July 10, 2025 • 41 mins
In today’s episode, I’m introducing you to evening rosemary—a hardy, aromatic plant celebrated across centuries for its protective, clarifying, and heart-strengthening qualities. I’ll share how rosemary invites us to honor our memories, cultivate mental clarity, and approach life with playful reverence and warmth.
What we explore in this episode:
- What rosemary is and its rich historical and herbal background
- Which tarot cards and astrological energies rosemary resonates with
Practical ways to work with rosemary in ritual, gardening, cooking, and everyday magic
💐 Meet the Plant Ally: Rosemary
Rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis) is a resilient, evergreen shrub originally native to the Mediterranean but now beloved around the world. With its woody stems, needle-like fragrant leaves, and delicate purple-blue flowers, rosemary is deeply associated with remembrance, protection, and clarity.
Historically used for purification rituals, funerals, weddings, and offerings, rosemary reminds us to keep a clear head, honor the wisdom of our past, and approach life with joy and warmth.
🔮 Rosemary & Tarot
Rosemary resonates with tarot archetypes that celebrate memory, heart wisdom, and mental clarity:
Six of Cups — inviting us to revisit joyful memories, embrace our inner child, and find sweetness in nostalgia without getting stuck.
The Hermit — illuminating introspection, personal wisdom, and self-guided clarity.
The Sun — representing warmth, vitality, and life-affirming energy (rosemary is ruled by the sun and associated with fire).
Astrologically, rosemary is connected to the Sun and the sign Aries, supporting courage, warmth, and action rooted in clear intention.
🌿 Plant Magic & Energetics
Edible & Herbal Uses: Rosemary is a popular culinary herb, delicious with root vegetables, meats, breads, and infused oils. Medicinally, it is known for stimulating circulation, supporting memory, and offering antimicrobial properties (always consult a professional before medicinal use!).
Ritual Use:
Burn rosemary to purify your space and invite clarity.
Include sprigs on your altar to strengthen intentions and connect to ancestral wisdom.
Use rosemary baths or hair rinses for energetic cleansing and renewal.
Gardening & Offerings:
Plant rosemary near your front door for protection and to welcome guests with warmth.
Create herbal salts or vinegars as gifts to share rosemary’s loving, clarifying energy.
Harvest with gratitude, acknowledging rosemary as a wise elder plant spirit.
Energetic Properties:
Clears mental fog and supports focus.
Protects against negativity while gently encouraging heart-centered openness.
Connects us to joyful memories and invites playfulness and delight in everyday life.
💭 Today's Tarot Pull:
From The Goddess of Love Tarot Deck, I pulled The Hanged One (upright).
This card reminds us to surrender, see things from a new perspective, and allow clarity and transformation to arise through patience and heart-centered stillness—beautifully echoing rosemary’s invitation to find new wisdom in old stories and embrace life’s cycles with openness and devotion.
Reflective prompts on this card:
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episode. All right, so welcome to season
11 here where I'm talking all about tarot and plant allies.
If you haven't listened to my other seasons yet, you should
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Arcana cards and an overview of the four suits.
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And in six season 678 and 9 I went through all the suits
starting with Wands, Pentacles, Swords and cups.
And then season 10, which I justwrapped up was all about tarot
and witchcraft. So obviously may have gathered,
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OK, so like I said, we are in season 11 now where I'm talking
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all about tarot and plant allies.
And today I'm talking about tarot and the plant Rosemary.
So we're going to go through a couple of things in this
episode, a plant description. We're going to talk about plant
magic with Rosemary. We're going to talk about its
relation to the tarot, and then we're going to talk about some
uses of Rosemary. Unlike maybe some of the other
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plants I've talked about thus far, Rosemary is probably a
plant you're familiar with, or at least an herb you're familiar
with. Rosemary.
I was reading some history on the plant of Rosemary, and some
say that it was first documentedas being cultivated 5000 years
ago, I believe, so that is quitea long time.
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It's originally comes from the Mediterranean area and so it
does like that sort of climate, which often means wet in winter,
dry in summer, which actually even though I live in the
Pacific Northwest of the US, it thrives here.
Lots of people where I live havewhat I would call old, old
growth Rosemary. It doesn't die in the winter
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time here. It doesn't get cold enough where
I live. And so people have really thick
tree like looking Rosemary, or at least Bush like looking
Rosemary as just often as just an ornamental plant.
Umm, but again, so maybe you're familiar with the herb of
Rosemary. Maybe you've never seen the
whole plant though. So I will have a photo from the
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medicinal herb coloring book that I've referenced in a couple
other episodes. So Rosemary, also known as
Romarinas officionalis officianalis, is a Latin name.
So Rosemary perennial herb native to the Mediterranean,
grown in gardens all over the world.
However, Rosemary is a warming circulatory stimulant and has
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been used to treat issues such as varicose veins, chilblains
and arteriosclerosis, which is thickening and hardening of the
walls of the arteries. Rosemary stimulates blood flow
to the head, making it useful for headaches and migraines as
well as with short term memory and focus.
Rosemary can also help stimulatemenstruation and relieve spasms.
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The essential oil is antimicrobial and useful in a
first aid context. If you're allergic to aspirin, a
hemophiliac, using pharmaceutical anticoagulants,
or about to have a surgical procedure, don't use Rosemary.
Discontinue use if the blood flow to your head causes you any
discomfort. So a lot of these things, I will
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get into some of the plant magicpart of it, but Rosemary as an
essential oil and also as a plant is often seen as good for
clarity. Again, bringing blood flow to
your head, so sort of helping you think or focus.
So it's not necessarily a calming plant, right?
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Wouldn't necessarily want to be,I guess using the essential oil
in maybe the evening when you'retrying to go to sleep, unlike
some other ones. But it is the sort of, again,
it's a warming circulatory stimulant.
So it gets their blood flow going.
And again, that's part of why ifyou're on some other medication
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can be harmful. If you're consuming Rosemary at
a medicinal level, generally consuming plants on a medicinal
level means a lot of the plant more than you would ever use
culinarily, unless you're literally eating the same thing
for every single meal for like aweek or two.
So just keep that in mind. And again, I am not giving out
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herbalist advice or telling you to use any of these plants as
medicine without the advisement of a healthcare professional.
So keep that in mind. We're talking generally about,
again, the plant itself, you know, magic associated with it,
the relation to tarot and some, you know, culinary or maybe
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topical uses for Rosemary. So again, in the plant
description, if you've never seen the whole plant before, I
have a large plant of it. Like I said, it grows very well
in my climate and I would say itlooks like Medusa.
If you know the sort of traditional depiction of Medusa
where it's like curly, like sortof wild curly hair that turn
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into snakes at the end. The I would say that's the vibe
of a Rosemary plant. It's sort of shrubby.
