July 28, 2021 • 35 mins
Positively and powerfully purposed Angie Gira openly shares her personal journey to find happiness highlighting that until she worked on herself the chase for happiness lead to the lowest moments of her life.
As a Certified Life & Mindset Coach with a vision of having a positive impact on the world she is keen to make positive connection absolutely infectious. Angie is an incredible energy who is always filled with rays of colour and love.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Welcome to Eternal Paradigm.
Together, we're uncovering humanexperience by exploring
physical, mental, emotional, andspiritual stories.
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Hello, welcome to this episodeof Eternal Paradigm.
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learning?
Like genuinely learning aboutwho you are and about really
trying to connect to yourpurpose.
A purpose that isn't necessarilyconditioned.
A purpose that is about you.
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grateful I really just can'teven begin to show my gratitude
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to everyone who continuouslylistens and to these incredible
guests who join me to sharetheir stories because human
experience is the only thingthat we have And when we begin
to realize that humanexperience, our personal
experience is the one thing thatwe can really, really be masters
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of, then life really changes.
So in this episode, I am joinedby a fellow coach who has also
been a a coach to me.
Now, every coach has to have acoach.
So I know as we look around,like the coaching profession is
really taking over.
There are some, you know,incredible, well-known coaches
(02:38):
out there who are known asmotivational individuals.
They're known for theirmotivational speaking.
But I really thrive on theone-to-one and group coaching
that I do.
I absolutely love it.
It's absolutely incredible.
You know, the most powerfulthing about coaching is that you
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always, always work with peoplewho want to make changes, yes.
But unlike other professions,coaching is, for me, a spiritual
process.
But coaching is also aboutworking with people who are
whole and complete, but theyjust don't know it.
So it's all about anexploration.
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It's all about connecting withwhat's possible in life.
And so with that, I am really,really excited to bring to you
this week's guest.
It is no other than theincredible Angie Gira, who is,
apart from the fact that she islike an incredible, amazing
energy, she is filled with somuch wisdom and so much insight
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and great things, great thingsare happening for Angie.
She's asking you, the listeners,some incredible questions and
she's sharing her own personalstory, her own personal, I
guess, trials.
tribulations things that havehappened to her that have really
allowed her to be where she isat today and how she still
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carries on learning it's justsuch a lovely conversation I
really am grateful to Angie forjoining me also it's really
important to listen again tothis episode so another thing
that's happened is a few weeksago I shared an episode with my
husband Rohit And that has beenincredible.
(04:30):
It just so happened.
It was just the timing of thatepisode where England was
playing football, I'm talkingabout, for anyone who is
listening.
Football in, it was, oh gosh, Iwant to say UEFA, right?
Yes, it was UEFA.
And things at the end kind of,again, didn't quite go as
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England had planned.
However, what did happen is whatusually happens.
as a child of immigrant parentsof Indian heritage, it was
actually really, reallydisgusting to see what was
happening.
But what was also happening atthe same time was Rohit's
episode was released that weekon the Wednesday, and on the
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Sunday was his football match.
And then what proceeded onlinewas this horrible torrent of
abuse towards people justbecause they're visibly
different.
And it really, really has left,I think it's left a knot in my
stomach, to be fair.
The fact that my husband wastalking about his life
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experience as a child, you know,from 30 years ago, and yet 30
years on, 2021, we're kind ofhaving this weird global
pandemic.
And yet the truth that peoplereally hold within themselves
shows up in the most heinous andin the most derogatory way.
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And if you haven't heard thatepisode with Rohit, I really
would urge you to, because it'san eye-opener, an absolute
eye-opener.
And in absolute contrast today,I bring you Angie, who is The
absolute polar opposite in themost incredible way.
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And I know previously I havespoken to some of you guys and I
have mentioned that, you know,when it comes to positivity,
what does positivity mean?
When it comes to happiness, whatdoes that mean?
And in this conversation, youcan hear it from Angie, her
exploration, her uncovering, herrealizations, and also her To be
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able to understand from her, herlearning and how she still
carries on is truly phenomenal.
So while I leave you with thisincredible guest, I think after
this, there is...
There are one or two moreepisodes.
Now I say that and you'd thinkthat I'd know by now how many
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episodes there are, but I amgoing to be rounding off soon,
heading off on a holiday.
Before I go, lots of excitingstuff happening.
Apart from the fact that I amofficially a certified
hypnotherapist now and no longeran amateur anymore.
I am on board.
Yeah, things are reallychanging, guys.
(07:23):
So I will be releasing anepisode probably towards the end
just to kind of give you guys aheads up on what's been
happening with me, what there isto look out for.
But right now, the show's overto my guest.
Have a good one.
Enjoy being you.
SPEAKER_00 (07:40):
First of all, thank you for having me.
I'm so excited to be here and tobe doing this and connecting
with you.
I always love connecting withyou.
Who am I?
All right.
So the generic answer to that ismy name is Angie Guerra.
I am a life and mindset coach.
Now I will talk a little bitmore into who I am because I'm
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not a person that likes todefine myself by my title.
I think we should all be alittle bit deeper than that.
But when I'm asked who I am, Ijust like to say that I feel
like I'm just...
A vessel of positive energy.
That's how I like to explain whoI am.
SPEAKER_01 (08:23):
I can second that.
SPEAKER_00 (08:26):
I'll take it.
SPEAKER_01 (08:28):
You are.
You're just a ball of thisamazing happiness.
UNKNOWN (08:33):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (08:34):
I love that.
I love that.
And that's what I'm trying tospread.
So when people tell me, I mean,when anyone comments on my
energy, I'm always like, thankyou.
Like, it's my favoritecompliment.
I have a tattoo that saysenergy, actually.
So it's a huge one for me, forsure.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (08:48):
Where is the tattoo?
SPEAKER_00 (08:50):
Is it on my arm?
I got it actually to remindmyself to be mindful of the
energy that we put out into theworld because it really is super
contagious, whether it's good orbad.
Right?
And yeah, sometimes we forget.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (09:05):
And also, Angie, sometimes people don't even
realize that's the other thing,right?
So now that we know who you are,or you being this amazing ball
of amazingness.
SPEAKER_00 (09:18):
Right back at
SPEAKER_01 (09:18):
you.
Thank you.
Where do you live and what haslife been like for you?
Because you're very, and I saythis, I say this as an older
person.
an older slightly older energyyou're very young you're
infectiously amazing and youknow I keep saying this to you
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though because I do like so justfor a heads up I need to kind of
explain put into context how wemet so we met on the same
coaching certification right Iwas actually one of Angie's
students no not students one ofcoachees even throughout our
coaching sessions I had Iabsolutely loved it because you
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were like my cheerleader and youknow that, right?
And I said this to you and Ihave to put it out there because
when you're going through stuffand things don't quite make
sense, when you have someone whois there, who kind of has your
back and holds you accountable,that is really powerful,
especially when that person isa, not your parent, right?
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Or an authority figure.
And it comes from a place ofnon-judgment.
All of these things are reallyimportant, but also you're still
in terms of age, because that'sthe other thing, you know, age
and wisdom.
For sure.
Tell us a little bit more aboutlife, what it's been like and
how you got to where you are at.
