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Week One of the pre seasons inthe books, and it's time to
start getting our list togetherto get our draft so that we're
going to talk about top 20running backs this week. So
hopefully you're pumped. I am. Ilove talking about running
backs. Why? Because Jameer Gibbsis the best running back out
there. Do I think he's numberone overall, and we'll see. All
right, like we talked about lastyear, when I'm coming up with my
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list, I'm thinking aboutpotential and opportunity. Now,
I do not try to bring in injurythought processes. I'm assuming
that everyone's gonna get 1617,games, so I'm kind of keeping
them all on an equal level. ButI'm gonna throw in some injuries
this time, because there aresome people out there who have
some real issues, and they needto be discussed, and you need to
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consider these before you'reeven drafted. All right, let's
jump right into it. The numberone running back from last year
was Jameer Gibbs. I do not havehim as number one overall this
year, and we'll talk about why,but my number one overall pick
for running back is BijanRobinson. Now I love Robinson.
He's on a team with a lot ofpotential. They give him the
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ball, so plenty of opportunity.
They have an easy strength ofschedule. There is literally no
one behind him. Alger, I forgotwho that guy is. I mean,
honestly, there is nobody behindhim. So he's going to get the
rock. He's going to get over 300carries, just like he did last
year. He's going to see 72 maybeeven 80 targets this year. I
think his receiving touchdownnumbers are going to increase,
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which is why he's going toovertake as number one, his easy
schedule, combined with the factthat there is no one behind him,
and the guy is a beast andAtlanta is only going to get
better, makes him the number oneoverall guy. And number two,
this is where I have JameerGibbs, and this is a tough one,
because a lot of people aregoing to argue that saquon
Barkley last year's number twoshould be number two or even
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number one. Now Gibbs was numberone last year. Running backs
don't repeat year to year.
That's an anomaly. So the thingthat Gibbs is going to be number
one again this year. That's astretch, plus he had 20 total
touchdowns last year. That isreally hard to repeat. So I
think he falls back a couple oftouchdowns this year, that plus
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literally the toughest scheduleout there. I mean, a bottom five
schedule for running back. Imean, they have to go away at
every single top team this year.
What it's just pathetic. The NFCNorth is just awful. As far as
schedule is concerned, you canreally tell that the NFL didn't
want the lions or anyone elsefrom the NFC North even getting
close to the NFC Championshipgame. They just made it almost
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impossible. I digress, whatever,but Gibbs is number two. Too
much opportunity. Yes,Montgomery is still there. But
even with Montgomery there, hehad 20 total touchdowns, almost
2000 total yards. The guy's abeast. He's awesome. Draft of
confidence. Number three, I haveBarkley, for all the reasons
that you would think 2000 yardrusher, he's got a tougher
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schedule. Is hertz gonna throwthe ball more because now that
they've got a ring, he's like,all right, I don't have to feed
it to this dude. He got his 2000yards. You got yours? I want to
get mine. Contract year comingup. I want my money. Barkley
still going to be outstandingagain. No one really behind him.
He's got a tough schedule,though, and he's got a new
offensive coordinator, so that'sgoing to drop him down to three
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I think for me overall, still avery solid pick in the first
round. The fourth overall guy Ihave is Derek Henry. Now
everyone's like, what aboutjanty? I don't understand. He's
coming fourth off the board, andhe's in the first round. Janty
is a rookie. He doesn't know howto pick up solid pass pro. He is
on the Raiders. Everyone iscompletely over hyping this kid.
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I talked about him in the rookiesegment, but janty is not going
to give you top 10 running backnumbers of this year. Yes, he
has plenty of opportunity andpotential. It's still the
Raiders. So where do I look? Ilook at Derrick Henry. What did
he do last year? And the guy islike, 31 years old. He averaged
5.9 yards a carry on 325 rushingattempts in the history of the
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NFL. Only three running backshave ever averaged six yards or
more with over 300 carries in aseason. My man, Barry Sanders,
holds the mark at 6.1 in the NFLrecord books with over 300
carries in a season, 1997 thenyou have OJ. Where's my Bronco?