It grows on. So I'll have old wood that's
like brown and then it will get new growth all the time.
So the picture I have today thatI'll put with the podcast is
some older growth of it. And that is what flowered
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recently for me. It actually now has part of the
seed heads are dried up. So if you wanted to, you can you
could start Rosemary from seed from this plant.
Generally, most herbs are very challenging to start from seed.
It's kind of like I was talking about last episode with evening
primrose that a lot of the plants that grow really well in
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almost any climate and almost any condition are actually often
very challenging to start from seed.
So generally with herbs, taking cuttings, which just means
cutting off a snippet of it, usually of a woodier part of the
plant, and then sticking it in dirt and hoping it roots, that's
like what a cutting is, and thenbeing able to grow that plant
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larger. So cuttings are clones of a
plant, right? You're taking the part of that
exact plant and you're cutting apiece off and then you're trying
to grow it bigger in your own location, in your own soil or in
your own in water sometimes to propagate it.
Whereas if you had the seeds from the plant, it is going to
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be genetically different perhaps.
So, you know, interesting information about plants.
Let's see here. So, yeah, the plant is generally
green or sometimes like a greenish blue when it flowers.
That has, at least on my Bush, sort of like tiny purpley blue
flowers. Like I said at the part in the
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summer that I am at right now, those flowers have dried up and
they've turned into seed heads, which are hard.
And so actually, if I crush someof them, I can find the tiny
little seeds that are in there. So, you know, in theory, the
Rosemary could spread throughoutmy yard.
It hasn't yet. Other things spread a lot more
easily. So it definitely does better
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from a cutting, I would say. So if you want a Rosemary plant,
you don't want to buy one. If you have a friend or anyone
else you know that has a plant, you can ask them to take a
cutting for you or when you're over at their house, you know,
get consent. But you can take a cutting of
their plant. You can bring it home, put it in
some soil. You can look up how to root
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cuttings online. There's some things that help
with it. Make sure it's well watered and
hope that roots grow and then itwill grow its own plant anyway.
Perennial plants take a long time to grow big, usually takes
about three years from when you start the plant to when it does
very well and starts really growing once it's established.
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There's this phrase that they say about plants from seed or
from a very small seedling. I'm trying to remember what it
is. So it's like year one it creeps,
year 2, it leaps, year three. I'm going to have to look it up
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now. OK, I looked it up.
So the phrase is the first year it sleeps, the second year it
creeps, the third year it leaps.So often if you get a plant,
even if you get it from, you know, a garden store or a
nursery or something like that, even if it's fairly large and
established, it usually will notreally grow much visibly on the
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surface in the first year. Even if you have great soil,
even if you're doing all the right things, like it's often
going to look like it's the samesize, right?
You kept it alive. Yay, we love that.
But what is happening is that it's putting down roots right
underneath the ground, which we can't necessarily see, but
that's what you want a plant to do, is that once it's rooted, it
has a lot more energy it's tapped into, right?
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The whole, the soil, the earth, other microbes that are in the
ground, fungal things that help it grow.
And then the second year, right,it starts to creep, right?
The phrase says. So it's sort of starts to grow
slowly, right? It starts to elongate, get extra
leaves, get branches growing on that first year wood of the
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plant often, and then the third year is often really when it
like double S, triples, quadruples in size from when you
first got it. So just keep that in mind.
Gardening is a long term project, especially if you're
growing perennial plants, which just means that they don't die
every year. Obviously some perennial plants
will be perennial in some areas and not in others.
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Like I said, where I live, Rosemary definitely perennial
doesn't die in the winter here. It doesn't quite get cold enough
where I live and we have super wet winters, which is what it
likes because that's what it's kind of like in the
Mediterranean, even though it's warmer there than at my house.
But in places where it gets verycold in the winter or right if
you don't have necessarily a lotof water, but you have a lot of
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wind and frost, Rosemary might not do as well there or might
die back some winters and you might have to cut it back or
protect it or sometimes even geta new plant.
So that's all stuff to keep in mind.
A lot of herbs, just like Rosemary, are easy to grow
inside. Also in containers.
Like I said, my rosemary's quitelarge.
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Now I'm trying to think of an explanation of how big it is.
It's probably like 3 feet wide at this point and at least a
foot tall. I made an herb spiral, which is
basically a sort of raised bed, but just for herbs, but sort of
spirals around. I use rocks to make a spiral.
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And then what you do is you haveplants at the top of the spiral.
So you sort of build up the soilin the middle to be the tallest
and at the edge to be the most shallow.
And you sort of put your plants that really like sun and need
better drainage, again, like a Rosemary plant at the top.
And then you sort of use the shade and other parts of the
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spiral, of the herb spiral to sort of, yeah, basically have a,
a culinary place for all your herbs to go.
And so I have Rosemary, oregano,multiple kinds of thyme.
I have parsley. I have some weirder things like
tarragon or marjoram or Curry aswell.
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Sometimes I have basil or other things that are a little like a
little bit wetter, but they're hard for me to keep alive in the
herb spiral. And that's a thing that's
definitely not perennial for me.Maybe if you live in California
or a place where it stays prettywarm in the winter, you can have
basil or most herbs perennnially, but that's just to
keep in mind. So yeah, again, it's a woodier
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plant. It has green kind of like
leaves, although, of course, that's the part that we eat.
You can't eat the flowers sometimes.
Again, they are put on like fancy salads at a restaurant.
I would say they pretty much just taste like Rosemary.
They're quite small. But sometimes people will at a
fancy restaurant, they'll use like tweezers to like place
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Rosemary flowers onto a salad or, you know, maybe bread or
something like that. And then again, it gets used
culinarily a lot as a common herb, either dried or fresh,
often fresh because it is sort of a resinous plant, which just
means like it doesn't necessarily have a lot of water
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in it. It has, again, more of like
ASAP, like a resin, like a tree resin type of thing.
So it is like if you were to break one of the little leaves
in half, it would be kind of like sticky versus just like wet
anyway. And yeah, so it sort of has
these green leaves. They're very small, which again,
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is good and common in like a Mediterranean climate where,
again, you get a lot of water atone time a year and then another
time of year. Like where I live, it's very
dry. We don't really get any rain for
three to four months in a row. And so we're into that point of
the year now where I am, where we're probably done with the
rain until like September and I'm recording this July 8th.
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So we're in like the next probably 3 months of no rain.
And so those smaller leaves thatdon't have a lot of water in
them can survive during the winter.
If you've ever been to a desert or very hot places that are not
humid, don't have a lot of waterin the air, a lot of the plants
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are very like waxy or small or resinous because that helps them
survive during the extreme heat and very little water.
So like in areas of the southwest of the US, if you go
anywhere else, that sort of desert like that is more common
there. OK, I've talked a lot about the
plant description, even though you probably know what it looks
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like. So let's move into the plant
magic aspect of it. Yeah, so like I said, some of
the associations or correspondences with Rosemary.