SPEAKER_00 (10:44):
Yeah.
So first, thank you so much forthat.
Honestly, you were my first everclient.
So it was like I'll foreverremember that.
So I'm so, so, so, so happy tohear you say those things.
It means everything.
the world to me, honestly,really.
And in terms of where I'm at, soI'm based in Dubai at the
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moment.
I'm originally Egyptian, movedto Dubai early high school and
lived between Dubai and Canadasince then, right now in Dubai,
which I absolutely love it.
But it's boiling hot right now.
It's like crazy hot.
But other than that, it's anamazing place to be.
I feel like life has been crazyfor all of us recently.
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But for me, it's been crazy inDubai.
a really good way because myexperience really started a few
years ago, quite a few years agowhen I was in Canada and I hit a
really low point in my life.
And I was, I used to think ofmyself as a victim really
because of all the things I wasgoing through and it was so easy
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to blame everything and everyoneelse and not take accountability
myself.
And I feel like in that moment,had I not gone through that, I
wouldn't be where I'm at today.
I feel like that was a huge kindof wake-up call for me because I
got to a point where I was like,okay, I have to deal with my
thoughts.
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I have to deal with my feelings.
Otherwise, it's just, this isn'tgoing anywhere.
Through that, just the rippleeffect of all the other things
that kind of came into my life,because once we start looking
internally and accepting that Weare all learners in life, right?
And like when I say learner, Idon't mean necessarily opening
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up a book and like learningsomething new, but just
everything, your experiences,your people around you, you open
yourself up to so many greatopportunities, people and
experiences, and everyone hassomething they can add to you.
I think we just need to listento it, right?
And be accepting of that.
SPEAKER_01 (12:48):
Yeah, absolutely.
Sorry, I just kicked a chair inmy kind of like, yes,
absolutely, totally.
And, you know, the whole victimmentality thing and taking
personal accountability, they'revery, very, almost like quite
hard for some people.
But sometimes you have to be inthat place and get to this place
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of what is going on?
Is this what I really want to beable to move on?
So what was it like for you?
What was that moment?
Or was there like a definingmoment or certain events where
things just went, I don't wantto be this anymore?
What was that like?
SPEAKER_00 (13:31):
I really want to emphasize because I love the way
you asked that question.
And because I didn't have asingle moment when I was like
the ones you see in the movies,you know, when it's like, okay,
this is it.
Like it wasn't like that.
And usually it's not like thatbecause we're experiencing our
lives and whatever we're inbecomes somewhat part of a
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routine.
And there may be things that arebig, but unless it's something
huge, really traumatic, it canbe hard for you to be like,
okay, this is the last straw.
But so for me, it was really anaccumulation of, of a lot of
things.
It was a relationship I was inthat wasn't good for me.
It was other relationshipsaround me that weren't serving
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me truly and vice versa.
I wasn't serving thoserelationships either.
So it was a lot of differentthings, but I think ultimately
reflecting back, I know that mytrue driver, I've always, for as
long as I can remember, I'vebeen a positive person and I've
always sought happiness and it'salways been a huge deal for me.
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I think the shift is myperspective.
Before, I used to chasehappiness and I wanted to do
things that would instantly makeme feel happy.
And sometimes those thingsweren't good for me and ended up
harming me or derailing me.
I never understood that feelinghappy and true happiness could
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be two different things.
That perspective never occurredto me back then.
And I think looking at it now,that was really the biggest one.
Because I was like, if I keepliving my life like this, I'm
never going to be truly happy ortruly at peace.
And happiness was important tome.
So I was like, okay, that's it.
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I need to deal with what's goingon.
And it may be tough and it maybe uncomfortable.
But unless I do, I'm not goingto be able to find that true
happiness and happiness.
It's not a chase.
It's a state of being, in myopinion, and sometimes
uncomfortable, right?
Like it's not always daisies andflowers.
SPEAKER_01 (15:42):
Yeah, I know, right?
So all those Instagram poststhat I'm trying to put together
with happiness and flowers andblue skies, they're just
fleeting moments in that
SPEAKER_00 (15:52):
experience.
100%, yes, yes.
That's not what it looks likeall the time.
And I feel like when we buildthat picture in our minds that
that's what it's supposed tolook like, When we don't feel
like that 24-7, we feel likewe're doing it wrong,
SPEAKER_01 (16:06):
right?
Absolutely.
You know, it's so interestingbecause this is the other thing.
When I have conversations withpeople, interesting is always
the word, especially coaches.
It's like, that's sointeresting.
I just, you know, you're justlike, okay, I need to try and
think of different words now.
So that's kind of our missionnow.
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But when you actually talk abouthappiness, happiness is a
statement being and forconditioned happiness, which is
instant gratification, right?
And the state of mind in both ofthose is very different.
100%.
And so when you look at all ofthese different things, you said
it was like a combination ofthings.
And what were the moments whereyou were, if you don't mind me
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asking, feeling reallyuncomfortable, but you just sat
with it?
SPEAKER_00 (16:57):
I was uncomfortable for a very long time.
You know, I was uncomfortable inmy life in general.
And every time I didn't want todeal with it, I would find a
distraction, right?
I didn't even want to go like ifmy friends would be like, let's
go for a walk or something.
I didn't even want to do that.
I wanted to be somewhere whereit was loud enough.
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I couldn't even hear mythoughts.
It was that bad.
I didn't want to deal with mythoughts at all.
And it got to a point where Iwas like, okay, these thoughts
aren't going anywhere.
And the more I ignore them, it'slike an elephant in the room.
And the longer you ignore it,the bigger it becomes and the
harder it is for you to avoidit.
So it ended up where theelephant was taking up all the
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space and I had no space at all.
And I had to deal with it.
It wasn't easy, but luckily, Ialso had a really, really great
support system.
And my friends really kind ofencouraged me.
I have a friend, a friend ofmine, and he would force me to
spend time alone.
Literally, he was like, you needto spend time alone.
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And so I did.
And step by step, I mean, whenyou're alone, you deal with it.
And I feel like all of us goingthrough the pandemic, it forced
us to be with our thoughtsalone.
It forced us to haveconversations with our partners
or our families, whoever we werelocked in with, even if it was
just with ourselves, thenthoughts with conversations with
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ourselves, it forced those.
And as uncomfortable as it is,it's
SPEAKER_01 (18:29):
good.
What you said there about theoutcome, it's like there's
always an expected outcome.
If I am sitting by myself, I'mexpecting to resolve or fix
something.
But actually, sometimes it'sjust that that you need to be
doing.
And as I'm listening to you, I'mjust thinking, so last night we
went out for dinner and, youknow, I'm obviously incredibly
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nosy.
So I'm listening toconversations as you do, right?
And yeah, I don't lie about it.
I'm just kind of like, listen.
So this is me like moving intothis other, onto the other
table.
And so I'm listening toobviously friends catching up.
And it was really interesting tolisten to two perspectives.
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So one of the friends was like,I could never do the first
lockdown again.
That was the hardest thing forme to do.
You know, working from home wasgreat.
Then watching everything onNetflix and TV was like, okay.
And then I would go out for arun.
