February 22, 2025 • 40 mins
**Audio podcast note: When Steve talks about electrical and magnetic energy, he makes an up-and-down waveform with his hand for electrical and makes a sideways infinity-like symbol for magnetic.
Insights on Logic, Intuition, and the Nature of Reality with Steve Rother and The Group
Known for his work with The Group through Espavo, Steve Rother often shares insights that bridge science and metaphysics, yet he emphasizes their distinct approaches to understanding reality.
In today's BackStory podcast, Steve elaborates on how science, with its structured methodologies and empirical validation, tends to focus on what can be measured and repeated, adhering to a framework of fixed laws and linear thinking. Metaphysics, on the other hand, embraces the unseen, intuitive, and multidimensional aspects of existence, allowing for fluidity beyond physical constraints.
Steve describes how The Group illustrates these differences: science is like a straight-line pathway governed by predictability and control, while metaphysics is a curved, flowing journey shaped by energy, vibration, and human consciousness. He emphasizes that while both perspectives seek to uncover truths about the universe, they do so through vastly different lenses—science seeks to explain how, while metaphysics explores why. According to The Group, true wisdom emerges when these two perspectives are integrated, allowing for a more holistic understanding of our existence.
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Music. Hi everybody, welcome.
I'm Steve Rother on the channel for the group here to spavo.org.
Welcome to the Back story podcast.
You know the the we started thispodcast a while back for a lot
of different reasons. Number one, we wanted a
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different way to be able to bring you pertinent information,
things that the group is saying.We're putting out a lot of
seminars, and sometimes I'll saysomething over here, they'll
repeat it in Light Master, or sometimes I'll say it in Light
Master and never repeat it again.
So this is an opportunity for meto just talk as Steve and be
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able to kind of give you my opinion and my view of some of
the things that group is saying.And then of course, we've been
doing a lot of wonderful interviews.
We've got some incredible light workers on this planet right now
and, and many of you are here orwhat we call awakening you're,
you're starting to move into a whole different environment
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where your passion becomes incredibly important.
So we wanted to introduce you toa bunch of people that have done
the same thing that it basicallystarted sometimes many of these
people have actually started in our seminars that we've done all
over the world for the last 15 or 20 years, 25 years.
I forgot how I don't even know how old I am.
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So it's OK. So today I want to talk about
something really, it's really kind of funny because this is a,
this is a really big important subject, especially to Steve
and, and partly because it was so confusing to me.
And it's still, it still is. But we've got some really
interesting things that are taking place globally about
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balancing science and metaphysics.
OK, so metaphysics are what I do.
I'm a channel. I speak to entities from the
other side of the veil. Science is a different
environment, entirely different than what we do here in those
areas. And yet I use a lot of science
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in the teaching. The group shows me things and
they'll say, look this up or check this out or see this.
And then I, I Google it, I come up with, you know, some quantum
physics experiment that just completely validates all the
things they're saying. So we have always been,
especially the last, I don't know, 10 years.
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We've been looking for this blend between science and
metaphysics to where we can see this in both directions and so
forth. And that's really what I want to
speak about today. That's the aspect that I want to
talk about here this day is the blend of spirituality and
science. Now I have to say hard and fast
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science scientists are going to cringe at the thought of those
two mixing and, and I'll talk a little bit about that.
And it's, it's really important to keep in mind no one's right
or no one's wrong, OK? We're both just like almost
everybody on Earth. We're trying to get to the same
place, but we're using differentmethods.
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That's all. So with that in mind, I want to
talk a little bit about that. Like I said, the group talks a
lot, especially, especially about quantum sciences, quantum
physics, quantum mechanics, about being able to use that
because it, it actually naturally validates a lot of
things. The group is talking about one
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of the things, just to give you a quick, for instance, the
double slit experiment in quantum physics.
I'm not going to go into the whole experiment.
It's not important. And I know many of you are not
technical, so I'm going to try and stay out of the technologies
today and the and too much of the of the sciences, but it
fascinates me. I've studied science.
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I, I get four or five science magazines in the bathroom all
the time. So yeah, I'm always reading and
watching documentaries and so forth on this stuff.
There's some incredible stuff out there, but in looking at
that, there's some really interesting things that are
taking place that I want to address.
When I first started channeling,channeling in general was
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feared. It was considered.
It was considered at that time awoo woo science.
That's basically what they called it.
And the funny part about it is we we talked about this in some
of our bigger seminars on the first day and we all joked about
being woo woo scientists and everything else.
We came back the next day with with little hats that said woo
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woo scientist, you know, all thedifferent things.
So the reality is we live in a different world.
And that's the key that the group wants to bring up today
about the different worlds that we live in, the different
aspects that we work in, and what that looks like having to
do with science and metaphysics.Now, there's a lot of people
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that are doing a really good jobof bringing these two together.
There's Greg Braden, there's there's a there's a whole slew
of people out there that are doing just a really good job of
this. And yet what I'm going to talk
about today is basically the thewhole function of science and
the function of metaphysics. OK, so here's here's the first
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aspect that I want to talk about, and it's from personal
experience. I'll tell you what motivated me
to do this. I watch a lot of documentaries.
I absolutely love the on prime. There is the Great Courses
series and I just, I'd love that.
It's not well produced, but it'sit's got a lot of good
information. It's got a lot of bad
information in it too. So you got to kind of go
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through, but that's life. Anyway, I watch a lot of
documentaries. I watch a lot of things I love
to kind of stir my mind and educate myself in different
ways. So it's it's fun.
In the meantime, I'm taking thiscourse and it's like 9 sessions
or something. It's fairly small course, but in
that it was called, it was called critical thinking.
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Well, I didn't really know what the words critical thinking
meant. But here I am taking this little
course and you know, it's 9 episodes about an hour and a
half each on critical thinking, what that is.
And they start talking about critical thinking and they start
talking about how the brain works and everything.
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All of which the group absolutely agrees with 100%.
I'm getting excited because they're going to show me some
new techniques about a tool for focusing our life energy and so
forth to be able to focus and, and not waste a lot of time and
everything else that we typically do.
So in this critical thinking, itbecame their little red flags
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kept coming up and the gentlemankept talking about what it was
like and what it was. And then at one point he said
something that was just just completely threw me off.
I had to stop watching at that point.
And he basically said, are you aperson who believes in space
beings and believes that people have been abducted and believes
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that the governments are hiding it?
If so, you're not a critical thinker.
Well, that it's like the group said, change a channel.
So I, I, I, I stopped right awayand, and left a little review
because to me, and what I said in the review was I said I was
really fascinated by what you were saying until you said this.
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There's not many astrophysicistsout there because
astrophysicists happened to knowa little bit about how big this
universe really is. We look at the stars in the sky
and we see all these. If you're in a place where you
can actually see them, we see all these incredible.
