June 13, 2023 • 28 mins
Can AI technology really revolutionize the world of wedding photography? Join us in this captivating episode as we explore the latest advancements in AI and their potential impact on capturing genuine moments during special events. Our discussion delves into the balance between maintaining a trendy aesthetic and catching raw, authentic emotions in our work.
We chat about an innovative product that tethers an iPhone to a professional camera, instantly uploading photos to a gallery and sending them to guests. We also share our thoughts on AI-driven facial recognition technology and its potential ethical implications, as well as how photographers can adapt to stay ahead of the curve. Plus, we dive into the idea of adding filters to dance floor photos and contemplate the future of AI-enhanced photography services.
As we wrap up our lively conversation, we leave you with practical advice on implementing AI technology at weddings while ensuring the comfort and satisfaction of the couple and their guests. Don't miss out on this thought-provoking discussion packed with valuable insights for both professional photographers and tech enthusiasts alike!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, you are listening to the Everything Is
BS podcast with Chris Stiles andBrooke Brady.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
In an age where social media trends trump
realism, two photographers chatabout the beautiful events they
photograph and the push tocapture real moments over the
picture perfect trendy day.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
We want to discuss how people view perfectionism
and chat about encouraging amore authentic and genuine
experience.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
So, whether you're driving, working, editing photos
or just looking for a quickescape, pull up a virtual chair
to our coffee table chat.
We'd love to have you.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
But some cool tech you have to keep up with and
change with as we continue tomove into the world of AI and
you hear over and over again anda lot of artists that listen to
this and creatives, you know,hate that word I will always say
that you should just at least,at the bare minimum, be aware
what's what's going on, so thatyou don't get caught in a world
that's so far ahead that youcan't catch up.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I just saw you post something that you used AI for
something.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I did.
It was a real good hit too.
So I'm very careful about whatI add to my wedding photography
business that is technologicallygeeky or something because it
can feel gimmicky.
Yeah, perfect.
Full circle here.
Whether Nikki, it has to makesense, has to make sense and
actually provide some form ofvalue.
A product that I went to aphotography conference earlier
(01:24):
this year, one on their exhibitfloor was shown a product and I
was like, wow, that's reallycool, like I was trying to
envision different ways youcould use that And I was like,
yeah, i could absolutely seethis being a thing, especially
with Gen Z and younger, as justthe concept of fast, fast fast.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What is it You can tell me?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, it's really cool.
So that actually that's themount for it over there, as I'm
pointing to my like shelf deskthing over there.
So what it is is it gives theability to it's really going to
be for, like the reception.
It gives the ability to tethermy iPhone to my camera.
So there's a that's what thatmount is over there, it's the
(02:05):
bracket, so I have it too.
The iPhone like hangs on theside actually, so it's, and then
it's corded to the phone.
So my camera now has a cordconnected, my professional
camera to my iPhone.
There's a special, there's acompany that's created a special
software and app That you haveto pay the license for, and what
it does is a couple things.
(02:26):
First thing it does is when Itake a photo, it moves the photo
because I'm tethered to myiPhone, to the app.
So the photo file, which youhave to have it set to a JPEG,
it's sent over to the app.
You immediately see it Onceit's in the app, it immediately
uploads to a gallery.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But in your camera it's still raw.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And my camera.
You can set a raw and a JPEGand then have it send the JPEG.
So it's still.
You can have the raw file, butfor the for the software, it
needs to be the JPEG.
So you send the JPEG over, goesto a gallery online,
immediately uploads.
Once you're there, i can justclick on the photo and I'm
hoping that someone's face isgoing to be on the photo.
(03:06):
I can click on the face that Iwant to click on And I'm going
to ask the guest to type intheir phone number or email and
they do that And two thingshappen The photo gets sent to
their phone so they have a linkto this gallery now.
But the best part about thisthis is the magic is that this
is where AI comes in for therest of the night.
Anytime I snap a photo of thatperson, it recognizes their face
(03:30):
and automatically I'm out.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
No, i cannot, I can't .
That's so creepy.
No, i would never give you myphone number.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So the the wedding show I just did was kind of a
test to see what people'sreactions were going to be.
I was in a pretty varied crowd.
I had, you know, i had frieswith their moms.
I had couples I had probably inthe age range of young, like
was like 23, 24, all the way upto a couple that was probably in
their like upper thirties.
I would say that was the rangeof couples.
(04:02):
I told Kelly like I probablyspoke with 20 to 25 different
couples.
Um, i'd say 80% of them weregenuine.
Wow, that's really coolreactions, like an out loud
saying, like if I could actuallyhave the quote, i would love
that on my dance floor.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
But are your edits on them?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Your edits are not on them.
So what I would do is there'dhave to be a special little
assumption.
It's basically the way youadvertise this.
This is a.
it's a mobile photo booth.
That's essentially what it is,so the photo isn't getting
edited either.
if it was just a photo boothcompany, so what I need but what
I need is a a second shooterwould handle this.
I would still be the primaryphotographer taking photos on
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the dance floor that would bedelivered in their final gallery
.
These would just be extra oneoffs, so they're paying for an
add on to basically have yourguests just have a fun dance
photo that they can get on theirphone.
And maybe I'm not going to havemy second shooter go boom, boom
, boom, shoot a million times.
It's going to be a learningcurve where they're going to be
very careful about their shots,like dance move someone looking
(05:08):
at the camera one click.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know what I could see that doing, though.
First of all, it's creepy shit.
I don't like it.
I don't want AI to figure outwhat my face looks like and send
me all the photos ever.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I don't want AI in my house and you got Alexa in your
house and you're fine with that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh yeah, yes, All right, yes, but.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You're safe here, Brooke.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
We got no Alexa's, we got our phones.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So we're done anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So, number one Will they like, like, do they?
are you tied to it in any way?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Like it does it say like styles on the bottom.
You can do whatever you want.
You can have a white label,your label, or you could not.
That solves that problem.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Even though it doesn't have your edits on it,
so it's not your true work,which, like to me, i don't want
to take photos of people justdancing and have like the auto
thing to me is a little scary,because what if I take a shit
photo and I'm like and it justgoes straight to their phone?
There's that.
I don't want them to receivebad photos of themselves and be
like ew what the hell you know?