So I will be referencing the Parting the Miss blog that talks
about this deck. The Herb Crafters Tarot is what
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this one's from by author Leticia Guthrie and artist
Joanna Paul Colbert. So it's a blog talking about
different tarot cards. And so this is the tarot card
they're talking about. But for this is Rosemary.
So it says Rosemary is associated with the mind for
communication and listening helps sharpen the mind and as
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well as flavor food, obviously. Let's see.
It says it's a wild and unruly Rosemary Bush grows on the side
of a garden shed. We see in this like tarot card
that they have here sort of a blue shed with some tools on the
side of it. You see the Rosemary and you see
someone like holding it with small purple flowers, like I
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said. And it says an old woman grips a
bundle of fresh springs in her hand, her arm decorated with a
faded wing tattoo that she offers up to the sky.
And this tarot card in this deckis called Kurandera of Air.
And Kurandera, I believe, is like healer.
And so that is what this is associated with in this
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particular the Herb Crafters tarot.
So there's a lot of wisdom when I talk about the tarot card
associated with it. We get into more like memories,
which again, all of this is about that like mental acuity,
right? Which again, if you think about
the Rosemary when you eat it or use it medicinally helps your
blood flow like that helps us think more clearly.
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It enhances cognitive function. It wakes us up a little bit.
You're heard the mind is sharp and quick, but it but they
really associate Rosemary as sort of like, again, like as its
presence. If we think about like plants as
being that they all have their own presence and that they have
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their own stories and philosophies and different
things or, or that they all are each their own like sort of
wisdom. Like they explain her as like a
grandmother basically. She's a good listener.
She's still, you know, cognitively thinking of all
those things. She's learned a lot.
People are drawn to her honesty.It says just as Rosemary clears
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the mind, it also brings clarityand inspires peace.
And so, yeah, it says you can. So there's lots of different
things to do with Rosemary, but you can sort of use it in that
way. Again, if you use essential oils
at all and you have Rosemary, you can use it when you're
trying to, you know, get shit done.
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I would say if you're trying to get stuff done at work, if
you're trying to wake up in the morning, like it can be used for
that. Of course, you can also like eat
the plant in that way or you know, the herb in the morning or
things like that. It's just a gun.
Usually when you're essential oils are very heavily
concentrated. That's why they're called that.
And say again, you'd have to eata lot of Rosemary for it to sort
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of get to the level in which like it is used medicinally.
But yeah, so that is some of it we're also going to talk about.
But also is I going to say with a Rosemary here?
Well, maybe that's it. I'll let make sure and look at
my references to see if there was anything else to talk about.
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No, I think that's it for now. So let's get into its relation
to the tarot and then we'll get into some uses for the plant.
So I tried to look it up. There was nothing in particular.
So like I said, I found decks that have Rosemary in them like
an herbal deck, a botanical deck, this herb crafters tarot
deck, which seems very cool, which I like.
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And I definitely want to get a botanical or herbal duck,
especially after doing this season.
But I'll have to see if I can find one.
But I did find the herb shop in Portland has a website in
Portland, OR and so they have a blog post about the six of cups
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with the herbal pairing of Rosemary.
So when I found that I went and pulled a bunch of my 6 of cups
cards. So I pulled it from the Desert
Illuminations tarot deck, the Therapist Who tarot deck, the
Ophidia Rosa tarot deck, and theSasserbito tarot deck.
And all of those will be LinkedIn my references for this
episode. But like I said, so I pulled
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those cards and we do get themesof memories and sort of this
floating ethereal thing. There is like a groundedness,
even though this is a cups card.So cups are generally more about
fluidity and emotion. Although I guess a lot of our
memories and things we think about are emotional.
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So maybe this makes sense. I was going to read from the
Desert Illuminations Tarot deck for this car because I thought
it was seemed very resonant withwhat I was reading about
Rosemary, so let me find that. So in this deck the cups are
depicted as jugs. So they're talking about on this
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card. A flirtatious cowpoke couple is
hanging out in their yard filledwith a garden of blooming cactus
jugs. Behind them, a big rainbow
appears in the sky over their humble Adobe home after a desert
rainstorm. This card is about enjoyment,
nostalgia, and memories. There is harmony in your
relationships and much joy is happening around you.
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Embrace your inner child. Plant a garden, squeeze your
loved ones, go outside in the sunshine and soak up some
vitamin D Exercise your creativity and perhaps visit a
revisit a hobby you've enjoyed as a child.
Dance in the rain, go wild. Make sure that you are tapping
into positive nostalgia, the kind that fills your heart with
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happiness. It's so important to have a
sense of play at times, otherwise we can get caught up
in the boring and mundane aspects of life.
So I do feel like that gives very similar energy to what I
was reading about in the Corondera Rosemary, Corondera of
Air Rosemary card that is in theHerb Crafters Tarot deck, which
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is that it has this like wiseness about it, but also in a
way of like not taking anything too seriously, right?
Like if you've lived a long time, you're going to be like,
yeah, everything will be fine, right?
Like you have the sort of like wisdom about you.
And also you've seen a lot of things, right?
You're able to tell like what's important and what's not.
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And again, Rosemary's all about clarity, so right, clearing the
mind, but also just like clarityof intention, I would say as
well. Yeah.
So that is sort of what I saw there.
So like I said, on these different decks we have, there's
no Rosemary depicted, although Idid look through some of my more
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botanical decks, like the Fidia Rosa one.
But we get a lot of plant energy.
Three of these cards have plantson them.
Of the ones I pulled from three different decks, like I said,
they're sort of memory, nostalgia, like inner child,
like lightness to the cards. And I would say I really feel
that with Rosemary as well. I use Rosemary a lot in cooking.
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It's really good with like root vegetables, so like carrots,
potatoes, roasted like that I will often make because I have a
large plant of it. I will if I'm home, like I just
pick fresh Rosemary and chop it up and use it in dishes.
But if I'm giving it to someone else and they don't necessarily
want a plant of Rosemary, then Iwill make herbal salt for them.
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Which is just usually you take like one part herb, one part
salt and you blend it up in a blender and then it's basically
like you have a infused salt to use with food and Rosemary
because it is kind of resinous. If you do cook it like on a
grill, like it can be common forpeople to like if you go to a
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fancy steakhouse, they'll put itlike they'll put it on top of
the steak as they're sort of like grilling it to infuse some
flavor. But it does often like get
burned because it is sort of like oily resinous like it can
catch on fire or things like that and get very burnt easily.
And so I don't always love to use like the fresh plant if it's
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something where it's going to catch again like in roasting.
If it's on a lower temp, it can be okay or on the grill.
