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Music. Hi, everybody, welcome, welcome.
Welcome to the back story podcast.
You know, we've, we, we followeda lot of people.
I've interviewed some people I thought you would be very
interested in in hearing from and being able to connect with.
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We try to interview people that are really on your level that
you can see how they've advancedin incredible ways and and what
that's really about because we know most of you are he healers
and teachers in your own right. And we try to provide that space
for you. One of the people that has been
a big part of the Virtual Life broadcast for the last almost 10
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years who's really done some incredible work on the globe is
Allison Chester Lambert. And I'm very honored to have
Allison with us today. She's an astrologer.
She's used to bring regular astrology readings to the
Virtual Life broadcast every month.
She's done some incredible work with a lot of people.
She's also fairly well known forbeing the BBC astrologer.
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She's done a lot of work on BBC with different people and even
working in politics to see a lotof people are doing in politics.
So anyway, I wanted to welcome, welcome, welcome Allison back.
Welcome Allison. Glad you're here.
Well, thank you, Steve. It's absolutely my honor to be
back. It really is.
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It is really being welcomed backto the family fold.
Oh, absolutely. Well, you never, you never go
too far. We always, we always try to keep
track of it. So.
So tell me what you're doing. I mean, you, I I know you've
wrote a book not that long ago. You've you've done a lot of
information in the meantime. Tell me, tell me what's going on
with you. OK, so my publisher asked me to
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write this book. Actually, they, their research
had shown them that astrology books were getting bigger.
And so they said, could you write an astrology book?
And I said, I've been waiting for years to write an astrology
book, but I had to do it in six months.
So I had to drop the virtual live broadcast and everything
else and just totally focus on writing this book.
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Beautiful. The easy way to learn astrology.
It's very cheap, it's available on Amazon or wherever, and it
really, really does teach you ina very gentle way the beginnings
of astrology so that you can make some headway.
So get that. It's backed up by astro.com.
I've teamed up with astro.com and they will provide you with
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the facilities to make up the charts to go with the book.
And there is also a Facebook page entitled the easy way to
learn astrology. So you can have you can sort of
chat on there and ask questions on there as well.
So I did that and I then thought, right, what I, I not a
huge fan of Facebook myself. I find it a bit complicated
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these days, but YouTube I'm really getting to love again.
So I picked up my old channel, Alice and Chester Lambert, still
there, but and I'm now doing almost daily videos.
So I'm doing a bit of prediction, I'm doing a bit of
tuition, I'm doing a bit of cosmic insight and it's coming
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along nicely. You know, there's a few 100
people, but that's much better because it means we can all sort
of chat and everything. That's what I'm doing.
And my readings have never stopped.
My readings just keep going. Keep.
Going word of mouth. Good, good, good.
Yeah. We've talked to quite a few
people that have done readings with you.
So I, I, I know that first hand.We, we, we have a lot of people
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that do readings with me and have done readings with you.
So it's been been incredible. Yeah.
Absolutely. Well, magical.
And you've you've you've you started to tell me that the next
few years are going to be huge and you want to give us kind of
an overview of what's going on. Yeah. 2025 This is all all, all
sort of gathered around 2025 I've made-up if you hopefully
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you can show people I made-up a table, a document that I want to
describe to you, talk you through because I'd like people
to see something here that just see the importance.
So this is the outer planets andthey're moving through Zodiac
signs in the following years. 20242526 through to 29.
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And then down the left hand column we've got the big outer
planets. So we've got Pluto, Neptune,
Uranus, Satin, Chiron. Now I want to sort of just to
give you some background. These guys don't change signs
that often. I mean, certainly with Pluto
you've got 248 years to go around the Earth.
So it will spend 30 to 40 years in a sign.
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Neptune will spend easily 20 years etcetera, 50 years for
Chiron. So this it doesn't happen that
often. So the most peculiar thing is in
2025 surrounding 2025 all of them are changing sign.
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So Pluto has already jumped. So he moved early and I think
Pluto is just sort of leading the way.
So Pluto is has moved from Capricorn into Aquarius and will
remain in Aquarius for a couple of decades.