And then afterwards, her friendsaid to her, but, you know, you
were living with people.
What was that like?
And she went, oh, I just triedto ignore them.
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And it was like, oh, okay.
So you were distracting yourselfwith work and Netflix, and you
didn't even want to engage withthe people around you.
I understand why you don't wantto do that again, because
there's an elephant in the roomthere that's getting bigger.
And she's trying to run awayfrom it.
Or, you know, this person and...
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I just thought, wow.
And so, yeah, I'm incrediblynosy.
I love conversations like that.
Are you nosy, Angie?
SPEAKER_00 (20:02):
I'm definitely nosy.
Like this is something I'mlearning about myself more and
more.
I am extremely fascinated byhuman behavior.
It's just the most entertainingthing for me in the world.
And the weirder it is, and byweirder, I just mean different
than me, really, the moreinterested I am.
Even like watching like serialkiller documentaries and stuff
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like that, I was just socurious.
What is going on there?
It's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (20:29):
I totally love that because
SPEAKER_00 (20:31):
it's fascinating.
That's a new word.
There you go.
SPEAKER_01 (20:34):
Fascinating.
This came up actually, this cameup.
So I am going to have to, I'mgoing to put together a list of
words.
And you know, when you do that,it's like intrinsically,
naturally as humans, we arequite curious.
We're very inquisitive and thatis, level of curiosity and
inquisitiveness gets lost overtime.
(20:55):
And so when you had this reallygood friend who, I have to say,
muchos respect, said to you, youneed to sit by yourself.
You just need to be alone.
What were you thinking at thatpoint?
Did you just say, I really don'twant to talk to you right now,
go away?
Because I can imagine myselfsaying that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:14):
I mean, I thought he just didn't get it.
I was like, okay, well, clearlyI'm just more social than you
are.
Like, I like being aroundpeople.
I don't get...
What's wrong with that?
And honestly, in the moment, inthe moment when you want to
spend time with people, that's avery normal thing to want to do.
You don't necessarily think ofit as an escape.
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Right.
So in the beginning, I was like,he just doesn't get it.
I think maybe just our socialinteractional needs are
different and he doesn'tunderstand.
So that's how I took itinitially.
I
SPEAKER_01 (21:46):
love, love, love, love.
So what stories did you add tothat?
Did you do the whole, oh, he's aguy.
He doesn't really have that manyfriendships.
Or I prefer associating withpeople this way.
Because that's what we do.
We tell ourselves a whole loadof BS.
SPEAKER_00 (22:02):
Right?
100%.
Yeah.
I didn't have the he's a guynarrative.
To be fair, a lot of my friendsare guys.
But I was like, the one I wentto, I was like, is he just too
busy?
Like, does he just not want tohang out?
Maybe like, I was like, maybethat's it.
I'm not sure.
I wasn't sure exactly what'sgoing on.
I was like, yeah, if you don'twant to hang out, I can talk to
someone else.
You know, it's okay.
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But I thought he didn't get itwas the fundamental, you know,
we're different.
He doesn't get it.
But when I thought about it, Icould see he had a point.
And there's always that littlevoice, right?
There's that voice inside of usthat always just knows.
It's your guts, I guess.
SPEAKER_01 (22:40):
Yes.
So two things.
One, when you said, oh, we'rejust different.
What have you learned about thatnow when you say, oh, we're just
different?
What's your perspective shift onthat now?
SPEAKER_00 (22:55):
I think it's back to the being curious.
And I love what you were sayingabout how we're all curious.
And I think that's also like itgoes back to that little learner
inside of us.
And I think when people tell yousomething, especially when it's
about you or you disagree orit's whatever it is, ask why.
Okay, so he told me, I think youshould spend some time alone.
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I think it would be good foryou.
And my initial reaction was justlike, okay, you just don't get
it, fine, okay, whatever.
But I should ask why.
I mean, tell me more why youthink this is important for me.
Be curious and you never know,right?
You never know what couldunfold.
We're all different, but itdoesn't mean, just because it's
different doesn't mean it won'tmesh with you.
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You never know.
The unknown unknowns arepowerful.
SPEAKER_01 (23:43):
Ooh, more love.
Go back to the little voicebecause that little voice that
we all have, the little voicethat so many of us just ignore.
It's not there.
Or we turn that little voiceinto somebody else's voice
that's constantly berating usand telling us that we're not
good enough, right?
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What was your little voicesaying to you when it kind of
showed up?
SPEAKER_00 (24:07):
So to be honest, and this is going to sound really
weird, but I feel like I have,not crazy, I promise, but I
definitely feel like I have Somany voices inside of my head.
Do you know the movie InsideOut?
Oh my God,
SPEAKER_01 (24:21):
yes.
That's life, right?
SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
Right?
I'm convinced this is what'sgoing on inside.
I don't hear what science issaying.
Yes,
SPEAKER_01 (24:28):
this is it.
And this is all based on sciencebecause we have, I say it's like
you have a group of almost like30 school kids running around
doing different things and theyare all of your different voices
but I also have this characterthat shows up and I don't know
if I said it when we werecoaching but I have this Tony
Soprano character he just showsup and it's like um that's when
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I know I need to pay somethingattention I love it but what's
your like what's your internaldialogue like are you literally
seeing it as inside out
SPEAKER_00 (25:02):
yeah 100% I like to entertain myself I focus
internally almost all the time.
So I like to entertain myself,right?
So in my mind, yes, this isexactly what it looks like.
And the voices that I want toempower and I want to strengthen
are, you know, veryapproachable, very friendly.
They look good, all that.
And the ones I don't, they looklike the kind of voices you
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don't want to listen to anyway.
So it makes my life a little biteasier.
And that's honestly, I recommendthis as a tool to try because
Definitely works for me becauseit changes.
I mean, the size, initially whenI was talking about that small
voice, in that story, that smallvoice was something I should
empower.
But sometimes it's the opposite.
Sometimes it's a small voicethat's quite negative, but it
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just won't go away.
And that's when you need to kindof push to the side, but address
it as well, right?
Don't just ignore it.
Talk back to it.
If it's telling you you're notenough, No, I am so enough, you
know?
Who are you?
Who are you, little voice?
SPEAKER_01 (26:05):
This is brilliant.
So tell me, Angie, in terms ofwhere you're at in terms of
coaching, share, dish, what'shappening?
Are you working with a specificarea or who would absolutely
benefit from working with you?
Apart from me, obviously.
SPEAKER_00 (26:24):
Yeah, no, I'm so, so, so, so happy with coaching.
I mean, it's...
I'm just, I'm so blessed andgrateful that this is my career.
I absolutely love it.
I love my clients so, so much.
And I feel part of theirjourneys, you know, and in terms
of who would benefit, I thinkthere's two types of people that
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really, really benefit fromcoaching.
And I think one is someone thatis feeling lost, right?
You feel like You want somethingmore.
Something's not feeling right.
You feel like kind of likeyou're just flowing through
life, but you're not, no realemotion happening there.
And it's very monotone is how Iwould describe it.
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If that's someone like that andyou want more, coaching is great
for you because you get toexplore what this more looks
like for you and then startliving that.
