February 7, 2025 • 45 mins
In 2001, Mexican channel, channel 5 aired a missing person announcement for Selene Delgado Lopez, which spawned an urban legend and one of the biggest internet misteries to date.
Carmen shares the case of Selene Delgado Lopez, and a simlar case from Chicago and Cristina shares an update from a case form episode 94, Sharon Kinne aka La Pistolera. They end with spooky recommendations.
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Carmen shares the case of Selene Delgado Lopez, and a simlar case from Chicago and Cristina shares an update from a case form episode 94, Sharon Kinne aka La Pistolera. They end with spooky recommendations.
If you have a spooky story to share, email Espookytales@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at the Espooky Hot Line (360)836-4486. You can also submit it on Discord!
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Listen to Cristina guest on PNW Haunts and Homicides
Listen to Carmen and Cristina's other podcast Historias Unknown
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi. This is Christina and Carmen and this is another
episode of a Spookitals, the podcaster for all Things SWOOKI
hunted places true crime involving Latin America, and on today's episode,
we have what should have been a normal missing persons
announcement on a Mexican TV channel that somehow became one
of the biggest Internet mysteries to this date and is
(00:25):
also somehow connected to another similar internet mystery.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
What.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yes, I'm very excited for this episode a mystery to
mysteries and one mystery solved because I have an update
on a previous case for for my segment my half
All right, yeah, and normally before all that we would
have a listeners story. I did not get one ready.
I've been sleeping all day. Yeah. Yeah, I'm very sick.
(00:53):
If you have stories that you want us to read,
email dot com. You can submit it on Discord. You
can also record no and email that. You can call
these Pooky hotline. There's a lot of ways to get
us your stories. Just send them. We love receiving them.
Today we don't have one though, but we love reading
them when we do have them. Can I prepare them? Yeah?
(01:14):
So should I get into it. Yeah. Yeah. In two
thousand and one. In two thousand and one, Mexicans who
happened to be awake past midnight and we're watching Channel
five were traumatized. It was time for their Servicio a
communidad segment or community service segment, where they listed the
names of missing people. It was on like normal until
(01:36):
they named Celene de la Gado or Selene Delgado, who
was eighteen at the time of her disappearance. They showed
her a picture, but suddenly it changed to a different
picture with no explanation, and let's play the video. When
did you play? Okay? One?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Two, three?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Telena Lopez say.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Meetings?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Oh what the hell? I was like jump scared? What
is going on? Yeah, and they don't comment on this
at all. No, this is the end of the audio. Yeah,
what the hell? That's what they saw on This happened
(02:35):
live on TV and midnight. Yeah what the channel live? Okay?
That was weird. I hope that you go on you
to watch it, and if not, you probably will post
it on Instagram, right, I will. And then when we
have a video version of this up, not today because
I'm sick and it looks like, oh god, we don't
have a video. We're not going to post a video,
but I will. I will redo this, just me reading
(02:58):
the script just so people could see if they want
to see, because it's super chill clips it is. When
Sena's name was said, the only details given were her name,
how old she was, and where she was last seen,
the municipality of Alvaro Obregon in Mexico City. Not only
did the picture randomly change, but there was also a
(03:19):
very harsh tone when the change happened, and none of
this was ever addressed. So first, let's talk about canal Cinco.
It is a Mexican free to air network owned by
Telivisa ViOn. Think like your local PREVS channel here. You
know where all of us watched Dragon Tels, Arthur and
all that. Also you can tell who didn't. Yeah, you
can be like I know, as a kid, you didn't
(03:40):
watch these shows because of the adult you are today. Yeah,
and you know they didn't get their reading Rainbow on. Yeah.
And Channel five was mostly aimed at kids and younger audiences.
During the day, they aired cartoons, foreign series. You know,
it's where we watched Dragon ball Z in Spanish. Oh
that makes sense. I was going to say cartoons yeah, yeah,
(04:01):
and they showed like Disney shows like Duct Taels, Chippin'dale,
the Mexican version of Disney Club. At least on toll
As started running these shows instead. Then it started running
Warner Media shows, so like Looney Tunes, Sunny Tuons, the
Kids next Door whatever that was called ed and Eddie
hated that. I hated them too, and PBS Kids. Yeah,
(04:26):
they were the worst. I there's nothing I hate more
than an ugly cartoon. Oh my god, edit Eddie Redd
and Simpy the chicken. Peve was in butt head. Oh
my god, what your name was? Yeah? Right, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
The point is that it did kids shows during the day,
and then in late hours it ran more reality shows
and general TV shows like like is to See Us?
(04:48):
This bizarre Celena Delegadlo situation. Aside, Channel five News had
done some very bizarre things. For a while. They were
running a Twitter page and posting normal things, but then
around three to five am their post just grew more
and more creepy. They would upload the creepiest Internet videos
for no reason. Infobay, who named that Mexican news agency.
(05:10):
I don't know who named it. Every time I see
an Infoba article. I'm like, is this real? But it's legit? Hmm, yeah,
it sounds fake anyway. So this Mexican news agency tries
to get ahold of the Channel five social media person,
and they claim this person had no idea what they
were talking about or who was making these posts. Okay,
let's play a couple now, this would have been a
good YouTube video. I'm gonna, okay, the normal Patreon's gonna
(05:35):
have the video? And should I just upload it even
though I look fugly? Oh sorry, Oh you licked on it.
It's because I clicked on it adamatically started playing. Oh
my god. It's up to you, I mean, recording either way,
so it doesn't matter to me, you know what, I'll
do it. Okay. I wish it would have powdered in
my face, but it's fine. It doesn't matter. Do you
want to go do it? No? No, no, it doesn't
(05:55):
matter of trash anyway. Yeah, yeah, okay, one, two three play?
Oh my god. Oh I hate this. This is the
worst thing I've ever seen, you know what. It reminds
(06:16):
me of Oh my god, but worse. This is so
much worse. Actually, I can't I don't think I keep
watching it. That's positives disturbing. What it reminds me of
the episode of the Office where Aaron is trying to
make the Halloween party scarier, Like gay brings in is disturbing.
(06:36):
Like videos whatever they are, and everyone's like ooh, and
then one of them is like Oscar's grandma. He's like,
why did you record my grandma? Or whatever. That's what
it's reminding me of. That's how I felt watching this.
It's very it's like disturbing, and they never like they
were just delete these after really yeah, it's in the notes. Wow, wow, Okay,
(07:04):
I did not like that one bit. No, okay, but
there's another video, so should we click on that? All right? Ready? One, two, three,
play lunch Manchi for a munch, Crunch crunch. Oh my god,
I can't watch it. No, it's disturbed.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So that's the last they were just postings like that.
That's very disturbing. Yeah, so by the time everyone was awake,
like around six am, all these weird videos would be
deleted and again there was never any explanation. Very weird. Yeah,
but back to their strangest event, as if these dark enough. Yeah,
(07:50):
and this strange event has now become an urban legend.
It was November two thousand and one when the infamous
Selene Dedo Lopez news aired. Viewers who up at night
watching it live all claimed to feel uncomfortable and scared
when looking at her picture. Some people claimed that when
her picture changed, the TV froze for a few minutes,
then started glitching and cut to static. People started saying
(08:12):
that Selena's ghost was causing this. Others said that her
picture was cursed. Then people started saying the picture wasn't real,
that was why it was making people feel uneasy because
of the uncanny Valley effect. Still, there was a white
search for her, but she wasn't found. This led to
a group of Internet salutes to look into this. This
group claimed Selena didn't exist and this was likely just
(08:33):
an experiment run by Channel five for no reason. But
she makes no reason. Yeah. They searched the missing person's
database and there was no Selena a little bitz there.
They also searched any database they could, and not only
was she not missing, she just didn't seem to exist.
There was no other picture of the supposed Selene except
the one aired by Channel five, and this includes the act.
(08:55):
The first picture they showed not the creepy one that
I switched to, or not creepy, but not the one
switched to, or I didn't original one. Okay, that they're
talking about that that doesn't exist anywhere the when it
switched to people did get down to the bottom of it,
and it's in the notes later, okay, And it just
gets weirder. This whole thing gets fucking weirder. It's a
whole weird. It's all just weird. People moved on. Only
(09:17):
those who were up remember seeing this girl who didn't exist.
Then in twenty twenty, when did this happen again? The
first two one? Oh my gosh, like ninety years later. Yeah. So.
Then in twenty twenty, Twitter user the Amantha Negro posted
a thread about the case with one detail that was
never said before. The Amata Negro connected another cylon in
(09:38):
the Legado to this one who went missing in twenty ten.