(06:11):
Yep And have my watermark on it.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's well.
this is where it's there, Likeif it's an actual, like, just
terrible, you know, facesquished in, not a great photo.
the good thing is that eachguest is only getting their own
photos, so it's not like there'sa full gallery that all the
guests are seeing at once, Butyou don't get to go through and
(06:36):
go.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
OK, these are.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You can, at the end, go through and pick and choose
which ones actually getdelivered.
So, at the end.
I'm not the bride and groomernot getting them until you
submit it.
And I had, i would have accessto the whole gallery beforehand.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So it's not automatically like I'm not.
It's like snap, snap And thenit's just like boom goes right
to your phone.
It's not doing that on thedance floor, where like It can,
it can do that.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
That's kind of.
The benefit is that your guestsare getting live photos of, and
they're, generally speaking,going to be better than an
iPhone because you have a flashattached to your camera, of
course, but if it's shitty Ijust wouldn't want for like if
it's, if it's not good, then theguest will they have their own
private gallery, like it's justbecause I've only tagged them
(07:18):
and it's tied to that phonenumber email, so it's not like
another, it's not like all theguests will see that photo, just
that guess will get that photoAnd at the end, when the bride
and groom get all of the Ifthat's what you want to do, you
don't even have to do that.
You don't have to offer that.
Yeah, if you just want it to bea live guest, get their photos
And then that's it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I think I would almost prefer to like Ask people
for their phone numbers andstuff, do the, do the face thing
, and then at the end of thenight, when I'm done, i can
quickly go through and go oh,that was a mess up, that was a
mess up.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And then they just get bulk photos sent out.
You can absolutely do that too.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
OK, Number two what if there's twins?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So I didn't even think of that.
That's a good point.
Well then I would go to assumethat they understand that The
tech is maybe not there, andthen, or just tell them.
I would literally, in the dancefloor, be like wow, you're so
ignorant.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You sent me photos of my fist Yeah.
Number three.
That's a funny question, i'mjust saying No, these are the
questions we need.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, i should submit it to them right now.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What do we do if?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
there's one.
What do we do if there's twins?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Oh my god, i had another.
Really really good morning.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, you're thinking of that, Yeah, so ultimately,
it's no matter what.
In any instance, i have an openmind to at least give it a
trial run, see how the marketlikes it If it.
if it's a flop and people arelike this is a terrible photo,
what I would actually be doingis branding these photos.
That's a photography styles onthem, but I would brand it with
(08:46):
something like photographystyles And then like a special
other, like spot my photo, likethe company's called spot my
photos.
So it'd be like photographystyles and spot my photo.
So they know it's a.
This is a separate thing, yeah,so if anyone ever shared it,
that's OK.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It would be cool if you could like upload a filter
to them before they go.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'm sure that something you can do.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I just don't think you can do it now Because I was
going to say like if you couldtake like if all those photos
that you took didn't exactlyhave your editing, because
obviously you don't have thetime when you're on the dance
floor, But if it could do like ayou know a polaroid point?
Yeah, Yeah, but if it could likethrow a polaroid filter onto it
or something where it's like alittle bit more vibey, and it's
not just like natural straightfrom the camera, like that would
(09:28):
make me feel a little morebetter.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's a, i mean I'm going to go to say that it's
still in a like startup phasecompany.
So it's something they would,i'm sure, if they don't have it
already and I just missed it,but I don't, i don't think so.
Yeah, that would.
I mean it's going to berequested, i can send the
request and they could work onthat, because there's a, there's
a, a photo booth that I alsooffer.
That's just like a small it'smore economical photo booth.
(09:53):
It's basically a ring lightwith a camera in it And you can
just place it anywhere and justlet it go And it makes gifts.
That's what's fun about it.
So, like people doing like thisSo fun Yeah, it's just a cute
way of doing it, and those haveit's been interesting to look
back at like the Facebook group,for if you're part of this
company, and like from when theystarted, and like the people
bringing in requests that arepart of the group And like they
(10:15):
didn't have, they didn't use tohave filters and now they have
filters.
So like you can do like sepia,black and white, you can do like
all sorts of different things,so you can make overlays, you
can do where it says, like theperson's wedding, so forth.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
So so what?
if so?
just thinking about, like worstcase scenario here, what if you
took these photos?
Yep, and they're thebridesmaids and they're getting
shot out to the bridesmaidswhose faces are in them?
Sure, but the but?
the bride and the groom aredoing something embarrassing in
the back.
And now, all of a sudden, yourbride is like I don't want those
(10:49):
photos to be online And likethe girls don't even notice that
they're in the back and doingthis thing, or maybe for some
reason, the bride's dress cameup a little too hot, like I'm
just thinking about, like thebride cause to me.
I'm like okay, i generally likeI'll post things that I know
are okay with the bride in thegroom, but if there's a question
(11:10):
about it, This would beexpectations, so there's two
ways to handle this.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I know exactly what you're saying.
It's all part of the risk Causelike how embarrassing would
that?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
be for the bride of like.
The first photos that she'stagged in from her wedding night
are embarrassing ones of herthat she didn't even have access
to.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So I'm going to go to guess.
Then, if the bride is actuallyvery concerned about this, this
would potentially not be theproduct for them.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Okay, and you asked them before like you like.
ask them like are youinterested in the AI thing?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I don't even have anyone having this yet.
This is like I literallyshowcased it on the floor.
Finished the, i got the productfinal pieces in the mail a few
days ago.
So, yeah, it is brand new.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So I'm just, I'm the person that's like, wow, No but
you need to.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You need to do that, so and make sure that all the so
in the contract and in theconversations ahead of time it
will be.
These are not your, yourpremium edits.
These are this is meant to be amobile photo booth.
This is just.
But what you're getting out ofthis is a professional
photographer who, more oftenthan not, is going to take a
photo that's going to lookreally good on the dance floor,
(12:08):
versus just an iPhone, or yourpeople can put their iPhones
away and we got you covered.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So they can opt into automatically sending, or you
get to look through them at theend of the night before they're
set.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The option say like you know, one of the benefits to
this is people, your guests aregetting the photos live like as
it happens which, with thatbeing said, my photographers who
are going to do this are goingto be trained in picking and
choosing which photos to takecarefully Like maybe checking in
every 30 minutes and looking atwhat they got and sending it
(12:40):
out.
This is.
