March 14, 2024 • 48 mins
It's Therapy Thursday!
Have you ever considered the possibility that your mind might hold the key to relieving your physical pain? Brandy Gillmore joins me, Candace Fleming, for an eye-opening discussion that will challenge what you think you know about the healing process. Brandy's remarkable journey from relying on a wheelchair , walker, and cane to achieving a complete recovery is truly miraculous. Together, we unpack the complex relationship between our emotions and our physical health, and how understanding this connection can bring about significant health improvements for those grappling with chronic pain and illness.
We explore the established truths of the mind-body connection, understanding the impact of stress on the body. Going deeper, medical studies show that certain emotions can speed up healing. Furthermore, ample evidence demonstrates that individuals with multiple personalities can experience different illnesses when they switch between different personalities. From this we can more clearly see the transformative power of mindset, marvel at the tale of a woman whose throat tumor vanished overnight, and discuss why structured methods in emotional and physical self-healing can lead to lasting wellness.
If you're searching for motivation or validation that a supportive community can profoundly impact your journey to health, look no further. From the importance of recognizing and changing negative patterns to the remarkable potential of the mind in sparking self-transformation, this episode is packed with insights. Brandy and I extend an invitation to you to connect with us, share your experiences, and take that first step towards harnessing the power of your mind for healing. Remember to embrace life with passion, forgive with ease, and laugh heartily—your body might just thank you for it.
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Candace Fleming (00:06):
Hello and welcome back to another episode
of essential mental healingwhere I am your host, candace
Fleming.
I'm Candace Fleming, sorry guysJoining me today.
I have a guest, Brandy Gillmore, who is going to talk to us
about healing the pain withinourselves using our minds.
(00:27):
Who knew how?
Are you Brandi?
Brandy Gillmore (00:31):
I am doing fabulous.
I just adore you and your bigbeautiful smile.
I just I am fantastic and it'swonderful to be here.
Candace Fleming (00:39):
Thank you.
Thank you so much, Brandy.
Can you tell us a little bitabout yourself, who you are and
what we are going to hear abouttoday?
Brandy Gillmore (00:49):
Absolutely.
You know, I have to say, what Ido today is literally the last
thing that I ever thought that Iwould be doing.
In short, I show people how touse their mind to heal their
body, and it's fun.
You can see it under medicalequipment and it's absolutely
mind blowing.
I used to do networkengineering and operations and I
(01:12):
had an accident over 20 yearsago now but it literally changed
every area of my life.
That's what I do is, whendoctors told me I couldn't heal,
or I wasn't going to heal orit's nothing they could do, I
started figuring it out how toheal, and it's just truly
incredible what our minds arecapable of.
Candace Fleming (01:31):
Oh my goodness.
So you had an accident over 20years ago which changed a lot of
your life.
It put you in a wheelchair.
Can you tell us a little bitabout that so that we can know
where we're starting from withthe pain and then where we're at
?
Let's go a little bit throughthat story.
Brandy Gillmore (01:53):
Yeah, absolutely.
In short, to summarize it, Iwas a train wreck.
I went from working like a fulljob and living a full life to,
basically, on a good day I couldget around with my wheelchair
or walker or cane.
On a bad day, I didn't evenmake it out of bed.
Many times I didn't even wantto breathe.
(02:13):
I was just in so much pain anddespite the fact that I was on a
handful of medication, frommorphine and neurontin to
lidoderm I'm just all of thesemedications and I just was still
a mess and I wasn't healing.
And that was my life, and so itwas hard.
Candace Fleming (02:35):
Yeah, and I know you've done a lot of things
trying to figure out how to getthrough that pain.
You said you've done somemeditation.
You've done all of the thingsthey tell you manifesting it and
, like you said, drugs.
You've done a lot of thedifferent steps and it sounds
like they did not work.
Brandy Gillmore (02:56):
Yeah, they did not work and kind of to expound
upon that a bit I would havenerve ablations and maybe that
could help decrease the pain fora little bit, or lighted derm
push.
So I had a lot of trigger pointinjections and nerve ablations
and fusions, all of that, andeven with things like meditation
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and whatnot, I could use themand I could get my pain to come
down at times, but I did it foryears and years and years and it
didn't heal my body, it didn'tchange my life, and so it was an
ongoing thing that I was stuckin.
And when I say I did likemeditation and whatnot, I mean I
was meditating and visualizingand binaural beats and fan and
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face frequencies and sendingenergy and affirmations and
chanting.
I mean, when one thing didn'twork, I would have another thing
and another thing.
For how many hours and hours aday?
And that's what made me sayokay.
Well, the great thing was isthat as I continue to research,
I could see the evidence of thepower of the mind.
(04:01):
We can see the placebo is wellknown or the nocebo.
Candace Fleming (04:06):
What's a nocebo ?
Stress effects.
Brandy Gillmore (04:08):
I love that the nocebo is basically, if we
believe that, like, okay, sosimply put, a placebo is we
could take a fake pill, and ifwe believe that it's going to do
something for the body likemaybe it's going to help lower
blood pressure it can't.
What's interesting is with thenocebo, if we believe it's going
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to affect the body negatively,it can do that too.
The same fake pill, and so,yeah, so it's interesting when
we stop and look at it.
And so that was something to methat was profound is that we
could see all of these differentthings, and I had tried just
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forcing myself to believe I wasalready better, and that didn't
work either, because I thoughtto myself you know, the placebo
is all about belief, but when itwasn't working and I was
forcing myself to believe andbelieve and believe, well over a
year, I was pushing myself.
It wasn't working, and so Istarted researching and trying
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to figure out why and what else,and then I came across
something called the open labelplacebo, which is exactly like
it sounds.
It's open label, so both thedoctor and the patient both know
it's fake and it still works,and I was like, wait a second.
And it drove me to figure itout.
You know why.
Candace Fleming (05:37):
So with this, what is it that you do different
than the manifesting the like?
How is it that you're able to?
Because I've seen the studies.
I've seen how people are inexcruciating pain and a half
hour later their pain has comedown.
First of all, that is thefastest non-medicine working
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thing I've ever heard in my life.
To see the heat and I know youall can only hear us, but I'm
going to plug this real quick.
She has a book and it's got allthe pictures and things, but
we'll get to that in a moment,but you can see the heat
radiation on the pain and how itshows.
After the 30 minutes that painis reduced so much.
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I mean like reduce a lot.
I think maybe like 80% or so.
It was a lot of decrease.
Brandy Gillmore (06:28):
And some of them took it all the way and
kind of describe this for amoment for anybody who's
listening is this is what Istarted doing is, once I healed
myself, I thought people aregoing to think this is
impossible and I want everybodyto know that we have this
ability, because I mean, there's1.5 billion people who live in
pain and even illness and allkinds of things I've seen at
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workforce.
So I started trying to figureout how to show people, and at
first I would take people out ofpain and even when I was
speaking on stages, I would, youknow, pick people from the
audience and show them how torelease their pain, and
everybody was always amazed andI thought, you know, I want to
be able to figure out how to dothis under medical equipment.
And so what I started doing isthere's this medical equipment
(07:12):
called medical thermal imaging,and a simple way to describe it
is if we think about, you know,somebody has a sprained ankle or
an infection, it radiates heatand medical thermal imaging can
be detect this heat at a veryadvanced level.
And so what I would do is Istarted working initially with
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Dr Hillary Smith at AdvancedMedical Thermography and I had
her scan somebody who had a lotof neck pain and you could see
on the scan where the neck areawas just all red which shows
pain and inflammation.
And then I would work withsomebody to use their own mind
and you would see in real timeas their red turned to green and
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their pain is gone.
And even in the study that youwere just talking about, candice
is in that yet some people theywould take their pain from a
level five to a level one orpoint five or something like
that, in 22 minutes.
Or another person taking theirpain from a six to a zero in 28
minutes, I believe, and so it's,but you can see it on the scan,
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and so that's what's reallygreat, is it's incredible?
Candace Fleming (08:24):
Is it something that you have to continue to do
to keep the pain away?
Brandy Gillmore (08:29):
That is such a great question, and the answer
is yes and no and yes.
So the number one answer islike.
I haven't had to do anythingfor my healing my physical
healing years and years andyears, and years and years.
You know, I've been healed formore than 14 years, and I
haven't had to do anything now,and I've had people where I'll
show them how to use their mind.
They embody the change, andit's done Like.
(08:53):
Even on my website, there's avideo of a woman where I did
this, and the video was fromlike eight years ago, and her
neck pain never came back.
However, I want to emphasize, ittakes a real change, and so
some people I've worked withwill make the change, and I'll
tell them you need to followthrough, you have to embrace
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this new way of feeling andthinking, and then maybe they go
home and their spouse triggersthem, or they get upset at the
kids or whatever else that youknow they're from their specific
mindset, and it triggers up andit comes back.
The great thing is, though, isnow they know what the emotional
problem is, what the mindsetshift is, and then they can just
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follow through to then get itgone, and then, once it's gone.
Yeah, it stays gone.
I mean, I have people who havebeen bedridden who now run.
You know, one runs marathons,another one it's just all kinds
of things.
So, in other words, the reasonI said yes and no and yes is it.
Yes, there is follow throughfor genuine change, but once you
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genuinely change, then youdon't have to keep following
through.
Candace Fleming (10:03):
Wow, that is really amazing.
I have a question Do you thinkthere's a way to do that with a
part of the body that'sparalyzed?
Brandy Gillmore (10:14):
Yes, and I would say from personal
experience, I've done that withpeople who are paralyzed also.
Candace Fleming (10:19):
Really, what was your experience of that?
Brandy Gillmore (10:24):
My experience.
One person was from a stroke,another person and multiple
people from MS, which wasactually interesting in MS
because one person, as theystarted to make the change, one
of the first things thathappened is their legs started
jumping, initially paralyzed ina wheelchair, and then, as we
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started making the change, herlegs started jumping.