The picture he uploaded it looked like it could have
been the same girl. And the picture was taken with
the same terrible quality, like it had been copied again
and again and again before was uploaded. Like those means
people reuse all the time. Yeah, yeah, or like if
you photo because you know, this original picture was old
the two thousand and one to one, so if you
(09:59):
photocopied it, and you photocopied it and you photocopied it,
it would get that very dark like, yeah, I know,
low quality look to it. Yeah. This led to a
ton of YouTubers to revive the original video and everyone
was talking about the keys. Also TikTok M. Of course
tiktoking YouTube went big on it. Then things got even weirder.
(10:22):
This time Facebook was involved, and that's never good, it's not.
People found a Facebook page belonging to a middle aged
woman named Selene and Lopez Porcelaine. People then realized that
somehow they were already friends with her, even though they
hadn't added her themselves. Then they noticed there was no
(10:42):
way to unfriend her either. The profile was shared one
hundred and twenty six thousand times. People were saying it
was haunted or cursed, But it turns out this was
a real person who had nothing to do with Channel five,
with the Channel five incident, I thought so por Lady Porcelene.
She ended up having to private her Facebook because of
(11:03):
the constant harassment, and it's still private to this day. Yeah,
and actually I'm not sure if I included it in
my notes, But the reason it looked like she was
being added and she was already friends with anyone is
because she had a type of setting where when you
look at someone's profile page, it says message, but it
doesn't say ad friend. You can disable the ad friend button,
so then it looks like you're already friends with her.
(11:24):
And the reason that they couldn't unfrint her is because
they were not we friends the first place. Oh my god. Yeah,
and she had the ad friend disabled, so it looked
like you were a ready friends with Ridiculous. That's what
people got confused about. Yeah, and it's spread panic in Mexico, like,
oh my god, I'm friends with her. Two Oh my god,
you have friends other too, Yeah, as they seem tend
to go. There's different theories around that try to explain
(11:48):
what happened. One of them is that she was an
actual missing person and the lack of any information on
her is because of the lack of resources and that
there's just too many missing people in Mexico. The glitches
that happened were probably due to to poor quality of
TV cable at the time. Another theory she was never
a real person. She was created by Channel five to
scare their viewers and spread awareness of missing people, or
(12:09):
just to get attention and more views, right, or ratings
or whatever. Another theory is that she was never a
real person, but she was created by a person pranking
Channel five. I could believe that, yeah, this person sent
in her picture and fake information into Channel five to
see if they would still include it during the community
service segment. Many favor this theory because the channel kept
(12:30):
broadcasting her image for years. People began to notice that
the image of Selene that God was actually composite of
Derek Todd, also known as the Baton Rouge Slayer, and
that it became associated with Selena because they're similar facial proportions.
And I wouldn't say, because we're going to have the
pictures up here, but I wouldn't say that it was
similar to the first one. But when they put up
(12:53):
the second one, okay, that is his composite, But I
don't think it was that similar to her original picture.
The original quality, No, But the second one that popped
up after it does look like is the same picture.
I thought, just a little bit of changes, Like it
looks like the composite of that guy. Yeah, just stretched
(13:13):
out the second darkening one. Yeah, yes, that's kind on
they switched to it. Yeah, yeah, we're saying the same
thing we are. Their explanation was that this composite was
used to digitally render Selenis picture. The photoca Dreams group
claimed to have proven this by using a kind of
modeling program that rendered the same image by combining other
(13:33):
images of people and the same composite. They said, Selena's
face is too similar to all these images at the
same time, that it's so generic, and that is why
it made people uncomfortable, because it was made to be
generic on purpose. So when people say this, are they
talking about the second image or the first image, Because
the first image, to me, it looks like a normal girl,
(13:56):
no stile. But people are saying the first image look
too generic and that image is made up of really
all other images of people it together like that to
me and anything like that, no, not to me, And
then that the second image that it changed to, Yeah,
is what the first like model of what led to
(14:18):
the actual picture came from. Like it was like the
base they started from, and then they got to the
face that the normal picture they got to her picture
from that weird looking composite. That's weird, but I don't know.
I just I don't feel it's like a normal girl,
but like a bad quality photo to me, right, and
(14:38):
I agree, interesting weird. They believe the theory that Channel
five made this image to include in their segment. They
doubled down on this theory when Channel five was posting
weird things on Twitter, including references to Selene, that they
created this hoax as a publicity stunt, and that's the legend.
It's just an eerie video that was never explained. But
surprisingly that's not I found a website that looks sketchy.
(15:02):
It's a block spot website in Spanish, and this page
claims the conspiracy theories and legs are not true at
all and she was a real person. This page claimed
to have Selene Delgado's mom's contact information. Her family was
very low income, her mom was According to this page,
her mom was Esperanza Lopez and her sister was Lauda
than Gado. The phone number that was attached to her
(15:24):
case is now deactivated, but it belonged to a corner
store near where Selene was said to have gone missing from.
In the municipality of Alvado, Obregon. Her missing person's file
didn't appear in just Channel five, but also other media
and with much higher quality image. The missing person report
was never removed, so it seems to remain in open
case and her family, if they're still alive or still
(15:46):
looking for her. Unlike all of the YouTube videos, say
that she never existed in any databases. This page claims
there were several places with the missing fil report. This
block page claims there's another website from Tutah the six
which has limited access and this page contains over twenty
entries with Selene's information, but of course they never share
(16:08):
the page name or anything, but they did share some
information from this alleged page. Selene disappeared in the morning.
She had a stalker who lived in the streets. Her
father died when she was very young. Her mom washed
other people's laundry for a living. On the day Selene
de Lagada went missing, another woman named Alondra went missing.
(16:29):
Alondra was a sex worker and mostly worked a couple
of streets away from the de Lagado residents. She was
apparently considered a suspect at some point. This blog also
claimed Selena left of her own will and that she
was never abducted. This is the only page with this information,
and there's absolutely no way to verify any of this.
Most people continue to believe this is one strange mystery. Yeah.
(16:54):
I tried looking for this supposed page that this page mentioned,
and I tried the forn A Londra that went missing
or more information. Nothing popped up. Interesting, not that I'm
a professional searcher, you know, I tried, and I couldn't
find anything. But also I did notice that a lot
of people that make a ton of like you know,
(17:17):
YouTube videos with like millions of views on this case,
they don't mention this random website that popped up. Maybe
because it's in Spanish and they don't speak Spanish. Yeah, maybe,
so that was weird. But I'll trying to remember to
put it in the show notes. You'll try to what
remember to put it in the show notes in case
anyone wants to look at this sketchy blog spot that
claims all these things, it might still your identity. No,
(17:38):
I'm just kidding. No, No, you don't have to entern information.
If this wasn't enough, there was another very similar situation
in Chicago, and this similar situation was eerily similar, also
involving a Channel five. Naturally, people started connecting the two
(18:00):
on January fourteenth, nineteen eighty nine, so this one happened first.
Wm Q Channel five out of Chicago was doing their
public service announcements, which included things like anti drug stuff
and meditation segments. For some reason, they also this also
included the national anthem. Right after the national anthem finished,
(18:20):
there was silence and then a picture of Joanna Lopez.
The picture also said missing and call three twelve seven
four four five five ninety four And for some reason,
the picture was of extremely terrible quality and wow, yes,
you can't even like if you saw this picture and
then you saw this person in real life, you would
never know. Was that because there's like no deesael, Like
(18:41):
you can't recognize someone from this picture? No, not at all.
The picture was placed there with no sound at all
and remained up for twenty seconds. Pretty normal. Then two
years later, on January fourteenth, nineteen ninety one, WMQ showed
her photo again. It was the same video from nineteen eight,
but this time after twenty seconds she went away and
(19:03):
came back and stayed up for six hours all night
with no other sound, all night, with no other sound,
just for static image. Okay, that's why you said it
pretty normal earlier, because I was like, I guess that's normal.
Now reading this, I'm like, okay, that's normal. Yeah, oh
my god the hell. It's also so fucking weird that
(19:26):
both their last names and with Lopez and these are
both Channel five. Yeah. Yeah, that's so weird, people claimed.
When they called the number, no one ever answered, and
just like Selena Delegado, there was no record of Joanna anywhere,
no police reports, and no missing persons reports. This remains
unsolved today and of course led people to believe she
(19:48):
was never real to begin with. Since this weird broadcast,
there's been a few different theories. The first one that
she was real and she was a runaway and that
her parents didn't report her missing to the police and
instead sent her picture w and make you I feel
like that's possible. Yeah yeah, just like out of the
word know where the picture is so horrible, But it's
very possible. I mean, this was nineteen eighty nine. I
(20:10):
guess like they could have like Xerox did a bunch
of time. Yeahs, you know the same thing with the
other picture, but this one is just way worse. Yeah,
very low quality. The next theory, which is the most popular,
is that she never existed and a hacker put up
a random picture while the national anthem was plain, or
that the channel themselves made her up to conduct some
(20:30):
sort of tests. There's another theme, no reasoned. Yeah, that
doesn't make sense to me. I feel like, yeah, maybe
they made it up just to get attention. Yeah, out
of the two. If if she didn't exist, then someone
made up the picture, I do believe it would be
a random person hagging the hijacking the signal, because people
have done that, hijacked signals and then put up some
(20:52):
weirdass images. Yeah, there's a whole horror story episode on
it which poinked on. I produce it. Yeah, it was
a lot of fun, one of the best episodes two
dates because I worked on it. But yeah, I feel
like they say that about every episode. Do you work on?
