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Candace Patrice (00:05):
Hello and
welcome back to another episode
of Essential Mental Healing,where I am your host, Candace
Patrice.
Hello, hello, hello, andjoining me today is my lovely
co-host and her name is JanetHale.
Janet Hale (00:25):
Yeah, hello, hello.
My name is Janet.
Oh, what a day, what a day Fromthe bluesy hippie.
Let's do it.
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Janet Hale (01:14):
So, mother, you
wanted to tell me about your
weekend and I paused you to tellit to me.
So I went to an event out inPontiac and and it was a
beautiful environment andsometimes I'll say and I'm not
the first one to say it thingsare not personal, they're
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vibrational.
And that vibration was high andeverybody, it was just love and
it was just warmth.
It was oh, and there werehippies in there and I was like
purple hair, I was like lovingeverybody, yes, and then someone
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had on pointy ears and just allthis, good goodness, and it was
a.
It felt like a judge-free zone,like however you show up, you
are accepted, like how we talkabout how we see the world or
how we want the world to be, orum, so it was just really,
really nice and it was lasteduntil in the evening and we
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stayed a good while and, um, Iwas just so happy to be in that
space.
It was a space of supportingothers, being there for others
and then being there for eachother.
And one of the things that oneof the speakers said, she said
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one of my persons, whatever shedoes, they're in a competition
or would be considered to becompetition.
She said she's invited to oneof my events or her shows,
because it's not aboutcompetition, it's about
supporting one another.
And I just thought, wow, howbeautiful is that?
And she had on her colors forwhat it is that she does.
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And then she talked about theother woman and and lifted her.
Opposed to.
This is a whole competitionbattle.
No, we're in this together, solet's work together and let's
make each other great.
And they did an exercise that Ithought was really cool, which
was call people together andthose who have instagram which I
don't have, but anyway who haveinstagram to get up and then
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reach out to at least 10 peoplein the group and share
information, and I just thoughtthat was an awesome exercise.
And she just talked about howthat's something that she
practices and she invited all ofus who were there that have
events to practice that way,because you're exchanging
information in the moment withpeople that you don't actually
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know, but you're actuallynetworking because you're all on
the same team.
So you know it's a way ofworking together.
So it was.
It was really cool.
I felt really honored to be inthe space.
Candace Patrice (03:56):
That's really
good.
I went to an event lastThursday that we did, an
exercise like that.
It was about creating content,creating with creators, but it
was content creating and wetalked about the different ways
in which we create content.
And we did an exercise where,in the beginning, first of all,
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we had dots that told what kindof field we were in, whether you
were an influencer, whether youwere an entrepreneur field we
were against whether you were aninfluencer, whether you were an
entrepreneur, whether you'reinto marketing and you got to
you were supposed to go meetsomeone with a different color
dot than yourself, and becauseeverybody was trying to have
authentic, authenticrelationships, it was really
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good.
Then they put us in groups oflike anywhere from like three to
six where we sat and kind oflooked at each other.
Well, we talked about ourcontent without looking at our
content, and it really createdthis social interaction.
That was really beautiful.
I was able to gauge someone'snewsfeed, their Instagram, based
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off the information that theygave me from the questions that
were asked, and that was reallyreally good and really nice.
Um, but also I had a pretty fullweekend where I um, yesterday
was it yesterday?
Yeah, yesterday Kamari had acheer performance and we also
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had a play date, my first playdate that an outside parent
reached out to me.
I was like, hey, my daughterwants to have a play date.
And I was like, okay, so we setit up and we went to airtime
and the girls bounced around andme and the parents got to have
just conversation, which wasreally nice, getting to know how
they thought, um and we.
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We bounced around a lot becausewe didn't know each other at
all.
It was like all I know is thatour daughters go to the same
school.
So that was really good.
And then I am taking time torest.
I have an eight week regimen inwhich I have been given where
Fridays and Sundays consist ofrest, which I'm finding very
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difficult, because I immediatelywant to put things on a Friday,
because that's the time where Ihave a little free time, like
Kamari's in school, and I don'twork.
but now I'm like when I go tomake an appointment or something
, it's like, ah, not on a Friday.
I'm like, what other day do Ido it?
So I'm finding that to be astruggle, but it's only for
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eight weeks, just to get somethings in order with myself,
with branding and things likethat.
So it's a business regimen, butit's also incorporating
self-care in there, so that'sreally cool.
It's also incorporatingself-care in there, so that's
really cool.
And then today so I'm findingthat my rest on Sundays consists
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of getting my house together,my daughter together, making
sure we have food which is good.
It's full but it's good.
So I watched service todayTransformation Church online and
I watched a show.
I haven't watched television inI don't know how long, but I've
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been able to watch some shows.
I watch things, which is kindof our topic today.
What are we feeding our mindsbased off of what we watch?
How does what we watchinfluence our behaviors,
influence our thought processes,influence the way we interact
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with other people, influence ourexperience as a whole?
Janet Hale (07:36):
altogether, right,
right, right you don't look as
excited as me.
Oh, my, my and my.
Candace Patrice (07:46):
Well, let me
okay.
So I want to give a story first, because where I'm going to
land at is going to be like oh,she's so holy, like no.
But.
But I remember when I was goingthrough the separation, before
the divorce was enacted I guessI was feeling things and I was
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watching Married to Medicine,when I had my first big panic
attack.
I didn't.
I was folding shirts up, I hadjust started selling t-shirts
and I remember my heart justbeating so fast and I was
thinking maybe I drank my coffeetoo fast, I don't know.
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So I called my ex-husband, whowas my husband at the time, and
asked him if he could get Kamarifrom school.
I was like my, you know, myheart is just Like my.
You know, my heart is justreally racing really fast.
So I took, I took a nap and Iwoke up and instantly it came
flooding back.
So I was like this is notcoffee.
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Then I got scared.
I was like they gonna find medead in here.
They gonna find me dead.
So I took myself to urgent careand that was the first time that
I got on medication for anxiety.
But I didn't know what wasgoing to was right.
It was a little after COVID.
