93. Sleep, Peanut Butter, Sam Elliott

Phil & Jake rank the very necessary activity of sleep, the very American foodstuff called peanut butter, and the very mustachioed actor Sam Elliott on the List of Every Damn Thing.

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SHOW NOTES:

• For the second time in recent episodes we discuss the songs of Chubby Checker (both "The Limbo Rock" and “Let’s Twist Again”).
• I Know What You Did Last Summer was a post-Scream 90s horror movie. The title of the sequel was I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, which Phil doesn't approve of.
• The Karina Longsworth podcast You Must Remember This had a recent episode about Flashdance & Risky Business as part of the current season which is about sex in movies (which used to be a thing). 
• Pittsburgh is a city in western Pennsylvania where the Allegheny & the Monongahela rivers meet to form the Ohio.
• Phil claims that old Popeye cartoons are much more Olive Oyl and Bluto-centric than you'd think. Some of the better Popeye cartoons aren't streamable because WB's not crazy about the themes. Phil's favorite is "Can You Take It" in which Olive gets a job as a nurse for an underground fight club.
• Thimble Theater was the original comic strip that Popeye sprung out of. 
• Freddy Krueger was a villain in horror movies in the 80s who attacks people in their dreams. Phil has only ever seen the third Nightmare on Elm Street, where Laurence Fishburne is an orderly at a hospital for traumatized kids and the kids flip the script on Freddy and defeat him.
• Phil mentions a French scientist who thought sleep was a distraction, and caused himself health problems by staying awake for long periods. This may have been something his parents told him as a kid to get him to sleep. He doesn't know why the scientist was French either.
• We talk about “sack hounds” and “sack artists”. Phil had always understood these to mean lazy people who could sleep wherever. After looking it up on WW2-era slang websites it seems like a “sack artist” is more like a womanizer whereas a “sack hound” is someone who tries to sleep.
• Beetle Bailey is a simple, gag-based comic strip with a military setting.
• Peanut butter is traditionally made of peanuts, smashed. That's why Phil's idea of selling roasted peanuts as extremely crunchy peanut butter makes sense. To Phil.
• Peanut oil is the oil that you can squeeze out of peanuts. In peanut butter jars, it separates and has to be stirred back into the peanut butter. What? You think it'd

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
My neighbors were having a party once, and they

(00:01):
were Okay. Dancing the limborock and partying in the
backyard. And I looked out mywindow at them, like, I pulled
my drapes to the side, and Ilooked at them, and I was, like,
jealous that they were having aparty and that they didn't
invite me and that they weredancing to limbo rock. They were
partying.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
So lim the limbo rock? I've never heard of the
limbo rock.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah. The limbo rock is a song I feel like if people
are dancing a limbo, that's thesong that they're listening to.
Like, it's a song it's called ittells you you have to get low.
It tells you, you know, it itJack be nimble, Jack be quick,
Jack goes over under the limbostick. It tells you the rules of
the game.
Okay. It's not a narrative. It'snot it doesn't tell you where
the song was graded. It doesn'ttell you that that it's the
latest, it's the greatest. Itassumes you already know what

(00:40):
the limbo is.
I think it was, like, alreadysome kind of a fad before this
song. Although, I kinda thinkthat I don't really understand
much about limbo. I do knowthat, like, it was it's it's
sort

Speaker 2 (00:50):
of a place where you don't wanna be.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah. It's a place where you don't wanna be, where,
the you have to wait for the theeternal judgment, so you don't
wanna do that. It's funny thatthey they need to dance after
that.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
There must be something more going on.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
When you're really truly limboing, you're floating
in the space between, like,falling and and and standing.
You know what I mean? Yeah. YouLike,

Speaker 1 (01:10):
You're neither here nor there.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah. And I think that's it. If you if you're
doing it right. You know?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah. I suppose so. I just it's one of those things
where you can't tell when youlisten to a song that's about a
dance. Like, are they inventingthis dance? Or are they, like
because they're telling you todo the dance like you already
know, but that's the the firsttime anyone ever mentioned it.
And I feel like I think limbokind of existed. Like, you know
the song mashed potato time? Ilike the song. It's a great
song.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
But it assumes that you already know how to do the
dance, because they don't tellyou how to do it. You know?
Like, the Humpty dance, theytell you, he tells you, like,
here's the here are the steps totake to do to do the Humpty
dance. You you know, mashedpotato time doesn't do that. So,

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh, really? That's a shame.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Limbo tells you you have to go under the stick. I
think the most important thingis that they tell you that it's
the latest and the greatest.Like, if they if they tell you
street. Or if they tell you,like, everybody's doing this
brand new it's a brand newdance. Everybody's doing it.
That's why a song like, Let'sTwist Again, I it kinda leaves
me cold because it's, like,again, like, I wanna This

Speaker 2 (02:06):
is last year's song.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah. I don't wanna hear last

Speaker 2 (02:09):
year's song. I wanna hear it twice. Isn't called the
twist. The dance is called thetwist again.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
No, man.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I mean, it's got the exact same steps as the twist,
but it's But you It's the twistagain.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
But we did it last summer. It's like, I wanna know
what you're doing this summer.Like, you know, this goes back
to a complaint I've had for manyyears over the plot the title of
the movie, I Know What You DidLast Summer and its sequel.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
If you

Speaker 1 (02:28):
go that hard on the title, it's really hard to make
the sequel, like, stay thatgood. Like, how do you keep
that? You know? And it's like, Istill know what you did last
summer is not a good title, butthen what are you gonna do?
They're trapped.
They're victims of their ownsuccess.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know? That's so I know what you're doing this
summer.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah. Oh, I I I how about this one? I know what
you're going to do next summer.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I know what we're gonna do is start the podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Oh, nice. Nice. Hello, and welcome to Every Damn
Thing. It's a podcast where werank everything. I'm Phil.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
And I'm Jake, and we're here to guide you through
the list of everything.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Each episode, we take items and tell you where they
rank on the list of everything.The list can be viewed by going
to every damn thing thing.net.You can find the link in the
show notes.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
So we've known each other a long time. Once while
asleep If

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I recall correctly, our eyes were closed and we were
snoring.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's right. Honkshu, honkshu, and so on.
Anyway, we started dreaming andMorpheus, the lord of dreams
appeared and showed us a rankedlist of everything.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
We memorized the list, of course, but then we
were jostled awake. Honkshu.Byformius, the lord of not
dreams. Honk Shu. Byformias, thelord of not dreams.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Honk who?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
And the sudden transition from the land of
dreaming to the waking worldmade us forget the list.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
We can only access the list little bits at a time
through a scientific processcalled honk shooting the shit.
That's how, with the help of ourfriends and listeners, we
reassemble the list of everydamn thing.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
The list is now at 292 items with Dolly Parton at
the top and transphobia at thebottom. Gary Busey and Jeggings
are in the middle of the list togive you some idea of what it
is. Now, again, you're alwaysasking, are we are you sure we
mean Gary Gusey and not verygoosey? Yes.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Barry, we know you're out there. You we know you keep
on getting worried that we'retalking about you.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
You're mishearing us.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
But, no, Barry. We're talking about Gary.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Also, talking about leggings. We're not talking
about jeans that look likeleggings. They're actually
leggings, but are made toresemble jeans.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
So if you wanna look at the complete list, go to
every damn thing dot net. Youcan find a link for that in the
show notes. Mhmm. And it's meand you, Phil. What's up, man?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh, well, one thing was, I listened to this podcast.
Right? And it was a Okay. CarinaLongsworth podcast about the
Hollywood stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh, I see.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
And she's talking about Flashdance, and she really
had a a spirited defense ofFlashdance. It's not the
greatest thing ever made, butmaybe we rank it too low. Maybe
we gotta, like, reconsider.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
We we could. I don't think that it was submitted for
re ranking, which is somethingwe'll get to at the end of the
episode.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah. So shout out to Karina Longsworth Yeah. Yeah.
And to the, the what's the nameof that podcast?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
You must remember this. She did a a Flashdance
after we did a Flashdanceepisode. So we're we're sort of
leading the conversationnationally.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I I was in Pittsburgh last night. And

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Saturday night? Steel Town Girl?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
It wasn't Saturday night, but that song Maniac
started playing, where it was,which is exciting to me.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
The whole town stops and everybody sings along to it.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah. We started dancing. No. The last time I was
in Pittsburgh, I also heard thatsong randomly, like, through no,
cause of my own.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
You think it was kismet?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah. It was kismet.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Now sleep That's right. Is an activity. Pardon me
if I'm wrong here. I think allanimals have have to have some
kind of sleep. Like, pretty muchthey all do.
You know, like, I I've neverseen a sleeping ant, but I know
that at night I don't see himaround, so they must be
sleeping. Like, for the mostpart, animals sleep. I know we
do. All mammals seem to sleep,although they seem sometimes