So the fuck up? And if anyone has anyone else noticed,
does anyone else agree anyway? But I think it was
(21:12):
like the nineteen eighties or nineties, someone hijacked the signal
and put up this weird ass like video of some
guy with a mask. His name was Max and it
was just doing weird ass things on TV. And so
I do believe that if this happened, it would have
been not the TV channel themselves, but some real in person. Okay,
I could see that, maybe the Mexico one also, yeah, yeah,
(21:33):
there's another theory that she's actually a Jane Doe from
a nineteen ninety four case because they look alike and
this Jane Doe died in the area where Joanna went missing. Okay,
I was like, I needed to scroll up to compare
the picture, look at the original, Yeah, and I just
see it's such there's such little Do you have the
same original picture? Yeah? Yeah, that could be in that
(21:54):
could be them. It could be any of those images there.
So there's another theory that she was actually Rachel Lopez,
who attended Chicago Community High School at the time she
went missing. This theory is popular because she also wears glasses,
looks similar and would have attended high school at the
same time as Joanna and they were the same age.
(22:15):
There's a whole subredda because of course there is dedicated
to Joanna Lopez, and one rhetitor claims to have found
Joanna in that they spoke to her on the phone.
They claimed she did run away and was gone on
the photo aired, but the user lost contact with her
two years after they made the post. They also pointed
out that there were two missing Joanna Lopez in nineteen
(22:36):
eighty nine, and they were not sure which one they
spoke to. The subretdit is still active and people have
uploaded high resolution versions of the image from nineteen eighty
nine and nineteen ninety one with hope of finding Joanna Lopez.
I was scrolling that subreddit earlier, and there's another so
the redditor you mentioned right now, that's one of the
(23:00):
highest avoted posts on there. But there's another one that
someone said they spoke to her father at uh some
phone number, but then that he just hung up. And
I'm like, yeah, nobody wants someone random calling them, like yeah,
Like that makes sense. So they seem to believe that
she really did exist. I mean it's possible. Yeah, I
(23:23):
feel like that's one I believe a little bit more
because it's just a very low quality image and the
other one, which is a weird looking image like I
don't know what the word switched, yeah, switched Yeah, And
that was just weird yeah, and anyway, I mean, this
just leaves us wondering word Selene, Selene Lopez and Jonna
(23:43):
Lopez ever real question? Many still asked, We don't know,
including us right now. Yeah. I would love to hear
what other people think though, so weird. Yeah, all right,
we'll take a little outbreak there and come back with
my update. That was once a mystery, that's the race theme. Mystery,
(24:04):
mystery solved. All right, and we're back. We have an
update on a case that I covered way back in
episode ninety four. Who remembers La Pistolera aka Sharon Kinney?
(24:24):
Oh my god, me you remember La Pistolera? Akah, I
can never forget her. I know me neither. So if
you don't remember, here's a very very short refresher because again,
this took like almost an hour the first time, So
here's a very short refresher on Sharon Kinney. Sharon Kenney
(24:45):
murdered her husband, then tried to frame her Doddlar for it,
and then for some reason, police believes her. One month later,
with the money from her husband's her deceased husband's life insurance,
she bought a really nice car at uh car Place
wherever people buying cars, and the car salesman she ended
up getting with that was her new boyfriend, who was
(25:09):
Walter Jones, who had been married for five years to
Patricia Jones for five years and you know they were
like on and off again. He wasn't really committing to
the relationship as much as Sharon wanted. And so then
she kidnapped Patricia Jones. She followed the Patricia Jones like
one day, Patricia just didn't make it home. Walter was worried.
(25:31):
He found the missing prisons report and then it turns
out that Sharon and her other boyfriend John together went
to try and talk to Patricia. Then they ended up
killing her. She ended up killing her. She didn't her
four times and she was arrested and it went to trial.
(25:52):
I think this she was found not guilty due to
lack of evidence, and so just like long story, there
were two trials for her. One she was found not guilty.
In between her waiting for her second trial to start,
she had a new boyfriend and fled to Mexico with him.
In less than a month of being in Mexico, she
(26:13):
shot a Mexican man named Enrique Martinez Rouela, and she
claimed that he was trying to assault her and that's
why she shot him in self defense. But police, Mexican
police quickly figured out that she actually killed him because
she was trying to rob him, and so she was arrested.
And also this is all going on when she was
(26:33):
supposed to have a trial back in the US, and
so the US put out a warrant for her once
she didn't show up to her trial because she was
in Mexican police or in a Mexican jail at the
time of her trial in the US, so she didn't
show up, so they put out an arrest warrant for her,
and up till a week ago, that was the longest
standing warrant in the history of the US because she
(26:54):
still had not shown up to trial. But total a
week ago, yes, absolutely ago, we'll get there. So this
is again, this is all the refresher on who she
was wearing. And then in Mexican jail she was found
guilty and then I think the first sentence was ten years,
and then she appealed and then the judge was like,
that's not enough time, and he gave her thirteen years.
Uh huh, yes, okay, And so more time is what
(27:17):
they said, and then she escaped through the book at
her I remember, yeah, yeah, yes, Then she escaped Mexican
prison and that's it. That's what we know of her whereabouts.
We still didn't know where she was at the time
of recording. When did this episode come out? Wasn't like
two years ago. It was two years ago. So I
let me see the spooky tales and then let me
(27:39):
just search. Oh and then yeah, they nicknamed her. They
nicknamed her La Pistolera during the trial. Okay, so okay.
November eleventh, twenty twenty two is when this came out.
And at the time, I was like, I don't think
she's alive anymore. If she, you know, was because and
then you like calculated how old she would be ned
or remember exactly, yeah old, and so she Yeah, nobody
(28:06):
knows what happened to her. They lost track of her
when she escaped, you know that Mexican prison. Yeah, the
trop was called after that. But it turns out law
enforcement got a tip December twenty twenty three, and this
tip came from Canada, Alberta, Canada, Canada, Alberta, Canada, cob
(28:27):
of Degrassi. So it turns out a month after she
escaped Mexican prison. She was back in California. She met
a man named James Glabys, and she became Dedra Glabys,
not an identity change. They got married, they moved to Alberta, Canada,
and that's where she remained all those years, and she
(28:50):
actually passed away. Where is it? January twenty twenty two
was when she died. So I was right because the
episode came out November twenty twenty two, she was dead.
But the whole time she was hiding out in Canada
and her neighbors described her. Her neighbors are shocked. They're like,
no way that this woman who was our neighbor killed
(29:11):
this many people. Was literally called La Pistolera the gunslinger,
because she was kind, she was always helping out her neighbors. Oh,
they're like, was not Dedra? I think? So? Okay? What
was her other idea? Keep getting cragus? Was the last
name Debra or de Dra? I do remember what you said?
It's one of those yeah, hold on, Dedra, Yeah, okay,
(29:36):
not de Dra. Dedra Glabys, which sounds like such a
fake name to me, but I mean it was. I
guess it was a real name because she existed in Canada. Yeah,
and her neighbors loved her. She knit things for her neighbors,
she took care of them.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So she really calmed down in her elder age. I
guess she stopped killing people. Yeah. Yeah, so they worked
with like now after learning her identity, they worked with
California law enforcement agencies to figure out that in nineteen
February nineteen seventy, Sharon Kenney married James Glabis in LA
and that they later moved to Canada and again up
(30:17):
until like literally a week ago was when this news
came out that was the longest outstanding warrant in Kansas City. Wow?
And how long was it out for? Sixty five years? Oh? Wow? Yeah,
so it was an anonymous tip that was called in
December twenty twenty three. And I guess they waited until
(30:38):
they announced all this because it was literally a week ago, No,
not even a Friday Friday at the same recording. The
Friday that just passed is when this news broke when
they really wow, Yeah, she died January twenty twenty two.
Tetro globis like what and she was there was confirmed
to be the same person through kentless hours of investigation, forensics, gunealogy,
(31:03):
and fingerprint analysis. Like, there's no denying Sharon Kinney was
Deidra Glabys Wow. Insane. Yeah. Her neighbors are like, we
can't believe that she killed the people and abandoned her
children in the US. Oh my god, I forgot about
me too, me too, Oh my god. And they're just
laughing because it's so ridiculous. Oh sorry, sixty four years later.
(31:27):
That's how long it was. Sixty four years And I
guess it took him a while to even follow up
on the tip because they had received so many false
tips over the years. But yeah, that's where she was
the whole time, in good old Canada, having maple syrup
and poutine. I was gonna say, what's that thing they eat?