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But I was so lucky and I'vetold this story on the podcast
before, but it's been a while Iwas so lucky that the nurse that
was on staff was socompassionate lucky that the
nurse that was on staff was socompassionate.
So when I share, I must havejust dumped on her my life.
And she came and she hugged meand she rubbed my back and she
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said you're in the right place,you're in the right place.
And I was snotting and I had toblow my nose.
I was like I don't have COVID.
She was like it's okay.
And then she was like so I'mgoing to prescribe you this and
I'm going to prescribe you.
She said I'm going to prescribeyou this, you take this every
day, and then I'm going toprescribe you this and you take
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this on the really bad days.
So today, take this, and thenfrom every day forward.
Then I made an appointment withmy um primary care physician.
Anyways, the point is, I'mstill, to this day, not sure if
that's what it was, but it waspossibly triggered by what I was
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watching and what was happeningon the screen.
Janet Hale (10:20):
Oh wow, what I
watched sent me into a long
regimen of things when you saidthat one of the things that I'm
um and I watch all kind of tv,everybody um, but one of the
things that I'm that I I'm veryconscious of is, um, the news
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that comes on.
Or I try not to watch much.
You know a lot of news and I dothat because and this is since
I was a kid, so you guys, Idon't even know where this came
from but propaganda.
I think about that and howsometimes we're just many times
we're fed informationdeliberately based on an agenda,
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and so when I look at and wehave a lot of things going on,
I'm not about to get in all that, but it's um, and to me some of
it's like fear-mongering orjust all this, and I'm like I'm
not watching that and so I willpurposely like, change the
channel.
I'm not doing this with youbecause I don't want to live in
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fear you talked about.
You know what we watch.
At first I didn't want to do itbecause I watch all kinds of
stuff, but when I listened toyou I was like, well, no, I can
get into this, and so I, youknow, just pay attention to what
I pay attention to.
So if there's something that'syou know the news, I just can't
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do it.
I might get three minutes in.
Then I'm like, oh, can't do that.
And then, with all the thingsthat are happening, I happen to
work in an environment that,with all that is this time that
we're in.
Although there's a lot ofthings that we can look at as
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negative, the positive in it isthat it's bringing a lot of
people together.
It's bringing a lot ofcommunity together.
It's bringing people togetherto support one another.
It's helping us find our people, because I'm in rooms now like
whoa.
Our paths wouldn't have crossedhad we not been in this time
right now.
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But we're in this time right nowand we're in this time and
we're trying to figure out howdo we not live fear-based, how
do we live in a moment ofhopefulness and not hopelessness
?
So I want to say one more thingabout that.
So at the event met a woman.
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She has a book and I sat downand she talked about and it's
public because she has a bookand all that.
But she talked about being inprison and how she wasn't guilty
and how people high up andthat's as far I'm going to go
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with it were behind it and howshe actually had to work at
getting things resolved.
But she said something.
She said we're in a hard timeand things are looking a certain
way right now.
Candace Patrice (13:46):
This is not our
forever.
Janet Hale (13:49):
And so when you can
hear someone who has gone
through imprisonment for 12years for something you didn't
do and for them to talk with somuch hope and um, it says a lot.
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You know it's it.
And it also says I was in theright place at the right time.
You know it was you know also.
Candace Patrice (14:19):
It's not just
what we're watching on
television, though.
Now we have social media andthe algorithms are catered to
what we watch.
So if you're a person whoenjoys action, let's just say,
and whatever facet it is you'regoing to get a lot more things
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of action, whether that iscomedy action, whether it is
violence in the streets, youknow it's going to fill your
mind with those things.
And that's something that I hadto kind of take control of as
far as what's coming across myfeed.
So I don't accept everybody'swell.
I don't friend everybody justbecause, because I want my feed
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to represent what I want mybrain to receive.
So it might be motivation, itmight be cooking, it may be
parenting, but things that I ammost interested in or things
that aren't.
It's very rare that I'll getsomething across my newsfeed
that is really disturbing,unless somebody sends it to me
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and they're like watch this.
And I'm like whoa, what wasthat?
You know?
But that is, that is somethingthat we actually have to be able
to take control of.
If you don't like what's comingacross your feed, then you have
to change it.
Maybe it's unfriend some people, maybe it's changed the
algorithm.
Go search things.
Janet Hale (15:51):
Cause you know the
phones is listening to us too,
anyway, so is this computer.
Candace Patrice (15:53):
Well, I'm just
saying, okay, actually don't I'm
and I'm not scrolling a lotanymore actually and that comes
from me wanting to live a lifeopposed to watch someone else's
life, and and that's how Ieliminated a lot of TV.
Actually, a friend of minewanted me to read a book and it
started it was like a murderlove book, but it was, it was
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murder and love, it was a lot.
The stalker was stalking a womanand then he had intercourse
with her and then she was afraidbut also kind of liked it and
it was like what is going onhere?
And so I was like you know, Idon't know if I can be a part of
your book club.
She was like, well, I got adifferent kind of book you can
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read.
And so she was telling me I waslike, well, you know, I really
like the books that are likementally stimulating like seven
principles of highly effectivepeople and she was like girl,
you just need to read the bible.
I was like that's my favoritebook.
Oh yeah, she didn't know, shedidn't know it was so funny, um,
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but yeah, just what, what we'reputting into our minds, go
ahead okay, she can see me, youguys, she knows when I'm like I
want to say something.
Janet Hale (17:10):
But the algorithm.
Algorithm is something that, um, you enlighten me on, because
something was coming across myfeed.
You was like, ma, it's youralgorithm.
Am I saying right algorithm?
And I said, oh, and so my feednow is how to prepare, prepare
vegan food.
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Positive, motivational thingscome across mine.
You know it's like, um, becausethat's what I want in my life
and that's what I want in mysoul and that's what I want in
my head.
I watched a movie and there wasa certain thing that was said
and I was so deep.
He said to her pay attention toyour soul before you lose your
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legs.
In other words, if you're notright in here and you lose your
feeding, you lose your ground.
You know you lose it.
And I was like, oh, that was adeep saying and it's the kind of
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life I want to live.
I want to live the life ofbeing with good people around
good people, and I do believe weattract who we are.