If you've ever been out in like the desert, I go out to Zion all
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the time, to Red Rock Canyon, todifferent places here in my part
of the world near Las Vegas and I, you can see, you can actually
see the Milky Way and it lights up the sky.
It when you can get away from the light pollution in a place
where it's fairly comfortable, you can see some really
beautiful things. But there's billions, and we
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call them stars. Many of those are galaxies with
billions of stars in them. With those kind of numbers.
For anybody to say that they know this is right and that
there's no other life in the universe, even if you don't
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believe in aliens, even if you don't believe any abductions.
He even referenced the lady in New York that was seen by a 40
or 50 people who was actually taken out of the building and
raised up in the sky. One of them happened to be the
mayor of one of the cities there.
So literally this was this was astab.
So to me, like I said, it was very close mindedness when he
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said those things because it basically means that we're a bit
arrogant, aren't we? And we believe we're the only
ones, are we? We, and we naturally believe
that we are the highest vibration of everything because
when we look at our, our situation on Earth, we are,
we're a higher vibration in the trees.
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We're a higher vibration than the, than the other animals, the
dogs, the cats, the horses, all the rest of it.
So we tend to think in those terms.
And I do believe that we get rather arrogant with a lot of
these belief systems. And me personally, I've had a
really hard time talking about aliens, about space beings,
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about some of the history. The group has no problem.
I will tell you that group has no problem talking about it.
It's Steve that has pulled a lotof that back.
I have no idea why I had so muchtrouble with it, but I did.
So anyway, I'm not trying to convince people of alien life or
anything during this podcast. Again, what I'm talking about is
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science versus metaphysics. OK, so let me bring it to a
different area. Science is very well defined,
very clear boundaries, very straight lines.
Jim Self calls that Jim Ko stuffcalls straight lines male, curvy
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lines female. I love that analogy.
So very straight lines, very, very specific, very hard and
fast rules and all about credentials.
In fact, this entire course series that I signed up for the,
the courses on, on Prime Video, there they spend the 1st 15
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minutes telling you all about the credentials.
And he's at this set and he's done this and he's, he's been
all around the world. Well, the reality is we don't
hear from many people who've wonNobel Prizes, who've won no
Nobel Prizes in science and physics in astrophysics or any
of these things. We just generally don't hear
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about it. There's a few people that step
forward. We've got Neil deGrasse Tyson,
an astrophysicist who comes forward.
We've got Mechio Kaku, one of myfavorite people.
I just really like his open mindedness.
Neil deGrasse Tyson, not so much.
Brian Greene. Yes, yeah.
Wonderful, wonderful scientists coming in with some of this
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information. Sometimes closed minded,
sometimes open it. It doesn't really make any
difference. It doesn't change what they're
presenting, but what it changed what it does is takes their
attitudes and brings it into thework sometimes, which kind of
taints it a little bit for me anyway.
So I will tell you right off thebat, I have no credentials.
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OK? So if, if that's really
important to you, you may want to change channels right now
because I have not. In fact, I didn't even go to
college. The reality is that the group
came in and started bringing me these things and I did a lot of
research in different areas. I'm fairly intelligent anyway,
but they, they brought a whole bunch of this information in and
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I just exploded in this energy. So for the past 2526 years now I
had her 27 years actually, I've been doing a lot of this work
and talking a lot about sciences.
We talked about the solar flares.
We talked about the solar cycles, what they do to the
Earth, the neutrinos. And I have to tell you, the
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group has a slightly different story than the than science.
We know, for instance, that whenwe have solar flares, when we
read, when we go into solar maximus every 12 years, that we
get pelted with these neutrinos.We know that because we have
neutrino counters all over the globe now, usually underground,
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usually in total darkness, as total as they can get.
And we know that we get pelted with neutrinos.
Neutrinos are so small that billions of them pass through
your body without ever having aneffect.
At least that's what science says.
Group says, no, sorry, they havean effect.
They not only have an effect with you, but they have an
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effect with the Earth. And they happen to say, by the
way, they're really good for theEarth.
So although you can get too manysolar flares, they've got their
electrical components, of course, they can knockout
shortwave radio signals, they can watch, they can put extra
charges in the electrical wires because it is a electricity,
which is magnet magnetism and electricity.
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And they can actually cause a lot of challenges in different
ways. But the group says celebrating
when they come in science is notsaying that.
Science is just saying, watch out.
You know, we we're going to havea solar player we're going to
hit and everything else. So it's a different approach in
different ways. So I will tell you that although
we do talk a lot about science, many times the group has a
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different opinion than many of the foremost scientists in the
world. The one that I really agree with
most is Michio Kaku. That's where I kind of really
enjoyed listening to him and hisopen mindedness.
He's absolutely incredible. The biggest thing that the group
says when all of their messages is that we are creator beings.
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That's not supported by science at all, at all.
So we live in different worlds, and that's the point of what I
want to talk about. We've been talking about the
blend of science and metaphysics.
From what the group tells me, wewill blend them together on the
outside, but science will never change.
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It can't. It lives in a totally different
world. Let's let me give you another
illustration. If we have a spiral of
electromagnetism, which the group says travels in spirals,
everybody else travels in waves.Actually the electrical wave
travels this way, the magnetic wave travels this way.
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Group says if you put it together it's actually a spiral.
Anyway, just interesting point. Electromagnetism are both part
of each other. The magnetism is in fact a part
of the electricity. Can you separate them?
Yes you can. You can use one without the
other. And yet they're both come from
the electromagnetic spectrum. So if we take this spiral and we
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just call it a circle for a moment and we measure it this
way, we have magnetism. If we measure it this way, we
have electricity. It's a good illustration the
group has been using for years, especially in light master
course. We've been talking a lot about
that. So with those two things, we're
going to take that to a next level and Simply put it, and I
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will tell you that again, Jim Self was the one who originally
came up with this information. But let's put that into the
physical human condition and saythat the head is electrical and
that the heart is magnetic. OK?
That's the difference between science and metaphysics.
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They live in different worlds. Can they work together?
Yes, if they don't ignore each other, if they don't devour,
devoid each other in different ways.
So that's the idea of this. This is electrical, this is
magnetic. Now should we blend them
together and make the head more magnetic?
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Well, you probably not. You need your head to be
thoughts, you need your head to be thinking.
And science lives up here, metaphysics live on here.
And that's the main difference. Spirituality is here, science is
here. Can I prove my spirituality up
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here? Not, no, you can't.
Have you ever tried it? One of the the, the greatest
thing that we have on this planet.
The group actually calls it the universal energy.
What? We'll get into much more of that
at another time. But basically they say we feel
that as love. So if love is one of the most
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important things on this planet,how come science has never
written about it? Science cannot quantify love.
It's very simple. It's not supposed to.
It lives down here, doesn't liveup here.
We we can fall in love up here. We can have our images that we
love to reflect. You know, you always fall in
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love with people that somewhat look like you and, and if you're
together a long time, you start looking like each other.