Probably watching the grassy Wow, that is wild off the hook. Yeah,
(31:51):
but you know, now all the all her victims can
rest easy knowing she's dead. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah, And
I'm just that's insane to me. But yeah, that was
the case or the update on Sharon Kenney wild. Yeah,
And I guess we'll take a little break here before
spooky recommendations. All right, and we're back. Do you have
(32:18):
a spooky recommendation. Yeah, I had a bunch last episode
and you cut me off because you were tired of me. Oh,
I was fine, sleep or something. I don't remember. You're hungry,
I was hungry. Yeah, I haven't finished or yeah, any
like horror books or whatever. Don't really watch anything. I've
just been rewatching the Office and finishing the latest season
(32:39):
of Married at a Sight on Hulu. But I was
talking about Grady Hendricks last time, right, and anyway I
listened to I don't know if it's the most recent
episode of Books in the Freezer, Yes, and he's the
guests in it, and it was such a good episode
(33:00):
hoore with Grady Hendrix. Yeah, it is the most recent one.
I don't know if it'll be the most recent one.
We're on this episodes out But anyway, when I'm looking
at it at the time for courting, it's the most reason.
It was such an interesting conversation about like again, which horror,
his book, his research of his book that I am
(33:21):
on hold, I am number fifty something eighty something, let
me see. I'm excited to read it. But there's a
long Oh it's not that long compared to the other ones.
I'm number seven in line. No, that's not bad. Time
about fourteen weeks? Yeah, no time. Yeah, it'll fly by.
(33:42):
I was the Way which book? Great? Yeah? Yeah, Witchcraft
for Weyward Girls. Okay, And did you listen to the
episode of Books in the Not Yet again? I remember you,
remember my kindness? Yeah, because I've been doing nothing but
sleeping for the past five days because I'm pretty sure
I have flew a oh the flu. Yeah, I didn't
(34:02):
know there was letters for the flu. Yeah, there's A
and B. A is the one that usually goes around
the most. That it's a running rampant in the US
right now, it's insane, and you've got time. I got
a flu vaccine. Yeah, so imagine if I didn't, I'm
more Wow, I'd be dying more. You know what else
I'm on literally for longer. I mean Love and Denline
(34:23):
The House of My Mother by Sherry Frankie the Daughter, Yeah,
that is on my tv R and both are on Spotify,
but I like to use Spotify only for books that
are not on Libby. And I need to listen to
the second one of Parable of the Sore Oh, Parable
of the Talents. Yes, yeah, I forgot the name, although
(34:45):
they're very similar. Yeah, yeah, so I need to listen
to that. And last time I was listening to audiobooks
because all the Christmas ones were on hold and I
had to top up on my hours. I paid ten
fucking dollars for like ten extra hours because of that,
and I'm like, no, I amused. Yeah, so yeah, anyway,
that was my spooky recommendation. Thatsde okay, thats the freezer.
(35:06):
I need to listen. My spooky recommendation is American Rapture
by c J. Lead let me. Actually, that's not on
my libby, so I'm probably gonna listen to that on Spotify.
It was a very good audiobook too, very well done. Okay,
(35:29):
because again I don't read. I just listened to books
most of the time. Also, don't forget. You can find
both of us on story graph, just as Spogey Christina
and a Spooky Carman. Yeah do you want? Because I
want to see what other people are reading. I love
looking at what other people are reading me too. All right,
So American Rapture a virus is spreading across America, transformingly
(35:49):
infected and making them feral with lust. Sophie, a good
Catholic girl must traverse the healthscape of the Midwest to
find her family, while the war around her burns. Along
the way, she discovers there are far worse faiths than
dying a virgin. The end times are coming. And I
think if you're in episode one hundred and ninety nine
(36:10):
of Us Big Tells by now you know two things.
We love zombies and we love religious horror. This book
is both of those. It's insane. I will say I
gave it five out of five, and it does take
a little bit to get into the horror of everything
that's happening. But it has to set up the religious trauma.
(36:34):
It has to set up right Sophie, the main character,
has been raised. It has to set all that up
and why her brother and her are in different places,
why the world is the way it is before everything
goes to hell. And so she was raised in this
very super strict Catholic household. She's like so sheltered it's insane,
like extremely sheltered. She was only allowed to read books
(36:58):
of her parents' list. They didn't watch an a TV.
So when everything happens, she doesn't know what's happening. Because
although this has been in the news for a while
now I didn't know, she didn't know. She didn't know,
And so this breaks out and her brother is miles
away at a home they sent him to, like a
home for the sacre, and I feel like it was
(37:19):
having something to do with like conversion therapy, where they
were trying to I don't know what it is, I
because again sometimes I space out and I don't pay
attention fully, So I maybe I missed the reason he
was sent away. Something happened, something shameful that makes him
a quote unquote bad person to the Catholics and anything, honestly,
And so Sophie in her mind is trying to figure
(37:42):
out what is he really bad? Is this any of
what I learned? Is this really bad? So she has
to unlearn so many things in the middle of the
apocalypse that's so hard to do even in a regular
and the regular day to day. Yeah, and so you
get she you know, she's traveling, she's trying to find
her brother. So she meets people, and this book just
(38:02):
like rips your heart out when when you least expect it.
I don't want to spoil anything, but like people that
she meets throughout obviously it's it's an apocalypse things they're
gonna happen. So in the in a very set, like
very walking to the sense like no one is safe
type thing, you know. I would love to see this
(38:24):
into a show. Also reminded me of this fucking movie
that traumatized the fuck out of me. I will never
watch it. I actually don't recommend anyone watches it. The Sadness.
It's a The Sadness is a twenty twenty one Taiwanese
zombie horror film, but oh my fucking god, it's the
worst thing I've ever fucking seen. And it's like so gory.
(38:44):
So so this viral this is like a viral thing
that transforms people into sadistic but there's the maniacs. So
in the end, American Rapture is very similar in the
sense that they're like lusting. It's not just a regular
zombie virus. They turn it to zombies, but they're like
fucking horny as fuck. I don't know. So part of
(39:05):
the zombie is like that the zombies like start trying
to assault whoever their victim is like they're just trying
to spread the zombie virus, and that's how it spread.
And so The Sadness very similar in that manner that
it's fucking insane and it has similar things similar I
(39:25):
don't know, it's horrifying. But this is like a better
version of that to me because and I say better
in the sense that it was less traumatizing to me,
because The Sadness was a movie and you could see
it all and it was so sadistic and dark, and
if that's your thing, watch it. But I'm argument it.
I'm so traumatized. But this was like an easier version
of that because you're reading about it and you're not
(39:47):
seeing it because that was insane, and it's also you know,
but yeah, so au unique twist on the zombie subgenre.
But also you're seeing her trying to move past this
religious trauma on the way she was raised to believe
things were so five out of five halving hours, Oh good,
(40:10):
And that is my spooky recommendation. American Rapture by C. J. Leed.
You actually read another bone of her books, Yes May Fly,
which I recommended so many episodes ago. I do remember when. Yeah,
it's been a while last year though, and it's about
a serial killer Hattie who happens to be a serial killer, right,
(40:31):
And I never read my fly but now I spent
on my TVR forever. But American Rapture. The minute I
heard about it, I'm like, I need to read this.
And I placed a whole months ago when it came
through and my library through it. Wow. Lam But yeah,
I think this brings us to the end of the episode. Yes,
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(41:17):
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So the more that we can help get these things
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It was a lot of fun, and we even for
We're gonna have to do a second part because we
forgotten again. Shout out Fred. He was like, what about
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then he mentioned another one, and then someone else in
(42:22):
the comments mentioned a couple too. Chata said one, and
then Modesto he says another movie. You know. I was like, oh, think,
how do we forget about all these movies? Yeah? Yeah,
so we're gonna have to do another one. But we
have plans to do our favorite religious horror supernatural horror,
so those are gonna be fun too. But we also
(42:43):
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And I would say early, but they're rarely ever early,
you know, me doing things last minute? Yeah, yeah, And okay,
(43:05):
I think that's everything. I have to plug. All right,
Were you gonna add anything or no? No? All right,
I don't know. If you're up at midnight and you
happen to see something weird on TV that will later
become an urban legend, let us know. Oh it's a hoax,
but also let us know. And God blessed you to
do that, because those videos were very scary. Oh my god,
(43:26):
I will not recover from those. The fun was that
probably gonna have a diversity. Yeah, I've been dreaming weirdest
things anyway because I'm sick and my dreams have been
so random. But the way it's gonna be so much worse.