The second type of person issomeone that's happy with their
life.
likes their job, likes theirkind of their environment,
everything, but they want toelevate to a next step.
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Maybe they don't know what thisnext step is.
Maybe they're ready to take itto the next level, elevate it
somehow or enhance it somehow.
That's also a different type ofclient.
The goals are different, but Imean, everyone's journey is
really different, I think.
It's really just about livingthe life you want to live now.
Don't wait, please.
SPEAKER_01 (27:46):
I so agree with you.
But also something you said tome the other day that has really
struck a chord, because you werementioning the whole thing
around millennial mindset.
And I see this as my children.
They're not even totallymillennials.
They're younger, but they're somuch more connected with
themselves and seeking answers alot earlier than what I was able
(28:09):
to do.
You was talking about how whenit comes to millennials, you
really want them to be in aplace where they're able to deal
with all that stuff, all thestuff that comes up in your 40s
and 50s and 60s.
It shouldn't be coming up atthat point, all those regrets,
all those things that you neverdid.
Elaborate on that, if you
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
will.
I love working with millennialsbecause, well, when I'm a
millennial, And I also feel likeit's a good age range.
So like millennials, they'rebetween 20, 25, I think, to like
43, something like that.
So it's quite a good age group.
Yeah.
So I like it.
And I think we add so muchpressure on ourselves because we
(28:52):
have all this exposure, which isamazing.
But it becomes a lot ofpressure.
And we're so ambitious.
We're like all about the hustleand working hard and finding our
passion, living our purpose.
And All these huge, massivewords that add an enormous
amount of pressure on someone.
And again, back to like thestory I was saying earlier,
(29:15):
we're not a movie as much as Iwould love for us to be.
We're not a movie and thingsdon't happen exactly that way.
So you're not going to havethis.
Some people do, but I mean, noteveryone is going to have this
moment of epiphany where theyrealize that their purpose is to
go to a third world country.
And it doesn't have to besomething so massive.
(29:37):
Your purpose could be to paint.
Your purpose could be to cook.
It's whatever it is to you.
And it doesn't have to be thishuge thing.
And I feel like we add so muchpressure on ourselves and we
ignore what we're tellingourselves because we're like,
eh, that can't be it.
Right?
Like, why can't it be it?
SPEAKER_01 (29:57):
Gosh, absolutely.
And it's so, so important whatyou're saying because the big
words, all the big P words, Icall them, right?
Passion, purpose, profit, andall of the PPP.
And we do, we align ourselves tothat.
And we do the comparison thing.
Oh, but so-and-so found theirpurpose and they're now a CEO at
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this bank and they've got like a6 million pound, I don't know,
car or something.
UNKNOWN (30:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:22):
And then we do the other thing.
It's like so-and-so had to leaveeverything to go and set up a
school in a part of the worldwhere education isn't so easily
accessible.
And then we have these hugeideas of what it means to be.
You have to be this or this.
And you can't have this if youhave this.
And then in that, we ignore thatvoice.
SPEAKER_00 (30:42):
100%.
SPEAKER_01 (30:44):
So what you're saying is nail on the head
there, on point.
SPEAKER_00 (30:49):
Yeah.
UNKNOWN (30:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (30:50):
Listen to yourself and there is no dream too small
or too big.
If it means something to you,that should mean the world.
If it makes you happy, that'sit, right?
That's what we want.
SPEAKER_01 (31:01):
Yes.
And it's all part of the humanexperience.
We can't all be here to, youknow, my podcast is kind of very
spiritually aligned.
So it's like, like your soul'spurpose in this life could just
be to actually find pleasure inin those little things.
The alignment of that, thatcould be part of its learning.
(31:24):
So when you then add all of theother stuff on top of it, you're
just removing yourself away fromwhat you're here to really do.
I
SPEAKER_00 (31:33):
love that so much.
Completely agree.
SPEAKER_01 (31:35):
Yeah, yeah.
So do you feel that you're kindof living through your soul, if
you know what I
SPEAKER_00 (31:42):
mean?
To me, my purpose is spreadingpositivity.
And I truly believe that fromthe bottom of my heart.
See, mine's not that huge thing,right?
But to me, it's everythingbecause I'm such a big believer
of the ripple effect.
And I believe that if I seesomeone walking down the street
and I smile at them, I do thinkthat's spreading positivity and
(32:04):
you never know what they'll goon to do.
Maybe they just needed someoneto smile at them at that point
in time.
You never know.
So yeah, I do believe I amliving my soul's purpose.
SPEAKER_01 (32:16):
Oh, that just makes me feel all kind of gooey.
I love it.
And it's such an amazing smileas well.
So keep sharing.
So Angie, where can people getin touch with you, firstly?
SPEAKER_00 (32:31):
The best place to get in touch with me, I'm very
quick there, is definitelyInstagram.
You can DM me.
I'm more than happy to chat.
I love, love, love connectingwith new people.
So Instagram, it's Angie Guiro.
And yeah, I'd love to chat.
SPEAKER_01 (32:49):
What I also ask my guests as well is, what would be
your top tip for you'd like toleave out for listeners and also
if you would leave a questionfor the listeners so what would
be your top tip and whatquestion would you like to leave
out there
SPEAKER_00 (33:07):
okay my top tip would be to empower yourself to
live the life you truly want tolive This is huge for me.
And this is what I try to dowith my clients.
And if I wanted to give someoneanything in the world, it would
be that.
That would be it.
(33:27):
Whatever that looks like to you,if it makes you, your soul
happy, if it brings you innerpeace, if that's what success
looks like to you, whatever, allthose words, right?
If you're at peace, do that,find that and do it and be it
and live it.
And it's your life.
Live the way you want to live.
And remember, Question.
(33:48):
A question I would say is if youhad a magic wand and you had the
power to be anywhere, doanything, be anyone, what would
that look like?
Paint that picture with yourwand.
Yeah.
What would
SPEAKER_01 (34:07):
that look like?
I love that question.
We haven't had that one yet.
SPEAKER_00 (34:12):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (34:14):
Brilliant.
Excellent.
So Just Angie, remind us onemore time where people can
contact you because they canalso contact you to let you know
the answer to that question,can't they?
SPEAKER_00 (34:27):
Oh my God, I would love that.
Please do.
I would love that.
And again, Instagram is the bestplace to connect with me.
It's Angie Kira.
You can also check out mywebsite.
But again, I would like to chatwith you.
So Instagram.
SPEAKER_01 (34:40):
Amazing.
Thank you.
Do you have anything else you'dlike to share, add or round off
with?
SPEAKER_00 (34:47):
I just like to thank you for your time.
I loved this conversation.
Loved seeing you, chatting withyou as always.
I think I'd just like to leaveeveryone with, yeah, do
something that spreads a littlepositivity today.
I
SPEAKER_01 (35:03):
hope you enjoyed that.
Thank you for joining me forthis episode of Eternal
Paradigm.
Join me next time.
Welcome to Eternal Paradigm.
Together, we're uncovering humanexperience by exploring
physical, mental, emotional, andspiritual stories.
With me, your host, Ermi Ravel.
Hello, welcome to this episodeof Eternal Paradigm.
I hope you're enjoying yourjourney to find you.