Have you ever seen those illustrations?
I was married to a very beautiful woman.
I'm the luckiest guy in the world.
That's true because I, I definitely wasn't beautiful.
So anyway, that's the idea of the differences.
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Now, I do believe that many times people get very locked
into their belief systems. And one of the biggest
challenges that I have about those differences and what
science refers to us as many times is pseudoscience.
That's really kind of a slap in the face, isn't it?
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I mean, we could call them pseudo metaphysics, couldn't we?
I mean, you know, really, if you're talking about the double
slit experiment, you talk about the fan, the fact that if you
turn off the cameras and you stop watching that experiment,
it changes. Are you a creator being or what
the group says? If you ever see any experiment,
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any double-blind experiment, anydouble-blind study, they try to
go out of it, and they are always influenced by the person
who decided to do that study in the first place.
Even if they have nothing to do with setting it up or nothing to
do with the testing or the running of the system.
They influence it because you'rea creator being.
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So that's part of the differencebetween science and metaphysics.
Science is going to be on simple, factual, observable
items, which is great. We need that.
Absolutely needed. And yet.
Why do we have so many religionson the world?
Why do we have so many religiouspeople on the planet?
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And I know most hardline scientists are absolutely not
religious. They're not only not religious,
they're not spiritual. And that's really a shame.
So here, here we are again at the difference.
It's an interesting aspect the the study and everything else
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important. Of course, you can study
metaphysics, you can get degreesand different aspects of
religion, all the theology that's out there and all the
billions of opportunities that you have to work in those areas.
And they're both highly respected.
It's kind of funny, but because the religious person is more
highly respected in the scientific community if they
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have this long list of degrees. So there we go again, back to
the back to the degrees, back tothe validation.
OK, now let's get back to one that word that really bothers
me, and that's the pseudoscience.
What do they call pseudo? Well, they call astrology
pseudoscience. So let's just take astrology for
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just a moment. Humans used to look at the sky.
They'd see these beautiful things and imagine that that was
a dog. Imagine that this was something
else. Imagine that this was a fish and
and be able to do that. And then of course, all the
stories behind it. It could just be that they're
channeling. Obviously I'm open to that
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because I am a channel myself. That's how I get my information.
That's how this comes through me.
Do I pretend to know more than ascientist?
No, not in their world. I know more about metaphysics.
I know more about spirituality probably than most of them.
But it's not a race and we're not comparing each other.
That's not the idea. The idea is to stimulate and
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maybe work together. That's the beautiful part of
this whole aspect that I get very excited about.
South, spirituality and metaphysics do not blend
together. They live in different worlds.
You're not going to be able to quantify different things in
science unless you let go of some belief systems that you may
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have in metaphysics. And the reverse is also true.
Now, is it wrong? Does it, Is it wrong that we're
different and we're not going toblend to get, no, it's not
wrong. We need the scientists to be
very specific in their realm. It would be wonderful if they
can say, well, here's what we'vediscovered.
And we, and we don't go into here because we've had trouble
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with this before. So we draw a line right here and
we, and here's what we've discovered.
And over here, metaphysics says,well, we don't have lines, we
have curves, and our curves go around in different ways to be
able to see things in different ways.
So again, living in different realities.
And it's not wrong. It's absolutely not wrong.
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So when you see these different things that are taking place,
you have so many wonderful people out there that I love to
listen to and so forth. But at certain points I have to
turn it off. I just cannot take the close
mindedness and the arrogance of sciences.
Some scientists in this world and at the same time, if they're
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not putting us down, they say, you know, this could be, well,
that's perfect. Now let's go back to astrology
for a second. Does astrology work?
Not 100%. I don't know any astrologist
that does that. Astrology isn't meant to give
you a specific guideline of everything that works every
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time. Astrology, at least in my
experience, has always been about here's a path down here.
And if you follow this, you can you can go in this direction and
here's your natural tendencies according to the stars.
And here's what's coming on the planet according to the stars.
Allison Chester Lambert, the astrologist here at Hispano for
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so many years, it was incrediblyaccurate.
People love to was it specific? Did she say On this date, this
is going to happen? Well, she she did she say On
this date, this changes and thismoves into this, this house and
this shifts and this is going tocause this to change and so
forth. But she didn't make specifically
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accurate predictions that would have been more accepted in
science. Why?
Again, in metaphysics, we tend to work with the curvy lines
instead of the straight ones. We tend to be a little bit more
open in different areas to be able to accept different things
in different ways. That to me is where I like to
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live. Now that's just me.
Scientists are over here and I Iknow some sciences scientists in
my own field and friends of minethat are hard line scientists.
And 25 years ago when I started channeling the group, some of
them actually stop being friendswith me.
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OK, so 25 years ago when we started channelling, channelling
was still fairly new. There was Lee Carroll, there was
there were there, there was Seth.
There was some really, really, really big names on this planet.
Jane Roberts. They were.
We can spend all day talking about those incredible people
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that have really done, of course, Edgar Cayce.
And you go back much further. You've got all these people like
Nostradamus. You've got many people who were
never considered to be channels that absolutely were Aristotle.
You've got a lot of people like that that got a lot of
information very quickly and wasable to use it in different ways
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to bring it through. Perfect.
So here's another thing, the group says you are creator
beings. What do you believe?
Do you believe that astrology works?
If you believe that astrology works and you're a creator
being, you're going to create the work for you.
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It's that simple. So to close anything off as a
pseudoscience, to close anythingoff as not perfect or just an
imitation of this is kind of ridiculous.
And I will also tell you in Light Master, many times the
group says we're going to hold something up for them.
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And I go, what are you talking about?
What do you mean you're going tohold something up for them?
And what they're talking about is that we are talking to
hundreds of super creative beings all over the world
through the Light Master class. And they say today we're going
to hold this up for them and we're going to give them this
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information. We're going to tell them to look
at this and they're creator beings and many of them will
create that. So sometimes we're telling
people here's a possibility. Do you believe this?
If you believe this, we can giveyou some energy around it.
We can show you how to ground it.
We can work with you in a different way and you can create
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it because you're a creator being.
It's that simple. Not not easy, but it's simple.
So these are the things that we really wanted to talk about
having to do with science and metaphysics.
I do not believe that we will ever get to a point, at least in
my lifetime, and I may not have that much time left, but the
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reality is we, I don't think we're going to get there right
away. The sciences are very specific
about their lines, their boundaries, where things and
where things are and how things are proven.
Very simple. They live up here, and that's
not wrong. We need to have the balance
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between this and this so they bring that side of it to it.
And like I said, I I'm into science all the time.
I'm always looking for the new aspects of things and new
discoveries of James Webb Telescope has opened up the
world of understanding and actually validated a whole bunch
of things the group's been saying for a whole bunch of
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years, like maybe time is an illusion.