And one of them me and you were just trying
a bunch of different food in Seattle, and so that
was actually kind of kind of awesome. Yeah, that was
(43:46):
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somewhere else was like clowns and so good and bad
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Stay as Spooky
Hi. This is Christina and Carmen and this is another
episode of a Spookitals, the podcaster for all Things SWOOKI
hunted places true crime involving Latin America, and on today's episode,
we have what should have been a normal missing persons
announcement on a Mexican TV channel that somehow became one
of the biggest Internet mysteries to this date and is
(00:25):
also somehow connected to another similar internet mystery.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
What.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yes, I'm very excited for this episode a mystery to
mysteries and one mystery solved because I have an update
on a previous case for for my segment my half
All right, yeah, and normally before all that we would
have a listeners story. I did not get one ready.
I've been sleeping all day. Yeah. Yeah, I'm very sick.
(00:53):
If you have stories that you want us to read,
email dot com. You can submit it on Discord. You
can also record no and email that. You can call
these Pooky hotline. There's a lot of ways to get
us your stories. Just send them. We love receiving them.
Today we don't have one though, but we love reading
them when we do have them. Can I prepare them? Yeah?
(01:14):
So should I get into it. Yeah. Yeah. In two
thousand and one. In two thousand and one, Mexicans who
happened to be awake past midnight and we're watching Channel
five were traumatized. It was time for their Servicio a
communidad segment or community service segment, where they listed the
names of missing people. It was on like normal until
(01:36):
they named Celene de la Gado or Selene Delgado, who
was eighteen at the time of her disappearance. They showed
her a picture, but suddenly it changed to a different
picture with no explanation, and let's play the video. When
did you play? Okay? One?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Two, three?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Telena Lopez say.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Meetings?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Oh what the hell? I was like jump scared? What
is going on? Yeah, and they don't comment on this
at all. No, this is the end of the audio. Yeah,
what the hell? That's what they saw on This happened
(02:35):
live on TV and midnight. Yeah what the channel live? Okay?
That was weird. I hope that you go on you
to watch it, and if not, you probably will post
it on Instagram, right, I will. And then when we
have a video version of this up, not today because
I'm sick and it looks like, oh god, we don't
have a video. We're not going to post a video,
but I will. I will redo this, just me reading
(02:58):
the script just so people could see if they want
to see, because it's super chill clips it is. When
Sena's name was said, the only details given were her name,
how old she was, and where she was last seen,
the municipality of Alvaro Obregon in Mexico City. Not only
did the picture randomly change, but there was also a
(03:19):
very harsh tone when the change happened, and none of
this was ever addressed. So first, let's talk about canal Cinco.
It is a Mexican free to air network owned by
Telivisa ViOn. Think like your local PREVS channel here. You
know where all of us watched Dragon Tels, Arthur and
all that. Also you can tell who didn't. Yeah, you
can be like I know, as a kid, you didn't
(03:40):
watch these shows because of the adult you are today. Yeah,
and you know they didn't get their reading Rainbow on. Yeah.
And Channel five was mostly aimed at kids and younger audiences.
During the day, they aired cartoons, foreign series. You know,
it's where we watched Dragon ball Z in Spanish. Oh
that makes sense. I was going to say cartoons yeah, yeah,
(04:01):
and they showed like Disney shows like Duct Taels, Chippin'dale,
the Mexican version of Disney Club. At least on toll
As started running these shows instead. Then it started running
Warner Media shows, so like Looney Tunes, Sunny Tuons, the
Kids next Door whatever that was called ed and Eddie
hated that. I hated them too, and PBS Kids. Yeah,
(04:26):
they were the worst. I there's nothing I hate more
than an ugly cartoon. Oh my god, edit Eddie Redd
and Simpy the chicken. Peve was in butt head. Oh
my god, what your name was? Yeah? Right, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
The point is that it did kids shows during the day,
and then in late hours it ran more reality shows
and general TV shows like like is to See Us?
(04:48):
This bizarre Celena Delegadlo situation. Aside, Channel five News had
done some very bizarre things. For a while. They were
running a Twitter page and posting normal things, but then
around three to five am their post just grew more
and more creepy. They would upload the creepiest Internet videos
for no reason. Infobay, who named that Mexican news agency.
(05:10):
I don't know who named it. Every time I see
an Infoba article. I'm like, is this real? But it's legit? Hmm, yeah,
it sounds fake anyway. So this Mexican news agency tries
to get ahold of the Channel five social media person,
and they claim this person had no idea what they
were talking about or who was making these posts. Okay,
let's play a couple now, this would have been a
good YouTube video. I'm gonna, okay, the normal Patreon's gonna
(05:35):
have the video? And should I just upload it even
though I look fugly? Oh sorry, Oh you licked on it.
It's because I clicked on it adamatically started playing. Oh
my god. It's up to you, I mean, recording either way,
so it doesn't matter to me, you know what, I'll
do it. Okay. I wish it would have powdered in
my face, but it's fine. It doesn't matter. Do you
want to go do it? No? No, no, it doesn't
(05:55):
matter of trash anyway. Yeah, yeah, okay, one, two three play?
Oh my god. Oh I hate this. This is the
worst thing I've ever seen, you know what. It reminds
(06:16):
me of Oh my god, but worse. This is so
much worse. Actually, I can't I don't think I keep
watching it. That's positives disturbing. What it reminds me of
the episode of the Office where Aaron is trying to
make the Halloween party scarier, Like gay brings in is disturbing.
(06:36):
Like videos whatever they are, and everyone's like ooh, and
then one of them is like Oscar's grandma. He's like,
why did you record my grandma? Or whatever. That's what
it's reminding me of. That's how I felt watching this.
It's very it's like disturbing, and they never like they
were just delete these after really yeah, it's in the notes. Wow, wow, Okay,
(07:04):
I did not like that one bit. No, okay, but
there's another video, so should we click on that? All right? Ready? One, two, three,
play lunch Manchi for a munch, Crunch crunch. Oh my god,
I can't watch it. No, it's disturbed.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So that's the last they were just postings like that.
That's very disturbing. Yeah, so by the time everyone was awake,
like around six am, all these weird videos would be
deleted and again there was never any explanation. Very weird. Yeah,
but back to their strangest event, as if these dark enough. Yeah,
(07:50):
and this strange event has now become an urban legend.
It was November two thousand and one when the infamous
Selene Dedo Lopez news aired. Viewers who up at night
watching it live all claimed to feel uncomfortable and scared
when looking at her picture. Some people claimed that when
her picture changed, the TV froze for a few minutes,
then started glitching and cut to static. People started saying
(08:12):
that Selena's ghost was causing this. Others said that her
picture was cursed. Then people started saying the picture wasn't real,
that was why it was making people feel uneasy because
of the uncanny Valley effect. Still, there was a white
search for her, but she wasn't found. This led to
a group of Internet salutes to look into this. This
group claimed Selena didn't exist and this was likely just
(08:33):
an experiment run by Channel five for no reason. But
she makes no reason. Yeah. They searched the missing person's
database and there was no Selena a little bitz there.
They also searched any database they could, and not only
was she not missing, she just didn't seem to exist.
There was no other picture of the supposed Selene except
the one aired by Channel five, and this includes the act.
(08:55):
The first picture they showed not the creepy one that
I switched to, or not creepy, but not the one
switched to, or I didn't original one. Okay, that they're
talking about that that doesn't exist anywhere the when it
switched to people did get down to the bottom of it,
and it's in the notes later, okay, And it just
gets weirder. This whole thing gets fucking weirder. It's a
whole weird. It's all just weird. People moved on. Only
(09:17):
those who were up remember seeing this girl who didn't exist.
Then in twenty twenty, when did this happen again? The
first two one? Oh my gosh, like ninety years later. Yeah. So.
Then in twenty twenty, Twitter user the Amantha Negro posted
a thread about the case with one detail that was
never said before. The Amata Negro connected another cylon in
(09:38):
the Legado to this one who went missing in twenty ten.
The picture he uploaded it looked like it could have
been the same girl. And the picture was taken with
the same terrible quality, like it had been copied again
and again and again before was uploaded. Like those means
people reuse all the time. Yeah, yeah, or like if
you photo because you know, this original picture was old
the two thousand and one to one, so if you
(09:59):
photocopied it, and you photocopied it and you photocopied it,
it would get that very dark like, yeah, I know,
low quality look to it. Yeah. This led to a
ton of YouTubers to revive the original video and everyone
was talking about the keys. Also TikTok M. Of course
tiktoking YouTube went big on it. Then things got even weirder.
(10:22):
This time Facebook was involved, and that's never good, it's not.
People found a Facebook page belonging to a middle aged
woman named Selene and Lopez Porcelaine. People then realized that
somehow they were already friends with her, even though they
hadn't added her themselves. Then they noticed there was no
(10:42):
way to unfriend her either. The profile was shared one
hundred and twenty six thousand times. People were saying it
was haunted or cursed, But it turns out this was
a real person who had nothing to do with Channel five,
with the Channel five incident, I thought so por Lady Porcelene.
