June 9, 2021 • 49 mins
Speaking from the heart about her personal growth journey, Kalia Quinores shares her take on mental health, her life's vision and her learning.
Telling her truth and sharing the difficulties that have arisen in Kalia's life there has been one mainstay and that has been her connection to animals even while she learned and navigated herself and determined how to understand who she is.
The brilliant petreneur and spiritual podcaster of Light above Solitude is open and honest in her conversation about what she has learned, people who have guided and mentored her and what she has planned for her bright future.
Guest: Kalia Quinores
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Hello.
Welcome to this episode ofEternal Paradigm.
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What is possible when you allowyourself to move to another
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incredible souls who have joinedme to talk about their
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We all feel things and connectto things in different ways.
And that is the beauty of beinghuman.
We may be able to connect onbigger ideas or beliefs or
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the most important thing we getso fixated on the destination we
get so fixated on this idea ofwhat the conclusion should be
but ultimately It transcendsthat.
We're here to have a humanexperience and that means
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That means being.
That means, you know,experiencing.
Let me not take away too muchtime from what else is
happening, peeps.
So we have an incredible episodefor you today with Kalia, who is
going to introduce herself andtell you more about herself and
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Like, Totally adore.
She is incredible.
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incredible, incredible people,some of who I am now connected
to and will be planning onhassling them and just being on
their radar for like a longtime.
But coming back to this, I keepdoing this.
I keep going around in a circle,trying to tell you something and
then coming back.
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My next guest.
So we've got episodes now forthe next four to six episodes.
Four to six, not four to six.
But there are things happeningand I do plan on taking a short
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And I will be appearing on otherpodcasts, which I'm really,
really, really excited about,really looking forward to.
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And also it's because it givesme a chance to talk about other
things, not just some of thedepressing things that I have
spoken about on EternalParadigm.
Not to say that Eternal Paradigmis at all depressing.
It's just some of the subjectareas that we do end up covering
tend to be quite kind ofheartfelt, very much around kind
of emotion and emotiveexperience Yeah, actually, life
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itself is not just about havingemotive experiences, right?
It's about being truly connectedto the creative process.
That's what it's all about.
So now I'm going to leave you tolet you head on over into this
incredible episode.
Keep in touch, stay in touch andcheck out Kalia's amazing
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podcast, Light Over Solitude.
SPEAKER_02 (06:37):
My name is Kalia Quinoris.
I identify as a fellow podcasterand a petpreneur.
I'm an unapologetic dog mom, andI'm obsessed with growth and
anything woo-woo and out there.
I have a podcast of my own, likeI said, called Light Above
Solitude, where we talk aboutself-growth and self-discovery.
And I also have a pop-up shopfor dog lovers.
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It is called Front Seat Rider,named after my little hound,
Mixed Rider.
SPEAKER_01 (07:05):
I love the fact that you're just unapologetic.
Like, I am not apologetic.
And I kind of feel like, shouldI apologize for my kids?
SPEAKER_02 (07:14):
Because I always am.
SPEAKER_01 (07:16):
I'm like always apologizing because they've done
something they shouldn't have.
SPEAKER_02 (07:21):
That is understandable.
My dogs do the same thing.
But my thought behindunapologetic was actually when
the dog mom movement started andthe real moms had an issue with
us calling our fur babies babiesbecause it is a whole different
experience.
But if you break it down, it'sreally these are souls, living
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beings that I'm taking care ofand I'm responsible for their
health, their safety, theirwell-being.
And to me, that is just thebasic love of being a mother and
a nurturing figure.
So I am unapologetic withcalling myself a mom, even
though I haven't had humanbabies.
SPEAKER_01 (08:01):
Thank you for opening up about that and for
being clear, because one of thethings we put a lot of focus on
is actually physically carryinga baby.
And actually, when it comes tonurturing and being nurturing,
that's something that all of uscan do towards each other and
towards animals.
So thank you.
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that
SPEAKER_02 (08:22):
absolutely so that's why I'm unapologetic
SPEAKER_01 (08:25):
that's good that's good so tell me okay we have
spoken before and there havebeen some weeks where we've
spoken a lot pretty much everyother day and I love the fact
that you're also open aboutanything woo woo let's talk
about the anything woo woothat's close to my heart
SPEAKER_02 (08:45):
yes sure thing so I think I will have to do my
backstory now so Francia Writerstarted as a blog.
I was just looking for ways tomake money online because I knew
I wanted to be my own boss.
I wanted to live thatentrepreneurial life and I
needed to figure out how to getout of my nine to five.
So how do I make money?
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Start Googling how to make moneyonline, right?
I found blogging and I'm like,okay, I've written things
before.
I enjoy writing.
So let's try this out.
And then I was like, what theheck am I going to talk about?
You know, what am I passionateabout enough that I can continue
to bring content, that Icontinue to bring enthusiasm to
this thing?
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And I was like, it's dogs.
It has to be dogs.
So I started Front Seat Rider,named it after my little hound
mix.
And three months in, no joke, Iwas like, this isn't working.
I can't do this.
I can't just talk about dogs.
I have to go deeper.
What do dogs really mean to me?
And all the dogs and all theanimals in my life have just
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been such a crucial part in mymental health and just the
growth of me as a person.
And it's really funny how ithappened because it was the end
of 2017.
So by January 2018, I decided Iwas going to change the blog to
talk to dog moms aboutdepression.
And 2018 was the year of thedog.
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So I was like, okay, this isfrickin' Perfect.
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and nobody was any wiser.
So I wanted a place where peoplefelt safe to really explore and
come to terms with what theywere dealing with on the inside,
not have to put up a persona ora front or a mask, and really be
okay if the only person you feelsafe around is your dog, because
that's where I was at.
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I couldn't make humaninteractions.
I wasn't safe to be my own self.
And so I found that sanctuarywithin the animals in my life.
And I wanted that message to beokay and break that mental
stigma around mental health.
So I started Front Seat Rider.
You
SPEAKER_01 (11:15):
know what?
That's so, so powerful becauselike you said, you realized you
had to go deeper and thatabsolute recognition of the fact
that dogs and animals generallywere actually helping you giving
you that space to face yourselfat that time when you had to
show up as someone else.
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And that's a really tough placeto be.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (11:39):
Yes, it is.
It was really interestinglooking back on my journey
because I knew this biggermission.
I knew the mission of of lettingpeople know it's okay that they
have these feelings and lettingpeople know that it's okay if
you do have to perform as what Icall a high-functioning
depressed person, where you dohave that persona of
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everything's okay, life isgreat, but on the inside, it's
not okay.
But I never had the chance todive into that myself, so that
process happened while I wasblogging.
That process happened of I nowput myself in this position
where I have to be this guidefor other people.
but what's my story?
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Why do I feel that this isimportant?
It wasn't until I startedwriting those blogs that I
realized that my depressionstarted as early as the age of
seven, which to me felt unreal.
I knew we have the angstyteenage hormones and all that
other stuff, but age seven and IIt all started because we moved
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at that age.
And we moved from a cul-de-sacfull of kids to out in the
country, a mile, if not more,from the next child.
And we lived on a highway, so itwasn't like I could just walk
there.
So it was really an interestingjourney, just figuring myself
out as I was putting myself outthere at the same time.
SPEAKER_01 (13:03):
That is incredible, the fact that you were able to
reflect and dig back and go backto that child, the
seven-year-old you, where yourworld had changed.
And that's a big shift.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
Yes.
I didn't know if I reallybelieved in mental health in
such a young age, honestly.
The typical adult, right, islike, what do children have to
worry about?
They don't have bills.
They don't have to take care ofthemselves, all these things,
right?
And I never had that.
I wasn't from a broken home.
My family was still intact.
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My parents were in a lovingrelationship.
I never had, say, hardships ortraumas that I went through.
But it started from that lackof, I guess, socialization when
I moved.
And we moved to the countrywhere we started accumulating
animals.
And therefore, animals didbecome my family and my friend
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group.
So it was very interestinglooking back on how these all
tied into each other.
SPEAKER_01 (14:06):
Yeah, I can imagine.
So tell me what happened whenyou started accumulating the
animals.
What was that about?
What is it that shifted for you?
And what changed for you at thatpoint?
Had you had animals or petsbefore that?
SPEAKER_02 (14:22):
Before we moved, my parents had two dogs.
My dad was the dog person and mymom is a cat person.
But my dad had two dogs.
My mom had two cats.
We also had...
some ducks, and I think one ortwo chickens.
And I had a rabbit very, verybriefly during that first home,
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that first place.
And so I knew I had a connectionwith dogs.
My very first dog was my dad'sdog, Pua, who was a Doberman
Pinscher.
My dog after we moved to thefarm was a German Shepherd mix.
But Pua was a Doberman Pinscher,and she had a very calm
personality.
wise spirit.
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She was very, if you look at thebreed, they're very majestic and
regal, very statuesque, I say.
But her demeanor was so calm andso zen and so happy and loving.
And she actually became my nannydog because she and Brandy, who
was a Britney Spaniel, werethere before I was born.