Neptune is coming to the end of Pisces.
We'll move into Aries. Pisces again.
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Those are the glyphs for those Zodiac signs.
And then Aries and then just carries on Uranus coming out of
Taurus, moving into Gemini, going back into Taurus and then
back into Gemini again. And off you go.
Saturn moving from Pisces into Aries back into Pisces back into
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Aries and then change the sign again in 2028, and then Chiron.
I especially want to make note of Chiron.
It's not an outer planet, but it's going to become very
important in the coming year. So Chiron's moving from Aries
into Taurus, then Aries back into Taurus.
Now look at the amount of activity around 2025 just.
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Kidding. Just look at the changes in 2025
exactly. I mean, look at the amount of
activity in 2028. Nothing.
I mean it's like, oh, at the endof 2028 sat and moved sign to
get. I have never in 30 years of
doing this, I have never seen this.
Never. What do you interpret?
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Does that just mean drastic change in all areas?
When what it? Yeah, it, it does.
It means a massive sweeping paradigm shift, if you like.
It means that the, that the, the, you know, that, that the
atmospheric tsunami is, is is entering.
And I don't see it as a bad thing.
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I don't see it as a negative thing.
Absolutely. To the contrary.
What I do see is a lot of emphasis on the element of air.
So Pluto moving into Aquarius, we we're looking at a lot of
change into higher communication, higher
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consciousness. That's what I see.
What do you think? No, that's exactly what that's
exactly what the group says. There's group says there's a lot
of people going to be waking up,a lot of new people that will be
moving into the energy asking, looking for higher, you know,
higher wisdom and so forth to beable to do that.
So yeah, they absolutely agree with this.
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All right, I've got a question. Excuse my ignorance, but what is
Chiron? So Chiron is a bit of a, an
oddball, right? So it, it's, it doesn't really
have any particular category. It's called one of the centaurs,
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but it's a group of rocks that wander around between Satin and
Uranus. And they, they kind of wander
around and, and they came into the solar system late and they,
they, they have peculiarities, which means they're not planets,
they're not asteroids. They don't know what to call
them. So they just call them centaurs.
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So Chiron represents the wounds that make us wise.
It's, it's in myth. He is wounded in the thigh.
And although he heals everybody,he's really good at healing.
He's the top healer in Olympus. When he gets wounded, he cannot
mend his own wound. He cannot fix it.
And said there's an irony there about a permanent wound that
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can't be fixed. And I think it's, it's very
particular to humanity and humanity's sins and wounds and
difficulties and pain. And what it teaches us is that
actually you are learning through all this.
You are gaining where there's pain is gained.
And it it's a sensitive part of us in astrology, but it's also
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the part of us that once we growinto acceptance and maturity is
very much the higher teacher in US.
Interesting. So with all these, all these,
all these planets, including Chiron, is that how you
pronounce it, Chiron? Chiron Yeah, well, I'm.
Looking, yeah, including including Chiron.
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And is that part of the asteroidbelt?
Is that what that is? It it, the planets are the the
outer Kuiper Belt. So you'll find them in the
Kuiper Belt and you'll find themjust way out in the solar system
beyond the normal planets, that being at the Mars that they're
right out there anyway. So the emphasis is on a change
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of element into the air element because we've got Uranus moving
into Gemini and we've got Pluto moving into Aquarius.
So the the air element becomes very active.
It already represents communication, et cetera.
But this amount of movement, because when planets enter
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Zodiac signs, they change the Zodiac sign, right?
And so, so they, it's like they mature it or they, they go
through it and they test it and they route out all the things
that needed changing and they, they purify it, if you like.
So I it looks as if the Zodiac sign of Aquarius at the moment
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is actually changing its nature,shifting, it's growing so that
we can see further there. There is a, a, an outer limit to
our consciousness which hasn't been breached for a long, long
time. But it's as if an outer layer is
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being lifted and Aquarius has tobe the Zodiac sign which is
describing this. Because Steve, we, we, we will
always need an astrology to describe what's coming.
We don't actually need astrologyto tell us things are changing.
We can see that for ourselves. But.
