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May 14, 2025 26 mins

Or: Spainio and UKette.


After their second and third place finishes in 2022, the perception of The UK and Spain at Eurovision changed from disappointment to excitement. With just two songs, these countries had turned their fortunes around and were expected to make a return to the top of the leaderboard- somewhere neither had been in decades.


But in the years after Chanel and Sam Ryder took to the stage, no Spanish or British entries have managed to come close to replicating those outstanding results. Fans have been left wondering, in the words of Remember Monday, "what the hell just happened?" After all, Spain and the UK have two of the biggest economies and music industries of participating Eurovision countries. They should be untouchable!

To get to the bottom of this, Gabe Milne (ESC Gabe) and Luis Mesa (Euromovidas) join me on this final regular episode of the season. Both are Eurovision fans and journalists who have seen what their country is capable of on the Eurovision stage and are left wondering why that quality is not sent every single year! We discuss what it meant for them to see their flags at the top of the scoreboard, and how they see a way out for two of the biggest Eurovision countries.


Theme Song: Max Dary

Outro Song: JOJ BOUK

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