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And so when I came into thefamily, Pua just took me into
her arms and just made me herbaby.
Like, she would protect me nomatter what.
And so growing up from zero toseven before he moved, she was
my biggest support system.
I was afraid of our other dogbecause...
If anyone knows Spaniels, youknow that they have a ton of
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energy, right?
They're always bouncing off thewalls.
And as a little person, thatscared the poop out of me.
So Pua would sense my fear andjust put herself in between me
and Brandy and just be thatshield for me like, okay, I got
you.
So from the very, verybeginning, I knew I had this
connection with animals.
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I knew I could trust them.
And then when we moved, my momhad it set on her heart to have
a little farm.
Even though she's the cityslicker and my dad's more of the
country person, my mom wantedthis little farm.
SPEAKER_01 (16:21):
Amazing.
And she had her heart set onthis and that's it.
It was going to happen.
SPEAKER_02 (16:27):
Yes, it was going to happen.
To this day, she's obsessed withcows.
Everything in her house is cows,but we've never had a cow
because she loves them too muchto have them as an entity to the
farm.
That is so funny.
Yeah.
So we ended up, like I said,accumulating all these animals.
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We started out with littlethings.
We had the cats from the move.
We didn't bring the dogs withus, which is also kind of this
confused child, like, where didmy friends go?
I now have nothing.
Come to find out that they wereat just that point in their life
where the move wasn't going tobe very good for them.
But I didn't learn that until Iwas a teenager.
UNKNOWN (17:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (17:11):
So we started accumulating.
We had chickens, rabbits.
We ended up getting twominiature horses and a large
horse later on.
Goats, like the works, right?
And a couple of years into ourmove, we ended up being gifted.
A friend of the family adopted adog for us because she knew we
needed another dog.
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The German Shepherd mix,Chelsea.
And Chelsea quickly became thatfiller for where I was missing
Pua.
She's definitely a differenttype of dog.
She was more high energy and shewas a lot younger too.
So that played into it as well.
But Chelsea became my bestfriend when there was no other
kids around to play with.
And I didn't have a whole lot offriends at school.
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So I'd come home.
And I'd sit with Chelsea on theporch and she became that zen
spot for me.
I'd sing to her.
I'd tell her about my day, allthe things.
And then as I grew up, the farmbecame my responsibility.
I would feed the animals beforeschool and after school.
And just with that interactionalone, being their primary
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caretaker, they were my family.
It became all of them.
I'd tell Slick, my littleminiature horse, how my day went
and he'd come over and give mekisses.
And I'd I'd ask him how his daywith his favorite cat, Sadie,
went.
All these things.
So my connection with animalshas always been like there.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_01 (18:36):
it's lovely.
And, you know, it's just lovelyto be able to have that as an
experience because not manypeople do.
And even if they're naturallywired to be near animals, our
kind of life it doesn't allow itif that makes sense
SPEAKER_02 (18:52):
yes my my partner right now my boyfriend he's
never had animals growing up buthe's always loved them and as an
adult he's the one that all thefriends call the house and dog
sit and so since we've beentogether he now has our two fur
babies and yeah he's just sohappy you would have never known
that he never had thisexperience as a child
SPEAKER_01 (19:12):
it's so important that children are allowed to
explore the world with animalsand I Yes.
(19:39):
A lot of what you have beentalking about in all of your
memories of the dogs and theanimals, you've touched on this.
You've said, oh, you know,so-and-so had a really zen kind
of vibe and the energy wasthere.
And unless we humanize them, wedon't really allow them to be
who they are.
And I think that's one of ourflaws.
SPEAKER_02 (20:01):
Yes, I love that idea.
I've never actually put it sosuccinctly.
So thank you.
But it's true.
I mean, if I didn't look at themas my friends and really try to
get to know them outside ofyou're just a different species.
You're an animal, not a human.
And therefore, we're on adifferent level.
We're all, I feel, on the samelevel.
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We're all on this planet.
We all incarnate as something.
Some people are human and somepeople are animals.
And those souls are just asintricate as we are.
They just communicate in adifferent way.
They live in a different way.
But they're the same thing.
inside.
I don't know how I'm able to saythis succinctly as you are, but
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they have souls.
They are very soul and spiritualbeings.
SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
Yeah, no, I get that.
And this is actually really,really important because you've
found that in your journey, asyou were going through your own
spiritual awakening, yourdifferent growth, almost like
your aha moments, that you wereable to connect spiritually with
your pets.
SPEAKER_02 (21:06):
Yes, yes.
So going through the bloggingand learning Thank you so much.
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I was depressed.
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And he would really feel intowhat I needed and mirror that in
a way that was purposeful andmeaningful in my life.
And each one of these animalshave done so.
I now have two dogs.
I have Ryder and Lena.
And Lena is the completeopposite of Ryder.
So now I feel as if my mentalhealth is in a plateau.
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We've talked about this beforewhere mental health is that
strange thing where it'sfluctuating all the time and you
have highs and lows.
But for the most part, my mentalhealth is stable.
My emotional health is stable.
And now that that's so, we haveadopted a dog who's very mellow
and zen.
And she teaches me about justpatience.
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The art of receiving is what I'mreally learning from her, just
waiting for the things.
The universe always has yourback.
She's never going to go withouta meal.
She's never going to go withoutgoing outside.
She'll just wait for it.
Oh, it's that time?
Great.
I received that gratefully.
It's that time to go out.
So there's just so many lessonsthat I've learned from each and
every animal along the way.
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And it wasn't until I gotinvolved with the brand Dog is
Good and my mentor Gila, whowrote the book Fur-Covered
Wisdom, kind of about herjourney with mental health and
how her dog Bolo has helped herout of that.
But she talks about dogisms,which are all the lessons that
you've learned from dog or thatshe personally has learned from
her dog.
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And after looking at all theaspects, like Yes, dogs teach us
unconditional love.
Yes, dogs teach us loyalty, butreally breaking down how they
live their life and applyingthat to how we live our life.
It's amazing to see how manylessons that you can really
learn from these beings becausethey're also spirits that are
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walking this earth and they haveto learn how to be of the world
that we're in also.
So it's been fascinating.
I love them.
SPEAKER_01 (23:54):
Yeah, absolutely.
You know that when you talkabout the fact that when you
weren't feeling like you couldperform, you know, show up, that
it's okay because Ryder wasthere to turn it around.
To me, it sounds almost like wasthere as a reminder that
actually go back to basicsbecause the simple things are
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actually what you need to remindyou that you're human.
And that's a significant lessonfor all of us.
SPEAKER_02 (24:20):
Yes, absolutely.
Go to the bathroom when you wakeup.
Feed yourself.
Get a drink of water.
Yes, these are very, veryelementary needs that all souls
on this earth need.
And he was definitely aconstant, tangible reminder of
get outside.
Fuel your soul.
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I call it photosynthesize.
Get your sun rays, your vitaminD in.
And feed yourself.
Drink water.
Be in the moment.
Because what I learnedthroughout this process, too, is
that mental health is aboutliving in the past or the
future.
It's never about living in thepresent, where my depression
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stemmed from what I felt werepast failures.
But now I know nothing is ever afailure.
And then anxiety that I felt,writers helped me with my social
anxiety.
I used to never want to gooutside and walk him for fear of
running into other people.
And He's helping me with thatbecause he's cute.
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And people who are dog loverswould be like, oh my gosh,
what's your dog's name?
Tell me about him, blah, blah,blah.
And it was just this naturalicebreaker that I was able to
just get over my fear.
And okay, I know how to talkabout Ryder.
Ryder is cute.
We can bond on this.
This person's not going to harmme, not going to whatever.
And so this reminder constantlyof staying in the present.
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What do you need right now?
You need to eat.
What do you need right now?
You need to get out.
It's amazing.
They're amazing creatures.
SPEAKER_01 (25:52):
Absolutely.
Like you said, mental health isthis up and down fluctuating
journey from day to day, frommoment to moment.
And developing the tool sets onhow to do that and deal with it
or do whatever needs to happenin that moment is so important.
But when you now reflect on yourdepression, because you've
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mentioned that there was asignificant change in your life
when you were seven.
What were the other factors thatcame up for you when you were
dealing with it or really livingin, I want to say the depth of
it, but I don't know if thatwould be the right way to term
it, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_02 (26:31):
Yeah, I think so.
So the significant point was themoving at seven.
And then I feel from that pointon, it was the normal stressors
of going to school, trying tomake friends, trying to fit in
all these things as a child andnot knowing how to express
myself fully.
I think Brene Brown puts this asbest as I can imagine putting
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it.
She talks about the differenceof fitting in and belonging.
Fitting in is about trying to dothe things to get accepted,
trying to find your place byassimilating.
We are all trying to fit in,which is crazy, and therefore
we're all not being our fullselves.
Whereas belonging is whereyou're fully accepted for who
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you are, whether you're similaror different from somebody else,
you find a place in a communitywhere they just love you for who
you are.
And so I was battling this, I'malways being somebody else and I
never fit in.