It's like live news, it's likelive anything.
When you are in the realm oflive, you just have to know that
there's a risk, that you knowwe're not going to be in the
bathroom taking photos Likesomething you know ridiculous,
but it's more of a.
If something were to be caughtand happen, you know we can
remove it from the gallery.
That's.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oh, I got my question back.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm sorry for cutting it off.
Yeah, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Okay, i know that you have probably had bridesmaids
and just people in general likethis.
I there's always this oneperson who wants to be in it.
Every single reception photoThere.
Oh, look at me, oh, look at me,oh, look at me.
I'm over here.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
All that I'll do it, all those things.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But, there's always that one person that wants to be
in every single photo, everysingle group, every single
dancing photo.
Sure, if they're automaticallygetting the photos of themselves
and they're like, wow, okay, doyou anticipate that person
becoming even more of a nuisance?
Because it does become anuisance when one person is just
jumping into every photo Andit's like this bride in the
groom are not going to have anylike reception photos without
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this one person.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, i'd go to argue that they're going to do it
anyway, that they're going tojump in.
They've already.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You don't think they would do it more?
I do.
It's like an instantgratification, like yeah, and
then all of a sudden it's ontheir phone.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yep, so, but it's one of those things where you know
again part of the training forwhoever's going to be actually
taking the photos.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Use common sense If it's the same person over and
over again.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
You can also just do the quick, like I'm going to
take a photo, but I'm notactually taking a photo because
it's the same person over and,over and over.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
What if that person expects to get it?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
An outgoing person is a good thing, but we want to
make sure it's not obnoxious.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, it's not an every single photo of the bride
in the groom are missing.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Same rules apply, use your common sense, and if it's
the same person over and over,don't take the photo.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, i just don't know how you would be like
excuse me, miss, you've hadenough.
You know, like you're cuttingthem off as if there was like a
bar.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Constantly, yeah, and then moving to the other side
of the dance floor and thencoming back, and I'll probably
have to deal with them again,because that's what we do anyway
.
So but it is a good point.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's why I'm just thinking like having that like
almost like a at the end of thenight.
You know, 20 minutes before thereception ends, your second
shooter can go through and go.
Ok, five per person instead ofthere's 30 of this person.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh no, this is absolutely a very special
training in.
You have to go slow with this.
This is a.
You do not take a lot of photos.
You see someone looking at thecamera and their finger guns
having a good time.
Snap that photo.
Yeah, If it's just a crowd oryou know is a mess.
Don't take the photo.
So that's what I'm for.
(15:19):
I will be on the dance floortaking those shots, trying to
capture that.
So this is a an event add on togive your guests something new
and fun using AI.
So, again, it may work, it maybe a flop, i don't know, but I'm
going to take that risk andwe'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You know what you should do is you should.
Don't let me tell you how touse your AI.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I'm all about ideas, that's just.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
But when you're so, like if the add on is there and
whatever, and you're like, ok,when you are taking down the
phone numbers, you should have aform like a form like on the
top that says five photos perperson You know what I'm saying
Like where it's like there is alimit to this, like you cannot
just keep jumping in front ofthe camera and have your own
photo shoot, because I couldexpect I could honestly see to
(16:05):
Aunt Debbie, can you come take afamily?
Can you come take our Christmascard?
And then all of a sudden it'sfive shots of the same family
for a Christmas card.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, it's very possible.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You know that too, But again, I guess it can just
be so annoying.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I know I'm going to go to guess that that same
person would have done it anyway, because I get asked if they
truly want that.
But if they see it instantlyand they don't like, it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
they're going to come back to you and go.
can you take another one?
I didn't like that one.
You know we're as opposed tolike going home and editing it
and being like you get what youget And you don't get upset Like
this was not your wedding.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Again, it'll be how many timesthat actually happens, And that
probably will happen Yeah you'rebraver than me.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's not something I could implement.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, well, we will have a well when we continue
this podcast.
At the end of the weddingseason, i will tell you we'll
have a recap on how did thisspot my photos go And you're
going to just hear in thebackground me throwing it in the
trash.
So that's no.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
No, because if a guest was like chasing me down,
like oh, I didn't like that onethat you took of me and my
boyfriend, Can you take anotherone?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
The film's out, the film's all gone.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
That's it, but it's not film because of AI And they
know that bullshit, they knowit's electric.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's a special film converter And it's out.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That's why you've got to figure out the film filter.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That would be it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That's it.
We just figured it out.
Oh sorry, Just figured it out.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
This is how it works.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh my god, You're braver than me.
I would not.
I get.
I love guests.
Like.
I'm not trying to make it soundlike I'm like the biggest bitch
in the whole world.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
But, like these are all valid questions.
Yeah, the night isn't about theguests, it's a new thing, so
there's going to be a lot ofscenarios.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And I don't want to say the night isn't about the
guests because, like, the wholeday is about everybody you
choose to have with you on theday.
But what I'm saying, i guess,is that I've had so many people
just hang in front of my cameradoing stupid stuff, where
they're stepping in front of thebride in the groom And I'm like
yo, like this is not your day,dude, but you've got to, and
there's really no way for me totell them to move out of the way
(18:00):
besides a quick tap and likepointing like behind you are the
people who matter.
Come on, dude Effects.
So I could just see people likechasing me around and me being
like my mom here.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, you can, i mean you could go as simple as
offering and tell the secondshooter to.
You know, because it's only, itwill only last as long as your
iPhone has battery, or you canjust turn it off, like a 15
minute limit.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
This is you can make your own rules with this and
however you want to contract it.
So I just think that it's it'ssomething new.
People have a great idea, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's just people will like it is.
It's an amazing idea, but youpeople will take advantage of it
if you let them, so there hasto be parameters around that,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, just got to play with it and figure it out.
My and I will always lean onthat.
The people that will takeadvantage of it will take
advantage of whatever I throw atthem, so are they're going to
try to.
Those people are always goingto be there, so I don't want to
stop.
Me from doing something that Ithink could be valuable.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So I had a bride.
They like I had a bridesmaidwho in the photos you would
think it was her wedding, likeshe.
just she jumped into everyphoto she could And I was.
Like it happens It, freakinghappens Well, I felt bad for the
bride, mostly Like what am Isupposed to tell your best
friend to like?
box out Dude like this is notyour wedding day, yeah, so I
(19:21):
just, i'm like OK, if you'regoing to let your friend walk on
you on your wedding day, likethat is what it is.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's right, hey.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I don't know, i don't know.