She ended up having to private her Facebook because of
(11:03):
the constant harassment, and it's still private to this day. Yeah,
and actually I'm not sure if I included it in
my notes, But the reason it looked like she was
being added and she was already friends with anyone is
because she had a type of setting where when you
look at someone's profile page, it says message, but it
doesn't say ad friend. You can disable the ad friend button,
so then it looks like you're already friends with her.
(11:24):
And the reason that they couldn't unfrint her is because
they were not we friends the first place. Oh my god. Yeah,
and she had the ad friend disabled, so it looked
like you were a ready friends with Ridiculous. That's what
people got confused about. Yeah, and it's spread panic in Mexico, like,
oh my god, I'm friends with her. Two Oh my god,
you have friends other too, Yeah, as they seem tend
to go. There's different theories around that try to explain
(11:48):
what happened. One of them is that she was an
actual missing person and the lack of any information on
her is because of the lack of resources and that
there's just too many missing people in Mexico. The glitches
that happened were probably due to to poor quality of
TV cable at the time. Another theory she was never
a real person. She was created by Channel five to
scare their viewers and spread awareness of missing people, or
(12:09):
just to get attention and more views, right, or ratings
or whatever. Another theory is that she was never a
real person, but she was created by a person pranking
Channel five. I could believe that, yeah, this person sent
in her picture and fake information into Channel five to
see if they would still include it during the community
service segment. Many favor this theory because the channel kept
(12:30):
broadcasting her image for years. People began to notice that
the image of Selene that God was actually composite of
Derek Todd, also known as the Baton Rouge Slayer, and
that it became associated with Selena because they're similar facial proportions.
And I wouldn't say, because we're going to have the
pictures up here, but I wouldn't say that it was
similar to the first one. But when they put up
(12:53):
the second one, okay, that is his composite, But I
don't think it was that similar to her original picture.
The original quality, No, But the second one that popped
up after it does look like is the same picture.
I thought, just a little bit of changes, Like it
looks like the composite of that guy. Yeah, just stretched
(13:13):
out the second darkening one. Yeah, yes, that's kind on
they switched to it. Yeah, yeah, we're saying the same
thing we are. Their explanation was that this composite was
used to digitally render Selenis picture. The photoca Dreams group
claimed to have proven this by using a kind of
modeling program that rendered the same image by combining other
(13:33):
images of people and the same composite. They said, Selena's
face is too similar to all these images at the
same time, that it's so generic, and that is why
it made people uncomfortable, because it was made to be
generic on purpose. So when people say this, are they
talking about the second image or the first image, Because
the first image, to me, it looks like a normal girl,
(13:56):
no stile. But people are saying the first image look
too generic and that image is made up of really
all other images of people it together like that to
me and anything like that, no, not to me, And
then that the second image that it changed to, Yeah,
is what the first like model of what led to
(14:18):
the actual picture came from. Like it was like the
base they started from, and then they got to the
face that the normal picture they got to her picture
from that weird looking composite. That's weird, but I don't know.
I just I don't feel it's like a normal girl,
but like a bad quality photo to me, right, and
(14:38):
I agree, interesting weird. They believe the theory that Channel
five made this image to include in their segment. They
doubled down on this theory when Channel five was posting
weird things on Twitter, including references to Selene, that they
created this hoax as a publicity stunt, and that's the legend.
It's just an eerie video that was never explained. But
surprisingly that's not I found a website that looks sketchy.
(15:02):
It's a block spot website in Spanish, and this page
claims the conspiracy theories and legs are not true at
all and she was a real person. This page claimed
to have Selene Delgado's mom's contact information. Her family was
very low income, her mom was According to this page,
her mom was Esperanza Lopez and her sister was Lauda
than Gado. The phone number that was attached to her
(15:24):
case is now deactivated, but it belonged to a corner
store near where Selene was said to have gone missing from.
In the municipality of Alvado, Obregon. Her missing person's file
didn't appear in just Channel five, but also other media
and with much higher quality image. The missing person report
was never removed, so it seems to remain in open
case and her family, if they're still alive or still
(15:46):
looking for her. Unlike all of the YouTube videos, say
that she never existed in any databases. This page claims
there were several places with the missing fil report. This
block page claims there's another website from Tutah the six
which has limited access and this page contains over twenty
entries with Selene's information, but of course they never share
(16:08):
the page name or anything, but they did share some
information from this alleged page. Selene disappeared in the morning.
She had a stalker who lived in the streets. Her
father died when she was very young. Her mom washed
other people's laundry for a living. On the day Selene
de Lagada went missing, another woman named Alondra went missing.
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Alondra was a sex worker and mostly worked a couple
of streets away from the de Lagado residents. She was
apparently considered a suspect at some point. This blog also
claimed Selena left of her own will and that she
was never abducted. This is the only page with this information,
and there's absolutely no way to verify any of this.
Most people continue to believe this is one strange mystery. Yeah.
(16:54):
I tried looking for this supposed page that this page mentioned,
and I tried the forn A Londra that went missing
or more information. Nothing popped up. Interesting, not that I'm
a professional searcher, you know, I tried, and I couldn't
find anything. But also I did notice that a lot
of people that make a ton of like you know,
(17:17):
YouTube videos with like millions of views on this case,
they don't mention this random website that popped up. Maybe
because it's in Spanish and they don't speak Spanish. Yeah, maybe,
so that was weird. But I'll trying to remember to
put it in the show notes. You'll try to what
remember to put it in the show notes in case
anyone wants to look at this sketchy blog spot that
claims all these things, it might still your identity. No,
(17:38):
I'm just kidding. No, No, you don't have to entern information.
If this wasn't enough, there was another very similar situation
in Chicago, and this similar situation was eerily similar, also
involving a Channel five. Naturally, people started connecting the two
(18:00):
on January fourteenth, nineteen eighty nine, so this one happened first.
Wm Q Channel five out of Chicago was doing their
public service announcements, which included things like anti drug stuff
and meditation segments. For some reason, they also this also
included the national anthem. Right after the national anthem finished,
(18:20):
there was silence and then a picture of Joanna Lopez.
The picture also said missing and call three twelve seven
four four five five ninety four And for some reason,
the picture was of extremely terrible quality and wow, yes,
you can't even like if you saw this picture and
then you saw this person in real life, you would
never know. Was that because there's like no deesael, Like
(18:41):
you can't recognize someone from this picture? No, not at all.
The picture was placed there with no sound at all
and remained up for twenty seconds. Pretty normal. Then two
years later, on January fourteenth, nineteen ninety one, WMQ showed
her photo again. It was the same video from nineteen eight,
but this time after twenty seconds she went away and
(19:03):
came back and stayed up for six hours all night
with no other sound, all night, with no other sound,
just for static image. Okay, that's why you said it
pretty normal earlier, because I was like, I guess that's normal.
Now reading this, I'm like, okay, that's normal. Yeah, oh
my god the hell. It's also so fucking weird that
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both their last names and with Lopez and these are
both Channel five. Yeah. Yeah, that's so weird, people claimed.
When they called the number, no one ever answered, and
just like Selena Delegado, there was no record of Joanna anywhere,
no police reports, and no missing persons reports. This remains
unsolved today and of course led people to believe she
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was never real to begin with. Since this weird broadcast,
there's been a few different theories. The first one that
she was real and she was a runaway and that
her parents didn't report her missing to the police and
instead sent her picture w and make you I feel
like that's possible. Yeah yeah, just like out of the
word know where the picture is so horrible, But it's
very possible. I mean, this was nineteen eighty nine. I
(20:10):
guess like they could have like Xerox did a bunch
of time. Yeahs, you know the same thing with the
other picture, but this one is just way worse. Yeah,
very low quality. The next theory, which is the most popular,
is that she never existed and a hacker put up
a random picture while the national anthem was plain, or
that the channel themselves made her up to conduct some
(20:30):
sort of tests. There's another theme, no reasoned. Yeah, that
doesn't make sense to me. I feel like, yeah, maybe
they made it up just to get attention. Yeah, out
of the two. If if she didn't exist, then someone
made up the picture, I do believe it would be
a random person hagging the hijacking the signal, because people
have done that, hijacked signals and then put up some
(20:52):
weirdass images. Yeah, there's a whole horror story episode on
it which poinked on. I produce it. Yeah, it was
a lot of fun, one of the best episodes two
dates because I worked on it. But yeah, I feel
like they say that about every episode. Do you work on?
So the fuck up? And if anyone has anyone else noticed,
does anyone else agree anyway? But I think it was
(21:12):
like the nineteen eighties or nineties, someone hijacked the signal
and put up this weird ass like video of some
guy with a mask. His name was Max and it
was just doing weird ass things on TV. And so
I do believe that if this happened, it would have
been not the TV channel themselves, but some real in person. Okay,
I could see that, maybe the Mexico one also, yeah, yeah,
(21:33):
there's another theory that she's actually a Jane Doe from
a nineteen ninety four case because they look alike and
this Jane Doe died in the area where Joanna went missing. Okay,
I was like, I needed to scroll up to compare
the picture, look at the original, Yeah, and I just
see it's such there's such little Do you have the
same original picture? Yeah? Yeah, that could be in that
(21:54):
could be them. It could be any of those images there.
