September 14, 2025 • 44 mins
What if everything that happens in your life isn't happening to you, but for you? This perspective-shifting conversation with Jackie explores how reframing our challenges can transform our entire experience of life.
Jackie's journey begins with a simple yet profound "aha moment" when she realized how certain relationships were depleting her energy. This awareness became the foundation for a life of conscious choices about where and with whom she invested her time and energy, a skill that would prove invaluable through the extraordinary challenges ahead.
At just 15 years old, Jackie became a mother in a small country town where judgments and limitations were quickly placed upon her. Rather than seeing this as a setback, she and her son "grew up together" in what she describes as a journey of mutual discovery rather than traditional parenting. This unconventional beginning fostered a beautiful mother-son relationship that would later help her navigate the devastating loss of her son when he was 34.
Through grief came unexpected awakening when Jackie discovered Reiki and energy work, practices that opened doorways to understanding that there was deeper meaning behind every experience in her life. "It was like remembering who I truly am and what I came here for," she explains. This spiritual journey expanded into explorations of bioenergetics and the science of how our emotional states affect our physical wellbeing.
Jackie's story exemplifies what it means to be an everyday warrior, someone who has faced numerous adversities including childhood trauma, teen motherhood, violent relationships and profound loss, yet has transformed each experience into an opportunity for growth and service to others. By choosing to see everything that happened "for her" rather than "to her," she created a life of purpose and meaning.
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Welcome to another episode ofthe Everyday Warriors podcast,
and today my guest is fromAdelaide and we met in an online
space and have since becomeamazing friends and mentors.
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And I have so much time forthis lady, so I'd like to
welcome Jackie.
Jacqui (03:50):
Thank you so much for having me.
Trudie Marie (03:53):
You're welcome and I know and I've learned so much
about you in our friendshipover the last few months, and
what I want to start with isthat you said that you had an
aha moment about 30 to 35 yearsago.
So take us back then.
Jacqui (04:10):
Yeah, it was one of those.
You know, you have so manythings happen to you when, when
you're younger and and you know,probably, if I did the math, it
could have even been a bitlonger than that, but it's it's
a good place to start.
But essentially I was visitinga girlfriend and and we were
really close friends, likereally close friends, and I went
and visited her and I got intomy car after we I'd probably
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been there for a couple of hourshaving coffees and chats and
things as you do, and I got backinto my car and I sat in the
car and I'm just like, oh, Iactually don't feel very good,
and I don't mean in the physicalform, I just didn't feel great
about myself.
And then I paused for a momentand realised actually, each time
that I come and spend time withthis particular person and she
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was a lovely person I actuallyjust didn't feel very good about
myself when I left and for meit was this bit of a, it was
like an aha moment to go oh,hang on a sec.
People that you spend time with,environments that you spend
time with, actually have areally big dictator on how you
feel about yourself, and I thinkit was more around.
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It was about the feeling and itwas about recognise that
feeling that you're actuallyhaving inside your body and, oh,
should I actually be spendingtime with this person?
Should I limit time that Ispend with this person?
Because if I don't feel goodwhen I go there, then why would
I be going there?
So it sort of took me down thatjourney of starting to pay a
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lot more attention to what Ifelt and being able to start to
understand if I don't feel good,let's honour that and actually
don't put yourself into thosepositions.
So I guess I started to listento my body a lot more and listen
to those feelings rather thanjust oh, but she's my friend,
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therefore I have to.
You know all of those socialconstructs that came around and,
growing up in the country as Idid, everything was always
around the social constructs andwhat you shall do and what you
shall not do.
And then you throw in the factthat you know I was a very young
mum.
I actually had my son justafter I turned 15.
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And so, again, in a smallcountry town, you're essentially
put in this box.
Here's who you're going to be.
You did not finish high school.
Therefore, you had a child whenyou're really young.
Therefore, you get all of thesedifferent labels and things.
So for me to be able to justpause and stop and have that aha
moment to go, be able to justpause and stop and have that aha
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moment to go well, hang on asec, I actually need to listen
to me and I need to honour mejust sort of started creating a
different, I guess energeticconnection to how I felt and
started to play with the world.
Trudie Marie (06:58):
It's interesting when you say that about what we
spend time doing and think thatthat's okay, but then we're left
with this feeling that actually, no, I'm not okay and you may
have had a good time, you mayhave, you know, you may really
enjoy that other person'scompany because they're nice
people, but how it leaves youfeeling is, yeah, literally like
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depleted or energetically likea black hole, but then we
continue to put ourselves intothose situations as a whole.
I think everybody in societycould relate to that but, unlike
you, not everybody takes thetime to actually stop, listen
and adjust what we do from there, yeah, and I think that that
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was sort of one of the keypoints for me.
Jacqui (07:46):
It was like, well, hang on a sec, I want to feel good.
So why am I going todeliberately, like with that
informed perspective, put myselfinto a circumstance where I
don't feel good?
You know, and it was more therewas never anything deliberate or
any type of malice around herlooking to make me feel bad.
It was more just where ourconversations went and there was
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always lots of reminders aboutall of the dumb stuff that
perhaps I'd done when I wasyounger, because we'd known
ourselves for years and therewas a bit of a list of things
that I may have challenged theworld with.
But, yeah, it was reallyimportant for me to sort of go
no, hang on a sec, I'm stillgoing to spend time with this
person, but I'm going to limitit and I'm going to do it sort
of more on my terms and I'mgoing to actually decide what
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the topics of conversations aregoing to be, because I actually
don't need to be reminded aboutall of the dumb stuff I've ever
done because I lived it.
So if I'm going to remindmyself, I'll do that, but I
didn't need anybody else to bedoing it for me, so yeah, I
totally get it.
Trudie Marie (08:46):
And just taking you back to, you said that you
were a young mum, that youbecame a mum when you were 16.
Did this aha moment also thenaffect how you parented and like
what it was like to be a parentafter that?
Jacqui (09:00):
Yeah, Well, it's interesting that you even use
the word parent.
I mean, I was actually 15 whenI had my son and I think it
wasn't about parenting, it wasabout survival.
And you know, I was very, verylucky.
My family were extremelysupportive, so I don't know what
I would have done without them.
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They were absolutely fabulous.
But it really was a case of Idon't know how to parent.
And for me, even when peopleused to bring their children to
our house, I would actually goand walk the dog.
You know, I was never the babyperson.
I was never the you'd hang outwith the little people person.
So for me it was also like thishang on a second.
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Now I'm supposed to be agrown-up and now I'm responsible
for another small human and andwhat does this actually look
like?
So I don't know that I was everparenting.
I think that together we weremore in the survival and we
pretty much grew up together, ifthat makes sense.
So, yeah, it was never a caseof I'm a parent what does a
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parent do?
That thought never crossed mymind.
It was more of I'm responsiblefor somebody.
Okay, if they're fed andclothed, we're in a good role.
You know, that was a greatplace to start.
That was probably more how Iseen it was not so much about
being a parent, but just how tosurvive in these circumstances.
And when I say survive, itdidn't mean it was negative, it
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was just more.
The word parent didn't evenreally come into my mind either.
Trudie Marie (10:32):
And I suppose it's such a difficult thing for many
people to grasp.
I know I didn't become a parentuntil my mid-20s and I was very
, very maternal growing up.
I always babysat my sisters andmy cousins and other people's
kids, and that was very much me.
So I feel like I fell naturallyinto becoming a mother.
But I just look at it and go at15, you're still discovering
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who you are in the world and Iknow that you had some other
traumas associated prior to thatthat you're now having to deal
with not only that and your lifeand being a 15 year old.
But now you've got somebodyelse and I love how you said you
grew up together becauseliterally you were learning
along the way and your son waslearning along the way as well.
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So it was almost like this yousaid survive together.
But it was almost this dualhand in hand let's discover the
world together yeah, that's,that's exactly what it was.
Jacqui (11:29):
And so my Steve's, my son's name was Steve and I say
was because he has actuallypassed.
Um, he passed about six yearsago now.
Um, no, five, five and a half.
You know time flies and I amjust forever grateful.
Was that a situation that Ithought, oh, let's go out and
become a mum?
Well, no, that was never on mylist of things to do.
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I think you go looking forconnection in many different
places.
My younger brother had actuallypassed only a month and a half
from the time that I gotpregnant.
So, know, there was certainlythat searching for connection in
all the different ways, becausemy family, certainly it was
challenged.
He was only 11 when my brotherpassed.
