Hams On the Air: Episode 1 – Every Ham Has a Story - Everyday Ham Podcast: Amateur Radio Conversations

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James Mills, K8JKU (00:01):
All right, hi everyone.
Welcome to Episode 1 of theEveryday Ham Podcast.
This is a new thing we're goingto try, so bear with us as we
try to get in the swing ofthings here over the next few
episodes.
But we'll kick it off with someintroductions.
And, jim, why don't you gofirst?

Jim Davis, N8JRD (00:16):
Okay, Sounds good.
Yeah, we have three of us here,so let's get that clear right
out of the book.
My name is Jim Jim Davis and mycall sign is November 8,.
Juliet Romeo Delta.
I work out of South Lyon,Michigan, and got involved here
in the local club just about sixmonths ago, so fairly new or

(00:36):
reintroduced to the hobby.
In just the last six monthsCame in blazing, of course, and
have gotten caught the fire, ifyou will have tons of new
equipment.
Have been learning as I go but,excitedly enough, had upgraded
from technician to general.

(00:56):
So I am not an extra yet, butwe might talk a little bit about
what our goals are for thisyear, and that might be one of
them.

And a proud legacy, ham as well.

That's right.
Yeah, james makes a good point.
And my family is all amateursmy dad, my mother and my brother
just four of us in the familyall of us were amateurs.
I got my license originally in2002.
So I was just about out of highschool at that point.
I went and took my techniciantest.

(01:28):
This was after they added, orremoved rather, the requirement
for CW so I got away pretty easy, didn't have to learn any sort
of code and studied up out of aRadio Shack fundamentals book
that Dad got us from the localRadio Shack in town After quite
a bit of reading.
This was before the banks werereadily available for you to

(01:50):
just review the banks ofquestions.
We did go take the test and Idid pretty well on it.
I don't remember what theactual score it was, but passed
it without too much trouble.
My brother and I tested on thesame day and my original call
sign was Kilo Charlie 8, tangoGulf Bravo and he was Tango Gulf
Charlie.
So we got subsequent call signs, my brother and I.
So that was kind of neat.
Um, but uh, we use those, uh, onthe farm.

(02:12):
We lived on 80 acres for wellas long as I can recall, up in
Gaylord there and uh, it was, uh, it was useful just for, um,
you know, utility around thefarm, calling from the house
when dinner was ready, callingto come back up to get something
that you missed, et cetera, etcetera.
So that's kind of the startingpoint anyway.
But excited to be with you guys, because with me a couple of

(02:35):
folks that have a wealth ofknowledge and have been involved
in much more depth for longer Iwouldn't be too sure of that
one.
We'll send it over to Rory.
Go ahead, Rory.

Rory Locke, W8KRX (02:47):
Well, that was.
I did not grow up on a farm, soI don't my.
My story is not that exciting.
I grew up all of three milesfrom where I live now, here in
in just outside of downtownSouth Lyon, michigan, not too
far from Jim we uh we met at allof us met at our local club,
which was something we all hadin common, which is a good thing
, but I was originally licensedprobably just a couple months

(03:10):
before Jim, as my original callwas Kilo Charlie 8, sierra Zulu
Romeo, which came just beforethe tease.
So I bet six months or so Idon't remember what month, I
want to say February of 2002, Igot licensed and I was still in
high school.
The current call, though,whiskey 8, kilo, november X-Ray,

(03:31):
I took a couple years ago whenI finally passed the general.
So I had a long up and down.
I have continued to have a longup and down career with amateur
radio, licensed in 2002, ofcourse, played around with it
for several years, got busy withcollege and work and life and
always had a radio around, butnever not always on, always

(03:53):
listening, always lurking, butnever super active.
So somewhere in the last fiveor so years I started getting
active again and upgraded togeneral and that's when I took
the new call, sign on Again, hada little bit of a career change
, probably four years ago, andgot busy with that.

(04:14):
Suddenly someone at work decidedthat he wanted a ham radio
license and he saw these coupleantennas on my car so he started
asking questions.
He's the one who knew I livedin south lion and said well, do
you, do you belong to that club?
And and at that time thatanswer was no, I I wasn't.
It hadn't been a club memberfor probably 10 years and uh,
and suddenly I got uh veryinterested in helping him study

(04:38):
for technician at work and andget his, his mobile and house
set up together and suddenly Ibecame super radioactive again.
So you know, it's been a goodjourney.
I've met a lot of good peoplealong the way, people that I
still know, people that I've metin other parts of the country,
whether it's from using thedigital mode, such as DSTAR or

(05:00):
AllSTAR, and just travels alongthe way, always having the
handheld with me.
It's been fun meeting peopleeverywhere.
So that's a bit of my story.
I'm sure there's more, but I'llremember more later.

I was going to say I don't think I have that
exciting with introductions,the two of you.
So I'm James Mills, k8jku uh,the most recent licensed ham of
the bunch, actually, so I wouldconsider myself a COVID ham.
So I was licensed, with mytechnician, in 2021.
I started studying in 2020because, like a lot of people at

(05:34):
that time, I had some availablespace to occupy myself, got my
general and extra in the sameyear, so 2023.
So my ADD kicked in.
I just kept going and there Iwas, so I'm definitely more of a
newer ham.
My grandpa would always listento CB radios and was always

(05:54):
fascinated with scanners andthings of that nature, so I
always wanted to learn moreabout ham radio.
So it wasn't until again Idon't remember why I even saw
something or thought of amateurradio.
Um, but I did, and I juststarted watching some YouTube
videos and studying up and usingall the online tools I could at
that time.
And and here I am, um, so I I'dsay the thing I'm most

(06:17):
interested in, uh is, I doubttechnical background by
profession, but I love coding, Ilove electronics, always have A
lot of consumer electronics, ofcourse, as a lot of people, and
I'm just excited about thingslike Parks on the Air and going
out and poding, and the clubwe're in is actually, I would
say, a pretty active poda clubas well.

(06:39):
So getting to spend time withyou guys and the other members
out in Mountain Parks has beenpretty fantastic and I just love
it.
You guys and the other membersout in Mountain Parks has been
pretty fantastic and I just loveit.
I love getting out andoperating and learning new
things about radios and antennadesigns and everything that
comes with it.
So I would say that is a littlebit about me and again,
shortest introduction of allthree.

Well, it's interesting that you're the
newest ham, but you're also themost accomplished by way of
licensed class.
James is the only extra amongthe three of us.