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We do need an astrology to describe it so that we can
understand it. So the Zedek sign of Aquarius is
almost growing. It's the a veil is being lifted
and we are seeing further than we've ever seen before.
And those people with a lot of Aquarius in their chart are
becoming very insightful and prophetic in within that Zodiac
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sign, within themselves. They are.
They're in touch with energies which they are saying it's
unlike an energy that I've neverknown before it.
It has a kind of a plasma feel or a higher communication feel.
It's sort of like trying to describe a mobile phone 200
years ago. So I'm not much good at
describing it, but probably you've got this better than me.
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I, I certainly understand what you're saying.
Reaching, reaching those outer limits is really a challenging
sometimes. Well, tell me about, tell me
about all the explosion that we're seeing in technology.
Is this part of what you're whatyou're predicting here?
Is this absolutely. So this, I mean, Oh my God, this
is yeah, definitely. I mean, we can go back 30 years
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and say, OK, for the last 30 years technology has been
gathering at a huge pace, you know, computer programming and
power of computers, he's doubling every 18 months, et
cetera, et cetera. We were just laughing earlier
actually when before we started recording about we need an 8
year old to tell us how to work the equipment to ageing people
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like us going we. Couldn't figure out.
We couldn't figure out. I I built computers and I
couldn't figure that out. So.
So. Funny, you're right about the 8
year old. We need one.
Yeah, so, but anyway, so moving into the age of Aquarius and I
think we have to say this, that we are definitely in the age of
Aquarius, but I also see something else and it has to do
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with the rise of the feminine. I the rise of the feminine it it
it has been clear really in moveplanetary movements.
You could have predicted it from20/15/2016 and I did that on
your show. Actually, we showed a table just
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like that from 2015 through to 2024, and in 2015 we discussed
the rise of just. Catching up now.
Yeah, I did another one for Steve, brother.
That's very fast. So just catching up now.
Anyway, so the rise of the feminine, we can see this in the
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virus. So the pandemic, because the
feminine always wants to stop growth, inhibit, draw things in.
It's like gravity. So masculine pushes out, gravity
pulls in, feminine pulls in. Well, what happened during the
pandemic? Everything stopped and we pulled
in and we relocalised and we deglobalised this, This is
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feminine stuff. And then we saw giant ships
blocking, massive shipping canals holding up, you know,
ships, all this. Wherever you see the blocking
and the stopping of growth and consumerism, et cetera, the
feminine is pulling us back. And really what it wants to do
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is slow down the the planet cannot keep up with the amount
of massive growth absolutely masculine is taking us in now.
That we're at 8 billion that's exactly correct having a
difficult time with it. So let me explain what the group
has said about this because I think it fits right into it.
They basically said that the feminine has been rising.
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It's been rising for years. And to balance the masculine,
feminine is the is the challenging part about it.
But we've also seen a huge amount of masculine energy see
this coming in and try to take over and basically try to stop
the feminine rising, try to stopand really just kind of grab
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hold of everything, which is whywe've seen so many turnovers and
so much change going on politically as well as it is a
lot of different areas. A lot of this is actually the
masculine energy overreacting and and bringing it through in
different ways. So do you see a a resolution to
that or what? What is it all up in the air?
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I watched the politics in the USA in 2024, the election with
absolute bated breath like everybody else, because these
two gladiators were in action, weren't they?
I mean, right down to the wire, you know, there's the feminine
icon and there's the masculine icon.
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And I mean, what an incredible, you know, like pow, pow, pow
from both sides. It was astonishing.
And that just in itself really is illustrating what you're
talking about, you know, so they're they're fighting back.
Now we know if we look at our mythology going, we could look
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at Greek mythology going back tothe Titans.
We couldn't, you know, that there was the mythology about
the Titans. There is always going to be a
duality. There's always going to be
conflict between the masculine and the feminine, the emitter
and the receiver. And it is time for the rise of
the feminine. Absolutely.
And so this is cool, you know, you know, it's all good, but the
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masculine is not giving up, is it?
