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July 18, 2023 • 30 mins

Remember the first time you visited your childhood home after moving out? The flood of nostalgia, the bittersweet emotions, and the realization that things can never be the same again? This episode explores the emotional weight of nostalgia, especially when it involves visiting loved ones and cherished places filled with memories. We share personal stories of dealing with the sentimental turmoil when saying goodbye to places that once held a special place in our hearts.

Imagine being a Type A person in a world that seems to revolve around Type B attitudes. We share our experiences and discuss how personality types influence how we manage our schedules, especially in high-stress situations. With anecdotes from our professional lives as wedding photographers, we elucidate how we handle the multitude of emotions and expectations that come with planning a wedding. At the end of the day, it's all about finding a balance and creating organized platforms to keep our sanity intact.

Photographs, a beautiful way of remembering our life stories - the joys, the sorrows, the choices our loved ones made, and the places we've been. As we wrap up this intimate conversation, we reflect on the importance of capturing memories from special places, despite knowing that these memories may not be revisited in the same way ever again. Nonetheless, we believe in the power of photos as they serve as a poignant reminder of the past and a form of acceptance of the chapters that have ended.

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Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're gonna hear us talk about this every week,
because every week we forget weboth go.
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
It's like it's just a podcast.
Yeah, how was your weekend?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Weekend was great.
It was a less, less busyweekend Compared to the past.
I'd say month, month and a half.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, you've had a pretty, a pretty like Crazy ride
, I feel yeah, it's, it's, Imean I.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's so funny because last year last year for the
wedding photographers we and alot of photographers will go to
say not even just weddings wasthe the last year of the COVID
Explosion, reschedule.
So last June I was hopping allover the place doing all
weddings, just you know, everyweekend, but not just every
weekend like Friday, saturday,sunday and three triple headers

(00:58):
to double headers, new Jersey,rhode Island, massachusetts, was
driving around in one weekendstaying in hotels, just to, you
know, charge the batteries, getover the card set, said I would
never do a June like that again.
Only I loved my couples and myweddings and I I'm so happy that
I have those opportunitiesNever complained about too much
work.
But if there is too much workand I can make a, a adjustment

(01:21):
to my schedule so that mywork-life balance is better, I
Will work on that and I said,this year I was gonna work on it
and this June was technicallyless weddings, but I filled it
with other things.
Just crazy.
It's all good, it's all good.
So well, those two years.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I said basically, like the, our schedules didn't
choose us or no, we didn'tchoose our schedules, our
schedules chose us for those twoyears because we literally just
had to accept whateverReschedule date the venues had.
Like the brides and grooms had,it was, it was nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I had a wedding up in Think I had a wedding in
Vermont, and two days later ornot two days later, I think it
was the next day I had one inlike Rhode Island and I was like
, okay, I just kind of have tosuck it up and do it.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, that was.
That was the epitome of allthose reschedules and just the,
the cramming of work, because atthat time you didn't know still
know what the world was gonnabe like.
So it was like well, if this isthe day that works for you,
like Yep, this is what we'regonna really have another joy.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I don't have a choice .

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Let's do it, and then I I remember saying it loud
We'll deal with the stress later, because I know it's coming.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, and, and it was , oh, and it did.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
So tell me about your weekend.
Was yours like?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
mine was good.
So I I know that we've chatteda little bit about this, but I
took a little bit of a a lessHactic wedding season so that I
was able to take some more timefor me, for my mental health,
all of those things, and I'mfinding that I have been booking
a lot of sessions that requiredjust a little bit of travel,
but I'm able to, like, basicallyadd my family members to my

(02:59):
route.
So I get to, you know, go andsee my grandmother.
I just told you the other weekI went to Cape Cod with Chad for
another family session for mycousin, and so this weekend I
went up to Vermont and I visitedmy grandmother at her cabin,
and Right after that I poppedover to South Burlington where
some of my clients fromConnecticut actually just moved.

