July 18, 2023 • 33 mins
Ever find yourself flipping through an old photo album, a nostalgic smile creeping onto your face as you're flooded with warm, fuzzy memories? What if we told you that the printed photograph in your hand is the most potent memory preserver, more so than any digital snap? That's what we're delving into in this episode, exploring the tangible value of printed photographs and how they hold the weight of stories that iPhones just can't capture.
Stirring up childhood memories, we revisit some of our favorite movies and discuss how they've shaped our storytelling. We've all watched Brave Little Toaster, right? We still resonate with its characters and themes, and it's got us thinking about the power of nostalgia in home transformations. And as we walk down memory lane, we also touch on the poignant idea of projecting a loved one's hologram at the dinner table - a futuristic concept with a nostalgic twist.
Finally, we get a little personal, sharing funny anecdotes about our grandparents and their quirky nicknames. We invite you to a virtual tour of the Smoky Mountains and Litchfield Hills, the special places that bring back a rush of precious memories. And for all you romantics out there, we've got a unique wedding tip involving a special perfume and the powerful sense of smell. Come join us, as we honor the past while navigating the present.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Was your grandma's name, elaine.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It is Elaine yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's was my grandma's name was Elaine.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Stop it.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That is so funny.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
What's your?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
grandpa's name.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Lou.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Okay, lou.
Yeah, I had a winky and a Pete.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
A Pete.
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, it's a so.
And then my mom.
So my mom's mom passed away.
When she was young, she passedaway when she was 12.
So I met my biological grandma,my mom's side.
Her name was Rose and yeah, soElaine was in the picture when I
was a kid, so I was growing up,yeah, yeah.
(00:58):
But and I always funny because Ican never pronounce it
correctly and I didn't learnuntil many years a few years
before my grandpa passed hisdad's name, who came over on the
boat was, you know, straightfrom Italy was a.
I can't even pronounce itcorrectly, I loop Leo.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
A loop Leo.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, it's fun to say .
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, I had.
Oh, my grandparents are Elaine,who was married to Winky, and
his name was William, but theycalled him Winky.
I guess there was a, I'm notsure.
But what I was told was that hewould work on the farm and he
was milking a cow and the cow'smilk got in his eye and he kept
winking, so they called himWinky.
But he also has like siblingsthat are like Uncle Porky, uncle
(01:40):
Tiny, you know stuff like that.
So I'm not really sure.
And then there was one that wasjust Fred.
So I don't really know, but Ihad.
I have grandma Elaine.
She's still with us.
I have my grandpa Winky, whowas passed, my grandpa Pete, who
was my grandma Elaine's secondhusband, but he was my grandpa
nonetheless, he, I grew up withhim, you know.
(02:01):
And then on my dad's side Ihave Joyce, who is my nanny, and
then my papa, who passed awaylast year, is John All very
regal names.
And then I have a Winky.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I love that, I know.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And then there is.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's always interesting to the what, on both
sides of the family, you callthe grandparents.
There's all different namesGrandpa, who gets to be grandpa,
who gets to be papa or grandpa.
It's kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So your grandma, elaine do you have a specific
memory that is tied to her?
That when you see something,smell something, think about
something.
And it's funny that you saythat thing with the smells too.
And I just want to put thislittle tidbit for brides who are
listening grooms too, but picka perfume special to your
wedding and then wear it on youranniversary.
(02:54):
Because, apparently it alwaysbrings back that.
It's the smell, the nostalgiait brings it back.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
That's a good idea.
That should be on form of mindsomewhere.
That's a good one.
That's a good one, right?
Yeah, interesting.
I'm sorry, what was thequestion I forgot?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Do you have a special ?
Is there something that kind ofties grandma Elaine to your
memory?
Is there something or a placethat you walk in and you feel
like her presence, or do you nothave access to those homes
anymore?
Or do you have just somethingwhere maybe a special food that
she made?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Not a special food, it's more of a, I think, just
honestly the mountains.
So they lived in the SmokyMountains and it's both of them
yeah, yeah, so I mean itliterally lived not on the top
of the mountain, but where theywere.
Maggie Valley, north Carolina,is like you're looking up at it,
it was.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I mean it's beautiful .
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's gorgeous and they had a creek in the backyard
and if I ever am in a locationthat has that vibe, that's when
I think of them.
Because, that's the onlybecause we don't have that up
here other than like, likeFarmington maybe maybe in
Connecticut Well, the LitchfieldHills, but we never go up there
.
Do you ever go to Litchfield?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Kind of I mean just for like clients and stuff.
But I don't ever like exploreLitchfield.
I lived in Litchfield County.
At one point I was in.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
New.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Milford and I would go antiquing there a lot.
My dad and I would meet to gofishing sometimes at Kent Falls.
Yep, no Kent Falls.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, it's.
There's so many people in thestate that haven't made it up
there and I've only driventhrough there once or twice and
it's called times.