(05:38):
it's hard to catch themsleeping. Like, you never see a
sleeping mouse.
It'd be really cute, though. Youknow? But, like, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
If you owned mice, you might see that.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah. At night, they probably sleep soundly. Right? I
my cat is asleep all the time. Iit's like it sleeps in a planter
box in the backyard.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Bears sleep, like, all all winter and whatnot, and
I think at night too.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Now does that count as sleeping? Because they it's,
like, extra hard.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah. I think it counts as sleeping. Okay. I mean

Speaker 1 (06:00):
What about if you do some kind of guided meditation?
Does that count as sleeping?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I think so. Yeah. If you, like, have traveled into
the land of nod

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Dream life. I think even, like, nodding off, like,
if you're high on heroin.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh, you fall asleep at the wheel and you crash the
car. So that's a dangerous

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I mean, that for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
And and

Speaker 2 (06:18):
If you're not re like, if you're not aware of the
the your, surroundings Uh-huh.And your eyes are closed and
you're laying down, that'sprobably sleep. Sleepwalking, I
suppose, counts too. That's abad kind of sleep. And in that
case, I don't think your eyes

Speaker 1 (06:29):
are closed. Funny. You do that. It's like, you
know, you're walking around.That might be you might be
having an adventure.
You might, like You might. Go tothe store.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
You might, like

Speaker 1 (06:37):
construction site and you walk across. You ever see
the cartoon where Olive Oil is,gets sleepwalking? And she's
walking you got people You

Speaker 2 (06:44):
sure she's not hypnotized?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah. A 100%, man. People forget here's something
people forget about. People sothen maybe it was actually, but
what I'm saying, when peopleforget about these Popeye
cartoons, these are 3 handedcartoons. This is the stars are
Popeye and Bluto in olive oil.
It's not it's a Popeye is, like,the main character, but there's
a lot of stuff that they put alot of love into Bluto and Olive
Oil doing stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
And they're really well designed characters.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I mean I mean, the Popeye's the Popeye cartoon at
first wasn't called Popeye. Itwas called, like, I forget
something.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Thimble Thimble Thimble Thimble Thimble Thimble

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Thimble Theatre. It was it was about a cast of
characters, and he just turnedout to

Speaker 1 (07:16):
be the most popular ones we started

Speaker 2 (07:18):
focusing on him.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's why he's on our list so high. So He's eye
popped. Yeah. When he wassquinting so hard. So here's the
thing about sleeping.
You need to sleep.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
And most people don't get enough sleep. One thing the
problem is Freddy Kruegerattacks you when you're asleep,
which you can't do if you're notasleep, but staying up all night
can be really dangerous too.There's problems with sleep
deprivation. I remember readingabout a French scientist. This
would have been like, he's aenlightenment era thinker.
Right?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
He had decided that sleep was nothing but a
distraction, and he was gonnanot sleep at all. But it had
disastrous results. It didn'twork. Right? Like, if you really
wanna torture somebody or punishthem, one thing you do is you
deny them sleep because it,like, it really wrecks you.
You know, that's they're doingthat to people in Guantanamo
right now, I bet. So you need tohave it, but your body can live
without it, but your mind can't.Right? So I think that like

(08:04):
sleep is an absolute necessity,and it feels so nice to sink
into a soft bed. Now I like tosleep in the morning more than I
like to sleep in the evening.
I'll I'll sleep in late. Right.On the weekend, I'll sleep in as
late

Speaker 2 (08:15):
as that. Sense.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
A real sat count.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Say that word again. I like that word. I like that
phrase. I don't

Speaker 1 (08:18):
know what you

Speaker 2 (08:19):
mean. A sack hound.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Sack hound. It's

Speaker 2 (08:21):
an army phrase. Right?

Speaker 1 (08:22):
The Englishman

Speaker 2 (08:22):
is always trying to get sleep.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
You're always trying to catch these. Like, you know
how you see Bido Bailey andhe'll be, like, asleep, but,
like, he Yeah. He the sargethinks he's standing there, but
in fact, he's, a there's z'scoming out of him or something
like that. Right? Yeah.
So he just trying to catch hisz's.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I was actually thinking about sat counts
recently, and I was thinkingabout army and, like, how in the
army you're deprived of sleep,especially at the beginning,
during boot camp to break youdown mentally

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
So that you can turn into a killing machine or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah. And how boot camp notwithstanding, just like
in in war or whatever, how howmuch you must miss sleep. And,
you know, I could see BeetleBailey or anybody trying to,
like, catch as much sleep asthey can because that I mean,
really, it's important to it'slike it's presented as
something, like, shameful maybe,in Beatle Bailey, but, like, I I
recently have started learninghow to how to nap. I always had

(09:09):
trouble with napping beforemainly because my mind is
active. Every time I try to laydown to nap, I wouldn't have the
patience.
I'd think of something that Ishould or could be doing, and so
I just couldn't relax and fallasleep. I think with a little
bit of like meditation or sortof like not not maybe
meditation. Maybe just more likethose apps that help you help
you relax. I've learned to takenaps maybe just because I'm

(09:29):
getting older. And now I can doa little nap.
And if I haven't got enoughsleep, like, even 10 minutes,
which I don't think is quitecounts as sleep, but, like, the
rest,

Speaker 1 (09:38):
the amount of resting you do. I think every minute
counts. Okay. I I got somethingfor you. The the people called
in the army, like, Israel, WorldWar 2 era, There's something
called a sack artist, and a sackartist is a person he can sleep
while marching.
He can sleep, like, while thesergeant's telling him to do
something. He can he can sleepat any time. He has, like, no
and, like, I'm jealous of I Ihad low level insomnia for much

(09:59):
of my life. My my brain Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I can't have I can't drink caffeine after, say, like
noon, after lunchtime. It's justnot a good idea. Right? But I
think like, oh, if only youcould be like that, but then I'd
have no problem falling asleep,like, in the morning. Anytime
before noon, I can fall asleepjust fine.
It's anytime after that.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I kind of have that trouble too. Like, I like I I'm
gonna wake up at the same timeevery day, essentially. Oh,
yeah. If I woke up at 7 today,I'm probably gonna wake up at 7
tomorrow. And if I go to sleepat fucking if I woke up at 7
today but don't go to sleepuntil 1 or 2 or 3 today, I'm
probably still gonna wake up at7 tomorrow.
And and often when I wake up,the mind starts going, like, and
I just can't, like, I'll stillbe tired, but I can't go back to

(10:37):
sleep.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah. You'll be thinking like, oh, did I put
flash dance too high on thatlist? Do you know that like the
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I don't hey. I I was I was pushing for Flash Tance to
be even higher.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I mean Because because the actress, if not the,
you know that, like, at the inthe final scene when she does
the backspin, that's the samedancer that was in the street
that she watched. It's the sameperson doing the move. And, also

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
That the actress is by a Hey.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Hold on hold on a sec, Phil. Uh-huh. I'm sorry. I
have not listened to thatepisode of, You Must Remember
This Yet, and so I don't wantyou to spoil it for me.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
But we could talk about it next time.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
We'll talk about it next time. So I was thinking,
like, being deprived of sleep isa torture. Right? Like, it's
it's one of the roughest thingsto be deprived of. It breaks
people down.
It it destroys them. So I thinkit should be pretty high on our
list. Right? We have, like,these things.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
You could So I I

Speaker 1 (11:23):
you could have, like, sex taken away from you or
bicycles taken away from you,and you could, like, live a
life. You know what I mean?People do that to themselves
willingly. A lot of peoplearen't having sex or not riding
bicycles or they're not drinkingcoffee. Right?
So, like, we have these thingspretty high on our list, but
maybe sleep should be higherthan all of them and maybe
higher than Dolly Parton.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I understand that. I feel that, and I recognize, you
know, how important sleep is andhow, like, it's important to to
to get it. Like, I'm on tourright now, and it's a very busy
tour. It's got a big production.We've got very late nights and
and early mornings.
And I'm one of the people thathas to sort of be awake from
beginning to end, you know, orclose to it at least.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah. You appreciate your sleep.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's I've been out for, like, 4 weeks. And there's
pretty much every week there'sbeen, like, many days during the
week where I'm only getting 4 to5 hours of sleep. Sometimes less
than 4. Sometimes multiple days

Speaker 1 (12:12):
in a row. You look like a $1,000,000, man.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Oh, thanks. I don't feel like it. I'm pretty tired
right now. But, so I I Iappreciate that. I I get it, you
know.
But another way to think aboutit is, like, I recognize it's
necessity, but begrudginglybecause, like, what if we didn't
have to sleep? Like like, theconcept of sleep is great, but I
don't need if if I could if Icould choose not to sleep, if
sleep wasn't necessary

Speaker 1 (12:34):
You're like that French that French guy who, you
know, I think he, like, haddisastrous results. He really
messed himself up withoutsleeping.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
But if we could do away with the principle of
sleep, that would be good. Thenwe wouldn't then we wouldn't
have to I'm not I'm not againstresting.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I mean, that's like why amphetamines were existed.
That's like why but why the airforce was giving those to the
pilots. Right? Because Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
So it's good it's good to get sleep because you
need it, but it's not good toneed sleep. That's I guess
that's my point.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Oh, that's a good point. That's a good call. Okay.
I I I I see the point you'remaking here.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
So for me, I would, like, be, like, wait wait maybe
somewhere in the middle. Like,if to balance those two things
out

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Because the need for sleep is is punishing, and it
makes it difficult for you.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah. And also, like, if I could get more done, you
know, or do more things, youknow, like, if I didn't have to
sleep.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Would you wanna live a 24 hour life?