(03:20):
So they reached out to me inJanuary when my books were open
and they were like I know it's along shot because we're so far
away, but you know we'd love tocontinue our journey with you
and I think you said that yourgrandma has a cabin up there, so
I was able to just book both ofthose or book that in the same
weekend as going to see mygrandma.
So hey, um, yeah, and I don't,I don't get to visit her too too

(03:41):
much.
I feel like We'll talk about ita little bit more on the
podcast.
But I feel like there's a lotthat comes with visiting my
grandmother up at that cabinthat I do love so much.
There's a lot of emotion thatis tied in with that, and so
sometimes I feel like I reallywant to go visit.

(04:01):
However, the emotional I don'tknow, I want to say distress
that I kind of have when I leaveis a totally different.
Like I find myself feeling soguilty because I'm like she's up
there, she's alone, I want togo visit her, but there have
been some things like mygrandfather passing, that just
makes the house not feel thesame way that it used to.

(04:23):
And I don't know if we'vetalked about this, but like I
have a serious issue withnostalgia, like a serious if I
think about it too much and Ithink about the way in which,
like my siblings will never liveunder the same roof and you
know we've lost so many peoplewithin my family.
Oh, I could make myself throwup if I think about it long
enough.
No, seriously, and it's funnybecause I keep getting these

(04:45):
messages from my brides and mygrooms and these families that I
have that kind of make me feellike I'm not the only one.
I'm talking with my hand a lotand I can't see it out of the
camera.
But yeah, so I had a little bitof that like nostalgia.
I took some photos of the cabin.

(05:05):
Some of you know I was kind oftrying to capture my grandma's
aura in, like the textures ofthe cabin and things like that.
So it was a really good weekend.
But it's funny I was telling myclients like I left with just
enough time to get to my clients, or so I thought.
And then I plugged it into myGPS and I was in the car and I'm
all like teary because I justsaid goodbye to my grandma and

(05:26):
it says that it would take ahalf hour or less and I was like
, do I go back in?
And then I'm like I look atmyself in the mirror and I'm
like in tears.
I'm like no, I'm just gonna golike this would be bad for both
of us.
So I just ended up leaving alittle bit, a little bit early
and arriving early, which wasgood because it took their
little girl a little bit to warmup to me.

(05:46):
But but yeah, no, it was a goodweekend.
There was just a lot of emotioninvolved.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
So I saw some of those photos and obviously you
did a good job of capturing,kind of, some of that vibe that
you were just describing,because I believe I messaged you
and was like oh wow this is acool house, yeah it's a cool
house, so you did really wellwith the photos.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, thank you.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, absolutely.
And it was yeah, it has a yeah.
I felt to be completely honest.
If it reminded me even though Iknow I was trying to figure it
out it reminded me of your home.
It really did.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, so it's so funny, like when we, when we saw
well, a little bit of backstorymy grandparents built their
cabin.
They bought that property inthe 80s and they built it from
the ground up and there was likea trailer that was on the
property that everybody would goup and stay in while they were
trying to build.
And so I have all of theseamazing memories going up and
staying in that trailer andhaving the house.

(06:39):
Actually, there's one memoryspecifically I went up with my
grandfather, my grandpa Pete,and right before we went he went
to his friend and he was like I, you know, I want I don't even
know why he did this, but hebasically grabbed two chickens,
like little chicks, and he waslike these are yours for the
week.
Take care of them, you know.
So we go up to Vermont, we'restaying in this little trailer,

(07:01):
these two little chicks runningaround, and as he was trying to
get the plumbing done in theactual cabin, I'm running around
and like it's basically like anunfinished foundation, kind of
like I just had the bones butthere was an upstairs and it had
all the piping and all theholes and all of that.
So I'm running around upstairswith my two little chicks and

(07:22):
they run in opposite directionsand I chased one and the other
one they're putting in theplumbing downstairs and the
other one I just see it go rightover the hole ago and it fell
right through the hole wherethey were trying to do the
plumbing and my grandfathercaught it and brought it up.
So I was like my face was likeoh what, I thought I lost it