And so I had these depressivefeelings and then I started to
become depressed over mydepression because I look around
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and I say, you have a good life.
You have a family that lovesyou.
You're going to a good school,this, this, this, and the other,
right?
And I never had some big traumato blame it on.
So that's another reason why I'ma believer.
And it being a chemicalimbalance because there really
wasn't a reason for me to bedepressed.
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And then I held on to thosethroughout school through
leaving the home and trying toadult.
And then at 20, my dad passed.
My dad and I were closest.
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where I ignored grieving.
I thought I was grieving becauseI felt sad.
I'd cry.
I'd allow myself all thesethings, but I wasn't really
grieving.
I was really focusing on how mymom was handling the situation
or how my sister was handlingthe situation.
So say like five years down theroad, I finally allow myself to
grieve my father's deathproperly.
And then I get into toxicrelationships, this, that, and
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the other, and was basicallyoppressed and due to those
relationships I was in.
I dabble in astrology now, andit's really interesting to find
out that my son is in theseventh house of relationships,
which just means that I need tomaster the art of finding myself
and being true to my identitywithin the relationships I have.
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So my whole 20s was just losingmyself in relationship after
relationship after relationship,not finding my place.
And so it wasn't until my late20s where I realized I was in a
relationship I thought washealthy because we weren't
bashing heads.
We weren't abusing each othermentally, physically,
emotionally, all the things.
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It seemed safe.
I had a good job.
I had Ryder at that time.
I had all the things that Ithought I needed, and I still
had those depressed feelings.
And it was that moment when Iwas like, something needs to
change.
I have nothing else to blame iton.
I don't want to say I'm over mydad's death because I don't
think you're ever really overit, but I've healed from the
(30:13):
grief.
You know, I had everything and Istill felt these feelings.
And I turned to my supposed tobe husband and I said, this is
how I'm feeling.
I have no excuses to blamedepression on anymore and I
still have it.
I need help.
And I got the response of, whydon't you just be happy?
(30:35):
So I took that advice and I wentand found myself help.
But it was just like thisconstant lack of responsibility
on myself, I think, because Ijust let it happen and blamed it
on my surroundings instead ofowning myself and saying, why do
you really feel depressed?
(30:57):
What in your being needs tochange for you to feel better?
joy, to feel meaning, to feelpurpose, to feel accepting of
yourself.
That was basically the thing itwas.
I never accepted myself fully.
And so this whole journey hasled me to this point where I've
dealt with depression, and nowI'm coming into more of the
(31:18):
self-growth and spiritual sideof things, which I believe
through this whole process, I'vebeen extremely spiritual, but I
didn't know what to call it.
Yeah.
That's how I've got here.
And I feel like the grief andthe toxic relationships were the
biggest players in my mentalhealth.
SPEAKER_01 (31:36):
I'm really sorry about your dad.
Thank you.
Everything you've said is so...
What I'm hearing from you is Ifeel like you've just taken me
on a roller coaster.
My bad.
Yeah.
No, but while you're speaking,you can hear what was happening
because you're showing upeverywhere as essentially not
(31:57):
you.
And that is so hard to keep upwith.
It's the hardest thing to do.
SPEAKER_02 (32:06):
Yes, now that I'm in my spiritual awakening and
however you want to call it.
Yeah, whatever we call it.
(32:26):
And now that I'm exploring more,that's why I'm like a huge
proponent to growth andself-discovery because
everyone's made different.
Everyone is completelydifferent.
So once you truly know what ismade for you, what things you're
supposed to be working on thislifetime, what your talents and
desires are as a person, justdiscovering some tiny little
(32:48):
things like my life path numberin numerology, eye-opening to
what What I'm supposed to bedoing here.
And now I have a purpose.
Now I have meaning.
And now I can move forward.
And I feel less like, who am I?
How have I lost myself in allthese relationships?
How have I done all these thingsto this point?
And I still can't tell somebody.
(33:10):
What my hobby is, what I do forfun, who I am.
Like there was a point in mylife, somebody asked me, who are
you?
And I say, my name's Kalia.
That's the only thing I'mcertain of right now.
How are you?
How let's throw back at you.
What, who are you?
What's your
SPEAKER_01 (33:27):
name?
This is such, oh gosh, so much.
This is where I'd like to kindof ask you a little more about
your Hawaiian heritage, because,you know, this is another area,
again, that we've touched on,we've spoken about.
And you know that I am, myparents were immigrants and I am
first generation child of Indianparents.
(33:47):
So culture and heritage, havingthat connection to it,
understanding it is soimportant.
And yet you have that as onelayer of your life experience.
And then you also talk aboutnumerology and astrology and all
of the, you know, the tarot andthis whole other world of, I
(34:11):
guess, if we call it woo-woo,because that seems to be the
technical term for thisconversation, at least.
But I'm there.
So, you know, tell me a littlebit more about your Hawaiian
heritage and what happenedthere.
Because when you mentioned thatwhen your dad passed away, he
was your main connection to thatworld, to that part of you.
SPEAKER_02 (34:31):
Yeah.
So that, like you said, Thankyou so much.
So my dad gives me my Hawaiianheritage at the simplest form.
I call myself Hawaiian andwhite, but really my dad in true
(34:53):
Hawaiian fashion is a mixing potof all the Asian, all the things
and like a little bit of Dutchin there.
So I think I have blood quantumfor Hawaiian, Chinese, Filipino,
Portuguese, a little bit ofPuerto Rican, which I found out
after my dad died because togain my my father's death
(35:14):
certificate, we had to find hisbirth certificate.
And he was born before Hawaiiwas a state, so it was harder to
track down.
But once we did, his motherclaimed on his birth
certificate, Puerto Rican.
We didn't even know that thatwas part of the mix.
So I'm like, well, maybe that'swhere I get my fiery, like...
(35:36):
fiery energy when I get mad.
So there's all of that.
But simply put, I just sayHawaiian on his side, and my mom
is Caucasian.
And of course, I grew up inWashington State, very country
setting where it's predominantlywhite.
So I automatically stand out.
However, I didn't know a Howthis really played on my life
(36:00):
until the last couple years, butthere were times when my mom
would pick me up from elementaryschool and people would ask her,
who are you?
What are you doing?
Why are you taking this child?
And it's like, I, of course, atthat point had no idea what
they're talking about.
And they'd be like, who is this?
This is my mom.
I didn't realize that she lookeddifferent from me.
She's just my mom.
(36:22):
She's picking me up from school.
And then, you know, my dad wasreally adamant that we got to
know our heritage.
He put us into hula lessons assoon as we could find them
because for our area, we're hardto find unless we commuted like
three hours.
So when we are able to, he gotme into dance lessons.
I have been a Polynesian dancersince I was 11.
(36:42):
And he did as much as he couldto try to incorporate the
culture into my sister and I'slife.
But there's been just likeinstances here and there
throughout my life of peopleasking me, you know, what are
you or what's your background?
What's your heritage?
What's your culture?
All these things.
And I would say Hawaiian andthey'd be really excited.
(37:04):
I'm like, oh, how long did youlive there?
And I would say, oh, I was bornand raised in Washington.
And then the conversation wouldjust die.
Like it'd be this awkward, oh,and the person would walk away
or something.
I'm like, wait a second.
Now you're not interested in meanymore?
There was this weird dynamic ofbecause I've never lived there,
(37:24):
I don't have the Hawaiian bloodquantum anymore.
Like I'm not a significantHawaiian enough anymore.
There was even like in my 20s, Ifelt so bad.
I was working retail and thiscute little Hispanic woman came
in.
I'm talking like grandma,adorable Hispanic woman.
She walks right up to me.
And granted, we're also in atown that was predominantly
(37:47):
Hispanic.
And she just, she just talksSpanish to me, just walks up to
me, strange person, startsspeaking Spanish and And I was
like, what do I do?
What do I do?
And I'm like, I'm sorry, I don'tspeak Spanish.
And she just gave me the meanestlook, just so angry and was
like, talks to Spanish again.
And I'm like, I'm so sorry, Idon't speak Spanish.
(38:09):
And she ended up huffing it,like so angry, booking it out of
the store.
And I turned to my coworker andI'm like, I feel like I need a
t-shirt that says, I don't speakSpanish.
I'm Hawaiian.
I'm sorry because I justcompletely offended that
grandma.
Like she's probably walking outthinking this generation doesn't
want to speak their nativetongue.
Oh
SPEAKER_01 (38:31):
my gosh.
That's so painful.
It is.
I mean, hilarious.
But at the same time, I kind offeel like your t-shirt probably
should have said not Caucasianenough, not Hawaiian enough and
not Hispanic enough, by the way.
SPEAKER_02 (38:45):
Yes.
Like so many people have Yeah.
I've also come across people whoare predominantly not a fan of
(39:10):
BIPOC community.
And then they find out that I'mthe quote, what right type of
brown, like I'm a US basedbrown, as in, you know, US
territory, Hawaii is now astate.
So then all of a sudden, theconversation flips and you're
like, oh, you're American.
That's cool.