Now, what was interesting wasthat one time when I was showing
her how to use her mind, shewas sitting at a kitchen table
when her legs first jump.
It wasn't great, because thenit hit the bottom of the table.
So that's something to be laughabout.
Oh, wow.
(11:11):
But I mean, this is how I lookat it is this?
You asked the question.
You said what is it that I dodifferent in my work than
manifesting?
I would say there are a lot ofkey pieces.
But if I were to simplify, isit okay?
(11:31):
If we go there?
Does that sound good?
Yeah, okay.
So if we simplify it, some keypieces that I've done
differently to get these resultsis this Is that we know that
stress affects the physical body, and something that was also
really eye opening to me wasalso the awareness of multiple
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personality disorder, or it'snow called disassociative
identity disorder, but theawareness that people can have
different illnesses when they'rein different personalities.
They can have high bloodpressure in one but not in
another.
They can have asthma orallergies, extreme allergies or
pain in one but not in another.
Or there was even a researchstudy of a woman who was blind
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in some personalities but not inanother.
That was medically documented,not like she's pretending to be,
yeah.
So basically what I starteddoing as I started simplifying
it and I said, okay, how can Isee that the mind affects the
physical body?
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I said, okay, well, of course,emotions.
If somebody's embarrassed,their face turns red.
We all know that.
I mean even emojis know that.
Yeah, pretty well, yeah, but wecan see the emotional physical
response or panic attack.
Yeah, somebody can have anxietyand panic and they can have
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those panic attacks, or evensexual thoughts, sexual physical
response.
And of course, I was a mess.
So I thought, well, I'm goingto need a lot more than emotions
to heal my body.
But then I started also lookingat emotions such as broken
heart syndrome, where somebodycan actually die from a broken
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heart or scared to death.
Somebody can be so scared theirheart stops.
Or even I mean there's researchafter study, after study, even
after surgery.
People who are more optimisticheal faster.
Yeah, people who are, you knoware stressed.
They're healing so much slower,more complications, right yeah,
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and I mean so many.
There's one study after another, after another.
I mean even new research evensuggests that autoimmune
conditions are caused by stress,and so there's all of these
different studies.
Or even last year, the SurgeonGeneral released a statement
about loneliness, how it canincrease things like type 2
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diabetes, and so we can see allof these things everywhere.
And so I started looking at itand said, ok, well, ok, I know
this, and there was a few things.
So one thing I did is I lookedat it also objectively and I
said, ok, well, sure, stress canaffect the body, we know that.
But I could also see people whowere really, really stressed,
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maybe PTSD, who weren't sick howis that possible?
And then people who were, so tospeak, less stressed, who had
major illnesses, and what Istarted to realize is that it
takes a combination of emotions,that that was another key, and
a simple way to think about itis if somebody wants to bake a
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cake and they have flour, theydon't, they can't make cake.
But if they have flour and theymix it with eggs and butter,
and other ingredients, yada.
then they can make cake, and ofcourse, illness is not cake.
Candace Fleming (14:55):
But right.
Brandy Gillmore (14:57):
But point being is, different ingredients
create a different recipe, andthat's why somebody like when I
started looking at you know, mpd.
That's how it could be possiblefor a person to have illness in
one personality but not another, and even have a personality
that's completely that has nomedical issues whatsoever, and
so so that was so.
One thing was understandingthat there's a combination, and
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and that was key and one way tothink about this combination.
If you will like, if we make itsuper simple, we could say this
we could say that somebody whomaybe has been sick for a long
period of time, illness mightbecome part of their identity,
the way they see themselves, andso to heal, they would need to
update their self image.
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Or another thing is, we knowthat fear can create feelings of
fight or flight, and so whenyou take that and then you mix
it with other ingredients, andthen you maybe also somebody
might feel unloved.
So then there's loneliness, andso when you add up these
different things, there's key.
There's key categories ofemotions, and some people who
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are very loved still haveillness.
So there's key combinations.
So, basically, that's what I did.
Differently is I said a fewthings.
I said, okay, there'scombinations, that's key.
What are the combinations?
And then, another thing that Idid differently was I said, okay
, well, different emotions,clearly differently
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embarrassment, red face, sexualthoughts, sexual physical
response.
What are all the other emotionsdoing that we don't realize,
like what is a banditman, orhurt, or rejection or anger or
what are?
those doing and so starting torealize that each one of those
emotions, while we think they donothing, they affect us, just
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like a panic attack and anxiety.
Candace Fleming (16:50):
Every emotion, yeah.
Brandy Gillmore (16:52):
They are affecting the physical body and
if we take those emotions andthen we look at the ingredients,
that's the combination.
Candace Fleming (17:01):
Okay, so you started this?
How long after your injury?
Brandy Gillmore (17:07):
I mean, I would say number one.
I would say I am not sure,because when you don't sleep and
you're told that you don'treally feel like you have a
future, you don't know what dayis.
What day I'm going to tell you.
It all kind of runs together,but I can say that I would say
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eight months, maybe a year.
I would say maybe and thatwould be a really great guess
and the reason I know.
Like.
So I was injured in 03, thepicture of the wheelchair, of me
in the wheelchair in a reddress, was from my sister's
wedding in 05.
And already by that point I hadalready said I'm going to be
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healed.
By then, like I was tellingmyself, I'm going to be healed,
I'm going to be walking down theaisle 100%, no cane, no
wheelchair.
So I had already been likedeclaring and telling everybody
that in their lecture and then Ihealed by late 2009, 2010.
So it still took years beyondthat to figure it out because I
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had been doing everything wrong.
Candace Fleming (18:16):
So once you started to figure this out about
using your mind on healing pain, how did you?
How long did it take you to getfrom the wheelchair to walking?
Brandy Gillmore (18:32):
So I would say this.
So a few things.
A lot of times people will seethe wheelchair and they think I
was paralyzed.
I wasn't.
I was a train wreck.
So for me to walk a very shortdistance was extremely painful
and I could do it like with awalker or a cane and it was.
I was very labored, so it washard.
Certain muscle groups hadstopped firing correctly, all of
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that and I had very poorbalance and so so I wasn't
wheelchair like I wasn'tparalyzed.
So there was that.
Candace Fleming (19:02):
So if you said like I think a better example is
this because I was trying tofigure it out, cause, yeah, I
want people to see how you wentfrom- the wheelchair so much
pain cause they don't see who Isee right now until they go hit
Google and see this powerhousewoman who doesn't need any of
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that anymore and physically fitin everything.
So I want them to be able tovisually imagine how this pain
went.
You went from all of this painto the healing process and where
we are, how far you've come, sopeople can know, like this is
not just something we're sayingor you're just yelling out like
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oh well, yeah, I had an accident, I was hurt and now I'm doing,
you know better a little bit,but no, this is a real, total
transformation and it's going tochange the lives of so many
people and I really want them toget this visual of take us
there, take, give us that visual.
Brandy Gillmore (20:04):
I would say this I a better, probably a
better way to, to, to a way tovisualize, I would say, is one.
I would say there was ups anddowns while I was trying to
figure it out.
I would say I went from relyingon a cane and wheelchair and
all of that to working out withbodybuilders as about five month
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period, and basically thesebodybuilders because I, when I
started going to the gym and Iwas weak and started like as so,
basically I started figuringout how to get my pain down and
I was like, oh my gosh, likethis is, this is happening.
And then I was so weak, I meanmy, my legs felt like they were
about the same size as my arms.
I was, I was a mess, and sothen I started, you know,
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working on building my strengthback, and these bodybuilders in
the gym said they were, they hadbeen watching me and they said
I've never seen anybody do whatyou've done.
If you want to work out with us, you can.
And I was like, of course, andso I.
So I started working out withthem and it was and I mean to
give you an idea, you know, whenI got rid of my cane, I was
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like, okay, I'm just going to dothis.
And and I was still like thingsalong the way.
I mean there was a progression.
For example, because I hadworked with a cane or a walker
for so long, or wheelchair, Iwas not used to being able to
keep my own balance, and so onething that I did is I would, as
I was getting better, is I satlike on a yoga ball and I would
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tilt it a little bit to the sideand then put my foot out to
just retrain my reflexes,because what would happen is
basically my whole balance.
Everything was really off.
But I think that probably abetter example is this is a
woman came into my course and ittook her to go from bedridden
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to walking.
About nine months is what ittook her and then two months
later she walked her first minimarathon.
You know how they have theturkey trot type of thing.
So she didn't run it, but shehad to go from.
Yeah.
So I would say I mean I dideverything wrong and I was
trying to figure it out, and soit's hard to really give a
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timeframe, especially whenyou're surviving and you don't
really care about time anymore.
It was just really aboutgetting better, but that's what
I would say is so.
I like to be impeccable with mywords and it's hard to put an
exact, and this is what I wouldsay is also because I don't know
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if you've ever done this, andmaybe anybody who's working on
yourself maybe you decide tostart doing something for
yourself and then somethingcomes up where you like a family
member's upset about X, y, zand you kind of don't put
yourself as much as a priority.
So it was.
I had distractions also, or upsand downs, or stresses that
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then would knock me off kilterand I was figuring it out.
You know, it's just-.
Candace Fleming (23:06):
So you have a book that we can get on Amazon.
What is the name of the book?
And I have some questions aboutit.
Brandy Gillmore (23:15):
It is called Master your Mind and Energy to
Heal your Body.
Candace Fleming (23:20):
Now this book this read.
Does the book include?
Does it tell us how we can dothis from home ourselves, or is
it something that we have tocome to you in order to start
the process?
Brandy Gillmore (23:34):
with.
The book is so packed withinformation.
It is packed Like the firstpart of it is actually my
journey of discovery of okay, Ifound this.
It was to me that those werethe important things.
What do I need to do?
What was the insight that gotme to the next one, to
understand my mind?
So it's funny.
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So you asked me about time.
At that time, time wasirrelevant.
What was it?
Important was the data part ofit, and that was you know.
To be honest, when you're inthat spot, it's kind of like I
don't know.