I do Every now and thensomething else will come up.
But if it does, what is thereason behind it?
Candace Patrice (18:32):
How do you
think that what we're watching
influences how we behave in theworld?
Janet Hale (18:52):
Well, okay, so I
have a mixture of things and, um
, I can only speak on my thing.
Um, I mentioned the news.
I think, if I continuouslywatch that I will walk around
here, probably leave the house,except, well, I don't leave it
anyway, but but I would befearful, I'm not?
It's like you know what.
I'm going to be okay, I'm goingto be okay, and I'm a
minimalist.
I want to be more of that, notwanting and needing all these
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things around me.
It doesn't matter, it doesn'tserve me.
Why am I holding on to it?
But, um, so what I watch on tv,I'm affected in a way.
Um, if it feels good, and I dowatch some trash tv, you guys,
okay, she, she probably don't,but I do, um, but for the most
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part, I try to watch things thatare, um, positive and that
feeds my soul in some kind ofway.
Candace Patrice (19:44):
Yeah.
Janet Hale (19:45):
You know.
So I think we're influencedthat.
That was your question, um, andwhat we take in not only TV but
what we feed our bodies, I meanlike it's a whole.
You know, it's everything thatwe put in our bodies, in our
mind, what we hear, what we see.
Um and so if I'm constantly onsome violent stuff, I just I'm
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not, though, but I think that Iwould behave in a manner that is
probably more aggressive of aperson.
I don't mean, you know, um, butI tend to gear toward things
that are outside of my trash TV,that are compassionate, where
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people care about each other,even movies.
Okay, I'm going to tell youthis movie.
I watched it over but it'sMarbra Streisand did it first.
Oh, lady Gaga did it first.
Ooh, lady Gaga did it, and Ijust watched it again.
Um, a Star is Born have youseen it.
(20:53):
No, it's really good, um, butit's a, it's a love story, um,
and just watching how totalacceptance of people, that, um.
When we accept people, we haveto accept the person, and so
sometimes we can get caught upin.
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We never know what the gift,how the gift is going to be
wrapped.
Sometimes we get caught up inhow it's wrapped.
How good does the paper look?
You know, how neat are thecorners done?
And their gift doesn't alwayscome that way.
Candace Patrice (21:30):
You know, being
a mother is so rewarding.
Yes, However, our children havedifferent tastes than we do,
and children are always.
Look at me, look at what I didlook at what I did.
Janet Hale (21:49):
Look at what I'm
watching.
Candace Patrice (21:50):
Look look, look
, and it's actually.
It's very beneficial to jointheir worlds so that you can
connect with them wherever theyare.
My daughter is a lot like hergodmother and I think halloween
is their favorite um holiday,horror movies and, oh, my
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goodness and I.
One of the shows that mydaughter likes to watch is oh,
what's it called?
Um, all of us are dead it's azombie movie.
Janet Hale (22:23):
It's a show.
Candace Patrice (22:25):
Oh my goodness,
it is gore, it is they really.
It's a lot, but I watch it withher.
I was torn between should shebe watching this or not.
Like she's nine, right, so I'mconstantly thinking about what's
being said in her mind.
But I also realized that inorder for her to be a complete
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person, she's going to know needto know different things.
She's going to learn differentthings and she had already seen
it.
Okay.
So, she had already seen it.
Janet Hale (22:57):
So it was time for
you to join the party.
Candace Patrice (22:58):
And it's one of
her favorite shows.
Didn't I get all concerned Like, oh no is, is she thinking
about zombies?
All day but then she, she hasthe balance, or at least to me.
I bring in a different world ofwhat she watches and what she
takes in, and she enjoys aplethora of things so I am
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watching a plethora of things umone of the my favorite things
that we watch together is bluey,which is a kid's show.
Well, I'm not going to call it akid's show because it's not a
kid's show, but it's a show thatparents and adults enjoy and it
was targeted to children andmarketing to children.
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You know at first, however,many adults have found it to be
she's cracking up and she's onmute.
Are you on mute on purpose?
Because you're cracking up sohard?
Oh, my goodness.
And she's shaking her head.
Yes, if you guys could see theway she is laughing at me.
That show is so good.
There is a show called the Sign.
Anybody who watches bluey, thesign, will take you out.
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Also the episode with thesister who, who couldn't
conceive kids.
Right, I said it.
That really happens on bluey.
Okay, it's oh.
Or the episode where chili, the, the dog, the mom, her dad is
like needing a rest and she'schasing him around.
Then in the end, she's like Ijust don't want to lose you.
And it's just like oh, I justso much.
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They even have an episode,y'all, where they are hung over,
but they do it so nice.
It's the episode right afternew year's oh, it's so good.
But the way she shows up asthey show up as parents is so
good.
Then the kids go about theirday.
Just that you got to learn howto be there for the kids enough
so that they don't feel likethey need you the whole time.
I'm trying to tell you this,okay, I'm sorry, okay, all right
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.
Janet Hale (24:54):
Is this a Kamari
Shore Candice show?
Because, baby, I listen toBluey and Bluey seems more like
your show.
Candace Patrice (25:05):
Have you seen
Bluey?
I cannot watch Bluey.
You come over here and youwatch Bluey.
No, I'm not watching.
Janet Hale (25:10):
Bluey, I would like
to, and then for me I probably
get hooked on it and I gottacome back and tell the audience.
Candace Patrice (25:16):
As a matter of
fact, I challenge you between
now and the next recording towatch a couple episodes of Bluey
, bluey, bluey.
Janet Hale (25:25):
What network?
How do?
Candace Patrice (25:26):
I find Bluey.
Janet Hale (25:28):
It's on Disney.
Oh, I don't have.
Candace Patrice (25:29):
Disney, that's
okay, come over.
I've been inviting you over,mother, ah.
Janet Hale (25:34):
She pulled the
mother card.
Look at me.
Did y'all hear that?
Come see me.
Oh, she pulled the mother.
Oh, she put them.
Oh, okay, let them see how youoperate, let them know how you
do it.
Okay, this is for all of youparents out there who have adult
children.
