Tarot and Wolves

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All right, so today we are in season 12 where I'm talking all
about tarot and animals. If you haven't listened to the
other seasons yet, you can checkthose out.
I did. Season 1 was about tarot basics.
Seasons two and three I went through all the Major Arcana
cards and an overview of the four suits.

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Season 4 I talked to Tarot and pop culture.
Season 5 I went through 13 common tarot spreads.
Season 678 and 9 I went through all of the suit of wands,
Pentacles, Swords, and cups. Season 10 was all about tarot
and witchcraft. Season 11 was Tarot and plant
allies. And like I said we are on to
season 12 where I'm talking about tarot and animals.

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And spoiler alert, next season Iwill be talking about divination
and Tarot in the Harry Potter series.
So today as we get into the tarot and animals, I'm talking
all about tarot and wolves. So I'll go into an animal
description, symbolism, and animal magic and its relation to
the tarot, and then we'll see. Pull a card at the end to see

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what message wolves have for us today.
So if we get into the description, I am pulling this
information here from Wikipedia.Thank you Wikipedia.
So the wolf, also known as Canislupus and Latin, can be called a
Gray wolf or Gray spelled with an E or A, is a canine native to

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Eurasia and North America. There's more than 30 subspecies
of Canis lupus have been recognized, including dogs and
dingoes, though Gray wolves are properly understood include only
naturally occurring wild subspecies.
The wolf is the largest wild extant member of the family

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Canidae, and is further distinguished from the other
Canis species by its less pointed ears and muzzle, as well
as shorter torso and longer tail.
The wolf is nonetheless related closely enough to sell smaller
Canis species like coyotes, golden jackals, and they can
actually produce hybrids together.

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A wolf's fur is usually modeled white, brown, grey, and black,
although some subspecies in the Arctic region may be nearly all
white to blend in. Of all the members of the genus
Canis, the wolf is the most specialized for cooperative game
hunting, as demonstrated by its physical adaptations for
tackling large prey. It has a more social nature and

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highly advanced expressive behavior, including individual
and group howling. If you've ever gotten to hear
wolves howl, it's kind of magical and a little spooky,
which I love. Wolves travel in nuclear
families, consisting of a mated pair accompanied by their
offspring. Offspring might leave to form

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their own packs when they becomesexually mature and in response
to perhaps competition for food within the pack.
Wolves are also territorial, andfights over territory are among
the main causes of mortality. The wolf is mainly A carnivore.
They feed on large wild hoofed animals as well as smaller

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animals. Livestock carry on and garbage.
Single wolves are mated pairs typically have higher success
rates and hunting than do large packs, which is interesting.
Pathogens or parasites, notably rabies, may in fact wolves.
The global wild wolf population is estimated to be about

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300,000. That was in 2003 I and it says
it was considered to be at leastconcerned by the International
Union for Conservation of Nature.
From what I understand, at leastin the United States, wolves
have been heavily haunted and are very few in number at this

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point. There are places in the United
States where there are conservation Centers for wolves,
and also where wolves are starting to be reintroduced back
into the wild after having been haunted.
So wolves have a long history ofinteractions with humans, having
been despised and haunted, especially in pastoral

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communities because of their attacks on livestock.
But actually sort of before that, in agrarian and hunter
gatherer societies, wolves were highly respected.
So the fear of wolves does stillexist in a lot of human
societies and a lot of people. It says the majority of recorded

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attacks on people have been attributed to animals suffering
with rabies. Wolf attacks on humans are rare
because wolves are relatively few, live away from people and
have developed a fear of humans because of their experiences
with hunters, farmers, ranchers and shepherds.
And last year, I got a chance togo to the Wolf Conservation

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Center in New York State. And there they talked a lot
about how they have some wolves there that have been raised by
humans. And they are, they act very
differently than the wolves thatthey sort of have that are more
wild or that hadn't been raised by humans.

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The ones that are, haven't been raised by humans at all are very
fearful of people like, you know, even though they see
people all the time because they're at this conservation
center where they get fed. Like the food is dropped in
separately from the people and the wolves will like run away
when the humans enter the enclosure and, and they like put

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the food down usually like a dead carcass, an animal of some
kind for the wolves. And the wolves will like run
into the brush, really like and hide.
And then once the people leave, the wolves come out and like
feed. Whereas if you they have wolves
there, you can actually watch the the webcams if you want.