It's all about time he enjoys having
those extra few, few frequenciesto use because, uh, you know,
more than more than once the hamalerts popped up with Kate JKU
somewhere that I can't go hunthim.
So he does.
I know.
I know James enjoys havingthose, those little yeah.

I just like to flaunt my extra privileges.

You know a little bit, get spotted down in
the extra class area.
So everybody knows.

I did leave something out of my introduction
.
You made me think when you weretalking about CB and scanner.
That's kind of where I started.
When I was a kid we had a CB inthe minivan when we'd go up
north and we would hang out onChannel 19 for the drive up 75
up to the little family place upin Bel Air and we would use a

(07:51):
couple handheld CBs up there forcoordination in and around the
10 acres.
But then I got involved having ascanner at some point, because
my grandpa always had one and atsome point I found these
frequencies with a bunch of olddudes and weird guys that would
go on and on about things at allhours and keep in mind this was

(08:13):
the 90s, so repeaters were alot more active now.
They would be active from 5 inthe morning until 10 at night
and sometimes even later, and mydad would listen.
He's like what's all thesepeople talking?
And he said, um, you know.
So he encouraged me.
Even though he wasn't a ham, heknew what ham radio was, um,

(08:33):
and he encouraged me to getlicensed.
So that's a chunk of my story Iforgot.
I'm glad you mentioned scannersand cbs.

Uh, james, because it's where we got
comfortable with the uh staticsound.

So it doesn't drive us nuts, is that scanner?
I can hear it all the time andit doesn't bother me.
I don't have patience.
You guys know that.

That is true .
Maybe one transition before weget started into the main topic,
which is not going to be a—it'sa little bit of a softball of a
topic to start it is episodeone after all but maybe we talk
a little bit about the missionof this podcast.
What are we trying toaccomplish and what's the
overall themes?
And I think the name EverydayHam sort of alludes to what

(09:15):
we're trying to go for here alittle bit.

But yeah, I agree with you.
We went through a lot of names.
We used AI, we tried to use AI.
A lot of names we used AI, wetried to use AI.
It made some suggestions.
Some were hilarious the SignalStruggle that was out there.
There were a couple other thatwere pretty funny, but no, I
think the title should give youa pretty good idea of where
we're headed here.
This is not supposed to be apretentious conversation

(09:39):
necessarily.
It's intended, I think, to be anapproachable discussion that
talks about the current topicsthat are relevant to folks that
are operating radio, and radiohas changed a lot, I think, in
many exciting ways in the lastcouple of years, even, obviously
, I got back into it in just thelast six months.
But to see, you know, the, thePOTA parks on on the Air becomes

(10:03):
such a popular radio sport, ifyou want to call it that, to see
contesting pick back up andhave folks that are just far
more in tune with what ishappening on the radio, it seems
like there's a kind of aburgeoning interest in this
particular hobby again, with amore diverse crew than perhaps

(10:24):
there were in the past, right, amore diverse range of ages and
folks that are interested.
So that's my feel on it is thatthis should be something that
you maybe are hearing, somethingthat you hadn't seen already,
and we're kind of breaking downthat topic and exploring it a
little bit further.
Maybe it'll get you thinkingabout that idea too.
So that's my idea for what wemight do here.

(10:47):
You guys are here too, though.

So what do you think?
I think a lot of it too issomething James mentioned in his
introduction is that he doesn'twork professionally in a
technical background.
I don't either, Jim, I guess.
Suppose in a way you do, butnot super electronics radio
background.
You work in tech, 're not?

we're not electronics engineers or
electrical engineers or radioengineers, and right the
conversation.

I'm sure at some point we'll go that
direction and we'll probablyprobably make complete fools of
ourselves, because some of thatstuff I just don't know about we
may be wrong.
Yeah, we may be wrong, but Ithink I think it'll allow for a
conversation about things thatinfluence amateur radio, affect
amateur radio, help and evenhinder, in some cases, the hobby

(11:30):
.
I think it'll just be aconversation where we kind of
hit on those types of topics,not just necessarily technical
items.
I think we're thinking abouttalking about equipment.
Of course we're going to talkabout equipment.
Some of us purchase a lot ofequipment.
Some of us purchase a lot ofequipment, some of us sell a lot
of equipment Guilty as charged.
Right, so we will talk aboutthat, but I think the topics

(11:55):
will be a lot more broad thanjust the technical side.

Yeah, and I don't think I have much to add.
Jim touched on it.
For me the hobby is I know alot of people may not agree with
it, however, I do feel if Ilook at our demographic window I
see it growing, a new audiencecoming in and I also like more
than ever, as Jim alluded tobefore, there are distinct silos
back in the hobby that overlap.
Ham radio has always been ahobby of many hobbies within it,

(12:27):
Um, but you're definitelyseeing a lot of uh, a lot of
cool new things come out, fromemergency preparedness to to the
parks on the air, to tocontesting people learning CW
again and getting out there andkeying and, um, I just think
it's uh.
For me personally, I like it asan idea of sort of journaling
the growth of the hobby formyself and for you guys, and
what I've learned and what'scoming up and having an
opportunity to share that withothers as well, which I think is

(12:50):
a pretty cool idea andsomething that we can do for
each other as well.

Yeah, I like what you just said there, which
is there's many ways to hamthat's my summary right there's
no wrong way to ham.
There is no wrong way to eat theReese's here.
No, it really is.
Every time I turn on mycomputer and I pick up a radio,
I find something new that Ihaven't explored yet, and that's
what's really exciting about itis often I'll pick up a new

(13:16):
hobby and for a few months I'mreally really interested in it,
and after those few months go byyou feel like you've reached a
sort of maybe not mastery, butyou've gotten pretty good at it,
and so it becomes difficult tocontinue to feel like you're
expanding your skill set andthen your interest kind of wanes
.
And so I love that about radio,and I like that.

(13:38):
You mentioned that there's justso many ways that you can use
your radio.
The same radio can be used tosend pictures, it can be used to
talk to someone on a two-meterrepeater.
It can be used to have adigital conversation halfway
across the world on 30 watts.
It's awesome just how much youcan do with it, and I think that
that is the draw now is you'vegot more interest in exploring

(14:00):
those more niche use cases forit, and it's always been one of
curiosity.
The hobby has always been oneof curiosity, but I think that
it's really exciting to hearthat.

Yeah.
So I think with that we canmove on to the main topic and
everyone bear in mind we willget to more meaty topics in the
future, we promise.
But since it is January andwe're still in the mood of 2025
just starting, we figured we'ddo.
What are we excited for in theyear 2025, specifically related

(14:32):
to amateur radio or reallyanything we feel in our lives
that maybe is important to us.
So, jim, if you're willing tokick it off, why?
Don't we go to you and let'ssee what your 2025 looks like.

