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July 5, 2023 43 mins

Ever mowed your lawn and ended up losing a big toe? Me neither, but my brother wasn’t so lucky. Listen up as I share a hilarious and somewhat horrifying tale of this freak lawnmower incident. The story encompasses everything from a calm neighbor to my sister-in-law-to-be identifying the toe, the chaotic surgery, and my brother's recovery process. You’ll also get to know the chucklesome nickname this mishap earned him. 

Next, can you imagine a super volcano like Yellowstone erupting? Although it might sound far-fetched, the consequences would be immense. Today, we take you on a journey discussing the impact such an event would have on global temperatures, food chain, and our overall ecosystem. Brace yourselves as we delve into the power of nature and how we often underestimate our lack of control over our planet.

Finally for our main conversation, have you ever pondered over the dos and don'ts when attending a wedding? Hold your thoughts as we dissect wedding etiquette, focusing on guests' behavior. We discuss the delicate intricacies around plus one invitations, dealing with non-married guests, and how to be the perfect guest. We also navigate the challenges faced by wedding photographers in the era of ubiquitous cellphone cameras and the importance of respecting their roles. So, get ready to be entertained, informed, and perhaps a bit shell-shocked in this rollercoaster of an episode.

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Speaker 2 (00:00):
And we are recording.
We are live with our podcast.
It is June 27th And I've got acrazy story that you don't know
about.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I have specifically not told you because I wanted to
share it here.
On this, okay, tell me.
Okay, let me set the stagebecause this is a bit wild.
So I have a younger brother,six years younger than me, and
he was at his house two weeksago, normal summer day, mowing
the lawn, doing his thing, andhe was mowing And he was there's

(00:36):
a little, there's like a littlehill that goes into the
driveway, but it's a littlesteep hill And he was pushing
the mower and he another portionof the story he was this was
the last piece that he was doneafter this And he's mowing and
he's going down the hill withthe mower And this is where the
driveway connects.
So there's like there's a curb,like a little lifted curb, so

(00:58):
he's pushing the mower down Andwhen he pulled the mower back up
, his feet slipped under him Andhis foot No went under the
mower.
He dropped the mower, looked athis foot and saw that his shoe

(01:25):
was chopped, except he didn'tfeel anything yet And he
continued to look and he lookeddown at what looked like his big
toe was chopped off.
And he looked up and was likeno, that's not real.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
The horror.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
So he thought about it for a second, looked back
down, saw that his toe waschopped off.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Off, completely off.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Half half the big toe was sliced right off, So this
happened two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
How did I not know this yet?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I have not really posted about it, I have not
talked about it, So just kind ofwaiting to make sure that you
know he was okay.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, because.
So after he ran around thehouse to his fiance and was like
hospital, hospital, need to goto hospital and Did they burn
the piece of the toe?
So this is even, this is the thegrosser part of the story.
He it didn't even like occur tohim, he didn't even think about
that.
But his neighbor, i guess, sawhim, came over, asked what was

(02:28):
wrong And Kevin told him, mybrother, you know, i mode
chopped my toe off And I guessthe neighbor was very calm, cool
and collected.
I was like, okay, do you wantme to help you find it?
And he didn't even think aboutit.
He was like sure, yeah, i guess.
So Meanwhile, meanwhile, hisfiance is inside thinking

(02:50):
thinking he just like sliced it,like no, has no context, no
idea, just like okay, let me getyou know, go inside, we're
going to get in the car.
And then I guess, the neighborI'm going to care, i'm going to
push this part of the story, I'mtrying to remember the specific
detail, but pretty positivethat the neighbor he was like I
can't do this to something.

(03:11):
No, yeah, she's like I can'thandle this.
Yeah, She, the neighbor pointeddown to to his fiance Claire,
like something on the ground Andshe's like what?
And she looked down and shethis is you don't want to hear
that.
She looked down And she's.
What she's looking at is apiece of something that she said
look like if you ever closeyour ears we don't hear.

(03:32):
This bit of grape in half andthe inside of it.
And then she still didn't knowwhat it was, picked it up and
was like, oh that's, that's atoe.
And then she again had no ideaat this point and just
immediately like panic would bemy guess.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, what did she do ?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Ran inside, put it in a cup of ice, even if the
funnier details of the story arethey ran into the car, they're
the couple.
Like this is the like, the, theridiculous semantics, like the
extra portions of the story.
Both her cup holders were taken, so she just put it in between
her lap and she's driving withthis.