In your life do you ever feellike time is just passing by and
you go oh my God, it's a yearlater.
Candace Fleming (24:12):
Absolutely.
Do you ever feel Absolutely?
It seems to go faster andfaster the older I get.
Brandy Gillmore (24:19):
And that I mean , and not only that, but time
became a painful thing because Isaw people's lives progressing
without mine, like and you seepeople, oh, they went off and
got married, oh, this one, andyou're grateful and happy for
them, and then at the same timeyou're like God, my life has
been stagnant for seven years,injured.
So you kind of like, just itbecomes a painful topic of time,
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so you kind of check out asmuch as you can on that note.
You know what?
Candace Fleming (24:46):
I mean yeah, yeah for sure.
Brandy Gillmore (24:48):
So anyways, but again the book has the
important things like theresearch going.
Okay, well, there's this andthis, and so that's what part
one is about.
What did I figure out?
Which delves into even more,about understanding it, because
to me once I understood it, thenit was easier to then implement
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.
And then part two is theprocess.
That says here is the four stepprocess and to kind of give more
context to when I said I wasdoing everything wrong, one
thing like there were pivotalmoments for me that helped me to
gain so much more clarity, andone of them is this is I had
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been in this state of meditatingand binaural beats and
frequencies and guidedmeditations and silent
meditations and ashrams.
I was like ashram music, I meanliterally everything you could
think of, and I was doing thisfor like hours and hours a day,
many hours.
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And one of my friends, her aunt, was actually passing from lung
cancer and she called me up andshe said hey, do you wanna go
say goodbye?
And I said yes, of course, andso she came and she picked me up
and we went there and as I wassaying goodbye to this beautiful
soul, it dawned on me she hadbeen in hospice for several
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months and been in and out ofconsciousness and I thought to
myself just when I saw her.
I thought to myself, gosh,that's what I must look like.
And I thought, well, if thisstate of relaxation was so
healing, then why hasn't shehealed?
Why hasn't anybody in theirfinal days healed from the
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particular illness or ailment?
And that was really.
There was just certain pivotalinsights and I saw that I was
like I can't lay here and justlisten to binaural beats and be
in a hypnosis and Delta stateand Theta state, like I need to
figure this out.
So it was that there was keyinsights that were just pivotal
along the way that helped me torealize that I needed to get
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more clarity to do what I neededto do.
Candace Fleming (27:03):
What you just said made me think of something
else, so this helped you.
You figured out how to bringthe pain down.
Does this also include healingthe illnesses?
Brandy Gillmore (27:19):
Yes, so, and this is the way I see it is
first and foremost to give youan example.
You know I've seen I workedwith a woman who had a tumor in
her throat and the tumor hadbeen there several months.
She had tried everything to getrid of it and basically right
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before her surgery so it wasn'tgoing away.
She scheduled surgery.
She had another MRI.
They could see that the tumorwas five millimeters.
You could see it protrudingfrom her throat.
Her surgery was scheduled forFriday.
Her and I worked on Thursdayand the tumor disappeared.
Candace Fleming (27:59):
Wait, wait.
I need to backtrack.
Can you say that one more time?
I just want to make sure Iheard it right, because I feel
like I heard something wrong.
Brandy Gillmore (28:06):
Okay, so she had a tumor in her throat, right
, right.
It had been there for like fouror five months.
Four or five months got it, andshe had tried everything to get
rid of it and it wasn't goingaway.
Didn't go away.
So she scheduled a surgery.
She had a pre-op MRI whichshowed the tumor was there in
(28:27):
her throat, the tumor there Fivemillimeters, yeah, five
millimeters.
And so that pre-op MRI, thenshe was scheduled for surgery
that Friday, that Friday, that'sonly a couple of days.
Only a couple of days.
Her and I worked on Thursday,the day before surgery, and we
worked and as we did her tumorwent away.
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Now she didn't really believe.
She thought, oh, that must havejust moved or something like
that.
Cause the idea of it, you know,going away.
But either way, I always tellpeople always, always, always,
see your doctors, even if youthink the issue is always,
always, always so either way.
She showed up for surgery thenext day and she was like, well,
I think, can you check if it'sthere?
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And the hospital was like no,no, no, we're sure it's still
there.
She's like can you check?
They're like no, we're sure.
So they got her all drugged upand everything for it and she
was like with the doctor rightbefore.
She was like, can you just justdouble check?
And he they couldn't find it.
And and he's, he's.
He said as an ENT, he's been atENT for 30 years and never seen
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anything like that in his 30years of practice.
Candace Fleming (29:35):
Oh, my goodness .
Brandy Gillmore (29:38):
That's a major.
It's amazing and incredible,and we all know that stress
affects the body.
So it's, it's not, it's.
I mean, she did it, sheembodied the change.
And then I've seen people alsowho message in, who have RA, you
know, rheumatoid arthritis, andtheir numbers are off the
charts.
And then they email back in andtheir pain is gone, their feet
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are no longer inflamed, theirinflammation is gone, and
they're like look at my numbers.
My doctor can't, like, can'tbelieve this has actually
happened and everything'snormalized and and and it's
incredible and and that's thereason that I wanted to start
showing it under medicalequipment is it's not that I'm
so amazing to heal?
I mean, yes, I'm amazing, butwe're all amazing beings.
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Wow, this is this is.
What's incredible, though, alsois even the Bible, 3000 years
ago, says a Mary heart is amedicine to the body.
Ill thoughts will dry the bones, and we have known throughout
history, like every spiritualpractice, and then even, of
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course, more recently, in the1970s, it was proven stress
affects the immune system,stress affects the body.
I mean, we see it back to backto back everywhere and it's like
OK, well, instead of justsaying that stress affects us,
what if we start undoing this?
Candace Fleming (30:58):
Wow, that that's, that's mind blowing,
legit mind blowing, that I hadto have you repeat it twice.
Brandy Gillmore (31:06):
Oh, so the great thing is.
By the way, just so you know,there is actually a video on my
website of this woman standingoutside of the hospital in tears
and she's like she.
She did it on Facebook livejust for her her friends and
family.
She was like guys.
And she's like my surgery justwas canceled and I got my $1,200
(31:27):
co-pay back and I'm going to goshopping Good for her Right.
But you can see she's literallystanding outside of the
hospital in tears.
Candace Fleming (31:38):
Wow, do you know how many people you've
helped?
Brandy Gillmore (31:42):
Do I know I have a video course now and I do
classes, and so I, you know, Ilike to be impeccable with my
words and I can just say I wouldsay in two ways.
I would say that I would saynumber one a lot.
And I would say number two,they've helped themselves
(32:03):
because basically that's whathappens People heal themselves,
so I don't do it.
But what's beautiful is evenyeah, it's just so, I mean, with
the classes.
Sometimes there'll be 250people in a class or something
like that, and so I couldn'teven corner.
Candace Fleming (32:20):
I would have a hard time knowing so at this
point after hearing thisinformation, if I was a listener
, I'd be like tell me where togo.
How do I make this happen formyself?
Like I don't want to wait.
I just tell me.
How do they find out where?
How do they get thisinformation?
How did they get to you?
Are they doing one-on-ones withyou, or is it the video that
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goes out?
Tell us about what the nextstep is for those who are
looking to get to justexperience.
Brandy Gillmore (32:50):
Yeah, this is what I would say Get the book.
Like, get the book, becausewhen we understand how to do it,
this is what's great We've allheard of, like, you know,
meditation, or positive thinking, or letting go of trauma,
healing, or you know it's so.
So, basically, what I've doneis I've been doing it.
Basically.
What I've done is just taken itand say, okay, how do we just,
how do we get results?
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Because I want to emphasize, Imake it look really easy.
And that's what I literally sayat the end of every video or
every recording that I do, whenI like when I work with people
and show them how to shift outof pain.
I literally say, like end ofevery everything I say I make
this look really easy.
And it is because number one, afew things I've been working
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with the mind for a long periodof time and I understand it in a
different way than people do,and and so.
So that's what I would say.
I would say get the book,understand it.
Because it's kind of like thiswhen people go to work with
their mind, they a lot of timesjust try to do everything all at
once.
Now, let's be honest, if we goto put on our pants.
(33:55):
Let's say, we put on our shoesbefore we put on our pants it
would feel like it's really hardto get dressed in the morning,
like it's impossible, right?
You know, if we said, oh well,I'm going to drive a car and
then I'm going to put the like,then I'm going to start it, we'd
be like my car won't drive andit's like.
Or even if we go to speak wordsor the alphabet, there is an
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order to everything we do.
Yes, you know, if we go to eatfood and then cook it, you know,
or like, there's an order toliterally everything we do.
And when it comes to workingwith the mind, people are like
let me just do this and do this.
There's an order.
Like, every time I work withsomebody, there is an order that
makes it doable, that makes itto be able to get results.
So I would say, just under themore we understand how to do it,
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because it does take anunderstanding.
And then what's really great,though, is I'll see people who
go through the video course allthe time, who go through my
video course, go, oh my gosh,like I just released my own pain
, I just released my headaches,I just and it's incredible what
we're capable of.
But a simple way to think aboutit is like this Imagine if
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everybody's walking around, witha bunch of people walking
around with a panic anxietyattack and they didn't know it
was connected to emotions andthey were like I don't know my
heart's racing, my chest isbeating, like I don't even know
why, just run this test run andthey're like, oh my God, how do
I get this to stop?
And then they address anxietyand it goes away.
(35:24):
But what we don't realize isthe foot pain.
The health issue has some typeof emotion connected to it and
if we just really address it andI'm talking about, by the way,
I want to say it because Ialways say I make it look easier
than it is there are a lot ofmisconceptions in working with
the emotions.
(35:45):
For example, all the timepeople will say something like,
oh, I've forgiven this person,and they think that it means the
emotion is gone, which would belike somebody opening their
refrigerator, seeing old foodsitting there and saying I
forgive you, and then closingthe refrigerator and saying,
well, now it's gone.