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well, if I did, I would try to do things that were
calming some of the time andrelaxing and enjoyable some of
the time. But, like, forexample, right now I've been
very busy juggling a bunch ofthings, and if I had all those
hours that I needed to sleep orif I wasn't tired from not
getting sleep. I don't know.It's kinda like a double edged
sword. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
We have some sleeping in here. Sleeping naked is on
our list.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah. Yeah. Where's that at?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
164. About halfway down the list, like you said.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
A little lower than halfway, actually. I I kinda
think it should be higherbecause sleeping naked is like
one small segment of allsleeping. Right? Right. It's not
really any better or worse.
It just seems like havingpajamas on is pretty nice. You
know what I mean? Like Yeah.Like, when because you wear that
hat with the tassel on it, andthen you get that candle with
the you know what I'm talkingabout? That candle holder.

(14:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
And you hear you hear a loud sound, you creep down,
and you know, and you're wearingslippers, of course.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
One problem with sleeping naked is is yeah. I
mean, it's it's it's to me, it'snot as good as sleeping with
wearing something. And alsosleeping naked.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
You wear a simple simple Yeah. Shift.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Something like that. Yeah. Also, if you're sleeping
naked and there's an earthquakeor something like that, then
then you're naked. You runaround naked in the
neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Oh, you run out the house, and you're like, help
help an earthquake. And itwasn't really an earthquake. It
was just the garbage truck goingby, and everyone's laughing at
you. Yeah. Because it happensevery week.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Alright. So then let's further

Speaker 2 (14:41):
go a little bit higher than that. So if we go up
to, like like, literally halfwayat the list as we mentioned, in
the intro is Gary Busey and JayGings.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
To me, like, somewhere in there would sort of
help balance my begrudgingnessof the sleep with the the the
fact that I respect that itshould be gotten.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Okay. Well, then I think it should go below
Popeye's chicken becausePopeye's chicken, although it's
about the pain and death of thechicken, it also is about the
joy of the person eating it.Where's the popcorn? Is number
137. So I

Speaker 2 (15:09):
So the I mean, the chicken the chicken has to go
into a permanent sleep, in orderto for you to have enjoy the
Popeye's chicken. I don't know.Now that you bring a Popeye's
chicken, I think that sleepshould go a little bit higher
Okay. Okay. Than the middle ofthe list.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, then let's look at goats. Goats are number 127.
They're beautiful animals. Haveyou ever seen a goat take a nap?
It's very peaceful.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
It could go up by goats, I think. Let's see.
Blade, the

Speaker 1 (15:32):
fictional one before he sleeps all day. He's a day
no. Wait. He sleeps at nightbecause he's a day walker.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I don't does he sleep at all?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
I kinda think he doesn't because he walks in the
day, and he does more vampirestuff at night. He's allowed to
walk in the day because he's I

Speaker 2 (15:45):
think burrow round blade is a is a good place to
put it because blade is, likeworks

Speaker 1 (15:48):
for me.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Is okay. Good.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah. But the kid

Speaker 2 (15:50):
He represents, like, the duality of it. You know?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
The the paradox to find the snow. Stalker. Yeah.
Yeah. So, let's put it rightbelow Blade though because sleep
doesn't have sunglasses andwhatnot.
So sleep, the activity goes inat number, 125.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
That

Speaker 2 (16:03):
that works. Dan Aykroyd to 126. Mhmm. Let's take
a break, and we'll come back andrank the next thing.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Okay. Welcome back to the show. We're gonna rank the
next thing. It's submitted by 2people, which means there's a
the streets are calling out forthis. People are asking, why
haven't you ranked this yet?
The topic is peanut butter. Nowpeanut butter is made by
grinding up peanuts. That's it.You can put other stuff in it.
You can get spicy peanut butter.
You can get chocolate peanutbutter. You can get

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Now do the oils in the peanut butter make it Yeah.
Oh, that's oh, really? I thoughtthat you had you had to add
something to it. I could bewrong. I didn't look into the
the bad aspect of it.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
There there are kinds of peanut butter that if you get
the all natural peanut butterand you look at the ingredients
in the back, it saysingredients, peanuts. And
sometimes it will say peanuts.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Oh, wow. That's great.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Right? That's cool. And and Yeah. Because they need
salt. If there's no salt But

Speaker 2 (16:48):
they don't add oil to it. They don't add something to
soften it up.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I guess this

Speaker 2 (16:51):
is my question.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
No. Oftentimes You

Speaker 2 (16:52):
can, but you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah. Traditionally, like the peanut butter you you
probably had when you were a kidis, like something like Jif, or
like if you eat Reese's peanutbutter cups or something like
that. And what they do with thatis, I think they take the peanut
oil out, because peanut oil isvaluable and can be used for
other things. Yeah. And thenthey use, like, a hydrogenated
oil that, is smooth.
That's why you don't need tostir it because it's solid at
room temperature, so it doesn'tit doesn't liquefy.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
When you're using, like, the peanut butter with
with oil and whatnot, and youget oil on your hands and stuff,
do you have, like, a jiff ragthat you can, like, use

Speaker 1 (17:21):
to wipe it off? Well, yeah. You gotta get a jiff rag.
Yeah. Of course.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh, by the way, so hold on. So I'm gonna read what
Stefan, wrote to us when hesubmitted this. Stefan says it's
super American. This is talkingabout peanut butter. Yeah.
No one else likes it. When Ifirst moved to the US, I thought
it was disgusting. It wasn'teven really sweet. It was even a
little salty and it clogged yourthroat and you could barely
swallow it. I didn't get it.
But after 10 years, I started tolike it and now I love it. The

(17:46):
same is true with my Colombiangirlfriend. She's been in the US
humble brag. She's been in theUS for 6 years. And like most
immigrants, she thought peanutbutter was disgusting, a
ridiculous food.
She didn't get it at all justlike me and most other Europeans
that I met. But now she alsoloves it. But see So I guess
it's an acquired taste.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
What here's the thing about it is Europeans will put
that hazelnut spread on things.So they they they it's not like
the concept is that foreign tothem because they use hazelnuts.
They have they know what ahazelnut is, and they use it,
like, whenever they get thechance. And they're putting it
on what's that spread that hasthe chocolate and hazelnut
together?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh, Nutella.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
So what I'm saying is Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
But peanut butter is a peanut butter is a specific
taste, and it's also the I mean,Nutella's like a sweet it's like
almost like a pudding almost orit's different. I can see that.
Like another example of somebodywho, is a friend of ours who,
who is not from America, whodoesn't know how to use peanut
butter. I think I've told maybetold this story before on the
podcast, but our friendAlastair, I was with him once in

(18:43):
in Europe, I think. And he wasputting, he's making a sandwich.
And I saw him put peanut butteron a sandwich and piece of
bread, and then he's English, bythe way. And then put mustard on
it. And I was like, what thefuck, dude? Like, you've you're
making a peanut butter andmustard sandwich? And he's like,
hey, man.
I'm English. I don't fucking getpeanut butter. It I like I don't

(19:04):
I don't I don't have rules aboutit, and I can do it whatever way
I want. And What do you he'sfree? I I I tasted a sandwich,
and it tasted fucking good, man.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It wasn't like it was not

Speaker 2 (19:12):
anything you're used to.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
My mother makes good. My mother makes a sandwich where
she has peanut butter and, likepickles. And Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I've heard of that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
It seems crazy to me. And, like, I I don't remember
her eating it when I was growingup, but, like, it's a thing
that, like, she'll have fromtime to time when I see her. And
I'm like, this is crazy to me,but it, like, you know what? She
she's just living by her ownrules. It's like she's free.
You can do what you want withpeanut butter. Now my son likes
peanut butter and honeysometimes. I like a peanut
butter and a traditional peanutbutter and a strawberry jam. I