Yeah Well, it's so easy as a six-month-old
ham, so to speak, to be excitedabout pretty much everything
this year.
So top of my list, of course,is I already do have my campsite
booked, and so do many of thefolks in our club to go to
Hamvention and so as a guy.

You have your hotel booked Yep.

Rory Rory, you have your hotel booked.
I don't hate that at all.

Rory may be the smartest of us all.

Let's just acknowledge that now.
That's right.
No, as a ham that's never beento Hamvention, I feel like you
got to reach a sort of like hammecca at some point and
Hamvention might be that place.
Right, I am certainly excitedabout it.
I've been looking forward to itfor a number of months and it's
fun to hear the stories fromclub members that have gone for

(15:32):
years, what they think isawesome about it, what they
think is annoying about it,because it certainly is a place
full of people More coffeevendors.

That's why I'm staying at a hotel.

Immediately more coffee vendors.
There seems to be a problemwith accessibility to coffee.
I have been told this.

I mean Rory, and I might need a fix from
time to time and we need more ofit.

Oh, it's bad.
That's probably my biggestcomplaint about Dayton Amvention
, though, is the lack of coffeevendors.
It's not good.
That's really it when you have.
I don't know how many people goto Dayton every year I don't
know those numbers but when theaverage of them are all dudes

(16:14):
and old dudes and people thatrun on coffee in general, or
young dudes or middle-aged dudes, I suppose, that run on coffee.
You've got one coffee littlecoffee cart with you know little
trailer little I don't know 10foot trailer, probably smaller
than that, and they have, likeyou know, five boxes of donuts
and you know a few things, ofcoffee to try and get through

(16:35):
the morning.
It doesn't work, it justdoesn't work.

To talk about the scale of Hamvention.
A quick AI insight on that.
2024's event apparently set arecord with over 35,000
attendees, so that's a lot ofpeople in a fairground-sized
space with two boxes of donutsand a couple of pots of coffee.

So what's funny too, jim, when you brought
up your topic, and the smile Iinitially had was we didn't tell
each other our 2025s before westarted.
And I had a similar oneinvolving Hamvention on my list
and I knew it would match in.
But mine's a little bitdifferent.
Mine is my first time atHamvention was last year.
So 2024, hamvention, therecord-breaking year, and it's a

(17:20):
lot to take in.
You're learning the lay of theland, day one, learning how to
navigate, learning what vendorsare there, do all the things
people tell you you got to do,and it's kind of a whirlwind.
I'm excited for year two becausenow that I have that base of
knowledge I get to, I think,dive a little bit deeper.
Right, I know where to go getthe things I need, to get what's
there already, so I can kind ofsave my pennies and go out and

(17:42):
spend them a little bit morewisely.
I can find the coffee cartwhere I know I got to go at
these hours because it's notgoing to have the long line or
run out of coffee.
So kind of looking at it withmaybe some new, fresh eyes and a
comfortability to it, and I'mreally excited for that.
Because now I know more peoplein the hobby.
I'm going with a lot of ourclub members and friends and to

(18:04):
spend that time and to camp anddo all these things are really
exciting for me and I think it'sgoing to be a new perspective
on something.

Yeah.

So this will be my fourth Dayton hamvention.
I've done three at the currentlocation and I did one at the
original location back either2004, 2006.
It was one or the other, sothat one was a quick, quick for
me.
Down to the, the early one Itook the, the bus out of ann
arbor that the aero clubprovides and, with a, with a ham

(18:33):
friend of mine, blasted downthere, walked around real quick,
bought a vx7 and came home.
That was my my first daytondayton nice and, um, I still
have that vx7.
Yep, and then I didn't go againuntil 2022.
I think that's right.
Yeah, one of my ham friends,sean Cade SAW, had already been

(18:59):
several times to the new spotand wanted me to get down there,
so I agreed and made a quicktrip and then last year I went
as well, but this year it is, Ithink, particularly um, going to
be a good time.
I just the social group.
There's so many more peoplelike the club's grown.
I've met more people it has youknow, just from being more
active.
Um, in general, I I know a lotmore people that are going to be

(19:22):
there.
So the, the, the show at the atthe fairgrounds, will be good,
and then the, the campground.
That's always a plus too.
Yes, I will be at thecampground a little bit, even
though I'll go hide at the hotel.

You have an open invitation, yeah.

You're welcome to come have a s'more with us.

I will be there, but I will be at some
point retiring to the holidayinn.

Well, the bed will probably be way more
comfortable there.
Let's be real.

Yeah and less rain.

Let's not say it out loud.

I know everybody says that you guys get
rain every year.
I'm a horrible person.
I fully own that one.
Rory, what was your 2025?
What would you say?

Two things and a bigger thing.
One and you, like we talkedabout earlier, is you beat us on
this.
I figure I've been a ham morethan 20 years.
It's time to get the extra done.
I just need to get the, theextra class, done.
I don't care about the, thefrequencies and the extra stuff
that you get with extra, but Ineed to get it done.
The one goal and it'll take memost of the summer to work up to

(20:22):
it the second goal I guessit'll take me most of the summer
to work up to it is I want todo a CW POTA activation and
that'll take some work.
I still need to finesse someparts of my Morse vocabulary.
I have a lot of it.
I can follow more than Irealize when I actually listen.

(20:44):
But I was talking to another hamfriend of ours, frank NFAM,
who's done a ton of CW over hislife and I told him I struggle
mostly with the numerals, thenumbers and a couple of the
letters and he gave me some tipsof things to listen to and to
play with, to practice that.
And I think I'll do a littlebit of that and see how I get,

(21:07):
and if it doesn't work out, itdoesn't work out but it's
something I want to do.
And then the big goal is I gotto get an HF antenna outside
this condo life is terrible.

I have wires running around my attic.

I have wires running around my living room,
down the hall.
I can't do that.
I need an antenna outside.

We did say this was going to be a relatable
podcast, and I think most folksare in a situation most are in
a situation where there's alimited way that they can
install an antenna.
So I don't think you're unusualas far as it goes.
Most folks have this problem,so we'll be curious to hear what
your solution to that problemis that sounds like future
episodes for sure?

Because, uh yeah, Jim, and I went through
that earlier this year.
Well, you, you have anabundance of HF antennas that
might be overdue.

I'll save it for another time, cause I have
strong feelings about the thingsthat I've put up.