A lot of things the group has been talking about are actually
starting to be validated by science.
Does that mean that science is going to read one of my books
and say, oh, here, here's somebody you'll have to read yet
no to to them, I'm a pseudoscience because I live
here. I don't live here.
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And if they want me to just bring you information, that's
not, that's not Steve. Steve lives here.
Steve loves the hard energy. Steve loves to make people
empowered and feel good. That's the whole purpose of us
coming together. That's the whole idea of what
we're we're doing here. And I think that's why the group
chose me to channel. So with this energy here, I
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wanted to bring this today and talk a little bit about this
because there's so much confusion about science and
metaphysics. Choose yourself.
And, you know, just because NeildeGrasse Tyson really angers me
sometimes, it doesn't mean that I can't get good information
from him, does it? It really doesn't.
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If you listen and you just go, oh, you know, this is for me.
I love this. Oh, he just said something is
not for me. So do you throw the whole baby
out with the bathwater or do youtake the pieces that resonate
with you? That's what the group says.
If you pick up something that isn't for you, it simply means
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it wasn't placed there for you, it was placed there for someone
else. You know, I, like I said, I do
have a little difficulty with the arrogance of some
scientists, with the incredible division.
And a lot of people are that waytoo, because the scientists
promote that many scientists, not all.
And there's so many scientists that have changed throughout
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their lifetimes. Carl Sagan, absolutely
incredible atheist to begin with, that fascinating what
happened to him during his lifetime and how he changed, how
he shifted a lot of his energy to open up to so many other
incredible things. So there's a lot of these things
that are taking place. We're going to see a lot more.
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We have massive discoveries, advancements, and technology in
sciences of all sorts that are going to be coming to this
planet over the next several years.
We see it already. The reality is, the last 75
years on this Earth have broughtmore advances in technology than
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any place has ever seen. Certainly much more advances in
technology than the thousands ofyears added up before us.
Why? Well, there's a whole bunch of
things, and we can get into thatin another podcast because
that's going to take some exclamation.
But the reality is we're going to see massive advances in
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technology, in sciences, in our understanding.
That's what this is. Do we need faster computers?
Do we need all that? Well, the race is on, isn't it?
Where AI is here, we're going tohave, you know, we're going to
the quantum computers where you used to take up a whole room
with a cooling system. Quantum computer, by the way, is
only the chip is only this big. It's just like a, it looks just
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like a regular ICU in a computer.
So it doesn't really look much difference, but it has to be
cool. So that's why all the equipment
is around it. Well, not anymore.
It just, it just happened fairlyrecently.
Google has talked about it. Other people have talked about
Google's actually put theirs on hold for the time being while
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some other things settled down because they're a little
concerned about what's taking place.
But it's not going to be long before quantum computing will be
available to everyone. It's available now, but it's
still pretty expensive. You can go to IB, Ms. Watson,
you can do a lot of other aspects to be able to get into
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Google's quantum computers and use them.
You can do a lot of things in that way to be able to use it a
little bit. But if it's in everybody's home,
if it's in everybody's pocket, like a cell phone, things are
going to get really interesting on this planet quickly.
Things are going to change. We know that the speed of the
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computers, which most people don't really care whether you
hit a button and it takes 30 microseconds or 300
microseconds, they don't really care.
It's not going to make that muchdifference.
But what if you had to had a computer that was looking to
find out what your passwords were and they were going to try
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all the combinations possible? Well, they can probably do it,
and sometimes it will take yearsof trying with all the
combinations, not with quantum computing, instantaneous.
And that's the difference. So our lives are going to change
drastically as the technology rises very quickly.
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The buzz is all about AI. Everybody's using AI.
It's wonderful in some ways. Is it scary?
Of course it is. We have a lot of changes and
things. We have no control over it, no
rules in place, and we don't even because most people don't
really know what it is, don't really know what the
capabilities of AI or quantum computing can do.
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But if you go, if you just look at our computers, our computers
are binary. They work on ones and zeros.
It's that simple. But thousands and thousands of
those will make up a letter, or maybe not thousands, but that'll
make up a line of code maybe, orsomething of that nature.
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When you have quantum computing,they have qubits, It's quite
different and they're variable. So instead of ones and zeros,
you got ones, zeros, 1 + 0, one minus 00011.
You've got unbelievable amounts of capabilities that are being
unleashed. All of the quantum computing, by
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the way, is based on quantum physics.
It's actually based on the the thing that the group has talked
about a lot, quantum entanglement, where two
particles are exactly the same. They move in opposite
directions. Most of the time that you move
one, the other moves instantaneously.
Not a lag, but instantaneously, even if they are millions of
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miles apart. So they're part of each other.
That's what the crypt says. I said you're connected that way
too. Humans are part of each other.
You're part of every tree, of every rock, of every insect that
walks around on the planet. You have just disconnected that
knowingness of that as you came to planet Earth to have this
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little incarnation. But if you become aware that you
are connected to things and actually try to tap into them,
you can start to feel them. Now back to the other subject.
Are you creating it or is it real?
The group says it doesn't make any difference.
It doesn't make any difference. If you can get something out of
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it, if it works, use it. And that's the aspect that we
wanted to bring you here today. So I am, I love science myself.
I, I study a lot of science. I, I, I get enthralled with
science sometimes. I have, I've learned that I
really can't watch it at night because I get, so the brain gets
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moving so fast I can't go to sleep.
So anyway, it's, it's, it's kindof fun stuff, but I've always
been very curious about how the rest of the world saw the
difference between metaphysics and science.
And I've heard channels talk about, oh, in the next 5 years,
it's all going to blend together.
I've heard spiritual people talking about, oh, we're being
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recognized. Science is recognizing our work
and all these other things. And I don't think so.
I think science is going to stayexactly where it is.
And it should, it absolutely should.
We need those straight lines. We absolutely need, we need the
curved lines too. We need the head and we need the
heart. And I will tell you when the
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group says, if you're trying to manifest anything, balance it
between your head and your heartand watch what the universe
returns for you. OK, I hope you enjoyed that
today. I, I thoroughly enjoyed being
with you here and kind of rambling a little bit about one
thing that really has, frustrates me sometimes and yet
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excites me at the same time. So the reality is we're on this
planet together. If we can work together and we
can honor the straight lines andwe can honor the curved lines
and we can honor the head and wecan honor the heart and blend a
few of them together. They live in different worlds.
The heart that the head does notfall in love.
Well, sometimes it sometimes addictions do.
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They live in the head, not in the heart.
But the reality is, if we can goback and forth, because that's
not really love, but the truth is if we can, sorry, I got a
little sidetracked with that. But the truth is, if we can
balance those two, we can walk through life with magic.
And that's what the group's message is all about.
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And we're going to use some science.
And you can call them, you can call us pseudoscience if you
want. I don't really care.
But the reality is we're blending it together and we're
using what we wish to use and validate our work, even
sometimes through sciences. I hope you enjoyed that today.