Whatever, blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, so what if I wasthe wrong kind of brown?
(39:30):
What if I was not?
And it's just these tiny littlethings.
It's taken a lot of shadow workand deep soul diving to find
peace with myself.
Because as I even was startingmy podcast in October last year,
I decided I felt really, reallycold.
(39:52):
to make an episode about myname, just my name.
The one thing that is your mostsignificant identifier when you
meet somebody is your name.
My dad didn't have the besteducation system.
Back in that time, they werestill shunning away from
speaking Hawaiian in the homeand the school and stuff like
that.
(40:12):
They were focusing on teachingEnglish.
So he didn't get a lot of thenative language of Hawaiian.
And when it comes to naming me,he knew he wanted to name me
Kalea, and he spelt itK-A-L-E-A, which in English
would be like, okay, Kalea.
But in Hawaiian, it's actuallypronounced Kalea, which has a
(40:33):
whole other set of meanings, awhole other everything.
So just knowing that, coming toa Hawaiian gathering and saying
your name is Kalea, but ifsomebody saw the way it was
spelt and realized your name'snot Kalea, your name's Kalea,
That had a whole nother layer ofwho the hell am I?
And so now I'm going by an I,like in the last three years
(40:56):
online, all my stuff is spelledwith an I because my name, my
dad would hammer it home.
I named you Kalia.
Well, Kalia is spelledK-A-L-I-A.
And he would always tell me, ifyou went to Hawaii, you would
fit in perfect because everyonelooks like you.
I'm Hapa, which means half, orin this instance, you know, half
(41:19):
Hawaiian, half white.
He's like, everyone's Hapa.
Everyone looks like you.
You'll be fine.
But when I try to blend in withpeople, I do okay until I start
speaking.
It's like, you look like you fitin.
You've got just enough brown,you know, or if it's over here,
you have just enough white,blah, blah, blah, whatever it
is.
Even in the Spanish community,you look like you fit in
(41:41):
until...
Somebody tries to come to youand talk, where did you grow up?
What island are you from?
You know, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
And then they hear my voice andthey realize that I'm not
connected to a place where theyassociate with.
I'm completely isolated.
So it's like this whole dynamicof how do I be okay with that?
And it's been this few yearjourney of just learning.
(42:02):
I'm perfect the way I am.
And there's so many benefits tothe fact that I can relate to
all these different worlds.
I can relate to the Hawaiians.
I can relate to the Caucasians.
I can bring together whatevermixture of heritage and culture
that I want is perfect for me.
And so it's been a ride.
It's been a ride for real.
SPEAKER_01 (42:24):
You know what?
It definitely sounds like it,but it sounds more like other
people have a stronger affinityand a need to box you up because
it makes them feel better, youknow?
Yeah.
And when it comes to your name,I'm so glad you mentioned that
because that's actually one ofmy favorite episodes because
it's something that really hitshome with me because I have a
(42:46):
short four letter name that hasSanskrit origins.
But actually in India, you know,it's a name that is specific to
certain regions, certainlanguages, certain cultures and
backgrounds.
And yet at the same time, it's avery strong Russian name and
it's four letters.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (43:26):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_01 (43:28):
Yes.
Yeah.
I have a confession.
I've said it now.
I love that.
SPEAKER_02 (43:34):
Thank you for confessing.
That's so juicy.
It's like you're one identifierwhen people meet you.
What's your name is usually thefirst thing.
And if you're confused at anypoint at what your even name is,
how am I even going to go intothe fact of like, what kind of
person am I?
SPEAKER_01 (43:53):
Oh, gosh.
It's so tough.
So tough.
What's in a name?
Yeah, we could go Shakespeare,right?
Yes.
So I think what comes up for meis you've spoken about the kind
of heritage thing.
the mix, the being able to bewho you are, but in different
places and unearthing anddiscovering who you are.
(44:15):
And yet when it comes to,especially with dogs, we kind of
celebrate crossbreeding.
We celebrate the, you know, andyet the same kind of generosity
or kind of human acceptance isnot afforded to people.
And that seems quite sad.
SPEAKER_02 (44:34):
Oh my gosh, that's so true.
Dogs have made this stellartransition from the backyard on
a, you know, a chain on a poleor whatever you have it to
inside the home and now to inthe bed and to wherever we want
to take them.
And it's so true to see thatevolution with mutts as well.
(44:54):
Mutts used to be the breednobody wanted.
Like we don't even know whatthis is.
We don't want it, right?
And I pride myself because I douse a lot of dog lingo in my
promotions, day-to-day life,whatever you want to have it.
I call myself a mixed breedbecause really, like I said, I
don't know all the things thateven made up my father.
So how am I supposed to knowwhat makes up me?
But with this evolution, of likethe designer breeds.
(45:18):
Now we have the golden doodlesand like how huge that they've
become.
They're a mutt.
They're two different purebredanimals making one new designer
breed.
And sooner or later down theroad, I mean, really everyone's
going to be a mutt.
I'm hoping that we all become aninclusive community and we all
(45:39):
start co-mingling, but like Thedesigner breed in the dog world
has made leaps, bounds, andstrides in the fact that we're
more valuable if we take theassets that we want from each
other and build a cohesive unitthat celebrates all the aspects.
All the aspects.
We love golden doodles becausethey're friendly like a golden
(46:01):
retriever, cute and manageable,and hyperallergenic like a
poodle.
Why can't we be like that withall the people?
If I look at myself and I say...
I love the fact that I have darkbrown hair and brown eyes, but I
also love the fact that mashedpotatoes are possibly the best
food on the planet.
I can embrace every aspect ofmyself and know that I'm perfect
(46:23):
and I'm more valuable because Ihave all these other experiences
in my life.
SPEAKER_01 (46:28):
I love that.
I'm with you, by the way.
Mashed potatoes are...
anything potato man anythingpotato exactly it's like bring
it on oh I love that and so whatI like to ask guests at this
point is if you could share aquestion for the listeners it
(46:48):
could be any question that youhave faced asked yourself you
know what would you like to kindof leave out there
SPEAKER_02 (46:55):
Oh, man.
So I'm going to cheat since I'malso a podcaster and I have a
few closing questions that I usefor my podcast.
My new thing right now is askingpeople what lights you up.
Because if you really get to theroot of things and think about
what makes you happy, that'swhat the world needs.
The world doesn't need anotheraccountant or dog walker or all
(47:19):
these other things.
They need people who are simplyjust doing what makes them
freaking happy.
If you're emulating that lightthat was given to only you, the
things that make you light up,then the whole world is going to
receive that light and warmth.
Nobody's going to ask, well, howdid you get there?
What are you doing to do it?
They're just going to know thatyou're living in your complete
(47:42):
happy state.
So what lights you up?
Dogs light me up, but let's getdeeper than that.
I like also asking the sevenwhys to unfold the depths of
things.
So why do dogs light you up?
Because they're awesomecompanions.
Why are they awesome companions?
And just keep unfolding all theway down to the end of what
truly lights you up and why.
(48:03):
If you're not doing it, do it.
Do the thing is the
SPEAKER_01 (48:08):
most important part.
Thank you so much.
I love that.
And actually the asking the whyand then questioning with a
because.
It's my favorite thing to do.
SPEAKER_02 (48:16):
Yay.
Awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (48:19):
So where can people find you?
SPEAKER_02 (48:22):
Sure.
So I'm on Instagram at thespiritual dog mom, and I just
opened up a new community calledluminaries, which is a companion
community to the podcast, butyou don't have to be a podcast
listener.
And it's at luminaries dot lightabove solitude.com.
SPEAKER_01 (48:41):
I hope you enjoyed that thank you for joining me
for this episode of EternalParadigm join me next time
Welcome to Eternal Paradigm.
Together, we're uncovering humanexperience by exploring
physical, mental, emotional, andspiritual stories.
With me, your host, Ermi Ravel.
Hello.
Welcome to this episode ofEternal Paradigm.
So I am quite, let's say, alittle bit sad because the
(00:23):
Creativity Series has come to anend for the time being.
That's not to say it won't beback.
But it has come to an end for,like I said, for now.
And we're moving on.
We're moving onwards andupwards.
And I am so, so pleased to haveyou here join me.
We are celebrating.
(00:44):
The podcast listeners areincreasing.
The community is growing.
The feedback I get is stillconstant and big.
So kind of be a part of that.
It's just been truly phenomenal.
What is possible when you allowyourself to move to another
space?
(01:04):
And that's been true for all ofmy guests, for all of these
incredible souls who have joinedme to talk about their
experiences.
And also for all of thelisteners who take away at least
one thing from every episode,because that's what it's about.
Your experience is yours.
(01:24):
My experience is mine.
We all feel things and connectto things in different ways.
And that is the beauty of beinghuman.
We may be able to connect onbigger ideas or beliefs or
whatever have you, butultimately, When it comes to
being human, it's all aboutconnecting to your human
(01:46):
experience.
And that shows up for people inso many different ways.
And that's why this podcast iswhat it is.