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As you enjoy your journey tofind you, how often are you
learning?
Like genuinely learning aboutwho you are and about really
trying to connect to yourpurpose.
A purpose that isn't necessarilyconditioned.
A purpose that is about you.
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How often are you doing that?
So I leave that question withyou while I just head off onto,
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I also just want to say thankyou.
Thank you for everybody who getsin touch, who makes the...
effort the time out to listen topodcast episodes I am truly
grateful I really just can'teven begin to show my gratitude
(01:50):
to everyone who continuouslylistens and to these incredible
guests who join me to sharetheir stories because human
experience is the only thingthat we have And when we begin
to realize that humanexperience, our personal
experience is the one thing thatwe can really, really be masters
(02:14):
of, then life really changes.
So in this episode, I am joinedby a fellow coach who has also
been a a coach to me.
Now, every coach has to have acoach.
So I know as we look around,like the coaching profession is
really taking over.
There are some, you know,incredible, well-known coaches
(02:38):
out there who are known asmotivational individuals.
They're known for theirmotivational speaking.
But I really thrive on theone-to-one and group coaching
that I do.
I absolutely love it.
It's absolutely incredible.
You know, the most powerfulthing about coaching is that you
(02:58):
always, always work with peoplewho want to make changes, yes.
But unlike other professions,coaching is, for me, a spiritual
process.
But coaching is also aboutworking with people who are
whole and complete, but theyjust don't know it.
So it's all about anexploration.
(03:20):
It's all about connecting withwhat's possible in life.
And so with that, I am really,really excited to bring to you
this week's guest.
It is no other than theincredible Angie Gira, who is,
apart from the fact that she islike an incredible, amazing
energy, she is filled with somuch wisdom and so much insight
(03:45):
and great things, great thingsare happening for Angie.
She's asking you, the listeners,some incredible questions and
she's sharing her own personalstory, her own personal, I
guess, trials.
tribulations things that havehappened to her that have really
allowed her to be where she isat today and how she still
(04:07):
carries on learning it's justsuch a lovely conversation I
really am grateful to Angie forjoining me also it's really
important to listen again tothis episode so another thing
that's happened is a few weeksago I shared an episode with my
husband Rohit And that has beenincredible.
(04:30):
It just so happened.
It was just the timing of thatepisode where England was
playing football, I'm talkingabout, for anyone who is
listening.
Football in, it was, oh gosh, Iwant to say UEFA, right?
Yes, it was UEFA.
And things at the end kind of,again, didn't quite go as
(04:52):
England had planned.
However, what did happen is whatusually happens.
as a child of immigrant parentsof Indian heritage, it was
actually really, reallydisgusting to see what was
happening.
But what was also happening atthe same time was Rohit's
episode was released that weekon the Wednesday, and on the
(05:14):
Sunday was his football match.
And then what proceeded onlinewas this horrible torrent of
abuse towards people justbecause they're visibly
different.
And it really, really has left,I think it's left a knot in my
stomach, to be fair.
The fact that my husband wastalking about his life
(05:35):
experience as a child, you know,from 30 years ago, and yet 30
years on, 2021, we're kind ofhaving this weird global
pandemic.
And yet the truth that peoplereally hold within themselves
shows up in the most heinous andin the most derogatory way.
(05:57):
And if you haven't heard thatepisode with Rohit, I really
would urge you to, because it'san eye-opener, an absolute
eye-opener.
And in absolute contrast today,I bring you Angie, who is The
absolute polar opposite in themost incredible way.
(06:19):
And I know previously I havespoken to some of you guys and I
have mentioned that, you know,when it comes to positivity,
what does positivity mean?
When it comes to happiness, whatdoes that mean?
And in this conversation, youcan hear it from Angie, her
exploration, her uncovering, herrealizations, and also her To be
(06:41):
able to understand from her, herlearning and how she still
carries on is truly phenomenal.
So while I leave you with thisincredible guest, I think after
this, there is...
There are one or two moreepisodes.
Now I say that and you'd thinkthat I'd know by now how many
(07:02):
episodes there are, but I amgoing to be rounding off soon,
heading off on a holiday.
Before I go, lots of excitingstuff happening.
Apart from the fact that I amofficially a certified
hypnotherapist now and no longeran amateur anymore.
I am on board.
Yeah, things are reallychanging, guys.
(07:23):
So I will be releasing anepisode probably towards the end
just to kind of give you guys aheads up on what's been
happening with me, what there isto look out for.
But right now, the show's overto my guest.
Have a good one.
Enjoy being you.
SPEAKER_00 (07:40):
First of all, thank you for having me.
I'm so excited to be here and tobe doing this and connecting
with you.
I always love connecting withyou.
Who am I?
All right.
So the generic answer to that ismy name is Angie Guerra.
I am a life and mindset coach.
Now I will talk a little bitmore into who I am because I'm
(08:04):
not a person that likes todefine myself by my title.
I think we should all be alittle bit deeper than that.
But when I'm asked who I am, Ijust like to say that I feel
like I'm just...
A vessel of positive energy.
That's how I like to explain whoI am.
SPEAKER_01 (08:23):
I can second that.
SPEAKER_00 (08:26):
I'll take it.
SPEAKER_01 (08:28):
You are.
You're just a ball of thisamazing happiness.
UNKNOWN (08:33):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (08:34):
I love that.
I love that.
And that's what I'm trying tospread.
So when people tell me, I mean,when anyone comments on my
energy, I'm always like, thankyou.
Like, it's my favoritecompliment.
I have a tattoo that saysenergy, actually.
So it's a huge one for me, forsure.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (08:48):
Where is the tattoo?
SPEAKER_00 (08:50):
Is it on my arm?
I got it actually to remindmyself to be mindful of the
energy that we put out into theworld because it really is super
contagious, whether it's good orbad.
Right?
And yeah, sometimes we forget.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (09:05):
And also, Angie, sometimes people don't even
realize that's the other thing,right?
So now that we know who you are,or you being this amazing ball
of amazingness.
SPEAKER_00 (09:18):
Right back at
SPEAKER_01 (09:18):
you.
Thank you.
Where do you live and what haslife been like for you?
Because you're very, and I saythis, I say this as an older
person.
an older slightly older energyyou're very young you're
infectiously amazing and youknow I keep saying this to you
(09:40):
though because I do like so justfor a heads up I need to kind of
explain put into context how wemet so we met on the same
coaching certification right Iwas actually one of Angie's
students no not students one ofcoachees even throughout our
coaching sessions I had Iabsolutely loved it because you
(10:03):
were like my cheerleader and youknow that, right?
And I said this to you and Ihave to put it out there because
when you're going through stuffand things don't quite make
sense, when you have someone whois there, who kind of has your
back and holds you accountable,that is really powerful,
especially when that person isa, not your parent, right?
(10:24):
Or an authority figure.
And it comes from a place ofnon-judgment.
All of these things are reallyimportant, but also you're still
in terms of age, because that'sthe other thing, you know, age
and wisdom.
For sure.
Tell us a little bit more aboutlife, what it's been like and
how you got to where you are at.
SPEAKER_00 (10:44):
Yeah.
So first, thank you so much forthat.
Honestly, you were my first everclient.