(19:41):
also I prefer almond butter, theto to peanut butter. Mostly it's
because I'm a fancy boy and Ifrom California, and I like to
waste a lot of water, you know?
Yeah. So so I Yeah. I prefer tohave, I get almond butter
sometimes, but, it's

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I'm getting there with almond butter too.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah. Peanut butter is good stuff, and it's, like,
also the most you get the mostcalories per, like, tablespoon
of anything. So if

Speaker 2 (20:02):
you're starving

Speaker 1 (20:02):
or if you're going hiking or backpacking or
something like, it's

Speaker 2 (20:05):
very useful. Stuff like that. Yeah. For or just
for, like, having a snack forthe day. Yeah.
It's very useful if you throwsome jelly on it. It's really
good. I mean, it tastes fuckinggreat. Like, peanut butter
tastes great by itself.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I bet that's how Stefan how he cracked the code
was that he ate the peanutbutter, and and it was stuck in
his throat. That's why you needpeople put jelly on it.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
That's one problem with it though. I mean, is that
you gotta have something to washit down with. Yeah. Like, if
you're on a hike and you eat itand you don't have something to
wash it down with

Speaker 1 (20:29):
You might die.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
It's you you might you might choke. I mean, that's
why they make the is is it thegot milk commercial is he's
eating peanut butter, isn't he?

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I don't know what it is because he's he's on
something.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
It's something. It's it's gotta be peanut butter.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Okay. You

Speaker 2 (20:40):
gotta wash it you gotta wash it down with
something.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Now Michael Bay made that.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
So that

Speaker 1 (20:43):
is that's a negative one second. They're in Burad.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
That's Michael Bay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well, I think we talked about Michael Bay on this
show.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
So peanut butter, it's not strictly an American
thing. George Washington Carverinvented it.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
You know, Phil, that's according to the National
Peanut Board, that's actually amyth.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
I kinda think believe it.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I understand why you believe that. Because I

Speaker 1 (20:59):
and you heard me tell me so when I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
You know the famous peanut pamphlet he wrote in
1916? Yeah. By the time he'dwritten that, like, many people,
like, you know, even way back in1800s had already developed and
Did they put

Speaker 1 (21:10):
a pamphlet?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Or did they have a pamphlet though? They didn't
have a pamphlet. No. So it'strue that, George Washington and
Carver did invent the peanutbutter pamphlet. Yeah.
So he gets credit for that

Speaker 1 (21:21):
at least. Look. Peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
It had been around since it had been around in the
US since 1800. There were alsosimilar things earlier, like, in
apparently in in Suriname, like,when when it was a Dutch colony
in the 1700

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Is that where peanuts come from? Where are peanuts
native to?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
I know Aztecs and Incas were making were grinding
peanuts. So maybe it's from theAmericas. No. I got it from the
Americas.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I got something to say about peanuts.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
But I got I got a picture about Suriname.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
This is colonial Suriname. They were making, in
1700 something really similar towhat we have today, but they
called it peanut cheese. Was itWas

Speaker 1 (21:52):
it fermented?

Speaker 2 (21:53):
I don't think so. Okay. But it's like a Dutch
thing. I don't

Speaker 1 (21:56):
know how to taste. In Europe. If you go to Trader
Joe's, they sell it, and I knowit's a popular snack in Europe,
and it's like corn chips withpeanut on in them. It's like
peanut and corn chip together.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
And it it seems like again, it's like that that
doesn't follow the rules of whatI think you would do with peanut
butter, but, like, to me, thatyou don't put corn based things
with peanut based. It's justlike it it they don't go
together. But Yeah. It's again,like, that goes back to what we
were saying, in the last episodeabout, strip clubs serving food.
It's like, just becausesomething it doesn't seem you

(22:27):
know, like, we're trying to beopen minded about these things.
Now I have a theory about peanutbutter, and this is kind of an
edge case. My family doesn'tagree with me, but I'll tell
you. So you know how there's,like, extra smooth peanut
butter, extra crunchy peanutbutter, etcetera? Have I told
you about

Speaker 2 (22:41):
my onion? Talked about this on the podcast
before.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. So, like, peanuts are a form of peanut
butter. They're just, like, theabsolute crunchiest kind of
peanut butter. If you look,peanut butter just says
ingredients peanuts. You couldjust buy peanuts.
And once you crunch them up,they they're in your mouth and
they're peanut butter. And,like, that's all that you do to
make peanut butter. So, like,why can't you just why why there
should be a brand of peanutbutter that's just

Speaker 2 (23:01):
a jar of peanuts. Wait. Is a cow a form of butter?

Speaker 1 (23:04):
No. Because you have to milk the cow and churn the
butter. All you have to do tomake peanuts into peanut butter
is chew it. Like, that's all itis. You could actually put
peanuts just put a sprinkle ofpeanuts onto your jelly sandwich
and eat that, and and it wouldbe the same.
It would be the same, Jake,because it's just the

Speaker 2 (23:20):
No. It has to go through the it has to go through
a process. It has the spellrecipe put on it.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
You know what the process is? Being ground up, and
that's what your molars do.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
But there's a certain ritual involved, I think.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
You have to say the incantation.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah. Yeah. The incantation is I am making
peanut butter. Okay. And thenwhen I make the peanut butter

Speaker 1 (23:35):
when I'm chewing on peanuts. So anytime I eat
peanuts, I think, You can't. I'mmaking peanut butter. I'm making
this peanut butter in my mouthBecause that's all peanut butter
is is peanuts. If that's all itis, right, and I'm eating salted
peanuts.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
So When you eat when you eat, like, a carrot, are you
saying, I'm making carrotbutter?

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yes. Every time I eat anything, Jake, I say, yes, I'm
I'm saying if I drink water,

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I'm just I'm making a bagel butter.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah. Exactly. I'm making bagel mash. I'm I'm
mashing it up. So let me just Iwanna be very clear.
When I'm ranking peanut butter,I'm taking into account also
totally unground peanuts becausethat's peanut butter to me. It's
just the it it's in its most rawform. It's like the most the
most like, you think you're youthink you're all natural because
you're having a peanut butterthat you have to stir? I got

(24:18):
peanut butter. It's just a jarof peanuts that comes, and I
open it.
I sprinkle them out. And then INo.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
That that's not fair. You have to you you can't take
any, whole peanuts. You have totake in whole peanuts that have
been chewed. There's still aprocess. There's it's like it's
otherwise, it's just peanut.
There's still a process. So ifyou wanna include peanuts that
have been chewed and spit backout No.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
No. No.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
There's something something has happened to the
peanuts to make it peanutbutter. Why do

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I spit them out? No. Yeah. Peanuts that I have chewed
up are now peanut butter, so I'mcounting those.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah. But but, like, peanuts you haven't chewed up
are not peanut butter.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Okay. Fair enough. I just I I I had to just get that
out there because this is, like,a personal belief of mine. It's
a conviction that I held prettystrongly to. I think that, like,
it's a matter of degrees.
Like, there's a spectrum of ofsmoothness to crunchiness.
Right? And so Yeah. Once weestablish that, we realize that
all peanuts are peanut butter.Just some of them have and now
once they're out of the shell,of course.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
It's a process.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Have the you can't have the skins on them, and they
can't have the shell on them.And then they can then at that
point, they are peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
That's like saying a caterpillar is a butterfly. No.
It's

Speaker 1 (25:22):
not. It's more like saying

Speaker 2 (25:23):
It is. Yes. It it metamorphoses the peanut
metamorphoses through your mouthfor some sort of process and
time into peanut butter. Itdoesn't need

Speaker 1 (25:31):
time, though. Like, because all I need to do is eat

Speaker 2 (25:34):
it. To mash it.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah. By chewing it, but that's what you do anyway.
Like, you chew the peanuts. So,like, why why

Speaker 2 (25:42):
okay. You're the only nobody nobody who have you met
one person who agrees with youon this?