(04:13):
Okay, what's so important inyour cup?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
You don't know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
But maybe in the panic and drive, like you can't
dump it, maybe it was full, likefor me, i would leave, like you
know, a drink in there and it's.
There's nowhere else to put it.
I'm unwell.
So, luckily, the hospital isnot far away.
It's in.
they live, like you know, a fewminutes from it, so it's just
down the hill.
So they hopped down to thehospital and, yeah, they.
unfortunately it could not besewed back on, so the How's your

(04:42):
brother's balance since?
he well, we don't really knowyet.
Um, he should be okay.
They told him that he should beokay because it wasn't.
It wasn't the whole toe, it wasjust.
It was like slightly actuallyabove the, the joint.
Like, uh, you know, like theysaid, the joint.
Like, uh, you know, like theknuckle joint.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
So where the nail, the nail is gone.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yes, It is.
they had to do surgery and itis a.
it is a closed nub now, So heis missing that portion of his
toe.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
My brother has a nub on his on his hand.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's I would.
How did he have that done?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
He is a contractor and he does, you know all the
things and he is uh not verycareful.
So, you know, i I think it'slike.
I think it's like his ringfinger too, oh, uh, but yeah
that's that's horrifying,actually.
So you're, he hasn't beenwalking.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
No, he's in a.
He's like in a, a boot that's,and then it's got rapping and
then he's got crutches.
So I did see him yesterday.
He's doing okay, he was, he wascompletely himself, he just you
know.
But for the it wasn't he was.
I mean, it's weird to thinkabout that.
It happened and he didn't evenknow it happened, so like there
was no immediate pain, because Ithink your body just kind of
goes into like a shock.

(05:59):
And then, even then he said youknow, the pain wasn't, it was,
you know, sweating a lot, but itwasn't.
The pain wasn't too much thereyet, and it wasn't until the
next day.
And then also the when he hadsurgery, which, by the way, took
days.
It took a few days before theycould get him into surgery, so

(06:19):
he was just at home waiting witha open, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
How's this Beyonce?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
She said I'm traumatized.
So she told me last night Yeah.
Claire, if you hear this dude,sorry, you are a hero.
You are a hero.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Oh, my God Yeah.
I don't know, i don't know if Iwould have like.
No, i'm pretty good underpressure, i guess.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
But when you think about it.
Yeah, i know, oh my God, still,though crazy, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
So what they do for the surgery, they just like
stitch it up and it's a closednub now.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yep, They had to shave it down a little bit
because they got to take theskin and basically surgically
sew it up, make it a piece.
But he said after the surgeryhe was in a lot of pain for a
couple days.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
So he said it was just burning.
I hate that very much.
Thank you for sharing.
How can I not share that?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's like, yeah, when I got a phone call from my mom
who was telling me, like yourbrother's in the hospital, and
it's like, oh my God.
So we, yeah, talking on thephone, put his foot under the
mower and it's like, oh my, likehis whole foot or no, it was
just his toe, okay.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, when I was a kid, you know they my
grandfather wouldn't even let meride a bike without shoes on.
He's like nope, if you get yourfoot caught in the spindles or
whatever, he was like I couldtake off a toe.
My dad wouldn't let us mowwithout closed-toed shoes, and
that's.
But when you're a kid andyou're like, oh my, you know, my
parents are being too careful,too cautious, like nothing's
going to happen, you know, andthen you're a full-blown adult

(07:57):
mowing your lawn and you lose atoe.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
You lose a toe.
That's it, and that's it's uh,he already said, his uh, i don't
know if his coworkers or hisfriends with the calling him his
nicknames 9.5.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Okay, okay, that's a good one I'm going to take that
for my brother Dan.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, that's a good one 9.5 is catchy.
I was like, yeah, if you playedany sports and you actually had
like a jersey with a number,that'd be your number, that'd be
great, oh my God.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
So what's the recovery on that?
What does that look like?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think a few weeks honestly.
So I mean it, it just has to.
It's already, he said, lookingmore normal than it.
You know, normal with it beingcovered.
It's not purple and red and allsorts of things.
Yeah, with the skin is alreadylike kind of grown back and um
in that enclosed area.
But yeah, you got to.
He has to change the bandages,i think every two to three days,
so in the first comes in visits.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Perfect.
So I thought your, i thoughtyour big toe had a lot to do
with your balance.
It does, it does.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
So the key point is that he did not lose the entire
thing.
It's that subtle.
So the fact that he still hashalf of it makes a difference
where I think his balance isgoing to be a little bit off.
But they said he should be okay, like you, should be able to to
absolutely deal with it.
But when it comes to like so hewas a skateboarder.
He was a skateboarder growingup and he was explaining to me
last night He's in, you knowthat he doesn't skateboard as

(09:14):
much anymore, but he stilloccasionally would.
But he's like I don't, i don'tknow how that's going to work
because you, you use your bigtoe a lot to like, you know,
move the board and somethingnear when you're doing things.
So.
But he's a big, he loves togolf too, so he's as long as he
can golf.
And the nurse was like, yeah,you'll be fine, you can go.
And he was like okay, you cangolf, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Um, I hate to change the subject.
Do you see what's going on withmy camera right now?
Do you see it?
It's like half and half.
It's like there's a filter onhalf.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, you do have a filter going on.
Oh, i wonder if it's youractual.
I wonder if it's your actualcamera.
I'm gonna try to clean itreally quick.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
What the heck is that I'm so confused.
More confused though.
Okay, let's give that a go.
Yeah, i think it was just dirty, but that's really weird,