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So if you go to the Wolf Conservation Center, which is at
nywolf.org, they have a lot of live webcams for their different
wolves. And they talk about their
ambassador wolves, Nikkei and Silas and Kanari.
And they are ones that have beenraised or around humans a lot

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more. And so they have very different,
much more dog like behavior and interacting with people, whereas
the rest of the wolves are pretty skittish.
Like we saw a couple of them. We did a tour there which was
very cool as part of The Dirty Hill Coven retreat last year.
And we got to see all these different, we got to see red

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wolves as well as grey wolves and Mexican grey wolves there.
But yeah, a lot of the wolves, they're very elusive even within
their enclosures that are, they're fairly large enclosures.
But I would say, yeah, really the only times I've seen I've
been around, you know, seen wolves at all are in other
conservation centers. There's one in Washington that

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I've been to that's called Wolf Haven.
I've seen at the Northwest truck, which is like a, a zoo,
but only for like regional animals in Pierce County where I
live there, they have like a pack of wolves.
I don't know, a pack. I, I don't know if they're all

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related in this nuclear family way, but I guess probably if
they're going to hang out together, there's a pack of
wolves there. And I one time got to hear them
respond to like a siren and theyall started howling during the
day, which was quite wild to hear all of them howling and
kind of like running around and concerned.

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I guess. The only other time I've seen
wolves are, you know, obviously,like in zoos and in enclosures
personally. But when I lived in Vienna, I
studied abroad there in Austria.There were wolves there and I
remember them. They again in a very large
enclosure. But I went there during the
winter time and the wolves were actually like loving the snow.

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People would like make snowballsand throw them into the
enclosure and the wolves would like chase after them again,
kind of like a dog. If you like throw something into
the water, they would like go after it and get really excited.
So it was very cute to see. But anyway, what else do I want
to share about wolves? I decided to do this wolf

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episode right after the crow Corvus episode because I learned
that crows and wolves work together it sounds like and have
a symbiotic relationship often times in order to each get food.
And so crows will let wolves know by certain calls that they

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make that there's an injured animal, and the Wolf Pack will
go take down or, you know, the family will go take down the
injured animal, which is generally how predators work.
They look for injured animals, not necessarily like, the
hardest ones to catch, right? They're looking for an easy
meal. We all understand.

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And so, yeah, the crows will letthem know the wolves take down
the animal. And then, you know, the wolves
feed a lot. And then what?
Kind of like whatever's left or the crows will go and feed as
well on the animal. I was going to see if there
were. Yeah.
So the wolves are pack hunters again.

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They sort of will take down a large animal together and
especially vulnerable animals oflike large prey.
So a pack of 15 could bring downa moose, which are quite large,
but you kind of need a lot of them to do that.
So they have kind of like coordinated attacks.

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I'm pretty sure it says that wild horses used to be a
frequently consumed prey of North American wolves.
In Eurasia, wolves prey mostly on moose, deer, and wild boar.
In America, their prayer more like elk, moose, Caribou, deer,

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and then I guess occasionally wild horses.
If you're in parts of the UnitedStates that have wild horses,
which are super cool to see. I've seen some in Arizona
before. Wolves can digest their meal in
a few hours. Again, if you have a dog, you're
sort of aware they can feed several times a day and they
right, if you think of 15 wolvestaking down a moose, like right,

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they can eat a lot of food, but there's that's also a lot of
them. So they can make quick use of
large quantities of meat. Let's see what else says.
They're not fussy eaters. They'll regularly eat waterfowl
or like, you know, duck eggs or things like that.
They'll also eat rodents or rabbits or yeah, or other even

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smaller carnivores. They'll even eat like lizards or
snakes or frogs or even grasshoppers.
Apparently so. And it says some, some wolves in
certain areas eat fish as well as other marine life probably,
again, kind of whatever they have access to.
They also consume some plant material.
In Europe, they eat fruit like apples or pears or things.