But often I will use this herbalsalt like on meats or like I
said again on root vegetables, I'll use that in salads, like
put it in dressing. Yeah, it's good on a lot of
things. So that's like another way that
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you can you can interact with the Rosemary.
So yeah, let's get into some more uses.
So I'm pulling from my lovely giant book, the Hearth Witches
Compendium. Magical and natural living for
every day. So I'll read their sort of
correspondences with Rosemary that they talk about for magical
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herbalism, and then I'll share acouple of different ways they
say to use it. There were actually like 20
references to Rosemary in this book, so I will not be sharing
all of them in all the differentrecipes, but I picked out some
fun ones. So like I said, Rosemary, it
says it's associated with the mind and memory, concentration,
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meditation, healing, love, marriage, births, funerals,
memorial services, protection, dispelling negativity and evil,
attracting fairies, spells designed to retain youth, ruled
by the sun, the element of fire,and the Zodiac sign of Aries.
So I am in a very sunny time of year.
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We are not in a fire sign right now where I am, but of course
the sun is fiery and it's hot where I am right now.
So that definitely feels resonant.
I also looked up that I was trying to look at what day to
post this on, because there are certain days of the week that
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have their own magical correspondences.
So Thursday, right, In English, it's associated with Thor's day,
which is also associated with Jupiter.
And so Jupiter is also, I guess,associated with Rosemary.
And because of these sort of like some of the
correspondences, but also some of the colors like you have the
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green, the blue or purple flowers, those are all colors
associated with Jupiter. And again, that's like
associated with Thursdays. So it can be fun to do.
Like again, if you don't have Rosemary, you can pull some 6 of
cups cards to get a vibe, or youcan go get some Rosemary or get
a plant. You can pull green or blue
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crystals or other crystals that might have the energy of
Rosemary or sort of that claritycutting through things, which
right, like fire signs, again, can kind of really be more
associated with that than than water necessarily.
But also, yeah, I don't remember.
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I was going with that. OK, let's look at some more uses
for Rosemary. So again, in this book, they
have culinary uses. They have like bath and body
product uses. So they talk about that you can
make. So because rosemary's
antimicrobial, it gets used in cleaning things sometimes.
So in this one in the witch's home section of the book, they
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talk about you can make an anti insect potpourri which has 2
tablespoons of dried mint leaves, 2 tablespoons of dried
sage, 2 tablespoons of dried Wormwood and two tablespoons of
dried Rosemary and one tablespoon of dried lemon peel.
And you mix the herbs together and put them in a shallow bowl
in a warm place to discourage insects.
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And you can discard them when the scent is gone.
So that's like, right, a very natural and sort of passive way
to discourage insects from that area, which is kind of cool.
Another one that I pulled was this thing called bath tea bags,
which is basically just like putting herbs in a cloth, like
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muslin, cheesecloth or fabric ofsome kind or like a laundry bag
and then putting it in your bathto sort of infuse different
things in your bath. So instead of using like a bath
bomb or bath salts, which you could also put Rosemary in, you
can just like put the leaves of different things in a like in a
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tea bag I've done before. Or if you have like a cloth bag
of any kind, you can put them inthere.
So there's one in here that says17th century bath bag, which
like love that it says one part roses, one part orange peel, one
part orange flowers, one part Jasmine, one part Bay leaves,
one part Rosemary, one part lavender and one part mint.
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And I bet that smells really good.
Rosemary also has this like a stringent quality to it.
So if you do use it in like skincare or anything, just be
mindful of that. And that just means that it's
sort of like, I'm like, what does astringent mean?
I sort of know what I think it means, but I don't know exactly
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what the word itself, like, whatthe aspects of the word mean.
But it's sort of like, pulls moisture out of places.
That's what I'm thinking of. But now I feel the need to look
it up. Astringent, a chemical that
shrinks or constructs body tissues.
OK, yeah. So some people would use it as
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like a toner, probably because that is like another like that's
the quality you want and like a facial toner.
But I'm here again, the in a natural beauty section, it talks
about Rosemary like you can use it as an oil.
It prevents hair loss, strengthens the hair, adds
luster to dark hair and smooths damaged hair shafts.
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It's also useful for treating acne, which again, I imagine is
sort of like a toner aspect of it.
And it says avoid Rosemary essential oil during pregnancy.
So again, I'm not quite sure what that's about, Probably
about the blood circulation aspect of it.
So again, always beware. And if you're just eating a
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little bit of Rosemary, like it's probably fine, you don't
need to worry too much. But again, if you're trying to
consume Rosemary at a medicinal level or putting it in your skin
care or other like ingesting it in other ways, putting it on
your body, just be mindful of that.
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Like I said. Oh yeah, I did find this other
in the herb shop PDX blog. They talked about the six of
cops and Rosemary shows us the power that memories have on who
we are and where we're going. If we don't define ourselves by
our history or linger too long in nostalgia.
If we can learn from our memories, then they are indeed
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sweet gifts, like white flowers blooming and golden goblets,
which I guess is on the traditional rider Waite Smith
image of the card. 6 goblets filled with bright blooming
white flowers populate the image.
So yeah, that's sort of about the correspondence with Rosemary
there. All right, so that is everything
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I have. So let's go ahead and pull a
card to see what Rosemary has toshare with us and let me grab
one of my ducks. To do that, I'm grabbing the
Goddess of Love Tarot Duck by Gabriella Herstick and
illustrated by Julia Pappescu, one of the few ducks that I
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didn't use for today's altar. And I'll give it a quick shuffle
here. So Rosemary, what do you want us
to know? Do you have any other
information you want to share with us?
Is there anything we need to keep in mind?
Is there anything that's going to help us with our clarity or
not getting too stuck in nostalgia or in the past and
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finding, you know, being able toembrace our inner child and play
in a lightness in in our day? Today I pulled the hanged one,
also known as the Hanged Man. I haven't pulled this card in a
long time. I love it though.
I used to pull it a lot. Let's find it.
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It's also a very pretty card in the stack.
It's like a person hanging upside down like it generally
is. But the person has this like I
have maybe calendula flowered like sash on them and the crown.
There's dolphins and a porpoise and there's like waves at their
head and then the tree at their feet.
And then they're holding a rose and a heart, which I'm like,
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great vibes. So yeah, it says the God is
associated with this card. And this deck is ocean, and the
elemental correspondence is water.
It says this card is all about to be of service through the
heart as a constant reawakening to beauty and truth.
But to get to this clarity is dizzying and comes with an
unexpected vantage point. The Hanged Man is a card of
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intensity, often represented as a figure hanging from their
ankles but surrounded by a Halo of golden light.
This is the awakening that comeswith surrender.