(10:07):
because it didn't do that forthe first few minutes.
Yeah, really.
I didn't recognize it yet Umthank you for sharing that with
me.
I appreciate that story.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Um, it's, yeah, he's.
um, i'm happy he's doing okayAnd uh thank goodness it was
just the little.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, a big toe, but thank goodness it was just a
little portion of it.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I was a portion of it , yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Whoa, i got nothing for you today.
I went to the Cape Um.
This is my new mug from CapeCod, from Nirvana coffee.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
It was really good, never been to the Cape Really,
so Chad hadn't been either.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
He hadn't been until last year when we went to go
visit my aunt and uncle and Iwas like there's no way like how
, but he also has never gone toNewport or anything either, and
I'm like to me.
I feel like my parents tookadvantage of all of the within
driving you know range tripsthat they could to, to probably
like to get us out of the house.
But but no, chad was saying likehe's not, he had never been to.

(11:06):
Well, i don't think he has beento Newport still We haven't
gone together, and last year washis first trip to the Cape.
It's it's just so strange thatyour family would take trips
down to Florida and not like upa few hours to the Cape.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's, yeah, i don't know.
I don't know.
I think it's because it's oneof those things that and I hear
this everywhere where peopledon't visit the things that are
near them or relatively close tothem, we take advantage of it.
We do.
It's a thing, i know it's athing.
It'll always be there, that'sthat's.
That's what you said.
It's always.
You know we'll do it next year,it's fine.
So but it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, it was good.
We I actually had a familysession with my cousin and my
aunt and my uncle and it wasreally nice to see them as
grandparents.
We used to call my my.
My grandfather on my dad's sidewas Papa, and then my dad to my
sister's kids was Papa, And nowmy uncle, Bruce to my cousin's

(12:01):
son is Papa and it's just, it'svery cute And I I love the title
, I love that's wearing itproudly.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, it's just kind of everybody's Papa and our
family.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
So it was really nice to see them like enjoying the
grandparent life, because my, mycousin, she's a, she's a
photographer.
She's kind of like me where shereally wanted to like live a
lot of life.
Well, like you too, she wantedto live life before she gave her
life to kids and so they justhad their first baby and he's
six months old now and he is alittle cutie.
So I got to take photos of allof them and Chad was right there

(12:34):
.
I think Chad was bored atcertain moments, but it was cute
.
He was taking photos, or videosof us taking photos, so like
we're outside and we're like allbouncing with the baby And he's
like it's so funny cause all ofyou guys are going up down, so
we have like those cute videos.
And then he grabbed some photosof me and my cousin as well.

(12:56):
So so it was a good family day,so some really nice needed
family time Definitely.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
And were you down by the water?
Well, I feel like I saw a photoyou posted of you and Chad down
by the water.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, we.
we started at my, my aunt anduncle's house and we had some of
our candidates.
You know I love like thein-home sessions and just
capturing you as you are now.
And then we went to a sceniclocation that was about five
minutes away and right after wewere done my cousin asked if she
could just snag my camera totake a photo of me and Chad.
So we don't ever have photostogether and that feels really

(13:28):
nice to have.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I go to guess that most photographers feel that way
, who are especially the wedding?
wedding photographers were justbehind it.
So much you never have it infront of you.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
It's just yeah, i mean, you don't even think about
it, you're just like all right,i'm going to leave my camera at
home, but doing it with familywas kind of nice cause, and
she's a photographer too, so shetotally gets it and she
understands.
So, yeah, the only I.
When I came home, i was like,oh man, i didn't get any photos
of my aunt and my uncle, but my,this is the aunt that actually
married me and Chad.
So just a really specialweekend and I got to share some

(14:00):
of my dad's scans the scans thatI did from his box of film, and
, um, yeah, just a good familyweekend.
I kind of needed it Nice.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, and I think you lucked out weather-wise too.
Right, we did Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
We were supposed to.
I didn't even pack a bathingsuit because it was supposed to
be so rainy.
And then on Sunday we woke upand we could have gone to the
beach, yeah.
And then I was like you knowwhat I have like all these body
suits.
I'm like we could go to thebeach.
And Chad was like, yeah, butlike you can't go in the water,
and you know so, not that I wantto go in the water.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, Oh no, We know that We have that conversation.
That's yeah, that's a wholedifferent story.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
But yeah, no, it was a good weekend So, but I'm happy
to be home.
I like going to places and thengoing home in your own bed and
like appreciating it more,because you're not that it was
uncomfortable there at all.
It just you're out of place Andthen when you get back in your
place, you feel like ah.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
And every year that passes and you get older, you
appreciate it more and more.
You get into your own home andyou're like oh, especially for
especially for the introvertsright.
We love our home space, so yeah, i just shared something
yesterday It was.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I think it was like Homer Simpson, like looking out
of a window.
And I was like hiding in yourhouse after multiple days of
social interaction.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
And I'm like that's me Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah.
So I did a poll recently and Iasked my clients what their
wedding, what rules, whatunspoken rules and sometimes
they're spoken, but whatunspoken rules did your wedding
guests break?
And so today I would love totalk about wedding guest