I remember thinking oh, my God,I was like I didn't know this
was here and it's because ittakes a while to get there,
because there's only back roadsto get up there, so there's
really no reason for me to go upthere, but when I have, I was
wowed at how beautiful it is upthere and understand why they
(04:48):
get they always get more snowthan most of us.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh yeah, lucky them.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's for me.
Yeah, I mean, you're a big snowlover.
We'll talk about this, we'll,we'll, we'll get back into
October, november, we'll starttalking about that again.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So that session that I had not too long ago with the
canoe and everything they livein.
They have a cabin in Salisburyand I had never been to
Salisbury before and I had neverbeen on top of Mount Riga, but,
man, it feels like you'restraight up in upstate Vermont.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It's crazy, yep, I'm like oh, we're still in
Connecticut.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
For real, it's not that far.
Yeah, it's kind of relativelyspeaking, it's not that far away
.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Nuts.
So, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, nono, no, this is a classic
tangent.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
No worries, I just I, I felt like it was so important
, like when I was taking photosof all of the things in my
grandmother's cabin, I felt likeit was so important to not move
anything.
I felt like it was so importantto, you know, besides the
seltzers, the water bottles,like things like that, where
it's obviously trash and thatyou know, but all of the things
(05:53):
that were kind of out of place,that were mismatched, the things
that made her house quirky.
I was just kind of taking allof these little quick snaps when
I saw something and I was likethat's so, grandma, you know.
So I, I just it's so funnybecause we've talked about
realism, we've talked about, youknow, capturing the day, the
(06:14):
humans, the whatever, as it is.
And there's so much pressure to,I think, when clients hire
people for photos.
There's so much pressure tomake your space feel as
completed, as picture, perfect,as magazine worthy as possible
and, in reality, like what Iwant to see is your lived in.
(06:36):
Look, I want to see the look ofyour home on a Saturday morning
when the kids just wake up andthey're, you know, running
around or watching.
Do they even do Saturdaycartoons anymore?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I don't even know.
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
But I want to see your space as you live in it.
I want you to look at photosand be like, no, that really
captures exactly what our homelooks like on a day to day, and
not just when it's at its best.
I think that's so important forpeople to remember that when
you're hiring photographers,you're not only hiring them to
capture you at your best or noteven at your best at your
realest is what we hope but alsoyour space is so important,
(07:14):
where you're raising your family, where you fell in love, where
you have all of these DIYprojects Like that is what is
important to me.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So, on that note, this is a good point.
So I'm thinking about this andI'm like I'm just envisioning,
looking at older photos that areI'm going to use the word
almost mundane, that are mundane.
Those are the ones, if I goback into a literal photo album,
that my parents have.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
The old film photos the old film photos taped to a
page, and it's so.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't know if everybody feels this way, but I
was always so interested inlooking at the old photos of
just like what the room lookedlike, because it was like it's
so, because you, I've been inrooms that were similar to that,
but they're aged, because, butfor some reason, when you look
back at that old photo, that wasthe new, that was the new at
(08:11):
the time, and it even looks likenewer ish, and it's so, so it's
just very interesting to lookat.
So but here's my here's whereI'm going with this we're
talking about take those photos.
We're telling anybody that'slistening that you know.
Maybe you should think aboutdoing something like this, like
if the last location or yourfavorite location have a little
session, whether it's with you,or you hire a photographer
(08:33):
because years down the roadyou're going to like it.
Here's the thing We've gonethrough some major shifts and
how people record, whetherthat's photo or video, because
back then it was careful witheach shot because you all had
film.
Now we all have thousands ofphotos on our iPhones that you
(08:53):
probably never look at.
Which side note for the weddings, you're not going to watch the
video of every piece of theceremony and reception when you
take your phone out, you're notgoing to watch it.
Don't do it.
It's an immediate family,that's fine, sure, but you're
not going to watch it.
So that's my piece on that.
(09:13):
But what is the advice?
How do we go about this goingforward?
Because I think, honestly, Ithink the only way to do this
properly is you need to printthem.
I think you got to print them.
They're going to get lost inthe digital world.
I think to make it special itneeds to be printed and it needs
to be put in a book that youcan open up and your kids or
(09:39):
nieces and nephews butessentially a future generation
will look at that, because ifit's on the digital, I just
don't see a world yet where itdoesn't get lost.
And this is just because when Ilook at a digital album
nowadays, I don't even want tolook at it that long, because
it's just so overwhelming.
There's so many photos.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Obviously, it's such a different feel to go swipe,
swipe, swipe, swipe.
As opposed to turning a pageand actually looking at the
photos on that page.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You're not going to be served an ad when you're
looking through the pages.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You're not going to be distracted with a
notification that pops down infront of you.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Maybe in the future, I don't know, maybe it will.
Someday a holographic ad willpop up, but for right, now no,
Sorry, go ahead.
Oh no no, that's me yelling.
Oh no no.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Oh no, I feel like I cut you off relatively often on
this.
So did I ever show you?
I don't think I showed you, butI went on a trip with my mom to
, and my sister to, new Orleansin 2018.
And I had all of these photosand I was like these photos are
super fucking cool and I don'twant them to just live like live
somewhere that I'm never goingto look at them.