Well, and I, and I am.
I am an HOA, not to quoteanother YouTube channel but I'm
an HOA, ham.
So, I definitely had on asmaller lot, so my footprint's
not as big, so I had some morelimitations.
But I still remember theexperience of being able to run
that coax into my house and flipon a radio without having to go
out in my garage and put up theSoda Bean mask and all that and

(22:22):
it was a great day.
Yeah, absolutely.

Even when I finally ran the wire in the
attic it had a had a betterworking hf antenna, and that's
just in the last couple months.
I mean that's that's maybe twoor three months at the most ago,
I climbed up in the attic andand because there's a whole
story there too, but we could, Idon't know, but um you know the
antenna follies episode.
Well, just the buy a radiobecause it's a good price from a

(22:51):
guy in a neighboring city andthen realizing, well, I'm going
to have this sitting on my deskwith no real antenna to use it.
So then, one day after work I'mcrawling around the attic and
I'm surprised I didn't fallthrough because my attic is
interesting.
But yeah, no, we got it.
But I got to get somethingoutside.
Jim was over here and we werewandering around looking at my

(23:13):
trees off the side of thebuilding.

We have an idea.

There's a couple of good opportunities out
there, I think, and they'llhave to wait, I think, until at
least spring or warmer winter.
I'm not going to freeze, as faras the joke goes of doing
antenna work in the winter, likeeveryone tends to do this one,
I'm not going to freeze to do.

It's worth saying that if anybody isn't
familiar with where the three ofus are located.
It is very cold over here rightnow.

We are in the southern part of Michigan
and it is 18 Fahrenheit outtoday we're not even in the cold
part of Michigan.

No, we're not, but it is very cold and I will
also.
I like part of Rory's story,because it will probably come up
again and again if we keepdoing this is I not only love
buying equipment, but I alsolove sharing great deals so that
other people buy equipment andRory may have fallen victim by
buying that 7100.
Oh, we're on number two.
See, I'm doing great, I'm doingexcellent.

Yeah, you're helping other people spend
their money.

It's a great job.
Well, there's two items Ipurchased that would not have
occurred without your influenceand or assistance.
So we have everyone's favoritemobile antenna, the ATOS 120,
that people either love or hate.
So, you know, doing all thispoda and you've got to get to a
park, got to set up an antennaand do all the things.

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Wouldn't it be nice just tohave your car ready to go and
you just pull into the park?
So the ATOS seems like a goodthing and my poda rig's an
FT-891, so those work nicelytogether.

Absolutely.

So I don't even know how did you acquire it
first.
You bought it from someone.

Yeah, I mean it goes back to the classic
N8JRD deal, which is you'rebrowsing Facebook on a random
afternoon and you're headednorth to Gaylord and a guy posts
something for a great deal andyou just have to have it.
So you go, get $500 out of thebank and pretty soon you have
new radios and antennas andcable and the whole nine out of
the bank and pretty soon youhave new radios and antennas and
cable and the whole nine.
So yeah, that was an, uh, thatthat deal was pretty fun.
That was a, an ft 897d, whichis an older hf rig, but all mode

(25:13):
uh, pretty, pretty well soughtafter rig and I know my dad had
a couple of them uh in his day,um, but uh, pick that up you.
Yep, rory has one.
James, do you have one secretly?

no, no, I got there.
However, he did get me on theATAS.
Let's see, this is a full roundrobin.

I was going to lead into that actually.
So Jim decides the ATAS at thatmoment is not for him.

It came with the 897.
I bought the 897, the ATAS andsome extra parts for $500, which
is a killer deal.
The ATAS is probably $300,right?
So?

I had been thinking about it and I said,
well, wouldn't it be nice, sinceI hear such terrible stories
about the ATOS, to just try iton my vehicle and see how it
works?
So I borrow it and I figure I'mgoing to have it a week.
I have it a little while andJim says, well, you should just
buy it.
Here's the deal.
And Jim says, well, you shouldjust buy it.

(26:08):
Here's the deal, and I think itwas radio club meeting that
Sunday and I had the cash in mypocket and ready to go sold and
that did result in James buyingone because I gave it positive
review and at another event youwere able to see it operate, at
least enough to understand it, Ithink.

Yeah, at a POTA event.
Yeah, and you even had it in a,let's say, less than flattering
operational position mounted onyour Jeep on the back lift gate
.
It's non-grounded and it stillperformed well.
And for those that don't know,the ATAS 120 is the ASu's
automatic active tuning uhmobile antenna.
Yep, um, so it's uh, I don'tknow how big it is, but it's a

(26:52):
coil and actuates based up anddown, based on the azu, uh, your
azu radio, sending in a signaland adjust.
And yeah, I tried it and youwere.
I mean, we did a demonstrationlike you flipped it on, you
tuned it to, I think it was even.

Which is the tallest band to tune to?

Yeah which is the tallest they'll go up to
and I think the SWR at a not sogreat spot, ungrounded, was
1.5-ish under two, it was undertwo Totally transmittable.
Yeah, making beautiful context,good audio, good signal reports
.
And winter was coming so I wasdefinitely tempted to play the
song, set up my yeah, my sodabeams outside my Jeep.

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So, yeah, I was a sucker, Ipaid full price for mine.
I bought mine, got a second 891mounted in my Jeep and actually
for a episode idea in the futureare mobile installations,
because for my Jeep, which is alittle bit more off-road
outfitted, I do do a lot oftrails and also love going,

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hiking and other things thatrequire sometimes an off-road
vehicle in the area.
But I love having what Ilearned on my ATAS and where to
mount it on a Jeep Wrangler JK.
But we have some interestingsetups, jim, because you have
your BMW there as well with aninteresting setup.

Yeah, I have two very starkly opposite rigs
that I have radios in Nothing,with an HF rig that's
permanently mounted.
I do have a POTA setup andwe'll talk about POTA setups,
I'm sure, at some point.
But no, both my rigs are verymuch the opposite end of the
spectrum.
The first is a opposite end ofthe spectrum, the first is a

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three-quarter.
It's a full-size truck 350,f350 with a FTM 500, which I
like that radio a lot.
I came in after the FTM 400 hadalready been retired and so I
didn't really get the pleasureof having the big screen that
everybody loved on it.
So I just bought the 500,thinking hey, this is the best
radio that Yezu has that couldbe installed in a mobile, and I
have enjoyed using it.
And then the i3, which is thesmall carbon fiber

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battery-powered only car, verytiny got a little FTM 300.
And I tried a very sveltethrough glass antenna on that
and I promptly melted it.
So that didn't work great, andso what I ended up doing was
going back to a verywell-respected antenna that the
club runs.
I believe it's a Diamond.