(36:05):
Well, no, you may have forgivenit, but it is not gone, it is
still there.
Candace Fleming (36:12):
That's hilarious.
Actually, I've actuallyexperienced that before too,
because I'm a big forgiver.
That is a big thing for me.
And then one time the emotioncame back and I was like whoa,
does that mean I didn't forgive?
It's like no, you have to dealwith that emotion right now, and
that's okay.
Brandy Gillmore (36:30):
Exactly Well said.
I love your awarenessAbsolutely, I would say.
Another key insight is this isif we look a little, if we go to
a little technical here forjust a second, if we look at
things like repetition,compulsion, reenactments or
attachment theory, we know thatpatterns breed more of the same,
(36:50):
that our brains have a tendencyto repeat patterns.
In a simple way we can thinkabout this is in two ways.
One we could think about itsimply that maybe somebody has a
pattern of guilt or a patternof self-criticism or anger or
hurt or or wounding or rejectionor abandonment.
There's a pattern, or evenwe've heard before in psychology
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that unfortunately, a woman canhave an abusive father and
leave him and find the abusiveboyfriend, boss, spouse, etc.
Etc.
That pattern can continue, andso part of what happens is we
get sucked into these patternsand we don't even realize that
we're sucked into a pattern, andthen it perpetuates.
And so healing doesn't justrequire changing an emotion, it
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requires real change of apattern.
And a way to illustrate thisfurther is sometimes people will
think oh well, if I do traumahealing, that's enough.
And I would say trauma healingis typically not gonna be enough
to heal the physical body thatwe need to get that pattern.
And a way to illustrate this isimagine for a moment if somebody
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has a pattern of feelingrejection or abandonment or
something like that.
Now there's a couple of things.
Number one they can.
The pattern can be continuing,like they might feel a little
bit today and a little bittomorrow and a little bit last
week and a week before, and soit's ongoing, and then they
might have some major traumasaround it, like maybe their
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husband left or their dad leftwhen they were a kid, and so
they both have a trauma, butthat patterned way of feeling is
still there and so they'll go.
Well, I cleaned up my traumas,but the pattern is still there
and if you still have thatfeeling, it can still affect the
body and then further.
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What happens is a lot of timesbecause these patterns
remanifest, they over and overand over.
If somebody has had thispattern of, let's say, rejection
or abandonment, then whathappens is, let's say, in their
relationship now they might beinsecure, or they might be
jealous, or they their spouse isfive minutes late and they're
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upset, and then what happens, ofcourse, is, as they're upset
and insecure and upset orjealous, then they ruin the
relationship, which then equatesto more abandonment.
And so it's like the woundingcreates the perception, creates
the behavior, creates andmanifests the thing all over
again.
And so when we stay in thesecycles, then we go well, why
(39:21):
isn't my body healing?
Well, no, you wanna heal, youhave to like.
That's what I say, it's realchange.
Candace Fleming (39:30):
That's key.
That's something I've actuallylearned very recently, or at
least within the last threeyears or so.
Is that and people say it allthe time if you want something
different, you have to dosomething different.
You can't keep doing the samethings.
Especially, we noticed this inrelationships.
Trying to change them it's oh,I'll be better, I'll be better,
(39:51):
but you have the same pattern,so you have to change those
patterns.
So I definitely agree with that100% and I can see how that
makes a big difference.
Even with the healing, thetrauma healing and all of that.
It's yeah, you may have workedthrough those things, but what
changed in your behaviors?
Brandy Gillmore (40:09):
So you're gonna get the same things, even
though you may have healed frompast, but you're gonna have new
ones because those patternsdidn't change Exactly and spot
on, and what's, I would say,kind of the hard part or the key
part is this Is it when westart to also realize that our
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emotions control our perception?
That is what's key.
So I call it emotion controlledconsciousness or emotion
controlled perception, and it'slike this.
A simple way to illustrate itis we've all heard before if
somebody's really, really,really in love, what do they see
?
They see all of the good in aperson they see all of the good
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they know.
They don't tell their brain hey,I'm in love with this person.
Just filter and see all thegood.
Or if they've had a relationshipand a connection where they're
really upset or hurt or argumentor whatever, the brain is
automatically fault finding oh,there's this or there's that, or
arguing, and that's automatic.
And this happens at a deeperlevel in our mind from patterns
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that started when we were fouror five years old, and so what's
happening is that ourperception of reality is
constantly being shaped andwe're perceiving things in a way
that is consistent with oursubconscious emotions, and so
then it's hard to get out ofthese, because then we perceive
in a certain way oh, he was fiveminutes late, she was 10
minutes.
Oh no, that's disrespectful.
(41:35):
I can't believe we take it.
It's all of these triggers thathappen and it perpetuates the
problem.
Candace Fleming (41:41):
Yeah, oh my goodness, you just threw that on
me and just I feel like, firstof all, thank you, because I do
feel like I'm doing some decentwork within myself.
But I did hear you mentionedthe Bible earlier.
Do you think that yourspiritual connection has
anything to do with helping theprocess of the physical pain?
Brandy Gillmore (42:07):
I would say yes and no, and yes and no.
Okay, I would say that I wouldsay I mentioned the Bible.
But I would say that when I wasinjured at the time, I was
actually not spiritual at all,and the only reason I mentioned
the Bible is because I thinkit's important to give credit
where credit is due.
So even when it was publishedin the medical journal, I
(42:30):
actually submitted to onemedical journal and they said
you're mentioning the Bible inhere, like because, again,
that's just the oldest way Ifound it written.
So it's not about beingreligious or not religious.
I would say I'm not, the Bibleisn't.
I would say I'm spiritual, notreligious.
So I would say the Bible is nottypically what I'm gonna, it's
not really my thing.
(42:50):
I did grow up of Lutheran faith,but I would say that at the
time I was injured, I would sayI was agnostic, I was not at all
into religion and so.
But I would say integrity issuper important to me.
And so then I didn't publish inthat medical journal.
(43:12):
I published in a different onebecause of that very reason,
because I said, look it, I'mclear on what I've discovered
and whoever discovered otherthings, that's where credit is
due, and so I published it inanother and I said look, this is
written in the Bible, it'swritten in metaphysics, it's
written you know, and so I.
And even when I say you know,stress affects the physical body
(43:33):
, which is psychoneuroimmunology, I did not discover that, so
I'm happy to say these peoplehave all discovered this.
There are things that I figuredout, yes, yeah, and so that's
more so what it's about.
But as far as spiritual, I wouldsay this I would say that we
don't need to necessarily.
(43:54):
I would say the awareness thatour thoughts help create our
lives.
If we have that awareness andwe can come from that place,
that can allow us to then lookat negative patterns and be
willing to make that change andalso help us to get an
excitement about our future, asto what we can change, and that,
(44:15):
I think, is key.
So, whether you wanna call itand I always say this whether
you wanna call it God, universe,divine energy, mother nature,
energy, woo-woo and I like thewoo-woo, by the way, so I'm not
saying that in a drug story-Right, right, openness, openness
, gotcha.
And that's why.
Candace Fleming (44:33):
I said it, I had asked about a post-so
religious, healing spiritual,because you can believe in many
different things.
It doesn't have to be areligion, so belief system.
Brandy Gillmore (44:45):
Exactly, but I would say I just believe if it
was written in something beforethe Bible then I would be saying
, hey, there's this.
So it's just giving creditwhere credit is, and being able
to see this is literally.
This is my other thing.
This information that our mindsthat a merry heart is a
(45:05):
medicine to the body illthoughts will dry the bones has
been around for thousands ofyears.
I would love to see ourgeneration this time where we
make it a reality and where itsays merry heart is a medicine
to the body.
Harvard ran a 20 year study onemotional vitality and basically
(45:26):
optimism that showed that wecould reduce coronary heart
disease by over 50%.
Now coronary heart disease isthe number one cause of death.
And so we go.
Wait a second awesome job.
Harvard, laura Kibcianski didthat and awesome job.
And we can also see like amerry heart is a medicine is
written in the Bible.
(45:47):
So let's do this now, like,let's start seeing the change.
Let's all you know, and sothat's really whatever spiritual
.
I always tell people I don'twanna make it religious, because
I think to be able to make areal change, I think that we
need two things we need peopleto get results and understand
why they're getting results, andwe need to all agree on why
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it's working.
Cause if one person says, oh,it's God, it's Buddha, it's
Jesus, it's energy, it'smetaphysics, it's quantum
physics, then we're never gonnabe able to create a real shift.
And so if we just come back tothe awareness that okay,
whatever you wanna call it, itstarts in the mind, and if we
can just create this shift withemotions, we can create a real
change.
Candace Fleming (46:30):
Brandy, you have been an absolute pleasure,
you have been a powerhouse and Iam grateful to have you on the
show Again.
I want to be.
Is there any last words?
You wanna leave us with ouraudience, cause we are running
on our time And-.
Brandy Gillmore (46:48):
Absolutely, you know.
I just wanna say, Candace, Ilove your heart, I love your
awareness, I just I love yoursmile and I'm just grateful to
be here, and just those samewords that I would love to see
every single person healthy andhappy and living their best life
, and so my hope is thateverybody gets the book and just
starts implementing it.
Candace Fleming (47:07):
Tell us the name of the book again and where
to find it.
Brandy Gillmore (47:11):
It is Master your Mind and Energy to Heal
your Body, and it is availablein bookstores all around and
Barnes & Noble, amazon,anywhere to buy books.
Candace Fleming (47:21):
That is so awesome.
Thank you so much.
How about any social media?
Do you have anywhere?
You want people to follow you.
Brandy Gillmore (47:28):
Absolutely, I'm all on social media Also.
My website is brandygillmore.
com and on it there is a tabthat says See Live Healing and
on it we had talked about themedical equipment earlier and
wanting people to see hey, thisis possible and so you can
actually watch it under video,where Dr Hilary Smith is
scanning a person and I'mshowing them to release their
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pain and you can see it live onthe scan.
So that's fun.