I like the thing, i think it'scool.
Actually, have you heard alllike the weirdness about like
Drake?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh yeah, there was a viral song with his voice.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
What was just?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Drake.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I don't know Who else is there.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Because there's, they're popping up now, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, I follow this account.
That's like Kanye singing songs.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
It's like Kanye singing Hey there, delilah.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
And it sounded real.
It's good.
It's good.
I'm going to download it.
Yeah, that's so weird.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I need to hear this, Yeah no, it's a pretty good one,
but it is, it's.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I haven't heard any of the songs yet.
I haven't, just, i just haven'tgone and look, dude hold on.
Well, we're going to hear this.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And then That's not something.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It's it's it's actually frightening because
it's moving.
Ai has become democratized,which means that everybody has
their hands on it all thesesmall companies and everything.
So what's it's?
what's cool about it is itgives this like revolution of
Ideas, like really cool ideasthat could be really beneficial
and helpful for different things, but at the same token, it
(20:45):
paves the way for really badideas and and Government and
laws can't keep up with thatkind of change.
So I mean, i will always pointback to the example of when My
god Zuckerberg was on trial andYou're not in trial.
He was just being, he was beinga questioned about the
(21:06):
different things with Facebook,and Some of the responses from
some of our elderly senatorswere like, wow, that's who's
responsible for our government?
They don't even they don'tunderstand the basics of the
internet.
No, it's like oh oh boy 15, 20years ago.
But you know our entire likeAmazon's e-commerce is a
(21:27):
majority of what people buy now.
So basically we have huge it.
How yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
well, i'm saying words again but, I was listening
to this, to this podcast, aboutthe Drake situation and like
one of their points was like,okay, i don't care about the
music, drake can go cry me ariver with that shit.
Yeah, whatever, yeah overJustin, but yeah, like I, he was
like the thing that scares memost is that I have children who
go to school, and How easywould it be for a predator to
(21:56):
Access to my voice.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yep, oh, it's already happened.
It's already been happening allthe school and tell them like
nope.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You can release my kids like they're good to go
whatever, and have somebody justpick them up.
I mean, the school shouldn'trelease them without actually
seeing a parent you know, butlike it does happen and it's
scary.
Somebody could take my voiceand Say that I said something
that I didn't and it ruins mylife like I'm just a little, i'm
a pebble in this world, likeit's not.
But the people who actually domatter I hope the people who
(22:24):
have kids to protect, likethat's.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Code words that you like don't share with anybody
other than a room.
So I we joke mean a few of myfriends have said we've said
this for years like if ever Techever got that crazy, or if, or
if one of us was kidnapped, yeah, and the person on the phone
Started speaking even anythingremotely polite about us, we
would know it's not the correctperson.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
So my mom used to go.
if anybody, if you're ever athome and you're scared and you
think that somebody's outside,call me and say there's a
squirrel crawling up the tree,there you go.
That's what we're gonna be,Yeah well, that's why I am who I
am, because my mom made meparanoid Listen, so this one has
a million views, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Oh My gosh this is Colby.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Hey, this is.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh, that's crazy.
That sounds very real.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, it's just, it's scary.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, it is.
That's that's frightening.
Yeah, oh god, i need to hearthis.
I don't know if I would believethat one.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I.
Pretty good, it's pretty italmost just sounds like he
recorded it over like zoom.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
It sounds like it's got like some element of like
it's not perfectly clear orsomething like that.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Feel real.
Yeah, that's, that's, yeah,it's yeah.
So this is where AI goes bad.
This is where it's getting itis, it's frightening.
So I hate saying and I hatesaying this that you know
There's been a lot of push.
I mean, we're talking the past,like two, three weeks push for
some big names in the worldCalling for I basically a pause
(24:26):
on all AI, because we need tostart figuring out a way to
regulate this, because and it'slike, yeah, i I'm all usually
for new ideas and letting theworld figure it out because it
allows It's democratization,it's it allows new ideas to
really explode fast and that'show you have revolutions and not
revolutions.
But, like I don't want todescribe it, when there's too
(24:51):
much control on a concept, itslows progress.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So and I'm usually four as a, as a initial nerdy,
whether-neak scientist I'm allabout scientific advancement,
because I think it's.
it's what part of the humanrace is.
It's just challenging ourselveswith new ideas.
But AI is frightening.
It can be.
It can be frightening And notin a like Terminator-esque.
(25:15):
So what we always go to is likea physical robot, like running
around telling everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I don't think it's actually going to be bad.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's going to be something dumb, like, well, what
you're seeing, there is justrunning rampant bots calling
people and you know, tellingthem that a loved one needs help
or money, and it's just likeit's going to be.
So all right, luckily we'vebeen trained and I get so many
spam calls.
If I don't immediatelyrecognize the number at all, i
don't even deal with it.
So it's wild.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah Well.
So what I'm thinking now islike, okay, even those people
who are, i mean, i'm like you,i'm all for like the
technological advances, i don'treally care Like whatever, but
like for something like that,with like the guests and stuff,
I could totally see people beinglike like putting their number
down and then being like, wait aminute, no AI, whether it's
(26:03):
through you, whether it'sthrough a T AI, knows what I
look like now.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
They don't have to do it.
I can always give them.
You know, you give them theforewarning.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Like, if you want this photo.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
You can type your phone number, Otherwise you
don't need to do it Are yougoing to do like a contract,
like explaining, like this is AI.
It's in what they when they putthe phone number in this little
terms of services.
So just like anything that yousign up for at any given store,
please read it, please, yeah.
It's more over a it's.
It's a you know you're going to, if you put your phone number
in, this is going to recognizeyour face and you're going to go
(26:33):
into a database for this, forthis one event to be.
But the company has said thatwhen the event is over, the data
is erased.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, they say that.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That's what it comes down to trust.
At that point It's hard to know, i know, i know.
So if you don't want to berecognized, or if a guest
doesn't want to be recognized,they don't have to.
So they can.
They can opt out, because we'llonly recognize the one face
that I tag.
So I have to, like, click onthe face and it puts a little
box around it And then that'sthe face that's tied to that
number for that event.