The Hanged Man has the elementalcorrespondence of water and thus
is tied to Ocean, the Europin Spirit or Orisha of the
Sweetwater, whose love helped bring the universe into
creation. Water baptizes, washes away, and
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generates. A new ocean is a spirit of
compassion and vibrance, the shining diamond after it has
been polished as a river goddessassociated with fertility and
purification. Ocean embodies the vision of
clarity of mind through release and how this can lead to
rebirth, blessings and new beginnings.
As the Hanged One, this card is a baptism of rebirth, love and
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wisdom. The Goddess is gently nudging
you to see things from a different perspective, perhaps
from the heart or the body instead of the mind.
The Hanged 1 illuminates the power of love to wash away all
wounds and to shape your evolution, not by rejecting
feelings or pain, but by seeing them as a gift to an
understanding of your devotion and your heart.
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So the affirmation associated with this card is my heart is
washed anew with the sweet magicof love.
And the journal question says what can I view with fresh eyes
and how can I surrender and findGoddess wisdom through it?
So very funny to me that this talked about the heart clarity,
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right? All of these things that are
associated with Rosemary, even the fertility and rebirth aspect
of it. I know there's some
correspondence of it being aboutlike birth or rebirth, right?
This baptism, the love, the wisdom, that's all there.
So it sounds like, yeah, we justgot to keep that in mind.
And also this wateriness of it, right, that Rosemary wouldn't
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necessarily think to associate with water.
But that is what kind of keeps coming up.
In this card, in the six of Cupscards, purification, sort of the
surrender aspect and also ocean,right?
The goddess ocean in this deck is what's depicted here, which
all again is like a river goddess, so also associated with
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episode. All right, so welcome to season
11 here where I'm talking all about tarot and plant allies.
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OK, so like I said, we are in season 11 now where I'm talking
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all about tarot and plant allies.
And today I'm talking about tarot and the plant Rosemary.
So we're going to go through a couple of things in this
episode, a plant description. We're going to talk about plant
magic with Rosemary. We're going to talk about its
relation to the tarot, and then we're going to talk about some
uses of Rosemary. Unlike maybe some of the other
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plants I've talked about thus far, Rosemary is probably a
plant you're familiar with, or at least an herb you're familiar
with. Rosemary.
I was reading some history on the plant of Rosemary, and some
say that it was first documentedas being cultivated 5000 years
ago, I believe, so that is quitea long time.
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It's originally comes from the Mediterranean area and so it
does like that sort of climate, which often means wet in winter,
dry in summer, which actually even though I live in the
Pacific Northwest of the US, it thrives here.
Lots of people where I live havewhat I would call old, old
growth Rosemary. It doesn't die in the winter
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time here. It doesn't get cold enough where
I live. And so people have really thick
tree like looking Rosemary, or at least Bush like looking
Rosemary as just often as just an ornamental plant.
Umm, but again, so maybe you're familiar with the herb of
Rosemary. Maybe you've never seen the
whole plant though. So I will have a photo from the
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medicinal herb coloring book that I've referenced in a couple
other episodes. So Rosemary, also known as
Romarinas officionalis officianalis, is a Latin name.
So Rosemary perennial herb native to the Mediterranean,
grown in gardens all over the world.
However, Rosemary is a warming circulatory stimulant and has
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been used to treat issues such as varicose veins, chilblains
and arteriosclerosis, which is thickening and hardening of the
walls of the arteries. Rosemary stimulates blood flow
to the head, making it useful for headaches and migraines as
well as with short term memory and focus.
Rosemary can also help stimulatemenstruation and relieve spasms.
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The essential oil is antimicrobial and useful in a
first aid context. If you're allergic to aspirin, a
hemophiliac, using pharmaceutical anticoagulants,
or about to have a surgical procedure, don't use Rosemary.
Discontinue use if the blood flow to your head causes you any
discomfort. So a lot of these things, I will
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get into some of the plant magicpart of it, but Rosemary as an
essential oil and also as a plant is often seen as good for
clarity. Again, bringing blood flow to
your head, so sort of helping you think or focus.
So it's not necessarily a calming plant, right?
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Wouldn't necessarily want to be,I guess using the essential oil
in maybe the evening when you'retrying to go to sleep, unlike
some other ones. But it is the sort of, again,
it's a warming circulatory stimulant.
So it gets their blood flow going.
And again, that's part of why ifyou're on some other medication
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can be harmful. If you're consuming Rosemary at
a medicinal level, generally consuming plants on a medicinal
level means a lot of the plant more than you would ever use
culinarily, unless you're literally eating the same thing
for every single meal for like aweek or two.
So just keep that in mind. And again, I am not giving out
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herbalist advice or telling you to use any of these plants as
medicine without the advisement of a healthcare professional.
So keep that in mind. We're talking generally about,
again, the plant itself, you know, magic associated with it,
the relation to tarot and some, you know, culinary or maybe
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topical uses for Rosemary. So again, in the plant
description, if you've never seen the whole plant before, I
have a large plant of it. Like I said, it grows very well
in my climate and I would say itlooks like Medusa.
If you know the sort of traditional depiction of Medusa
where it's like curly, like sortof wild curly hair that turn
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into snakes at the end. The I would say that's the vibe
of a Rosemary plant. It's sort of shrubby.
It grows on. So I'll have old wood that's
like brown and then it will get new growth all the time.
So the picture I have today thatI'll put with the podcast is
some older growth of it. And that is what flowered
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recently for me. It actually now has part of the
seed heads are dried up. So if you wanted to, you can you
could start Rosemary from seed from this plant.
Generally, most herbs are very challenging to start from seed.
It's kind of like I was talking about last episode with evening
primrose that a lot of the plants that grow really well in
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almost any climate and almost any condition are actually often
very challenging to start from seed.
So generally with herbs, taking cuttings, which just means
cutting off a snippet of it, usually of a woodier part of the
plant, and then sticking it in dirt and hoping it roots, that's
like what a cutting is, and thenbeing able to grow that plant
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larger. So cuttings are clones of a
plant, right? You're taking the part of that
exact plant and you're cutting apiece off and then you're trying
to grow it bigger in your own location, in your own soil or in
your own in water sometimes to propagate it.
Whereas if you had the seeds from the plant, it is going to
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be genetically different perhaps.
So, you know, interesting information about plants.
Let's see here. So, yeah, the plant is generally
green or sometimes like a greenish blue when it flowers.
That has, at least on my Bush, sort of like tiny purpley blue
flowers. Like I said at the part in the
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summer that I am at right now, those flowers have dried up and
they've turned into seed heads, which are hard.
And so actually, if I crush someof them, I can find the tiny
little seeds that are in there. So, you know, in theory, the
Rosemary could spread throughoutmy yard.