So there's another theory that she was actually Rachel Lopez,
who attended Chicago Community High School at the time she
went missing. This theory is popular because she also wears glasses,
looks similar and would have attended high school at the
same time as Joanna and they were the same age.
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There's a whole subredda because of course there is dedicated
to Joanna Lopez, and one rhetitor claims to have found
Joanna in that they spoke to her on the phone.
They claimed she did run away and was gone on
the photo aired, but the user lost contact with her
two years after they made the post. They also pointed
out that there were two missing Joanna Lopez in nineteen
(22:36):
eighty nine, and they were not sure which one they
spoke to. The subretdit is still active and people have
uploaded high resolution versions of the image from nineteen eighty
nine and nineteen ninety one with hope of finding Joanna Lopez.
I was scrolling that subreddit earlier, and there's another so
the redditor you mentioned right now, that's one of the
(23:00):
highest avoted posts on there. But there's another one that
someone said they spoke to her father at uh some
phone number, but then that he just hung up. And
I'm like, yeah, nobody wants someone random calling them, like yeah,
Like that makes sense. So they seem to believe that
she really did exist. I mean it's possible. Yeah, I
(23:23):
feel like that's one I believe a little bit more
because it's just a very low quality image and the
other one, which is a weird looking image like I
don't know what the word switched, yeah, switched Yeah, And
that was just weird yeah, and anyway, I mean, this
just leaves us wondering word Selene, Selene Lopez and Jonna
(23:43):
Lopez ever real question? Many still asked, We don't know,
including us right now. Yeah. I would love to hear
what other people think though, so weird. Yeah, all right,
we'll take a little outbreak there and come back with
my update. That was once a mystery, that's the race theme. Mystery,
(24:04):
mystery solved. All right, and we're back. We have an
update on a case that I covered way back in
episode ninety four. Who remembers La Pistolera aka Sharon Kinney?
(24:24):
Oh my god, me you remember La Pistolera? Akah, I
can never forget her. I know me neither. So if
you don't remember, here's a very very short refresher because again,
this took like almost an hour the first time, So
here's a very short refresher on Sharon Kinney. Sharon Kenney
(24:45):
murdered her husband, then tried to frame her Doddlar for it,
and then for some reason, police believes her. One month later,
with the money from her husband's her deceased husband's life insurance,
she bought a really nice car at uh car Place
wherever people buying cars, and the car salesman she ended
up getting with that was her new boyfriend, who was
(25:09):
Walter Jones, who had been married for five years to
Patricia Jones for five years and you know they were
like on and off again. He wasn't really committing to
the relationship as much as Sharon wanted. And so then
she kidnapped Patricia Jones. She followed the Patricia Jones like
one day, Patricia just didn't make it home. Walter was worried.
(25:31):
He found the missing prisons report and then it turns
out that Sharon and her other boyfriend John together went
to try and talk to Patricia. Then they ended up
killing her. She ended up killing her. She didn't her
four times and she was arrested and it went to trial.
(25:52):
I think this she was found not guilty due to
lack of evidence, and so just like long story, there
were two trials for her. One she was found not guilty.
In between her waiting for her second trial to start,
she had a new boyfriend and fled to Mexico with him.
In less than a month of being in Mexico, she
(26:13):
shot a Mexican man named Enrique Martinez Rouela, and she
claimed that he was trying to assault her and that's
why she shot him in self defense. But police, Mexican
police quickly figured out that she actually killed him because
she was trying to rob him, and so she was arrested.
And also this is all going on when she was
(26:33):
supposed to have a trial back in the US, and
so the US put out a warrant for her once
she didn't show up to her trial because she was
in Mexican police or in a Mexican jail at the
time of her trial in the US, so she didn't
show up, so they put out an arrest warrant for her,
and up till a week ago, that was the longest
standing warrant in the history of the US because she
(26:54):
still had not shown up to trial. But total a
week ago, yes, absolutely ago, we'll get there. So this
is again, this is all the refresher on who she
was wearing. And then in Mexican jail she was found
guilty and then I think the first sentence was ten years,
and then she appealed and then the judge was like,
that's not enough time, and he gave her thirteen years.
Uh huh, yes, okay, And so more time is what
(27:17):
they said, and then she escaped through the book at
her I remember, yeah, yeah, yes, Then she escaped Mexican
prison and that's it. That's what we know of her whereabouts.
We still didn't know where she was at the time
of recording. When did this episode come out? Wasn't like
two years ago. It was two years ago. So I
let me see the spooky tales and then let me
(27:39):
just search. Oh and then yeah, they nicknamed her. They
nicknamed her La Pistolera during the trial. Okay, so okay.
November eleventh, twenty twenty two is when this came out.
And at the time, I was like, I don't think
she's alive anymore. If she, you know, was because and
then you like calculated how old she would be ned
or remember exactly, yeah old, and so she Yeah, nobody
(28:06):
knows what happened to her. They lost track of her
when she escaped, you know that Mexican prison. Yeah, the
trop was called after that. But it turns out law
enforcement got a tip December twenty twenty three, and this
tip came from Canada, Alberta, Canada, Canada, Alberta, Canada, cob
(28:27):
of Degrassi. So it turns out a month after she
escaped Mexican prison. She was back in California. She met
a man named James Glabys, and she became Dedra Glabys,
not an identity change. They got married, they moved to Alberta, Canada,
and that's where she remained all those years, and she
(28:50):
actually passed away. Where is it? January twenty twenty two
was when she died. So I was right because the
episode came out November twenty twenty two, she was dead.
But the whole time she was hiding out in Canada
and her neighbors described her. Her neighbors are shocked. They're like,
no way that this woman who was our neighbor killed
(29:11):
this many people. Was literally called La Pistolera the gunslinger,
because she was kind, she was always helping out her neighbors. Oh,
they're like, was not Dedra? I think? So? Okay? What
was her other idea? Keep getting cragus? Was the last
name Debra or de Dra? I do remember what you said?
It's one of those yeah, hold on, Dedra, Yeah, okay,
(29:36):
not de Dra. Dedra Glabys, which sounds like such a
fake name to me, but I mean it was. I
guess it was a real name because she existed in Canada. Yeah,
and her neighbors loved her. She knit things for her neighbors,
she took care of them.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So she really calmed down in her elder age. I
guess she stopped killing people. Yeah. Yeah, so they worked
with like now after learning her identity, they worked with
California law enforcement agencies to figure out that in nineteen
February nineteen seventy, Sharon Kenney married James Glabis in LA
and that they later moved to Canada and again up
(30:17):
until like literally a week ago was when this news
came out that was the longest outstanding warrant in Kansas City. Wow?
And how long was it out for? Sixty five years? Oh? Wow? Yeah,
so it was an anonymous tip that was called in
December twenty twenty three. And I guess they waited until
(30:38):
they announced all this because it was literally a week ago, No,
not even a Friday Friday at the same recording. The
Friday that just passed is when this news broke when
they really wow, Yeah, she died January twenty twenty two.
Tetro globis like what and she was there was confirmed
to be the same person through kentless hours of investigation, forensics, gunealogy,
(31:03):
and fingerprint analysis. Like, there's no denying Sharon Kinney was
Deidra Glabys Wow. Insane. Yeah. Her neighbors are like, we
can't believe that she killed the people and abandoned her
children in the US. Oh my god, I forgot about
me too, me too, Oh my god. And they're just
laughing because it's so ridiculous. Oh sorry, sixty four years later.
(31:27):
That's how long it was. Sixty four years And I
guess it took him a while to even follow up
on the tip because they had received so many false
tips over the years. But yeah, that's where she was
the whole time, in good old Canada, having maple syrup
and poutine. I was gonna say, what's that thing they eat?
Probably watching the grassy Wow, that is wild off the hook. Yeah,
(31:51):
but you know, now all the all her victims can
rest easy knowing she's dead. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah, And
I'm just that's insane to me. But yeah, that was
the case or the update on Sharon Kenney wild. Yeah,
And I guess we'll take a little break here before
spooky recommendations. All right, and we're back. Do you have
(32:18):
a spooky recommendation. Yeah, I had a bunch last episode
and you cut me off because you were tired of me. Oh,
I was fine, sleep or something. I don't remember. You're hungry,
I was hungry. Yeah, I haven't finished or yeah, any
like horror books or whatever. Don't really watch anything. I've
just been rewatching the Office and finishing the latest season
(32:39):
of Married at a Sight on Hulu. But I was
talking about Grady Hendricks last time, right, and anyway I
listened to I don't know if it's the most recent
episode of Books in the Freezer, Yes, and he's the
guests in it, and it was such a good episode
(33:00):
hoore with Grady Hendrix. Yeah, it is the most recent one.