Even though everybody has knowsome some of the conclusions
that the guests or even you as alistener may have come to in
life might be the same assomeone you know next to you
(02:06):
your experience and your journeythat is the focus and that is
the most important thing we getso fixated on the destination we
get so fixated on this idea ofwhat the conclusion should be
but ultimately It transcendsthat.
We're here to have a humanexperience and that means
(02:27):
living.
That means being.
That means, you know,experiencing.
Let me not take away too muchtime from what else is
happening, peeps.
So we have an incredible episodefor you today with Kalia, who is
going to introduce herself andtell you more about herself and
(02:48):
who I absolutely adore.
Like, Totally adore.
She is incredible.
Before we head off, just a quickreminder.
There are new and excitingthings in the pipeline.
Make sure you've checked out theEternal Paradigm website.
Have you signed up for thenewsletter yet?
Have you done that?
And if you haven't, why not?
(03:10):
So what else can I tell you guysabout?
Obviously, there's the Facebookpage.
Have you headed over even to theFacebook page?
Have you checked it out?
Have you joined the EternalParadigm Facebook group?
We're currently celebrating 27members, which is quite
exciting.
The Instagram community is alsogrowing, which is absolutely
(03:35):
phenomenal.
Keep it coming.
Keep it coming.
And also, guys, it's not justabout growing the community.
And this is so important.
It's about being a part of acommunity, to be an active part
of a community.
You basically be a part of it.
That means you share yourlearning, you share what you're
(03:56):
able to in a way that isconsiderate and respectful.
And that's what I would really,really encourage all of you to
do.
And I am so grateful foreveryone who gets in touch with
me.
I love that.
I think it's absolutelyphenomenal.
But I would also love toencourage you and invite you
come over, join the Facebookgroup.
I will not lie, I have beenquiet for the last few weeks,
(04:18):
partly because of a few healthissues.
But That is how things go.
Ultimately, you will find moreinformation on the website, as I
keep saying every week, iscurrently being worked on in the
background.
In addition to this, we've also,like I said, got the Facebook
group, we've got the Facebookpage, and we've got an amazing
(04:40):
Instagram page as well.
Head on over, get in touch, keepin touch, and keep listening.
And this episode is, we'recoming back now, so as many of
you were able to Join us for thecreativity series, which was
phenomenal.
It was amazing.
I mean, it was just so much funto record, to connect with these
(05:03):
incredible, incredible people,some of who I am now connected
to and will be planning onhassling them and just being on
their radar for like a longtime.
But coming back to this, I keepdoing this.
I keep going around in a circle,trying to tell you something and
then coming back.
So let me start from this point.
Let me just say, Join us, jointhe community.
(05:26):
My next guest.
So we've got episodes now forthe next four to six episodes.
Four to six, not four to six.
But there are things happeningand I do plan on taking a short
break in between as well.
And I will be appearing on otherpodcasts, which I'm really,
really, really excited about,really looking forward to.
(05:48):
And also it's because it givesme a chance to talk about other
things, not just some of thedepressing things that I have
spoken about on EternalParadigm.
Not to say that Eternal Paradigmis at all depressing.
It's just some of the subjectareas that we do end up covering
tend to be quite kind ofheartfelt, very much around kind
of emotion and emotiveexperience Yeah, actually, life
(06:12):
itself is not just about havingemotive experiences, right?
It's about being truly connectedto the creative process.
That's what it's all about.
So now I'm going to leave you tolet you head on over into this
incredible episode.
Keep in touch, stay in touch andcheck out Kalia's amazing
(06:34):
podcast, Light Over Solitude.
SPEAKER_02 (06:37):
My name is Kalia Quinoris.
I identify as a fellow podcasterand a petpreneur.
I'm an unapologetic dog mom, andI'm obsessed with growth and
anything woo-woo and out there.
I have a podcast of my own, likeI said, called Light Above
Solitude, where we talk aboutself-growth and self-discovery.
And I also have a pop-up shopfor dog lovers.
(07:01):
It is called Front Seat Rider,named after my little hound,
Mixed Rider.
SPEAKER_01 (07:05):
I love the fact that you're just unapologetic.
Like, I am not apologetic.
And I kind of feel like, shouldI apologize for my kids?
SPEAKER_02 (07:14):
Because I always am.
SPEAKER_01 (07:16):
I'm like always apologizing because they've done
something they shouldn't have.
SPEAKER_02 (07:21):
That is understandable.
My dogs do the same thing.
But my thought behindunapologetic was actually when
the dog mom movement started andthe real moms had an issue with
us calling our fur babies babiesbecause it is a whole different
experience.
But if you break it down, it'sreally these are souls, living
(07:43):
beings that I'm taking care ofand I'm responsible for their
health, their safety, theirwell-being.
And to me, that is just thebasic love of being a mother and
a nurturing figure.
So I am unapologetic withcalling myself a mom, even
though I haven't had humanbabies.
SPEAKER_01 (08:01):
Thank you for opening up about that and for
being clear, because one of thethings we put a lot of focus on
is actually physically carryinga baby.
And actually, when it comes tonurturing and being nurturing,
that's something that all of uscan do towards each other and
towards animals.
So thank you.
(08:21):
that
SPEAKER_02 (08:22):
absolutely so that's why I'm unapologetic
SPEAKER_01 (08:25):
that's good that's good so tell me okay we have
spoken before and there havebeen some weeks where we've
spoken a lot pretty much everyother day and I love the fact
that you're also open aboutanything woo woo let's talk
about the anything woo woothat's close to my heart
SPEAKER_02 (08:45):
yes sure thing so I think I will have to do my
backstory now so Francia Writerstarted as a blog.
I was just looking for ways tomake money online because I knew
I wanted to be my own boss.
I wanted to live thatentrepreneurial life and I
needed to figure out how to getout of my nine to five.
So how do I make money?
(09:06):
Start Googling how to make moneyonline, right?
I found blogging and I'm like,okay, I've written things
before.
I enjoy writing.
So let's try this out.
And then I was like, what theheck am I going to talk about?
You know, what am I passionateabout enough that I can continue
to bring content, that Icontinue to bring enthusiasm to
this thing?
(09:26):
And I was like, it's dogs.
It has to be dogs.
So I started Front Seat Rider,named it after my little hound
mix.
And three months in, no joke, Iwas like, this isn't working.
I can't do this.
I can't just talk about dogs.
I have to go deeper.
What do dogs really mean to me?
And all the dogs and all theanimals in my life have just
(09:48):
been such a crucial part in mymental health and just the
growth of me as a person.
And it's really funny how ithappened because it was the end
of 2017.
So by January 2018, I decided Iwas going to change the blog to
talk to dog moms aboutdepression.
And 2018 was the year of thedog.
(10:10):
So I was like, okay, this isfrickin' Perfect.
(10:35):
and nobody was any wiser.
So I wanted a place where peoplefelt safe to really explore and
come to terms with what theywere dealing with on the inside,
not have to put up a persona ora front or a mask, and really be
okay if the only person you feelsafe around is your dog, because
that's where I was at.
(10:57):
I couldn't make humaninteractions.
I wasn't safe to be my own self.
And so I found that sanctuarywithin the animals in my life.
And I wanted that message to beokay and break that mental
stigma around mental health.
So I started Front Seat Rider.
You
SPEAKER_01 (11:15):
know what?
That's so, so powerful becauselike you said, you realized you
had to go deeper and thatabsolute recognition of the fact
that dogs and animals generallywere actually helping you giving
you that space to face yourselfat that time when you had to
show up as someone else.
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And that's a really tough placeto be.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (11:39):
Yes, it is.
It was really interestinglooking back on my journey
because I knew this biggermission.
I knew the mission of of lettingpeople know it's okay that they
have these feelings and lettingpeople know that it's okay if
you do have to perform as what Icall a high-functioning
depressed person, where you dohave that persona of
(12:00):
everything's okay, life isgreat, but on the inside, it's
not okay.
But I never had the chance todive into that myself, so that
process happened while I wasblogging.
That process happened of I nowput myself in this position
where I have to be this guidefor other people.
but what's my story?
(12:21):
Why do I feel that this isimportant?
It wasn't until I startedwriting those blogs that I
realized that my depressionstarted as early as the age of
seven, which to me felt unreal.
I knew we have the angstyteenage hormones and all that
other stuff, but age seven and IIt all started because we moved
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at that age.
And we moved from a cul-de-sacfull of kids to out in the
country, a mile, if not more,from the next child.
And we lived on a highway, so itwasn't like I could just walk
there.
So it was really an interestingjourney, just figuring myself
out as I was putting myself outthere at the same time.
SPEAKER_01 (13:03):
That is incredible, the fact that you were able to
reflect and dig back and go backto that child, the
seven-year-old you, where yourworld had changed.
And that's a big shift.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
Yes.
I didn't know if I reallybelieved in mental health in
such a young age, honestly.
The typical adult, right, islike, what do children have to
worry about?
They don't have bills.
They don't have to take care ofthemselves, all these things,
right?
And I never had that.
I wasn't from a broken home.