It hasn't yet. Other things spread a lot more
easily. So it definitely does better
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from a cutting, I would say. So if you want a Rosemary plant,
you don't want to buy one. If you have a friend or anyone
else you know that has a plant, you can ask them to take a
cutting for you or when you're over at their house, you know,
get consent. But you can take a cutting of
their plant. You can bring it home, put it in
some soil. You can look up how to root
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cuttings online. There's some things that help
with it. Make sure it's well watered and
hope that roots grow and then itwill grow its own plant anyway.
Perennial plants take a long time to grow big, usually takes
about three years from when you start the plant to when it does
very well and starts really growing once it's established.
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There's this phrase that they say about plants from seed or
from a very small seedling. I'm trying to remember what it
is. So it's like year one it creeps,
year 2, it leaps, year three. I'm going to have to look it up
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now. OK, I looked it up.
So the phrase is the first year it sleeps, the second year it
creeps, the third year it leaps.So often if you get a plant,
even if you get it from, you know, a garden store or a
nursery or something like that, even if it's fairly large and
established, it usually will notreally grow much visibly on the
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surface in the first year. Even if you have great soil,
even if you're doing all the right things, like it's often
going to look like it's the samesize, right?
You kept it alive. Yay, we love that.
But what is happening is that it's putting down roots right
underneath the ground, which we can't necessarily see, but
that's what you want a plant to do, is that once it's rooted, it
has a lot more energy it's tapped into, right?
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The whole, the soil, the earth, other microbes that are in the
ground, fungal things that help it grow.
And then the second year, right,it starts to creep, right?
The phrase says. So it's sort of starts to grow
slowly, right? It starts to elongate, get extra
leaves, get branches growing on that first year wood of the
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plant often, and then the third year is often really when it
like double S, triples, quadruples in size from when you
first got it. So just keep that in mind.
Gardening is a long term project, especially if you're
growing perennial plants, which just means that they don't die
every year. Obviously some perennial plants
will be perennial in some areas and not in others.
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Like I said, where I live, Rosemary definitely perennial
doesn't die in the winter here. It doesn't quite get cold enough
where I live and we have super wet winters, which is what it
likes because that's what it's kind of like in the
Mediterranean, even though it's warmer there than at my house.
But in places where it gets verycold in the winter or right if
you don't have necessarily a lotof water, but you have a lot of
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wind and frost, Rosemary might not do as well there or might
die back some winters and you might have to cut it back or
protect it or sometimes even geta new plant.
So that's all stuff to keep in mind.
A lot of herbs, just like Rosemary, are easy to grow
inside. Also in containers.
Like I said, my rosemary's quitelarge.
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Now I'm trying to think of an explanation of how big it is.
It's probably like 3 feet wide at this point and at least a
foot tall. I made an herb spiral, which is
basically a sort of raised bed, but just for herbs, but sort of
spirals around. I use rocks to make a spiral.
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And then what you do is you haveplants at the top of the spiral.
So you sort of build up the soilin the middle to be the tallest
and at the edge to be the most shallow.
And you sort of put your plants that really like sun and need
better drainage, again, like a Rosemary plant at the top.
And then you sort of use the shade and other parts of the
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spiral, of the herb spiral to sort of, yeah, basically have a,
a culinary place for all your herbs to go.
And so I have Rosemary, oregano,multiple kinds of thyme.
I have parsley. I have some weirder things like
tarragon or marjoram or Curry aswell.
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Sometimes I have basil or other things that are a little like a
little bit wetter, but they're hard for me to keep alive in the
herb spiral. And that's a thing that's
definitely not perennial for me.Maybe if you live in California
or a place where it stays prettywarm in the winter, you can have
basil or most herbs perennnially, but that's just to
keep in mind. So yeah, again, it's a woodier
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plant. It has green kind of like
leaves, although, of course, that's the part that we eat.
You can't eat the flowers sometimes.
Again, they are put on like fancy salads at a restaurant.
I would say they pretty much just taste like Rosemary.
They're quite small. But sometimes people will at a
fancy restaurant, they'll use like tweezers to like place
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Rosemary flowers onto a salad or, you know, maybe bread or
something like that. And then again, it gets used
culinarily a lot as a common herb, either dried or fresh,
often fresh because it is sort of a resinous plant, which just
means like it doesn't necessarily have a lot of water
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in it. It has, again, more of like
ASAP, like a resin, like a tree resin type of thing.
So it is like if you were to break one of the little leaves
in half, it would be kind of like sticky versus just like wet
anyway. And yeah, so it sort of has
these green leaves. They're very small, which again,
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is good and common in like a Mediterranean climate where,
again, you get a lot of water atone time a year and then another
time of year. Like where I live, it's very
dry. We don't really get any rain for
three to four months in a row. And so we're into that point of
the year now where I am, where we're probably done with the
rain until like September and I'm recording this July 8th.
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So we're in like the next probably 3 months of no rain.
And so those smaller leaves thatdon't have a lot of water in
them can survive during the winter.
If you've ever been to a desert or very hot places that are not
humid, don't have a lot of waterin the air, a lot of the plants
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are very like waxy or small or resinous because that helps them
survive during the extreme heat and very little water.
So like in areas of the southwest of the US, if you go
anywhere else, that sort of desert like that is more common
there. OK, I've talked a lot about the
plant description, even though you probably know what it looks
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like. So let's move into the plant
magic aspect of it. Yeah, so like I said, some of
the associations or correspondences with Rosemary.
So I will be referencing the Parting the Miss blog that talks
about this deck. The Herb Crafters Tarot is what
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this one's from by author Leticia Guthrie and artist
Joanna Paul Colbert. So it's a blog talking about
different tarot cards. And so this is the tarot card
they're talking about. But for this is Rosemary.
So it says Rosemary is associated with the mind for
communication and listening helps sharpen the mind and as
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well as flavor food, obviously. Let's see.
It says it's a wild and unruly Rosemary Bush grows on the side
of a garden shed. We see in this like tarot card
that they have here sort of a blue shed with some tools on the
side of it. You see the Rosemary and you see
someone like holding it with small purple flowers, like I
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said. And it says an old woman grips a
bundle of fresh springs in her hand, her arm decorated with a
faded wing tattoo that she offers up to the sky.
And this tarot card in this deckis called Kurandera of Air.
And Kurandera, I believe, is like healer.
And so that is what this is associated with in this
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particular the Herb Crafters tarot.
So there's a lot of wisdom when I talk about the tarot card
associated with it. We get into more like memories,
which again, all of this is about that like mental acuity,
right? Which again, if you think about
the Rosemary when you eat it or use it medicinally helps your
blood flow like that helps us think more clearly.
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It enhances cognitive function. It wakes us up a little bit.
You're heard the mind is sharp and quick, but it but they
really associate Rosemary as sort of like, again, like as its
presence. If we think about like plants as
being that they all have their own presence and that they have
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their own stories and philosophies and different
things or, or that they all are each their own like sort of
wisdom. Like they explain her as like a
grandmother basically. She's a good listener.