So it was like I'll foreverremember that.
So I'm so, so, so, so happy tohear you say those things.
It means everything.
the world to me, honestly,really.
And in terms of where I'm at, soI'm based in Dubai at the
(11:05):
moment.
I'm originally Egyptian, movedto Dubai early high school and
lived between Dubai and Canadasince then, right now in Dubai,
which I absolutely love it.
But it's boiling hot right now.
It's like crazy hot.
But other than that, it's anamazing place to be.
I feel like life has been crazyfor all of us recently.
(11:26):
But for me, it's been crazy inDubai.
a really good way because myexperience really started a few
years ago, quite a few years agowhen I was in Canada and I hit a
really low point in my life.
And I was, I used to think ofmyself as a victim really
because of all the things I wasgoing through and it was so easy
(11:46):
to blame everything and everyoneelse and not take accountability
myself.
And I feel like in that moment,had I not gone through that, I
wouldn't be where I'm at today.
I feel like that was a huge kindof wake-up call for me because I
got to a point where I was like,okay, I have to deal with my
thoughts.
(12:07):
I have to deal with my feelings.
Otherwise, it's just, this isn'tgoing anywhere.
Through that, just the rippleeffect of all the other things
that kind of came into my life,because once we start looking
internally and accepting that Weare all learners in life, right?
And like when I say learner, Idon't mean necessarily opening
(12:28):
up a book and like learningsomething new, but just
everything, your experiences,your people around you, you open
yourself up to so many greatopportunities, people and
experiences, and everyone hassomething they can add to you.
I think we just need to listento it, right?
And be accepting of that.
SPEAKER_01 (12:48):
Yeah, absolutely.
Sorry, I just kicked a chair inmy kind of like, yes,
absolutely, totally.
And, you know, the whole victimmentality thing and taking
personal accountability, they'revery, very, almost like quite
hard for some people.
But sometimes you have to be inthat place and get to this place
(13:13):
of what is going on?
Is this what I really want to beable to move on?
So what was it like for you?
What was that moment?
Or was there like a definingmoment or certain events where
things just went, I don't wantto be this anymore?
What was that like?
SPEAKER_00 (13:31):
I really want to emphasize because I love the way
you asked that question.
And because I didn't have asingle moment when I was like
the ones you see in the movies,you know, when it's like, okay,
this is it.
Like it wasn't like that.
And usually it's not like thatbecause we're experiencing our
lives and whatever we're inbecomes somewhat part of a
(13:55):
routine.
And there may be things that arebig, but unless it's something
huge, really traumatic, it canbe hard for you to be like,
okay, this is the last straw.
But so for me, it was really anaccumulation of, of a lot of
things.
It was a relationship I was inthat wasn't good for me.
It was other relationshipsaround me that weren't serving
(14:17):
me truly and vice versa.
I wasn't serving thoserelationships either.
So it was a lot of differentthings, but I think ultimately
reflecting back, I know that mytrue driver, I've always, for as
long as I can remember, I'vebeen a positive person and I've
always sought happiness and it'salways been a huge deal for me.
(14:39):
I think the shift is myperspective.
Before, I used to chasehappiness and I wanted to do
things that would instantly makeme feel happy.
And sometimes those thingsweren't good for me and ended up
harming me or derailing me.
I never understood that feelinghappy and true happiness could
(15:00):
be two different things.
That perspective never occurredto me back then.
And I think looking at it now,that was really the biggest one.
Because I was like, if I keepliving my life like this, I'm
never going to be truly happy ortruly at peace.
And happiness was important tome.
So I was like, okay, that's it.
(15:22):
I need to deal with what's goingon.
And it may be tough and it maybe uncomfortable.
But unless I do, I'm not goingto be able to find that true
happiness and happiness.
It's not a chase.
It's a state of being, in myopinion, and sometimes
uncomfortable, right?
Like it's not always daisies andflowers.
SPEAKER_01 (15:42):
Yeah, I know, right?
So all those Instagram poststhat I'm trying to put together
with happiness and flowers andblue skies, they're just
fleeting moments in that
SPEAKER_00 (15:52):
experience.
100%, yes, yes.
That's not what it looks likeall the time.
And I feel like when we buildthat picture in our minds that
that's what it's supposed tolook like, When we don't feel
like that 24-7, we feel likewe're doing it wrong,
SPEAKER_01 (16:06):
right?
Absolutely.
You know, it's so interestingbecause this is the other thing.
When I have conversations withpeople, interesting is always
the word, especially coaches.
It's like, that's sointeresting.
I just, you know, you're justlike, okay, I need to try and
think of different words now.
So that's kind of our missionnow.
(16:28):
But when you actually talk abouthappiness, happiness is a
statement being and forconditioned happiness, which is
instant gratification, right?
And the state of mind in both ofthose is very different.
100%.
And so when you look at all ofthese different things, you said
it was like a combination ofthings.
And what were the moments whereyou were, if you don't mind me
(16:52):
asking, feeling reallyuncomfortable, but you just sat
with it?
SPEAKER_00 (16:57):
I was uncomfortable for a very long time.
You know, I was uncomfortable inmy life in general.
And every time I didn't want todeal with it, I would find a
distraction, right?
I didn't even want to go like ifmy friends would be like, let's
go for a walk or something.
I didn't even want to do that.
I wanted to be somewhere whereit was loud enough.
(17:18):
I couldn't even hear mythoughts.
It was that bad.
I didn't want to deal with mythoughts at all.
And it got to a point where Iwas like, okay, these thoughts
aren't going anywhere.
And the more I ignore them, it'slike an elephant in the room.
And the longer you ignore it,the bigger it becomes and the
harder it is for you to avoidit.
So it ended up where theelephant was taking up all the
(17:41):
space and I had no space at all.
And I had to deal with it.
It wasn't easy, but luckily, Ialso had a really, really great
support system.
And my friends really kind ofencouraged me.
I have a friend, a friend ofmine, and he would force me to
spend time alone.
Literally, he was like, you needto spend time alone.
(18:04):
And so I did.
And step by step, I mean, whenyou're alone, you deal with it.
And I feel like all of us goingthrough the pandemic, it forced
us to be with our thoughtsalone.
It forced us to haveconversations with our partners
or our families, whoever we werelocked in with, even if it was
just with ourselves, thenthoughts with conversations with
(18:25):
ourselves, it forced those.
And as uncomfortable as it is,it's
SPEAKER_01 (18:29):
good.
What you said there about theoutcome, it's like there's
always an expected outcome.
If I am sitting by myself, I'mexpecting to resolve or fix
something.
But actually, sometimes it'sjust that that you need to be
doing.
And as I'm listening to you, I'mjust thinking, so last night we
went out for dinner and, youknow, I'm obviously incredibly
(18:51):
nosy.
So I'm listening toconversations as you do, right?
And yeah, I don't lie about it.
I'm just kind of like, listen.
So this is me like moving intothis other, onto the other
table.
And so I'm listening toobviously friends catching up.
And it was really interesting tolisten to two perspectives.
(19:13):
So one of the friends was like,I could never do the first
lockdown again.
That was the hardest thing forme to do.
You know, working from home wasgreat.