(15:34):
etiquette, aka guest weddikitWeddikit.
I love that Weddikit.
So we started.
We started one.
It was short, it was not verygood quality a while ago, and
now that we've kind of figuredout a little bit more of the
quality and we don't have asmany mouth sounds, i figured
maybe we could like re-record alonger episode with more

(15:57):
examples and things that arespecifically taken from my
clients.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
What's funny is I was going to say I think it was a
long ago that we recorded itwhen there was snow on the
ground, and then I was like, ohwait, no, but I don't know what
snow on the ground looks likeanymore.
So because we don't get thathere, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I'm really, really hoping.
Actually, something Chad justtold me something about like a
volcano erupting that couldcause a global winter.
Have you heard anything aboutthat, you know?

Speaker 2 (16:22):
if not as of the most recent, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's a threat 100% of the time.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
It's always a threat.
It's a.
You know, yellowstone is asuper volcano And if Yellowstone
did blow up first of all, aportion of that area would just
be like gone And it would be bigenough that it would affect
cloud cover temperatures acrossthe globe.
Absolutely, it would be a.
It would definitely be not agood situation for a long time.

(16:53):
Can you explain?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
that to me.
I just I don't understand.
So I totally understand that itwould have an impact, but I
don't understand the way thatyou do about the cloud coverage
and all of that creating Likewhat does a literal global
winter look like And how doeshow would that affect?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
how would it do it On an absolute smaller scale?
we just dealt with it a fewweeks ago.
I hearing myself say I gottastop that.
Stop it, chris.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I heard myself in the last one go ah, ah, ah, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't even know.
I'm doing it, there's so.
So we just recently, a fewweeks ago, had those wildfires
in Canada that affected ourskies, so everyone's focused on
breathing, not being able to see, and just not super blue skies,
and that's.
You know the sun's out, you cansee the sun's out, you can like
almost look at it, because it'sjust this little tiny dot in

(17:44):
the sky, but what happened isthe actual forecast to
temperature from models, fromour data would say like 75 and
the temperature was actuallylike 72.
Now, normally that's could berelatively normal.
It could just be a model beingoff by two degrees, three

(18:05):
degrees, but forecasted highswhen it comes to weather models
in 2023 on a normal summer daywith nothing outrageous to
forecast like crazy hurricane,low pressure system, where
there's a lot of variables goingon, just a normal summer day.
We're extremely good atpinpointing what that high
temperature is going to bewithin one to two degrees.
We're very good at it now.

(18:26):
So the fact that it was days ina row where you have a forecast
and then the temperature waslike three degrees off, but
always cooler, that's thesmaller scale showcasing what
happens when our sky isobstructed and how that actually
affects the ground temperatureeven in the middle of June.
That is the smallest scale.

(18:46):
A wildfire local to Canada andlike the tiniest little blip of
earth.
A super volcano likeYellowstone exploding would be
detriment.
It would be an enormous amountof ash and smoke that would go
up to the jet stream level uphigh in the sky And once it's up
there it just keeps spinningaround and it has to slowly
filter out and it can take don'tquote me on this as far as you

(19:10):
want to know the exact timeperiod, but we are talking
months to potentially years.
It would, yeah, no, it wouldaffect everything like crops.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
And you said we're always at threat, we're always
like in a we're in a constantthreat.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, i mean earth is a, is a living, breathing thing
down to its core, and it'salways moving.
The plates are always movingbecause the heat at the center
of the earth that we know asmuch as we know is that it's a
solid core with a lot, of, a lotof hot magma yeah, magma, magma
, all different levels of theearth and that creates all the
all the movement around earth.

(19:46):
So at any point, if just theright things happen, you know,
yellowstone could blow up Andmaybe it could be a year, it
could be a hundred years, couldbe a thousand years.
We have no idea.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
When it could blow up or how long it would take to
get our system back into When itcould, when it would blow up.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Like, but the global winter thing?
that would only be for.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
It depends on the severity of the explosion.
A.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yellowstone.
I'm all about a winter, but notif it's going to like you know
It wouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
it wouldn't be the winter you want.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
No.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
No, it would not be good.
It would.
I mean, we're talking, you'retalking about cloud cover all
the time, Like it doesn't goaway.
Yeah, It wouldn't be great, Itwould not.
There would be, there would behuge effects, Huge, Huge things.
I mean it affects the foodchain.