You guys know exactly what I'mgoing through right now.
Candace Patrice (25:55):
You know I was
just sharing with someone how I
was really grateful that youstill learn how to parent even
though I'm 36.
And I don't care saying how oldI am.
I think it it's a great age andI'm going to continue to say it
, people have.
Janet Hale (26:08):
So what do you think
?
Candace Patrice (26:11):
because there
are people like why do you tell
people how old you are?
Oh, why not Like?
Janet Hale (26:16):
what's the?
Candace Patrice (26:16):
problem, it's a
gift.
Anywho did I say the right age?
Janet Hale (26:21):
I said 36, right,
yes, you said.
Candace Patrice (26:22):
Okay, cool, I'm
going to be 37 in April.
Write that down in case youdidn't know.
Janet Hale (26:29):
Who.
Candace Patrice (26:30):
Mother.
Janet Hale (26:31):
Oh, the gift is
already here.
Candace Patrice (26:33):
Did you know
the age?
Though I know you know thebirth date.
Janet Hale (26:36):
No, you corrected me
.
A few months ago.
I played it off for a long timeand I would tell people let's,
how old is she?
I said I think she's 35, butdon't tell her I don't know.
And then one day you said it.
I was like ooh, I got it.
Okay, she's 36.
Okay, so yeah.
Candace Patrice (26:54):
You can always
go back to the year.
Janet Hale (26:56):
I know you know what
the year is 88,.
I know.
Do some calculations Calculatethat part?
Nope, I don't even likecounting on my fingers.
Candace Patrice (27:08):
That is too
funny, so let me tell you what
I'm watching, though what?
Janet Hale (27:12):
are you?
Candace Patrice (27:12):
watching my
love, so I just finished.
It's only four episodes out byHouse of David.
Yeah, it's about David and theBible.
Oh, you know, is it good?
Janet Hale (27:21):
It's only four
episodes out by House of David.
Yeah, it's about David and theBible.
Oh, you know, it's a good, it'sso good.
Candace Patrice (27:26):
What are you
watching it on prime Amazon
prime?
Janet Hale (27:30):
house of David.
Candace Patrice (27:33):
Okay.
So I find that watching thesekinds of shows, though, to me,
are better, when I can, whenI've read it from the Bible
first, and then I go back, andit's like watching the story
come to life For me.
Janet Hale (27:49):
I enjoy it that way.
Candace Patrice (27:52):
Then, after I
finished that, I started
watching the Chosen, which mysister had been telling me to
watch, but when she first toldme to watch it it was too slow.
I had also just came off ofwatching Book of Clarence, so it
was really slow.
But after watching House ofDavid it wasn't as hard to
navigate back into.
(28:14):
And again it's so.
It right now at least in seasonone, is about the disciples and
their lives.
Like I think I'm in episodefive or so, but I'm learning
about their lives and it's like,oh, is that what they were like
?
So it's now giving me a littleidea of their life, like
bringing them to life, because Iknow the stories, I know you
(28:35):
know.
Janet Hale (28:36):
I have a question
about that, if you don't mind,
because you know I'm notreligious, but I've been going
to know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So which one do you relate tothe most and why?
Candace Patrice (28:47):
What you mean.
Janet Hale (28:48):
Disciple.
Candace Patrice (28:49):
Well, I'm only
on a few of them, so I don't
know yet.
Janet Hale (28:51):
You haven't found
them yet.
Candace Patrice (28:53):
No, I'm not
sure, because I was like two or
three of them.
Janet Hale (28:58):
They were all guys
right.
Yeah, okay, issue number onefor me, but that's okay.
Candace Patrice (29:02):
Well, there
were 12 disciples.
However, there were women whowalked with Jesus too.
Like Mary is Mary of MadelineY'all.
Like I can't say it.
Janet Hale (29:14):
Don't judge me, Mary
of Madeline right.
Candace Patrice (29:16):
Magdalene,
something like that, the M Mary
of M.
Janet Hale (29:19):
Okay, let's do this
oh, he violates with the bible
who was possessed by the demonsand then she really, yes, what
junk I'm going on.
Candace Patrice (29:32):
Listen, let me
tell you the bible's juicy girl.
It sounds like it it juicy.
Janet Hale (29:38):
Oh, it sounds juicy.
Candace Patrice (29:39):
Mm-hmm, things
be happening.
Oh, okay, you know, like evenone of the you know, the lady
who was stoned was considered aslut and that's why they was
stoning her, because the peoplewas like she was with my husband
.
It was like uh-uh, stone thatwhore.
Janet Hale (29:54):
Right, but not him,
though, but her.
Candace Patrice (30:01):
I'm sorry y'all
you know I'm so sorry I can't
help it.
I mean it would have been a lotof hymns too, so I think that
was part of the point.
Janet Hale (30:07):
Oh, no, no, anywho,
but go ahead.
The bible's juicy okay okay, Ibelieve that, I do.
I believe that.
Is it better than thehousewives?
Oh, you paused.
Well, it sounds like it mightbe.
Candace Patrice (30:21):
I was gonna say
, after you read it about ten
times.
Okay, why?
Cuz I'm gonna tell you for real, for real, once you read it the
first time, you know what.
Well, let me take my experienceyou when I read it the first
time I was like what?
It wasn't until I got to thefourth gospel, so you got lmmj
Luke, matthew, mark and John.
It wasn't until I got to thefourth gospel, so you got, uh,
lmmj luke, matthew, mark andjohn.
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It wasn't until I got to john.
Janet Hale (30:44):
Well, showing us her
knowledge.
Candace Patrice (30:45):
Come on now
well, I had to we're tired,
we're tired, we're tired, we'retired.
We're here, listen, listen,listen, because it made me think
of like a lmsw licensed mastersocial worker so I had to make
an acronym, lmmj, because I waslike, wait, who are in the books
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?
I was like it was a lot for me,so I did that.
But it wasn't until I got tothe fourth one and I was like,
oh, wait, a minute, what'shappening?
Because I was like, why do Isound like the story is being
repeated every time I read these?
But by the fourth one I waslike, why do I sound like the
story is being repeated everytime I read these?