My family was still intact.
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My parents were in a lovingrelationship.
I never had, say, hardships ortraumas that I went through.
But it started from that lackof, I guess, socialization when
I moved.
And we moved to the countrywhere we started accumulating
animals.
And therefore, animals didbecome my family and my friend
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group.
So it was very interestinglooking back on how these all
tied into each other.
SPEAKER_01 (14:06):
Yeah, I can imagine.
So tell me what happened whenyou started accumulating the
animals.
What was that about?
What is it that shifted for you?
And what changed for you at thatpoint?
Had you had animals or petsbefore that?
SPEAKER_02 (14:22):
Before we moved, my parents had two dogs.
My dad was the dog person and mymom is a cat person.
But my dad had two dogs.
My mom had two cats.
We also had...
some ducks, and I think one ortwo chickens.
And I had a rabbit very, verybriefly during that first home,
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that first place.
And so I knew I had a connectionwith dogs.
My very first dog was my dad'sdog, Pua, who was a Doberman
Pinscher.
My dog after we moved to thefarm was a German Shepherd mix.
But Pua was a Doberman Pinscher,and she had a very calm
personality.
wise spirit.
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She was very, if you look at thebreed, they're very majestic and
regal, very statuesque, I say.
But her demeanor was so calm andso zen and so happy and loving.
And she actually became my nannydog because she and Brandy, who
was a Britney Spaniel, werethere before I was born.
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And so when I came into thefamily, Pua just took me into
her arms and just made me herbaby.
Like, she would protect me nomatter what.
And so growing up from zero toseven before he moved, she was
my biggest support system.
I was afraid of our other dogbecause...
If anyone knows Spaniels, youknow that they have a ton of
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energy, right?
They're always bouncing off thewalls.
And as a little person, thatscared the poop out of me.
So Pua would sense my fear andjust put herself in between me
and Brandy and just be thatshield for me like, okay, I got
you.
So from the very, verybeginning, I knew I had this
connection with animals.
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I knew I could trust them.
And then when we moved, my momhad it set on her heart to have
a little farm.
Even though she's the cityslicker and my dad's more of the
country person, my mom wantedthis little farm.
SPEAKER_01 (16:21):
Amazing.
And she had her heart set onthis and that's it.
It was going to happen.
SPEAKER_02 (16:27):
Yes, it was going to happen.
To this day, she's obsessed withcows.
Everything in her house is cows,but we've never had a cow
because she loves them too muchto have them as an entity to the
farm.
That is so funny.
Yeah.
So we ended up, like I said,accumulating all these animals.
(16:50):
We started out with littlethings.
We had the cats from the move.
We didn't bring the dogs withus, which is also kind of this
confused child, like, where didmy friends go?
I now have nothing.
Come to find out that they wereat just that point in their life
where the move wasn't going tobe very good for them.
But I didn't learn that until Iwas a teenager.
UNKNOWN (17:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (17:11):
So we started accumulating.
We had chickens, rabbits.
We ended up getting twominiature horses and a large
horse later on.
Goats, like the works, right?
And a couple of years into ourmove, we ended up being gifted.
A friend of the family adopted adog for us because she knew we
needed another dog.
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The German Shepherd mix,Chelsea.
And Chelsea quickly became thatfiller for where I was missing
Pua.
She's definitely a differenttype of dog.
She was more high energy and shewas a lot younger too.
So that played into it as well.
But Chelsea became my bestfriend when there was no other
kids around to play with.
And I didn't have a whole lot offriends at school.
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So I'd come home.
And I'd sit with Chelsea on theporch and she became that zen
spot for me.
I'd sing to her.
I'd tell her about my day, allthe things.
And then as I grew up, the farmbecame my responsibility.
I would feed the animals beforeschool and after school.
And just with that interactionalone, being their primary
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caretaker, they were my family.
It became all of them.
I'd tell Slick, my littleminiature horse, how my day went
and he'd come over and give mekisses.
And I'd I'd ask him how his daywith his favorite cat, Sadie,
went.
All these things.
So my connection with animalshas always been like there.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_01 (18:36):
it's lovely.
And, you know, it's just lovelyto be able to have that as an
experience because not manypeople do.
And even if they're naturallywired to be near animals, our
kind of life it doesn't allow itif that makes sense
SPEAKER_02 (18:52):
yes my my partner right now my boyfriend he's
never had animals growing up buthe's always loved them and as an
adult he's the one that all thefriends call the house and dog
sit and so since we've beentogether he now has our two fur
babies and yeah he's just sohappy you would have never known
that he never had thisexperience as a child
SPEAKER_01 (19:12):
it's so important that children are allowed to
explore the world with animalsand I Yes.
(19:39):
A lot of what you have beentalking about in all of your
memories of the dogs and theanimals, you've touched on this.
You've said, oh, you know,so-and-so had a really zen kind
of vibe and the energy wasthere.
And unless we humanize them, wedon't really allow them to be
who they are.
And I think that's one of ourflaws.
SPEAKER_02 (20:01):
Yes, I love that idea.
I've never actually put it sosuccinctly.
So thank you.
But it's true.
I mean, if I didn't look at themas my friends and really try to
get to know them outside ofyou're just a different species.
You're an animal, not a human.
And therefore, we're on adifferent level.
We're all, I feel, on the samelevel.
(20:22):
We're all on this planet.
We all incarnate as something.
Some people are human and somepeople are animals.
And those souls are just asintricate as we are.
They just communicate in adifferent way.
They live in a different way.
But they're the same thing.
inside.
I don't know how I'm able to saythis succinctly as you are, but
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they have souls.
They are very soul and spiritualbeings.
SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
Yeah, no, I get that.
And this is actually really,really important because you've
found that in your journey, asyou were going through your own
spiritual awakening, yourdifferent growth, almost like
your aha moments, that you wereable to connect spiritually with
your pets.
SPEAKER_02 (21:06):
Yes, yes.
So going through the bloggingand learning Thank you so much.
(21:30):
I was depressed.
(22:00):
And he would really feel intowhat I needed and mirror that in
a way that was purposeful andmeaningful in my life.
And each one of these animalshave done so.
I now have two dogs.
I have Ryder and Lena.
And Lena is the completeopposite of Ryder.
So now I feel as if my mentalhealth is in a plateau.
(22:21):
We've talked about this beforewhere mental health is that
strange thing where it'sfluctuating all the time and you
have highs and lows.
But for the most part, my mentalhealth is stable.
My emotional health is stable.
And now that that's so, we haveadopted a dog who's very mellow
and zen.
And she teaches me about justpatience.
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The art of receiving is what I'mreally learning from her, just
waiting for the things.
The universe always has yourback.
She's never going to go withouta meal.
She's never going to go withoutgoing outside.
She'll just wait for it.
Oh, it's that time?
Great.
I received that gratefully.
It's that time to go out.
So there's just so many lessonsthat I've learned from each and
every animal along the way.
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And it wasn't until I gotinvolved with the brand Dog is
Good and my mentor Gila, whowrote the book Fur-Covered
Wisdom, kind of about herjourney with mental health and
how her dog Bolo has helped herout of that.
But she talks about dogisms,which are all the lessons that
you've learned from dog or thatshe personally has learned from
her dog.
(23:24):
And after looking at all theaspects, like Yes, dogs teach us
unconditional love.
Yes, dogs teach us loyalty, butreally breaking down how they
live their life and applyingthat to how we live our life.
It's amazing to see how manylessons that you can really
learn from these beings becausethey're also spirits that are
(23:45):
walking this earth and they haveto learn how to be of the world
that we're in also.
So it's been fascinating.
I love them.
SPEAKER_01 (23:54):
Yeah, absolutely.
You know that when you talkabout the fact that when you
weren't feeling like you couldperform, you know, show up, that
it's okay because Ryder wasthere to turn it around.
To me, it sounds almost like wasthere as a reminder that
actually go back to basicsbecause the simple things are
(24:15):
actually what you need to remindyou that you're human.
And that's a significant lessonfor all of us.
SPEAKER_02 (24:20):
Yes, absolutely.
Go to the bathroom when you wakeup.
Feed yourself.
Get a drink of water.
Yes, these are very, veryelementary needs that all souls
on this earth need.
And he was definitely aconstant, tangible reminder of
get outside.
Fuel your soul.
(24:41):
I call it photosynthesize.
Get your sun rays, your vitaminD in.
And feed yourself.
Drink water.
Be in the moment.
Because what I learnedthroughout this process, too, is
that mental health is aboutliving in the past or the
future.
It's never about living in thepresent, where my depression
(25:02):
stemmed from what I felt werepast failures.
But now I know nothing is ever afailure.
And then anxiety that I felt,writers helped me with my social
anxiety.
I used to never want to gooutside and walk him for fear of
running into other people.
And He's helping me with thatbecause he's cute.
(25:22):
And people who are dog loverswould be like, oh my gosh,
what's your dog's name?
Tell me about him, blah, blah,blah.
And it was just this naturalicebreaker that I was able to
just get over my fear.
And okay, I know how to talkabout Ryder.