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We'll look up the number foryou guys, but it's an antenna
that uses VHB.
It's stuck to the outsidewindow.
I've got the cord run prettynicely on the outside of the
vehicle so that it's not in theway of its normal use and it
turned out really well.
It works just about as good asthe full-size truck does and I'm
really happy with that mobileinstallation.

But I'm sure we'll go into mobile in more
depth at some point, and we'llhave to talk about that one,
because yours is an excellentsolution for someone who can't
use a mag mount or has no way todo a lip mount Yours works well
.
Mount or has no way to do a lipmount yours works well.

Yeah, the i3 is a unique vehicle.
It exhibits almost all of themost challenging things that a
vehicle can exhibit for a hamradio operator, which is there's
almost no metal.

It's a proving ground if you will.

There's almost no metal on the car.
It's glass, plastic and carbonfiber.
So there's no place to put anantenna where you gain any sort
of real benefit from an RFperspective.
There's no good ground plane.
So yeah, you're at the mercy ofbuying a properly

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ground-independent-tech materialera where you're going to have
to use some of these differentoptions and move away from some
of the traditional mounts thatwere magnetic or lip-mounted,
because the materials don'tsupport those things.

Yeah yeah, it's becoming more aluminum,
more everything.
So awesome.
But I think we've learned we'renot good at staying on a topic
which is a journey for ourselves.
But, Rory, back to your CW realquickly.
We have the Winners Supportyour Parks event coming up.
Do you think you might want togive it a try on a safe space

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surrounded by friends?

I'll be activating Winners Support your
Parks from somewhere in Indiana.
I have an event that's taken meout of state and that's another
topic if we want to go off.
Topic are other hobbies andother ham radio adjacent things.
But we do in our lives but thatcould be another time too.
But I'll be down in Indiana forsomething that weekend and the

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plan is to depart from sundaymorning and get a quick
activation just to have asupport your parks in the book
and then head home.

Uh, so unfortunately I will not be out
there with you guys yeah, thethe club uh, the south lion club
, which is what we belong to,the south lion area amateur
radio club uh is an extremelyactive club when it comes to uh
the support your parks uh days,and so we usually do try to plan
a date around that, a datebeing at the park, someplace
where all of us can get togetherand activate and get our credit

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for that support your parksexperience.
And, yeah, this one's a prettyexciting one because the club
did go ahead and cover theaccommodations for the weekend.
So we'll be out at the Brightonstate recreation area in a
heated cabin where we'll be ableto Brighton State Recreation.
Area in a heated cabin wherewe'll be able to yeah a lot
nicer than pitching a tent inthe snow, and we'll have all of
our antennas set up, we'll havesome stations available and

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it'll be an outreach event tosome extent too.
Right, we'll all get our credit.
I think all of us are extremelyactive on POTA and you can go
check out our awards if you'reinterested.
We'll we'll try to chase youdown if you're listening.
Um, but uh, but yeah, we'll beout there and uh folks can show
up and uh explore uh hf usingthe club call too.

so it'll be a really neat experience, I
think, and looking forward tothat, but yeah, yeah, that'll be
good and, uh, I guess I, I Ipiggybacked on your 2025, jim,
you did.
I have a sort of I don't thinkit's going to happen in 2025

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list, but I'm curious to seewhat would happen.
Never say never, maybe evendivulges off the topic a little
bit too.
Okay, I'm curious more thananything.
I don't think anything's reallygoing to happen, but I'm
curious with AI and all theavailability of AI, the buzz of
AI, the tools available, nvidialaunching its own personal AI

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computer for $3,000 at theConsumer Electronics Show this
last weekend.
If it ever comes into ham radioand again, don't think 2025 is
a year I think ham radio is ahobby that is, uh, loves its
traditions.
It's a hobby with some frugalindividuals that love building
their own equipment, which isawesome, and one of the other

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side hobbies.
That's one of the best parts,um, but you know there are a lot
of advantages, especially asmanufacturers start to build
more radios.
With sdr, uh, you look at, lookat active noise cancellation
through AI algorithms.
You look at some more automatedlogging for contesting being an
option and some support there.
I'm curious.
I'm curious at Hamvention orany of these other activities.

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If that starts to become atopic, again, I'm not very
hopeful.
Nor would I personally think Iwould enjoy it.
But again, if the buzz carriesover into other parts of my life
, I guess.

I think the big thing oh, go ahead.

Rory, I'd like to hear yours.
So how far in AI?
Because if you really want tolook at it, it's already started
.
Look at, we've been doing somework with the local repeater
here here and we've chosen to goai for for some of the speaking
voices on it at some point soit's it started, how it's not
not gone very far.
But could it get to the pointwhere, instead of very manually

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making those voices, um, do whatthey do, could we, could we
have a prompt, or we could wecould program right into it and
it would read it without havingto record it and upload?

it and do all the things.

So you know it's already starting.
So, and someone at work todayour marketing guy, was telling
me about a conference he went torecently and I guess our cloud
service that we use at work it'sa large company.
It's a large company.
They have an AI overlay to itto where, instead of searching

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for your files, you just give ita brief prompt of which file
you want and it finds it using.

AI.

So AI is going to start doing all the
things, and I wouldn't besurprised if it shows up in ham
radio more than just what we'reusing it for here.

Yeah, Well, even things like Jim I'll give
you a second here even thingslike propagation reporting and
data analytics seeing what youcould get out of that from a
more maybe tactile, actual,usable data for a lot of hams
that go to a website and here'sthe AI generated model of
propagation or the best chanceto make a contact with if you

(35:44):
want that rare DX somewhere,this maybe is your best time,
which I know.
Those models are out there, Iknow the graphs are there and
there's a lot of really goodwebsites that have that.
But you start to add some,let's say, intelligence behind
it or more quick data analytics.
It becomes a little moreintriguing.
It becomes more.
I was just going to say I thinkthat your example is prime.