But by the fourth one I waslike, oh, I think I get what
happened.
But that was my first timearound back in like 2010.
(31:31):
Yeah, I think it was 2010,because Rory had a Bible from
the Army.
That was the NLT translation.
I could never read the Biblebefore that.
None of it made sense to me, Iwas like y'all really be reading
.
Thou art thee he who was.
But this translation.
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When I read it I was like theseseem like real words.
I feel like I understand thestory.
So that was my first time,actually, because I used to go
to church just to listen to thepraise and worship, cause I felt
like I can understand the wordsthrough the music.
You know, I was like, okay, Ihear what happened and he was
okay and he used to be glorified.
Okay, all right, cool, but youmy listen.
(32:15):
Okay, it's been a journey, okay, listen okay, it's been a
journey.
Janet Hale (32:20):
You're going to get
me in trouble with your
Christian friends.
Candace Patrice (32:22):
It's been a
real journey for me.
So now I have a lot moreunderstanding because I'm
consistently reading and I'mputting things together.
And now I'm like, oh wait, sothe person in this book was who
they were talking about here.
I was like what?
So you know, just puttingeverything together.
So now when I'm hearingdifferent things and I or I'll
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go back to I say who where is,where is this person in the
bible?
And I'll go read it, read thechapter, and go okay, and then
make more sense or something, orI just I'm just constantly
wanting to know and put thepieces of the puzzle together,
because it's a lot of puzzle tobe put together.
Janet Hale (33:01):
I don't know if you
read it four times, I would
think maybe there's a lot ofpieces.
Candace Patrice (33:07):
I only read
that part, for well, that was
four different gospels, but theysay a lot of the same thing.
So by the time I got to thefourth one, the first time, it
felt like I had read it, for oh,I misunderstood you.
Okay, to the fourth one.
Janet Hale (33:19):
The first time it
felt like I had read it, for oh,
I misunderstood you, okay yeah,yeah, yeah.
Candace Patrice (33:22):
However, I'm
clearly, I'm way over four at
this point oh, are you okay?
Okay, because I have to go backto it because with the bible
app, um, it gives you a verse ofthe day.
Okay, so then, from the verseof the day, you can read the
chapter.
Well, sometimes I'll read thechapter and then I may read the
whole book.
Depending on how I'm feeling,where I'm at, or if it's a
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certain topic that I want toread on, I might read that
chapter, I might read that book,you know.
Janet Hale (33:50):
Again, time and
everything, okay, I know this is
not our topic, but you just gotme into this because I'm
watching you guys cannot see howanimated she is, how she's
lighting up as she speaks aboutthis um because I, I can see it.
My question to you is what isthe your most favorite?
Candace Patrice (34:08):
the most
favorite part of the B-I-B-L-E
okay, so it is the book ofEcclesiastes.
So I like that book because ittalks about how he's gone
through getting all theknowledge, all the wisdom, um,
all the re, like everything hadbeen through so much.
Um and then at the end of theBible is just at the end of that
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book.
It just talks about reallybeing a good person.
Like you can do everythingright, you can do everything
wrong.
You can know everything in theworld.
You can know nothing like just,at the end of the day, be the
best person that you can be youknow, okay, I like that second
favorite book oh, okay book ofrevelations.
(34:52):
it took me years to read itbecause people said it was so
scary.
I mean, I guess, when you talkabout things having a bunch of
heads and arms and eyes and comein and destructing things for
years and you know 36 or 40something months to really it
talks about asking forforgiveness and you know there's
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a way.
At the end of the day the worldwill be good.
The chosen will be good, Iguess.
I just think I'm one of thechosen, so I guess I'd be like
oops, sorry y'all, Y'all betterstart living right?
You know like live your lifegood, Go read a book, I'll be
pleasing, I guess.
I just think I'm one of thechosen.
So I guess I'd be like oops,sorry y'all.
Y'all better start living right?
You know like, live your lifegood, Go read a book, I'll be
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pleasing, I see you, if youcould see her go follow the
commandments.
I'm just saying fill yourselfwith the fruits of the spirit.
Janet Hale (35:52):
I mean there's a lot
.
Candace Patrice (35:54):
There's, you
know, a few real key things that
can help.
So I read it.
Um, I understand that there arethings that may transpire at
the end of times, but reallywe're get.
It's to get to a place of peace, love where there's no fear.
We don't have to watch the news, because no news exists, unless
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it's the good news, you know.
So when I think of a world thatexists in peace and harmony, I
think the book of revelations isbeautiful.
Janet Hale (36:24):
Okay, you just have
to have to believe, I guess so I
have a question, because youknow, I'm just a little curious.
So all these heads and stuff,what do they represent?
Candace Patrice (36:36):
just one or two
just one or two well, okay, so
I don't know.
Janet Hale (36:40):
I'm off the top of
my head like one or two again
the, the angels um, there are,angels, there are oh, you guys,
we have a research, because shewill research on a dime, I will,
but you know what I'm not goingto?
Candace Patrice (36:59):
okay, it's,
it's the so there are um.
So I've also did the leastresearch in the revelations but,
there's.
There's trumpets that are goingto be blown.
After each trumpet, there areterrors, or there are things
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that are going to happen for acertain amount of time.
So one thing may be it's itstings people over and over, and
over and over and over for likethree and a half years.
No, I'm sorry.
Janet Hale (37:33):
Don't die.
Oh no, I might want to die.
Candace Patrice (37:37):
We're going to
wish you were oh, come on, you
guys, but that's the point, thatpeople still don't repent, and
it's like it's a lot I'm gonnalet me mute.
Let me mute me out what what ishappening, what is going on.
(37:57):
You know, I know I believe thatJesus is the way and I'm okay
with that.
I love that and my life.
Janet Hale (38:07):
I'm okay with it
being okay for you.
I know you are, you know thatyou're my daughter and I love
you.
Candace Patrice (38:12):
And I love that
I can be confident in that,
because other people areconfident in their ways and
their beliefs now yes andregardless, and they believe
they are right that's right babyso who am I to say that they
are wrong, but I feel confidentin my belief.
Janet Hale (38:32):
Come on.
