guess.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, I do think, like if you're just getting
started and you haven't createda resume, you know building a
very foundational resume, butthen you're going to have to
continue to build it out.
You know it may be helpfulthere as well.
But I agree, like anything thatI've seen so far hasn't been
hasn't greatly wowed me, but Ithink it's just the beginning.
I think it's we're going toprobably get there with this.
But, like you said, josh, thecover letter, anything writing
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wise, any type of cover lettersor thank you letters, boy, you
don't have to give it muchinformation and it really spits
out some beautiful paragraphs.
I have been really impressedwith this piece and I mean we're
in a time, you know place,where cover letters are not as
common as they used to be.
That was something that I alwayshad to do, but they do.
(15:58):
They are required or even tosummarizing some of your skills.
That's something you can do,but cover letters, and
especially thank yous, reallyproduce some beautiful writing.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
All right, the fourth of how many do we have for this
Six, Fourth of six, for bestways that you can use ChatGPT
For this.
You can research the company,Research the organization that
you're going for.
I mean, you can do that almostanywhere, right?
But there's an additional waythat you can think through how
to best be prepared aroundwhat's going on in their
(16:33):
organization where you'reinterviewing whether you work
there or not, it's still good tosee what is, I guess, common
out there, commonly known aboutthe organization you're going
for.
You can pose certain questionslike what are the recent
accomplishments of company XYZ?
Or provide me insights on theculture at the company or the
organization, but really it'sreally only thing going to be as
(16:55):
good as the questions you askand how public the information
is.
But it's a good starting point,just like anything else.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, I feel like like using chat, gpt as opposed
to just your basic google search, this, this may give you a
little bit more refinement, um,to which I think is interesting,
where you could say like, yeah,what is the?
You know the top threeaccomplishments that this
company you know accomplishedthis year?
Or, um, you know who is havingan impact in the financial
industry?
(17:22):
I think that, like, like yousaid, the specifics too, but
this is going to be interesting.
I think it's just going torefine it a little more than
your basic Google search.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, it's all about trying to speed things up and
that's maybe it'll speed thingsup by a few minutes, but hey,
those are minutes that you haveback, so yeah absolutely Number
five kind of blends in a littlebit where you could start doing
a little bit of research onindustry, job-specific insights,
any type of tips.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I think you could, as a candidate, ask for advice on
any type of industry trends orchallenges or best practices
around that particular role.
In the last one, just grabbingone or two additional nuggets
(18:06):
may really be that make it orbreak it during that interview,
especially as you're creatingyour questions and your
conversation pieces to go backand forth with the person
interviewing you.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's exactly where I was going to go next, linda,
so prep step seven.
Yeah, we're thinking just likewe didn't even prep that, no pun
intended.
The prep.
Step seven is where we want youto stand out in the interview
process with conversationstarting questions using what we
call the show method, whichthat's an acronym S-H-O-W.
(18:34):
So that's just as a reminder ifyou haven't seen that before.
That's the S stands for share,share something that you've read
, you've learned, you've watched, you've experienced.
H is have an opinion on it, ois opinion get theirs this time.
And W is to write things downand pay attention and wonder
about and be curious about theiranswer.
So you continue theconversation.
(18:55):
So the S is often the hardestpart, the share what am I
supposed to share in thatquestion?
Josh, is what I get, and sothis is where you can get that
information.
This is huge.
I really like this option.
So if you, as a prompt, put intochat GPT like what are, what
are some of the, what are thetop three trends in this
(19:15):
industry or challenges orbiggest piece of news that I
should know about in this fromthis organization or this
industry, and how can I be moreinformed around the trends in
this industry, that's a reallygood starting spot because
that's what you want to showcasewhen your questions at the end
of the interview, when they sayhey Josh, what questions do you
(19:36):
have for us?
You want to be wildly preparedto start a conversation and have
them see you as a, as apotential colleague or someone
that is knowledgeable about theindustry.
And this is a really goodprimer for you to figure out
where do I get that content,where do I get that knowledge if
you don't have it already?
Right, and so this can give youso many good options for you to
(19:58):
start building out yourconversation.
Starting question and I love itbecause I would often refer
people to Google or LinkedIn andfind some of that.
I think this can really speedup that process along the way.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, yeah, I think so too.
Good one.
And our last one here isbehavioral assessments.
So some of these platforms,chatgpt included, are offering
behavioral assessment tools thatcan help you analyze some
personality traits and valuesand work styles.
This is something I'm a reallybig fan of, just in general.
I love when I learn about a newsystem or quiz or assessment.
(20:35):
You know, often done throughuniversities where you can work
individually or with quiz orassessment.
You know, often done throughuniversities where you can work
individually or with a team toyou know better understand who
you are and what works well foryou.
What's so great is that you canactually do some of these right
through chat GPT.
They just provide so manyvaluable insights about yourself
, how you can articulate.
You know kind of who you arefrom a, from a um, a skilled
(20:57):
worker perspective, and and itmay very, very much help you
during your interview process.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Definitely, and one of the things that I regularly
say is, when you're trying totalk about your strengths, you
can talk about it and you can bevery persuasive about it, but
there's something to adding alayer of credibility to what, to
something beyond yourselftelling, telling the interviewer
that, oh, you know one of mystrengths, if you're going for a
leadership role, one of mystrengths is is developing other
(21:22):
people.