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There was lots of challengesgoing through a family, as you
would appreciate, at thatparticular time, with the loss
of a child, and especially formy father, with the loss of a
son, like his only son.
So, through that it really wasSteve and I, we, we did, we grew
up together and the lessonsthat I have taken so far through
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this lifetime because of himcoming into my world, oh, my
goodness, like I could probablywrite 10 books, you know it's.
You can't even start to toconsider what it's, you know,
you can't even start to considerwhat it's like to appreciate
and I do every day.
I appreciate the fact that hecame into my world because I
don't know that I would havebecome a mum had it not have
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been in that circumstance.
I wouldn't have had all ofthose experiences, I wouldn't
have had all of thoseinteresting moments as we do
when you have the child and theparent both growing up together,
as we do when you have thechild and the parent both
growing up together.
But even in his passing, thelessons that I have been able to
take in this lifetime becauseof Steve being a part of it, I
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will be forever grateful,because I don't think I would
have done half of the thingsthat I've now done had it not
have been for him being in myworld.
So, yeah, it's funny whenpeople come and go in all of the
different forms in my world.
So, yeah, it's funny whenpeople come and go in all of the
different forms in our lifetime, and sometimes they're
physically related and sometimesthey're friends in passing or
whatever that looks like.
But, yes, forever grateful forhim being part of my world.
Trudie Marie (13:39):
I love that and it takes me back to a saying of
yeah, people will be in yourlife for a reason, a season or a
lifetime, and often you don'tknow until they're gone, in
whatever form.
That is that you come tounderstand or realize why they
were actually there and whattheir purpose was.
In your life, lessons and whatyou experience, but talking
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about like obviously aha momentand and dealing with your
feelings and putting yourselfinto situations how did that
then change for you?
Obviously you lost your brotherquite young, and then losing
Steve I'm going to guess stillreasonably young, uh is how did
then you relate his passing intodealing with yourself and your
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body and your feelings?
Jacqui (14:28):
Yeah, so when Steve passed he was actually 34.
So you know he was an adult andhas a child of his own and
things as well.
But for me, it really sent medown a path of there has to be
more, sent me down a path ofthere has to be more each time
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we had those connections.
So the passing of my youngerbrother and having those
experiences because I was 14 atthe time when he passed, and
it's sort of like what else isgoing on here there was always
this element of there's a reasonfor everything.
I guess I've always had that aspart of my world.
But looking at it and sort ofgoing, okay, so there's a
passing here, but now we havesomebody new coming in.
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So Steve coming in, and thenthere's all of the learnings
that you have and all parents.
I don't think it matters whatage you become a parent.
Everybody can relate to thefact that.
Okay, they don't come as littlepeople do not come with
instruction manuals no, theydon't all of the books under the
sun, but they certainly don'tcome with instruction manuals.
You're sort of just feeling andlearning and experiencing.
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But in reflection on thepassing of steve, it was almost
like a completely new door openfor me and it was very much.
I'm forever grateful that mysister suggested that I go and
do a Reiki course Now, nevereven had Reiki, didn't even know
what Reiki was, but completelytrusted that this was an
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experience that my sister hadbeen having and so booked into
this Reiki course, which turnedout to be about three or four
weeks after the passing of myson that I'm now sitting in this
room with a group of strangersand we're going to sit on a mat
and we're going to do somethingcalled meditation Well, I've
never done that either and we'regoing to talk all things around
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whatever Reiki is.
And that was probably thebiggest awakening that I have
ever had, outside of all of theother elements of learning.
This was like my wake up moment.
It was almost like I went tothis complete period of
remembering that this is who Itruly am.
This is what I came here for.
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This is why I had all of theexperiences of people not
treating you nicely as a childand they came in all different
forms, but the growth that youhave of being a parent at a
young age and it just sort oflike everything then made sense
because all of a sudden therewas this awakening through
sitting in this little roomdoing reiki, meditation, all of
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the, the elements that come withthat.
It was just like, oh, holy crap, this, this is.
There's a reason for all ofthis and it has taken my world
over the last five and a halfyou know, six years down a
completely different pathway,which I've actually found is
easy and it flows, because everyelement of the being stuck in a
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box, of being judged by others,it was like all of a sudden
there was a reason for it and ithas just completely transformed
the way that I turn up for theworld, I play with the world, I
connect with the world and beingopen to doing different things
that we do because you're goingto gain something from it that
the knowledge that you gain isjust going to be incredible.
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So it's funny how the differentpaths and the different
opportunities that turn up and Ialways say for us, it's not to
us, because when we can sit backand appreciate and see things
from the light of knowledge andgrowth that they've provided us.
You have to see that withappreciation, you have to see
that with gratitude andtherefore it's for us, because
the knowledge that you have tosee that with appreciation, you
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have to see that with gratitudeand therefore it's for us,
because the knowledge that youhave and how you can then
support others and and you knowturn up just every single day.
You see it from a differentperspective and it's very, very
fun when you let it.
Trudie Marie (18:20):
I love that and I totally agree that it's changing
that perspective of things thathappen to us and they actually
happen for us and I know thatfor myself with everything that
I went through with WA Policethat at the time I was very much
in the space of this happenedto me, and it wasn't until I
hiked the bib that I actuallywas like no, this happened for
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me.
There's a reason for all ofthis that life culminates in
weird and mysterious ways.
That leads us to where we needto go, and what was there for me
inside of that was when you goback to looking and you talked
about the judgments and theroles of you're a teen mom and
you didn't finish high schooland there was all this negative
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connotation around that, but youkind of used it to your
advantage even back then thatyou said that you grew together
and that you lived together andthen miraculously, for whatever
reason whether Steve had part ofthat you were led to this new
path of actually going down anddoing something that you never
thought possible.
But I feel like, even thoughyou probably consciously didn't
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know, like you said, you'venever done meditation and you've
never heard of Reiki but you'dalready had that aha moment of
hold on a second.
I need to listen to my body, soit's almost like that little
aha moment almost led you to sayyes to the Reiki in the first
place.
Jacqui (19:42):
Absolutely.
And I think those little ahamoments turn up on a regular
basis and they're always there.
It's just whether we letourselves hear them or let
ourselves see them.
And I'll take you to anotherlittle story which I've shared
with a few people but not thatmany people over the years that
I was in.
I was actually in WA, funnilyenough, and I was doing some
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work.
I used to do lots of fly aroundthe the countryside for one of
my jobs and I was standing inline just to get a bottle of
drink at a local service stationdown in Bunbury and there was a
, a younger guy in front of meand, and the poor thing, his
bank card had broken.
So he was trying to like swipeas you used to have to with the
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you know bank cards back then.
He was trying to swipeliterally like the little strip
to pay for his $10 worth ofpetrol, and this not so pleasant
lady who was serving him wasgiving him a bit of a hard time
because it was starting to be abit of a line up and a few
people waiting etc.
And in the end I just sort ofchipped in and said that's right
, mate.
I said I'll get your fuel foryou.
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And he just looked at me andthe look of gratitude on his
face because he kept saying tothis lady look, I'll just go
down to the bank you know, I'mjust on my way to a job
interview and I've just got tojust said no, no, it's all good,
mate, I'll get it.
And so he very, you know,gratefully, went off and got in
his car and I'm paying for mybottle of soft drink and and his
ten dollars worth of petrol.
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And the lady behind the counter, she looks at me, she goes well
, that's an expensive bottle ofdrink, isn't it?
And I said no, actually it'snot, and that's entirely my
choice.
And I went happily on my wayand that was fine.
And a few weeks later I went upto our local supermarket and it
was a relatively quietsupermarket, especially sort of
into the to the later evening,and I went in and I grabbed my
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few groceries and I came backout and there was probably only
half a dozen cars in the carpark.
You know it was a smaller spaceand I kid you not.
I get to the door of my car andI look down and there is a ten
dollar note sitting on theground at my car door and I'm
looking around, there isliterally not another soul in
the entire place that they couldhave, you know, dropped it or
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whatever it looked like, but itwas literally right at my feet,
at my car door, and so I pickedup that ten dollar note.
I thanked the universe verymuch because I figured that they
were just returning the tendollars that I'd lent this young
guy, and so I popped it into mypurse and then off.
I went home and again, it wasjust another point of reflection
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and this was way before I didthe, you know, the Reiki's or
any of the things, and becauseI've done so many different
modalities, now, as soon as thatdoor was opened in Reiki time,
it was just like, oh my goodness, there's so much else to play
with, but just that little $10note coming back and just sort
of going all right again,there's some more in this.
What else is going on universe,what else is going on in our
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world?