Then watching everything onNetflix and TV was like, okay.
And then I would go out for arun.
And then afterwards, her friendsaid to her, but, you know, you
were living with people.
What was that like?
And she went, oh, I just triedto ignore them.
(19:35):
And it was like, oh, okay.
So you were distracting yourselfwith work and Netflix, and you
didn't even want to engage withthe people around you.
I understand why you don't wantto do that again, because
there's an elephant in the roomthere that's getting bigger.
And she's trying to run awayfrom it.
Or, you know, this person and...
(19:56):
I just thought, wow.
And so, yeah, I'm incrediblynosy.
I love conversations like that.
Are you nosy, Angie?
SPEAKER_00 (20:02):
I'm definitely nosy.
Like this is something I'mlearning about myself more and
more.
I am extremely fascinated byhuman behavior.
It's just the most entertainingthing for me in the world.
And the weirder it is, and byweirder, I just mean different
than me, really, the moreinterested I am.
Even like watching like serialkiller documentaries and stuff
(20:24):
like that, I was just socurious.
What is going on there?
It's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (20:29):
I totally love that because
SPEAKER_00 (20:31):
it's fascinating.
That's a new word.
There you go.
SPEAKER_01 (20:34):
Fascinating.
This came up actually, this cameup.
So I am going to have to, I'mgoing to put together a list of
words.
And you know, when you do that,it's like intrinsically,
naturally as humans, we arequite curious.
We're very inquisitive and thatis, level of curiosity and
inquisitiveness gets lost overtime.
(20:55):
And so when you had this reallygood friend who, I have to say,
muchos respect, said to you, youneed to sit by yourself.
You just need to be alone.
What were you thinking at thatpoint?
Did you just say, I really don'twant to talk to you right now,
go away?
Because I can imagine myselfsaying that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:14):
I mean, I thought he just didn't get it.
I was like, okay, well, clearlyI'm just more social than you
are.
Like, I like being aroundpeople.
I don't get...
What's wrong with that?
And honestly, in the moment, inthe moment when you want to
spend time with people, that's avery normal thing to want to do.
You don't necessarily think ofit as an escape.
(21:35):
Right.
So in the beginning, I was like,he just doesn't get it.
I think maybe just our socialinteractional needs are
different and he doesn'tunderstand.
So that's how I took itinitially.
I
SPEAKER_01 (21:46):
love, love, love, love.
So what stories did you add tothat?
Did you do the whole, oh, he's aguy.
He doesn't really have that manyfriendships.
Or I prefer associating withpeople this way.
Because that's what we do.
We tell ourselves a whole loadof BS.
SPEAKER_00 (22:02):
Right?
100%.
Yeah.
I didn't have the he's a guynarrative.
To be fair, a lot of my friendsare guys.
But I was like, the one I wentto, I was like, is he just too
busy?
Like, does he just not want tohang out?
Maybe like, I was like, maybethat's it.
I'm not sure.
I wasn't sure exactly what'sgoing on.
I was like, yeah, if you don'twant to hang out, I can talk to
someone else.
You know, it's okay.
(22:23):
But I thought he didn't get itwas the fundamental, you know,
we're different.
He doesn't get it.
But when I thought about it, Icould see he had a point.
And there's always that littlevoice, right?
There's that voice inside of usthat always just knows.
It's your guts, I guess.
SPEAKER_01 (22:40):
Yes.
So two things.
One, when you said, oh, we'rejust different.
What have you learned about thatnow when you say, oh, we're just
different?
What's your perspective shift onthat now?
SPEAKER_00 (22:55):
I think it's back to the being curious.
And I love what you were sayingabout how we're all curious.
And I think that's also like itgoes back to that little learner
inside of us.
And I think when people tell yousomething, especially when it's
about you or you disagree orit's whatever it is, ask why.
Okay, so he told me, I think youshould spend some time alone.
(23:17):
I think it would be good foryou.
And my initial reaction was justlike, okay, you just don't get
it, fine, okay, whatever.
But I should ask why.
I mean, tell me more why youthink this is important for me.
Be curious and you never know,right?
You never know what couldunfold.
We're all different, but itdoesn't mean, just because it's
different doesn't mean it won'tmesh with you.
(23:38):
You never know.
The unknown unknowns arepowerful.
SPEAKER_01 (23:43):
Ooh, more love.
Go back to the little voicebecause that little voice that
we all have, the little voicethat so many of us just ignore.
It's not there.
Or we turn that little voiceinto somebody else's voice
that's constantly berating usand telling us that we're not
good enough, right?
(24:03):
What was your little voicesaying to you when it kind of
showed up?
SPEAKER_00 (24:07):
So to be honest, and this is going to sound really
weird, but I feel like I have,not crazy, I promise, but I
definitely feel like I have Somany voices inside of my head.
Do you know the movie InsideOut?
Oh my God,
SPEAKER_01 (24:21):
yes.
That's life, right?
SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
Right?
I'm convinced this is what'sgoing on inside.
I don't hear what science issaying.
Yes,
SPEAKER_01 (24:28):
this is it.
And this is all based on sciencebecause we have, I say it's like
you have a group of almost like30 school kids running around
doing different things and theyare all of your different voices
but I also have this characterthat shows up and I don't know
if I said it when we werecoaching but I have this Tony
Soprano character he just showsup and it's like um that's when
(24:52):
I know I need to pay somethingattention I love it but what's
your like what's your internaldialogue like are you literally
seeing it as inside out
SPEAKER_00 (25:02):
yeah 100% I like to entertain myself I focus
internally almost all the time.
So I like to entertain myself,right?
So in my mind, yes, this isexactly what it looks like.
And the voices that I want toempower and I want to strengthen
are, you know, veryapproachable, very friendly.
They look good, all that.
And the ones I don't, they looklike the kind of voices you
(25:25):
don't want to listen to anyway.
So it makes my life a little biteasier.
And that's honestly, I recommendthis as a tool to try because
Definitely works for me becauseit changes.
I mean, the size, initially whenI was talking about that small
voice, in that story, that smallvoice was something I should
empower.
But sometimes it's the opposite.
Sometimes it's a small voicethat's quite negative, but it
(25:48):
just won't go away.
And that's when you need to kindof push to the side, but address
it as well, right?
Don't just ignore it.
Talk back to it.
If it's telling you you're notenough, No, I am so enough, you
know?
Who are you?
Who are you, little voice?
SPEAKER_01 (26:05):
This is brilliant.
So tell me, Angie, in terms ofwhere you're at in terms of
coaching, share, dish, what'shappening?
Are you working with a specificarea or who would absolutely
benefit from working with you?
Apart from me, obviously.
SPEAKER_00 (26:24):
Yeah, no, I'm so, so, so, so happy with coaching.
I mean, it's...
I'm just, I'm so blessed andgrateful that this is my career.
I absolutely love it.
I love my clients so, so much.
And I feel part of theirjourneys, you know, and in terms
of who would benefit, I thinkthere's two types of people that
(26:45):
really, really benefit fromcoaching.
And I think one is someone thatis feeling lost, right?
You feel like You want somethingmore.
Something's not feeling right.