It's what I was thinking about saying right
out of the gate, which is itbecomes more approachable, right
?
I don't necessarily know andthis is going to sound
ridiculous, right?
I've only been operating HF fora few months.
I don't necessarily know how touse the beacon stations right,
for example, and so what?
There we go.
So those things that seasonedhams have used and leveraged to

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understand better propagationand where they can get out to so
that they can becomecompetitive in events.
I think that what this does isit makes that type of thing more
approachable to newer hams,folks that are still learning it
, and what I hope happens isthat in doing that, it will
expose those hams in a way thatsays okay, that's a really
useful tool.
I'm going to go learn a littlemore about it so that I could do

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it myself if I need to Now noteverybody's going to do that At
some point or another, ifsomebody makes dinner for me, I
probably am going to love thatdinner gets made for me, right?
But if the propagation reportsare easy to get, I love that.
Sure, I'll take a look, I'llsee where I can get out and then
I'll point my antenna in thatdirection.
And now this all presumes thatI have a beam, which I do not,

(37:10):
on this house here, so not yet.
Not yet it would be great.
And I had one other thoughtthere, which is to say that I
don't necessarily think we'regoing to see AI in the sense
that we see it in a lot of thenetworked applications on our
computers yet, but I do thinkthat we'll start to see it nip
at some of the addedenhancements, and one of the

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things you mentioned that Ithink is really likely to see at
first is the ability to cleanup audio in more effective ways.
Right Filtering could benefittremendously from being able to
be cleaned up and made legibleat lower powers.
And I think that what you'regoing to see is, with enough
cleanup, you start to competewith some of these digital modes

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that are very low power onsideband, on phone and some of
those other places.
Now that's a longer shot.
Right, that's going to take alot of work, but I do think that
that's where it's going tostart to shine is being able to
enhance some of those thingsthat we've been doing using
initially analog and now digitalfilters.
Seeing those things evolve evenfurther and I think places like
Flex Radio are probably goingto be the first folks to do it,

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because they're already SDR.
They're already developing anexpansive suite of software, but
we'll find out, and I'm excitedto see what that looks like in
coming years.
Rory had something there.

I don't know that I did.
I think I was just agreeingwith what you were saying.
But the idea of AI on theessentially the way you describe
it coming on as a digital mode,is very interesting and it does
make sense that it wouldpotentially be able to do that
at some point Pick a weak signal, clean it up and spit it back

(38:48):
out to where you can hear it.
That's fascinating and I neverthought about it that way, but
that would take a lot of thingsto a new level if that became an
option.
And unfortunately, I'm not smartenough to create it because I
could probably make some money.

And that's a little bit why I said it's a
moonshot for me, because youlook at a mode like FT8, ft4,
weak signal propagation or those, and that's still a
controversial mode foractivating for some people.
We have members that love FT8.
We have members that don'tunderstand FT8.
We have members that just meh,it's not for me and I'll never

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do it, and all are right.
There's no wrong answer there.
But you start to add in more,let's say AI-based features or
something.
I wonder if people would bemore pushed back to it.

Yeah, it would be interesting to understand
whether or not operators willembrace something that seems to
take some of the control out oftheir hands.
That's what I always look at it, and when we talk about the
digital modes, I think that'sone of the big reasons that
there is consternation, so tospeak, on those modes.
Right, it doesn't feel as atraditional ham, like they're
doing all the things that wererequired to make a contact, and

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so it feels almost easier, and Ithink that's a good thing,
because it does make itapproachable for certain people.
Yeah, absolutely yeah, yeah.

I mean again , I'm not using it as a
derogatory term.
You have some people thatconsider themselves appliance
operators.
They just want to buy something,plug it in, have relative
success with it, and to them,making those use-os is all they
want, they're perfectly happyAgain.
There's nothing wrong with that, it's fine.
But then you have people thatwant to hit the knobs, they want

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to hit the buttons, they wantto hear the static, and you know
, it's kind of why I'm in radio.
I want to feel like I'm doingsomething a little bit here and
that I have some control andexperiment and see how things
change when I turn the knob alittle bit differently.

Yeah, manipulate the dials right and
see what your change results,manipulate the dials and see
what results of your changes.
So no, I love that idea.
I think I'm totally inagreement with you.
I don't think this is the yearthat we see it in a big way, but
I think that's probably a twoor three year out type of thing,

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and I would also say thatwhenever somebody asks me about
this in just a general contextAI in a general context, because
it's everywhere right now.
We're so early on in theevolution of what it's going to
be that we don't necessarilyunderstand it yet, and I think
that it is currently mostly amarketing term and and and
that's heavily.

(41:24):
Yeah, and that, and that's wherewe're at with it right now, and
there are certainly some brightlights, uh, that it will uh,
certainly probably develop from,but not, not, not yet.
So we'll see what happensthough.

That's why I said moonshot.
I'm curious.
It's more of a curiosity, andif it's going to come out, it's
going to be Hamvention or theTokyo radio show, probably.
Tokyo, yeah, I had to pick twoactivity or inventions that it
may come out at in the future.

Well, that's a great little segue, since we're
still talking a little bitabout 2025 and Hamvention here
as our excitement for the year.
Yep, bring it right back around.
Are there any things this yearat Hamvention that you think
that we're going to see, thatare going to be exciting, or
have we already seen all ofthose things at Tokyo's Ham Show

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?

Well, you know, I'm excited to get my
hands on and see, hopefully, thenew Kenwood mobile that's,
that's a big one for me.
Um, that we, we all got teasedwith with the uh, the Tokyo show
, the great, the grainy photo,the grainy photo.
And that was one of those funnythings.
None of you guys caught thatand I'm like didn't anyone see
that?
That that big old thing, iconthat it was showing off that

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everyone wanted to see this.
What is it?
7650 yeah, the flex beast,basically yeah I could have
cared less about that, becauseI'll never own one, but the 7760
7760 yep, good, I'm glad I'mgood at numbers, but you were
close.
Yeah, the Kenwood.
There's a few other things,small things.

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When you get to Dayton Jim, Ithink you'll understand this
when you start seeing thesmaller booths with the more
innovative, the more randomstuff.
I shouldn't say the more randomstuff, but the people that have
created something.
The guy who, for example, theguy you know, everyone in the
club is aware I run the compacttenna, the little funny looking

(43:23):
antenna that that sits on theback corner of your vehicle for
my mobile.
You know that guy's at thatdate and talking about all his
crazy ideas.
You know, last year he wasshowing off a, I think, a 40
meter antenna that sits in abucket.
I mean, it's literally thebucket, you know.
You know, those are the thingsI look forward to, more than the
big radios that are there forsale.
It's fun to see the new stuff.

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And one other thing that'scontinuing to grow as POTA grows
is portable power.
I think we'll see some moreoptions and cheaper options for
portable power at Dayton thisyear too.

Yeah, I mean two things there.
I think the innovative stuff isdefinitely usually going to
come from those kind ofhomebrewers still, and it's
exciting to see those guys stillshowing up to a big show like
Hamvention and putting it allout there right, showing these
smaller or niche products thatthey've developed and they may
work well and they may not.