It's, it's like, no, I can't. I want to keep, you know, all my
power. So, so, but my money's on the
feminine because, because at theend of the day, when I, when I
kind of take, when I, when I look at spiritual beliefs going
back thousands of years, most especially to Egypt.
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I've started studying Egyptology, by the way.
So not content with a master's degree in astrology and
astronomy, I'm now on my Egyptology.
But anyway, but going back to Egypt and going back to a lot of
the cultures around that easternend of the Mediterranean
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thousands of years ago, up to 10,000 years ago, it is clear
that the original stuff before this dimension, before The Big
Bang, before anything, the original stuff the the Maya, if
you like, Maya is feminine. First was the darkness, first
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was the feminine that is the primordial material.
Masculine happened to feminine, masculine arrived with sunshine,
if you like, or light and awoke the feminine and stimulated the
feminine into growth. It's how we balance those two
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things and as everybody knows, patriarchy for the last 2000
years has been the dominant 1. So it is time for the feminine
or yin to rise up and to slow everything down so the planet
can keep up. Now every time I think yes this
is happening, I see another newsstory which knocks it back.
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So in in the UK, just briefly, we've just had an election.
So the party politics have changed.
And so now we're in with a different political party and
they have just spent time telling the population that on
this tiny island in the next three years, we're going to
build another 1,500,000 or something in enormous anyway
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amount of houses. And quote from the woman in
charge of all this is it doesn'tmatter about newts or bats or
birds and protecting their habitat.
We cannot protect them in the face of wanting more houses.
Oh wow, Oh my God, you know, that just takes us that hits the
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feminine right where it you know, that's nature.
Mother Nature is not going to behappy with this.
And so going into 2025 with thissort of balance.
Is, is just fascinating stuff. I, I believe that it's time for
the Birmingham and then surely, you know, it must start to be,
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become more prevalent, it must start to make more of impact,
but I can't see it yet. Well, and we're and we're still,
we're still using third dimensional rules.
We're still using the old systems and the old ways of
looking at things. You know, it's, it's, it's
really challenging to even compare this.
But the way the group talks about the feminine masculine,
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they basically say that the feminines about harmony works
through harmony in a different way.
The masculine works through force.
So you actually need both in your world, but the dominant one
has always been the masculine one on earth.
Not every place, but on Earth, this has been one of the one of
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the things that we're trying to change.
And as that feminine rises, as she starts to actually grass
hold and take power, the masculine reacts and does some
crazy things and figures out a way to force it back down again
for the time being. But eventually I do believe
we're going to see the feminine rise and, and this is not male
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and female we're talking about. We're talking about the the
whole feminine energy in a, in adifferent ways.
It's pretty. Big yin and Yang, yeah.
Yeah, the yin and Yang, exactly.To be able to balance that
energy. So exciting times ahead.
Absolutely. Yeah.
And I think another thing is I think we are going to talk to
aliens. Well, now the group that.
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You know, I've had hesitation about talking about aliens.
They actually wrote about some aliens in the very first book
that I wrote. But Steve has had this huge
hesitation and they finally pushed me past it.
I'm finally talking about what'sgoing on.
It had a lot to do with our election that we just had here
in the United States. We've had a lot of undue
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influence from places we were not expecting that influence to
come from. We've, we were seeing, we're
seeing a, a gathering trying to get us all together under one
religion, which I think is very dangerous basically.
Well, this is kind of what happened before to us.
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According to the group, The group said there was a, a group
of aliens that wanted to take care of humans and they created
this great spot for the humans and the humans live there.
It was a, it was a Garden of Eden and basically Eve bit the
apple, which means that the feminine energy rose, which
basically means that we got, we broke the bonds of that.
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We were told that it was a sacred place and we could live
there forever and have all our needs taken care of.
But we didn't have any freedom. We couldn't evolve the way we
wanted to evolve. So I think we're seeing
something very similar take place right now, but I don't
think it'll be successful. A short term yes, long term no.
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So it's going to be going to be a lot of transition going on in
the next few years. Absolutely.
Your charts are that's, that's amazing.
That is absolutely amazing that all these things are changing in
in the year 2025. Yeah, the, the promise of the
very extreme Kuiper Belt planets, the dwarf planets, the
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new ones that were discovered this century, right.