You feel like kind of likeyou're just flowing through
life, but you're not, no realemotion happening there.
And it's very monotone is how Iwould describe it.
(27:05):
If that's someone like that andyou want more, coaching is great
for you because you get toexplore what this more looks
like for you and then startliving that.
The second type of person issomeone that's happy with their
life.
likes their job, likes theirkind of their environment,
everything, but they want toelevate to a next step.
(27:26):
Maybe they don't know what thisnext step is.
Maybe they're ready to take itto the next level, elevate it
somehow or enhance it somehow.
That's also a different type ofclient.
The goals are different, but Imean, everyone's journey is
really different, I think.
It's really just about livingthe life you want to live now.
Don't wait, please.
SPEAKER_01 (27:46):
I so agree with you.
But also something you said tome the other day that has really
struck a chord, because you werementioning the whole thing
around millennial mindset.
And I see this as my children.
They're not even totallymillennials.
They're younger, but they're somuch more connected with
themselves and seeking answers alot earlier than what I was able
(28:09):
to do.
You was talking about how whenit comes to millennials, you
really want them to be in aplace where they're able to deal
with all that stuff, all thestuff that comes up in your 40s
and 50s and 60s.
It shouldn't be coming up atthat point, all those regrets,
all those things that you neverdid.
Elaborate on that, if you
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
will.
I love working with millennialsbecause, well, when I'm a
millennial, And I also feel likeit's a good age range.
So like millennials, they'rebetween 20, 25, I think, to like
43, something like that.
So it's quite a good age group.
Yeah.
So I like it.
And I think we add so muchpressure on ourselves because we
(28:52):
have all this exposure, which isamazing.
But it becomes a lot ofpressure.
And we're so ambitious.
We're like all about the hustleand working hard and finding our
passion, living our purpose.
And All these huge, massivewords that add an enormous
amount of pressure on someone.
And again, back to like thestory I was saying earlier,
(29:15):
we're not a movie as much as Iwould love for us to be.
We're not a movie and thingsdon't happen exactly that way.
So you're not going to havethis.
Some people do, but I mean, noteveryone is going to have this
moment of epiphany where theyrealize that their purpose is to
go to a third world country.
And it doesn't have to besomething so massive.
(29:37):
Your purpose could be to paint.
Your purpose could be to cook.
It's whatever it is to you.
And it doesn't have to be thishuge thing.
And I feel like we add so muchpressure on ourselves and we
ignore what we're tellingourselves because we're like,
eh, that can't be it.
Right?
Like, why can't it be it?
SPEAKER_01 (29:57):
Gosh, absolutely.
And it's so, so important whatyou're saying because the big
words, all the big P words, Icall them, right?
Passion, purpose, profit, andall of the PPP.
And we do, we align ourselves tothat.
And we do the comparison thing.
Oh, but so-and-so found theirpurpose and they're now a CEO at
(30:17):
this bank and they've got like a6 million pound, I don't know,
car or something.
UNKNOWN (30:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:22):
And then we do the other thing.
It's like so-and-so had to leaveeverything to go and set up a
school in a part of the worldwhere education isn't so easily
accessible.
And then we have these hugeideas of what it means to be.
You have to be this or this.
And you can't have this if youhave this.
And then in that, we ignore thatvoice.
SPEAKER_00 (30:42):
100%.
SPEAKER_01 (30:44):
So what you're saying is nail on the head
there, on point.
SPEAKER_00 (30:49):
Yeah.
UNKNOWN (30:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (30:50):
Listen to yourself and there is no dream too small
or too big.
If it means something to you,that should mean the world.
If it makes you happy, that'sit, right?
That's what we want.
SPEAKER_01 (31:01):
Yes.
And it's all part of the humanexperience.
We can't all be here to, youknow, my podcast is kind of very
spiritually aligned.
So it's like, like your soul'spurpose in this life could just
be to actually find pleasure inin those little things.
The alignment of that, thatcould be part of its learning.
(31:24):
So when you then add all of theother stuff on top of it, you're
just removing yourself away fromwhat you're here to really do.
I
SPEAKER_00 (31:33):
love that so much.
Completely agree.
SPEAKER_01 (31:35):
Yeah, yeah.
So do you feel that you're kindof living through your soul, if
you know what I
SPEAKER_00 (31:42):
mean?
To me, my purpose is spreadingpositivity.
And I truly believe that fromthe bottom of my heart.
See, mine's not that huge thing,right?
But to me, it's everythingbecause I'm such a big believer
of the ripple effect.
And I believe that if I seesomeone walking down the street
and I smile at them, I do thinkthat's spreading positivity and
(32:04):
you never know what they'll goon to do.
Maybe they just needed someoneto smile at them at that point
in time.
You never know.
So yeah, I do believe I amliving my soul's purpose.
SPEAKER_01 (32:16):
Oh, that just makes me feel all kind of gooey.
I love it.
And it's such an amazing smileas well.
So keep sharing.
So Angie, where can people getin touch with you, firstly?
SPEAKER_00 (32:31):
The best place to get in touch with me, I'm very
quick there, is definitelyInstagram.
You can DM me.
I'm more than happy to chat.
I love, love, love connectingwith new people.
So Instagram, it's Angie Guiro.
And yeah, I'd love to chat.
SPEAKER_01 (32:49):
What I also ask my guests as well is, what would be
your top tip for you'd like toleave out for listeners and also
if you would leave a questionfor the listeners so what would
be your top tip and whatquestion would you like to leave
out there
SPEAKER_00 (33:07):
okay my top tip would be to empower yourself to
live the life you truly want tolive This is huge for me.
And this is what I try to dowith my clients.
And if I wanted to give someoneanything in the world, it would
be that.
That would be it.
(33:27):
Whatever that looks like to you,if it makes you, your soul
happy, if it brings you innerpeace, if that's what success
looks like to you, whatever, allthose words, right?
If you're at peace, do that,find that and do it and be it
and live it.
And it's your life.
Live the way you want to live.
And remember, Question.
(33:48):
A question I would say is if youhad a magic wand and you had the
power to be anywhere, doanything, be anyone, what would
that look like?
Paint that picture with yourwand.
Yeah.
What would
SPEAKER_01 (34:07):
that look like?
I love that question.
We haven't had that one yet.
SPEAKER_00 (34:12):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (34:14):
Brilliant.
Excellent.
So Just Angie, remind us onemore time where people can
contact you because they canalso contact you to let you know
the answer to that question,can't they?
SPEAKER_00 (34:27):
Oh my God, I would love that.
Please do.
I would love that.
And again, Instagram is the bestplace to connect with me.
It's Angie Kira.
You can also check out mywebsite.
But again, I would like to chatwith you.
So Instagram.
SPEAKER_01 (34:40):
Amazing.
Thank you.
Do you have anything else you'dlike to share, add or round off
with?
SPEAKER_00 (34:47):
I just like to thank you for your time.
I loved this conversation.
Loved seeing you, chatting withyou as always.
I think I'd just like to leaveeveryone with, yeah, do
something that spreads a littlepositivity today.
I
SPEAKER_01 (35:03):
hope you enjoyed that.
Thank you for joining me forthis episode of Eternal
Paradigm.
Join me next time.
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