(07:44):
forever.
But I guess they were just, youknow, installing that pipe.
So the chicken just went rightdown that pipe and my
grandfather caught it andbrought it up and was like, hey,
I think his name should belucky.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, absolutely so yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
so they built that house from the ground up.
I have so many amazing memoriesin that property and it's funny
because when my realtor he usedto call the homes that he would
pick out for me Brooke BradyHomes because he always said
that they were super quirky hewas like I know none of my other
clients would be like intothese homes.
I don't know if that's acompliment, but he was like the

(08:21):
homes that you choose generallyto look at are kind of weird,
like they have a little bit of aquirk to them.
So when he picked this houseout, I remember feeling like
from the listing photos I waslike yeah, this one's a little
too weird for me.
I think like I don't reallyknow.
You know, like it kind of lookslike a brick breaking home I'm
not really sure.
And then Chad and I we decidedto look at this house because we

(08:43):
just kept losing every singlebit.
We just kept.
I mean it was terrible.
It was in 2020.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, so it was awful .
I felt terrible for anybodyhaving to deal with that,
because if you didn't haveseemingly, if you just didn't
have, you know enormous amountsof cash to just throw at a you
know a home which most people donot, then you were out of luck.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Your shit out of luck .

Speaker 2 (09:05):
So I saw this house and I was like this is a really
nice house, but it's out of mybudget, it's, you know, not even
in the area that I was lookingin.
I just I don't really know.
And then finally we just werelike, all right, let's just go
take a peek at it.
And I think I honestly onlythink that this wasn't snatched
up quicker, because they droppedthe actual location of this

(09:26):
house in a totally differenttown.
So I think people got confusedwhen they tried to drive by and
look at it because it wasn'twhere it was dropped on like
Zillow, but anyway.
So we came to look at the houseand Chad left early to come and
look at the house with us, andthe second Chad and I stepped on
this property.
It was like this is meant to be, kind of, and I was like this,

(09:49):
like even walking in and therewere older people that were
living here before, but evenwalking in I was like it smells
like my grandparents' house inVermont and he was like no way
it smells like my grandparents'house in New Hampshire.
So he also had these memoriestied to a cabin and, long story
short, like most of what we fellin love with here reminded us

(10:10):
of our favorite places inVermont and New Hampshire, and
so we were kind of like allright.
And then I saw the backyard andI was like well, if things keep
going well, do you want to getmarried back here?
Like can you see us doing that?
And he was like I was literallythinking the same thing.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
So, oh, that's nice, that's real nice.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah.
So I mean fast forward now.
We've already had our weddinghere.
We kind of have done ourprojects.
But yeah, a lot of the reasonwhy we chose this house was
because it reminded me so muchof that cabin in Vermont.
So it's bittersweet, though,because we lost my grandfather
in late 2015.
And he was kind of the rockthat held that place together.

(10:49):
He you know my grandma has areally hard time taking care of
it alone.
So when I say that I'm leavingand crying it kind of, I just
feel guilty.
I feel like emotionally, it's alot for me to go and visit, but
at the same time, when I go upthere and I'm spending time with
her and I remember how much Ilove the house and the property
and I love being there, but it'slike pulling away, feels just

(11:13):
so like heart wrenching.
I called my mom on the way home.
I'm like mom, this is why Idon't go up here.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Understandable I mean yeah you've got, so nostalgia
for you is just a pulls on yourheartstrings, those nostalgia
things yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Because I feel like it's not without, without my
grandpa Pete there.
It's not the way it's supposedto be.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
It's just it doesn't, and going down into his man
cave he had like this awesomeman cave and you know so
bringing things down to therefrigerator down there for her.
It's like I walk in and I'm like, oh, grandpa, you know, like
this wasn't the way it wassupposed to be.
So it kind of leads into alittle bit about what I want to
talk about today, and that is welean so heavily on real moments