I don't know if it'll be the most recent one.
We're on this episodes out But anyway, when I'm looking
at it at the time for courting, it's the most reason.
It was such an interesting conversation about like again, which horror,
his book, his research of his book that I am
(33:21):
on hold, I am number fifty something eighty something, let
me see. I'm excited to read it. But there's a
long Oh it's not that long compared to the other ones.
I'm number seven in line. No, that's not bad. Time
about fourteen weeks? Yeah, no time. Yeah, it'll fly by.
(33:42):
I was the Way which book? Great? Yeah? Yeah, Witchcraft
for Weyward Girls. Okay, And did you listen to the
episode of Books in the Not Yet again? I remember you,
remember my kindness? Yeah, because I've been doing nothing but
sleeping for the past five days because I'm pretty sure
I have flew a oh the flu. Yeah, I didn't
(34:02):
know there was letters for the flu. Yeah, there's A
and B. A is the one that usually goes around
the most. That it's a running rampant in the US
right now, it's insane, and you've got time. I got
a flu vaccine. Yeah, so imagine if I didn't, I'm
more Wow, I'd be dying more. You know what else
I'm on literally for longer. I mean Love and Denline
(34:23):
The House of My Mother by Sherry Frankie the Daughter, Yeah,
that is on my tv R and both are on Spotify,
but I like to use Spotify only for books that
are not on Libby. And I need to listen to
the second one of Parable of the Sore Oh, Parable
of the Talents. Yes, yeah, I forgot the name, although
(34:45):
they're very similar. Yeah, yeah, so I need to listen
to that. And last time I was listening to audiobooks
because all the Christmas ones were on hold and I
had to top up on my hours. I paid ten
fucking dollars for like ten extra hours because of that,
and I'm like, no, I amused. Yeah, so yeah, anyway,
that was my spooky recommendation. Thatsde okay, thats the freezer.
(35:06):
I need to listen. My spooky recommendation is American Rapture
by c J. Lead let me. Actually, that's not on
my libby, so I'm probably gonna listen to that on Spotify.
It was a very good audiobook too, very well done. Okay,
(35:29):
because again I don't read. I just listened to books
most of the time. Also, don't forget. You can find
both of us on story graph, just as Spogey Christina
and a Spooky Carman. Yeah do you want? Because I
want to see what other people are reading. I love
looking at what other people are reading me too. All right,
So American Rapture a virus is spreading across America, transformingly
(35:49):
infected and making them feral with lust. Sophie, a good
Catholic girl must traverse the healthscape of the Midwest to
find her family, while the war around her burns. Along
the way, she discovers there are far worse faiths than
dying a virgin. The end times are coming. And I
think if you're in episode one hundred and ninety nine
(36:10):
of Us Big Tells by now you know two things.
We love zombies and we love religious horror. This book
is both of those. It's insane. I will say I
gave it five out of five, and it does take
a little bit to get into the horror of everything
that's happening. But it has to set up the religious trauma.
(36:34):
It has to set up right Sophie, the main character,
has been raised. It has to set all that up
and why her brother and her are in different places,
why the world is the way it is before everything
goes to hell. And so she was raised in this
very super strict Catholic household. She's like so sheltered it's insane,
like extremely sheltered. She was only allowed to read books
(36:58):
of her parents' list. They didn't watch an a TV.
So when everything happens, she doesn't know what's happening. Because
although this has been in the news for a while
now I didn't know, she didn't know. She didn't know,
And so this breaks out and her brother is miles
away at a home they sent him to, like a
home for the sacre, and I feel like it was
(37:19):
having something to do with like conversion therapy, where they
were trying to I don't know what it is, I
because again sometimes I space out and I don't pay
attention fully, So I maybe I missed the reason he
was sent away. Something happened, something shameful that makes him
a quote unquote bad person to the Catholics and anything, honestly,
And so Sophie in her mind is trying to figure
(37:42):
out what is he really bad? Is this any of
what I learned? Is this really bad? So she has
to unlearn so many things in the middle of the
apocalypse that's so hard to do even in a regular
and the regular day to day. Yeah, and so you
get she you know, she's traveling, she's trying to find
her brother. So she meets people, and this book just
(38:02):
like rips your heart out when when you least expect it.
I don't want to spoil anything, but like people that
she meets throughout obviously it's it's an apocalypse things they're
gonna happen. So in the in a very set, like
very walking to the sense like no one is safe
type thing, you know. I would love to see this
(38:24):
into a show. Also reminded me of this fucking movie
that traumatized the fuck out of me. I will never
watch it. I actually don't recommend anyone watches it. The Sadness.
It's a The Sadness is a twenty twenty one Taiwanese
zombie horror film, but oh my fucking god, it's the
worst thing I've ever fucking seen. And it's like so gory.
(38:44):
So so this viral this is like a viral thing
that transforms people into sadistic but there's the maniacs. So
in the end, American Rapture is very similar in the
sense that they're like lusting. It's not just a regular
zombie virus. They turn it to zombies, but they're like
fucking horny as fuck. I don't know. So part of
(39:05):
the zombie is like that the zombies like start trying
to assault whoever their victim is like they're just trying
to spread the zombie virus, and that's how it spread.
And so The Sadness very similar in that manner that
it's fucking insane and it has similar things similar I
(39:25):
don't know, it's horrifying. But this is like a better
version of that to me because and I say better
in the sense that it was less traumatizing to me,
because The Sadness was a movie and you could see
it all and it was so sadistic and dark, and
if that's your thing, watch it. But I'm argument it.
I'm so traumatized. But this was like an easier version
of that because you're reading about it and you're not
(39:47):
seeing it because that was insane, and it's also you know,
but yeah, so au unique twist on the zombie subgenre.
But also you're seeing her trying to move past this
religious trauma on the way she was raised to believe
things were so five out of five halving hours, Oh good,
(40:10):
And that is my spooky recommendation. American Rapture by C. J. Leed.
You actually read another bone of her books, Yes May Fly,
which I recommended so many episodes ago. I do remember when. Yeah,
it's been a while last year though, and it's about
a serial killer Hattie who happens to be a serial killer, right,
(40:31):
And I never read my fly but now I spent
on my TVR forever. But American Rapture. The minute I
heard about it, I'm like, I need to read this.
And I placed a whole months ago when it came
through and my library through it. Wow. Lam But yeah,
I think this brings us to the end of the episode. Yes,
thank you. A reminder that twenty percent of our patron
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funds are going to charity. The one that I chose
this month is Alao. They have a water drop service
that they do where they drop off water, food, weather
appropriate clothing, and hygiene stuff in the middle of the
desert where people are going to pass because they're trying
to seek asylum into the US and otherwise they could
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die out there without these supplies. So people volunteers, they
gather these supplies, they walk them out there for people
who need them. And again, we know that there's a
history of border patrol destroying things like this that they find.
So the more that we can help get these things
out there, the less people, the less people have to die. Yeah,
(41:39):
very important. I'll put the website so anyone, if anyone
wants to check it out and donate themselves if you
want to help us donate more. Right now, we're doing
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one was Vampire Media, where we talked forever about our
favorite vampire media, or at least favorite so much fun.
It was a lot of fun, and we even for
We're gonna have to do a second part because we
forgotten again. Shout out Fred. He was like, what about
Little Vampire? And I was like, oh my god. And
then he mentioned another one, and then someone else in
(42:22):
the comments mentioned a couple too. Chata said one, and
then Modesto he says another movie. You know. I was like, oh, think,
how do we forget about all these movies? Yeah? Yeah,
so we're gonna have to do another one. But we
have plans to do our favorite religious horror supernatural horror,
so those are gonna be fun too. But we also
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read and react to creepy Reddit stories. Yeah, sometimes they
have a theme, sometimes they don't. Whenever we're together, we
put up some vlogs, so there's a lot of stuff
on there as well as at free versions of our episodes.
And I would say early, but they're rarely ever early,
you know, me doing things last minute? Yeah, yeah, And okay,
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I think that's everything. I have to plug. All right,
Were you gonna add anything or no? No? All right,
I don't know. If you're up at midnight and you
happen to see something weird on TV that will later
become an urban legend, let us know. Oh it's a hoax,
but also let us know. And God blessed you to
do that, because those videos were very scary. Oh my god,
(43:26):
I will not recover from those. The fun was that
probably gonna have a diversity. Yeah, I've been dreaming weirdest
things anyway because I'm sick and my dreams have been
so random. But the way it's gonna be so much worse.
And one of them me and you were just trying
a bunch of different food in Seattle, and so that
was actually kind of kind of awesome. Yeah, that was
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a good dream, and between that was like zombies and
somewhere else was like clowns and so good and bad
dreams anyway, stay Spooky will catch everyone next time. My
book tells this by Christina and Carmen, Produced and edited
by Christina, researched by Christina Carmen and with the help
of Don Shout Out Don. If you aren't joining the
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