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In North America, wolves have been shown eating blueberries
and raspberries. They'll also eat grass.
Again, I would say if you have adog, you're aware that they
will, you know, they like meat and that's probably their
preference. But they'll eat other stuff too,
sometimes things that they're, you know, maybe even shouldn't
eat. And like a lot of animals,

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they'll eat grass to sometimes like induce vomiting if they
like don't feel well or something.
It says they've been eating likegrain crops.
And then in times of scarcity, wolves will eat carrion, which
is just like already dead animal.
It's like a carcass. And it says in a lot of places,

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in some EUR Asian areas where there's a dense people, they're
they eat a lot of like livestockand garbage.
So again, this idea that like wolves are, you know, evil in
our fairy tales because they eatchildren.
Not generally true, probably rarely happened.

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I know that like in a lot of, again, places where that used to
be more wild and less people dense, like, right, wolves would
come out of the forest perhaps and come again if you had
livestock, right, Come take downsome livestock, which I know in
the US, that's like the really big farmers being against wolves

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because they will eat, you know,wolves will take down their
livestock, which they use for, you know, their business and
money. I know in Colorado they're
reintroducing wolves and they'vebeen in long years, long talks
with the farmers there about thelike monetary compensation

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programs of what happens if a wolf does, you know, if they
reintroduce them in the area andthey do take down livestock
animals. But again, it's kind of it's
hard because if wolves had more wild areas and right, if we
weren't perhaps maybe over hunting certain animals or

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right, building roads through their homes, then they wouldn't
need to come into the human areas as much.
But that is, when it gets, right, challenging.
This is when like humans and wolves historically have come to
blows sort of. And with guns, right?

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That gives humans an advantage over wolves, even if, right,
there's a lot of them. It says wolves are typically,
like the top predator or apex predator, or at least like they
dominate other candid species where they live.
So North America, there are incidents of wolves that have

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killed coyotes in particular in winter sometimes when coyotes
are eating like wolf kills. What else?
I'm trying to look through here see if there's anything
interesting. Oops.
It's sad that they have also eaten like foxes before or been

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documented doing that. This is like their interactions
with other predators. Bears, like brown bears would
typically dominate wolf packs. If there's right a carcass,
bears will chew off the wolves because they're being bigger.
But then, right, a Wolf Pack might prevail against a bear if

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there's babies around, if they're defending their den
sites. So again, there's a bit of like
territorialness or just. And it says both species kill
each other's young. How nice.
Wolves will eat the brown bears they kill, while brown bears
seem to only eat young wolves. Interesting.
And it says wolf interactions with black bears in America are

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rare because of just they don't live really in the same places.
I know another place in the United States where wolves have
been reintroduced are in Yellowstone National Park.
And again, there they are protected so people can't shoot
and kill them. And Yellowstone is quite large,
so they have a lot of wild spaceto be and it's pretty not human

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populated in the winter time, especially when wolves are going
to be having a harder time even getting food.
Gosh, what am I trying to say? It says they also interact with
lynxes or Cougars or mountain lions in certain parts, like

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we're in the Rocky Mountains in the United States.
But they sort of like don't really they usually avoid each
other. That says they hunt at different
elevations for different prey. But it's harder in the winter
when everything's just like morescarce.
So that's generally, if you do see these interactions, that's
about as far as it gets. Wow, interesting.

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Wolf and Siberian tiger interactions are well documented
in the Russian Far East, where tigers significantly depress
wolf numbers, sometimes to the point of localized extinction.
OK, so tiger beats wolf, which makes sense.
Tigers are massive, bigger than mountain lions even, And so I

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can see why that would happen. Let's see here.
I'd say a lot of people know a lot about wolves or at least
like their social patterns, right?
Their social, they live in thesefamily pairs.
They they'll stay with our offspring or the in the pack for
multiple years, like probably upto even five years until they're

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like very mature. And then there's almost like too
many wolves in a pack and then they will go and sort of
separate off. And wolves are territorial, they
establish territories far largerthan they require to survive,
assuring a steady supply of prey.
And again the territory sides depends on how the amount of

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prey available and the age of the packs pups.
So basically, they will, you know, expand their territory as
needed for the amount of food that they need.
It says they generally won't hunt on the fringe of their
territorial range because, right, that's all obviously
going to be where there are other packs.