(11:57):
and photographing your peopleand you know I've I know that
I've said before on this podcastlike I've had brides and grooms
lose their people and I'm justso honored and grateful to be
photographing them.
But similarly, your favoriteplaces should be somewhere that
you also photograph.
So I know I talk a lot about inhome sessions and clients

(12:18):
sometimes want to move away fromthose in home sessions because
they're like my house isn't thepicture perfect magazine photo,
like it's never going to looklike that.
And to me I mean the photosthat I shared on on Instagram of
my grand like, of my grandma'scabin.
Nothing about that is pictureperfect, but it's perfect to me
because that's where my grandmais, you know.
So, if it's okay with you, Iwant to talk today about, you

(12:41):
know, the importance ofphotographing your favorite
places.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Nope, it's not okay with me Moving on.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Do you have a place that, like you, no longer can
visit, but you it like when youthink about that place, it in
captures either a childhoodmemory or something like that
where, if you think about it, oris this like a I don't want to
gender it, but is this like awoman versus man thing where,
like, the nostalgia kills me,where, like you know, sometimes

(13:10):
guys are like they have athought and it's like well bye,
oh pooh.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Done Moving on, yeah, short term.
So on that, my unfortunately myshort term memory is absolutely
terrible.
That's a separate side note.
The amount of times I say whatwas I just doing.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Oh, the amount of times you you message me and
you're like oh, by the way, Ican't talk to you on Tuesday.
I'm like, dude, you alreadytold me it's going to be Monday.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, brooke has unfortunately dealt with.
She has learned very quicklyabout what it means to really
work with like a type B person.
So I'm working on it, brooke.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
It's a but here's the thing about type B people.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Is that we're for?
The most part, usually likecalm, carefree, just like you
want to.
You want to like chill out andhave a nice conversation where
your people will get you there,will help you listen.
We'll do all that.
When it comes to rememberingwhere my keys are, my coffee,
remembering scheduled dates,always unless I have a someone
to tell me or an organizedplatform.

(14:08):
So for weddings, obviously, Ihave an organized platform that
tells me that we're good, butwhen it comes, to.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
and I just want to say, most of the time when Chris
is like oh, by the way, I thinkI double, he didn't he's.
He's messaging me preemptivelybecause he thinks he messed up
before he did, but he actuallydidn't and he's already prepped
me for the right date.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
It's the firing of the brain, like it's
unfortunately.
It's the reactive method, likeit just comes to my thought and
I'm like, oh crap, I didn'tmessage Brooke in this date and
we need to do this and it'salready been not only conversed
between me and her, but it's onthe calendar.
It's confirmed, yeah, so thesmart thing to do would be like
no, dude, you're good, Look atthe things that we said we
agreed to share, like a calendar, and make sure that I, before I

(14:49):
messaged her in a panic thatit's there, and then I just so
the amount of messages thatBrooke has that just says, oh,
never mind, it's just like it'sso funny.
So back to what you you know,the main topic here.
Yeah, I do have places thatthey, they instill memories real
quick and you have to and it'sit's, you know, childhood years,

(15:12):
childhood years.
Man, it's crazy how when youget older, those the age between
, like I don't know, when youstart remembering, like five
years old, when you start yourmemories really start kind of
coming, coming together that youcan pull back to sort of like
five, six, isn't that nuts?

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, it is Five years old.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
There's years that go by that you just don't, you're
not going to remember so, buteven still five years old to you
know, through high school,maybe college, those you know to
22, 23, 24, those those yearsare.
So you're a sponge, you know.
You just like absorb all thatand then that turns into
nostalgia for you, whatever wasgoing on at that time period.
So for me, you know, some ofthose locations would be, like