She's still, you know, cognitively thinking of all
those things. She's learned a lot.
People are drawn to her honesty.It says just as Rosemary clears
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the mind, it also brings clarityand inspires peace.
And so, yeah, it says you can. So there's lots of different
things to do with Rosemary, but you can sort of use it in that
way. Again, if you use essential oils
at all and you have Rosemary, you can use it when you're
trying to, you know, get shit done.
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I would say if you're trying to get stuff done at work, if
you're trying to wake up in the morning, like it can be used for
that. Of course, you can also like eat
the plant in that way or you know, the herb in the morning or
things like that. It's just a gun.
Usually when you're essential oils are very heavily
concentrated. That's why they're called that.
And say again, you'd have to eata lot of Rosemary for it to sort
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of get to the level in which like it is used medicinally.
But yeah, so that is some of it we're also going to talk about.
But also is I going to say with a Rosemary here?
Well, maybe that's it. I'll let make sure and look at
my references to see if there was anything else to talk about.
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No, I think that's it for now. So let's get into its relation
to the tarot and then we'll get into some uses for the plant.
So I tried to look it up. There was nothing in particular.
So like I said, I found decks that have Rosemary in them like
an herbal deck, a botanical deck, this herb crafters tarot
deck, which seems very cool, which I like.
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And I definitely want to get a botanical or herbal duck,
especially after doing this season.
But I'll have to see if I can find one.
But I did find the herb shop in Portland has a website in
Portland, OR and so they have a blog post about the six of cups
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with the herbal pairing of Rosemary.
So when I found that I went and pulled a bunch of my 6 of cups
cards. So I pulled it from the Desert
Illuminations tarot deck, the Therapist Who tarot deck, the
Ophidia Rosa tarot deck, and theSasserbito tarot deck.
And all of those will be LinkedIn my references for this
episode. But like I said, so I pulled
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those cards and we do get themesof memories and sort of this
floating ethereal thing. There is like a groundedness,
even though this is a cups card.So cups are generally more about
fluidity and emotion. Although I guess a lot of our
memories and things we think about are emotional.
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So maybe this makes sense. I was going to read from the
Desert Illuminations Tarot deck for this car because I thought
it was seemed very resonant withwhat I was reading about
Rosemary, so let me find that. So in this deck the cups are
depicted as jugs. So they're talking about on this
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card. A flirtatious cowpoke couple is
hanging out in their yard filledwith a garden of blooming cactus
jugs. Behind them, a big rainbow
appears in the sky over their humble Adobe home after a desert
rainstorm. This card is about enjoyment,
nostalgia, and memories. There is harmony in your
relationships and much joy is happening around you.
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Embrace your inner child. Plant a garden, squeeze your
loved ones, go outside in the sunshine and soak up some
vitamin D Exercise your creativity and perhaps visit a
revisit a hobby you've enjoyed as a child.
Dance in the rain, go wild. Make sure that you are tapping
into positive nostalgia, the kind that fills your heart with
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happiness. It's so important to have a
sense of play at times, otherwise we can get caught up
in the boring and mundane aspects of life.
So I do feel like that gives very similar energy to what I
was reading about in the Corondera Rosemary, Corondera of
Air Rosemary card that is in theHerb Crafters Tarot deck, which
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is that it has this like wiseness about it, but also in a
way of like not taking anything too seriously, right?
Like if you've lived a long time, you're going to be like,
yeah, everything will be fine, right?
Like you have the sort of like wisdom about you.
And also you've seen a lot of things, right?
You're able to tell like what's important and what's not.
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And again, Rosemary's all about clarity, so right, clearing the
mind, but also just like clarityof intention, I would say as
well. Yeah.
So that is sort of what I saw there.
So like I said, on these different decks we have, there's
no Rosemary depicted, although Idid look through some of my more
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botanical decks, like the Fidia Rosa one.
But we get a lot of plant energy.
Three of these cards have plantson them.
Of the ones I pulled from three different decks, like I said,
they're sort of memory, nostalgia, like inner child,
like lightness to the cards. And I would say I really feel
that with Rosemary as well. I use Rosemary a lot in cooking.
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It's really good with like root vegetables, so like carrots,
potatoes, roasted like that I will often make because I have a
large plant of it. I will if I'm home, like I just
pick fresh Rosemary and chop it up and use it in dishes.
But if I'm giving it to someone else and they don't necessarily
want a plant of Rosemary, then Iwill make herbal salt for them.
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Which is just usually you take like one part herb, one part
salt and you blend it up in a blender and then it's basically
like you have a infused salt to use with food and Rosemary
because it is kind of resinous. If you do cook it like on a
grill, like it can be common forpeople to like if you go to a
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fancy steakhouse, they'll put itlike they'll put it on top of
the steak as they're sort of like grilling it to infuse some
flavor. But it does often like get
burned because it is sort of like oily resinous like it can
catch on fire or things like that and get very burnt easily.
And so I don't always love to use like the fresh plant if it's
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something where it's going to catch again like in roasting.
If it's on a lower temp, it can be okay or on the grill.
But often I will use this herbalsalt like on meats or like I
said again on root vegetables, I'll use that in salads, like
put it in dressing. Yeah, it's good on a lot of
things. So that's like another way that
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you can you can interact with the Rosemary.
So yeah, let's get into some more uses.
So I'm pulling from my lovely giant book, the Hearth Witches
Compendium. Magical and natural living for
every day. So I'll read their sort of
correspondences with Rosemary that they talk about for magical
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herbalism, and then I'll share acouple of different ways they
say to use it. There were actually like 20
references to Rosemary in this book, so I will not be sharing
all of them in all the differentrecipes, but I picked out some
fun ones. So like I said, Rosemary, it
says it's associated with the mind and memory, concentration,
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meditation, healing, love, marriage, births, funerals,
memorial services, protection, dispelling negativity and evil,
attracting fairies, spells designed to retain youth, ruled
by the sun, the element of fire,and the Zodiac sign of Aries.
So I am in a very sunny time of year.
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We are not in a fire sign right now where I am, but of course
the sun is fiery and it's hot where I am right now.
So that definitely feels resonant.
I also looked up that I was trying to look at what day to
post this on, because there are certain days of the week that
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have their own magical correspondences.
So Thursday, right, In English, it's associated with Thor's day,
which is also associated with Jupiter.
And so Jupiter is also, I guess,associated with Rosemary.
And because of these sort of like some of the
correspondences, but also some of the colors like you have the
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green, the blue or purple flowers, those are all colors
associated with Jupiter. And again, that's like
associated with Thursdays. So it can be fun to do.