Candace Patrice (38:32):
You know what
I'm saying bring it to the
paypal, come on, I um, that ismy belief and I study it a lot
and I'm happy where I am in myprocess.
I'm happy with my relationshipwith god I'm happy with my
relationship with jesus I wantto.
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I think he was a great exampleof how to live and actually,
when I was watching the Chosen,episode three, there is a scene
where Jesus is talking to thechildren and one of the boys
said well, he pushed me, so Ipushed him back and Jesus was
like did you not expect forthere to be a punishment?
(39:14):
He was like but the law ofMoses say, I for nine.
He was like but God is thejudge, so let him handle it.
And it was.
I had Kamari watch it because Iam trying to teach her how to
handle situations with love, howto handle situations in a way
that may may.
I think Kamari is very specialand I don't think she's like a
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lot of her friends.
Janet Hale (39:40):
Like a lot of people
.
I don't think she's like a lotof her friends, like a lot of
people.
Candace Patrice (39:42):
I don't think
she's like a lot of people.
I think she's very, veryspecial.
Janet Hale (39:46):
And.
Candace Patrice (39:47):
I feel like I
was personally chosen to help
her walk through this world and,with my belief being in Jesus
and God, I feel that I do wantto teach very specific things,
and one of those things is tolead in love, and it's not going
to always look the way everyoneelse says it should look Like.
(40:07):
Even with the divorce mydivorce some of my responses
weren't the way that peoplewanted them to be.
Janet Hale (40:13):
They were excellent
actually.
Candace Patrice (40:16):
However, I, if
I would have went the route that
some people may have chosen, mysituation would look different,
and I think that's the reasonwhy we have to listen to our own
guts and follow our own missionand our paths.
Are we even talking about whatwe watch?
Janet Hale (40:33):
anymore?
Do we ever stay on task?
Candace Patrice (40:37):
Okay, well, I
guess we are, cause I was
telling you about what I'mwatching and okay she's going to
bring us back to the topic Iknow I gotta woohoo, reel us
back in um, but me watching thatshow is in alignment with my
walk right now, um, and it makesme more curious.
(41:00):
It puts things to life on whatI'm reading and I hope that at
some point when you ask me aquestion, I can answer it more
fluid.
Janet Hale (41:09):
Well, I appreciate
the humility in saying I don't
know, and that's something thatI need to look at.
You know what I mean.
So that's where it is.
And I also want to say, becauseeverybody know, I'm not a
Christian.
It's not a secret anymore um,but I honor you and what it is
(41:30):
that you believe, um, I thinkthat you represent your belief
in such a loving way that, eventhough I am not a Christian, I
respect your Christian.
Candace Patrice (41:43):
Okay, did you
see that.
You see me, you see that thing?
God, I did no, and Mike Todd,make it real easy, oh.
Janet Hale (41:49):
Todd Okay, you guys.
I'm not religious, but I lovethis Todd too.
Mike Todd yeah, In the way thathe presents the information.
Candace Patrice (41:59):
Re-presents.
Janet Hale (42:02):
No no.
Candace Patrice (42:02):
Re-presents.
Janet Hale (42:04):
Okay, help me with
that.
Why is it what?
What's going on?
Candace Patrice (42:07):
Because he's
presenting God again to the lost
and the found.
Oh look, I'm getting educated.
Janet Hale (42:12):
Oh, that's so nice,
okay, re-present.
Candace Patrice (42:16):
I like it.
I know it spells represent.
Did he?
He did that.
Janet Hale (42:21):
Yeah you are he be
breaking it down?
I mean this guy.
I'm like, I am not religious,but I'm going to listen to you,
man, and I say that to all thefolks who listen and hear me.
I enjoy listening to himbecause the way he presents the
information is in a way that isso welcoming, like if I wanted
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to be a Christian, he would beone of the ones that I would
look to to be.
That because of his approach,in the way that he honors
individuals and allow you to bewho you are and not be and not
to offend, but so churchy,churchy and so goody, goody.
You know he's um able to sharehis flaws and the things where
(43:09):
he is not perfect and to say, umand these are my words, but
this is how I take it I am you,you are me and um, we're in this
together, and so it's not likehe's on a pedestal and looking
down on the people.
You know, y'all know where someplaces are like that.
So I honor you and your.
(43:32):
Get down with the Christianity.
Candace Patrice (43:36):
Thank you.
You know, he's actuallyactually today was the day they
shot the episode or the scenefor the church, because his
first book, relationship Goals,is becoming a Hollywood feature
film.
I know, and what he said today.
He said, guys, I just want youall to know this is not a
Christian movie.
(43:57):
He's like, oh my goodness,they're going to Saints, they
came to me.
Janet Hale (44:00):
No people are
already buying their tickets.
As soon as he said that theystarted pulling out their phones
.
Candace Patrice (44:07):
But he said
it's a movie that focuses on
biblical principles, but it'snot a Christian movie.
And he does, I believe he doesa great job at the balance of
humanity and religion.
He does, I believe he does agreat job at the balance of
humanity and religion and youknow, meeting people where they
(44:27):
are and, like you said, notshaming them.
Or you know, even he said today.
He was like you know, when Ifirst started this I didn't know
if I was going to be able touphold because you know, he was
addicted to pornography.
I was about 37 days intopastoring.
He was like.
I was like am I going to beable to not watch porn now?
(44:48):
Like, how am I going to stickto this?
He was like I'm afraid they'regoing to find out that I was in
jail.
Janet Hale (44:54):
He was like and they
did so he's like just so y'all
know, they did, you know, butit's the humanity the humility
it's you know, I can trulyappreciate the honesty, and I do
too, and I, you know I comefrom a whole different, you know
perspective and I can say fromwhere I sit that I enjoy the way
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that he does what he do.
Candace Patrice (45:20):
And we are all.
We're all God's people.
Yes, that's one thing that I'venoticed, because I've been
talking to a lot of people ofdifferent religions.
I want to know more you know myknowledge.
If I stop at what I know, thenhow am I to to know?
You know how?
Janet Hale (45:39):
can I?
Candace Patrice (45:39):
relate to more
people.