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I think that the 40 meterbucket antenna that you talked
about I did look at at somepoint because I'm in an HOA.
I thought, oh, I'll throw itout in the backyard.
Reviews were somewhat mixed soI decided I'll go a different
direction.
But it was just a really coolthing to see that that was an
option for you as a ham and it'sthe size of a paint pail, so
it's really not that big.
You as a ham, and it's the sizeof a paint pail, so it's really

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not that big.
But no, I think that thatanswer is really interesting.
The Kenwood mobile rig is goingto be exciting to see.
I think it was a sort ofsleeper at the Tokyo Fair.
It got overshadowed by theFTX1F, which is the Yaesu QRP
rig that's coming out thateverybody's got a pre-order for.
I do, I think James does.

Yeah, I put in my $35, I believe, yeah,
we're holding one.

Who knows if we order it.
But we both have the pre-orderand the 7760, right, so the
Kenwood kind of snuck under theradar, so I hope that at Dayton
they make a little more of asplash with it.
It does look like it will bevery much.
If you're a D75 operator.
D74 operator, it's going tofeel right at home and I hope
that it has all of the coolestfeatures that you're looking for
.

That's the hope I have with that radio
because I do run the D74handheld.
Been very, very pleased with itand to have that in the mobile
and it'll be a big upgrade.
I do run the FTM 500 Yaesu inthe mobile but that I put in the
mobile simply just to learnwith and play about Fusion a
little bit.
But my primary mobile is theolder ID5100 ICOM which now is

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probably a 10-year-old radio atleast Would you say you're
primarily an ICOM user.

Are we already picking camps?

There's no good answer for that.
I have.
I have friends that would, atleast for me.
There's no good answer there,because I have friends who make
fun of me, because there was atime when I said I will never
buy a yezu or I would never buyan icon or I'm not buying a
kenwood they're too expensiveyou can't do that, so yeah you
know there there are uhcompanies that manufacturers of

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radios that I won't purchase,but that's another story for
another time.
Oh, yep, but no, I thinkprimarily I am a Yaesu person
that owns ICOM.
I generally am more satisfiedwith my Yaesu products.
My 891HF rig, I love it.
I mean to me it has everythingit needs um, the, the, the 500,

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the ftm 500 excellent radio um,and at some point I will have a
yesu on the desk here to havefusion in the house.
So, um, you know it will happen.
Uh, falling into the icon worldat the time was because I was
operating a lot of d star at thetime and that was their thing,
so yeah.

Icon was a little bit ahead of Yesu as far
as digital was adoption wasconcerned.

Yeah, by by a little bit, by maybe a year or
so, D star was out and then, andthen they may have been out at
the same time, but D star got alittle bit more attention a
little earlier than than fusiondid.

Yeah, attention a little earlier than
than fusion did.
Yeah, james, what do you mostlyoperate?
Do you have any thoughts?
What can't man getting thrown?
Right into the camp bucketright um.
I'm probably not much differentthan rory I.
I like yezu products.
Um.
The 891 is my, my, uh, mytrusty poda slash travel radio.

Um so did I catch you have two of those.
I missed that.
I didn't realize you had asecond one.

You bought a second one I bought a second one
.

I full-time mounted one in the Jeep for the
ATAS.

I knew you did that, but I didn't realize
it was a dedicated second rig.
Good work.

Because I didn't want to give up my
dedicated POTA radio either.

I love it, it fits nicely in my backpack.

That's a good one.
That would be too crazy.
Plus, I figured it was neverbad.
What was it?
Mike W8MSC?
I think it was him.
If you like it and it'savailable, buy two, because you
never know when you're going toneed the spare.
Basically, it's good advice tolive by, especially when it
comes to things like masks.
The radio is maybe a bit muchbecause that's a high price item

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.
Let's not get too carried away.
But yeah, um, but my, my trustyhf radio at the moment is a
icon 7300.
That's what I have in thebasement and it's it's.
It's good for me.
I like it.
It's uh compact, it has thefeatures.
But, um, I tend to like theyuzu inner, which is maybe a
little bit uh controversial.

I tend to like the yuzu interface.

Um, I feel like the menu systems to me
actually make sense and get inand get going and I like them
and I like the performance and Ilike the styling, which is
maybe the least ham thing to say.

No, I think that's totally fair.
I mean, a lot of us do.
Yeah, you like the look of theradio too.
I think that's a totally fairthing to say.
I've heard the Yaesu productsare likened to a more audiophile
equipment type appeal oraesthetic, which is like big
knobs and like old stereo look,whereas the Icom stuff does look
a little bit more digital, youknow buttons and touchscreens

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and that type of thing.
I do think that Yaesu has movedmore in that direction recently
.
But you're absolutely right,that is, I think, a
controversial decision.
As far as preferring the YaesuUI, I like the menus.

Yeah, over the Ui.
I want to be heard again.

Comparing that Yaesu kind of has a fine
line.
I mean they kind of do both.
Look at the 500.
Gigantic knob, but also atouchscreen.

That's true.
That's true the smallesttouchscreen known to man, by the
way.

I always forget it's a touchscreen, but
it is a touchscreen.

If you have a tiny stylus in your pocket, you
can use it, but if you havesausage fingers like myself.

Good luck, I think, for myself, maybe going
back to invention really quickly, because we're probably running
a little bit out of time here.
I'm curious to see in terms ofsolar panels Again, we're pretty
heavily I think we made thisclear by this point we're pretty
heavily I think we made thisclear by this point we're pretty
heavily in mobile operation andPOTA and you know, like
Powerfilm Solar with thecrystalline PV, I think they are

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panels, the really lightweight,really foldable panels.
I'm curious to see if the pricestarts to drop on those a
little bit, because right nowthey're definitely out of my
market.
Maybe if I spent a little lesstime buying two P91s I could
probably afford one, but justthat type of mobile power.

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The LiPo are excellent batteries, but if you're going to go out
and sit at a campground or apark somewhere out in the
wilderness for a little while,it's nice to have that charging
option and those seem to be,from a portability standpoint,
they can't be beat.
And I have the BioNL panels nowI'm trying to remember which
one, which model.
They're great, fold up to aboutbriefcase size, obviously, much

(50:49):
thinner than a briefcase,absolutely, but it's still
chunky.
It's still a little bit of apain to set up and just to see
where the panels start to go inthe marketplace.