So, yeah, it's the littlethings that turn up for us,
which I think is really fun forus to learn how to play with.
Trudie Marie (22:41):
Yeah, and that's.
It's such a beautiful story ontwo levels, the first being that
people underestimate what it'slike to have a random act of
kindness bestowed upon them, andI've done it myself in the past
.
I mean, you used to be able togive away your parking tickets.
Now they seem to do yourparking tickets by your
registration plate, which annoysme because it's like I used to
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give my time to somebody else.
But it's those little thingsthat you just don't understand,
or you can't even comprehendwhat that ripple effect is going
to be.
You doing that for thatstranger.
That day he went away extremelygrateful, went to his job
interview, hopefully got his joband started on a new life path,
and yet the woman behind thecounter was just extremely
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negative about the same saidsubject.
But then, secondly, it's thatwhole law of universal karma
that you did something good andsomething good came back to you.
Yes, it was in the exact formof the $10 note, but so many
times, like when we do good inthe world, it reciprocates back
to us.
And how different would theworld be if we could all do that
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more.
Jacqui (23:51):
It's just the littlest of things.
It really doesn't take verymuch.
It's just the letting theperson in when you're merging
into traffic.
I actually now, when I turn upto the world, I play.
I play with the world andliterally I bring that energy of
play and with fun and et cetera.
And another example of that isnot that long ago.
So since my son's passing andhis surname was Frost, it was
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always Frosty, my son's passingand and his surname was frost,
it was always frosty.
And what was really fun is thatI would play with the universe
and I would play I would call itnumber plate bingo so I'd sit
there and I would always see hisdate of birth numbers on the
number plates and and differentthings as I was going to work
and and different travel as wedid.
And and I decided one day Ibought this it was actually an
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oven off of Marketplace and Ithought I had to cruise up to
this little country town in thehills just outside here of
Adelaide.
I'm just like all rightuniverse as I get in the car.
This number plate thing, thisnumbers, is getting a bit easy,
you know, because it's happeningall the time.
So I'm going to put it outthere.
I want to see words, you know,because it's happening all the
time.
So I'm going to put it outthere.
I want to see, I want to seewords.
And so, I kid you not, I'mdriving, I'd driven out of my
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driveway, I'd taken the littledown the road and I was heading
down the the next road along tohead up towards the hills and
there was this U that turned togo up its driveway because we
sort of live in a country blocktype of area, and I'm going, no,
and then I'm watching this utedrive up the driveway and a
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massive took up the whole sideof this dual cab ute in bright
rainbow color.
Writing was frost, because thatwas the name of the business.
And I'm just like I am killingmyself, laughing, and I'm going
yeah, okay, friends, okay,friends, universe, you win, you
absolutely win.
You know, I put the challengeout there and literally within
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three minutes, here was thismassive side of this entire car
with his last name on it, andI'm just like, well, that's kind
of fun, isn't it?
And then I thought, oh well,this is just entertaining.
So I cruise on my way up to thehills and, as you do in small
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country towns you have tosometimes drive up and down the
road a couple of times to findthe house numbers, because they
don't always have house numbers.
So I drive down to the end ofthis road to do a u-turn, to
then go back to the house wherethe oven was, and in the middle
of the road there was thiswallet and I thought, oh, that's
a bit strange.
So I pulled over.
It was just sort of outside ofa car door and I thought they
must have just dropped it whenthey got out of the car.
So I went and knocked on thedoor of the house that the car
was in front of.
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No, there was nobody there andI thought, oh well, as you could
, you know, let's just stalkthem on Facebook and send them a
message or something to letthem know that you found their
wallet.
So I opened up the wallet and Itook out the license so that I
could get the person's name and,I kid you not, his date of
birth was the same as my son's.
(26:41):
And I'm going come on, you guyslike, how much more can you
possibly put out there to say weare here to support you, we are
going to play with you, we aregoing to, when you let yourself
connect to all of the energy ofall of the things, the way that
the world turns up for you toplay with is just amazing, and
(27:04):
for me, again, it justreinforced when we allow
ourselves just to be open, whenwe get out of our own way of
going.
Oh no, this isn't a thing orI'm going to be judged if I
believe that you can put stuffout to the world or whatever it
looks like.
When we let go of all of thosesocial constructs, it is amazing
the stuff that we actuallybring into our worlds On so many
(27:28):
levels.
It's just so much fun.
Trudie Marie (27:30):
Such another beautiful story and I really
like what you say about playingthe game of life.
For so many of us, we gothrough life like it's a chore I
don't even know how to put itinto words, but it's.
Everything is hard and yet ifwe actually look at, we are here
to play and play the game oflife.
I mean, the game of life isactually a board game.
(27:52):
But if we play our real liveslike we play that board game and
have fun with it and show upand take risks and go beyond
fear, like you just described,it can be totally magical and we
can have much more enjoyment,much more fun and actually just
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really live life instead of justsurviving it.
Jacqui (28:16):
Absolutely, and you know , again, for me it was very much
around as soon as I'd open thedoor, if you like, going, I'm
going to say, back into theenergy worlds, because I truly
then believe.
Once I'd open that door, it wasjust like oh OK, so I've done
this before.
This is my memories, this is mylearnings.
I've come into this lifetime tobe able to have these
(28:37):
experiences because this isstuff that I didn't know or
learn before.
So then I started exploring alldifferent things around, what
this looks like, because Ithought there has to be more.
So I played in all thedifferent modalities it's the
Reiki, it's the shamanism, andplaying with crystals and
working with all differentthings and I thought there has
to be more that sits behind this.
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Science was always a fun thingfor me.
Learning was always very fun.
It still is.
So I came across on YouTube oneday this fabulous lady called Dr
Sue Mortar, and Dr Sue Mortarhas written a book.
It's called the Energy Coats,and I came across her on YouTube
and she comes.
It was a TED talk and she comesout on stage with all of this
(29:19):
amazing energy and the veryfirst thing that she'd said to
me is who's ready to have somefun.
Who's ready to play?
And I'm just like, oh, you'remy person.
Then she was talking all thingsbioenergetics and all of the
science that sat behind theenergy within the body and the
frequencies within the body, etc.
And that, for me, just openedup a complete other new world.
(29:40):
Because I'm just like, oh, hangon a sec, it's the science that
sits behind this that I'mreally going to get excited
about.
And when I say that, clearlythe universe has already shown
me so many different ways toplay with it anyway, but when I
could then connect that intowhere the scientists I'm going
to say no offence, but they kindof catch up eventually is that
(30:01):
there's actually energeticthings that are happening in our
bodies every single time andwhen we keep ourselves at what's
described as a higher frequencyand that comes with fun and joy
and laughter, all of thosethings that make us feel good.
And if we always come back tothe feeling because you know,
the brain is only half of 1% ofall of the cells in our body, so
(30:25):
I don't know why we spend somuch time focusing on there.
But when we allow ourselves tofeel and to focus on the things
that feel good and go and do thethings that make us feel good,
the energy and the way that thecells in our body and how well
all of the cells in our bodyactually work for us.
It's so amazing and that's whatallows us to go with flow and
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ease and the little things thatturn up for us.
Like my friends often say, say,why do you always get the best
car parks?
Oh well, you know, when you'rekind of vibing at high levels
and you're playing with all yourfriends, it's also more your
health and what sits behind andinside your body is literally
based on how you're choosing toturn ups every single day,
(31:09):
because our body is meant to beat ease and at flow and so
literally ease.
When our body is not at ease,it's dis-ease.
And then we get the Englishlanguage and you join those two
things together and then we'vegot disease, so literally that
that lack of flow in our body,where the energy is not going
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because we're tucking thingsaway and we're hiding them and
you know we're trying not to gothere because our mind's trying
to keep us safe that's also whatis creating this lack of flow
inside the body.
So all of these differentlessons and learnings and
exploration of what else is outthere and coming across the
works of people like Dr SueMorton and people like that
(31:55):
whether it's Joe Dispenza orwhoever best you know fits and
vibes for you, whatever you feelconnected to when you allow
yourself to go there.
What I've discovered is that,through all of the lessons and
all of the learnings that happenfor me, it's now provided me
with a basis to now connect tomy own personal energy, but also
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to support the energy and theconnection of other people,
because had I not have beenthrough those experiences, I
wouldn't be able to have theconversations with others that I
have now to support them intheir shifting and their
changing and realigning ofenergy as well.
Trudie Marie (32:32):
I love what you just said there and I think
what's there for me is that somepeople will go listening to
this, will actually go.