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Simpson at 6.0 and then AdrianPeterson at 6.0 back in the day,
that's it. And then there'sDerek Henry at 5.9
this guy is a beast. His workethic is amazing. He keeps
himself in incredible health,and he plays a. On one of the
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best teams out there, and, oh,by the way, their schedule is
easy, and there's nobody behindhim. If you don't think this guy
isn't going to get another 300carries, you're wrong. He's
going to get 16 totaltouchdowns, at least. Yes, he
doesn't catch a whole lot ofballs. So if you're in a non PPR
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league. And remember, we'retalking PPR leagues here,
because most leagues are PPR ifyou're in a non PPR League,
first of all, switch to a PPRLeague. Do the smart thing.
Second of all, Derek Henry isgoing to drop a little bit if
you're in a non PPR League.
Otherwise, go get him. I mean,even if you're non PPR and you
pick him up with the fourthoverall or as the fourth overall
running back. That's still asteal. Moving on in the fifth
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position, I have Jacobs now. Iknow in the fifth position,
McCaffrey is the one coming offthe board in the first round.
We've talked about McCaffrey andhis injuries. I really don't
need to go there. I'm nottouching him this year. Same
thing with janty. I'm going tolet everyone else pick them in
the first round, or I will picksomeone else. But my number five
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overall running back is Jacobs.
He's a three down workhorseback. He gets all the goal line
carries. He has an easy strengthof schedule. Last season, over
300 carries, 15 touchdowns, 1300yards rushing, 43 catches and a
touchdown. He's pushing almost1800 yards total. There is no
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way that anyone is going tosupplant that. No way. I don't
care who they bring in. I'mlike, oh, Brooks can do this.
Oh, well, he can do this. Now,Jacobs is still going to
dominate. He's your number fiveand number six. Bucky Irving,
now, I love Bucky. Last year,everybody know I was hyping him
up for good reason. He's atalented kid. What do we see or
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happen two days ago, whitebusted his groin, and then he
went back into the game. This isthe interesting thing, if you're
watching the game, which I waslive, I could see that he
injured is growing when he ranout of bounds. His problem is he
went back in there with theinjury. You could see it. He had
it and he ran the next play. Thereason why he did that is he's
afraid of losing his rosterspot. You can see it if he's
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afraid of losing his rosterspot, that means that, my man,
Bucky, is all over. The numberone, so Bucky, number six,
opportunity potential totallythere. I think he gets more
carries. I think he catches theball more I think he gets more
touchdowns. This should be ahuge, huge year for Bucky. And
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number seven, I have KyronWilliams now. Everyone's going
to be like, Oh, but Blakequorum, oh, but this. Oh, but
that. Yeah, they were saying thesame thing last year. Here's a
guy who is averaging 85% of thetotal snap count over the last
three years for his team, andhe's the only guy in the NFL
who's done that. This guy playsevery play. He is a three down
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back with the potential of 15 to16 touchdowns and oh, by the
way, Cooper cup is gone. Allright, so they're gonna have to
lean on Kyron even more. BlakeCorum looked good in preseason,
but that's preseason, and again,is the Kyron Williams Show. So I
have him at number seven. Nobrainer in the number eight
position. Last year's number 10back is Chase brown. Now I'm a
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little bit worried about Chasebrown, a little bit worried
about his health. I mean, heplayed 16 games last year, so
I'm not like terribly worriedand chase Brown. The big thing
about Chase Brown is he gets alot of touchdowns and he catches
a lot of balls. So last year, hehad 11 touchdowns, caught 65
finished again as number 10. Ithink there's a lot of upside
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for him. There's really nobackup at all this year, and he
has all the opportunity and asuper easy strength of schedule.
I think this sets up for Chasebrown to crack the top 10 and
finish number eight this year,all right. And number nine, I
have Devon a chain now, a chainis coming off pretty early. I
mean, when you look at the draftboard, he's coming off as the
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sixth overall running back.
Correction, seventh overallrunning back. Of course, janty
and McCaffrey are ahead of him,which I haven't even gotten to
yet, but he's coming off in theearly the second round, and
that's the right place for him.