I, I really have enjoyed talkingwith you this way, sharing some
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of this information. I do have a lot more wonderful
interviews from some people. I think you'll enjoy
tremendously. If you are a presenter and you
have maybe a book out or have been presented in different
ways, especially in these areas.Give me a call.
We'll talk a spa, everybody. Thank you for being here.
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Thank you for being part of thisincredible planet at this
incredible time. It's time to step up.
It's time for all of us to startmaking a difference and blending
the head and the heart together as we walk through this planet.
Aspavo, thank you for taking your power.
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Music.
Music. Hi everybody, welcome.
I'm Steve Rother on the channel for the group here to spavo.org.
Welcome to the Back story podcast.
You know the the we started thispodcast a while back for a lot
of different reasons. Number one, we wanted a
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different way to be able to bring you pertinent information,
things that the group is saying.We're putting out a lot of
seminars, and sometimes I'll saysomething over here, they'll
repeat it in Light Master, or sometimes I'll say it in Light
Master and never repeat it again.
So this is an opportunity for meto just talk as Steve and be
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able to kind of give you my opinion and my view of some of
the things that group is saying.And then of course, we've been
doing a lot of wonderful interviews.
We've got some incredible light workers on this planet right now
and, and many of you are here orwhat we call awakening you're,
you're starting to move into a whole different environment
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where your passion becomes incredibly important.
So we wanted to introduce you toa bunch of people that have done
the same thing that it basicallystarted sometimes many of these
people have actually started in our seminars that we've done all
over the world for the last 15 or 20 years, 25 years.
I forgot how I don't even know how old I am.
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So it's OK. So today I want to talk about
something really, it's really kind of funny because this is a,
this is a really big important subject, especially to Steve
and, and partly because it was so confusing to me.
And it's still, it still is. But we've got some really
interesting things that are taking place globally about
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balancing science and metaphysics.
OK, so metaphysics are what I do.
I'm a channel. I speak to entities from the
other side of the veil. Science is a different
environment, entirely different than what we do here in those
areas. And yet I use a lot of science
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in the teaching. The group shows me things and
they'll say, look this up or check this out or see this.
And then I, I Google it, I come up with, you know, some quantum
physics experiment that just completely validates all the
things they're saying. So we have always been,
especially the last, I don't know, 10 years.
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We've been looking for this blend between science and
metaphysics to where we can see this in both directions and so
forth. And that's really what I want to
speak about today. That's the aspect that I want to
talk about here this day is the blend of spirituality and
science. Now I have to say hard and fast
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science scientists are going to cringe at the thought of those
two mixing and, and I'll talk a little bit about that.
And it's, it's really important to keep in mind no one's right
or no one's wrong, OK? We're both just like almost
everybody on Earth. We're trying to get to the same
place, but we're using differentmethods.
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That's all. So with that in mind, I want to
talk a little bit about that. Like I said, the group talks a
lot, especially, especially about quantum sciences, quantum
physics, quantum mechanics, about being able to use that
because it, it actually naturally validates a lot of
things. The group is talking about one
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of the things, just to give you a quick, for instance, the
double slit experiment in quantum physics.
I'm not going to go into the whole experiment.
It's not important. And I know many of you are not
technical, so I'm going to try and stay out of the technologies
today and the and too much of the of the sciences, but it
fascinates me. I've studied science.
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I, I get four or five science magazines in the bathroom all
the time. So yeah, I'm always reading and
watching documentaries and so forth on this stuff.
There's some incredible stuff out there, but in looking at
that, there's some really interesting things that are
taking place that I want to address.
When I first started channeling,channeling in general was
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feared. It was considered.
It was considered at that time awoo woo science.
That's basically what they called it.
And the funny part about it is we we talked about this in some
of our bigger seminars on the first day and we all joked about
being woo woo scientists and everything else.
We came back the next day with with little hats that said woo
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woo scientist, you know, all thedifferent things.
So the reality is we live in a different world.
And that's the key that the group wants to bring up today
about the different worlds that we live in, the different
aspects that we work in, and what that looks like having to
do with science and metaphysics.Now, there's a lot of people
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that are doing a really good jobof bringing these two together.
There's Greg Braden, there's there's a there's a whole slew
of people out there that are doing just a really good job of
this. And yet what I'm going to talk
about today is basically the thewhole function of science and
the function of metaphysics. OK, so here's here's the first
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aspect that I want to talk about, and it's from personal
experience. I'll tell you what motivated me
to do this. I watch a lot of documentaries.
I absolutely love the on prime. There is the Great Courses
series and I just, I'd love that.
It's not well produced, but it'sit's got a lot of good
information. It's got a lot of bad
information in it too. So you got to kind of go
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through, but that's life. Anyway, I watch a lot of
documentaries. I watch a lot of things I love
to kind of stir my mind and educate myself in different
ways. So it's it's fun.
In the meantime, I'm taking thiscourse and it's like 9 sessions
or something. It's fairly small course, but in
that it was called, it was called critical thinking.
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Well, I didn't really know what the words critical thinking
meant. But here I am taking this little
course and you know, it's 9 episodes about an hour and a
half each on critical thinking, what that is.
And they start talking about critical thinking and they start
talking about how the brain works and everything.
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All of which the group absolutely agrees with 100%.
I'm getting excited because they're going to show me some
new techniques about a tool for focusing our life energy and so
forth to be able to focus and, and not waste a lot of time and
everything else that we typically do.
So in this critical thinking, itbecame their little red flags
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kept coming up and the gentlemankept talking about what it was
like and what it was. And then at one point he said
something that was just just completely threw me off.
I had to stop watching at that point.
And he basically said, are you aperson who believes in space
beings and believes that people have been abducted and believes
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that the governments are hiding it?
If so, you're not a critical thinker.
Well, that it's like the group said, change a channel.
So I, I, I, I stopped right awayand, and left a little review
because to me, and what I said in the review was I said I was
really fascinated by what you were saying until you said this.
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There's not many astrophysicistsout there because
astrophysicists happened to knowa little bit about how big this
universe really is. We look at the stars in the sky
and we see all these. If you're in a place where you
can actually see them, we see all these incredible.
If you've ever been out in like the desert, I go out to Zion all
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the time, to Red Rock Canyon, todifferent places here in my part
of the world near Las Vegas and I, you can see, you can actually
see the Milky Way and it lights up the sky.
It when you can get away from the light pollution in a place
where it's fairly comfortable, you can see some really
beautiful things. But there's billions, and we
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call them stars. Many of those are galaxies with
billions of stars in them. With those kind of numbers.
For anybody to say that they know this is right and that
there's no other life in the universe, even if you don't
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believe in aliens, even if you don't believe any abductions.
He even referenced the lady in New York that was seen by a 40
or 50 people who was actually taken out of the building and
raised up in the sky. One of them happened to be the
mayor of one of the cities there.