I'm really into being open.
My neighbor is hindu, my thelady who works with me is
muslimish.
The one of the lady who I wasat the play date with was jewish
so it was nice you know, I justreally.
And then there's another ladywho's Jehovah Witness.
(46:00):
Now, you know, we, we just talk, because what is it like?
Tell me more, I want to learn.
And generally the people I talkto are very open.
Yes, like my neighbor, ismarried to a, to a white
Christian woman.
Janet Hale (46:15):
Now, that's so cool.
Candace Patrice (46:17):
I've got the
best community in the world.
Janet Hale (46:19):
Come on, that's so
cool, I've got the best
community in the world.
Candace Patrice (46:21):
Come on now
Come on.
Janet Hale (46:21):
That's so cool.
You don't understand myneighbors.
Yes, I do.
Oh, a little bit.
Candace Patrice (46:24):
Are the
absolute best.
Janet Hale (46:26):
And their dogs.
Candace Patrice (46:28):
And their cats.
And their cats and their snakes.
Janet Hale (46:32):
Oh yes, and the
snake?
Yeah, that's right, I saw that.
Yeah, it it's all happeningwhere she lives.
You guys, she's really notkidding.
Candace Patrice (46:43):
Just like when
the hedgehog came, all my
neighbors came over to meet thehedgehog.
Janet Hale (46:47):
She had a hedgehog
in her house For two weeks, for
two weeks from school.
Candace Patrice (46:51):
The school
hedgehog, so it had somewhere to
be for the holiday.
Yeah, it was Christmas break.
Janet Hale (46:57):
The house.
That thing was in there and shewas making sure it was
comfortable, like I think shewas talking to it.
I was like okay, yeah yeah, youdid.
She talks to the fish.
Where's the fish?
Fish still doing okay what'shis name?
Her name, bandit, bandit.
His name, his name yeah, he'sabout a year and he's blue and
(47:18):
he's blue right he's beautifulBandit Blue Sonic Fleming.
Wait, hold on, there's a BanditSonic.
Candace Patrice (47:25):
Blue Sonic
Fleming, yep, that's his full
name.
Janet Hale (47:29):
So I think, even
though we got off of what you
probably think off topic, Ithink we stayed on topic because
it's really about the things wewatch, the things we read, the
people we talk to, who we let inour energy field.
Um, I think it all ties into itand you know what else.
Candace Patrice (47:46):
Just the last
thing I'm gonna say.
I'm sure maybe all right maybeI have noticed that since I've
kind of switched well, I don'twant to say switch, but been
feeding myself more withdifferent books- and whatever
shows I'm able Now, we'll saythis though Grey's Anatomy.
Come on and let me tell you howit makes me operate in the
(48:09):
world, cause I think I'm adoctor.
This is why we got to becareful with what we watch.
Janet Hale (48:14):
Sorry, I gotta laugh
.
Hold on, you do not have tomute.
I don't want your people tothink.
Candace Patrice (48:22):
Okay, listen,
and I'm sure if I was watching
Ayanla Van, you know her name.
Janet Hale (48:30):
I would think I was
the best therapist there was.
Candace Patrice (48:33):
Let me tell you
what I learned.
I could probably diagnose atumor.
I could probably give somesurgery I can do.
Janet Hale (48:40):
I could probably
diagnose a tumor, I could
probably give some surgery.
We do kind of have you feelingthat way though.
Yeah, heart transplant, but Ican feel a hole with my finger
but I want to say oh, I do, I dohave to get on this great, and
I'm eating real quick.
So you know, everybody know Iwas sick about right and so I
had to go in for a particulartest, a stress test, and I
couldn't do it on the treadmillanymore, all this stuff, right.
So I so I'm in there, I'm laidup and they're doing whatever
(49:03):
they're doing and I'm watchingeverybody's face and I'm like
what's wrong with y'all?
They're like I said I need forall of you in this room to know
that I watch Grey's Anatomy.
I said, and your body languageis telling me a whole lot in
this room.
I said, said, and you, thetechnician, I know you can't
(49:25):
tell me anything, you only canread it and you can't say
anything.
So they laugh so hard.
They're like this lady is crazy.
But no, I'm reading your bodylanguage.
Oh well, listen, because Iwatch grace anatomy.
So anyway, the doctor comes in,the doctor comes in, right
doctor never comes in on stresstests.
So y'all need to know I watchGrey's Anatomy and I know this
is not normal.
So the doctor stands up andhe's.
(49:46):
So I'm like did they tell y'allto watch Grey's Anatomy?
So they all just die laughing.
And he said no.
I said well, I'm looking at youand you seem very concerned.
He said because I am.
I said yeah, because I watchGrey's Anatomy and I'm just able
to read all of y'all's rooms.
Wait, wait, wait, listen.
(50:07):
So then they snuck and calledmy doctor, right, so I could
hear them whispering in otherrooms.
I'm like what the heck is goingon.
So then they came back.
We have to release her Because,you know, my doctor's a doctor.
Okay, he's like y'all, don'tmess with my baby, none of his
babies anyway.
So when I saw him again, he's,he's a.
He's a, I believe, african.
(50:27):
So this accent, please forgiveme not to offend anyone, but I'm
gonna do my best.
He goes, I'm gonna go to seehim.
I said the stress that I'mtelling my wife, you girls, yes,
yes, they called me.
They want to put a casepacemaker in you.
I say no, no, don't put nopacemaker in her, get her out of
(50:47):
there.
I said I knew they called youand so, anyway, the grace
anatomy thing is, you know, wecan learn a lot from.
Grey's Anatomy, becauseeverything I said was true,
based on me watching Grey'sAnatomy.
How many years, how many years21, 21 years or 22 we can get
(51:13):
our MD for sure, and I watchedthe first 7 seasons at least 4
times yeah, after I tried to gether to watch it for years,
remember Well.
Candace Patrice (51:23):
I stumbled upon
it in college.
Janet Hale (51:25):
I remember.
Yeah, no, actually I stumbledupon it, it was you and Q wasn't
it.
Candace Patrice (51:29):
No, oh,
actually Jaleesa used to watch
it every day oh.