The promise of those is space travel is pioneering in the same
way that pioneering occurred in the 18th century around the
Pacific. The, the that that pioneering
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energy is emerging again. And, and so it, it takes us,
it's, it's like humans are a curious race who can't stop from
exploring. Now masculine, feminine, the,
the masculine part of us as, as we both know, so masculine moves
in straight lines, feminine moves in curves.
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And so the masculine part of us wants to get on that spaceship
and go in that direction for as long as possible to just keep
exploring. And the feminine is more content
to evolve slowly. So Pluto, a feminine planet is
all about evolution, which is slow evolving, right?
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Uranus, masculine planet, all about revolution.
So masculine wants to have a revolution quickly, and feminine
wants to have an evolution slowly, slowly.
Interesting. That's a great way to put it.
That's a great way to put it. That's fascinating.
Fascinating, but in our lifetimes, I don't think we're
going to see the results. No, I, I, I think so.
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I think we're, I think we have a, we have a long stretch in
front of us here to be able to get through some of this stuff
that we're into because it's, it's been really interesting to
see. But there's some good news with
it too. I've been though, I think we
have, we have a fair amount of interference from some of our
space parental being, some of our parental races.
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Actually, we also have a lot of good going on.
And they have stopped World War three before, but as it started
out, they've stopped it, they stopped it several times.
So I'm very confident that we have at least some safeguards in
place with, with our space brothers because they're not
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all, they're not all bad. They're not all trying to take
us over. There's, there's different areas
and different ones that we're dealing with.
So anyway that that's some good news with the whole thing too.
I think we're also being taken care of and they're very
concerned about the earth. Almost every, every set of
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beings that I see, that's one oftheir first messages is we need
to take care of the earth. We need to preserve the earth,
we need to heal the earth and bring that back and into, into,
into unity again. So yeah, going to be a going to
be a wild ride, isn't it? We have a very unique position
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with regard to the contribution that we can make.
I think as far as the cosmos is concerned, each one of us, when
we, when we tussle with things, when we struggle, when you know,
when we go through all the agonies that we go through, we
are teaching our soul. Our soul is learning.
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And when we go home, as you would say, and, and the mind
part departs, the spirit departs, the soul departs that
the body ashes to ashes. The, the information that the
soul takes and gives to the great soul lake improves the
quality of that soul lake. And as more people are born and
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pull a bit of that off and put it in the next baby, it's
raising consciousness, soul consciousness.
And so nothing is ever lost. It's, it's, there's a general
overall improvement and and thatgives me comfort.
Oh, it's a beautiful way to put it.
That is that is really interesting too, because it it
isn't lost it go it gets hidden sometimes, but for the most
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part, we've we we can we gain everything that we do.
So tell me, tell me one other piece here.
You're talking about all this change, the things that are
going on in 2025. The group has been predicting a
bit of a financial reset or collapse, if you will, and
they've actually been predictingthat for a couple of years now.
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And it's been postponed for one reason or another, hidden or
shoved under the cover. Tell me, tell me what you think.
What what do you think from the stars?
What does that look like? I absolutely agree with you that
there has been a a slow car crash.
A slow car crash. That's a great way to put it.
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In terms of the banking system and finances, I think that
behind closed doors the hierarchies, the elites, have
been either making it worse or better.
I think there is a general agreement that it could be such
a, a hugely disastrous thing forso many people that I think the,
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the elites kind of join togetherin supporting each other and
keeping it hush, hush hush. But I think there's, there's, I
think we're all bankrupt. I think the the, the, the COVID
thing cost billions and billions.
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Which? Where's that come?
Where's it come from? I think the only the reset I
think is right. So every single bank in the
world which owes every other bank in the world and keeps
owing every other bank. The reset is let's cancel all
debt start at zero. It's you know, are they going to
reach that? There's, there's, there's
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something of a struggle, a higher struggle going on.
And again, it can be seen in thechanges, the huge changes in
these outer planets, changing Zodiac sign.
It's it comes like, OK, well, we've we've struggled.