Ryder is cute.
We can bond on this.
This person's not going to harmme, not going to whatever.
And so this reminder constantlyof staying in the present.
(25:46):
What do you need right now?
You need to eat.
What do you need right now?
You need to get out.
It's amazing.
They're amazing creatures.
SPEAKER_01 (25:52):
Absolutely.
Like you said, mental health isthis up and down fluctuating
journey from day to day, frommoment to moment.
And developing the tool sets onhow to do that and deal with it
or do whatever needs to happenin that moment is so important.
But when you now reflect on yourdepression, because you've
(26:13):
mentioned that there was asignificant change in your life
when you were seven.
What were the other factors thatcame up for you when you were
dealing with it or really livingin, I want to say the depth of
it, but I don't know if thatwould be the right way to term
it, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_02 (26:31):
Yeah, I think so.
So the significant point was themoving at seven.
And then I feel from that pointon, it was the normal stressors
of going to school, trying tomake friends, trying to fit in
all these things as a child andnot knowing how to express
myself fully.
I think Brene Brown puts this asbest as I can imagine putting
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it.
She talks about the differenceof fitting in and belonging.
Fitting in is about trying to dothe things to get accepted,
trying to find your place byassimilating.
We are all trying to fit in,which is crazy, and therefore
we're all not being our fullselves.
Whereas belonging is whereyou're fully accepted for who
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you are, whether you're similaror different from somebody else,
you find a place in a communitywhere they just love you for who
you are.
And so I was battling this, I'malways being somebody else and I
never fit in.
And so I had these depressivefeelings and then I started to
become depressed over mydepression because I look around
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and I say, you have a good life.
You have a family that lovesyou.
You're going to a good school,this, this, this, and the other,
right?
And I never had some big traumato blame it on.
So that's another reason why I'ma believer.
And it being a chemicalimbalance because there really
wasn't a reason for me to bedepressed.
(28:05):
And then I held on to thosethroughout school through
leaving the home and trying toadult.
And then at 20, my dad passed.
My dad and I were closest.
(28:45):
where I ignored grieving.
I thought I was grieving becauseI felt sad.
I'd cry.
I'd allow myself all thesethings, but I wasn't really
grieving.
I was really focusing on how mymom was handling the situation
or how my sister was handlingthe situation.
So say like five years down theroad, I finally allow myself to
grieve my father's deathproperly.
And then I get into toxicrelationships, this, that, and
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the other, and was basicallyoppressed and due to those
relationships I was in.
I dabble in astrology now, andit's really interesting to find
out that my son is in theseventh house of relationships,
which just means that I need tomaster the art of finding myself
and being true to my identitywithin the relationships I have.
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So my whole 20s was just losingmyself in relationship after
relationship after relationship,not finding my place.
And so it wasn't until my late20s where I realized I was in a
relationship I thought washealthy because we weren't
bashing heads.
We weren't abusing each othermentally, physically,
emotionally, all the things.
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It seemed safe.
I had a good job.
I had Ryder at that time.
I had all the things that Ithought I needed, and I still
had those depressed feelings.
And it was that moment when Iwas like, something needs to
change.
I have nothing else to blame iton.
I don't want to say I'm over mydad's death because I don't
think you're ever really overit, but I've healed from the
(30:13):
grief.
You know, I had everything and Istill felt these feelings.
And I turned to my supposed tobe husband and I said, this is
how I'm feeling.
I have no excuses to blamedepression on anymore and I
still have it.
I need help.
And I got the response of, whydon't you just be happy?
(30:35):
So I took that advice and I wentand found myself help.
But it was just like thisconstant lack of responsibility
on myself, I think, because Ijust let it happen and blamed it
on my surroundings instead ofowning myself and saying, why do
you really feel depressed?
(30:57):
What in your being needs tochange for you to feel better?
joy, to feel meaning, to feelpurpose, to feel accepting of
yourself.
That was basically the thing itwas.
I never accepted myself fully.
And so this whole journey hasled me to this point where I've
dealt with depression, and nowI'm coming into more of the
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self-growth and spiritual sideof things, which I believe
through this whole process, I'vebeen extremely spiritual, but I
didn't know what to call it.
Yeah.
That's how I've got here.
And I feel like the grief andthe toxic relationships were the
biggest players in my mentalhealth.
SPEAKER_01 (31:36):
I'm really sorry about your dad.
Thank you.
Everything you've said is so...
What I'm hearing from you is Ifeel like you've just taken me
on a roller coaster.
My bad.
Yeah.
No, but while you're speaking,you can hear what was happening
because you're showing upeverywhere as essentially not
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you.
And that is so hard to keep upwith.
It's the hardest thing to do.
SPEAKER_02 (32:06):
Yes, now that I'm in my spiritual awakening and
however you want to call it.
Yeah, whatever we call it.
(32:26):
And now that I'm exploring more,that's why I'm like a huge
proponent to growth andself-discovery because
everyone's made different.
Everyone is completelydifferent.
So once you truly know what ismade for you, what things you're
supposed to be working on thislifetime, what your talents and
desires are as a person, justdiscovering some tiny little
(32:48):
things like my life path numberin numerology, eye-opening to
what What I'm supposed to bedoing here.
And now I have a purpose.
Now I have meaning.
And now I can move forward.
And I feel less like, who am I?
How have I lost myself in allthese relationships?
How have I done all these thingsto this point?
And I still can't tell somebody.
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What my hobby is, what I do forfun, who I am.
Like there was a point in mylife, somebody asked me, who are
you?
And I say, my name's Kalia.
That's the only thing I'mcertain of right now.
How are you?
How let's throw back at you.
What, who are you?
What's your
SPEAKER_01 (33:27):
name?
This is such, oh gosh, so much.
This is where I'd like to kindof ask you a little more about
your Hawaiian heritage, because,you know, this is another area,
again, that we've touched on,we've spoken about.
And you know that I am, myparents were immigrants and I am
first generation child of Indianparents.
(33:47):
So culture and heritage, havingthat connection to it,
understanding it is soimportant.
And yet you have that as onelayer of your life experience.
And then you also talk aboutnumerology and astrology and all
of the, you know, the tarot andthis whole other world of, I
(34:11):
guess, if we call it woo-woo,because that seems to be the
technical term for thisconversation, at least.
But I'm there.
So, you know, tell me a littlebit more about your Hawaiian
heritage and what happenedthere.
Because when you mentioned thatwhen your dad passed away, he
was your main connection to thatworld, to that part of you.
SPEAKER_02 (34:31):
Yeah.
So that, like you said, Thankyou so much.
So my dad gives me my Hawaiianheritage at the simplest form.
I call myself Hawaiian andwhite, but really my dad in true
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Hawaiian fashion is a mixing potof all the Asian, all the things
and like a little bit of Dutchin there.
So I think I have blood quantumfor Hawaiian, Chinese, Filipino,
Portuguese, a little bit ofPuerto Rican, which I found out
after my dad died because togain my my father's death
(35:14):
certificate, we had to find hisbirth certificate.
And he was born before Hawaiiwas a state, so it was harder to
track down.
But once we did, his motherclaimed on his birth
certificate, Puerto Rican.
We didn't even know that thatwas part of the mix.
So I'm like, well, maybe that'swhere I get my fiery, like...
(35:36):
fiery energy when I get mad.
So there's all of that.
But simply put, I just sayHawaiian on his side, and my mom
is Caucasian.
And of course, I grew up inWashington State, very country
setting where it's predominantlywhite.
So I automatically stand out.
However, I didn't know a Howthis really played on my life
(36:00):
until the last couple years, butthere were times when my mom
would pick me up from elementaryschool and people would ask her,
who are you?
What are you doing?
Why are you taking this child?
And it's like, I, of course, atthat point had no idea what
they're talking about.
And they'd be like, who is this?
This is my mom.
I didn't realize that she lookeddifferent from me.
She's just my mom.
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She's picking me up from school.
And then, you know, my dad wasreally adamant that we got to
know our heritage.
He put us into hula lessons assoon as we could find them
because for our area, we're hardto find unless we commuted like
three hours.
So when we are able to, he gotme into dance lessons.
I have been a Polynesian dancersince I was 11.
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And he did as much as he couldto try to incorporate the
culture into my sister and I'slife.
But there's been just likeinstances here and there
throughout my life of peopleasking me, you know, what are
you or what's your background?
What's your heritage?
What's your culture?
All these things.
And I would say Hawaiian andthey'd be really excited.
(37:04):
I'm like, oh, how long did youlive there?
And I would say, oh, I was bornand raised in Washington.
And then the conversation wouldjust die.
Like it'd be this awkward, oh,and the person would walk away
or something.
I'm like, wait a second.
Now you're not interested in meanymore?
There was this weird dynamic ofbecause I've never lived there,
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I don't have the Hawaiian bloodquantum anymore.
Like I'm not a significantHawaiian enough anymore.
There was even like in my 20s, Ifelt so bad.
I was working retail and thiscute little Hispanic woman came
in.
I'm talking like grandma,adorable Hispanic woman.