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And so they don't really, that'sdangerous, right?
You know, to have them kind of go in and have to fight with
other packs. Let's see.
It says wolf packs are typicallysettled and usually leave their
custom ranges only during severefood shortages.
So it's almost that like once a family gets established in an

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area, right, they sort of just keep increasing their territory
into there's too many wolves in one pack, then another pack sort
of comes off of that one. And right then they move
territory, sort of. And there have been territorial
fights documented and ones that have killed wolves.

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It says there's one study of that 14 to 65% of wolf's deaths.
That's a very large range. So in Minnesota and Denali
National Park and Preserve were due to other wolves.
So again, they do fight each other.
So that's pretty much how they maintain control.
They do a lot of vocalizations similar to crows, a lot of body

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postures, scent, touch, taste. Again, we have to think about,
right, like our familiarity withdogs and wolves are just sort
of, you know, similar to that insome ways, but also much larger
than most of our dogs, even large dogs, and have different
behavior. It says wolves do not howl at

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the moon, which is kind of funny.
It says they howl to assemble the pack usually before and
after hunts, to pass on an alarmand to locate each other during
a storm while crossing unfamiliar territory, and to
communicate across great distances.
I just got to the part where they're talking about hunting

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and feeding. So yeah, if you listen to the
Crow Corvus episode that I just did, I talked about that crows,
yeah, well, sort of like align themselves with wolf packs and
they will help wolves out and wolves will sort of allow them
to feed off of the carcass a bit, which is very interesting.

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And again, both very smart commutative social animals.
Let's see. And, yeah, wolves were heavily
haunted, especially in the last 100 to 200 years, you know,
since guns have been around, andespecially when there's been a

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lot more, like, livestock in certain areas and fencing and
stuff like that where they can'tget away.
And there has been some reintroduction of wolves in
different places. Let's see.

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OK, that's probably enough aboutwolves for now.
Wolves, you know, have been, again, long in mythology and
folklore. The ancient Greeks associated
wolves with Apollo, the Romans with Mars, the God of War, and

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believe their city's founders, Romulus and Remus were suckled
by a she wolf. Norse mythology includes the
feared giant wolf Fenrir, and Gary and Frecky were Odin's
faithful pets. So right, we have mythology in a
lot of places, I would say, where wolves have been

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historically, right? There's different kinds of
wolves. And so they also are greatly
throughout the the world. In the Pawnee creation myth, the
wolf was the first animal brought to Earth and they talk
about Sirius as the wolf star. Both Pawnee and Blackfoot call

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the Milky Way the wolf trail, and the wolf is also an
important Crest symbol for clansof the Pacific Northwest like
the Kawaka Waka, Waka. Look at where this is in
southwestern Canada. OK, let's move into more

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symbolism. So I started talking about it,
right? Again, we have these social
dynamics. We have the sort of pack
mentality, right? Again, even a lot of the ways we
talk about people and how they work or is from our
understanding of wolves and how they socialize and stay
together. On tanyacastille.com, her

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website under the wolf, they talk about the wolf of being.
Integrity symbolizes integrity, instinct and interdependence.
With a strong sense of communityand deep familial ties.
Wolf teaches us the importance of loyalty.
When wolves travel in packs, they demonstrate an
understanding of collaboration and support.

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The weakest members often lead, while the strongest protect from
the rear, ensuring that no one is left behind.
This behavior highlights the power of unity and reminds us
that we can achieve our goals more effectively when we support
one another. By fostering loyalty in our
relationships, whether with friends, families, or
colleagues, wolves are also guided by their instincts and

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intuition, qualities that we cancultivate in ourselves.
Their ability to communicate with subtle gestures, growls,
and glances shows the importanceof listening not just to others
but to our inner voice as well. When we take the time to quiet
our minds and TuneIn, we can hear our intuition guiding us,
like a wolf howling at night. As I talked about a little bit

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earlier, wolves share a unique bond with Ravens and crows,
reflecting the value of interdependence and cooperation.
The two species work together, helping each other find food and
navigate challenges, and they dothis by their vocalizations.
The relationship serves as a reminder that we, too, can
benefit from collaboration and the support of those around us.