Actually, when I took the youknow, the strengths finder
assessment, one of my top fivestrengths came back as a
developer.
And so that's.
That's actually a real lifeexample for me.
That was one of my top fivestrengths and consistently, when
I took that particularassessment.
But I used that a lot ininterviews to back up what I was
saying, adding some objectivethird-party assessments into my
(21:44):
own.
It's not just my opinion thatI'm good at X, y or Z.
Someone else determined thattoo.
So you can use that for anyassessment, anything that you
want to back up and add somecredibility to what you're
saying in an interview.
This is a great way to do it,and you can have any one of
these AI platforms help youspeed that up.
I actually don't know I'd haveto do some more research as to
what are some of the otheroptions that do offer this, but
(22:04):
yeah, I'm sure you could justtype it right in the chat GPT, I
could tell you, or Google itand find out, but that's a way
you can use one of theseplatforms to help speed up your
interview prep.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Love it.
So Google interview warmup.
Tell me more.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Josh, yeah, so this actually is not apparently not
that new, but it is new-ish andso I haven't talked.
We haven't talked about this onthe podcast at all, but Google
has Definitely not getting asmuch talk as compared to ChatGPT
either.
No, and I think it's becauseit's a one trick pony, but it's
one that happens to be relevantto our conversation.
So I know Google is working.
(22:39):
I forget what they named it,but they're working on their own
competition at JetGPT.
Separate from this.
This is unique to whatever whatall of you were listening for
interview prep, so they calltheirs interview warmup.
I want to say it's maybe twoyears old.
I'm sure they've improved it,but how they describe it, they
self-describe it as a quick wayto prepare for your next
(23:00):
interview.
I'm like, okay, that soundspretty good, so I did a little
research on it.
It really helps you practicekey questions, get insights
about your answers and get morecomfortable interviewing.
That's also some of their.
You know their talk track iswhat they want to do to help you
get ready.
So essentially how it works isyou can get prompted for common
questions.
So far sounds a lot like chatGPT, but you can get prompted
(23:20):
for common questions like tellme about yourself or tell me
about a time you made a mistake.
How did you communicate thatmistake?
And this one is really nicebecause you can just start
talking.
You just start talking.
The tool records and fullytranscribes your answer.
So it provides then insightsabout what you just said.
It'll analyze it and spit kindof spit back out to you
(23:41):
highlights, and those highlightsinclude job related keywords
that you just used.
It'll go over, go over yourmost commonly used words and the
main talking points that youcovered.
So it really does some prettyquick analysis you, because it
can transcribe quickly what youjust said.
So this could be really helpfulto see in writing.
One use that I thought thiscould be helpful for is simply
(24:04):
to see in writing how often youmight use filler words like uh,
um or you know.
You start seeing that right infront of your face when you have
37 uhs, 29 ums and 16 you knows, in front of you during a
one-minute response.
You might want to checkyourself on that a little bit.
So I think it's a really greattool.
I actually did not test it yet.
(24:25):
I went through a couple of theprompts but I did not test the
full recording test.
So full disclosure there, but itlooks great.
I mean Google, it's not brandnew, so I think they've probably
tweaked it enough that it workspretty well.
It's a very simple tool, butit's a great free option.
If you don't have access to aperson or mock interviews where
(24:46):
you want to get a person'sinsight, this could be a really
good way to speed up yourinterview prep.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
That's my favorite part of it, Josh, is that the
kind of the recording aspect ofit, especially for those filler
words.
I mean that's just somethingthat we see so commonly that the
word like.
For some reason, folks rightout of college like to use the
word like.
I once had someone who used theword dude after every sentence
(25:12):
that he said that was a greatone.
He would have really benefitedfrom this, but it's so powerful
to be able to see it in writingand so, yeah, give us a try.
I mean, there's definitelystill a downside you don't get
the human part of it, but thisis one tool in your tool belt.
Hopefully you'll be able to getthe human side as well, but
this offers a really, reallygood alternative.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Linda, I told you not to bring up how many times I
said dude.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I still hired you right.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It does sound like something I would have done, and
he said it with such aninflection, like dude.
It was great I loved it, it'spassionate, it made me giggle
almost every time.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
No, he did not get the role.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
There you go.
See, maybe if he had usedGoogle.
And just a reminder, I think wesaid it earlier, but I'll say
it again it's Interview Warm-Upis the full name, google's
Interview Warm-Up.
If you want to look that, we'lllink to it in the show notes
too, just so you find it.
See, there you go.
And I'm going to count one more.
Um repeating, you still don'tget the human connection, the
(26:17):
human insights, theinterpretation of some of that,
whether they're verbal or visualcues, and the one downside this
is an important one too youmight not have thought about
there are no follow-up questions.
Google will ask you a question,it'll display it on the screen
and you'll respond, but youdon't get any practice getting
any follow-ups, any probing, anykind of questions that are a
(26:38):
level deeper and that's reallycommon in interviews.