Candace Fleming (47:55):
Thank you, thank you, and, of course, you
all can find me at CandiceFlim.
You can email meCandiceFlimming at
essentialmotivationcom.
The websiteessentialmotivationcom,
instagram, essentialmotivationLLC.
Facebook, essentialmotivation.
We look forward to hearinganything from you.
Like, subscribe, follow Brandy,get her book because I'm
(48:17):
reading it soon.
It should be at my door shortlyand I'm excited, so thank you,
thank you, thank you and guests,please remember to love hard,
forget often and laugh frequent.
Thank you so much, brandy.
Brandy Gillmore (48:32):
I love it.
Thank you, Candice Bye.
Candace Fleming (48:36):
Alright, right alright.
Hello and welcome back to another episode
of essential mental healingwhere I am your host, candace
Fleming.
I'm Candace Fleming, sorry guysJoining me today.
I have a guest, Brandy Gillmore, who is going to talk to us
about healing the pain withinourselves using our minds.
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Who knew how?
Are you Brandi?
Brandy Gillmore (00:31):
I am doing fabulous.
I just adore you and your bigbeautiful smile.
I just I am fantastic and it'swonderful to be here.
Candace Fleming (00:39):
Thank you.
Thank you so much, Brandy.
Can you tell us a little bitabout yourself, who you are and
what we are going to hear abouttoday?
Brandy Gillmore (00:49):
Absolutely.
You know, I have to say, what Ido today is literally the last
thing that I ever thought that Iwould be doing.
In short, I show people how touse their mind to heal their
body, and it's fun.
You can see it under medicalequipment and it's absolutely
mind blowing.
I used to do networkengineering and operations and I
(01:12):
had an accident over 20 yearsago now but it literally changed
every area of my life.
That's what I do is, whendoctors told me I couldn't heal,
or I wasn't going to heal orit's nothing they could do, I
started figuring it out how toheal, and it's just truly
incredible what our minds arecapable of.
Candace Fleming (01:31):
Oh my goodness.
So you had an accident over 20years ago which changed a lot of
your life.
It put you in a wheelchair.
Can you tell us a little bitabout that so that we can know
where we're starting from withthe pain and then where we're at
?
Let's go a little bit throughthat story.
Brandy Gillmore (01:53):
Yeah, absolutely.
In short, to summarize it, Iwas a train wreck.
I went from working like a fulljob and living a full life to,
basically, on a good day I couldget around with my wheelchair
or walker or cane.
On a bad day, I didn't evenmake it out of bed.
Many times I didn't even wantto breathe.
(02:13):
I was just in so much pain anddespite the fact that I was on a
handful of medication, frommorphine and neurontin to
lidoderm I'm just all of thesemedications and I just was still
a mess and I wasn't healing.
And that was my life, and so itwas hard.
Candace Fleming (02:35):
Yeah, and I know you've done a lot of things
trying to figure out how to getthrough that pain.
You said you've done somemeditation.
You've done all of the thingsthey tell you manifesting it and
, like you said, drugs.
You've done a lot of thedifferent steps and it sounds
like they did not work.
Brandy Gillmore (02:56):
Yeah, they did not work and kind of to expound
upon that a bit I would havenerve ablations and maybe that
could help decrease the pain fora little bit, or lighted derm
push.
So I had a lot of trigger pointinjections and nerve ablations
and fusions, all of that, andeven with things like meditation
(03:17):
and whatnot, I could use themand I could get my pain to come
down at times, but I did it foryears and years and years and it
didn't heal my body, it didn'tchange my life, and so it was an
ongoing thing that I was stuckin.
And when I say I did likemeditation and whatnot, I mean I
was meditating and visualizingand binaural beats and fan and
(03:41):
face frequencies and sendingenergy and affirmations and
chanting.
I mean, when one thing didn'twork, I would have another thing
and another thing.
For how many hours and hours aday?
And that's what made me sayokay.
Well, the great thing was isthat as I continue to research,
I could see the evidence of thepower of the mind.
(04:01):
We can see the placebo is wellknown or the nocebo.
Candace Fleming (04:06):
What's a nocebo ?
Stress effects.
Brandy Gillmore (04:08):
I love that the nocebo is basically, if we
believe that, like, okay, sosimply put, a placebo is we
could take a fake pill, and ifwe believe that it's going to do
something for the body likemaybe it's going to help lower
blood pressure it can't.
What's interesting is with thenocebo, if we believe it's going
(04:29):
to affect the body negatively,it can do that too.
The same fake pill, and so,yeah, so it's interesting when
we stop and look at it.
And so that was something to methat was profound is that we
could see all of these differentthings, and I had tried just
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forcing myself to believe I wasalready better, and that didn't
work either, because I thoughtto myself you know, the placebo
is all about belief, but when itwasn't working and I was
forcing myself to believe andbelieve and believe, well over a
year, I was pushing myself.
It wasn't working, and so Istarted researching and trying
(05:14):
to figure out why and what else,and then I came across
something called the open labelplacebo, which is exactly like
it sounds.
It's open label, so both thedoctor and the patient both know
it's fake and it still works,and I was like, wait a second.
And it drove me to figure itout.
You know why.
Candace Fleming (05:37):
So with this, what is it that you do different
than the manifesting the like?
How is it that you're able to?
Because I've seen the studies.
I've seen how people are inexcruciating pain and a half
hour later their pain has comedown.
First of all, that is thefastest non-medicine working
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thing I've ever heard in my life.
To see the heat and I know youall can only hear us, but I'm
going to plug this real quick.
She has a book and it's got allthe pictures and things, but
we'll get to that in a moment,but you can see the heat
radiation on the pain and how itshows.
After the 30 minutes that painis reduced so much.
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I mean like reduce a lot.
I think maybe like 80% or so.
It was a lot of decrease.
Brandy Gillmore (06:28):
And some of them took it all the way and
kind of describe this for amoment for anybody who's
listening is this is what Istarted doing is, once I healed
myself, I thought people aregoing to think this is
impossible and I want everybodyto know that we have this
ability, because I mean, there's1.5 billion people who live in
pain and even illness and allkinds of things I've seen at
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workforce.
So I started trying to figureout how to show people, and at
first I would take people out ofpain and even when I was
speaking on stages, I would, youknow, pick people from the
audience and show them how torelease their pain, and
everybody was always amazed andI thought, you know, I want to
be able to figure out how to dothis under medical equipment.
And so what I started doing isthere's this medical equipment
(07:12):
called medical thermal imaging,and a simple way to describe it
is if we think about, you know,somebody has a sprained ankle or
an infection, it radiates heatand medical thermal imaging can
be detect this heat at a veryadvanced level.
And so what I would do is Istarted working initially with
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Dr Hillary Smith at AdvancedMedical Thermography and I had
her scan somebody who had a lotof neck pain and you could see
on the scan where the neck areawas just all red which shows
pain and inflammation.
And then I would work withsomebody to use their own mind
and you would see in real timeas their red turned to green and
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their pain is gone.
And even in the study that youwere just talking about, candice
is in that yet some people theywould take their pain from a
level five to a level one orpoint five or something like
that, in 22 minutes.
Or another person taking theirpain from a six to a zero in 28
minutes, I believe, and so it's,but you can see it on the scan,
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and so that's what's reallygreat, is it's incredible?
Candace Fleming (08:24):
Is it something that you have to continue to do
to keep the pain away?
Brandy Gillmore (08:29):
That is such a great question, and the answer
is yes and no and yes.
So the number one answer islike.
I haven't had to do anythingfor my healing my physical
healing years and years andyears, and years and years.
You know, I've been healed formore than 14 years, and I
haven't had to do anything now,and I've had people where I'll
show them how to use their mind.
They embody the change, andit's done Like.
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Even on my website, there's avideo of a woman where I did
this, and the video was fromlike eight years ago, and her
neck pain never came back.
However, I want to emphasize, ittakes a real change, and so
some people I've worked withwill make the change, and I'll
tell them you need to followthrough, you have to embrace
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this new way of feeling andthinking, and then maybe they go
home and their spouse triggersthem, or they get upset at the
kids or whatever else that youknow they're from their specific
mindset, and it triggers up andit comes back.
The great thing is, though, isnow they know what the emotional
problem is, what the mindsetshift is, and then they can just
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follow through to then get itgone, and then, once it's gone.
Yeah, it stays gone.
I mean, I have people who havebeen bedridden who now run.
You know, one runs marathons,another one it's just all kinds
of things.
So, in other words, the reasonI said yes and no and yes is it.
Yes, there is follow throughfor genuine change, but once you
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genuinely change, then youdon't have to keep following
through.
Candace Fleming (10:03):
Wow, that is really amazing.
I have a question Do you thinkthere's a way to do that with a
part of the body that'sparalyzed?
Brandy Gillmore (10:14):
Yes, and I would say from personal
experience, I've done that withpeople who are paralyzed also.
Candace Fleming (10:19):
Really, what was your experience of that?
Brandy Gillmore (10:24):
My experience.
One person was from a stroke,another person and multiple
people from MS, which wasactually interesting in MS
because one person, as theystarted to make the change, one
of the first things thathappened is their legs started
jumping, initially paralyzed ina wheelchair, and then, as we
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started making the change, herlegs started jumping.
Now, what was interesting wasthat one time when I was showing
her how to use her mind, shewas sitting at a kitchen table
when her legs first jump.
It wasn't great, because thenit hit the bottom of the table.
So that's something to be laughabout.
Oh, wow.
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But I mean, this is how I lookat it is this?
You asked the question.
You said what is it that I dodifferent in my work than
manifesting?
I would say there are a lot ofkey pieces.
But if I were to simplify, isit okay?
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If we go there?
Does that sound good?
Yeah, okay.
So if we simplify it, some keypieces that I've done
differently to get these resultsis this Is that we know that
stress affects the physical body, and something that was also
really eye opening to me wasalso the awareness of multiple
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personality disorder, or it'snow called disassociative
identity disorder, but theawareness that people can have
different illnesses when they'rein different personalities.