Speaker 1 (25:47):
No. Not yet. But that's why I'm putting it out
there. That's why I'm putting itout there. Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Okay. Listen to me, if you agree with Phil on this

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Well, you know every damn thing.net. Any listener

Speaker 1 (25:55):
we had to turn this off a long time ago, they were
like, oh, am I still listeningto this bullshit? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
If they listen to much of the episodes, They would
have heard this to have thisexact same conversation. Oh,
okay.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I'm sorry. I didn't mean I just realized I talked
about it on mic already. Yeah.Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
No. It's fine. It's because some people you gotta
treat every episode like it's aperson's first episode. So we're
gonna have to go over everysingle thing we've listed and
explain why we've listened.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, Jake, I have to treat every episode like it's
someone's last episode. So Iwanna make sure, like, to insult
them on the way out, and, like,tell them I didn't I don't wanna
listen to this anyway. Get, youknow, get the fuck out of that
kind of stuff, you know. Soyeah. So I'm ready I'm ready to
make peanut butter.
Yeah. I'm ready. Okay. Let'stalk about foods and substances,
I think.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
It's pretty fucking good.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
It's good. It's good.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
It does dry ground. Up there. It should be up it
does dry you out. That's oneproblem. But but, like, many
foods need to be you know, manysolid foods need to have
something to wash them downwith.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Now there's some comfort the

Speaker 2 (26:45):
highest ranked food because I feel like it it
deserves to be about as high I Ifeel like it's almost close to
being a perfect food.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, the first thing food we have is Itz It, Right?
Which is an ice cream cookiesandwich.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Pretty pretty high. Very high. Top 10. But the next
food down is

Speaker 1 (27:02):
pickles with 1 By

Speaker 2 (27:03):
the way, when I said it's it is 8, I didn't mean
eaten. I meant it's number 8.It's ranked to number 8. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
It has it has an 8 though. It

Speaker 2 (27:09):
down down down on number 20, we have pickles. And,
honestly, I would put peanutbutter above pickles.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Would you put peanut butters above backpacking or the
Spice Girls?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Peanut butter goes great together with backpacking.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Wait. Okay. Could you imagine? There's these girls.
They they're all singing aboutgirl power, and they're all from
the they're all from the UK, andthey're just all dancing.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
They're in

Speaker 1 (27:28):
your face. But it turned out when you, when you
went to look at them and youwent to the concert, it was just
5 jars of peanut butter. It waslike, one was crunchy, one was
smooth, one was just a bag ofpeanuts. Right? Would you be
disappointed, or would you beeven happier?
Would you be like, this is evenbetter?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I can't imagine that I would enjoy a concert
performed by or these areinanimate jars of peanut butter?

Speaker 1 (27:49):
No. They're anthropomorphic. They're walking
around, and they're dancing.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
I might like them. That might be fun. Yeah. What if
there was a peanut butter spice?What if the 6th Spice Girl was
peanut butter spice?

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Wait. What is you can buy spicy peanut butter. Was

Speaker 2 (27:59):
no. It's ginger spice, baby spice, scary spice,
and peanut butter spice. Shewould be pretty cool. I think
that it should go above theSpice Girls. And and Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Well, Renee's gonna hear this maybe. You know, it's
possible she'll hear this.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Oh, yeah. It's the English people are English
listeners are not gonna agreewith this.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, we mentioned we mentioned
Lucy Pinder on, and then, LucyPinder was like, yeah. I I heard
this Phil Phil and Jake aretalking about me. You know?
Like, she's invited to the show,you know, if if she ever needs
it. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Speakmy mind.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
And we've already ranked peanut butter, though. So
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well, I I doubt she I doubt she has an opinion. I bet
I doubt that Randy has anopinion on it because

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Oh, English people have an opinion about peanut
butter. Trust me. Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Because we were talking about food from her
country. Okay. So let me think.You wanna put it above spice
scrub or below forest bathing.Now forest bathing is just
walking around in the woods.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
No. No. It's immersing yourself in the sights
and sounds and natural beauty ofwoods in a way in a in a
contemplative and meditativestate. It's not just walking
around in the woods. So have youever been present?
Do you know that are you are youfamiliar with this?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Present in my own body? No. Never. Yeah. Very,
very infrequently.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
So it's kinda like that. I think that it could go
below forest bathing. I'm finewith that. Forest bathing seems
like a great thing. I've done itsome, I feel like, and I would
like to do it more.
So Do

Speaker 1 (29:14):
you like crunchy peanut butter or smooth peanut
butter?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I like them both, but I think I prefer crunchy.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Me too.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Peanut butter, the food I guess I prefer the number
18. We got another one in thetop 20. It's moving Spice Girls,
the music group, to number 19.And, let's take another break,
and we'll come back and rankanother thing. Okay.
We can come back now.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Jake, do you like boiled peanuts? Because I love
them. And I don't know if thosecount. Those count, but they're
in our shells, so they can't bepeanut butter. But they're wet.
They're mess, man.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I do love boiled peanuts. They are wet. They are
in their shells, and I love themtoo. Someone should submit those
for us to rank. But in themeantime, let's rank Sam
Elliott, which was submitted byJamie m.
This fellow is an actor. And,he's the third thing we're gonna
rank. I'm gonna read what Jamiewrote to us when she's when she

(30:02):
submitted Yeah. Sam Elliott. Shesaid, the mustache, I feel, is
the Parmesan cheese to top offthe beefcake.
Mask, the movie featuring one ofyour faves, Cher, is a real good
one with his mustache ride tshirt. He's got a t shirt that
says mustache ride in it. Andthen she tells the story. She's
she says, I worked the Woolseyfires in Malibu. This is a
couple years ago.
I think she was a a firefighter,forest firefighter, helping in

(30:25):
some way in in that capacity.His house was fine, but I got to
job walk on his property,meaning, I guess, check out,
make sure there was no fires. Ididn't meet him, but some of my
coworkers did and said he'sreally nice and very good
looking as expected. So, yeah,this is a guy that, he's he's a
real hunk. He's an actor.
He's got a Yeah. Wonderfulvoice. And and one

Speaker 1 (30:46):
of the top mustaches that you're gonna ever see.
Like, it's Yeah. He's probablyit's probably like him, Tom
Selleck. I don't really know whoelse would be the 3rd mustache.
Stacy Keach?
Yeah. Charlie Chaplin orsomething like that. You know?
It's like Yeah. There's notthere's

Speaker 2 (30:59):
not You like that mustache a lot, the Charlie
Chaplin one?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
No. I'm not a big fan. It kinda got ruined. But
Okay. I mean, at one point, thatwas, like, one of the 4
mustaches.
Like, you know, people are likeYeah. Oh, you know what? Who who
who is It

Speaker 2 (31:09):
was like that one, the big super twisty one.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I'm I'm saying, but, like, the
look has served him really well.Like, okay.
I watched these old things thathe was in because I saw the
Mission Impossible TV show. Nowwhat's one weird thing about
Mission Impossible TV show is,cause I like the Tom Cruise
movie, so I thought, oh, maybeI'll watch the old TV show. One
thing about the one thing aboutthe old show that's weird is it
uses the same music from StarTrek a lot. Like, when they get

(31:32):
in a fight, You know? Because Isaw a lot of star types

Speaker 2 (31:44):
growing up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Desilu Desilu Studios, it's called. So,
anyway, he they brought him on,like, not in the first couple
seasons, but he came on later.He was, like, the young, hunky
guy who they brought on. Thisis, like, early seventies. Yeah.
And he's just, like, this thishunky young guy with no
mustache, though. So with beforethe mustache came out, he was
just I felt like there wereother guys like him. You know

(32:05):
what I mean? He was like not tosay that he wasn't a good
looking dude, but it was itwasn't until he got the mustache
that he really started to pop.And then he got into, like,
westerns, and that's when Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah. In this in the seventies eighties, he started
really doing, like, smallerroles, character roles, or any
of them bigger and bigger rolesin, like, TV movies and other
stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
And that's like A lot of gravitas. Yeah. Like, you
know, when you when you see himsaying something, you're like,
oh, or, like, then you'll seehim in, Coen Brothers, the the

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Big Lebowski. Yeah. He plays the stranger.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah. And he's like he's like basically the
narrator. And this guy is what'sup. You know? He's the real
deal.
You think this guy shouldnarrate just about everything.
Like, he can narrate naturedocumentaries. He just got a
tremendous voice. Now as Irecall, he does, I wanna say he
does Ram voice over for Ramtrucks.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Who does Dodge? Dodge Dodge trucks?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Who does Ram?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
And he also does Kurz. Maybe maybe Ram is a
Dodge?

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah. I so he does a triage.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
A lot of voice over, but but, like, the ones that I
think are really most

Speaker 1 (32:59):
brands. Like, that guy

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Big brands are are Dodge and Kurz.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah. I think that, like, he's one of the most in
demand voices. Like, if ifyou're trying to if you're
trying to get somebody with avoice, that's whose voice you
want and has a lot of authority.Yes. Anything that's trying to
have any kind of western

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Masculinity.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah. Masque western masculinity, traditional. And
that's why, you know, he got hehe had some comments. There was
a movie that, a Jane Campionmovie that came out, and he was
criticizing it.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Now hold on. Before we before we talk about the Jane
Campion movie, I do wanna sayyou haven't seen the movie.
Right?