(20:38):
It would affect, you know,sunlight.
Sunlight needs to happen.
We need to get a certain amountthrough the.
The ecosystem depends on it.
So crops would die.
You know it would go.
We'd go through the whole spiel.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah.
So it's it's always possible.
It's not like an ice age.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
It could cause a mini ice age?
Absolutely No.
I don't know the parts.
I don't know if we fullyunderstand why, cause I mean the
last you know, quote unquotemini ice age was only a few
hundred years ago, so it's notlike you know glaciers Very
scary.
It's not like it's not like it'snot like you know, glaciers
were coming down to Texas, butthere was, you know,
temperatures were dramaticallyreduced for the whole year.

(21:15):
And it's it.
yeah, crazy Earth isinteresting.
It's we.
I love this topic and a, notnot like doomsday vibe, but more
of a.
I think humans, you know inmodern society, think we have so
much control.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, And we don't?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
We don't Like you know we, we, we are on this
earth and earth you know we're.
We're not running earth, earthruns itself and we just get to
live on it.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
And if she wants to show no mercy.
we're all gone.
We're all gone, That's it.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, i mean you could go through everything.
you know there could be a giantsolar flare or solar storm that
could wipe out, you know, allof our satellites and it would
totally disrupt because wedepend on them now for GPS, for
everything.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Did you see?
okay, so maybe I'm.
maybe this is like the samething There was something about
in the next 10 years, somethingwith something in space was
going to take away our internet,like globally.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
That would probably be it.
It would be a if you had amassive solar storm from our sun
, which is basically just anexplosion of solar energy that
sends it just comes spiralingdown towards earth And if it hit
if it hits correctly and youcould wipe out it would it would
fry the satellites that we havethere, which is, you know, not
but just the satellites and notus.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
We wouldn't perish It would just be us living without
our internet, which might bekind of a nice refresh, but not
for the podcast.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Not.
no, yeah, Number one priority.
this podcast would go down, Sothat's it.
That's, that's it.
No, it would it.
there's a lot more like supplychain would be an issue, because
everything runs on internet, soyou'd have no food in the
grocery stores, like it would be.
it would go down the line, itwould.
it would affect everything,because we'd have no electricity
, no way to pump gas.
No, you go through all of it.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
So we'd be living in Oregon trail again.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yes, Okay, there'd be a very short period of time,
and I know if something likethat happened, i know they have
basic preparations, to myknowledge, but it would take
months, to months, to years toto completely re up the electric
grid or you know, oursatellites, that cause we can't
just like we don't just havelike a million rockets standing
by that we can just like, boom,boom, boom, just start firing
back up satellites, get it allworking again.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
It would take time.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, this.
So you just you can't live infear of that, but it's just,
it's just knowing that you knowit could happen, Like, and
that's what is the what is thefear of leaving your house?

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Cause I'm pretty sure I have a minor case of that.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I don't know.
You get to ask, uh.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I think I've got a pandemic.
It like ruined me.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
It's.
I mean, yeah, we spent twoyears not telling, having people
tell us don't go outside and doall these things, so I don't
have it.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, i don't know.
I just feel like I'm not.
Uh, i used to be scared ofnothing And now I'm like, like
Chad always makes fun of mecause he's like bro, you always
think that if you go to like amovie, you're going to be like
in a shooting or something, butlike it's a very real it's, it's
real.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I know And we've kind of talked about this too We're
like there, especially when it'swhen there's been a few and you
, you're paying attention to itAnd you're like, wow, that's
that's frightening, that's thatcould you know.
Technically, it's whatever yourrisk management is, whatever
you would like to do and whatyou're comfortable with, um,
even you guys went to the TaylorSwift concert, do you know how

(24:32):
many people were just at themercy of some?
you know some crazy person whocould just show up and do
whatever they wanted to do.
I again it's like or, butwhat's the, what's the
alternative?
Just uh, it's that.
It's that balance right.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Hunker down on your house.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Hunker down, yeah but at the same time, it's a.
You know, if you're the kind ofperson that wants to go out and
see things, then it's a risk.
It's always a risk.
It just is if you.
But if you don't, if you onlystay inside your house and don't
do anything else, then you're,you're missing out on you know a
lot of cool things and greatthings.
So, but I understand beingcareful Like I would like my