So literally this was this was astab.
So to me, like I said, it was very close mindedness when he
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said those things because it basically means that we're a bit
arrogant, aren't we? And we believe we're the only
ones, are we? We, and we naturally believe
that we are the highest vibration of everything because
when we look at our, our situation on Earth, we are,
we're a higher vibration in the trees.
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We're a higher vibration than the, than the other animals, the
dogs, the cats, the horses, all the rest of it.
So we tend to think in those terms.
And I do believe that we get rather arrogant with a lot of
these belief systems. And me personally, I've had a
really hard time talking about aliens, about space beings,
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about some of the history. The group has no problem.
I will tell you that group has no problem talking about it.
It's Steve that has pulled a lotof that back.
I have no idea why I had so muchtrouble with it, but I did.
So anyway, I'm not trying to convince people of alien life or
anything during this podcast. Again, what I'm talking about is
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science versus metaphysics. OK, so let me bring it to a
different area. Science is very well defined,
very clear boundaries, very straight lines.
Jim Self calls that Jim Ko stuffcalls straight lines male, curvy
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lines female. I love that analogy.
So very straight lines, very, very specific, very hard and
fast rules and all about credentials.
In fact, this entire course series that I signed up for the,
the courses on, on Prime Video, there they spend the 1st 15
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minutes telling you all about the credentials.
And he's at this set and he's done this and he's, he's been
all around the world. Well, the reality is we don't
hear from many people who've wonNobel Prizes, who've won no
Nobel Prizes in science and physics in astrophysics or any
of these things. We just generally don't hear
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about it. There's a few people that step
forward. We've got Neil deGrasse Tyson,
an astrophysicist who comes forward.
We've got Mechio Kaku, one of myfavorite people.
I just really like his open mindedness.
Neil deGrasse Tyson, not so much.
Brian Greene. Yes, yeah.
Wonderful, wonderful scientists coming in with some of this
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information. Sometimes closed minded,
sometimes open it. It doesn't really make any
difference. It doesn't change what they're
presenting, but what it changed what it does is takes their
attitudes and brings it into thework sometimes, which kind of
taints it a little bit for me anyway.
So I will tell you right off thebat, I have no credentials.
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OK? So if, if that's really
important to you, you may want to change channels right now
because I have not. In fact, I didn't even go to
college. The reality is that the group
came in and started bringing me these things and I did a lot of
research in different areas. I'm fairly intelligent anyway,
but they, they brought a whole bunch of this information in and
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I just exploded in this energy. So for the past 2526 years now I
had her 27 years actually, I've been doing a lot of this work
and talking a lot about sciences.
We talked about the solar flares.
We talked about the solar cycles, what they do to the
Earth, the neutrinos. And I have to tell you, the
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group has a slightly different story than the than science.
We know, for instance, that whenwe have solar flares, when we
read, when we go into solar maximus every 12 years, that we
get pelted with these neutrinos.We know that because we have
neutrino counters all over the globe now, usually underground,
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usually in total darkness, as total as they can get.
And we know that we get pelted with neutrinos.
Neutrinos are so small that billions of them pass through
your body without ever having aneffect.
At least that's what science says.
Group says, no, sorry, they havean effect.
They not only have an effect with you, but they have an
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effect with the Earth. And they happen to say, by the
way, they're really good for theEarth.
So although you can get too manysolar flares, they've got their
electrical components, of course, they can knockout
shortwave radio signals, they can watch, they can put extra
charges in the electrical wires because it is a electricity,
which is magnet magnetism and electricity.
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And they can actually cause a lot of challenges in different
ways. But the group says celebrating
when they come in science is notsaying that.
Science is just saying, watch out.
You know, we we're going to havea solar player we're going to
hit and everything else. So it's a different approach in
different ways. So I will tell you that although
we do talk a lot about science, many times the group has a
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different opinion than many of the foremost scientists in the
world. The one that I really agree with
most is Michio Kaku. That's where I kind of really
enjoyed listening to him and hisopen mindedness.
He's absolutely incredible. The biggest thing that the group
says when all of their messages is that we are creator beings.
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That's not supported by science at all, at all.
So we live in different worlds, and that's the point of what I
want to talk about. We've been talking about the
blend of science and metaphysics.
From what the group tells me, wewill blend them together on the
outside, but science will never change.
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It can't. It lives in a totally different
world. Let's let me give you another
illustration. If we have a spiral of
electromagnetism, which the group says travels in spirals,
everybody else travels in waves.Actually the electrical wave
travels this way, the magnetic wave travels this way.
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Group says if you put it together it's actually a spiral.
Anyway, just interesting point. Electromagnetism are both part
of each other. The magnetism is in fact a part
of the electricity. Can you separate them?
Yes you can. You can use one without the
other. And yet they're both come from
the electromagnetic spectrum. So if we take this spiral and we
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just call it a circle for a moment and we measure it this
way, we have magnetism. If we measure it this way, we
have electricity. It's a good illustration the
group has been using for years, especially in light master
course. We've been talking a lot about
that. So with those two things, we're
going to take that to a next level and Simply put it, and I
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will tell you that again, Jim Self was the one who originally
came up with this information. But let's put that into the
physical human condition and saythat the head is electrical and
that the heart is magnetic. OK?
That's the difference between science and metaphysics.
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They live in different worlds. Can they work together?
Yes, if they don't ignore each other, if they don't devour,
devoid each other in different ways.
So that's the idea of this. This is electrical, this is
magnetic. Now should we blend them
together and make the head more magnetic?
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Well, you probably not. You need your head to be
thoughts, you need your head to be thinking.
And science lives up here, metaphysics live on here.
And that's the main difference. Spirituality is here, science is
here. Can I prove my spirituality up
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here? Not, no, you can't.
Have you ever tried it? One of the the, the greatest
thing that we have on this planet.
The group actually calls it the universal energy.
What? We'll get into much more of that
at another time. But basically they say we feel
that as love. So if love is one of the most
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important things on this planet,how come science has never
written about it? Science cannot quantify love.
It's very simple. It's not supposed to.
It lives down here, doesn't liveup here.
We we can fall in love up here. We can have our images that we
love to reflect. You know, you always fall in
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love with people that somewhat look like you and, and if you're
together a long time, you start looking like each other.
Have you ever seen those illustrations?
I was married to a very beautiful woman.
I'm the luckiest guy in the world.
That's true because I, I definitely wasn't beautiful.
So anyway, that's the idea of the differences.
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Now, I do believe that many times people get very locked
into their belief systems. And one of the biggest
challenges that I have about those differences and what
science refers to us as many times is pseudoscience.
That's really kind of a slap in the face, isn't it?
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I mean, we could call them pseudo metaphysics, couldn't we?