(27:03):
That's fantastic, dude.
That is so creepy to me.
It's where we're going.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, it's using.
The other thing that I like todo is that, if I don't take
advantage of it and trysomething, someone else is
already going to.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, No, it's a great idea.
Just it needs to be able to belike vetted.
Yeah, you know it's just scary,but I'll check back in with you
at the end of what season to go.
Please do That will be a funconversation We'll have to like
play like a snippet of this andthen do like start the other.
That's a good one.
Yeah, i like that.
(27:36):
I definitely like that.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I guess that'll just be me coming on terrible idea.
My camera over.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
We can hear you stopping it All right, i think
it's like up for today.
Yeah, me too.
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But some cool tech you have to keep up with and
change with as we continue tomove into the world of AI and
you hear over and over again anda lot of artists that listen to
this and creatives, you know,hate that word I will always say
that you should just at least,at the bare minimum, be aware
what's what's going on, so thatyou don't get caught in a world
that's so far ahead that youcan't catch up.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I just saw you post something that you used AI for
something.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I did.
It was a real good hit too.
So I'm very careful about whatI add to my wedding photography
business that is technologicallygeeky or something because it
can feel gimmicky.
Yeah, perfect.
Full circle here.
Whether Nikki, it has to makesense, has to make sense and
actually provide some form ofvalue.
A product that I went to aphotography conference earlier
(01:24):
this year, one on their exhibitfloor was shown a product and I
was like, wow, that's reallycool, like I was trying to
envision different ways youcould use that And I was like,
yeah, i could absolutely seethis being a thing, especially
with Gen Z and younger, as justthe concept of fast, fast fast.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What is it You can tell me?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, it's really cool.
So that actually that's themount for it over there, as I'm
pointing to my like shelf deskthing over there.
So what it is is it gives theability to it's really going to
be for, like the reception.
It gives the ability to tethermy iPhone to my camera.
So there's a that's what thatmount is over there, it's the
(02:05):
bracket, so I have it too.
The iPhone like hangs on theside actually, so it's, and then
it's corded to the phone.
So my camera now has a cordconnected, my professional
camera to my iPhone.
There's a special, there's acompany that's created a special
software and app That you haveto pay the license for, and what
it does is a couple things.
(02:26):
First thing it does is when Itake a photo, it moves the photo
because I'm tethered to myiPhone, to the app.
So the photo file, which youhave to have it set to a JPEG,
it's sent over to the app.
You immediately see it Onceit's in the app, it immediately
uploads to a gallery.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But in your camera it's still raw.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And my camera.
You can set a raw and a JPEGand then have it send the JPEG.
So it's still.
You can have the raw file, butfor the for the software, it
needs to be the JPEG.
So you send the JPEG over, goesto a gallery online,
immediately uploads.
Once you're there, i can justclick on the photo and I'm
hoping that someone's face isgoing to be on the photo.
(03:06):
I can click on the face that Iwant to click on And I'm going
to ask the guest to type intheir phone number or email and
they do that And two thingshappen The photo gets sent to
their phone so they have a linkto this gallery now.
But the best part about thisthis is the magic is that this
is where AI comes in for therest of the night.
Anytime I snap a photo of thatperson, it recognizes their face
(03:30):
and automatically I'm out.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
No, i cannot, I can't .
That's so creepy.
No, i would never give you myphone number.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So the the wedding show I just did was kind of a
test to see what people'sreactions were going to be.
I was in a pretty varied crowd.
I had, you know, i had frieswith their moms.
I had couples I had probably inthe age range of young, like
was like 23, 24, all the way upto a couple that was probably in
their like upper thirties.
I would say that was the rangeof couples.
(04:02):
I told Kelly like I probablyspoke with 20 to 25 different
couples.
Um, i'd say 80% of them weregenuine.
Wow, that's really coolreactions, like an out loud
saying, like if I could actuallyhave the quote, i would love
that on my dance floor.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
But are your edits on them?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Your edits are not on them.
So what I would do is there'dhave to be a special little
assumption.
It's basically the way youadvertise this.
This is a.
it's a mobile photo booth.
That's essentially what it is,so the photo isn't getting
edited either.
if it was just a photo boothcompany, so what I need but what
I need is a a second shooterwould handle this.
I would still be the primaryphotographer taking photos on
(04:46):
the dance floor that would bedelivered in their final gallery
.
These would just be extra oneoffs, so they're paying for an
add on to basically have yourguests just have a fun dance
photo that they can get on theirphone.
And maybe I'm not going to havemy second shooter go boom, boom
, boom, shoot a million times.
It's going to be a learningcurve where they're going to be
very careful about their shots,like dance move someone looking
(05:08):
at the camera one click.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know what I could see that doing, though.
First of all, it's creepy shit.
I don't like it.
I don't want AI to figure outwhat my face looks like and send
me all the photos ever.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I don't want AI in my house and you got Alexa in your
house and you're fine with that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh yeah, yes, All right, yes, but.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You're safe here, Brooke.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
We got no Alexa's, we got our phones.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So we're done anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So, number one Will they like, like, do they?
are you tied to it in any way?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Like it does it say like styles on the bottom.
You can do whatever you want.
You can have a white label,your label, or you could not.
That solves that problem.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Even though it doesn't have your edits on it,
so it's not your true work,which, like to me, i don't want
to take photos of people justdancing and have like the auto
thing to me is a little scary,because what if I take a shit
photo and I'm like and it justgoes straight to their phone?
There's that.
I don't want them to receivebad photos of themselves and be
like ew what the hell you know?
(06:11):
Yep And have my watermark on it.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's well.
this is where it's there, Likeif it's an actual, like, just
terrible, you know, facesquished in, not a great photo.
the good thing is that eachguest is only getting their own
photos, so it's not like there'sa full gallery that all the
guests are seeing at once, Butyou don't get to go through and
(06:36):
go.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
OK, these are.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You can, at the end, go through and pick and choose
which ones actually getdelivered.
So, at the end.
I'm not the bride and groomernot getting them until you
submit it.
And I had, i would have accessto the whole gallery beforehand.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So it's not automatically like I'm not.
It's like snap, snap And thenit's just like boom goes right
to your phone.
It's not doing that on thedance floor, where like It can,
it can do that.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
That's kind of.