I think the power situation has evolved so
quickly too.
Batteries specifically.
In the last couple of yearswe've gotten much less expensive
high quality cells that areable to run our radios for
longer in the field and morereliably than ever before so
many manufacturers and options.
Yep, yep, it used to be a veryfew that you could buy from and

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you were looking at manyhundreds of dollars to get a
fairly, uh, you know, small sellUh.
But no, in the last uh, even 12months, I think, we've seen a
dramatic reduction in price andquality Uh, and that's really
exciting to see because it doesmake the hobby more accessible,
especially if you're going outwith your radio and doing poda,
for example, or taking it mobileor going camping.
It's just there's so manyapplications.

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So yeah, rory, that's a greatgreat thing to keep an eyeball
out for at Hamvention is what'shappening in the power space,
because that's one of thosethings that's evolving really
quickly, and you mentioned.

You mentioned the size and all that getting
so much.
That was probably my originalbarrier to entry to POTA is I
wasn't tuned in well enough tounderstand how good batteries
and small batteries had become.

Yeah.

And I started seeing online and some friends
of mine purchasing all thesevarious batteries that exist now
and I'm like I can get thislittle thing and go play radio
for an hour and then suddenlyI'm out doing POTA all the time.

So, yeah, it's all the gateway it was.

I still have some batteries here that are
from that, when I bought somethat didn't last long.
Anyway but yeah, it's come along way, Boy, getting me
excited for Dayton.
We still have a few months towait.

It's going to come quicker than you expect.
I have the campsite booked.
I know that the entirety of theclub I think well, not the
entirety, but we have a good 10or so people that are planning
on coming.

We got a good caravan going at the
campground what Caesar Creek,we'll have a good section, if
you will, of club members, whichis again that's some of the
most exciting parts of it is togo and see everything and
everyone else's setups and shakehands and kiss babies.

I love it.

I love it, it's going to be great.

Yeah, it's indicative of how vibrant the
club is right now.
I'll say that out loud again.
We've seen a lot of new facesin our club this year, and a lot
of faces that have not hadthese experiences that many of
these long-term hams have sothis year, and a lot of faces
that have not had theseexperiences that many of these
long-term hams have.
So, uh, looking forward to uhlearning a little bit from you
guys that have done it fourtimes Rory, uh, two times James,

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right, and uh, and going downthere, and uh, I'll, I'll, I'll
find my way around.
It'll be a little bit likeBraille to be, to begin with,
right, I'll, I'm sure I'll makesome little bit different.

But I think the second year it's ham radio
Disneyland.
You'll be in awe, yeah it is alot of fun and there's so much
to see, and that's the thing too.
Kind of back to Rory's part.
I'm excited now I get to spendmore time on those small niche
things that I can.
My eyes will be wider and it'llbe fun.

You'll be able to focus on the things that
you're most interested this year.
Right, you've learned a littlebit from your previous visits
and now you'll take that backand say I'm going to spend my
time here because that's what'svaluable to me as a ham.

Yeah, this year I'll be down there for the
longest duration.
I'll be spending the most timeat Hamvention that I ever have,
so it'll buy a lot of time tospend out at the flea market.
I expect to walk around thereand not have to rush through it,
because, to look at that wholething, well, it's really two
things.
It's a lot to look at and ifyou do it all at once, the

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ground is uneven and your backwill start to hurt.
So you have to break it up andI'm not ready to be one of the
scooter people at Dayton.

Oh yeah.

I'm still a good 20 years from now.
Still holding out, eh.
But yeah, I intend to spend alot more time out in the flea
market this year looking attreasures and not so much
treasures, because that's thepart that I've always had to
rush through.
Every year I've been there.

Well, the good news is you'll have a very
interested pal in thatexperience, because I love a
good deal and I love siftingthrough the ham radio junk.

So we'll go out there and spend a day or two
out there, whatever we need toto find all the goodies, the
amount of club text messageswe're all going to get, of
screen grabs of someone's tableat the flea market from.

Jim is probably going to be.

We're probably gonna have to block you
, but I did say that, uh, I'm my.

My grail item is to go find an Alinko DJ C5.
It is their credit cardtransceiver VHF, uhf, uh, metal
case, uh, so it adopts theoriginal style, case uh, and it
has the speaker built in so youdon't have to wear the stupid
speaker in your ear.
And I am excited If I find one.
I'm sure the battery is notgoing to work, but I'll take it
apart.
I'll fix the battery and it'sgoing to be awesome.

There it is.
Mark my words.
It was such a big deal whenthat thing came out.
I remember that it was crazy.
It was crazy, it was such a bigdeal.
I don't know You'll find one.
Dayton works.
It's one of everything.

If you're listening and you don't know
what the Elinko DJC5 is, go putit in Google and stare at it in
awe.
I'm just kidding.
It is a really neat little rig.

You don't want to oversell it right now
because you want to try to findone.

That's right.
Don't buy it.
If you see it at Hamvention,tell them NAJRD will be around
in short order to pick it up.

Put but fine , all right, so maybe before we
go, a little housekeeping.
Yeah, so we're going to go formonthly format.
I believe was what we'reshooting for.
So I think we have an Instagramwhich is at Everyday Ham
Podcast.
There we go.
We have an email address.
Now we're officialeverydayhampodcast at gmailcom.
We're always looking forsuggestions.
We'll probably drop somecontent in between, let's say
the uh episodes regularlyscheduled episodes Yep.

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Um, but yeah, if.
If anyone does like this, youknow, please share it with your
uh fellow friends and friends,and we'll we'll try to do this
for ourselves here and then andshare what we've learned with
everyone else as well.

Yeah, I think this is an exciting opportunity.
I think it's a good group offolks here.
I'm excited to work with youguys on this.
I hope that we do come up witha couple of interesting topics
that pique folks' interests andI am excited to see if we can
get a couple of folks to give usgood ideas as we progress.
That won't be in the firstcouple of months.
We're going to come up withsome topics and we hope that
you're interested, but as we go,check out the Instagram there,

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throw some ideas in the comments.
All of us will be monitoringthose and we'll try to come up
with some nice intermediatecontent and love to hear
feedback on how this firstepisode went.
What did you like, what did wemiss on, so that we can kind of
evolve this as we go, becausewe're brand new.

None of us have done a podcast before, as
far as I am concerned and don'ttell us we don't know how to
stay on topic.

We've already realized that, and I don't think
that's going to improve.

I have no promises to that regard.

Well we can maybe promise is the off topics
will get a little moreentertaining value.
I can almost guarantee that.
Yeah, they will.

We promise.

All right With that.
Thank you everyone, and we lookforward to staying in touch
with everyone.
So give us your ideas, give usyour suggestions and we'll keep
doing this.
7-3's everybody N-A-J-R-Esigning off 7-3.

Good night.

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