Oh, but that's toxic positivityand it's like no, it's not
about staying in this happy,happy, joy, joy space 100% of
the time.
Nobody can do that.
It's about feeling all theemotions, being able to go to
(32:55):
those places of sadness or angeror whatever it is, but then not
stay there, actually realizethat.
No, this is a bad place to beor a negative place to be, a low
vibration to be in.
It's about coming back andbringing it back, like you said,
with that ease and flow.
I often refer to life as aroller coaster.
(33:15):
It has the highs and it has thelows and then it has the
balance in between.
And so many people just play inthe high and the low and they
never come back to the balancein between.
And the ease and flow isactually like you look at the
heartbeat.
The heartbeat is that peak andtrough and balance line in
between and you never want aflat line because that's life
(33:38):
over.
You need to have those high andlow balances to actually allow
life to go and I think people sooften think that it needs to be
.
Oh, my life is over and it'sreally, really bad.
Or, you know, my life is goodand it's like always up here,
but like no, that's not life.
It's like always up here, butlike no, that's not life.
It's not the roller coaster,it's not the heartbeat, it is
this ease and flow ride.
Jacqui (34:00):
And it's really funny when you mentioned that I was
listening to another programwith another different
scientific perspective.
And again, what science has nowdiscovered is that even now,
our energy and how our bodymodulates itself is actually now
measured in waves and itliterally is that up and down
and that flow and it's more.
(34:21):
And can I just say you are so,so right when you say we still
have shit days.
Okay, I'm not sitting heregoing, oh la, you know, here's
my world and all the things, butwhat I do do is I sit there and
go, oh, okay, so why has thishappened for me?
And it's always for me, what isin here for me, and I look at
everything as an opportunity.
(34:42):
So it doesn't mean that youdon't have the shit days and you
don't have the you know, timeswhen you just want to go and
hibernate and stick your headunder the blankie and go back to
bed for the day.
But the time that you choosebecause it is a choice the time
that you choose to spend in thatspace entirely then dictates
(35:02):
how it is that you're going tofeel in those waves for the next
hour, 10 minutes, two days,whatever that looks like for you
, it's actually a choice.
And when I say that it can bechallenging to get out of those
really stuck low vibrationallevels, when you've gone down
there and the idea of evenhearing somebody like me talking
(35:26):
about turning up for the worldand having fun, you just want to
jump through the screen andslap them stupid.
You know you're not going tohave that level of connection.
But if you can also hear themessage that there are
opportunities for you to usewhat has happened in your world
as something of an advantage, ofsomething as growth, as
(35:51):
something as an opportunity foryou to now turn up to the world
in a different way, and and Ithink it was as soon as I
learned that we have a choice,that was probably the biggest
aha moment that I've ever had inmy world was the ability to
know that we can choose, andevery single day I just made the
choice to be able to go okay,world, I'm putting it out there
(36:13):
and what else is going to come.
But I'm also going to choose totry and find the light in each
circumstance that comes for meand to try and find what those
lessons are as they turn up andand see how I can better use
them to grow in a way that I'venever done before and you're so
right, it is a choice in how welive our lives.
Trudie Marie (36:33):
I think so often we get stuck that we think that
there is an alternative.
Like that somebody's going tocome along and flick a switch
and we're going to have thiscompletely different life.
No, life is as it's occurringfor us right now, and what you
said about whether we, how wechoose to play in that space is
(36:55):
that, yeah, we can stay stuckand we can keep going woe is me
and play the victim and be inthis negative vibration, or,
yeah, we can sit back, reflect,go okay, what is the lesson here
, or what am I supposed to takefrom this experience, and how
can I then use that to better mylife or move forward or take
(37:16):
another action, step or sharewith somebody else?
Like, there are so many thingsthat we can take from an
experience that it doesn't haveto define who we are moving
forward, and I think you are aprime example of that, in the
sense that you lost a brotheryoung, so you dealt with loss at
a very young age.
You then went on to become ateen mum, which in itself is a
(37:39):
whole judgment box that manypeople will have, and then
you've moved through that, onlyto then lose your son and have
to restart again Like one.
At the beginning, like I,became a parent so young, but
now I'm actually losing him soyoung.
What is the lessons inside ofthat that I'm taking with me
forward?
And I think that's just abeautiful culmination of
(38:01):
everything you've spoken abouttoday.
Jacqui (38:04):
Again, I'm just forever grateful for the opportunities
that I've had.
You know, and look, you know,probably if you could tick all
the boxes, I had somebody thattried to take advantage of me at
a very young age and try to dothings that to a young person
that you should never do to ayoung person, and I've
experienced that of being in aviolent relationship and what
(38:25):
that looks like, and and I'vehad all of my insides playing in
a way that no females insideshould ever do, and you know all
of the labels that get attachedto all of those things and
every single time something elsehas turned up for me.
I've been able to use it.
You know I've now worked with alot of programs helping young
(38:46):
parents and parents going backinto the workforce, create
opportunities for them.
I've been able to identify,when I'm working with people,
what it's like when you holdthese elements of dis-ease
inside your body and what it isthat you can do to shift.
That I can relate to when I docareers advice for people.
Well, I didn't finish highschool, but I still went to
(39:07):
university, because there'sactually lots of different ways
that you can bridge the gapbetween one and two.
It doesn't always have to beget the best score that you can
in year 12 and all the pressurethat, for whatever reason,
people put behind all of thatstuff.
Fyi, nobody, since I've workedin HR and recruitment, nobody's
ever asked what was your ATARscore or your WASC score or
(39:28):
whatever it looks like in yourpart of the world.
Nobody's ever asked that whenyou go for a job interview, just
so you know.
There's so many learnings thathave actually come that I would
not have been able to then sharewith other people to let them
go.
Well, actually, we can moveforward from this if it hadn't
have happened for me.
So again, where I see it, assome people say, this happened
(39:52):
to me and I'm going to hold thisfor forever.
I've chosen and it's been aninformed choice.
I've chosen to go down the pathof how amazing that I have had
all of these learning moments inthis lifetime that I can now
use to support other people inseeing that there's another way
to play with the world andthere's another way to play with
(40:15):
life, that there's another wayto play with the world and
there's another way to play withlife and you actually can truly
decide once you found thatguidance and support in whatever
way comes forward.
For you, and perhaps even justthis conversation, was that
support that you needed to go.
Well, hang on a sec, geez.
Yeah, okay, I've had thingshappen.
But what if I do change theword two to four?
What if I do now choose to seewhat else I can take from this
(40:38):
and who I'm now going to supportand to share?
And share my $10 worth ofpetrol at a service station one
day?
Who else am I going to be ableto turn up for?
And that, for me, is what I'malways going to be grateful for,
because everything that I'vehad happen for me in my world to
this point and I'm sure there'sstill a lot more to come has
(40:58):
given me the opportunity to nowturn up for others, and I am
forever grateful in how that'sbeen able to come forward.
Trudie Marie (41:06):
I love that and I love that inside of you, doing
all the work that you've had todo and going forward and
supporting others, is that thatallowed our connection to happen
.
So I'm extremely grateful thatyou went through all of that to
be able to connect with me aswell and, in looking at that,
it's like it's why I do thepodcast.
(41:26):
It's why I love storytellingand sharing what people have to
say and giving people a voice ina safe space, because quite
often we feel like we are alonein doing what we do.
And it's those people and Icall them everyday warriors
because I feel like we are allfighting something in this world
(41:47):
.
It doesn't matter how big, howsmall, how grand, whatever the
case may be.
We all have obstacles,adversities that we have to
overcome in some way, and it's achoice as to how far, how we
overcome them and how far we gobeyond that adversity and then
how we get to create and playwith life moving on from that.
(42:09):
So I would love to thank you somuch for being here today and
sharing your story and being apart of the podcast, because
this is what it's all about.
Jacqui (42:20):
No, and I really appreciate having this forum
just to you know, share withsome different people that every
day is a choice, and we canchoose to turn up going this
happened to us or we can chooseto turn up to say this has
happened for us, because theenergy behind just shifting
those two simple words reallydoes change how it is that you
(42:41):
feel inside and therefore, howit is that you're going to step
forward into that next day.
And every day is a new start,every minute is a new start, and
to be present and and to justallow yourself to feel what you
feel, to process what it isthat's been for you before, and
to be ready for what's new,because every opportunity is
(43:02):
something new for us.
So, thank you very much forproviding this space for myself
and for other people.
And, yes, it has been so muchfun us getting to know each
other and I know that we'regoing to have so much fun moving
forward.