She walks right up to me.
And granted, we're also in atown that was predominantly
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Hispanic.
And she just, she just talksSpanish to me, just walks up to
me, strange person, startsspeaking Spanish and And I was
like, what do I do?
What do I do?
And I'm like, I'm sorry, I don'tspeak Spanish.
And she just gave me the meanestlook, just so angry and was
like, talks to Spanish again.
And I'm like, I'm so sorry, Idon't speak Spanish.
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And she ended up huffing it,like so angry, booking it out of
the store.
And I turned to my coworker andI'm like, I feel like I need a
t-shirt that says, I don't speakSpanish.
I'm Hawaiian.
I'm sorry because I justcompletely offended that
grandma.
Like she's probably walking outthinking this generation doesn't
want to speak their nativetongue.
Oh
SPEAKER_01 (38:31):
my gosh.
That's so painful.
It is.
I mean, hilarious.
But at the same time, I kind offeel like your t-shirt probably
should have said not Caucasianenough, not Hawaiian enough and
not Hispanic enough, by the way.
SPEAKER_02 (38:45):
Yes.
Like so many people have Yeah.
I've also come across people whoare predominantly not a fan of
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BIPOC community.
And then they find out that I'mthe quote, what right type of
brown, like I'm a US basedbrown, as in, you know, US
territory, Hawaii is now astate.
So then all of a sudden, theconversation flips and you're
like, oh, you're American.
That's cool.
Whatever, blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, so what if I wasthe wrong kind of brown?
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What if I was not?
And it's just these tiny littlethings.
It's taken a lot of shadow workand deep soul diving to find
peace with myself.
Because as I even was startingmy podcast in October last year,
I decided I felt really, reallycold.
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to make an episode about myname, just my name.
The one thing that is your mostsignificant identifier when you
meet somebody is your name.
My dad didn't have the besteducation system.
Back in that time, they werestill shunning away from
speaking Hawaiian in the homeand the school and stuff like
that.
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They were focusing on teachingEnglish.
So he didn't get a lot of thenative language of Hawaiian.
And when it comes to naming me,he knew he wanted to name me
Kalea, and he spelt itK-A-L-E-A, which in English
would be like, okay, Kalea.
But in Hawaiian, it's actuallypronounced Kalea, which has a
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whole other set of meanings, awhole other everything.
So just knowing that, coming toa Hawaiian gathering and saying
your name is Kalea, but ifsomebody saw the way it was
spelt and realized your name'snot Kalea, your name's Kalea,
That had a whole nother layer ofwho the hell am I?
And so now I'm going by an I,like in the last three years
(40:56):
online, all my stuff is spelledwith an I because my name, my
dad would hammer it home.
I named you Kalia.
Well, Kalia is spelledK-A-L-I-A.
And he would always tell me, ifyou went to Hawaii, you would
fit in perfect because everyonelooks like you.
I'm Hapa, which means half, orin this instance, you know, half
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Hawaiian, half white.
He's like, everyone's Hapa.
Everyone looks like you.
You'll be fine.
But when I try to blend in withpeople, I do okay until I start
speaking.
It's like, you look like you fitin.
You've got just enough brown,you know, or if it's over here,
you have just enough white,blah, blah, blah, whatever it
is.
Even in the Spanish community,you look like you fit in
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until...
Somebody tries to come to youand talk, where did you grow up?
What island are you from?
You know, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
And then they hear my voice andthey realize that I'm not
connected to a place where theyassociate with.
I'm completely isolated.
So it's like this whole dynamicof how do I be okay with that?
And it's been this few yearjourney of just learning.
(42:02):
I'm perfect the way I am.
And there's so many benefits tothe fact that I can relate to
all these different worlds.
I can relate to the Hawaiians.
I can relate to the Caucasians.
I can bring together whatevermixture of heritage and culture
that I want is perfect for me.
And so it's been a ride.
It's been a ride for real.
SPEAKER_01 (42:24):
You know what?
It definitely sounds like it,but it sounds more like other
people have a stronger affinityand a need to box you up because
it makes them feel better, youknow?
Yeah.
And when it comes to your name,I'm so glad you mentioned that
because that's actually one ofmy favorite episodes because
it's something that really hitshome with me because I have a
(42:46):
short four letter name that hasSanskrit origins.
But actually in India, you know,it's a name that is specific to
certain regions, certainlanguages, certain cultures and
backgrounds.
And yet at the same time, it's avery strong Russian name and
it's four letters.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (43:26):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_01 (43:28):
Yes.
Yeah.
I have a confession.
I've said it now.
I love that.
SPEAKER_02 (43:34):
Thank you for confessing.
That's so juicy.
It's like you're one identifierwhen people meet you.
What's your name is usually thefirst thing.
And if you're confused at anypoint at what your even name is,
how am I even going to go intothe fact of like, what kind of
person am I?
SPEAKER_01 (43:53):
Oh, gosh.
It's so tough.
So tough.
What's in a name?
Yeah, we could go Shakespeare,right?
Yes.
So I think what comes up for meis you've spoken about the kind
of heritage thing.
the mix, the being able to bewho you are, but in different
places and unearthing anddiscovering who you are.
(44:15):
And yet when it comes to,especially with dogs, we kind of
celebrate crossbreeding.
We celebrate the, you know, andyet the same kind of generosity
or kind of human acceptance isnot afforded to people.
And that seems quite sad.
SPEAKER_02 (44:34):
Oh my gosh, that's so true.
Dogs have made this stellartransition from the backyard on
a, you know, a chain on a poleor whatever you have it to
inside the home and now to inthe bed and to wherever we want
to take them.
And it's so true to see thatevolution with mutts as well.
(44:54):
Mutts used to be the breednobody wanted.
Like we don't even know whatthis is.
We don't want it, right?
And I pride myself because I douse a lot of dog lingo in my
promotions, day-to-day life,whatever you want to have it.
I call myself a mixed breedbecause really, like I said, I
don't know all the things thateven made up my father.
So how am I supposed to knowwhat makes up me?
But with this evolution, of likethe designer breeds.
(45:18):
Now we have the golden doodlesand like how huge that they've
become.
They're a mutt.
They're two different purebredanimals making one new designer
breed.
And sooner or later down theroad, I mean, really everyone's
going to be a mutt.
I'm hoping that we all become aninclusive community and we all
(45:39):
start co-mingling, but like Thedesigner breed in the dog world
has made leaps, bounds, andstrides in the fact that we're
more valuable if we take theassets that we want from each
other and build a cohesive unitthat celebrates all the aspects.
All the aspects.
We love golden doodles becausethey're friendly like a golden
(46:01):
retriever, cute and manageable,and hyperallergenic like a
poodle.
Why can't we be like that withall the people?
If I look at myself and I say...
I love the fact that I have darkbrown hair and brown eyes, but I
also love the fact that mashedpotatoes are possibly the best
food on the planet.
I can embrace every aspect ofmyself and know that I'm perfect
(46:23):
and I'm more valuable because Ihave all these other experiences
in my life.
SPEAKER_01 (46:28):
I love that.
I'm with you, by the way.
Mashed potatoes are...
anything potato man anythingpotato exactly it's like bring
it on oh I love that and so whatI like to ask guests at this
point is if you could share aquestion for the listeners it
(46:48):
could be any question that youhave faced asked yourself you
know what would you like to kindof leave out there
SPEAKER_02 (46:55):
Oh, man.
So I'm going to cheat since I'malso a podcaster and I have a
few closing questions that I usefor my podcast.
My new thing right now is askingpeople what lights you up.
Because if you really get to theroot of things and think about
what makes you happy, that'swhat the world needs.
The world doesn't need anotheraccountant or dog walker or all
(47:19):
these other things.
They need people who are simplyjust doing what makes them
freaking happy.
If you're emulating that lightthat was given to only you, the
things that make you light up,then the whole world is going to
receive that light and warmth.
Nobody's going to ask, well, howdid you get there?
What are you doing to do it?
They're just going to know thatyou're living in your complete
(47:42):
happy state.
So what lights you up?
Dogs light me up, but let's getdeeper than that.
I like also asking the sevenwhys to unfold the depths of
things.
So why do dogs light you up?
Because they're awesomecompanions.
Why are they awesome companions?
And just keep unfolding all theway down to the end of what
truly lights you up and why.
(48:03):
If you're not doing it, do it.
Do the thing is the
SPEAKER_01 (48:08):
most important part.
Thank you so much.
I love that.
And actually the asking the whyand then questioning with a
because.
It's my favorite thing to do.
SPEAKER_02 (48:16):
Yay.
Awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (48:19):
So where can people find you?
SPEAKER_02 (48:22):
Sure.
So I'm on Instagram at thespiritual dog mom, and I just
opened up a new community calledluminaries, which is a companion
community to the podcast, butyou don't have to be a podcast
listener.
And it's at luminaries dot lightabove solitude.com.
SPEAKER_01 (48:41):
I hope you enjoyed that thank you for joining me
for this episode of EternalParadigm join me next time
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