(15:53):
you know, my grandfather's housein North Carolina, which was
just sold recently.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
So that's it's not going to be anymore.
I was going to ask if you stillhave access to it.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, because, yeah, they both have my grandma and
grandpa and my mom's side haveboth passed away.
So that house they, my mom andher brother, they it's sold.
So that's, that's gone.
It was just, it's so far away.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
So we're in the Smoky Mountains and we have obviously
, I don't have any family outthere other than that, so that
was like a very, very uniquelocation that you have early
memories of.
So it's, it's, it's it'sgrandpa's house.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
It's grandpa's house, yeah, and I had you know it.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
You know it has a certain smell to it.
It's just like and it was verylike.
I don't know what the type ofwood it was, but the house was
very had a very certain.
I wish I could remember whatthe wood is.
It's a certain type of woodsmell and it was like it didn't
smell anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Rich, Rich Mahogany.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Rich Mahogany.
Yeah, what's that from?
This is a movie.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Anker man?
I'm pretty sure Anker.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Man, there's a few other locations, like probably
you know where I went to schoolfor meteorology, westconn.
I won't walk back into thedorms, but that's.
You know those locations.
Anywhere there's where themajor life events happened,
where you spent a lot of time.
You walk back into it and youcan't go there anymore, or you
just you just don't.

(17:04):
It's very odd.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Or when you go back, it's different.
Yeah.
And another thing is likeselling your childhood home or
having you know the the.
The weird thing is that youknow if this house was tied to
your grandpa in some way, foryou, for your memory, and then
let's say that an aunt or anuncle was like no, no, no, I
think I'm going to, I'm going totake over that house and I
think I'm going to update it andI'm going to make it a place

(17:26):
where everybody can come.
Now it no longer has the samefeel that it did when your
grandfather was there.
So it's like what hurts worseNever being able to, never being
able to go back, or being ableto go back, but having an
entirely different feel when yougo back, so it doesn't feel
like your favorite place anymore.
You know, it's like it's kindof teetering on that edge of
like would you rather just saygoodbye to that place and not

(17:48):
have access to it anymore, orwould you rather have it?
But now somebody else has takenover and it no longer feels
like your favorite people inthat space.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's a good question.
I don't know if I have ananswer to that right now.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
That's a if I do give you an answer?

Speaker 1 (18:03):
it is nuts.
It's nuts how we.
There are certain things likevision of memories and smell.
Those are the two that tie toyour, to your long term memories
really well.
I know, I know, specifically,smell is like that's a.
I feel weird too, because I'vesaid the word smell like five
times.
But that's, that is a thing,right, that's a scientific thing
that tied very directly to longterm memory.

(18:23):
So let's talk about thelocations and what you want to,
you know, discuss on that.
So are we talking in the worldof photography?
That's where we're going tokind of shift this into, and
you're talking about yourgrandma's house and it's not the
most picture perfect location,but it is for you, right?

(18:45):
So that's the whole point ofthis podcast was realism and
getting away from being solocked down to and what we, so
many people, do it.
We do it every day with ourphone cameras, where we're
looking for some like ridiculousspot or something to look a
certain way to post and you'relike you have to step out of
your shell and ask why?
Why am I taking this photo?
Why do I care about the exactenvironment?

(19:06):
Because I just wanted to lookgood in the photo, or because
it's actually capturing themoment and the memory.
Right, you shouldn't care whatother people view it as, because
they're, it's not for them.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
No, no, and that's so .
You know, like I was postingthese photos and to someone.
You know somebody might look atthe photo of the lamp with the
lime green walls and be likedude, you know, like what is
that to me, though?
Like my grandma's quirky style,is a lot of like.
Where I get my inspiration,kind of it's, it's when I look

(19:41):
at that house.
It's not a house, it is mygrandparents like entirely, and
I can understand why mygrandmother has taken so long
trying to sell that house,because she looks around and she
sees all of the projects thather and her husband did together
.
She sees the memories that aretied to each wall.
If something isn't tiled, justright, you know it's like oh, I

(20:03):
remember when we tried to dothat but it didn't.
You know, it didn't quite go goin.
And then I started thinkingabout it.
I'm like I think a lot morepeople than we realized deal
with this nostalgia on theirfavorite places, and One of the
things that I started thinkingabout was I had a bride reach
out to me recently.
Actually, no, she postedsomething was like has anybody

(20:26):
else's parents sold theirchildhood home?
How did you deal with it?
Like what?
Because she's just reallystruggling with the fact that
she's never gonna be able to gohome.
She's never gonna be able to gohome for Christmas.
And yeah, it sounds so harshwhen I'm saying it, but I've
gone through the same things.
My mom doesn't have mychildhood home anymore.
My dad passed away.
I don't have access to thathome anymore.