He has an easy schedule. I thinkMiami takes a little bit of a
step back offensively, but youcan't deny the fact that last
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year he caught the most balls asa running back, 78 now he saw
two less balls than Kamara,who's coming up here pretty
soon, but he caught 78 for sixtouchdowns. That's where he does
his biggest damage. He only saw200 carries last year. Miami was
hurting. They had to throw theball a little bit more. I think
if Miami can put it a little bitmore together, he's ready for a
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top 10 finish again. I don'tthink he finished his top five
like he did last year. At number10, I have James Cook. This is a
dangerous pick, because he'swhining about his pain. Day, and
he wants to get his and yeah, hehad a huge season last year, 16
touchdowns, over 1000 yards.
James Cook, legitimately shouldget paid. There is no question.
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However. Comma, sitting downain't gonna help him. He's got
an easy strength to schedule,same team, same playbook. He
needs to get his vote back outthere, and if he does, he's
going to have a solid top 10finish. The big worry here is,
obviously, is he going to extendthis hold out through the entire
preseason, into the regularseason? I don't think so. I
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think you can draft him withconfidence, because in the end,
he knows he needs to perform toget paid. All right, that's your
top 10. Let's take a quick pausehere. I know a lot of people are
gonna disagree with my top four.
That's fine. I don't care ifGibbs is four, if Henry's number
one, or if Barkley finishesthree or one, it doesn't really
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matter if you get any one ofthose top four guys, you're
gonna dominate your league.
Obviously, if one of them getshurt, people get hurt. That's
just the way it is. But you aregoing to dominate your league if
you have one of those top fourguys. And when you're looking at
the first round, yeah, you haveJamar Chase as the number one
overall. But if you want to gorunning back, I would get one of
those four guys for sure. Andthen there, yeah, there's
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Jefferson CD lamb at neighbors.
I think this year, little bit ofa tangent here. I think this
year, if you have an early pick,is the year to go get a running
back. Love Jamar chase. Theguy's a beast. He's going to be
huge at the wide receiverposition, but there is a
significant drop off once youget past the top five six
running backs in total points.
And I mean, huge and yeah, youcan make the argument that if
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Chase stays healthy, there is abig drop off in the wide
receiver core, yes, but I canput together a wide receiver
core that can make up for that.
There aren't a whole lot ofrunning backs that I can make up
for a Bajan Robinson, Barkley orGibbs, as last year, most of you
all find out. Sidebar over, likeI said, if I get any one of
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those top four guys, I am superhappy if I get anyone in five
through seven, five througheight, I'm happy as well. Eight,
nine and 10. Yeah, they could goprobably three or four slots
down from there, but that'sstill a solid running back. Most
of those guys you're gonna pickup in the second, third round
anyway. So you probably startedwith wide receiver, if that's
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what you're up against. Or youjust put two of those top 10
running backs together, and nowyou have a huge team because you
went zero wide receiver. That isa strategy we'll talk about
later. At number 11, I havebreeze Hall. I struggle with
this one a little bit, and Iknow he's coming off in the
third round, in the middle ofthe third round, so his ranking
is about Roer. He's coming offin the as far as ADP is
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concerned. Breece Hall is on ateam with Justin fields. I'm not
a Justin fields fan again, helooks at his first read and then
he runs. So unless Brees Hall isintentionally his first read or
it's a running play, directly toBrees Hall. This could be an
issue for Brees Hall. I mean, hehad Aaron Rodgers last year, who
was not stellar, as we know, got76 targets, 57 catches. That's a
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lot of targets. So in a PPRLeague, that's the kind of guy
you want. I think fields mightgive them more opportunities at
touchdowns, or at least he'sgoing to lean on running backs
more. I hope he does. But thebottom line is, I think breeze
Hall, he finishes about wherehis ADP is at number 11 overall.
At number 12, I have AlvinKamara now. I kind of wanted to
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push Alvin Kamara back into thetop 10 again. New Orleans is
just a train wreck this year, aseveryone knows. But the fact of
the matter is, is, regardless ifthey're a train wreck like they
were last year, he is the numberone player, 89 targets, 68
catches. That's huge. Yeah, hewent under 1000 yards, only got
six touchdowns on the ground.
But if you're looking for a PPRmonster, this is a guy. I mean,
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he still was in the top 10 lastyear, finished number nine. That
is huge. And where are you goingto find Kamara right now you're
going to find them late in thefourth round. That is huge. If
you go zero running back for thefirst three rounds. This is the
guy you're going to target inthe fourth round. So go get him.