The benefit is that your guestsare getting live photos of, and
they're, generally speaking,going to be better than an
iPhone because you have a flashattached to your camera, of
course, but if it's shitty Ijust wouldn't want for like if
it's, if it's not good, then theguest will they have their own
private gallery, like it's justbecause I've only tagged them
(07:18):
and it's tied to that phonenumber email, so it's not like
another, it's not like all theguests will see that photo, just
that guess will get that photoAnd at the end, when the bride
and groom get all of the Ifthat's what you want to do, you
don't even have to do that.
You don't have to offer that.
Yeah, if you just want it to bea live guest, get their photos
And then that's it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I think I would almost prefer to like Ask people
for their phone numbers andstuff, do the, do the face thing
, and then at the end of thenight, when I'm done, i can
quickly go through and go oh,that was a mess up, that was a
mess up.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And then they just get bulk photos sent out.
You can absolutely do that too.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
OK, Number two what if there's twins?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So I didn't even think of that.
That's a good point.
Well then I would go to assumethat they understand that The
tech is maybe not there, andthen, or just tell them.
I would literally, in the dancefloor, be like wow, you're so
ignorant.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You sent me photos of my fist Yeah.
Number three.
That's a funny question, i'mjust saying No, these are the
questions we need.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, i should submit it to them right now.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What do we do if?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
there's one.
What do we do if there's twins?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Oh my god, i had another.
Really really good morning.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, you're thinking of that, Yeah, so ultimately,
it's no matter what.
In any instance, i have an openmind to at least give it a
trial run, see how the marketlikes it If it.
if it's a flop and people arelike this is a terrible photo,
what I would actually be doingis branding these photos.
That's a photography styles onthem, but I would brand it with
(08:46):
something like photographystyles And then like a special
other, like spot my photo, likethe company's called spot my
photos.
So it'd be like photographystyles and spot my photo.
So they know it's a.
This is a separate thing, yeah,so if anyone ever shared it,
that's OK.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It would be cool if you could like upload a filter
to them before they go.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'm sure that something you can do.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I just don't think you can do it now Because I was
going to say like if you couldtake like if all those photos
that you took didn't exactlyhave your editing, because
obviously you don't have thetime when you're on the dance
floor, But if it could do like ayou know a polaroid point?
Yeah, Yeah, but if it could likethrow a polaroid filter onto it
or something where it's like alittle bit more vibey, and it's
not just like natural straightfrom the camera, like that would
(09:28):
make me feel a little morebetter.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's a, i mean I'm going to go to say that it's
still in a like startup phasecompany.
So it's something they would,i'm sure, if they don't have it
already and I just missed it,but I don't, i don't think so.
Yeah, that would.
I mean it's going to berequested, i can send the
request and they could work onthat, because there's a, there's
a, a photo booth that I alsooffer.
That's just like a small it'smore economical photo booth.
(09:53):
It's basically a ring lightwith a camera in it And you can
just place it anywhere and justlet it go And it makes gifts.
That's what's fun about it.
So, like people doing like thisSo fun Yeah, it's just a cute
way of doing it, and those haveit's been interesting to look
back at like the Facebook group,for if you're part of this
company, and like from when theystarted, and like the people
bringing in requests that arepart of the group And like they
(10:15):
didn't have, they didn't use tohave filters and now they have
filters.
So like you can do like sepia,black and white, you can do like
all sorts of different things,so you can make overlays, you
can do where it says, like theperson's wedding, so forth.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
So so what?
if so?
just thinking about, like worstcase scenario here, what if you
took these photos?
Yep, and they're thebridesmaids and they're getting
shot out to the bridesmaidswhose faces are in them?
Sure, but the but?
the bride and the groom aredoing something embarrassing in
the back.
And now, all of a sudden, yourbride is like I don't want those
(10:49):
photos to be online And likethe girls don't even notice that
they're in the back and doingthis thing, or maybe for some
reason, the bride's dress cameup a little too hot, like I'm
just thinking about, like thebride cause to me.
I'm like okay, i generally likeI'll post things that I know
are okay with the bride in thegroom, but if there's a question
(11:10):
about it, This would beexpectations, so there's two
ways to handle this.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I know exactly what you're saying.
It's all part of the risk Causelike how embarrassing would
that?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
be for the bride of like.
The first photos that she'stagged in from her wedding night
are embarrassing ones of herthat she didn't even have access
to.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So I'm going to go to guess.
Then, if the bride is actuallyvery concerned about this, this
would potentially not be theproduct for them.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Okay, and you asked them before like you like.
ask them like are youinterested in the AI thing?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I don't even have anyone having this yet.
This is like I literallyshowcased it on the floor.
Finished the, i got the productfinal pieces in the mail a few
days ago.
So, yeah, it is brand new.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So I'm just, I'm the person that's like, wow, No but
you need to.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You need to do that, so and make sure that all the so
in the contract and in theconversations ahead of time it
will be.
These are not your, yourpremium edits.
These are this is meant to be amobile photo booth.
This is just.
But what you're getting out ofthis is a professional
photographer who, more oftenthan not, is going to take a
photo that's going to lookreally good on the dance floor,
(12:08):
versus just an iPhone, or yourpeople can put their iPhones
away and we got you covered.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So they can opt into automatically sending, or you
get to look through them at theend of the night before they're
set.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The option say like you know, one of the benefits to
this is people, your guests aregetting the photos live like as
it happens which, with thatbeing said, my photographers who
are going to do this are goingto be trained in picking and
choosing which photos to takecarefully Like maybe checking in
every 30 minutes and looking atwhat they got and sending it
(12:40):
out.
This is.
It's like live news, it's likelive anything.
When you are in the realm oflive, you just have to know that
there's a risk, that you knowwe're not going to be in the
bathroom taking photos Likesomething you know ridiculous,
but it's more of a.
If something were to be caughtand happen, you know we can
remove it from the gallery.
That's.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oh, I got my question back.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm sorry for cutting it off.
Yeah, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Okay, i know that you have probably had bridesmaids
and just people in general likethis.
I there's always this oneperson who wants to be in it.
Every single reception photoThere.
Oh, look at me, oh, look at me,oh, look at me.
I'm over here.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
All that I'll do it, all those things.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But, there's always that one person that wants to be
in every single photo, everysingle group, every single
dancing photo.