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It says there's an ancient love story between wolf and Raven
where they fall in love but tragically can't find a way to
be together because of their airand earth differences.
In Danish folklore, there's a mythical creature called a Valve
Raven, which is half wolf, half Raven.
According to the tale, Valve Raven was born from a Raven

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eating the body of a king that was killed on a battlefield,
creating a half wolf, half Ravenmythical creature.
The Valve Raven's goal is to transform itself into a night.
To achieve this, it must eat theheart of a child.
Oh, how nice. Many consider them to be
terrible creatures. But what if the valve ran does
not actually seek to literally eat the heart of a child, but

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instead it seeks to discover andembrace its own inner child and
heal the parts of our own heart that have been abandoned.
Then, once the Valraven has donethe work to heal its inner
child, it can transform into a night, a protector of light and
love for our world. By acknowledging and processing
our emotions, we can work towardbecoming our better selves,

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shedding old identities and emerging stronger and more whole
instead of causing harm to others.
And again, that was from Tanya Casteel's website.
I talked about the Wolf Conservation Center earlier
where, Yeah, you can watch theirwebcams and see their wolves
there. They have 7 packs of critically

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endangered wolves there that they feed and sort of in some
ways like rehabilitate and they have like breeding programs
basically for them and then theywill release wolves back out
into the wild is like the the goal of the program there.

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Especially things like the Mexican great wolves and the red
wolves that are have been, thereare very few left.
OK, so if we think about wolves and tarot, so in a traditional
tarot deck, really the only timewe might see the wolf is in the
moon card. So again, this kind of right, we

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have this association with wolves howling at the moon.
But on the moon card, it depictsoften a dog creature on one side
and a wolf creature on the other.
Talking about that, we have this.
Where is that here? That there's a phrase between a

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dog and a wolf was a descriptionfor twilight.
So either dusk or dawn when the half light turns everything
monochromatic and you can't tellthe differences between the wild
and the tame. And so this is sort of what is
being depicted often on the tarot card.

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Let's see what else so often what is on that card on the moon
card, right, We have the I'm going to pull it up in my in the
library of esoterica tarot book by Tashan the moon.

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So it's often depicted the full and pregnant moon hovers in the
night sky, illuminating a path that winds far into the
distance. A dog and a wolf stand as
Sentinels, and in some ducks areshown howling up at the lunar
light. The two animals represent the
wild and the tamed, the duality of human nature, the loyal and

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the feral existing side by side.Some older decks include two
astronomers in the scene and observing the heavens.
In the most popular depiction, asmall crustacean appears just
emerging from a pond. In the foreground, a crab or
crawfish or a lobster is a signifier of our slow evolution

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into enlightenment, our ascent from murky waters to dry land
and finally into air and spirit.Then often depicted in the
background are these twin towers, so that which is
supposed to represent the line between the unconscious and
waking state. So in here in the star Tarot
deck, they depict the the the dog and the wolf.

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And that one in the tarot Enome de Paris, a French deck, they
have a wolf in that image. Let's see in the La Loon Tarot
for Dior depicts the dog and wolf image as well.

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I'm looking in here in the tarotby Alexander Donilov, Russian
Italian duck. It depicts that image the sort
of traditional in the Marco Benedetti Tarot as well as the
Letaro de la Rey from France andalso Marguerite Peterson's Duck

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Tarot deck from Germany. So again, that is sort of a
traditional depiction of the moon card.
So other than that, we don't, atleast in the sort of traditional
writer wait Smith depiction, we don't necessarily see any other
wolves. And I have two decks in front of

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me where they depict other cardsthat have wolves in them.
So I thought I would share those.
So I pulled the moon card from the Desert Illuminations Tarot
deck, which does have the the dog and wolf sort of on either
side. The traditional kind of
depiction there with the moon and the lobster and the twin
towers in the background. But we also have the strength

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card depicts a well, looks to melike a wolf.
I'm going to check in the deck to see if it says OK.
It says the strength card is based on the myth of the red
wolf. After traveling for many days,
starving and weak, a woman heardthe haunting howls of a wolf in

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the distance at twilight. The red wolf invited her to
share food and water together. By following the wise
instructions of the red wolf spirit, the woman gained enough
strength to survive death by taming the wolf with the purity
of her spirit. What situations in your life
have you gone through where you needed to be strong?
How did you use your inner strength to overcome those

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obstacles? Remember that you always have
the strength to overcome any challenges life throws your way,
even when you don't think that you do.
And I like it says this card's associated with the Sun and Leo,
which we are still in Leo's season right now, the element of
fire and the solar plexus. So that one depicts the red

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wolf, which would be the sort ofnative wolf to the southwest of
the US. In the other dock that I looked
at, the Anima Muni Tara deck, itdepicts both a red wolf and a
Gray wolf. So they're both in the Pentacles
suit, Pentacles being an earth sign.