(25:10):
line of careful is if it's aftermidnight, I really don't like
to be on the road becausenothing good happens.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Nothing good happens after midnight Exactly.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
So, uh, that's you know, that would be my rule of
thumb, that's.
but that's that's you knowcause?
it's not, that's not a worthyrisk for me.
It's like you know, I don't.
I'll just either stay where I'mat or it's a very short drive
home, um, but I don't like doingthat.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Me either.
Sorry, you're not boring me,okay.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
So boring, so boring.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
God, you, with all of your weather talk and knowing
things.
Hey, you asked.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I know I did You have to be very careful asking that
question.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
No, i mean honestly, like you, i feel like I, i
understand, whether I understand, whether patterns like way
better now that I'm friends withyou, because you, you like,
almost do this thing, where,like you say the words, but then
, like you, can you like youhumanize it for me, like I don't
want to say you dumb it downfor me, because I need that.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
But, that's like it's you make it a way that I can
understand it.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's lovely to hear , that's I mean it's because
I've been, i mean I've beentalking about it, and then I
tell people I tell people as ifI'm the one who's like really
smart, i'm like, yeah, go for itTake the credit.
Yeah, like I do tell.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I tell all of my brides and grooms to follow you,
for like wedding up to you andstuff I was going to say.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
your risk, though, is that when they come to you in
it with a quick question, likebro, it's going to happen, and
you're like, oh hold on, let meput in my magic, yeah.
There's a special app.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
I need Um all right, all right, let's dive in to
Weddakit.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Weddakit.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Um.
So, like I said before, um, webasically tried to do this And
since we have figured out alittle bit more of the
technicals of how to make thissound better for your ear holes,
we're just going to go throughthese again.
Um, i actually have more thistime because I was able to ask
my clients what kind of rulesthey had their wedding guests

(27:10):
break.
And some of them are prettyrude and some of them are kind
of like you know, i could seesome some brides and grooms
being like I don't really careabout that, it's not a really
big deal, um, and then some ofthem are like no, that could
hurt a friendship, you know.
So we just want to go over someof these with our listeners So

(27:30):
that bride's grooms, weddingcouples, have an idea of what BS
to expect from their weddingguests.
And then also, if you are evera guest at a wedding, um, maybe
listen back to this or thinkback to this so that you are not
one of the people who arecausing issues.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
So, number one good things to know.
Yeah, coming up.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
This is.
I think this is the mostimportant, and I'm going to
start with this one because Ifeel like this is.
I've seen reels, i've seenposts, i've seen the not wedding
wire, all of the biggestwedding magazines talking about
this, sending out invites andreceiving notes or something
back, asking if they have a plusone, when it was not made like

(28:12):
abundantly clear which, by theway, if there is nothing about a
plus one on your invite, thatis abundantly clear.
You don't have a plus one.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
They the, the individuals, the bride and groom
the family, whoever is planningthis, did not make a mistake
And forget to write your extraplus one.
So if you are a guest, askingif you can bring a plus one, the
answer is no, the answer is noYeah, and that is unbelievably

(28:44):
rude to ask that, because what aweird position to be putting
the bride and the groom in.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
What a weird position to be like.
No, we didn't forget to invitethem Five years ago.
I just don't want them there.
I would have felt weird andbeen like oh, i'm going to be
like.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
I would have felt weird and been like, oh, if I
was the groom and we got thatquestion, I would have.
I would have skated around theanswer.
Now.
I would have been like,actually, you, you, your
invitation was also a mistake.
You were uninvited.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yes For poking your invitation, just for that stupid
question For that stupidquestion.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, there's never, never, a time that you would
ever, ever do that.
There's no situation in whichyou would ask Oh, did you make
sure that I could actually bringthis extra person, that you
don't know that you have to pay80 hundred $150, $200 a plate?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's not a potluck, it's not something where you are
.
Also, you know, somebody had topay for the plates and if they,
if you weren't invited, if yoursignificant other wasn't
invited, so so what we did forour wedding was if you weren't
married, you didn't get a plusone.
It was cut and dried, just likethat.
If you were not married tosomeone, you didn't get a plus
one, and I feel, like mostbrides and grooms and wedding

(29:52):
couples, that's like the rule ofthumb that they follow.
Do you see that differently orno?

Speaker 2 (29:59):
No, I don't see that differently.
Yeah, That's yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Unless it's somebody that they've been dating for,
like, like, almost like commonlaw marriage worthy, you know,
like if they've been dating foryears and years and years and
they are the pair like, forexample, my mom and my stepdad
have been together for geezsince I was like three years old
And technically they'refiancees but they're not married
, you know.
But Dan doesn't go anywherewithout Sue and vice versa, Like

(30:24):
that's always.
But they've been together, Theyhave a kid together.
That's a package deal, So I'mgonna take it a step further.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Take it a step further.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I want to hear Assuming that your children and
your babies are invited tosomeone's wedding.
I don't care how close they areto you.
I don't care if this is yourbest friend and you just had a
baby.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
No, there's no assumption.
There's no assumption.
The only that would be the one,the one special case in my mind
that if you could, if it's ayoung child and you got invited
but not your child and you can't, you don't either don't want to
leave them for whatever reason,or you can't find some.