Trudie Marie (43:15):
A hundred percent, totally agree, and I always
love to finish the podcast byasking what are you most
grateful for today?
Jacqui (43:23):
Oh, I'm most grateful for having met you, trutz, and
for having these conversationsand being.
I think my absolutegratefulness comes from every
learning opportunity that I'vehad, everything that has
happened in my world so far,because it just allows me to
support other people movingforward thank you for tuning in
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Welcome to another episode ofthe Everyday Warriors podcast,
and today my guest is fromAdelaide and we met in an online
space and have since becomeamazing friends and mentors.
(03:45):
And I have so much time forthis lady, so I'd like to
welcome Jackie.
Jacqui (03:50):
Thank you so much for having me.
Trudie Marie (03:53):
You're welcome and I know and I've learned so much
about you in our friendshipover the last few months, and
what I want to start with isthat you said that you had an
aha moment about 30 to 35 yearsago.
So take us back then.
Jacqui (04:10):
Yeah, it was one of those.
You know, you have so manythings happen to you when, when
you're younger and and you know,probably, if I did the math, it
could have even been a bitlonger than that, but it's it's
a good place to start.
But essentially I was visitinga girlfriend and and we were
really close friends, likereally close friends, and I went
and visited her and I got intomy car after we I'd probably
(04:34):
been there for a couple of hourshaving coffees and chats and
things as you do, and I got backinto my car and I sat in the
car and I'm just like, oh, Iactually don't feel very good,
and I don't mean in the physicalform, I just didn't feel great
about myself.
And then I paused for a momentand realised actually, each time
that I come and spend time withthis particular person and she
(04:57):
was a lovely person I actuallyjust didn't feel very good about
myself when I left and for meit was this bit of a, it was
like an aha moment to go oh,hang on a sec.
People that you spend time with,environments that you spend
time with, actually have areally big dictator on how you
feel about yourself, and I thinkit was more around.
(05:21):
It was about the feeling and itwas about recognise that
feeling that you're actuallyhaving inside your body and, oh,
should I actually be spendingtime with this person?
Should I limit time that Ispend with this person?
Because if I don't feel goodwhen I go there, then why would
I be going there?
So it sort of took me down thatjourney of starting to pay a
(05:43):
lot more attention to what Ifelt and being able to start to
understand if I don't feel good,let's honour that and actually
don't put yourself into thosepositions.
So I guess I started to listento my body a lot more and listen
to those feelings rather thanjust oh, but she's my friend,
(06:03):
therefore I have to.
You know all of those socialconstructs that came around and,
growing up in the country as Idid, everything was always
around the social constructs andwhat you shall do and what you
shall not do.
And then you throw in the factthat you know I was a very young
mum.
I actually had my son justafter I turned 15.
(06:24):
And so, again, in a smallcountry town, you're essentially
put in this box.
Here's who you're going to be.
You did not finish high school.
Therefore, you had a child whenyou're really young.
Therefore, you get all of thesedifferent labels and things.
So for me to be able to justpause and stop and have that aha
moment to go, be able to justpause and stop and have that aha
(06:47):
moment to go well, hang on asec, I actually need to listen
to me and I need to honour mejust sort of started creating a
different, I guess energeticconnection to how I felt and
started to play with the world.
Trudie Marie (06:58):
It's interesting when you say that about what we
spend time doing and think thatthat's okay, but then we're left
with this feeling that actually, no, I'm not okay and you may
have had a good time, you mayhave, you know, you may really
enjoy that other person'scompany because they're nice
people, but how it leaves youfeeling is, yeah, literally like
(07:21):
depleted or energetically likea black hole, but then we
continue to put ourselves intothose situations as a whole.
I think everybody in societycould relate to that but, unlike
you, not everybody takes thetime to actually stop, listen
and adjust what we do from there, yeah, and I think that that
(07:44):
was sort of one of the keypoints for me.
Jacqui (07:46):
It was like, well, hang on a sec, I want to feel good.
So why am I going todeliberately, like with that
informed perspective, put myselfinto a circumstance where I
don't feel good?
You know, and it was more therewas never anything deliberate or
any type of malice around herlooking to make me feel bad.
It was more just where ourconversations went and there was
(08:07):
always lots of reminders aboutall of the dumb stuff that
perhaps I'd done when I wasyounger, because we'd known
ourselves for years and therewas a bit of a list of things
that I may have challenged theworld with.
But, yeah, it was reallyimportant for me to sort of go
no, hang on a sec, I'm stillgoing to spend time with this
person, but I'm going to limitit and I'm going to do it sort
of more on my terms and I'mgoing to actually decide what
(08:30):
the topics of conversations aregoing to be, because I actually
don't need to be reminded aboutall of the dumb stuff I've ever
done because I lived it.
So if I'm going to remindmyself, I'll do that, but I
didn't need anybody else to bedoing it for me, so yeah, I
totally get it.
Trudie Marie (08:46):
And just taking you back to, you said that you
were a young mum, that youbecame a mum when you were 16.
Did this aha moment also thenaffect how you parented and like
what it was like to be a parentafter that?
Jacqui (09:00):
Yeah, Well, it's interesting that you even use
the word parent.
I mean, I was actually 15 whenI had my son and I think it
wasn't about parenting, it wasabout survival.
And you know, I was very, verylucky.
My family were extremelysupportive, so I don't know what
I would have done without them.
(09:21):
They were absolutely fabulous.
But it really was a case of Idon't know how to parent.
And for me, even when peopleused to bring their children to
our house, I would actually goand walk the dog.
You know, I was never the babyperson.
I was never the you'd hang outwith the little people person.
So for me it was also like thishang on a second.
(09:43):
Now I'm supposed to be agrown-up and now I'm responsible
for another small human and andwhat does this actually look
like?
So I don't know that I was everparenting.
I think that together we weremore in the survival and we
pretty much grew up together, ifthat makes sense.
So, yeah, it was never a caseof I'm a parent what does a
(10:05):
parent do?
That thought never crossed mymind.
It was more of I'm responsiblefor somebody.
Okay, if they're fed andclothed, we're in a good role.
You know, that was a greatplace to start.
That was probably more how Iseen it was not so much about
being a parent, but just how tosurvive in these circumstances.
And when I say survive, itdidn't mean it was negative, it
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was just more.
The word parent didn't evenreally come into my mind either.
Trudie Marie (10:32):
And I suppose it's such a difficult thing for many
people to grasp.
I know I didn't become a parentuntil my mid-20s and I was very
, very maternal growing up.
I always babysat my sisters andmy cousins and other people's
kids, and that was very much me.
So I feel like I fell naturallyinto becoming a mother.
But I just look at it and go at15, you're still discovering
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who you are in the world and Iknow that you had some other
traumas associated prior to thatthat you're now having to deal
with not only that and your lifeand being a 15 year old.
But now you've got somebodyelse and I love how you said you
grew up together becauseliterally you were learning
along the way and your son waslearning along the way as well.
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So it was almost like this yousaid survive together.
But it was almost this dualhand in hand let's discover the
world together yeah, that's,that's exactly what it was.
Jacqui (11:29):
And so my Steve's, my son's name was Steve and I say
was because he has actuallypassed.
Um, he passed about six yearsago now.
Um, no, five, five and a half.
You know time flies and I amjust forever grateful.
Was that a situation that Ithought, oh, let's go out and
become a mum?
Well, no, that was never on mylist of things to do.
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I think you go looking forconnection in many different
places.
My younger brother had actuallypassed only a month and a half
from the time that I gotpregnant.
So, know, there was certainlythat searching for connection in
all the different ways, becausemy family, certainly it was
challenged.
He was only 11 when my brotherpassed.
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There was lots of challengesgoing through a family, as you
would appreciate, at thatparticular time, with the loss
of a child, and especially formy father, with the loss of a
son, like his only son.
So, through that it really wasSteve and I, we, we did, we grew
up together and the lessonsthat I have taken so far through
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this lifetime because of himcoming into my world, oh, my
goodness, like I could probablywrite 10 books, you know it's.
You can't even start to toconsider what it's, you know,
you can't even start to considerwhat it's like to appreciate
and I do every day.
I appreciate the fact that hecame into my world because I
don't know that I would havebecome a mum had it not have
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been in that circumstance.
I wouldn't have had all ofthose experiences, I wouldn't
have had all of thoseinteresting moments as we do
when you have the child and theparent both growing up together,
as we do when you have thechild and the parent both
growing up together.