They can have high bloodpressure in one but not in
another.
They can have asthma orallergies, extreme allergies or
pain in one but not in another.
Or there was even a researchstudy of a woman who was blind
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in some personalities but not inanother.
That was medically documented,not like she's pretending to be,
yeah.
So basically what I starteddoing as I started simplifying
it and I said, okay, how can Isee that the mind affects the
physical body?
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I said, okay, well, of course,emotions.
If somebody's embarrassed,their face turns red.
We all know that.
I mean even emojis know that.
Yeah, pretty well, yeah, but wecan see the emotional physical
response or panic attack.
Yeah, somebody can have anxietyand panic and they can have
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those panic attacks, or evensexual thoughts, sexual physical
response.
And of course, I was a mess.
So I thought, well, I'm goingto need a lot more than emotions
to heal my body.
But then I started also lookingat emotions such as broken
heart syndrome, where somebodycan actually die from a broken
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heart or scared to death.
Somebody can be so scared theirheart stops.
Or even I mean there's researchafter study, after study, even
after surgery.
People who are more optimisticheal faster.
Yeah, people who are, you knoware stressed.
They're healing so much slower,more complications, right yeah,
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and I mean so many.
There's one study after another, after another.
I mean even new research evensuggests that autoimmune
conditions are caused by stress,and so there's all of these
different studies.
Or even last year, the SurgeonGeneral released a statement
about loneliness, how it canincrease things like type 2
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diabetes, and so we can see allof these things everywhere.
And so I started looking at itand said, ok, well, ok, I know
this, and there was a few things.
So one thing I did is I lookedat it also objectively and I
said, ok, well, sure, stress canaffect the body, we know that.
But I could also see people whowere really, really stressed,
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maybe PTSD, who weren't sick howis that possible?
And then people who were, so tospeak, less stressed, who had
major illnesses, and what Istarted to realize is that it
takes a combination of emotions,that that was another key, and
a simple way to think about itis if somebody wants to bake a
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cake and they have flour, theydon't, they can't make cake.
But if they have flour and theymix it with eggs and butter,
and other ingredients, yada.
then they can make cake, and ofcourse, illness is not cake.
Candace Fleming (14:55):
But right.
Brandy Gillmore (14:57):
But point being is, different ingredients
create a different recipe, andthat's why somebody like when I
started looking at you know, mpd.
That's how it could be possiblefor a person to have illness in
one personality but not another, and even have a personality
that's completely that has nomedical issues whatsoever, and
so so that was so.
One thing was understandingthat there's a combination, and
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and that was key and one way tothink about this combination.
If you will like, if we make itsuper simple, we could say this
we could say that somebody whomaybe has been sick for a long
period of time, illness mightbecome part of their identity,
the way they see themselves, andso to heal, they would need to
update their self image.
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Or another thing is, we knowthat fear can create feelings of
fight or flight, and so whenyou take that and then you mix
it with other ingredients, andthen you maybe also somebody
might feel unloved.
So then there's loneliness, andso when you add up these
different things, there's key.
There's key categories ofemotions, and some people who
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are very loved still haveillness.
So there's key combinations.
So, basically, that's what I did.
Differently is I said a fewthings.
I said, okay, there'scombinations, that's key.
What are the combinations?
And then, another thing that Idid differently was I said, okay
, well, different emotions,clearly differently
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embarrassment, red face, sexualthoughts, sexual physical
response.
What are all the other emotionsdoing that we don't realize,
like what is a banditman, orhurt, or rejection or anger or
what are?
those doing and so starting torealize that each one of those
emotions, while we think they donothing, they affect us, just
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like a panic attack and anxiety.
Candace Fleming (16:50):
Every emotion, yeah.
Brandy Gillmore (16:52):
They are affecting the physical body and
if we take those emotions andthen we look at the ingredients,
that's the combination.
Candace Fleming (17:01):
Okay, so you started this?
How long after your injury?
Brandy Gillmore (17:07):
I mean, I would say number one.
I would say I am not sure,because when you don't sleep and
you're told that you don'treally feel like you have a
future, you don't know what dayis.
What day I'm going to tell you.
It all kind of runs together,but I can say that I would say
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eight months, maybe a year.
I would say maybe and thatwould be a really great guess
and the reason I know.
Like.
So I was injured in 03, thepicture of the wheelchair, of me
in the wheelchair in a reddress, was from my sister's
wedding in 05.
And already by that point I hadalready said I'm going to be
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healed.
By then, like I was tellingmyself, I'm going to be healed,
I'm going to be walking down theaisle 100%, no cane, no
wheelchair.
So I had already been likedeclaring and telling everybody
that in their lecture and then Ihealed by late 2009, 2010.
So it still took years beyondthat to figure it out because I
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had been doing everything wrong.
Candace Fleming (18:16):
So once you started to figure this out about
using your mind on healing pain, how did you?
How long did it take you to getfrom the wheelchair to walking?
Brandy Gillmore (18:32):
So I would say this.
So a few things.
A lot of times people will seethe wheelchair and they think I
was paralyzed.
I wasn't.
I was a train wreck.
So for me to walk a very shortdistance was extremely painful
and I could do it like with awalker or a cane and it was.
I was very labored, so it washard.
Certain muscle groups hadstopped firing correctly, all of
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that and I had very poorbalance and so so I wasn't
wheelchair like I wasn'tparalyzed.
So there was that.
Candace Fleming (19:02):
So if you said like I think a better example is
this because I was trying tofigure it out, cause, yeah, I
want people to see how you wentfrom- the wheelchair so much
pain cause they don't see who Isee right now until they go hit
Google and see this powerhousewoman who doesn't need any of
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that anymore and physically fitin everything.
So I want them to be able tovisually imagine how this pain
went.
You went from all of this painto the healing process and where
we are, how far you've come, sopeople can know, like this is
not just something we're sayingor you're just yelling out like
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oh well, yeah, I had an accident, I was hurt and now I'm doing,
you know better a little bit,but no, this is a real, total
transformation and it's going tochange the lives of so many
people and I really want them toget this visual of take us
there, take, give us that visual.
Brandy Gillmore (20:04):
I would say this I a better, probably a
better way to, to, to a way tovisualize, I would say, is one.
I would say there was ups anddowns while I was trying to
figure it out.
I would say I went from relyingon a cane and wheelchair and
all of that to working out withbodybuilders as about five month
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period, and basically thesebodybuilders because I, when I
started going to the gym and Iwas weak and started like as so,
basically I started figuringout how to get my pain down and
I was like, oh my gosh, likethis is, this is happening.
And then I was so weak, I meanmy, my legs felt like they were
about the same size as my arms.
I was, I was a mess, and sothen I started, you know,
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working on building my strengthback, and these bodybuilders in
the gym said they were, they hadbeen watching me and they said
I've never seen anybody do whatyou've done.
If you want to work out with us, you can.
And I was like, of course, andso I.
So I started working out withthem and it was and I mean to
give you an idea, you know, whenI got rid of my cane, I was
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like, okay, I'm just going to dothis.
And and I was still like thingsalong the way.
I mean there was a progression.
For example, because I hadworked with a cane or a walker
for so long, or wheelchair, Iwas not used to being able to
keep my own balance, and so onething that I did is I would, as
I was getting better, is I satlike on a yoga ball and I would
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tilt it a little bit to the sideand then put my foot out to
just retrain my reflexes,because what would happen is
basically my whole balance.
Everything was really off.
But I think that probably abetter example is this is a
woman came into my course and ittook her to go from bedridden
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to walking.
About nine months is what ittook her and then two months
later she walked her first minimarathon.
You know how they have theturkey trot type of thing.
So she didn't run it, but shehad to go from.
Yeah.
So I would say I mean I dideverything wrong and I was
trying to figure it out, and soit's hard to really give a
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timeframe, especially whenyou're surviving and you don't
really care about time anymore.
It was just really aboutgetting better, but that's what
I would say is so.
I like to be impeccable with mywords and it's hard to put an
exact, and this is what I wouldsay is also because I don't know
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if you've ever done this, andmaybe anybody who's working on
yourself maybe you decide tostart doing something for
yourself and then somethingcomes up where you like a family
member's upset about X, y, zand you kind of don't put
yourself as much as a priority.
So it was.
I had distractions also, or upsand downs, or stresses that
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then would knock me off kilterand I was figuring it out.
You know, it's just-.
Candace Fleming (23:06):
So you have a book that we can get on Amazon.
What is the name of the book?
And I have some questions aboutit.
Brandy Gillmore (23:15):
It is called Master your Mind and Energy to
Heal your Body.
Candace Fleming (23:20):
Now this book this read.
Does the book include?
Does it tell us how we can dothis from home ourselves, or is
it something that we have tocome to you in order to start
the process?
Brandy Gillmore (23:34):
with.
The book is so packed withinformation.
It is packed Like the firstpart of it is actually my
journey of discovery of okay, Ifound this.
It was to me that those werethe important things.
What do I need to do?
What was the insight that gotme to the next one, to
understand my mind?
So it's funny.
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So you asked me about time.
At that time, time wasirrelevant.
What was it?
Important was the data part ofit, and that was you know.
To be honest, when you're inthat spot, it's kind of like I
don't know.
In your life do you ever feellike time is just passing by and
you go oh my God, it's a yearlater.
Candace Fleming (24:12):
Absolutely.
Do you ever feel Absolutely?
It seems to go faster andfaster the older I get.
Brandy Gillmore (24:19):
And that I mean , and not only that, but time
became a painful thing because Isaw people's lives progressing
without mine, like and you seepeople, oh, they went off and
got married, oh, this one, andyou're grateful and happy for
them, and then at the same timeyou're like God, my life has
been stagnant for seven years,injured.
So you kind of like, just itbecomes a painful topic of time,
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so you kind of check out asmuch as you can on that note.
You know what?
Candace Fleming (24:46):
I mean yeah, yeah for sure.