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And number 13, I have AaronJones. Now a lot of people are
worried about Aaron Jones,because, yeah, you know, the
Vikings went out and got Mason.
I get it. There's a little bitof a concern there, but I still
think he sees similar numbers tolast year. I don't really see
any kind of drop off, as far ashe's concerned. That combined
with his, you know, decentschedule, I think puts him in a
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position to be successful. Stillhas Justin Jefferson out there
commanding a lot of theattention, and that gives him
some open opportunities. Andthen Justin Jefferson, Addison,
they're going to get him closeto the goal line, and he's going
to get his chances, right. Imean, last year, what did he do?
He put up five touchdowns on theground, not a whole lot, 1100
yards, but 62 targets, 51catches. That puts him at a
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solid 13. That's a good. Got togo get all right at number 14, I
have Tony Pollard. Tony Pollardhad a huge year last year, over
1000 yards, five touchdowns,caught 41 balls for a really,
really bad team. Now I know it'sTennessee, and they have a
rookie quarterback. However,Taji Spears is hurt. I think
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Tony Pollard continues to getthe same numbers that he had
last year, maybe even a littlebit more, maybe an extra
touchdown, maybe an extra twotouchdowns, which would put him
solidly in the conversation fora top 20, top 15 finish. And I
have him at 14 and number 15.
Truth be told, this is not myfavorite player. Jonathan
Taylor. Now Jonathan Taylorcontinuously gets himself in the
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top 20. So you have to putJonathan Taylor in the top 20,
and I have him at 15. Thequarterback position in
Indianapolis is a training like,just like it was last year. Last
year, Jonathan Taylor had 11touchdowns, 1400 yards on the
ground, and he caught 18 ballsfor another touchdown. That
sounds like really, really goodnumbers, but he didn't look that
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good, actually, at all. If youdig deep into his schedule from
last year, he got most of histouchdowns, six out of 11 in the
last three weeks of the season.
Now, if you had this guy ridingthe pine, and then you pulled
him out in the fantasy playoffs,in the Super Bowl,
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congratulations, if you're in abasketball league. And he was
like, not helping you out, andthen all of a sudden, he won you
a championship. Congratulations.
But you didn't even make it tothe playoffs in a regular
League, because this guycouldn't get it done until the
last three weeks of the season,you were thinking, oh, man, if I
were in the playoffs, I wouldhave won it all. Well, that's
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the problem with JonathanTaylor. He wasted all of that in
the last three weeks of theseason, and there's a reason for
that. They were playing fornothing. They had nothing to
lose. They basically just wentout there and rode him until he
couldn't handle it anymore. Hemissed three games last year. He
misses games every year, andthat's a problem with Jonathan
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Taylor. Even though he missesgames, he could still finish in
the top 20. So even though Ihave him ranked at 15, if he
finishes 17, 1819, it wouldn'tsurprise me, but he's still
going to be in the top 20 atnumber 16. Here's where I have
CMC. Everyone's thinking, Well,why are we even going to talk
about Christian McCaffrey?
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Because Christian McCaffrey isgoing to play half a season, if
he's lucky. His injuries arecatastrophic. There's no other
way to put it. If you draft himin the first round, you are
going to be disappointed, justlike you were last year. This
kid is a beast. He's put hisentire body through hell, but
unfortunately, there's just nocoming back from this. I really
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I hope and pray for the guy. Iwant the best for him. He seems
like a really great dude. In theend, the injuries have caught up
with this young man, and I justdon't see it happening this
year. If you draft him, youabsolutely have to get grendo as
a handcuff. I mean, that has tobe a priority, because I'll tell
you what I'm doing. I'mtargeting grendo As soon as I
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can get him. Because whenMcCaffrey goes down and he will,
unfortunately, Grendel is goingto get 2025. Touches his game,
all right? And Number 17, thisis where I have janty. Yeah, I
throw them all my way. I want tohear all the hate mail. Come on.
Come on. I want to hear it allbecause, I mean, seriously, I
deserve it. No, I don't.
Absolutely not. He's a rookie.
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He's not going to be the numberfour overall running back. I'm
not going to take him in thefirst round. It's like, I'm not
going to take Travis Kelsey inthe first round. Anybody do that
in the last couple of years?