I mean, you know, really, if you're talking about the double
slit experiment, you talk about the fan, the fact that if you
turn off the cameras and you stop watching that experiment,
it changes. Are you a creator being or what
the group says? If you ever see any experiment,
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any double-blind experiment, anydouble-blind study, they try to
go out of it, and they are always influenced by the person
who decided to do that study in the first place.
Even if they have nothing to do with setting it up or nothing to
do with the testing or the running of the system.
They influence it because you'rea creator being.
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So that's part of the differencebetween science and metaphysics.
Science is going to be on simple, factual, observable
items, which is great. We need that.
Absolutely needed. And yet.
Why do we have so many religionson the world?
Why do we have so many religiouspeople on the planet?
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And I know most hardline scientists are absolutely not
religious. They're not only not religious,
they're not spiritual. And that's really a shame.
So here, here we are again at the difference.
It's an interesting aspect the the study and everything else
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important. Of course, you can study
metaphysics, you can get degreesand different aspects of
religion, all the theology that's out there and all the
billions of opportunities that you have to work in those areas.
And they're both highly respected.
It's kind of funny, but because the religious person is more
highly respected in the scientific community if they
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have this long list of degrees. So there we go again, back to
the back to the degrees, back tothe validation.
OK, now let's get back to one that word that really bothers
me, and that's the pseudoscience.
What do they call pseudo? Well, they call astrology
pseudoscience. So let's just take astrology for
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just a moment. Humans used to look at the sky.
They'd see these beautiful things and imagine that that was
a dog. Imagine that this was something
else. Imagine that this was a fish and
and be able to do that. And then of course, all the
stories behind it. It could just be that they're
channeling. Obviously I'm open to that
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because I am a channel myself. That's how I get my information.
That's how this comes through me.
Do I pretend to know more than ascientist?
No, not in their world. I know more about metaphysics.
I know more about spirituality probably than most of them.
But it's not a race and we're not comparing each other.
That's not the idea. The idea is to stimulate and
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maybe work together. That's the beautiful part of
this whole aspect that I get very excited about.
South, spirituality and metaphysics do not blend
together. They live in different worlds.
You're not going to be able to quantify different things in
science unless you let go of some belief systems that you may
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have in metaphysics. And the reverse is also true.
Now, is it wrong? Does it, Is it wrong that we're
different and we're not going toblend to get, no, it's not
wrong. We need the scientists to be
very specific in their realm. It would be wonderful if they
can say, well, here's what we'vediscovered.
And we, and we don't go into here because we've had trouble
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with this before. So we draw a line right here and
we, and here's what we've discovered.
And over here, metaphysics says,well, we don't have lines, we
have curves, and our curves go around in different ways to be
able to see things in different ways.
So again, living in different realities.
And it's not wrong. It's absolutely not wrong.
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So when you see these different things that are taking place,
you have so many wonderful people out there that I love to
listen to and so forth. But at certain points I have to
turn it off. I just cannot take the close
mindedness and the arrogance of sciences.
Some scientists in this world and at the same time, if they're
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not putting us down, they say, you know, this could be, well,
that's perfect. Now let's go back to astrology
for a second. Does astrology work?
Not 100%. I don't know any astrologist
that does that. Astrology isn't meant to give
you a specific guideline of everything that works every
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time. Astrology, at least in my
experience, has always been about here's a path down here.
And if you follow this, you can you can go in this direction and
here's your natural tendencies according to the stars.
And here's what's coming on the planet according to the stars.
Allison Chester Lambert, the astrologist here at Hispano for
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so many years, it was incrediblyaccurate.
People love to was it specific? Did she say On this date, this
is going to happen? Well, she she did she say On
this date, this changes and thismoves into this, this house and
this shifts and this is going tocause this to change and so
forth. But she didn't make specifically
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accurate predictions that would have been more accepted in
science. Why?
Again, in metaphysics, we tend to work with the curvy lines
instead of the straight ones. We tend to be a little bit more
open in different areas to be able to accept different things
in different ways. That to me is where I like to
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live. Now that's just me.
Scientists are over here and I Iknow some sciences scientists in
my own field and friends of minethat are hard line scientists.
And 25 years ago when I started channeling the group, some of
them actually stop being friendswith me.
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OK, so 25 years ago when we started channelling, channelling
was still fairly new. There was Lee Carroll, there was
there were there, there was Seth.
There was some really, really, really big names on this planet.
Jane Roberts. They were.
We can spend all day talking about those incredible people
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that have really done, of course, Edgar Cayce.
And you go back much further. You've got all these people like
Nostradamus. You've got many people who were
never considered to be channels that absolutely were Aristotle.
You've got a lot of people like that that got a lot of
information very quickly and wasable to use it in different ways
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to bring it through. Perfect.
So here's another thing, the group says you are creator
beings. What do you believe?
Do you believe that astrology works?
If you believe that astrology works and you're a creator
being, you're going to create the work for you.
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It's that simple. So to close anything off as a
pseudoscience, to close anythingoff as not perfect or just an
imitation of this is kind of ridiculous.
And I will also tell you in Light Master, many times the
group says we're going to hold something up for them.
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And I go, what are you talking about?
What do you mean you're going tohold something up for them?
And what they're talking about is that we are talking to
hundreds of super creative beings all over the world
through the Light Master class. And they say today we're going
to hold this up for them and we're going to give them this
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information. We're going to tell them to look
at this and they're creator beings and many of them will
create that. So sometimes we're telling
people here's a possibility. Do you believe this?
If you believe this, we can giveyou some energy around it.
We can show you how to ground it.
We can work with you in a different way and you can create
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it because you're a creator being.
It's that simple. Not not easy, but it's simple.
So these are the things that we really wanted to talk about
having to do with science and metaphysics.
I do not believe that we will ever get to a point, at least in
my lifetime, and I may not have that much time left, but the
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reality is we, I don't think we're going to get there right
away. The sciences are very specific
about their lines, their boundaries, where things and
where things are and how things are proven.
Very simple. They live up here, and that's
not wrong. We need to have the balance
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between this and this so they bring that side of it to it.
And like I said, I I'm into science all the time.
I'm always looking for the new aspects of things and new
discoveries of James Webb Telescope has opened up the
world of understanding and actually validated a whole bunch
of things the group's been saying for a whole bunch of
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years, like maybe time is an illusion.
A lot of things the group has been talking about are actually
starting to be validated by science.
Does that mean that science is going to read one of my books
and say, oh, here, here's somebody you'll have to read yet
no to to them, I'm a pseudoscience because I live
here. I don't live here.
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And if they want me to just bring you information, that's
not, that's not Steve. Steve lives here.
Steve loves the hard energy. Steve loves to make people
empowered and feel good. That's the whole purpose of us
coming together. That's the whole idea of what
we're we're doing here. And I think that's why the group
chose me to channel. So with this energy here, I
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wanted to bring this today and talk a little bit about this
because there's so much confusion about science and
metaphysics. Choose yourself.