We've tried everything to do that that hasn't worked.
OK, we'll do we'll either we plan a reset or a reset arrives
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in in the in the name of a a virus or a ship jamming up a it
wouldn't take much to. To set.
Up. It wouldn't take much at all.
So I absolutely get that it's there and it's on a precipice
and it's a slow car crash. The I think that it's rather
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like rearranging the deck chairson the Titanic.
I think what we need to do is change the course of the Titanic
and I and I and I actually thinkthat this is what all this
movement is about. I think it's just getting us
just out, oh, missed that one, just out of the way in time,
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which is OK, that's good stuff. But have we learned the lesson
that's like? That's the big question.
Have we, did we, have we learnedenough to move forward with that
that that's. Going to be the relocalize de
globalize I think with if I'm ifI'm sort of pushed into a corner
and sort of thumb screwed down and said, OK, what do you think?
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I think science is going to pipsqueak just about get us out
of this. I think they're going to make
some kind of scientific breakthroughs and advancements
in the area of the mind and the area of the intellect.
Now, whether it's sort of, you know, astral planning or, you
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know, sort of doing what the Egyptians did, get into a
sarcopagus and, you know, the mind goes off or something, I
don't know. But I think there is something
in that. I think science can get us out
of it. But the problem with that is
before it gets us out of it, we get into a bigger dilemma.
If we could just stop the plastic, for instance, if we
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could just stop the the waste and that kind of stuff so the
planet can slow down and let ourminds then work on the science
that we might, as far as I'm concerned, just yeah, we sailed
through that one. Phew.
That was close. But right now?
Exactly. That's that's magical.
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Yeah. I do believe that you're you're
on the right track. But if we can slow down long
enough, the the technology is just exploding.
And the groups actually shared with me that, that some of this
technology comes from, from the ETS, from the beings that have
made deals with some very powerful people to in exchange
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for technology, in exchange for different things that they've
wanted. And that's really one of the
ways that they've been working with it.
They've been working with some of the big powerful people, some
of our past presidents, some of our wealthiest people who seem
to have influence things of thatnature.
We've seen, we've seen a lot of those deals being made.
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So we'll, but I think you're absolutely right.
There's coming a point where we're going to start unveiling
it. And I don't think the ETS are
going to land and say, take me to your leader.
I think they, I think they've been here all along talking to
our leaders the whole time. So, yeah.
But anyway, I do think there's abreakthrough coming.
And I think that I'm hoping thatis what you're anticipating here
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because, boy, that would, you know, that would just bring the
whole Earth together. Even if they were friendly, it
would bring the Earth and the people of Earth together in a
different way. They have some pride about being
an Earthling, about being about Mother Nature, about the beauty
of planet Earth. All the rest of it could be
rekindled in a whole different way if that took place.
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Yeah, let's hope that. Nice thoughts.
Let's hope that unfolds. So tell me about your book.
You've got you've got your book out and people can bid that at
Amazon. And what was?
Yep, Yep. Yep.
Yep, Yep, Yep. And yeah, definitely.
And so the publisher is inner traditions, but but just Google
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this the something that way Google that the easiest way to.
Learn astrology, OK? Yeah, yeah.
And YouTube, my YouTube channel,Alison Chester Lambert for
almost daily as I say, cosmic insights, astrology, some
tuition come and join the fun. That'd be great.
That's. Wonderful.
And we'll have to do AQ and A together.
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I think that. Would be love to I.
Think that would be a lot of funon on YouTube?
We'll do that. We'll do.
That brilliant. Awesome.
Allison Chester Lambert, thank you so much for all that you've
done for this family over the years.
It's been absolutely incredible.People loved you.
Thank you for being a part of it.
I'm just very honored to be herewith you and be able to have
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this podcast with you today. So thanks for.
Being here, thank you, thank you, thank you, Thank you for
all you do. Thank you.
All right, Hon. Thanks again.
Bye. Bye now.
I've returned you back to the studio.
Thanks for being with us. And this is the Back Story
podcast from aspavo.org and Steve rother.org.
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Aspavo, everybody, thank you. Music.