(31:05):
You know you're not gonna beable to find somebody to watch
them.
Whatever the case, doublechecking with the bride and
groom saying like hey, you knowI want to come to your wedding,
but I just personally I'm notgoing to be able to not leave my
child, or or whatnot.
That is the only scenario in mymind that this is okay to
double.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
See, i don't even, i don't even really think, i think
for me I would rather someonesay you know, we can't find
child care, we can't, whateverright, so we're gonna, we're
gonna have to say no, unlessthat's okay with you, like going

(31:43):
into it and being like you know, you need to understand when
someone doesn't want a baby,especially a newborn baby.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Like that's a lot.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I would go to us, i would, i would go to say that
and the bride and groom couldsay that, and that you, as the
person with the child, would beunderstanding of that.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
You just wanted to let them know.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I'm not saying no because I just don't want to go.
I'm just saying no becausethese are the circumstances and
you're not having children.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Right and give the bride and groom the opportunity
to say oh well, you know, it'sactually okay if you were to
bring your baby, but if they sayno, then that's you're out.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Absolutely.
If you are a grown ass adultasking if you can bring another
grown ass adult that was notinvited to me.
There's very, very few times inthis podcast that I'm that
aggressive with this.
But you're trash.
That's a trash statement.
I'm sorry.
I wasn't gonna go that far, butOh, i feel strongly about this.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
No, you're not.
That's so rude.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Did you have somebody do that at your wedding?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
No, but I wish they did so.
I could have told them no, youcan't come, that's it because No
it's.
But yeah, no, that's commonsense, that's common sense.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's where I would draw that.
We had people ask.
But as soon as I said there's35 people invited, as soon as I
said that, it was like okay, wetotally get it.
It wasn't even like there wasno pushback, it was just kind of
like, well, would it be okay?
And it's like nope, we have 35spots and you're lucky to have

(33:22):
gotten one of them.
We didn't say it like that,obviously, but like yeah, no,
we're not making an extra spaceat the table for this person
that we barely know.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, no, And I say No no, no, i was gonna say I
feel comfortable, confident insaying you're trash, because I
know what it's like to be thebride in groom.
Or if you are hosting a bigevent and to have someone work,
i'm putting myself in thatposition.
There is already so much stressgoing on, especially at that
stage of the game, to make sureeverything's lined up, to have

(33:51):
somebody ask you to bringsomebody else, that's that yeah,
without me just saying likewell, no, that's, they were not
invited and they're not part ofthis family or our friend group,
like get out of here.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's not good, nope, okay, do you
want to do one or do you want meto keep going?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Sure, i'll do one.
So okay, let me pull this up,let's see.
So for me, no complaining ingeneral about someone's wedding.
That's a very it's a very goodthat's so tacky and I know
that's a, i know that that's athing, that, especially after

(34:32):
you've been to a lot of weddings, there's this I don't know why
there's this human nature tocompare other weddings and
openly talk about it.
If you want to openly talkabout it and gossip, do not, do
not do it in that room or thereception or the ceremony or
within miles of that weddingthat is currently actively

(34:53):
happening.
If you want to do it in theprivacy of your own home with
your close friends and gossip,which is argumentatively rude
anyway, because, again, knowinghow many decisions and how much
it takes to put together awedding, and it wasn't yours and
you were invited and you gotfree food and probably free
drinks, so suck it up.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
So I feel strongly about this, but anyway, no, i
feel very strongly about thisone too.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
You wouldn't.
You wouldn't be at someone'spublic presentation like
whispering to the person man,this guy sucks like and just
like some people would.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Generally, you're right, some people would we
don't want them at the weddingwe don't want them at the
wedding.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
So that's that's the point.
That is it just?
if I was the any of theindividuals like the you know,
the parents, the actual brideand groom and overheard this, be
devastated?
it would just be like, well,you know, screw you that's not
good.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I can I give an example?
I only invited so many people.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Oh yeah, one example okay at our wedding.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Listen, our wedding was low-key, like low-key.
We were saving money whereverwe could like it was.
It was about the wedding.
It was about the marriage, notthe wedding for us.
Right?
we had plastic utensils for ourour guests and they were.
They were like modern, you knowthe modern black, whatever.
But we there were complaintsabout the plastic utensils,

(36:16):
there were complaints abouthaving to get up and go serve
yourselves and you know itwasn't like buffet style but you
still had to go and get thethings that you wanted, kind of.
I don't really know if it's itwas technically buffet style.
Do you hear nilly sleeping andhaving a dream right now, nilly,
now's.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's okay, baby, please stop it's very, very,
very, very okay.
Okay, i just want to make sureit wasn't like ruining it.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Um, yeah, there were certain guests that had things
to say about, um, having toserve themselves and plastic
utensils.
And I did overhear it at my ownwedding and I was just like,
wow, you know, i almost wishthat I didn't even have you here
right now.
And that's exactly what theresponse will be.