Speaker 1 (33:29):
The Jane Campion movie? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Power of the dog.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
No. He told me he told me it wasn't any good. He
made some comments about it, buthe didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
There's some there's some spoilers. If people have
seen the movie and don't knowand don't wanna know anything
about the movie, there's stuffthat gets revealed. There's some
spoilers to follow, so skipahead if you don't wanna hear
about spoilers in that movie.Okay. Yeah.
But so I listened. Did youlisten to the the WTF with Mark
Maron he was on? No. No. So hegot in trouble for it.
He essentially said he wasn'tvery articulate. But he he
talked about the movie, said itwas a piece of shit. But and,

(33:58):
but he mainly essentially saidhe he complained about that it's
not a good good portrayal of theAmerican West. And Yeah. He
called it a piece of shitwestern, and he used the phrase
with allusions to homosexualitywithout going very much into it.
That's the spoiler bit.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Because it's like Power of the Dog is about
deconstructing ideas of, westernideas of ideas traditional ideas
of American masculinity, andit's concerned with that's the
project that's in terms of thenI get it. I would say, like he
also said that Everyone's gottheir opinion. You know? True.
True.
And so, like, I feel like a lotof people maybe were kinda hard
on people on this list based ona bullshit opinion they had.

(34:32):
Like, man, if you wrote down Imean Like, if someone what if
you you asked me and then, like,where should we put Phil Green?
And, like, you know what hethinks about peanuts. Right? You
gotta go at the bottom of thatlist.
So I understand.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
There's there's a different the difference about
what you might think aboutpeanuts, like, sort of a
harmless thing, and and andsaying something really hurtful
to people. He also he wanted hehe also said during it about
Jane Campion, who's a woman fromNew Zealand. He's like, what the
fuck does this woman from downthere, meaning New Zealand, know
about the American West? And, asa side note, Campion, she said,

(35:01):
he's really hit the trifecta ofmisogyny, xenophobia, and
homophobia with this phrase.But, to your point as to, like,
what does it matter what hethinks?
Well, Sam Elliott seems to thinkthat it matters what he thinks
because he, apologized not muchlater.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
He said, you know, I didn't, I wasn't being
articulate in what I was saying.He said, I I I'm quoting him
now. He said, I said some thingsthat hurt people and I feel
terrible about that. The gaycommunity has been incredible my
entire career and I mean myentire career from before I got
started in this town. Friends onevery level and every job
description up until today.
I'm sorry I hurt any of thesefriends and someone that I loved

(35:37):
and anyone else by the wordsthat I used. So, yeah, if
someone says something fuckingterrible

Speaker 1 (35:42):
How terrible is what he said? I can And,

Speaker 2 (35:44):
actually, isn't that it actually isn't that bad. The
shit, man. I can't That's athat's a different point.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Also, like

Speaker 2 (35:49):
He didn't he what he said wasn't that terrible, but
it it it it's he mainly becausehe didn't he didn't get much
into it, but, like, what heleft, unsaid or maybe maybe he
wasn't maybe he wasn't unsaid,you know, maybe because because
because he I'm not being veryarticulate now. Why? Because he
wasn't very articulate, it couldit could be interpreted a lot of
different ways. But the mainpoint the the the most important

(36:10):
thing is that he acknowledgedwhat he said and and

Speaker 1 (36:13):
And I'd say, hey, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Clarified that he that he misspoke and that that
he that maybe what he maybe whathe said was wrong.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I'll tell you what I think is a problem with Westerns
is there are so few Westernsbeing made now that every
Western that's made has a lotmore weight. So you're like
Right. Well, like, 2 thirds ofthe Western, the last, you know,
major this is made by a studio,released by a studio, you know,
major pictures. Yeah. Like, 2thirds of them are like, it's
it's rare that there's that it'snot some sort of,

(36:42):
Deconstruction.
Deconstruction or

Speaker 2 (36:43):
comments. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Evaluating the myth or or about Hollywood history
or, you know, it's like youdon't because there's not a 100
tossed off westerns a year thatthat, you know, that are that
are in the traditional mold.Right? Like, the kind that we're
the showing when when, when thisguy grew up. So it's like I I
was thinking because it's like,you know, eventually, there's
not gonna be superheroes anymoremovies anymore, and there'll be

(37:04):
something else. Yeah.
There'll be some other genrethat'll be dominant.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
And there's gonna be a shitload of, like I mean, not
that there aren't alreadydeconstructions on superheroes,
but, like, are there gonna bemore

Speaker 1 (37:11):
superhero movies than you? There will be because,
like, the only people who arewho will make that kind of thing
are people who have, you know,for it's not it's not the thing
to do. Right? So making awestern is not a surefire way to
make money, and and working withhorses is expensive and it's
time consuming. Yeah.
But, like, it just it made methink, like, maybe there should
be more traditional westerns inthe sense of, like okay. Think

(37:33):
about a movie like Young Guns.Right? Young Guns is very much
like, it's like a like, it's arevitalization of a traditional
western tropes and stuff. It'snot it's not like an am I saying
this right?
An Elegiate. Elegiac. Why am Ihaving such a problem?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah. It's not like an elegiac look at the American
West. It's not, trying to, likebut it it it's not it's
subverting some tropes a littlebit. Right? It's updating some
things.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's likeAnd

Speaker 2 (37:59):
it's like, what if it was the American west, but
everybody had eighties hairdos?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah. And Lou Diamond Phillips has is plays a real
character. He's not like a Yeah.He's not like a a comic relief
or a sidekick or something likethat. Yeah.
So, yeah, there's things in it,but it's like it just occurs to
me that, like, that, like,that's a problem if the only
things that are made in acertain genre are, like, high
culture or or or made, you know,made by somebody like Jane
Campion, a great director, but,like, not I I don't think what

(38:25):
you would call, like, a populistdirector.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
I I would say that in this era and, like, Sam
Elliott's a great example ofthis. I mean, the reason he had
that interview, where he saidthat stuff is because he was
promoting his prestige or, youknow, streaming fucking TV show
or miniseries that's about that.So a lot of the there's a lot

Speaker 1 (38:45):
of There's western stuff out there.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Western stuff on TV for sure. Okay. But, yeah, I
mean,

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I think it's part

Speaker 2 (38:50):
of the natural cycle of, like, of of genre stuff like
that anyways where I mean, thequestion's been around for
fucking 200 years now or sorry,for 100 years now.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah. Like, they they I mean, they were around fucking
from the start of film more orless.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah. Western movies. That's where that's where they

Speaker 2 (39:04):
got that camera working. Fucking close. Yeah.
Yeah. Exactly.
And and I think it's just partof the cycle. Now that, like,
our parents and grandparentsand, like, our great
grandparents and their parentshave, like, all see westerns,
and have seen them, and it'ssomething that they know. It's
like the water, you know, like,it makes sense that there would
be high minded reflections onthem. And there were even, like,

(39:27):
movies movies in the fortiesfifties that would could be
considered high mindedreflections on the genre. Yeah.
I suppose.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Sam Elliott. Yeah. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
We're talking about Sam Elliott.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
When he shows up in the movie, I love it. I I like
when he

Speaker 2 (39:45):
The point about the controversy is that is to me is
that he said some stuff thatmight that could have been taken
off. In my opinion, it was alittle offensive, but it could
have been worse. It wasn't like,you know, canceling type
material. Mainly because hedidn't really say much. He just
was really vague.
But he made a point to apologizeto anybody he might have
insulted

Speaker 1 (40:02):
at this point. People were calling movies because of
shit, though. I wish more peoplewould say this movie

Speaker 2 (40:06):
is because of shit.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Like, honestly

Speaker 2 (40:07):
That movie is not a piece of shit. That movie I
thought was was great. Youwouldn't like it because it's
boring, but,

Speaker 1 (40:12):
I like it because it's boring. That's the thing
is, like, I have my own reasons.Like, I I'm not a Jane Campion
dude because when I try to watchthese movies, like, I would fall
asleep, man. I'll straight upfall asleep.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Sleep is high up on the list. I'd put sleep above
Jane Campion movies. Well, Idon't know. I put them out
equally because I experiencedthem the same way. Right?
And and that's not like, I I Ican appreciate that something is
well made or appreciate theartistry, but also think it's,
like, sleep. It's, like, superboring. You know? Yeah. Like,
that's just my personal taste,though.
Right? So I'm not saying whatone I can't say one thing's
better than another thing. Ofcourse, I say that because while

(40:43):
you and I are on the show,literally saying one thing

Speaker 2 (40:46):
That's our job. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's our it's our
that's how we make Pod Bucks.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Exactly. He you're you're right. I did interrupt
you when you were saying thatyou that you love him whenever
you see him. And I love when Iever whenever I see him in any