Brandy Gillmore (24:48):
So anyways, but again the book has the
important things like theresearch going.
Okay, well, there's this andthis, and so that's what part
one is about.
What did I figure out?
Which delves into even more,about understanding it, because
to me once I understood it, thenit was easier to then implement
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.
And then part two is theprocess.
That says here is the four stepprocess and to kind of give more
context to when I said I wasdoing everything wrong, one
thing like there were pivotalmoments for me that helped me to
gain so much more clarity, andone of them is this is I had
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been in this state of meditatingand binaural beats and
frequencies and guidedmeditations and silent
meditations and ashrams.
I was like ashram music, I meanliterally everything you could
think of, and I was doing thisfor like hours and hours a day,
many hours.
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And one of my friends, her aunt, was actually passing from lung
cancer and she called me up andshe said hey, do you wanna go
say goodbye?
And I said yes, of course, andso she came and she picked me up
and we went there and as I wassaying goodbye to this beautiful
soul, it dawned on me she hadbeen in hospice for several
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months and been in and out ofconsciousness and I thought to
myself just when I saw her.
I thought to myself, gosh,that's what I must look like.
And I thought, well, if thisstate of relaxation was so
healing, then why hasn't shehealed?
Why hasn't anybody in theirfinal days healed from the
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particular illness or ailment?
And that was really.
There was just certain pivotalinsights and I saw that I was
like I can't lay here and justlisten to binaural beats and be
in a hypnosis and Delta stateand Theta state, like I need to
figure this out.
So it was that there was keyinsights that were just pivotal
along the way that helped me torealize that I needed to get
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more clarity to do what I neededto do.
Candace Fleming (27:03):
What you just said made me think of something
else, so this helped you.
You figured out how to bringthe pain down.
Does this also include healingthe illnesses?
Brandy Gillmore (27:19):
Yes, so, and this is the way I see it is
first and foremost to give youan example.
You know I've seen I workedwith a woman who had a tumor in
her throat and the tumor hadbeen there several months.
She had tried everything to getrid of it and basically right
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before her surgery so it wasn'tgoing away.
She scheduled surgery.
She had another MRI.
They could see that the tumorwas five millimeters.
You could see it protrudingfrom her throat.
Her surgery was scheduled forFriday.
Her and I worked on Thursdayand the tumor disappeared.
Candace Fleming (27:59):
Wait, wait.
I need to backtrack.
Can you say that one more time?
I just want to make sure Iheard it right, because I feel
like I heard something wrong.
Brandy Gillmore (28:06):
Okay, so she had a tumor in her throat, right
, right.
It had been there for like fouror five months.
Four or five months got it, andshe had tried everything to get
rid of it and it wasn't goingaway.
Didn't go away.
So she scheduled a surgery.
She had a pre-op MRI whichshowed the tumor was there in
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her throat, the tumor there Fivemillimeters, yeah, five
millimeters.
And so that pre-op MRI, thenshe was scheduled for surgery
that Friday, that Friday, that'sonly a couple of days.
Only a couple of days.
Her and I worked on Thursday,the day before surgery, and we
worked and as we did her tumorwent away.
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Now she didn't really believe.
She thought, oh, that must havejust moved or something like
that.
Cause the idea of it, you know,going away.
But either way, I always tellpeople always, always, always,
see your doctors, even if youthink the issue is always,
always, always so either way.
She showed up for surgery thenext day and she was like, well,
I think, can you check if it'sthere?
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And the hospital was like no,no, no, we're sure it's still
there.
She's like can you check?
They're like no, we're sure.
So they got her all drugged upand everything for it and she
was like with the doctor rightbefore.
She was like, can you just justdouble check?
And he they couldn't find it.
And and he's, he's.
He said as an ENT, he's been atENT for 30 years and never seen
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anything like that in his 30years of practice.
Candace Fleming (29:35):
Oh, my goodness .
Brandy Gillmore (29:38):
That's a major.
It's amazing and incredible,and we all know that stress
affects the body.
So it's, it's not, it's.
I mean, she did it, sheembodied the change.
And then I've seen people alsowho message in, who have RA, you
know, rheumatoid arthritis, andtheir numbers are off the
charts.
And then they email back in andtheir pain is gone, their feet
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are no longer inflamed, theirinflammation is gone, and
they're like look at my numbers.
My doctor can't, like, can'tbelieve this has actually
happened and everything'snormalized and and and it's
incredible and and that's thereason that I wanted to start
showing it under medicalequipment is it's not that I'm
so amazing to heal?
I mean, yes, I'm amazing, butwe're all amazing beings.
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Wow, this is this is.
What's incredible, though, alsois even the Bible, 3000 years
ago, says a Mary heart is amedicine to the body.
Ill thoughts will dry the bones, and we have known throughout
history, like every spiritualpractice, and then even, of
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course, more recently, in the1970s, it was proven stress
affects the immune system,stress affects the body.
I mean, we see it back to backto back everywhere and it's like
OK, well, instead of justsaying that stress affects us,
what if we start undoing this?
Candace Fleming (30:58):
Wow, that that's, that's mind blowing,
legit mind blowing, that I hadto have you repeat it twice.
Brandy Gillmore (31:06):
Oh, so the great thing is.
By the way, just so you know,there is actually a video on my
website of this woman standingoutside of the hospital in tears
and she's like she.
She did it on Facebook livejust for her her friends and
family.
She was like guys.
And she's like my surgery justwas canceled and I got my $1,200
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co-pay back and I'm going to goshopping Good for her Right.
But you can see she's literallystanding outside of the
hospital in tears.
Candace Fleming (31:38):
Wow, do you know how many people you've
helped?
Brandy Gillmore (31:42):
Do I know I have a video course now and I do
classes, and so I, you know, Ilike to be impeccable with my
words and I can just say I wouldsay in two ways.
I would say that I would saynumber one a lot.
And I would say number two,they've helped themselves
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because basically that's whathappens People heal themselves,
so I don't do it.
But what's beautiful is evenyeah, it's just so, I mean, with
the classes.
Sometimes there'll be 250people in a class or something
like that, and so I couldn'teven corner.
Candace Fleming (32:20):
I would have a hard time knowing so at this
point after hearing thisinformation, if I was a listener
, I'd be like tell me where togo.
How do I make this happen formyself?
Like I don't want to wait.
I just tell me.
How do they find out where?
How do they get thisinformation?
How did they get to you?
Are they doing one-on-ones withyou, or is it the video that
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goes out?
Tell us about what the nextstep is for those who are
looking to get to justexperience.
Brandy Gillmore (32:50):
Yeah, this is what I would say Get the book.
Like, get the book, becausewhen we understand how to do it,
this is what's great We've allheard of, like, you know,
meditation, or positive thinking, or letting go of trauma,
healing, or you know it's so.
So, basically, what I've doneis I've been doing it.
Basically.
What I've done is just taken itand say, okay, how do we just,
how do we get results?
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Because I want to emphasize, Imake it look really easy.
And that's what I literally sayat the end of every video or
every recording that I do, whenI like when I work with people
and show them how to shift outof pain.
I literally say, like end ofevery everything I say I make
this look really easy.
And it is because number one, afew things I've been working
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with the mind for a long periodof time and I understand it in a
different way than people do,and and so.
So that's what I would say.
I would say get the book,understand it.
Because it's kind of like thiswhen people go to work with
their mind, they a lot of timesjust try to do everything all at
once.
Now, let's be honest, if we goto put on our pants.
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Let's say, we put on our shoesbefore we put on our pants it
would feel like it's really hardto get dressed in the morning,
like it's impossible, right?
You know, if we said, oh well,I'm going to drive a car and
then I'm going to put the like,then I'm going to start it, we'd
be like my car won't drive andit's like.
Or even if we go to speak wordsor the alphabet, there is an
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order to everything we do.
Yes, you know, if we go to eatfood and then cook it, you know,
or like, there's an order toliterally everything we do.
And when it comes to workingwith the mind, people are like
let me just do this and do this.
There's an order.
Like, every time I work withsomebody, there is an order that
makes it doable, that makes itto be able to get results.
So I would say, just under themore we understand how to do it,
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because it does take anunderstanding.
And then what's really great,though, is I'll see people who
go through the video course allthe time, who go through my
video course, go, oh my gosh,like I just released my own pain
, I just released my headaches,I just and it's incredible what
we're capable of.
But a simple way to think aboutit is like this Imagine if
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everybody's walking around, witha bunch of people walking
around with a panic anxietyattack and they didn't know it
was connected to emotions andthey were like I don't know my
heart's racing, my chest isbeating, like I don't even know
why, just run this test run andthey're like, oh my God, how do
I get this to stop?
And then they address anxietyand it goes away.
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But what we don't realize isthe foot pain.
The health issue has some typeof emotion connected to it and
if we just really address it andI'm talking about, by the way,
I want to say it because Ialways say I make it look easier
than it is there are a lot ofmisconceptions in working with
the emotions.
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For example, all the timepeople will say something like,
oh, I've forgiven this person,and they think that it means the
emotion is gone, which would belike somebody opening their
refrigerator, seeing old foodsitting there and saying I
forgive you, and then closingthe refrigerator and saying,
well, now it's gone.
(36:05):
Well, no, you may have forgivenit, but it is not gone, it is
still there.
Candace Fleming (36:12):
That's hilarious.
Actually, I've actuallyexperienced that before too,
because I'm a big forgiver.
That is a big thing for me.
And then one time the emotioncame back and I was like whoa,
does that mean I didn't forgive?
It's like no, you have to dealwith that emotion right now, and
that's okay.
Brandy Gillmore (36:30):
Exactly Well said.
I love your awarenessAbsolutely, I would say.
Another key insight is this isif we look a little, if we go to
a little technical here forjust a second, if we look at
things like repetition,compulsion, reenactments or
attachment theory, we know thatpatterns breed more of the same,
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that our brains have a tendencyto repeat patterns.
In a simple way we can thinkabout this is in two ways.