(20:47):
So you know, after mygrandfather passed away, we
still have this home.
It's like it's almost like thecatch-22 of like there are
places that I can go and I nolonger visit anymore because
they don't Feel quite rightwithout those people, and then
there are some homes that arejust Completely ghosts to me,
where I don't have access tothat anymore, and now it's only
a memory.
So this bride that I wastalking to her name is actually

(21:11):
Brooke too.
She's really cool.
We were talking about it and Istarted to realize like you have
to say something goodbye tosomething, to everything at some
point.
Like you have to say goodbye toeverything, I mean and in going
into a little bit of like amorbid positioning, I guess is
like Nothing in this entireworld lasts forever.

(21:33):
One.
You or your significant otheris going to have to say goodbye
to the other one first.
That's just, that's how it'sgonna happen, like if you guys
live together until you pass,one of you will have to say
goodbye to the other one.
You might have to say goodbyeto your parents before you say
goodbye to your childhood home.
And that's really hard andhaving to deal with that.

(21:54):
So some of me was like when shewas talking to me, I'm like how
beautiful would it be forpeople who are moving or losing
their childhood homes and thingslike that to hire a
photographer to catch those lastMoments in there, because now
you're saying goodbye to thathome as a whole.
You're not saying goodbye to itwhen you know Mom or dad have
passed away and now you have togo through it all on your own.

(22:14):
You get to pack up this housewith your parents.
You get to see them move intotheir next stage of life.
So there's so much um,variation and all of the way in
which I Guess we Do.
You know what I'm trying to say.
Like you can either say goodbyeto your family home with your

(22:36):
parents, understanding thatthey're it's bittersweet, but
they're also happy to saygoodbye to it, or you can say
goodbye to your parents first,and which is not ever ideal and
having to take care of thathouse, but then that house is
almost has like tainted memoriesof Having to do that alone and
not having your parents to packit up.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, because your brain is focusing on the what,
if, what, what could have been?
That's what you're focusing on.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, so now your childhood home is tainted with
that memory of well, dad wasn'tsupposed to go before that home
was supposed to go.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yep, you know and that's a that's a.
That's a tough struggle.
There's, and there's, no easyanswer to that.
There's no way to handle thatother than that's, I think, case
by case basis right.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
But the point of the I mean the point of that entire
rant, I guess is just that we'reall gonna have to say goodbye
to Someone, something, ourfavorite places nothing, nothing
lasts forever.
It just won't.
And so for me, when I say Iwant to photograph you as you
are today, I mean even theclient they've been.
The clients that I met inVermont.
You know, I photographed themin their apartment in New Haven

(23:44):
and then I went up and Iphotographed them in Vermont and
they, they said, basicallybefore I came, like we don't
really know if an in-homesession is like what we want to
do, and I said, well, why don'twe split it in half and we'll do
half in-home and we'll do half,you know, at a field close by,
or something like that.
Because to me it really isimportant to capture you where
you landed in Vermont, and it'sso funny, like walking into

(24:06):
their house.
I almost felt like they neverbelonged in New Haven, like
people hung to Vermont the wholetime.
But having that, those photos ofthe New Haven apartment, those
memories, and now Transitioninginto the next portion of their
lives, I feel like it's easierto say goodbye when you've been
photographed in your favoriteplace.
So if that favorite placehappens to be an apartment in