Or every whatever.
Janet Hale (51:35):
Mm-hmm.
Candace Patrice (51:36):
But I was at
home on summer vacation and it
came on Lifetime and I sawseason one, episode one.
Janet Hale (51:43):
I got stuck, got
caught up.
Candace Patrice (51:46):
Show me more.
Yes, another good show.
What's that Station 19.
I know it's done.
But I learned so much aboutfirefighters watching that show?
Yes, we did, yes I did not knowthat they did all that they do.
I know I'm now looking atfirefighters like why we don't
salute Tom when y'all walk by.
Janet Hale (52:04):
Respect, all kind of
respect.
Candace Patrice (52:06):
I think y'all
should be.
I'm just saying this is war,this is everyday war y'all going
into.
I was like y'all gotta helppeople.
Janet Hale (52:13):
And the care and
compassion that they must have
to do their job, the that theymust have to do their job, the
medical part that they have toknow All of it.
I didn't know they had to doanything medically.
The one where they have thefire truck.
Candace Patrice (52:28):
that was a
medic.
Yes, crisis one or something.
Janet Hale (52:30):
Whatever you know,
we both know what we're talking
about.
Anybody that watched the showknows what we're talking about.
And then they have the doctoron there to take care of the man
.
I'm telling you so, yeah, totake care of the man.
I'm telling you so, yeah, we'retalking about what we watch.
Yeah, it goes right back.
We start.
We're going back to where westarted what we watch and what
it feeds, right like gray'sanatomy, that feeds us something
(52:53):
that is good yeah it is good,even though we're not for real
doctors though, but but but inour minds.
You can't tell us.
I told the doctors that, listen, I don't know what's going on.
Candace Patrice (53:05):
Call me back to
give me my MD.
Janet Hale (53:09):
Yeah, I want mine
too.
Candace Patrice (53:11):
Howard or
Harvard, I mean, I'm not biased.
Janet Hale (53:12):
Yeah Well, I'll go
with.
Where did I go?
To Eastern and Wayne State,either one of them, Just do it.
Candace Patrice (53:19):
I mean, I don't
have to have a degree from your
school already.
Now that you know I have theeducation, just call me.
Janet Hale (53:26):
Oh well, they're
going to want something on the
wall.
Candace Patrice (53:30):
It's called an
honorary degree, you know.
Janet Hale (53:33):
Does it give us a
piece of paper or something?
Candace Patrice (53:35):
All I'm saying
is I don't need to have been.
Janet Hale (53:38):
Oh, we know We've
been to school for 22 years.
Is I don't need to have been?
Oh, we know We've been toschool for 22 years.
Candace Patrice (53:42):
So any school
can call me.
Janet Hale (53:44):
Okay, got it.
Got it.
Accredited Any Accredited Right.
We have to say these thingsUniversity Right.
We have to be intentional aboutthis MD degree that we're going
to get.
Candace Patrice (53:55):
Right, I'll
take the quiz.
I know about.
I know about arteries andthings happening.
I know some chambers to theheart.
I know about brain aneurysms,all of those things I'm just
saying I know it's about gettingtrached.
All of that All of that.
I know that people the pee bagneeds to have a certain amount
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of urine.
I'm talking about the MLsoutput.
Yes, you know.
Yes, there should not be bloodin your urine.
I'm talking about the MLsOutput.
There should not be blood inyour urine.
Janet Hale (54:26):
Never, because we
know that.
Candace Patrice (54:29):
And sometimes
you got to get a catheter.
Janet Hale (54:31):
Sometimes the
catheter makes it go in the bag.
We know about that.
Candace Patrice (54:36):
Exactly.
I know that sometimes, whenpeople can't breathe on a very
rare occasion you have to do athyracotomy and you have to cut
the throat.
Janet Hale (54:47):
She did throw that
big word in there.
Candace Patrice (54:51):
To get the
airways open.
Janet Hale (54:53):
Grey's Anatomy, you
guys, that's all we saying.
Candace Patrice (54:56):
That's it.
So if you are trying to give anhonorary degree to someone who
knows their stuff, Like we do.
Call me oh, and labor anddelivery Like yes, I know that
too.
We Absolutely.
Janet Hale (55:08):
Hello.
Candace Patrice (55:08):
Matter of fact,
I got a video of my very own
and I pulled the baby out.
Janet Hale (55:12):
And I have that
video too.
Candace Patrice (55:14):
You do.
Janet Hale (55:15):
Yes, baby.
Candace Patrice (55:16):
Oh, yes, baby,
we should watch it together.
Oh, we should watch it together, we should.
Me, you and Kamari.
Janet Hale (55:20):
Yes, we should.
Candace Patrice (55:21):
On that note,
if anybody is traumatized by all
the things that we just said,I'm very sorry, but you can call
988 or text 988 to the SuicidePrevention Lifeline.
However, we do hope that thisepisode brought you a little bit
of joy, a little laughter, somefun, make you think about what
you're intaking into your mind,what you're watching what is the
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last thing?
that you watched and see how itmade you feel, or what you're
going to watch, and then payattention to how you feel, how
you maneuver through the day,how what you're going through
affects or what you see isaffecting what you're actually
going through.
Or are you noticing that whatyou're watching is closer to
what's happening in your reallife?
Because it gives you a sense of, maybe, relief or it makes you
feel like you're not alone?
There are many differentreasons why people watch what
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they watch, so try to try to payattention to that if you get an
opportunity to.
If you made it this far in thepodcast at this point.
Janet Hale (56:19):
That's funny.
Candace Patrice (56:21):
Which we thank
you.
We thank you Follow EssentialMotivation.
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And questions, comments,concerns just shoot me an email
or hit that text button yes.
Janet Hale (56:54):
Interact, so we will
know.
Candace Patrice (56:56):
Thank you, guys
.
Did you have any last wordsthat you wanted to give Mother?
Janet Hale (56:59):
Oh, this was fun.
So thank you, and thank you allfor listening and tuning in
with us.
Candace Patrice (57:10):
All right guys,
as always, love hard, forgive
often and laugh frequent.
Bye, bye.