One we could think about itsimply that maybe somebody has a
pattern of guilt or a patternof self-criticism or anger or
hurt or or wounding or rejectionor abandonment.
There's a pattern, or evenwe've heard before in psychology
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that unfortunately, a woman canhave an abusive father and
leave him and find the abusiveboyfriend, boss, spouse, etc.
Etc.
That pattern can continue, andso part of what happens is we
get sucked into these patternsand we don't even realize that
we're sucked into a pattern, andthen it perpetuates.
And so healing doesn't justrequire changing an emotion, it
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requires real change of apattern.
And a way to illustrate thisfurther is sometimes people will
think oh well, if I do traumahealing, that's enough.
And I would say trauma healingis typically not gonna be enough
to heal the physical body thatwe need to get that pattern.
And a way to illustrate this isimagine for a moment if somebody
(37:59):
has a pattern of feelingrejection or abandonment or
something like that.
Now there's a couple of things.
Number one they can.
The pattern can be continuing,like they might feel a little
bit today and a little bittomorrow and a little bit last
week and a week before, and soit's ongoing, and then they
might have some major traumasaround it, like maybe their
(38:20):
husband left or their dad leftwhen they were a kid, and so
they both have a trauma, butthat patterned way of feeling is
still there and so they'll go.
Well, I cleaned up my traumas,but the pattern is still there
and if you still have thatfeeling, it can still affect the
body and then further.
(38:40):
What happens is a lot of timesbecause these patterns
remanifest, they over and overand over.
If somebody has had thispattern of, let's say, rejection
or abandonment, then whathappens is, let's say, in their
relationship now they might beinsecure, or they might be
jealous, or they their spouse isfive minutes late and they're
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upset, and then what happens, ofcourse, is, as they're upset
and insecure and upset orjealous, then they ruin the
relationship, which then equatesto more abandonment.
And so it's like the woundingcreates the perception, creates
the behavior, creates andmanifests the thing all over
again.
And so when we stay in thesecycles, then we go well, why
(39:21):
isn't my body healing?
Well, no, you wanna heal, youhave to like.
That's what I say, it's realchange.
Candace Fleming (39:30):
That's key.
That's something I've actuallylearned very recently, or at
least within the last threeyears or so.
Is that and people say it allthe time if you want something
different, you have to dosomething different.
You can't keep doing the samethings.
Especially, we noticed this inrelationships.
Trying to change them it's oh,I'll be better, I'll be better,
(39:51):
but you have the same pattern,so you have to change those
patterns.
So I definitely agree with that100% and I can see how that
makes a big difference.
Even with the healing, thetrauma healing and all of that.
It's yeah, you may have workedthrough those things, but what
changed in your behaviors?
Brandy Gillmore (40:09):
So you're gonna get the same things, even
though you may have healed frompast, but you're gonna have new
ones because those patternsdidn't change Exactly and spot
on, and what's, I would say,kind of the hard part or the key
part is this Is it when westart to also realize that our
(40:30):
emotions control our perception?
That is what's key.
So I call it emotion controlledconsciousness or emotion
controlled perception, and it'slike this.
A simple way to illustrate itis we've all heard before if
somebody's really, really,really in love, what do they see
?
They see all of the good in aperson they see all of the good
(40:52):
they know.
They don't tell their brain hey,I'm in love with this person.
Just filter and see all thegood.
Or if they've had a relationshipand a connection where they're
really upset or hurt or argumentor whatever, the brain is
automatically fault finding oh,there's this or there's that, or
arguing, and that's automatic.
And this happens at a deeperlevel in our mind from patterns
(41:15):
that started when we were fouror five years old, and so what's
happening is that ourperception of reality is
constantly being shaped andwe're perceiving things in a way
that is consistent with oursubconscious emotions, and so
then it's hard to get out ofthese, because then we perceive
in a certain way oh, he was fiveminutes late, she was 10
minutes.
Oh no, that's disrespectful.
(41:35):
I can't believe we take it.
It's all of these triggers thathappen and it perpetuates the
problem.
Candace Fleming (41:41):
Yeah, oh my goodness, you just threw that on
me and just I feel like, firstof all, thank you, because I do
feel like I'm doing some decentwork within myself.
But I did hear you mentionedthe Bible earlier.
Do you think that yourspiritual connection has
anything to do with helping theprocess of the physical pain?
Brandy Gillmore (42:07):
I would say yes and no, and yes and no.
Okay, I would say that I wouldsay I mentioned the Bible.
But I would say that when I wasinjured at the time, I was
actually not spiritual at all,and the only reason I mentioned
the Bible is because I thinkit's important to give credit
where credit is due.
So even when it was publishedin the medical journal, I
(42:30):
actually submitted to onemedical journal and they said
you're mentioning the Bible inhere, like because, again,
that's just the oldest way Ifound it written.
So it's not about beingreligious or not religious.
I would say I'm not, the Bibleisn't.
I would say I'm spiritual, notreligious.
So I would say the Bible is nottypically what I'm gonna, it's
not really my thing.
(42:50):
I did grow up of Lutheran faith,but I would say that at the
time I was injured, I would sayI was agnostic, I was not at all
into religion and so.
But I would say integrity issuper important to me.
And so then I didn't publish inthat medical journal.
(43:12):
I published in a different onebecause of that very reason,
because I said, look it, I'mclear on what I've discovered
and whoever discovered otherthings, that's where credit is
due, and so I published it inanother and I said look, this is
written in the Bible, it'swritten in metaphysics, it's
written you know, and so I.
And even when I say you know,stress affects the physical body
(43:33):
, which is psychoneuroimmunology, I did not discover that, so
I'm happy to say these peoplehave all discovered this.
There are things that I figuredout, yes, yeah, and so that's
more so what it's about.
But as far as spiritual, I wouldsay this I would say that we
don't need to necessarily.
(43:54):
I would say the awareness thatour thoughts help create our
lives.
If we have that awareness andwe can come from that place,
that can allow us to then lookat negative patterns and be
willing to make that change andalso help us to get an
excitement about our future, asto what we can change, and that,
(44:15):
I think, is key.
So, whether you wanna call itand I always say this whether
you wanna call it God, universe,divine energy, mother nature,
energy, woo-woo and I like thewoo-woo, by the way, so I'm not
saying that in a drug story-Right, right, openness, openness
, gotcha.
And that's why.
Candace Fleming (44:33):
I said it, I had asked about a post-so
religious, healing spiritual,because you can believe in many
different things.
It doesn't have to be areligion, so belief system.
Brandy Gillmore (44:45):
Exactly, but I would say I just believe if it
was written in something beforethe Bible then I would be saying
, hey, there's this.
So it's just giving creditwhere credit is, and being able
to see this is literally.
This is my other thing.
This information that our mindsthat a merry heart is a
(45:05):
medicine to the body illthoughts will dry the bones has
been around for thousands ofyears.
I would love to see ourgeneration this time where we
make it a reality and where itsays merry heart is a medicine
to the body.
Harvard ran a 20 year study onemotional vitality and basically
(45:26):
optimism that showed that wecould reduce coronary heart
disease by over 50%.
Now coronary heart disease isthe number one cause of death.
And so we go.
Wait a second awesome job.
Harvard, laura Kibcianski didthat and awesome job.
And we can also see like amerry heart is a medicine is
written in the Bible.
(45:47):
So let's do this now, like,let's start seeing the change.
Let's all you know, and sothat's really whatever spiritual
.
I always tell people I don'twanna make it religious, because
I think to be able to make areal change, I think that we
need two things we need peopleto get results and understand
why they're getting results, andwe need to all agree on why
(46:10):
it's working.
Cause if one person says, oh,it's God, it's Buddha, it's
Jesus, it's energy, it'smetaphysics, it's quantum
physics, then we're never gonnabe able to create a real shift.
And so if we just come back tothe awareness that okay,
whatever you wanna call it, itstarts in the mind, and if we
can just create this shift withemotions, we can create a real
change.
Candace Fleming (46:30):
Brandy, you have been an absolute pleasure,
you have been a powerhouse and Iam grateful to have you on the
show Again.
I want to be.
Is there any last words?
You wanna leave us with ouraudience, cause we are running
on our time And-.
Brandy Gillmore (46:48):
Absolutely, you know.
I just wanna say, Candace, Ilove your heart, I love your
awareness, I just I love yoursmile and I'm just grateful to
be here, and just those samewords that I would love to see
every single person healthy andhappy and living their best life
, and so my hope is thateverybody gets the book and just
starts implementing it.
Candace Fleming (47:07):
Tell us the name of the book again and where
to find it.
Brandy Gillmore (47:11):
It is Master your Mind and Energy to Heal
your Body, and it is availablein bookstores all around and
Barnes & Noble, amazon,anywhere to buy books.
Candace Fleming (47:21):
That is so awesome.
Thank you so much.
How about any social media?
Do you have anywhere?
You want people to follow you.
Brandy Gillmore (47:28):
Absolutely, I'm all on social media Also.
My website is brandygillmore.
com and on it there is a tabthat says See Live Healing and
on it we had talked about themedical equipment earlier and
wanting people to see hey, thisis possible and so you can
actually watch it under video,where Dr Hilary Smith is
scanning a person and I'mshowing them to release their
(47:52):
pain and you can see it live onthe scan.
So that's fun.
Candace Fleming (47:55):
Thank you, thank you, and, of course, you
all can find me at CandiceFlim.
You can email meCandiceFlimming at
essentialmotivationcom.
The websiteessentialmotivationcom,
instagram, essentialmotivationLLC.
Facebook, essentialmotivation.
We look forward to hearinganything from you.
Like, subscribe, follow Brandy,get her book because I'm
(48:17):
reading it soon.
It should be at my door shortlyand I'm excited, so thank you,
thank you, thank you and guests,please remember to love hard,
forget often and laugh frequent.
Thank you so much, brandy.
Brandy Gillmore (48:32):
I love it.
Thank you, Candice Bye.
Candace Fleming (48:36):
Alright, right alright.
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