But even in his passing, thelessons that I have been able to
take in this lifetime becauseof Steve being a part of it, I
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will be forever grateful,because I don't think I would
have done half of the thingsthat I've now done had it not
have been for him being in myworld.
So, yeah, it's funny whenpeople come and go in all of the
different forms in my world.
So, yeah, it's funny whenpeople come and go in all of the
different forms in our lifetime, and sometimes they're
physically related and sometimesthey're friends in passing or
whatever that looks like.
But, yes, forever grateful forhim being part of my world.
Trudie Marie (13:39):
I love that and it takes me back to a saying of
yeah, people will be in yourlife for a reason, a season or a
lifetime, and often you don'tknow until they're gone, in
whatever form.
That is that you come tounderstand or realize why they
were actually there and whattheir purpose was.
In your life, lessons and whatyou experience, but talking
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about like obviously aha momentand and dealing with your
feelings and putting yourselfinto situations how did that
then change for you?
Obviously you lost your brotherquite young, and then losing
Steve I'm going to guess stillreasonably young, uh is how did
then you relate his passing intodealing with yourself and your
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body and your feelings?
Jacqui (14:28):
Yeah, so when Steve passed he was actually 34.
So you know he was an adult andhas a child of his own and
things as well.
But for me, it really sent medown a path of there has to be
more, sent me down a path ofthere has to be more each time
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we had those connections.
So the passing of my youngerbrother and having those
experiences because I was 14 atthe time when he passed, and
it's sort of like what else isgoing on here there was always
this element of there's a reasonfor everything.
I guess I've always had that aspart of my world.
But looking at it and sort ofgoing, okay, so there's a
passing here, but now we havesomebody new coming in.
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So Steve coming in, and thenthere's all of the learnings
that you have and all parents.
I don't think it matters whatage you become a parent.
Everybody can relate to thefact that.
Okay, they don't come as littlepeople do not come with
instruction manuals no, theydon't all of the books under the
sun, but they certainly don'tcome with instruction manuals.
You're sort of just feeling andlearning and experiencing.
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But in reflection on thepassing of steve, it was almost
like a completely new door openfor me and it was very much.
I'm forever grateful that mysister suggested that I go and
do a Reiki course Now, nevereven had Reiki, didn't even know
what Reiki was, but completelytrusted that this was an
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experience that my sister hadbeen having and so booked into
this Reiki course, which turnedout to be about three or four
weeks after the passing of myson that I'm now sitting in this
room with a group of strangersand we're going to sit on a mat
and we're going to do somethingcalled meditation Well, I've
never done that either and we'regoing to talk all things around
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whatever Reiki is.
And that was probably thebiggest awakening that I have
ever had, outside of all of theother elements of learning.
This was like my wake up moment.
It was almost like I went tothis complete period of
remembering that this is who Itruly am.
This is what I came here for.
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This is why I had all of theexperiences of people not
treating you nicely as a childand they came in all different
forms, but the growth that youhave of being a parent at a
young age and it just sort oflike everything then made sense
because all of a sudden therewas this awakening through
sitting in this little roomdoing reiki, meditation, all of
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the, the elements that come withthat.
It was just like, oh, holy crap, this, this is.
There's a reason for all ofthis and it has taken my world
over the last five and a halfyou know, six years down a
completely different pathway,which I've actually found is
easy and it flows, because everyelement of the being stuck in a
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box, of being judged by others,it was like all of a sudden
there was a reason for it and ithas just completely transformed
the way that I turn up for theworld, I play with the world, I
connect with the world and beingopen to doing different things
that we do because you're goingto gain something from it that
the knowledge that you gain isjust going to be incredible.
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So it's funny how the differentpaths and the different
opportunities that turn up and Ialways say for us, it's not to
us, because when we can sit backand appreciate and see things
from the light of knowledge andgrowth that they've provided us.
You have to see that withappreciation, you have to see
that with gratitude andtherefore it's for us, because
the knowledge that you have tosee that with appreciation, you
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have to see that with gratitudeand therefore it's for us,
because the knowledge that youhave and how you can then
support others and and you knowturn up just every single day.
You see it from a differentperspective and it's very, very
fun when you let it.
Trudie Marie (18:20):
I love that and I totally agree that it's changing
that perspective of things thathappen to us and they actually
happen for us and I know thatfor myself with everything that
I went through with WA Policethat at the time I was very much
in the space of this happenedto me, and it wasn't until I
hiked the bib that I actuallywas like no, this happened for
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me.
There's a reason for all ofthis that life culminates in
weird and mysterious ways.
That leads us to where we needto go, and what was there for me
inside of that was when you goback to looking and you talked
about the judgments and theroles of you're a teen mom and
you didn't finish high schooland there was all this negative
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connotation around that, but youkind of used it to your
advantage even back then thatyou said that you grew together
and that you lived together andthen miraculously, for whatever
reason whether Steve had part ofthat you were led to this new
path of actually going down anddoing something that you never
thought possible.
But I feel like, even thoughyou probably consciously didn't
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know, like you said, you'venever done meditation and you've
never heard of Reiki but you'dalready had that aha moment of
hold on a second.
I need to listen to my body, soit's almost like that little
aha moment almost led you to sayyes to the Reiki in the first
place.
Jacqui (19:42):
Absolutely.
And I think those little ahamoments turn up on a regular
basis and they're always there.
It's just whether we letourselves hear them or let
ourselves see them.
And I'll take you to anotherlittle story which I've shared
with a few people but not thatmany people over the years that
I was in.
I was actually in WA, funnilyenough, and I was doing some
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work.
I used to do lots of fly aroundthe the countryside for one of
my jobs and I was standing inline just to get a bottle of
drink at a local service stationdown in Bunbury and there was a
, a younger guy in front of meand, and the poor thing, his
bank card had broken.
So he was trying to like swipeas you used to have to with the
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you know bank cards back then.
He was trying to swipeliterally like the little strip
to pay for his $10 worth ofpetrol, and this not so pleasant
lady who was serving him wasgiving him a bit of a hard time
because it was starting to be abit of a line up and a few
people waiting etc.
And in the end I just sort ofchipped in and said that's right
, mate.
I said I'll get your fuel foryou.
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And he just looked at me andthe look of gratitude on his
face because he kept saying tothis lady look, I'll just go
down to the bank you know, I'mjust on my way to a job
interview and I've just got tojust said no, no, it's all good,
mate, I'll get it.
And so he very, you know,gratefully, went off and got in
his car and I'm paying for mybottle of soft drink and and his
ten dollars worth of petrol.
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And the lady behind the counter, she looks at me, she goes well
, that's an expensive bottle ofdrink, isn't it?
And I said no, actually it'snot, and that's entirely my
choice.
And I went happily on my wayand that was fine.
And a few weeks later I went upto our local supermarket and it
was a relatively quietsupermarket, especially sort of
into the to the later evening,and I went in and I grabbed my
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few groceries and I came backout and there was probably only
half a dozen cars in the carpark.
You know it was a smaller spaceand I kid you not.
I get to the door of my car andI look down and there is a ten
dollar note sitting on theground at my car door and I'm
looking around, there isliterally not another soul in
the entire place that they couldhave, you know, dropped it or
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whatever it looked like, but itwas literally right at my feet,
at my car door, and so I pickedup that ten dollar note.
I thanked the universe verymuch because I figured that they
were just returning the tendollars that I'd lent this young
guy, and so I popped it into mypurse and then off.
I went home and again, it wasjust another point of reflection
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and this was way before I didthe, you know, the Reiki's or
any of the things, and becauseI've done so many different
modalities, now, as soon as thatdoor was opened in Reiki time,
it was just like, oh my goodness, there's so much else to play
with, but just that little $10note coming back and just sort
of going all right again,there's some more in this.
What else is going on universe,what else is going on in our
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world?
So, yeah, it's the littlethings that turn up for us,
which I think is really fun forus to learn how to play with.
Trudie Marie (22:41):
Yeah, and that's.
It's such a beautiful story ontwo levels, the first being that
people underestimate what it'slike to have a random act of
kindness bestowed upon them, andI've done it myself in the past
.
I mean, you used to be able togive away your parking tickets.
Now they seem to do yourparking tickets by your
registration plate, which annoysme because it's like I used to
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give my time to somebody else.
But it's those little thingsthat you just don't understand,
or you can't even comprehendwhat that ripple effect is going
to be.
You doing that for thatstranger.
That day he went away extremelygrateful, went to his job
interview, hopefully got his joband started on a new life path,
and yet the woman behind thecounter was just extremely
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negative about the same saidsubject.