(24:28):
New Haven that may or may not beunpacked, why not have those
photos?
If you're packing up with yourparents and you're trying to say
goodbye to some of yourfavorite places or, you know,
your childhood home, why nothire a photographer to come and
capture some of those moments asyou're going through the
memories, as You're packing upthe boxes and you pick up the,
the drawings and all of that,which it's a very niche session

(24:53):
to have, like a packing up yourchildhood home session.
But If that's the way that youall get to say goodbye and you
get to relive that moment witheach other, I'm almost like why
not do a moving session?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
It's, it's you're providing.
So what you're the mindset onthis use case is you are
Removing entirely the concept of.
I want to say I'm not tangible.
I want to say it's the word forlike, just stuff, extra stuff.

(25:31):
What's the word I'm looking for?
It's like, it's not even goods,it's a oh, I can't think of the
word.
But you're removing the conceptof something that is simply for
visual appeal.
You're removing that conceptentirely, which is what social
media has turned into a verytoxic, picture perfect location

(25:58):
for everyone feeling the need tobe the same and wanting to
quote, unquote, level up, whichin turn, means to just make it
pretty visually appealing.
But when there's no soul behindit, what is it?
It's an empty shell ofsomething that a million other
people are doing, which also isjust.
It's just stuff.
It has no meaning to it.

(26:21):
It kind of coincides with theconcept of people afraid of AI
art and just typing in somethingand getting a picture, and
there are a lot of artists thatare like, oh my God, it's gonna
take my job and it's like.
If you are in that mindset, Ithink, say this carefully you
are leaning into something thatyou've forgotten.

(26:41):
The whole background andconcept of art is essentially
the human emotion Put into thephoto, whether that's a
portraiture or a location,something tied to it that hits
some kind of emotion somewhere.
You can't get that from AI artbecause it didn't happen.
But in this case you areremoving the concept of visual

(27:04):
appeal entirely and tellingpeople that this photo shoot
could be something worth itbecause they're gonna walk away
with photos 10, 20, 30 years,look back and be pretty happy
that they had those photos.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Almost like.
Do you remember?
It's like an album of like.
Do you remember when we saidgoodbye to mom and dad's house?
Yeah, yeah.
And how lucky are you to beable to say goodbye?
I know it's hard on alldifferent like I'm not saying
like so lucky, but like we couldonly be so lucky to say goodbye
to our favorite places, whilewe still have all of our

(27:36):
favorite people.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, you know it's kind of weird to think about
that.
There are certain locations andplaces that isn't it weird that
it was like you walked in itthe last time and then that's
the last time you were there,but you weren't thinking of it
at that time.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
No, so weird, so weird like.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
On a lighter note, it's kind of it's like the
concept of like the last timethat you listened to a CD in
your car, like there was one daythat that was the last time you
heard a CD.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
There's one CD that stayed in that CD player, you
know.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
It never, it never left.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
It never left, and it's weird to think about those
things that there was.
You used to do that thing allthe time and there was one more
time, so wouldn't it be cool tohave photos of that last time
that you could look back on?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Right, the last time you were jamming out to that
specific CD, that specific song,you know, and it's and I'm not
even saying necessarily that youneed to even have a
photographer to hire to do thisthing.
I'm saying, if you take youriPhone and you just try to
capture every nook and cranny Imean I was taking photos of,
like I mean I just I freakmyself out and think that every

(28:44):
place I go now is gonna be thelast time I step on it, because
I'm just an idiot, but because Iget so scared, I'm like oh, and
then, driving away from mygrandma's house, I'm crying, I'm
like, oh, but I was even tryingto take photos of the things
that I used to feel like whywould grandma do that?
You know, like what was thatchoice, you know?

(29:05):
But I wanna look back at thosephotos someday and be like that
was definitely a choice and itwas definitely grandma Elaine,
you know.
All right, guys, that's part oneof today's episode.
Just a quick reminder that werecord these episodes and divide
them into two parts to dropevery Tuesday.
If you wanna continue thisconversation with us, we'll see
you in part two.
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