Yeah? How did that work out foryou? Yeah, I'm telling you right
now, janty, don't take him inthe first round. Let him go. I
would rather have Henry 101 daysout of 100 days. Yeah, those
numbers don't add up. The reasonis, is because it's so crazy to
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draft janty In the first round.
I'm telling you, it's a hugemistake. I don't care how big
his arms are. I don't I don'tcare. I know he's on the
Raiders. I know he's probablygoing to get 300 carries. But if
the Raiders are always behind,and their schedule isn't that
great, by the way, if they'realways behind, they're not going
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to be running to this kid. Imean, yeah, he's awesome at all.
But Geno Smith is going to throwit to ball of hours. He's going
to throw it to Myers. He's goingto move the ball. Do I think
janty is going to have a goodseason? Yeah, I do. I have him
at 17. That's not a terribleplace to be, but for a rookie,
he needs to be able to protectthe quarterback. There's nobody
behind Geno right now, and passPro is very important. So if he
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doesn't improve, in that case,he's not going to get as many
touches as we think. He's notgonna push 300 touches. I don't
care what anyone thinks. It'snot gonna happen. I'm thinking
250 touches, which puts him at asolid top 20. And I have him at
17. At 18, I have chubbaHubbard. I call him chubba, but
I do that, you know, withreverence. Okay? It's Chuba. I
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got it. I like chubba. And nodisrespect, I think he's
awesome. He's playing forCarolina, Carolina young Ted. I
mean, there's some there's sometalent there, but Chubbs,
correction, Chuba, I don't wantthe hate mail. I'm sorry, but I
say that with reference. I'mjust saying, okay, but Chuba is
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in trouble. They went out andgot Rico dat. Don't ask me why.
I have no idea. Gets over 1000yards with Dallas. Are they
looking at as a timeshare? Dothey really think he's gonna
supplant him? I think that Chubabig contract is still the
starter. I see this as a twothirds, one thirds kind of
timeshare, which hurts him. Lastyear, it was all him, so I still
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think he finishes in the top 20.
I mean, he's a great runningback, but this doubt will thing
it really, it really impacts hisopportunities to to run the
ball, and I hope, I hope theydon't get into a timeshare where
Donald comes in to get the goalline touches and take all the
touchdowns away from Chuba. Ihope that doesn't happen. I
mean, they paid Hubbard a lotmore than Donald, but I mean,
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that still remains to be seen.
And number 19, I have JamesConnor. And James Connor, he
might be 50 years old. I don'treally know people treat him
like that, but the bottom lineis, is is the guy pushes almost
five yards of carry everyseason, still went over 1000
yards last year, played 16games, so super healthy. He was
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targeted 55 times. Now, even hecomes out and says, Oh yeah,
Benson, he deserves more playingtime. I heard all that last
year, and guess what, he's stillgot like 280 touches. I don't
really think that's going tochange. Yeah, he might surrender
a couple of touches to Benson,but every time I've seen Benson
play, I don't see that burst ofspeed that well, you know, this
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guy's electric, amazing.
Benson's not going to see awhole lot of carries. Again.
It's still going to be the Jameskind of show. As far as I'm
concerned. I don't think he'sgoing to carry 250 times in the
season. His carries my back offabout 20, he might see like 10
less catches, but, I mean,that's why I haven't been to
solid 19. I still think he'sgoing to have a great season,
you know, and if Benson getshurt. Well, now here we go,
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James Connor once again with 300touches. Okay. Finally, at
number 20, I have DavidMontgomery and everyone I can
hear it right now. Everyone'sfreaking out like, no way you
can't, just because you're aLions fan, you can't put them
both in the top 20. Oh yeah, Idid the same thing last year,
and they both finished in thetop 20. Shocker. They were one
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in 18. And guess what? Lastyear, when everybody thought
David Montgomery was going to benowhere. What does he do? 12
touchdowns, 36 catches. Yeah, heonly had 775, yards rushing. But
who cares, when you put up 12touchdowns, that puts you in the
top 20. He finished right behindMixon, who everyone was like,
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Oh, he's having an amazing year,dude. He was one behind mix in
who, by the way, his hurt andprobably not going to play in,
which case, this is why he's at20. It's pretty much a
guarantee. I still think he gets10 touchdowns, I really do. And
if Detroit lines schedule is astough as everyone says it is,
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aka top five worst schedule outthere for running backs. If it's
really that bad, they needMontgomery in between the
tackles. It's going to be abruise fast. And there is nobody
I would rather have with theball needing one yard on the
goal line than David Montgomery.