Sure, if they're automaticallygetting the photos of themselves
and they're like, wow, okay, doyou anticipate that person
becoming even more of a nuisance?
Because it does become anuisance when one person is just
jumping into every photo Andit's like this bride in the
groom are not going to have anylike reception photos without
(13:44):
this one person.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, i'd go to argue that they're going to do it
anyway, that they're going tojump in.
They've already.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
You don't think they would do it more?
I do.
It's like an instantgratification, like yeah, and
then all of a sudden it's ontheir phone.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yep, so, but it's one of those things where you know
again part of the training forwhoever's going to be actually
taking the photos.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Use common sense If it's the same person over and
over again.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
You can also just do the quick, like I'm going to
take a photo, but I'm notactually taking a photo because
it's the same person over and,over and over.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
What if that person expects to get it?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
An outgoing person is a good thing, but we want to
make sure it's not obnoxious.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, it's not an every single photo of the bride
in the groom are missing.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Same rules apply, use your common sense, and if it's
the same person over and over,don't take the photo.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, i just don't know how you would be like
excuse me, miss, you've hadenough.
You know, like you're cuttingthem off as if there was like a
bar.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Constantly, yeah, and then moving to the other side
of the dance floor and thencoming back, and I'll probably
have to deal with them again,because that's what we do anyway
.
So but it is a good point.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's why I'm just thinking like having that like
almost like a at the end of thenight.
You know, 20 minutes before thereception ends, your second
shooter can go through and go.
Ok, five per person instead ofthere's 30 of this person.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh no, this is absolutely a very special
training in.
You have to go slow with this.
This is a.
You do not take a lot of photos.
You see someone looking at thecamera and their finger guns
having a good time.
Snap that photo.
Yeah, If it's just a crowd oryou know is a mess.
Don't take the photo.
So that's what I'm for.
(15:19):
I will be on the dance floortaking those shots, trying to
capture that.
So this is a an event add on togive your guests something new
and fun using AI.
So, again, it may work, it maybe a flop, i don't know, but I'm
going to take that risk andwe'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You know what you should do is you should.
Don't let me tell you how touse your AI.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I'm all about ideas, that's just.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
But when you're so, like if the add on is there and
whatever, and you're like, ok,when you are taking down the
phone numbers, you should have aform like a form like on the
top that says five photos perperson You know what I'm saying
Like where it's like there is alimit to this, like you cannot
just keep jumping in front ofthe camera and have your own
photo shoot, because I couldexpect I could honestly see to
(16:05):
Aunt Debbie, can you come take afamily?
Can you come take our Christmascard?
And then all of a sudden it'sfive shots of the same family
for a Christmas card.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, it's very possible.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You know that too, But again, I guess it can just
be so annoying.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I know I'm going to go to guess that that same
person would have done it anyway, because I get asked if they
truly want that.
But if they see it instantlyand they don't like, it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
they're going to come back to you and go.
can you take another one?
I didn't like that one.
You know we're as opposed tolike going home and editing it
and being like you get what youget And you don't get upset Like
this was not your wedding.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Again, it'll be how many timesthat actually happens, And that
probably will happen Yeah you'rebraver than me.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
That's not something I could implement.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, well, we will have a well when we continue
this podcast.
At the end of the weddingseason, i will tell you we'll
have a recap on how did thisspot my photos go And you're
going to just hear in thebackground me throwing it in the
trash.
So that's no.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
No, because if a guest was like chasing me down,
like oh, I didn't like that onethat you took of me and my
boyfriend, Can you take anotherone?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
The film's out, the film's all gone.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
That's it, but it's not film because of AI And they
know that bullshit, they knowit's electric.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's a special film converter And it's out.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That's why you've got to figure out the film filter.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That would be it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
That's it.
We just figured it out.
Oh sorry, Just figured it out.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
This is how it works.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh my god, You're braver than me.
I would not.
I get.
I love guests.
Like.
I'm not trying to make it soundlike I'm like the biggest bitch
in the whole world.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
But, like these are all valid questions.
Yeah, the night isn't about theguests, it's a new thing, so
there's going to be a lot ofscenarios.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And I don't want to say the night isn't about the
guests because, like, the wholeday is about everybody you
choose to have with you on theday.
But what I'm saying, i guess,is that I've had so many people
just hang in front of my cameradoing stupid stuff, where
they're stepping in front of thebride in the groom And I'm like
yo, like this is not your day,dude, but you've got to, and
there's really no way for me totell them to move out of the way
(18:00):
besides a quick tap and likepointing like behind you are the
people who matter.
Come on, dude Effects.
So I could just see people likechasing me around and me being
like my mom here.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, you can, i mean you could go as simple as
offering and tell the secondshooter to.
You know, because it's only, itwill only last as long as your
iPhone has battery, or you canjust turn it off, like a 15
minute limit.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
This is you can make your own rules with this and
however you want to contract it.
So I just think that it's it'ssomething new.
People have a great idea, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's just people will like it is.
It's an amazing idea, but youpeople will take advantage of it
if you let them, so there hasto be parameters around that,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, just got to play with it and figure it out.
My and I will always lean onthat.
The people that will takeadvantage of it will take
advantage of whatever I throw atthem, so are they're going to
try to.
Those people are always goingto be there, so I don't want to
stop.
Me from doing something that Ithink could be valuable.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So I had a bride.
They like I had a bridesmaidwho in the photos you would
think it was her wedding, likeshe.
just she jumped into everyphoto she could And I was.
Like it happens It, freakinghappens Well, I felt bad for the
bride, mostly Like what am Isupposed to tell your best
friend to like?
box out Dude like this is notyour wedding day, yeah, so I
(19:21):
just, i'm like OK, if you'regoing to let your friend walk on
you on your wedding day, likethat is what it is.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's right, hey.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I don't know, i don't know.
I like the thing, i think it'scool.
Actually, have you heard alllike the weirdness about like
Drake?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh yeah, there was a viral song with his voice.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
What was just?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Drake.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I don't know Who else is there.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Because there's, they're popping up now, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, I follow this account.
That's like Kanye singing songs.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
It's like Kanye singing Hey there, delilah.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
And it sounded real.
It's good.
It's good.
I'm going to download it.
Yeah, that's so weird.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I need to hear this, Yeah no, it's a pretty good one,
but it is, it's.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I haven't heard any of the songs yet.