It's not a Q&A, it is aninterview Interviewers.
You know, linda, I mean we bothdive deeper into what someone
just said.
So this is a start, just likeanything else.
It scratches the surface, butit's a good start, but it
doesn't take the place ofpracticing with a real live
person, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
So that answer our question here for folks that
stayed with us till the end.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Absolutely.
So.
That covered both chat, GPT andGoogle interview warmup.
Now I just want to brieflytouch on if you get asked to do
some free work during theinterview process.
How do you handle that?
Like, what do you, what do youwant to do?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And so I don't want to do it, Josh.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's, that's my gut inclination, right?
Uh, what I don't want to dofree work, especially time
elements, and like what if theytake it and use it and just or?
It always goes through yourhead Like are they just
interviewing people, me included, just to get free work, and
then we're not actually going tohire anybody?
So like there you go Now.
Now I'm super self-conscious ofsaying, like I just said, like
(27:40):
I said I'm a second ago, I'mgoing to just edit all of those
out.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, I can't believe I did it no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
All right, linda.
So here here's some thoughts,and it kind of boils down to one
thing If you get asked to dosome, what you see as free work
and it largely is to provide asample of something or work on a
project and give it your bestpresentation, things like that I
think.
I think we.
I agree and I I'm guessing youwill too, linda with the author
of this article where they sayif a job interview requests me
to complete any sort of freework, the first thing I ask is
(28:30):
if the work is paid.
If it isn't, the only way I'lldo it is if it requires a
maximum of one hour of my time.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I think it is.
I think it is too.
I mean, if you, if you're inany way in your job, requires
writing and you're asked to givea writing sample, great, those
are already done, you send awayyour sample.
But an hour of new time, I meanyou're, you're spending time
prepping for the interview.
That's free right.
You free right.
You're spending time preppingfor maybe a case study or some
(28:59):
other type of work.
So it is.
It can be valuable to investtime from a time sake into the
interview process to try to geta job, but I think it is fair to
have a limit on some of thiswork.
I definitely known and workedwith a couple of folks who just
flat out said, no, I don't, Idon't think it's right to do
this level of work for aninterview, whether it's because
they were already in the sameindustry and it was a competitor
or something like that, that'sone that I've handled.
(29:21):
And then they were fine withthat.
The interviewer said I get that, I respect that, and they moved
them along in the processanyway.
So I think it just depends onyour situation.
But I think it's good to haveto go in with a guideline in
your head that hey, there's amaximum amount of work I'll do
for free.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Especially if it's true work we often see with case
studies or certain type ofinterview prep, where it's
hypothetical, it's not real.
They're wanting to see how youthink, how you strategize, how
you problem solve.
I've spent hours and hours oncase studies in round two, round
three of roles that I've gonefor and have earned wouldn't
change a thing.
Did I love spending hours on it?
No, but it was situationalbecause they want to see how I
(30:03):
think and how I get throughthings.
This is different.
This is true work that they'repotentially going to be using,
you know, in some sort ofpublication piece.
And I think that's where youhave to really ask yourself, you
know, do I really want thisrole?
Do you know, am I adding value?
Do I want to take this momentto shine?
And and for some an hour may bethe max, for others they may be
(30:25):
more comfortable with two orthree, depending on, you know,
if they really really wanted it.
I often see in companies wherecompanies will offer, like
internal, internal internships,where you're essentially, I mean
, you're just, you're stillgetting a paycheck, but you're
doing new work for free becausethey're test driving you.
At the end of the day, this iswhat's happening here they're
(30:46):
getting you to work for freebecause they're test driving you
.
They want to see the skillsetin action and see if you're
going to be a right fit.
So you do have to reallyreflect on you know, do you
really want this role?
And we've seen through thisarticle that we've read that you
know, for some folks,absolutely, they're willing to
put in and get the roll up thosesleeves, but for others like,
nah, I didn't want this as muchand I'm not going to spend that
time.
(31:07):
Great about, like the early daysof prepping for an interview
with your good old fashionedtypewriter and cover letter and
resume.
And here we are with all ofthese amazing, you know tools
that we have in our tool beltand chat, gpt and and the Google
(31:27):
interview prep.
I mean it's just pretty amazingand we really hope to all of
our listeners that you enjoyedhearing about how you can speed
up and improve your interviewprocess with these new tools
available to you.
But at the end of the day, aswe shared, this is a tool in
your tool belt.
You always have to be true toyourself, enjoy the interview
process, be your genuine self,and this is really truly all
(31:50):
about your opportunity to growand your time to shine.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Absolutely, and if you have any questions on this
topic or really anything youwant us to have a conversation
about a topic, about a questionyou want to ask, us love to help
you out here.
Send us a question or anycomments to questions at
equippedinterviewcom.
All right, well, that is allfor today, but let's keep the
conversation going.
So go ahead and check outequippedinterviewcom.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Tune in next time as we talk all about how to master
prep steps two and three.
Thanks so much for listening.
Remember you've got this.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Be intentional, do the work and build your
confidence to stand out in yournext job interview.
Thank you.
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