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And I think you agree that's thetop 20. Let's take a pause here
and just look at that last 1011,through 20. Every single one of
those guys is pretty decent, butnone of them are really going to
win you this season, although Iwill say Kamara could easily
finish in the top 10. Janty, hecould prove me wrong in
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finishing the top 10. In orderto do that, there would have to
be some serious injuries, like achain cook would have to sit out
the entire season. Chase thoseguys, those kinds of guys would
have to fall out for janty tocrack the top 10. And if, again,
if he's not his top 10 guy, I'mnot touching him until the third
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round. There's some questionmarks in 11 through 20. There
are every year. It's notperfect. Now, one of the things
that came out in the newstonight was Stevenson in New
England could potentially havesome sort of injury from the
preseason game. Now, what wouldthat do that would elevate
everyone's travion Henderson isgoing to be the next guy kind of
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attitude I tray on Henderson.
Look first touching the NFL. Hegoes for 100 yards. That was
awesome. Let me tell yousomething about that play if you
are taking your top pick runningback. And you're putting him on
a kick return, which is one ofthe most dangerous plays to run.
I'm not really sure they carethat much about him. I mean,
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let's face it, every time yousee a top flight wide receiver
field punts, the only thingyou're hoping is that he doesn't
get hurt, because it's one ofthe most dangerous plays. There
are kick returns as well.
Everyone is running full speed,and the hits are brutal. And in
pre season, all of the rookies,they're just trying to make a
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splash play. Travion Henderson,you put him out there like that
and risked his season on a kickreturn in the preseason. That
means they're trying tomanufacture plays for him,
because right now they don'thave a whole lot of room for him
as a starter. I think travionHenderson, great kid. I'm not
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sure he starts. And unlessStevenson is hurt for a long
time. And with Gibson in there,he might only get 100 touches,
and if they put him on kickreturns, man, that kid's gonna
get hurt, not because he's like,you know, weak or something, but
it's a dangerous place to put aguy. So when you look at the pre
season, you see stuff like that.
You see igbuka, wide receiver, Iknow we're on a tangent here,
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but you know, just go with me.
Igboko was returning punts.
That's a bad idea. He wasstarting in the slot for Godwin,
who, oh, by the way, we foundout, is probably going to be out
until at least week six, which,let me translate that for you.
He's not going to play the restof the season. Okay? The guy is
too hurt. So you're putting thatguy in punt returns in the
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preseason where some guy who'strying to make the team is
looking for a splash play andlooking to crush him. That is
not smart. You're not going touse him in that position during
the season. He's going to end upbeing your slot guy. So that
worries me when coaches do thatkind of stupid stuff. All right,
I digress. And there's your top20 running backs. If you agree,
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awesome. If you disagree, evenbetter. Let me know in the
comments. Let me know who youthink the top 20 are. In the
end, if it's exactly a two orJacobs finishes exactly at five,
I don't really care. I know whomy top guys are. I know where I
want to draft talent, and I knowwhat I'm willing to reach for,
and that's what the point ofthis top 20 is. That's what the
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point of these lists are. Youcould disagree with me within
two or three picks or what haveyou, but look at the overall
potential opportunity, look atthe strength of the schedule,
look at what the history hasshown. Look at what these guys
do in the regular season. Dothey win you games every single
week? Or is it like JonathanTaylor who decides to wake up
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when the season is over? Okay? Idon't need those kinds of guys
in order for me to get into theplayoffs and win a Super Bowl. I
have to win the regular seasongames, if it's best ball, okay,
that's different. Maybe I'll tryto stack him in one of those
leagues or whatever. But mostguys don't play best ball, and
if you are in a league where youhave to win week to week, you
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need guys who consistently putup points. Thanks for listening.
And as always, I give a shoutout to the men and women in
uniform who protect the freedomsthat we hold dear. Thank you for
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date on the latest content. Anduntil then, remember established
dominance isn't just acatchphrase, it's a commitment.
Are you ready? You.