Like again, if you don't have Rosemary, you can pull some 6 of
cups cards to get a vibe, or youcan go get some Rosemary or get
a plant. You can pull green or blue
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crystals or other crystals that might have the energy of
Rosemary or sort of that claritycutting through things, which
right, like fire signs, again, can kind of really be more
associated with that than than water necessarily.
But also, yeah, I don't remember.
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I was going with that. OK, let's look at some more uses
for Rosemary. So again, in this book, they
have culinary uses. They have like bath and body
product uses. So they talk about that you can
make. So because rosemary's
antimicrobial, it gets used in cleaning things sometimes.
So in this one in the witch's home section of the book, they
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talk about you can make an anti insect potpourri which has 2
tablespoons of dried mint leaves, 2 tablespoons of dried
sage, 2 tablespoons of dried Wormwood and two tablespoons of
dried Rosemary and one tablespoon of dried lemon peel.
And you mix the herbs together and put them in a shallow bowl
in a warm place to discourage insects.
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And you can discard them when the scent is gone.
So that's like, right, a very natural and sort of passive way
to discourage insects from that area, which is kind of cool.
Another one that I pulled was this thing called bath tea bags,
which is basically just like putting herbs in a cloth, like
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muslin, cheesecloth or fabric ofsome kind or like a laundry bag
and then putting it in your bathto sort of infuse different
things in your bath. So instead of using like a bath
bomb or bath salts, which you could also put Rosemary in, you
can just like put the leaves of different things in a like in a
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tea bag I've done before. Or if you have like a cloth bag
of any kind, you can put them inthere.
So there's one in here that says17th century bath bag, which
like love that it says one part roses, one part orange peel, one
part orange flowers, one part Jasmine, one part Bay leaves,
one part Rosemary, one part lavender and one part mint.
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And I bet that smells really good.
Rosemary also has this like a stringent quality to it.
So if you do use it in like skincare or anything, just be
mindful of that. And that just means that it's
sort of like, I'm like, what does astringent mean?
I sort of know what I think it means, but I don't know exactly
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what the word itself, like, whatthe aspects of the word mean.
But it's sort of like, pulls moisture out of places.
That's what I'm thinking of. But now I feel the need to look
it up. Astringent, a chemical that
shrinks or constructs body tissues.
OK, yeah. So some people would use it as
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like a toner, probably because that is like another like that's
the quality you want and like a facial toner.
But I'm here again, the in a natural beauty section, it talks
about Rosemary like you can use it as an oil.
It prevents hair loss, strengthens the hair, adds
luster to dark hair and smooths damaged hair shafts.
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It's also useful for treating acne, which again, I imagine is
sort of like a toner aspect of it.
And it says avoid Rosemary essential oil during pregnancy.
So again, I'm not quite sure what that's about, Probably
about the blood circulation aspect of it.
So again, always beware. And if you're just eating a
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little bit of Rosemary, like it's probably fine, you don't
need to worry too much. But again, if you're trying to
consume Rosemary at a medicinal level or putting it in your skin
care or other like ingesting it in other ways, putting it on
your body, just be mindful of that.
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Like I said. Oh yeah, I did find this other
in the herb shop PDX blog. They talked about the six of
cops and Rosemary shows us the power that memories have on who
we are and where we're going. If we don't define ourselves by
our history or linger too long in nostalgia.
If we can learn from our memories, then they are indeed
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sweet gifts, like white flowers blooming and golden goblets,
which I guess is on the traditional rider Waite Smith
image of the card. 6 goblets filled with bright blooming
white flowers populate the image.
So yeah, that's sort of about the correspondence with Rosemary
there. All right, so that is everything
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I have. So let's go ahead and pull a
card to see what Rosemary has toshare with us and let me grab
one of my ducks. To do that, I'm grabbing the
Goddess of Love Tarot Duck by Gabriella Herstick and
illustrated by Julia Pappescu, one of the few ducks that I
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didn't use for today's altar. And I'll give it a quick shuffle
here. So Rosemary, what do you want us
to know? Do you have any other
information you want to share with us?
Is there anything we need to keep in mind?
Is there anything that's going to help us with our clarity or
not getting too stuck in nostalgia or in the past and
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finding, you know, being able toembrace our inner child and play
in a lightness in in our day? Today I pulled the hanged one,
also known as the Hanged Man. I haven't pulled this card in a
long time. I love it though.
I used to pull it a lot. Let's find it.
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It's also a very pretty card in the stack.
It's like a person hanging upside down like it generally
is. But the person has this like I
have maybe calendula flowered like sash on them and the crown.
There's dolphins and a porpoise and there's like waves at their
head and then the tree at their feet.
And then they're holding a rose and a heart, which I'm like,
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great vibes. So yeah, it says the God is
associated with this card. And this deck is ocean, and the
elemental correspondence is water.
It says this card is all about to be of service through the
heart as a constant reawakening to beauty and truth.
But to get to this clarity is dizzying and comes with an
unexpected vantage point. The Hanged Man is a card of
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intensity, often represented as a figure hanging from their
ankles but surrounded by a Halo of golden light.
This is the awakening that comeswith surrender.
The Hanged Man has the elementalcorrespondence of water and thus
is tied to Ocean, the Europin Spirit or Orisha of the
Sweetwater, whose love helped bring the universe into
creation. Water baptizes, washes away, and
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generates. A new ocean is a spirit of
compassion and vibrance, the shining diamond after it has
been polished as a river goddessassociated with fertility and
purification. Ocean embodies the vision of
clarity of mind through release and how this can lead to
rebirth, blessings and new beginnings.
As the Hanged One, this card is a baptism of rebirth, love and
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wisdom. The Goddess is gently nudging
you to see things from a different perspective, perhaps
from the heart or the body instead of the mind.
The Hanged 1 illuminates the power of love to wash away all
wounds and to shape your evolution, not by rejecting
feelings or pain, but by seeing them as a gift to an
understanding of your devotion and your heart.
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So the affirmation associated with this card is my heart is
washed anew with the sweet magicof love.
And the journal question says what can I view with fresh eyes
and how can I surrender and findGoddess wisdom through it?
So very funny to me that this talked about the heart clarity,
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right? All of these things that are
associated with Rosemary, even the fertility and rebirth aspect
of it. I know there's some
correspondence of it being aboutlike birth or rebirth, right?
This baptism, the love, the wisdom, that's all there.
So it sounds like, yeah, we justgot to keep that in mind.
And also this wateriness of it, right, that Rosemary wouldn't
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necessarily think to associate with water.
But that is what kind of keeps coming up.
In this card, in the six of Cupscards, purification, sort of the
surrender aspect and also ocean,right?
The goddess ocean in this deck is what's depicted here, which
all again is like a river goddess, so also associated with
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water and moving through it. All right.
So if you would like to join me on a journey of using the Tarot
for transformation, you want a deep dive, you want some more
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Links for the tarot decks I use in this episode will always be
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