And, you know, just because NeildeGrasse Tyson really angers me
sometimes, it doesn't mean that I can't get good information
from him, does it? It really doesn't.
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If you listen and you just go, oh, you know, this is for me.
I love this. Oh, he just said something is
not for me. So do you throw the whole baby
out with the bathwater or do youtake the pieces that resonate
with you? That's what the group says.
If you pick up something that isn't for you, it simply means
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it wasn't placed there for you, it was placed there for someone
else. You know, I, like I said, I do
have a little difficulty with the arrogance of some
scientists, with the incredible division.
And a lot of people are that waytoo, because the scientists
promote that many scientists, not all.
And there's so many scientists that have changed throughout
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their lifetimes. Carl Sagan, absolutely
incredible atheist to begin with, that fascinating what
happened to him during his lifetime and how he changed, how
he shifted a lot of his energy to open up to so many other
incredible things. So there's a lot of these things
that are taking place. We're going to see a lot more.
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We have massive discoveries, advancements, and technology in
sciences of all sorts that are going to be coming to this
planet over the next several years.
We see it already. The reality is, the last 75
years on this Earth have broughtmore advances in technology than
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any place has ever seen. Certainly much more advances in
technology than the thousands ofyears added up before us.
Why? Well, there's a whole bunch of
things, and we can get into thatin another podcast because
that's going to take some exclamation.
But the reality is we're going to see massive advances in
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technology, in sciences, in our understanding.
That's what this is. Do we need faster computers?
Do we need all that? Well, the race is on, isn't it?
Where AI is here, we're going tohave, you know, we're going to
the quantum computers where you used to take up a whole room
with a cooling system. Quantum computer, by the way, is
only the chip is only this big. It's just like a, it looks just
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like a regular ICU in a computer.
So it doesn't really look much difference, but it has to be
cool. So that's why all the equipment
is around it. Well, not anymore.
It just, it just happened fairlyrecently.
Google has talked about it. Other people have talked about
Google's actually put theirs on hold for the time being while
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some other things settled down because they're a little
concerned about what's taking place.
But it's not going to be long before quantum computing will be
available to everyone. It's available now, but it's
still pretty expensive. You can go to IB, Ms. Watson,
you can do a lot of other aspects to be able to get into
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Google's quantum computers and use them.
You can do a lot of things in that way to be able to use it a
little bit. But if it's in everybody's home,
if it's in everybody's pocket, like a cell phone, things are
going to get really interesting on this planet quickly.
Things are going to change. We know that the speed of the
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computers, which most people don't really care whether you
hit a button and it takes 30 microseconds or 300
microseconds, they don't really care.
It's not going to make that muchdifference.
But what if you had to had a computer that was looking to
find out what your passwords were and they were going to try
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all the combinations possible? Well, they can probably do it,
and sometimes it will take yearsof trying with all the
combinations, not with quantum computing, instantaneous.
And that's the difference. So our lives are going to change
drastically as the technology rises very quickly.
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The buzz is all about AI. Everybody's using AI.
It's wonderful in some ways. Is it scary?
Of course it is. We have a lot of changes and
things. We have no control over it, no
rules in place, and we don't even because most people don't
really know what it is, don't really know what the
capabilities of AI or quantum computing can do.
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But if you go, if you just look at our computers, our computers
are binary. They work on ones and zeros.
It's that simple. But thousands and thousands of
those will make up a letter, or maybe not thousands, but that'll
make up a line of code maybe, orsomething of that nature.
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When you have quantum computing,they have qubits, It's quite
different and they're variable. So instead of ones and zeros,
you got ones, zeros, 1 + 0, one minus 00011.
You've got unbelievable amounts of capabilities that are being
unleashed. All of the quantum computing, by
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the way, is based on quantum physics.
It's actually based on the the thing that the group has talked
about a lot, quantum entanglement, where two
particles are exactly the same. They move in opposite
directions. Most of the time that you move
one, the other moves instantaneously.
Not a lag, but instantaneously, even if they are millions of
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miles apart. So they're part of each other.
That's what the crypt says. I said you're connected that way
too. Humans are part of each other.
You're part of every tree, of every rock, of every insect that
walks around on the planet. You have just disconnected that
knowingness of that as you came to planet Earth to have this
(35:44):
little incarnation. But if you become aware that you
are connected to things and actually try to tap into them,
you can start to feel them. Now back to the other subject.
Are you creating it or is it real?
The group says it doesn't make any difference.
It doesn't make any difference. If you can get something out of
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it, if it works, use it. And that's the aspect that we
wanted to bring you here today. So I am, I love science myself.
I, I study a lot of science. I, I, I get enthralled with
science sometimes. I have, I've learned that I
really can't watch it at night because I get, so the brain gets
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moving so fast I can't go to sleep.
So anyway, it's, it's, it's kindof fun stuff, but I've always
been very curious about how the rest of the world saw the
difference between metaphysics and science.
And I've heard channels talk about, oh, in the next 5 years,
it's all going to blend together.
I've heard spiritual people talking about, oh, we're being
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recognized. Science is recognizing our work
and all these other things. And I don't think so.
I think science is going to stayexactly where it is.
And it should, it absolutely should.
We need those straight lines. We absolutely need, we need the
curved lines too. We need the head and we need the
heart. And I will tell you when the
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group says, if you're trying to manifest anything, balance it
between your head and your heartand watch what the universe
returns for you. OK, I hope you enjoyed that
today. I, I thoroughly enjoyed being
with you here and kind of rambling a little bit about one
thing that really has, frustrates me sometimes and yet
(37:33):
excites me at the same time. So the reality is we're on this
planet together. If we can work together and we
can honor the straight lines andwe can honor the curved lines
and we can honor the head and wecan honor the heart and blend a
few of them together. They live in different worlds.
The heart that the head does notfall in love.
Well, sometimes it sometimes addictions do.
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They live in the head, not in the heart.
But the reality is, if we can goback and forth, because that's
not really love, but the truth is if we can, sorry, I got a
little sidetracked with that. But the truth is, if we can
balance those two, we can walk through life with magic.
And that's what the group's message is all about.
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And we're going to use some science.
And you can call them, you can call us pseudoscience if you
want. I don't really care.
But the reality is we're blending it together and we're
using what we wish to use and validate our work, even
sometimes through sciences. I hope you enjoyed that today.
I, I really have enjoyed talkingwith you this way, sharing some
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of this information. I do have a lot more wonderful
interviews from some people. I think you'll enjoy
tremendously. If you are a presenter and you
have maybe a book out or have been presented in different
ways, especially in these areas.Give me a call.
We'll talk a spa, everybody. Thank you for being here.
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Thank you for being part of thisincredible planet at this
incredible time. It's time to step up.
It's time for all of us to startmaking a difference and blending
the head and the heart together as we walk through this planet.
Aspavo, thank you for taking your power.
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