(37:03):
If you are the one who'scomplaining and the bride and
the groom or the wedding couplehear you, it's like how
ungrateful are you, especiallyfor an intimate wedding where
you're one of the very few thatare invited?
like what are you doing?
you?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
were selected as a, as an individual person.
Whether it was, it doesn'tmatter.
If it was like extended familyco-worker, whatever the word,
you still were selected for themto pay for your spot at said
wedding.
Don't do that.
Don't do.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
It is so oh god damn rude.
So and and my relationship withthe people that I over like
that I basically overheardsaying things like that I like
it's not as strong as it was andI know it's something so petty
and it's it's little, but it'slike for you to even be with us
on one of the happiest days ofour lives and make comments like

(37:54):
that it's.
We didn't ask you to pay forutensils.
We didn't ask you what youropinion was on serving
yourselves.
Like you, you don't really getan opinion in that case, because
we're the ones who threw thisparty and are getting married
you know, yeah yeah, all right,really from you.
All right, photo taking.
There are a few parts of this.

(38:15):
One As guests.
One if you are taking photos.
First of all, if you're askednot to take photos during the
ceremony, just don't.
There's no bending those rules.
There's no.
Oh well, so and so from faraway, and blah, blah, blah.
There's no bending those rulesunless you have talked to the
bride and the groom beforehandand made sure.

(38:35):
And if the bride and the groomdidn't give you specific
permission to do that, do notbend the rules, do not take
photos.
Number two is if you are takingphotos during the ceremony and
there isn't blatantly a rule ofdo not take photos, then what
you need to do is not be in themiddle of the aisle.

(38:58):
You need to not.
If you are sitting in themiddle of the aisle with your
phone out like this, that's whatthe photographer sees, that's
what the bride and the groom see, that's what everybody sees.
So if you want to be the personwho is taking photos of the
ceremony, you need to sit in thecrowd, not in the aisle, so

(39:18):
that your phone is not front andcenter right there.
So then we go into cake cuttingreception.
Just stay out of thephotographer's way, just for the
love of God, just stay out ofthe photographer's way.
Your phone is not going to dothis event justice.

(39:42):
Your bride and your groom andyour wedding couple has chosen
somebody to capture this day ina very specific way and holding
up an iPad during the firstdance.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Oh, that one hurts, it's not going to do it.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
It's not going to do it.
Similar to cake cutting Do not,do not.
If you see the photographer istaking photos of the bride and
the groom or the wedding coupleand you get behind to the.
Basically, if you're taking aphoto where your photographer is
in your photo at all, you cansafely assume you will also be

(40:17):
in the photographer's photo.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
That means you're also too close to be recorded.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Way too close.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Come on, if I have to like the example on this one is
always the first dance.
First dance is the amount ofroom that we get Actually, let's
not even talk about room Theamount of time that we get to
make sure to grab a variety ofphotos that they're going to
treasure, because that isusually one that is a hot moment

(40:45):
to grab photos for, and I wantto try and get the, honestly, a
combination of you want up down,different angles, wide, close,
and then usually I'm adding in afew kicker lights to give some
kind of you know just thatspotlight presentation.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
All the while, the bride and the groom feels super
uncomfortable.
So they've cut the song in half, so you don't even have the
full three minutes You have likea minute and 15 seconds Exactly
.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
There are so many of these that I've done that.
There is a to the point nowwhere I always ask, like you
know, where the band are youcutting it early?
How much time do I have to?

Speaker 1 (41:17):
do this.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
And it's yeah.
There's been a few where I'vehad 30 to 45 seconds because
they just don't like being ondisplay And I understand that.
But I would go to guess thatthey still feel pretty
devastated if I didn't get agood photo of that, Even with me
saying and understanding likethat's not a lot of time to do
it.
So if Brooke or I or any otherwedding photographer have to get

(41:38):
around you or ask you to moveand you're holding camera up and
you're in the way is sofrustrating.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
It is so frustrating because I'm most trying to do
our job and to do our job, andalso if you're holding up a
camera and a photographer taps,you don't, don't what?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
to do?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Put away your camera, or at least move out of the way
Like that's, that's not whatwe're going to do, that's just
their initial response.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I get that, but yeah, that's yeah, and I I'm very
careful about this now becausethis was really this was a
really big topic.
when you know, phones havephones with cameras.
I haven't been around that longwhere, like you know,
everybody's had them.
We're talking in the past, noteven 20 years.
We're talking 15 maybe.

(42:24):
So I think in the first half ofthat this was really strong
subject because we had never hadto deal with that before.
No wedding photographer had hadto deal with it.
I just say that carefully.
People probably still broughtcameras and such, but not
everyone has a cell phone thatthey could easily just like
video record.
That was the difference.
So I understand the concept ofstill wanting to do it, but are

(42:49):
you actually going to look atthat video?
What?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
are you doing?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
with that video.
Okay.
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