But then, secondly, it's thatwhole law of universal karma
that you did something good andsomething good came back to you.
Yes, it was in the exact formof the $10 note, but so many
times, like when we do good inthe world, it reciprocates back
to us.
And how different would theworld be if we could all do that
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more.
Jacqui (23:51):
It's just the littlest of things.
It really doesn't take verymuch.
It's just the letting theperson in when you're merging
into traffic.
I actually now, when I turn upto the world, I play.
I play with the world andliterally I bring that energy of
play and with fun and et cetera.
And another example of that isnot that long ago.
So since my son's passing andhis surname was Frost, it was
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always Frosty, my son's passingand and his surname was frost,
it was always frosty.
And what was really fun is thatI would play with the universe
and I would play I would call itnumber plate bingo so I'd sit
there and I would always see hisdate of birth numbers on the
number plates and and differentthings as I was going to work
and and different travel as wedid.
And and I decided one day Ibought this it was actually an
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oven off of Marketplace and Ithought I had to cruise up to
this little country town in thehills just outside here of
Adelaide.
I'm just like all rightuniverse as I get in the car.
This number plate thing, thisnumbers, is getting a bit easy,
you know, because it's happeningall the time.
So I'm going to put it outthere.
I want to see words, you know,because it's happening all the
time.
So I'm going to put it outthere.
I want to see, I want to seewords.
And so, I kid you not, I'mdriving, I'd driven out of my
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driveway, I'd taken the littledown the road and I was heading
down the the next road along tohead up towards the hills and
there was this U that turned togo up its driveway because we
sort of live in a country blocktype of area, and I'm going, no,
and then I'm watching this utedrive up the driveway and a
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massive took up the whole sideof this dual cab ute in bright
rainbow color.
Writing was frost, because thatwas the name of the business.
And I'm just like I am killingmyself, laughing, and I'm going
yeah, okay, friends, okay,friends, universe, you win, you
absolutely win.
You know, I put the challengeout there and literally within
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three minutes, here was thismassive side of this entire car
with his last name on it, andI'm just like, well, that's kind
of fun, isn't it?
And then I thought, oh well,this is just entertaining.
So I cruise on my way up to thehills and, as you do in small
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country towns you have tosometimes drive up and down the
road a couple of times to findthe house numbers, because they
don't always have house numbers.
So I drive down to the end ofthis road to do a u-turn, to
then go back to the house wherethe oven was, and in the middle
of the road there was thiswallet and I thought, oh, that's
a bit strange.
So I pulled over.
It was just sort of outside ofa car door and I thought they
must have just dropped it whenthey got out of the car.
So I went and knocked on thedoor of the house that the car
was in front of.
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No, there was nobody there andI thought, oh well, as you could
, you know, let's just stalkthem on Facebook and send them a
message or something to letthem know that you found their
wallet.
So I opened up the wallet and Itook out the license so that I
could get the person's name and,I kid you not, his date of
birth was the same as my son's.
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And I'm going come on, you guyslike, how much more can you
possibly put out there to say weare here to support you, we are
going to play with you, we aregoing to, when you let yourself
connect to all of the energy ofall of the things, the way that
the world turns up for you toplay with is just amazing, and
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for me, again, it justreinforced when we allow
ourselves just to be open, whenwe get out of our own way of
going.
Oh no, this isn't a thing orI'm going to be judged if I
believe that you can put stuffout to the world or whatever it
looks like.
When we let go of all of thosesocial constructs, it is amazing
the stuff that we actuallybring into our worlds On so many
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levels.
It's just so much fun.
Trudie Marie (27:30):
Such another beautiful story and I really
like what you say about playingthe game of life.
For so many of us, we gothrough life like it's a chore I
don't even know how to put itinto words, but it's.
Everything is hard and yet ifwe actually look at, we are here
to play and play the game oflife.
I mean, the game of life isactually a board game.
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But if we play our real liveslike we play that board game and
have fun with it and show upand take risks and go beyond
fear, like you just described,it can be totally magical and we
can have much more enjoyment,much more fun and actually just
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really live life instead of justsurviving it.
Jacqui (28:16):
Absolutely, and you know , again, for me it was very much
around as soon as I'd open thedoor, if you like, going, I'm
going to say, back into theenergy worlds, because I truly
then believe.
Once I'd open that door, it wasjust like oh OK, so I've done
this before.
This is my memories, this is mylearnings.
I've come into this lifetime tobe able to have these
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experiences because this isstuff that I didn't know or
learn before.
So then I started exploring alldifferent things around, what
this looks like, because Ithought there has to be more.
So I played in all thedifferent modalities it's the
Reiki, it's the shamanism, andplaying with crystals and
working with all differentthings and I thought there has
to be more that sits behind this.
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Science was always a fun thingfor me.
Learning was always very fun.
It still is.
So I came across on YouTube oneday this fabulous lady called Dr
Sue Mortar, and Dr Sue Mortarhas written a book.
It's called the Energy Coats,and I came across her on YouTube
and she comes.
It was a TED talk and she comesout on stage with all of this
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amazing energy and the veryfirst thing that she'd said to
me is who's ready to have somefun.
Who's ready to play?
And I'm just like, oh, you'remy person.
Then she was talking all thingsbioenergetics and all of the
science that sat behind theenergy within the body and the
frequencies within the body, etc.
And that, for me, just openedup a complete other new world.
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Because I'm just like, oh, hangon a sec, it's the science that
sits behind this that I'mreally going to get excited
about.
And when I say that, clearlythe universe has already shown
me so many different ways toplay with it anyway, but when I
could then connect that intowhere the scientists I'm going
to say no offence, but they kindof catch up eventually is that
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there's actually energeticthings that are happening in our
bodies every single time andwhen we keep ourselves at what's
described as a higher frequencyand that comes with fun and joy
and laughter, all of thosethings that make us feel good.
And if we always come back tothe feeling because you know,
the brain is only half of 1% ofall of the cells in our body, so
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I don't know why we spend somuch time focusing on there.
But when we allow ourselves tofeel and to focus on the things
that feel good and go and do thethings that make us feel good,
the energy and the way that thecells in our body and how well
all of the cells in our bodyactually work for us.
It's so amazing and that's whatallows us to go with flow and
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ease and the little things thatturn up for us.
Like my friends often say, say,why do you always get the best
car parks?
Oh well, you know, when you'rekind of vibing at high levels
and you're playing with all yourfriends, it's also more your
health and what sits behind andinside your body is literally
based on how you're choosing toturn ups every single day,
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because our body is meant to beat ease and at flow and so
literally ease.
When our body is not at ease,it's dis-ease.
And then we get the Englishlanguage and you join those two
things together and then we'vegot disease, so literally that
that lack of flow in our body,where the energy is not going
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because we're tucking thingsaway and we're hiding them and
you know we're trying not to gothere because our mind's trying
to keep us safe that's also whatis creating this lack of flow
inside the body.
So all of these differentlessons and learnings and
exploration of what else is outthere and coming across the
works of people like Dr SueMorton and people like that
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whether it's Joe Dispenza orwhoever best you know fits and
vibes for you, whatever you feelconnected to when you allow
yourself to go there.
What I've discovered is that,through all of the lessons and
all of the learnings that happenfor me, it's now provided me
with a basis to now connect tomy own personal energy, but also
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to support the energy and theconnection of other people,
because had I not have beenthrough those experiences, I
wouldn't be able to have theconversations with others that I
have now to support them intheir shifting and their
changing and realigning ofenergy as well.
Trudie Marie (32:32):
I love what you just said there and I think
what's there for me is that somepeople will go listening to
this, will actually go.
Oh, but that's toxic positivityand it's like no, it's not
about staying in this happy,happy, joy, joy space 100% of
the time.
Nobody can do that.
It's about feeling all theemotions, being able to go to
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those places of sadness or angeror whatever it is, but then not
stay there, actually realizethat.
No, this is a bad place to beor a negative place to be, a low
vibration to be in.
It's about coming back andbringing it back, like you said,
with that ease and flow.
I often refer to life as aroller coaster.
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It has the highs and it has thelows and then it has the
balance in between.
And so many people just play inthe high and the low and they
never come back to the balancein between.
And the ease and flow isactually like you look at the
heartbeat.
The heartbeat is that peak andtrough and balance line in
between and you never want aflat line because that's life
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over.
You need to have those high andlow balances to actually allow
life to go and I think people sooften think that it needs to be
.
Oh, my life is over and it'sreally, really bad.