Speaker 1 (40:55):
case. Hear him? Do you think you gotta get that

Speaker 2 (40:57):
his voice?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Gotta get that did?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
A rant. Joe Biden campaign in 2020? No. I Joe
Biden campaign ad. He'd hevocalized, which is probably why
Joe Biden won.
Probably. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
His voice carries a lot of weight. Like, it

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Like, because people hear his voice, and they think,
like, oh, that's a he you know,that's the guy who's, like,
who's, like, looking off intothe middle distance at the, you
know, at the at the at the wagontrain coming through or
something. You know? Or Yeah.You know? He and and he's old,
and it's like, as he's gottenolder, like, he didn't have that
kind of that kind of gravitas onmission impossible.
Right? He kinda aged into it. Hegot he Yeah. He he aged into,

(41:30):
like, a real authority. I kindaHis career

Speaker 2 (41:32):
arc has been, like, very slow and gradual upward
trajectory. Like, he you know, Iknow even by the time when he
was in when he was in BigLebowski, I was like, oh, it's
that character actor. You know?It's like that that was that was
a big kind of a bigger thing forhim. He had been he had a number
of side, roles and stuff likethat.
He had been in

Speaker 1 (41:49):
He he had

Speaker 2 (41:50):
been in Roadhouse. You're right. He wasn't by then,
he was well known. ButRoadhouse, for example, he was
like he that's the time where hewas like, oh, he had been in
mask as as a character. Youknow, I was like And

Speaker 1 (42:00):
he'd been a lot on TV and stuff. He'd been on TV a
lot.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
It was it was a big deal. I think that he was in
tombstone as Virgil Earp, whichis like part of the reason I
really love him. One of the manyreasons I love him is because I
love that movie, and he's greatin it. Also notable is he played
Thunderbolt Ross in one of theHulk movies. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. And he class really goodcasting.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
He classes things up. Like, he's one of those people
that he he classes up aproduction by being in it. Like,
imagine you if you're watchingparticularly a western, but
other like, it could be like acontemporary detective story,
set in the American Southwest,and, and, they go and they talk
to the the, you know, the thesuspect there, you know, and the
suspect is him, and you're like,oh, shit. Like, this I didn't

(42:40):
realize this guy was in thismovie. I didn't realize what I
was into, you know.
I saw a movie like that, or he Isaw one where it was like a he
was a military guy, and itworked, you know. He works in
other settings. I'd kinda likewish he had done more science
fiction and things like that. Hedid a golden compass, which is
based on these books, these, HisDark Materials, and and the
movie wasn't particularly good,but it was cool to see him. He
plays a balloonist in it.

(43:01):
It but it's like a a fantasytype movie. You know? It's like
Right. Like a

Speaker 2 (43:05):
He's he's a bit of a one note guy regardless of of
what I mean, a lot of times he'scast in the exact same role
Yeah. Over and over again. Idon't think he minds that that
much.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Crusty, but benevolent. You know, he don't
he doesn't play the murderer. Hedoesn't usually play the guy
that that that that's gonna, youknow, he doesn't play the the
villain from Dirty Harry orsomething like that. Mentor
character, trustworthy father,that kind of thing. And you
think, like Yeah.
Tommy Lee Jones is probablytrying to take his spot all the
time. I bet, like, Tommy LeeJones goes and, like, auditions

(43:34):
for the role, but SamuelElliott's there, and he's like,
shit. I'm not gonna get it. Youknow? You think that happens?

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. I could I could see that. I mean,
probably a little bit of both, Ibet.
Because it can go either way,I'm sure. Do are do you wanna
rank them? I've Yeah. I'm readyto

Speaker 1 (43:48):
rank them. All the stuff there's You know, I do.
I'm easy ranking actual humanbeings.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
I know. I know. But you you have to do it, so that's
why you get out of your comfortspace.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I know, but I don't like it, especially because,
like, what if he finds out? Andhe's like, oh, you put me too
high or too low, or

Speaker 2 (44:00):
you said this wrong? Over podcast right now, so I
don't think he'll be listeningto this one.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah. So we have other actors on here, and I
think those are faircomparisons. Right?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah. Of course.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
You got someone like Bill Paxton. Right? Bill Paxton
is he pops more, and he's a he'she stars in things more. And,
like, he I feel like he'ssomebody who, when I see him in
movies, it's more I like it morethan when I see Sam Elliott
movies. Now

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Where's Bill Paxton's ranked at number

Speaker 1 (44:26):
59? 59. Yeah. Like, Bill Paxton got turned into,
like, a weird creature and andweird science. He, he gets
killed in aliens.
You know? He has some, like,memorable scenes.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah. He plays he plays that that sleazebag in,
True Lies.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, again, we have number at
number 91, we have ShaquilleO'Neal. Shaquille O'Neal has won
multiple NBA championships.
You know. Like, this guy has wonthe MVP. This guy is like a a a
renowned figure. Right? So Ikinda think that maybe something
like Shaquille O'Neal.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Maybe something like that. I mean, I I I do agree
that, he Bill Paxton, I think,deserves to go above, Sam
Elliott,

Speaker 1 (45:06):
for a

Speaker 2 (45:07):
lot of reasons, but mainly just mainly for the
breadth of his differentperformances.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Oh, yeah. Like, he he's played different types.
Like, whereas, Samuel Elliottbasically plays the same kind of
type, which is Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
But, I mean, but Samuel Elliott's got the I mean,
that type is great, and thatfucking voice is, like,
undeniably, like, one of thebest things to come out of
Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
You spread it on you spread it on bread, and it's
better than peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Exactly. Another person between like, I wanna put
him above Shaquille. Shaquillejust doesn't excite me

Speaker 1 (45:33):
that way. About Shaquille O'Neal, you never
watch if you ever look at ahighlight reel of Shaquille
O'Neal, what's fascinating abouthim is Shaquille O'Neal is
giant. Like, when you watch himnow and he's retired and he's
talking to the you know how theyhave those shows where he and
the other ex basketball players,they're talking about the game
and joking around with eachother. He's like a foot taller
than Charles Barkley. CharlesBarkley is enormous.
Like, if you saw Charles Barkleyon the street, you'd be like,
what the hell? This guy's big.He's, like, he's much bigger

(45:54):
than Charles Barkley. Right? Butthen when you watch him when he
would play, how fast he was,like, he could cut any and and
you think, like, how cansomebody this big move this
fast?
It's it's, like, it's reallyincredible. Honestly, it's like
it's like because he was in yourin the in the world's life for
so long, they kind of forgotwhat a what, like, a a
miraculous physically per personthis is physically. Right? The

(46:18):
same way Right.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
And the

Speaker 1 (46:19):
same way that Sam Elliott's mustache, I would say
Shaquille O'Neal's quickness isvery similar. You forget Sam
Elliott's mustache. You forgethow powerful it is until you see
it. And you're like, oh, man.It's right there.
What if he shaved

Speaker 2 (46:29):
it for real? I guess, like, I guess I guess
Shaquille's, like, size andheight is sort of the natural
thing, like, that he that hethat he has similar in a way to
Sam Elliott's voice.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Or maybe his voice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
But then but then the the mustache is like the speed.
Like, Sam Elliott's mustache isto just like Shaq's speed.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah. Shaq is like you know, he is cut to the
pinnacle of his professionmultiple times. He's won the MVP
award, which they only give outto 1 player every year. Right?
And he's won that multipletimes.
So Yeah. Like, he is theabsolute top in his profession.
Now I understand you're not aTennessee. Tombstone's your
favorite movie. You don't watchthe NBA finals from, 2001.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
It's one of my favorite movies. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
But you're not you don't you don't say, hey. I'm
gonna watch the finals where,you know, where No. Where the
Shaq beat the No. Beat theIndiana Indiana Pacers. I get
that, man.
But I'm saying, like, considerShaq here. I think Shaq is

Speaker 2 (47:21):
at that comparison. I'll concede to you on this that
it's it's comparable. Yeah. Justbecause of my inexperience or or
like the fact that I know don'tcare about baseball that or
basketball rather Alright. Okay.
That much.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
So so then let's think about this then. Now we
have shirtless midwearingelaborate angel wings, gold lame
shorts, and furry cha cha heels.That's an idea. What if Sam
Elliott

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Young Sam Elliott could have been one of those
dudes? Like, this was a realhe's a real Yeah. He like, this
guy I

Speaker 2 (47:47):
mean, or old or old Sam Elliott, like Honestly? I
mean, they do belong together.So would you go above or below
that?