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And this deck, they sort of go very strongly by the elements of
each suit. So Pentacles would be Earth.
So these are all like Earth animals basically.
The cups have water animals because they're a water sign.
The swords have air animals because they're an air sign,

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etcetera. So first we have the 10 of
Pentacles which is depicts a redwolf, Canis Rufus.
You've worked hard for a long time and through all the
struggles and setbacks, you finally accomplished your goals.
You've now reached a state of contentment.
This also means you're able to turn your attention to your
family and it does depict like awolf with Cubs around them.

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It says you're not able to provide for them and do your
part to ensure their bright future.
So upright. This card is about
establishment, wealth, success, inheritance, and family
tradition. And then the Knight of Pentacles
card depicts the Gray wolf, Canis lupus.
The Knight of Pentacles is patient, methodical, and

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hardworking. Trustworthiness, reliability,
and routine work are required from you right now.
The work may seem dull, but theywill pay off eventually.
You will see all the tasks through to the end up right.
It's about practicality, steadfastness, routine,
meticulousness and conservatism.Yeah, so those are the ones that

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had wolves on them in the decks that I could find.
I am going to dive in and see what the cards have to say today
on this topic, what message the wolves have for us, and we'll
see what's there. I'm going to pull from The

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Citadel, a fantasy Oracle deck by Fenn Inkwright.
A card flipped out, but it was just the top card, so I'm going
to shuffle and if it comes back out again then then we know it's

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for real. For real.
OK, what message do the wolves have for us today?
What do we need to learn? What do we need to remember?
Oh, that's funny. So I got the spy master about
knowledge or distrust, and what's depicted on it is a Raven

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or a crow. So we have that connection again
back to the Corvus, which are Ravens and crows, and this is
the spy master, OK? The pursuit of knowledge is a
grand goal, but don't let it tarnish your opinion of the

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world. If you can only pay attention to
the negative, you can find everyperson's flaws, every piece of
bad news, every shadow, even on a sunny day.
Instead, try to exercise some positivity and forgive those
around you for their faults. A relationship or situation can
be so much better if its flaws are acknowledged but not focused

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on above all else. So that is the spy master there.
So we're not supposed to write. The pursuit of knowledge is
good, but we're not just holdingto that, right?
We're going to think about the positive side of things, try to
be forgiving of those around us,even when they might break the

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rules or not, right? Not be.
I'll be perfect because no one'sperfect and we can recognize by
our own flaws and flaws in relationship, but also we can
focus on the generosity of others above all else.
All right, And that is the spymaster.
And as we think about it, right,the the generosity here is of

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the wolf crow dynamic where the crows again sort of are on the
lookout for injured animals for the wolves and the wolves go
take them down. The wolves feed a bit and then
the crows also get to eat from it.
So they have this right working together, collaboration,
symbiotic relationship as well, which is very cool.

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So sometimes the right things can be, we can all get something
out of it when we collaborate, even if we think that we could
do it better on our own sometimes, right?
If you're if you're the wolf, you literally can't fly.
You can't see above the ground unless you go stand on a hill.
And so right there are just things that other people can see

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that we can't. And same for the wolves, right?
Crows are much smaller critters.They don't need as much food.
But if they can, right, help thewolves take down larger animals
and help them work together, then they can be on the lookout
for them. All right, so in closing, if
you'd like to join me on the journey of using the tarot for

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transformation, click on the link in the show notes to
indicate your interest to get more info.
We'll be starting at the end of August, working together for 12
weeks of calls and journaling todiscover what happens when we
want to transform our lives through the tarot.
Links for the tarot decks alwaysbe in the show notes and on my
website if you'd like to look atthem or purchase them.
And thanks for joining me today on Everyday Tarot.

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Just as a reminder, the podcast comes out daily Monday through
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