Or, you know, my life is goodand it's like always up here,
but like no, that's not life.
It's like always up here, butlike no, that's not life.
It's not the roller coaster,it's not the heartbeat, it is
this ease and flow ride.
Jacqui (34:00):
And it's really funny when you mentioned that I was
listening to another programwith another different
scientific perspective.
And again, what science has nowdiscovered is that even now,
our energy and how our bodymodulates itself is actually now
measured in waves and itliterally is that up and down
and that flow and it's more.
(34:21):
And can I just say you are so,so right when you say we still
have shit days.
Okay, I'm not sitting heregoing, oh la, you know, here's
my world and all the things, butwhat I do do is I sit there and
go, oh, okay, so why has thishappened for me?
And it's always for me, what isin here for me, and I look at
everything as an opportunity.
(34:42):
So it doesn't mean that youdon't have the shit days and you
don't have the you know, timeswhen you just want to go and
hibernate and stick your headunder the blankie and go back to
bed for the day.
But the time that you choosebecause it is a choice the time
that you choose to spend in thatspace entirely then dictates
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how it is that you're going tofeel in those waves for the next
hour, 10 minutes, two days,whatever that looks like for you
, it's actually a choice.
And when I say that it can bechallenging to get out of those
really stuck low vibrationallevels, when you've gone down
there and the idea of evenhearing somebody like me talking
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about turning up for the worldand having fun, you just want to
jump through the screen andslap them stupid.
You know you're not going tohave that level of connection.
But if you can also hear themessage that there are
opportunities for you to usewhat has happened in your world
as something of an advantage, ofsomething as growth, as
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something as an opportunity foryou to now turn up to the world
in a different way, and and Ithink it was as soon as I
learned that we have a choice,that was probably the biggest
aha moment that I've ever had inmy world was the ability to
know that we can choose, andevery single day I just made the
choice to be able to go okay,world, I'm putting it out there
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and what else is going to come.
But I'm also going to choose totry and find the light in each
circumstance that comes for meand to try and find what those
lessons are as they turn up andand see how I can better use
them to grow in a way that I'venever done before and you're so
right, it is a choice in how welive our lives.
Trudie Marie (36:33):
I think so often we get stuck that we think that
there is an alternative.
Like that somebody's going tocome along and flick a switch
and we're going to have thiscompletely different life.
No, life is as it's occurringfor us right now, and what you
said about whether we, how wechoose to play in that space is
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that, yeah, we can stay stuckand we can keep going woe is me
and play the victim and be inthis negative vibration, or,
yeah, we can sit back, reflect,go okay, what is the lesson here
, or what am I supposed to takefrom this experience, and how
can I then use that to better mylife or move forward or take
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another action, step or sharewith somebody else?
Like, there are so many thingsthat we can take from an
experience that it doesn't haveto define who we are moving
forward, and I think you are aprime example of that, in the
sense that you lost a brotheryoung, so you dealt with loss at
a very young age.
You then went on to become ateen mum, which in itself is a
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whole judgment box that manypeople will have, and then
you've moved through that, onlyto then lose your son and have
to restart again Like one.
At the beginning, like I,became a parent so young, but
now I'm actually losing him soyoung.
What is the lessons inside ofthat that I'm taking with me
forward?
And I think that's just abeautiful culmination of
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everything you've spoken abouttoday.
Jacqui (38:04):
Again, I'm just forever grateful for the opportunities
that I've had.
You know, and look, you know,probably if you could tick all
the boxes, I had somebody thattried to take advantage of me at
a very young age and try to dothings that to a young person
that you should never do to ayoung person, and I've
experienced that of being in aviolent relationship and what
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that looks like, and and I'vehad all of my insides playing in
a way that no females insideshould ever do, and you know all
of the labels that get attachedto all of those things and
every single time something elsehas turned up for me.
I've been able to use it.
You know I've now worked with alot of programs helping young
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parents and parents going backinto the workforce, create
opportunities for them.
I've been able to identify,when I'm working with people,
what it's like when you holdthese elements of dis-ease
inside your body and what it isthat you can do to shift.
That I can relate to when I docareers advice for people.
Well, I didn't finish highschool, but I still went to
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university, because there'sactually lots of different ways
that you can bridge the gapbetween one and two.
It doesn't always have to beget the best score that you can
in year 12 and all the pressurethat, for whatever reason,
people put behind all of thatstuff.
Fyi, nobody, since I've workedin HR and recruitment, nobody's
ever asked what was your ATARscore or your WASC score or
(39:28):
whatever it looks like in yourpart of the world.
Nobody's ever asked that whenyou go for a job interview, just
so you know.
There's so many learnings thathave actually come that I would
not have been able to then sharewith other people to let them
go.
Well, actually, we can moveforward from this if it hadn't
have happened for me.
So again, where I see it, assome people say, this happened
(39:52):
to me and I'm going to hold thisfor forever.
I've chosen and it's been aninformed choice.
I've chosen to go down the pathof how amazing that I have had
all of these learning moments inthis lifetime that I can now
use to support other people inseeing that there's another way
to play with the world andthere's another way to play with
(40:15):
life, that there's another wayto play with the world and
there's another way to play withlife and you actually can truly
decide once you found thatguidance and support in whatever
way comes forward.
For you, and perhaps even justthis conversation, was that
support that you needed to go.
Well, hang on a sec, geez.
Yeah, okay, I've had thingshappen.
But what if I do change theword two to four?
What if I do now choose to seewhat else I can take from this
(40:38):
and who I'm now going to supportand to share?
And share my $10 worth ofpetrol at a service station one
day?
Who else am I going to be ableto turn up for?
And that, for me, is what I'malways going to be grateful for,
because everything that I'vehad happen for me in my world to
this point and I'm sure there'sstill a lot more to come has
(40:58):
given me the opportunity to nowturn up for others, and I am
forever grateful in how that'sbeen able to come forward.
Trudie Marie (41:06):
I love that and I love that inside of you, doing
all the work that you've had todo and going forward and
supporting others, is that thatallowed our connection to happen
.
So I'm extremely grateful thatyou went through all of that to
be able to connect with me aswell and, in looking at that,
it's like it's why I do thepodcast.
(41:26):
It's why I love storytellingand sharing what people have to
say and giving people a voice ina safe space, because quite
often we feel like we are alonein doing what we do.
And it's those people and Icall them everyday warriors
because I feel like we are allfighting something in this world
(41:47):
.
It doesn't matter how big, howsmall, how grand, whatever the
case may be.
We all have obstacles,adversities that we have to
overcome in some way, and it's achoice as to how far, how we
overcome them and how far we gobeyond that adversity and then
how we get to create and playwith life moving on from that.
(42:09):
So I would love to thank you somuch for being here today and
sharing your story and being apart of the podcast, because
this is what it's all about.
Jacqui (42:20):
No, and I really appreciate having this forum
just to you know, share withsome different people that every
day is a choice, and we canchoose to turn up going this
happened to us or we can chooseto turn up to say this has
happened for us, because theenergy behind just shifting
those two simple words reallydoes change how it is that you
(42:41):
feel inside and therefore, howit is that you're going to step
forward into that next day.
And every day is a new start,every minute is a new start, and
to be present and and to justallow yourself to feel what you
feel, to process what it isthat's been for you before, and
to be ready for what's new,because every opportunity is
(43:02):
something new for us.
So, thank you very much forproviding this space for myself
and for other people.
And, yes, it has been so muchfun us getting to know each
other and I know that we'regoing to have so much fun moving
forward.
Trudie Marie (43:15):
A hundred percent, totally agree, and I always
love to finish the podcast byasking what are you most
grateful for today?
Jacqui (43:23):
Oh, I'm most grateful for having met you, trutz, and
for having these conversationsand being.
I think my absolutegratefulness comes from every
learning opportunity that I'vehad, everything that has
happened in my world so far,because it just allows me to
support other people movingforward thank you for tuning in
(43:44):
to the everyday warriors podcast.
Trudie Marie (43:46):
If you have an idea for a future episode or a
story you'd like to shareyourself, then please reach out
and message me, as I am alwaysup for real, raw and authentic
conversations with othereveryday warriors.
Also, be sure to subscribe sothat you can download all the
latest episodes as they arepublished and spread the word to
(44:08):
your family and friends andcolleagues so they can listen in
too.
If you're sharing on socialmedia, please be sure to tag me
so that I can personallyacknowledge you.
I'm always open to commentabout how these episodes have
resonated with you, the listener.
And remember lead with love asyou live this one wild and
(44:30):
precious life.
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