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Be sandwiched in between Shaquille O'Neal and the
shirtless men wearing elaborateangel wings, gold lame shorts,
and free cha cha heels. Weshould have an acronym for that.
Because I feel like we say it. Ifeel like is it just because
it's such a long one that we sayit have to say it all the time?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
No. I think, well, because it's fun to say, and
everybody wants w

Speaker 1 (48:06):
e a w g l s.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah. They wouldn't nobody would wanna hear that.
Like, people wanna people wannahear I could, like, I can I can
almost hear, like, the listenerright now jumping up and
cheering when we and, like,saying it along with us when we
say shirtless man wearingelaborate angel wings, gold lame
shorts, and furry cha cha heels?Honestly, I was chanting it

Speaker 1 (48:23):
right now. I imagine it, I'm thinking, I don't
imagine the heels. I forgetabout that part. When I'm saying
it, I'm like, oh, yeah. Also,they got heels on, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah. Yeah. I'm mainly thinking about the
shorts. So, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Right above

Speaker 2 (48:35):
that, you think?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think between I think he should
be between them and Shaq.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Okay. Alright. So, Sam Elliott goes in at, 92,
moving to number 93. Shirtlessmen wearing elaborate angel
wings, gold lame shirts, andfurry Cha Cha heels.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Gold lame shorts.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
I said gold lame shorts, didn't I?

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Hey. You read the tape. Listen to the tape, and
and you'll find it didn't. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Did it say shirts?

Speaker 1 (49:05):
You know what? I should When I say

Speaker 2 (49:07):
when I say skorts, I say jorts, what did I say?

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I shoulda let it go. Go eliminate George to be tight.
Okay. But they should be tightas well.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
So before we close out, I wanna let listeners know
that, it's getting close to thelast chance to vote for what
item we're going to re rank inan upcoming episode. Polls are
about to close, And I'm gonna gothrough the last few things that
are have been nominated. One ofthem is Harry Styles. I think,
Harry Styles was originallysubmitted by Emily Cain. We

(49:35):
ranked him back in 71, and weranked him pretty dang high on
the list.
He is currently at where is he?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
I couldn't tell you one song by Harry Styles.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
At 23. Yeah. The Harry Styles shuffle.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah. You can name

Speaker 2 (49:48):
one movie he was in. You can name 2 movies he was in.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
I I can't, man.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yes, you can. Come on.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Was he in Tenet or something? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
No. He was in, Dunkirk, and he was also in Oh,
yeah. Spoiler alert.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Oh, I saw Dunkirk. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
So he's ranked he's currently at number 23. Dirty
Dancing and Beth, your wife,Phil, both think that he's
ranked too high, and we shouldre rank him.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
If you agree, listener, go to every damn thing
dot net. Click on the vote herebutton and

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I think all the human beings are too high. I think
that that the top human beingshould be somewhere, like,
around 20 in in the twenties,like, you know, below below air
and molasses and, the popPopeye's and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Another human being in the in the top 2 top 20 is,
Britney Spears. She's at number15. Oh, I said too high. She was
originally submitted by, Dan r.We ranked her in episode 84.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Mhmm.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Phil, you nominated her for re ranking. You think
she's too high?

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah. I think so. No disrespect. I just think that,
like, all a lot of people aretoo high, and what happens is
they serve as anchors for oneanother. So then the next time
somebody comes in, then our eyesare then somebody says, oh, I
don't like Britney Spears asmuch as I like this person, so
this person has to be aboveBritney Spears on the list, and
then we end up putting all morepeople too high.

(51:03):
And I think that human beingsare too high. Human beings are
flawed, man. Like, even the bestof us.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I know.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
You ever The

Speaker 2 (51:09):
human beings are great. We wouldn't be here if it
wasn't for human beings. I mean,this list this list wouldn't we
wouldn't be well, the list wouldexist

Speaker 1 (51:14):
so we wouldn't be able to

Speaker 2 (51:15):
tell it to other human beings. What's that?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
You ever smell human feces? That comes from human
beings, and it's not doesn'tsmell good ever.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I've never smelled that.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Well, let me give you a hint about what it smells
like. It doesn't smell good. Youever heard somebody say that
smells like shit? They're nottalking about dog shit.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Listener, if you agree with Phil and you think
the human beings are ranked toohigh, go in there, vote for
Britney Spears, or vote forHarry Styles to be reranked. If
you don't agree with him, go toevery damn thing dot net. Click
on the vote here, link, and andvote for something else to be
reranked.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
And you can vote for multiple things, like, you could
vote more

Speaker 2 (51:50):
For example, like, you could you could go in there,
and you could vote foralternative milks.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Which is at number 107, which was originally
submitted by Thad. We ranked itin episode 84, but Melissa b
thinks we should re rank it.There's one at thinks it's too
low.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
There's one at the store called Mauk, which is like
from a Simpsons joke, and Ithought that's really funny that
yeah. It's Mauck. It's likealmonds or whatever. I don't
peanuts or something.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
So You could also go in there and, vote for cochlear
implants.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
You could vote for everything but cochlear implants
too. Like, you can vote forlike, let's say there's 10
things. You can vote for 9 ofthem at once. Oh. And Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
I mean, that's that's

Speaker 1 (52:29):
kinda yummy. Strategic.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Yeah. I suggest you vote for 3. Cochlear implants is
currently 142. It was originallysubmitted by Kaylene. We ranked
it not long ago, episode 88.
Donovan thinks it's ranked waytoo low. I kinda think it's too
low too. But, Phil thinks thatthey're bad. And some other
people think that they're bad.They probably don't listen to
this episode.
It's a little

Speaker 1 (52:48):
more nuanced, man, than that.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
But might read a a transcription of this if you
ever get those made. That's agood call. And at number,
currently at number, what, 272,we have plastic straws. Those
are submitted by Kai. We rankedthem in episode 88.
And Stephane, who we, read, somecomments from today

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Mhmm.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Thinks that plastic straws are ranked too low. He
thinks that they're much betterthan 272.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
You know what I respect about plastic straws? At
McDonald's Corporation. If youever knew McDonald's. At
McDonald's, if you get a soda,they I think because they wanna
get you out of there faster, youknow, like the people they want
they want more what do you callit when you're trying to get
people through? They want moreTurnover?
Higher turnover. The straws arewider gauge. The straws are,
like, twice as wide as a regularstraw. So it it allows you to

(53:36):
drink if you if you're soinclined, you can slam a soda
much faster from because it thisis why it's

Speaker 2 (53:41):
not soda and maybe go buy another one too.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah. Yeah. Or just get you gotta get more glucose
in you, man. I know how it is.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
You gotta.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah. Yeah. By the way, when we made peanut butter,
did that include when there's aspiral of jelly mixed in with
it? You know what I'm talkingabout?

Speaker 2 (53:54):
That includes the this only only the peanut butter
part of it. Okay. Okay. So,like, we we ranked peanut butter
ice cream, which is on the listsomewhere, but, that doesn't
include all peanut butter icecream. Just the part with just
the peanut butter part of thepeanut butter

Speaker 1 (54:07):
ice cream. Okay. Good. I was just thinking about
it. I know it's calledsomething, and it's like it it
looks kinda cool at the store,but I've never bought it because
I thought it was the dumbestshit I ever saw in my life, but
kind of interesting still,nonetheless.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Let's see. So this is the part of the show where we
say goodbye. It's the tearfulgoodbye, and I'm sad to see it
go. Jake, you know that I alwayslike recording these with you. I
like recording them with gueststoo, but I always like doing
this with you.
Thank you

Speaker 2 (54:29):
for listening

Speaker 1 (54:30):
to every damn thing. We hope that you enjoyed it. Oh,
and also I should hasten to addthat the for the listener, I'm
also glad that we get to saythis, to have

Speaker 2 (54:37):
the listener Of course.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
To join us, you know, and not be able to interrupt us.
That's the best part.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah. I'm gonna interrupt you. Listener, as a
reminder, I've only said it onceor twice, but if you do wanna
vote on which item we're gonnare rank, go to every damn thing
dot net. There's a link there.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
And you can also you can also email us at
[e-mail] if youwanna suggest a new topic or,
you know, see a show notes or,or the updated list as it is
currently. You can find us onTwitter, Instagram, and
Facebook, and you can suggesttopics there. And you can
subscribe or follow wherever youlisten. Our theme is by jpuget.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yes. And if you want to tell Phil that he's wrong
about his peanuts theory or thathe's right, you can do it at all
those places Phil just listed.If you enjoyed the show, please
rate and review it. Send us ascreenshot of a 5 star review,
and we'll bump a submission ofyour choice to the front of the
queue. Also, if you want tosupport the show, we recommend
it to Sam Elliott.
He probably won't listen to itbecause I don't I think he

(55:31):
doesn't like podcasts. So if hesays I'm not gonna listen to
that fucking piece of shitpodcast, then recommend it to a
friend instead or all yourfriends or whatever.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah. And, as always, it ranks for everything.