I haven't, just, i just haven'tgone and look, dude hold on.
Well, we're going to hear this.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And then That's not something.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It's it's it's actually frightening because
it's moving.
Ai has become democratized,which means that everybody has
their hands on it all thesesmall companies and everything.
So what's it's?
what's cool about it is itgives this like revolution of
Ideas, like really cool ideasthat could be really beneficial
and helpful for different things, but at the same token, it
(20:45):
paves the way for really badideas and and Government and
laws can't keep up with thatkind of change.
So I mean, i will always pointback to the example of when My
god Zuckerberg was on trial andYou're not in trial.
He was just being, he was beinga questioned about the
(21:06):
different things with Facebook,and Some of the responses from
some of our elderly senatorswere like, wow, that's who's
responsible for our government?
They don't even they don'tunderstand the basics of the
internet.
No, it's like oh oh boy 15, 20years ago.
But you know our entire likeAmazon's e-commerce is a
(21:27):
majority of what people buy now.
So basically we have huge it.
How yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
well, i'm saying words again but, I was listening
to this, to this podcast, aboutthe Drake situation and like
one of their points was like,okay, i don't care about the
music, drake can go cry me ariver with that shit.
Yeah, whatever, yeah overJustin, but yeah, like I, he was
like the thing that scares memost is that I have children who
go to school, and How easywould it be for a predator to
(21:56):
Access to my voice.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yep, oh, it's already happened.
It's already been happening allthe school and tell them like
nope.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You can release my kids like they're good to go
whatever, and have somebody justpick them up.
I mean, the school shouldn'trelease them without actually
seeing a parent you know, butlike it does happen and it's
scary.
Somebody could take my voiceand Say that I said something
that I didn't and it ruins mylife like I'm just a little, i'm
a pebble in this world, likeit's not.
But the people who actually domatter I hope the people who
(22:24):
have kids to protect, likethat's.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Code words that you like don't share with anybody
other than a room.
So I we joke mean a few of myfriends have said we've said
this for years like if ever Techever got that crazy, or if, or
if one of us was kidnapped, yeah, and the person on the phone
Started speaking even anythingremotely polite about us, we
would know it's not the correctperson.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
So my mom used to go.
if anybody, if you're ever athome and you're scared and you
think that somebody's outside,call me and say there's a
squirrel crawling up the tree,there you go.
That's what we're gonna be,Yeah well, that's why I am who I
am, because my mom made meparanoid Listen, so this one has
a million views, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Oh My gosh this is Colby.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Hey, this is.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh, that's crazy.
That sounds very real.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, it's just, it's scary.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, it is.
That's that's frightening.
Yeah, oh god, i need to hearthis.
I don't know if I would believethat one.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I.
Pretty good, it's pretty italmost just sounds like he
recorded it over like zoom.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
It sounds like it's got like some element of like
it's not perfectly clear orsomething like that.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Feel real.
Yeah, that's, that's, yeah,it's yeah.
So this is where AI goes bad.
This is where it's getting itis, it's frightening.
So I hate saying and I hatesaying this that you know
There's been a lot of push.
I mean, we're talking the past,like two, three weeks push for
some big names in the worldCalling for I basically a pause
(24:26):
on all AI, because we need tostart figuring out a way to
regulate this, because and it'slike, yeah, i I'm all usually
for new ideas and letting theworld figure it out because it
allows It's democratization,it's it allows new ideas to
really explode fast and that'show you have revolutions and not
revolutions.
But, like I don't want todescribe it, when there's too
(24:51):
much control on a concept, itslows progress.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So and I'm usually four as a, as a initial nerdy,
whether-neak scientist I'm allabout scientific advancement,
because I think it's.
it's what part of the humanrace is.
It's just challenging ourselveswith new ideas.
But AI is frightening.
It can be.
It can be frightening And notin a like Terminator-esque.
(25:15):
So what we always go to is likea physical robot, like running
around telling everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I don't think it's actually going to be bad.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's going to be something dumb, like, well, what
you're seeing, there is justrunning rampant bots calling
people and you know, tellingthem that a loved one needs help
or money, and it's just likeit's going to be.
So all right, luckily we'vebeen trained and I get so many
spam calls.
If I don't immediatelyrecognize the number at all, i
don't even deal with it.
So it's wild.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah Well.
So what I'm thinking now islike, okay, even those people
who are, i mean, i'm like you,i'm all for like the
technological advances, i don'treally care Like whatever, but
like for something like that,with like the guests and stuff,
I could totally see people beinglike like putting their number
down and then being like, wait aminute, no AI, whether it's
(26:03):
through you, whether it'sthrough a T AI, knows what I
look like now.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
They don't have to do it.
I can always give them.
You know, you give them theforewarning.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Like, if you want this photo.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
You can type your phone number, Otherwise you
don't need to do it Are yougoing to do like a contract,
like explaining, like this is AI.
It's in what they when they putthe phone number in this little
terms of services.
So just like anything that yousign up for at any given store,
please read it, please, yeah.
It's more over a it's.
It's a you know you're going to, if you put your phone number
in, this is going to recognizeyour face and you're going to go
(26:33):
into a database for this, forthis one event to be.
But the company has said thatwhen the event is over, the data
is erased.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, they say that.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That's what it comes down to trust.
At that point It's hard to know, i know, i know.
So if you don't want to berecognized, or if a guest
doesn't want to be recognized,they don't have to.
So they can.
They can opt out, because we'llonly recognize the one face
that I tag.
So I have to, like, click onthe face and it puts a little
box around it And then that'sthe face that's tied to that
number for that event.
(27:03):
That's fantastic, dude.
That is so creepy to me.
It's where we're going.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, it's using.
The other thing that I like todo is that, if I don't take
advantage of it and trysomething, someone else is
already going to.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, No, it's a great idea.
Just it needs to be able to belike vetted.
Yeah, you know it's just scary,but I'll check back in with you
at the end of what season to go.
Please do That will be a funconversation We'll have to like
play like a snippet of this andthen do like start the other.
That's a good one.
Yeah, i like that.
(27:36):
I definitely like that.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I guess that'll just be me coming on terrible idea.
My camera over.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
We can hear you stopping it All right, i think
it's like up for today.
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Hey, make sure you check back every Tuesday for
more episodes of everything isBS podcast.
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