(10:51):
So I actually made table of topbooks and it's kind of funny,
but it's also kind of creepy,because my favorite thing that
we did when we went there andthis is going to tell the
listeners like a lot about who Iam as a human One of my
favorite things that we did whenwe went there was to visit the
St Louis cemetery.
You bet your ass, your girl wastaking photos of everything.
(11:15):
And then I got home and I waslike what do I do with cemetery?
I made a book.
When I show it to you, hold on.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So, for anybody that's just listening to the
podcast, we are recording thiswith a video, so this will these
clips are getting thrown up onsocial media right now, but they
are going to live up on YouTube, so we need to start taking
these on YouTube, so I'm excitedto see this.
I just basically told everyonethat if you are just listening
to this and you want to see it,we're going to have the clips,
because we are recording this,okay.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So this it's like a little table top book.
It's a St Louis cemetery inNola, nola.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
How fun is that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, and it's like an artist, like an art book.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And you made that.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Thank you.
And then the other one is justlike this and very hairy, but
also a table top book thatpeople can just if they're
coming over, they can just, andit's a little bit of my work too
, but it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Preface to, as you say, very hairy.
She's got the dog in thebackground.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, no, but there are no photos of us in that book
.
There are no photos of thehumans that I went with.
This is literally just a bookof my trip and I just I was like
these photos deserve to livesomewhere because even today in
2023, there's a really goodchance that if I went down there
, that those same areas wouldnot look the same as when I went
(12:39):
, Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So it's kind of cool to have, like your spaces
captured in time, no matter what, even if it's a cemetery.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You're literally making me?
Yeah, no, you're.
So we have talked about this,Kelly and I have talked about
this multiple times that we'regoing to take some of our
favorite photos that live in ourdigital Facebook, old Facebook
albums or on our phone.
And I need to put themsomewhere because you just don't
look at them and how.
And there's just somethingabout holding that book.
(13:09):
Like I want to like literallygo to your house and look at
that book now.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I want to like feel the page, because Well, we still
have to have our dinner datewith Kelly and Chad, you do.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Kelly and Chad.
Yeah, we've been like literallytwo years into this.
We can finally get together andmeet up.
Well, it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
We were like meeting up forever and then we figured
out that we could do this overthe internet and now we're like,
oh see you never.
Bye, I'm never going to see youin person again.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
The album is just or a book or whatever you want to
call it.
Some printed organized limitednumber of photos in there is so
crucial and cool and I hopeanyone listening actually is
motivated to do something likethat now, because you can.
You, if you don't know where toprint your books, you can reach
out to either I can't say thiscarefully as we have more work
(13:57):
but or, if you wantrecommendations, there's
multiple ways to do this.
You, you know you can do itonline yourself.
You can do it on all theplatforms that you probably
already know.
I'm not going to say the names,but they're, they're all there.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And how beautiful is it to have the opportunity
somewhere down the line, if youhave cousins visiting you,
something like that, and let'ssay that you have said goodbye
to a lot of your favorite people.
How cool would it be to pullout a book that is literally
just called like Grandma's Cabin?
Yeah, and you just go throughand it's all of the little, the
(14:31):
little quirks that made thatcabin so special to you, and you
could look at it and go.
What was she thinking when shedid that?
You know and?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
now I envision, like I'm spiraling here.
Now I envision a you've gotbook.
That's such a specific thinglike grandma's cabin, but let's
say now you've got a like awhole collection holder of the
books, and it's literally calledlike Brooks, life like, and
it's just, but it's, it's piecesof, it's not dates, it's things
, it's it's Events or locations.
(14:59):
Yeah, so instead of just thestereotypical chronological
order, it's like Grandma's house.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It's all the things that you felt was important
enough to have on paper I loveand so it's not just you know
what.
Someday, when all of us passaway, when you and I are in the
ground, it's gonna be like Likeall of our life's.
Our Facebook is probably gonnabe like something that you're
gonna be able to export and it'sgonna be like a complete story
(15:26):
from start to finish.
You know, really weird but thethings that your people will be
able to take, like I don't know,someday when I'm gone, maybe
Evie or Logan will inherit oneof these books and be like how
cool is Auntie rookie takingphotos of a cemetery, like
that's so who she was, you knowexactly key point.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
That's.
That's who she was.
It invokes emotion and invokespersonality.
It doesn't.
What it does not invoke is whatis that?
What is the freaking word I'mlooking for?
It was the same word I'mlooking for before.
I can't pull it out of my brain.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's not when you said tangible.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's like superficial it's, it's something along
those lines, and I can't.
This will be a episode 20.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Episodes down, like that was the word.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It has no emotion, it has no personality, it's just
simply a superficial.
This, visually, is appealing,but what is that?
But that lasts, that, liketemporary oh, that's nice lasts
for 0.5 seconds before you moveon to the next thing, because
anybody can do that.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Right but how cool they can't yeah, and how cool
would it be if you, if you had achild and you were trying to
explain the feel of yourgrandparents cabin in the smoky
mountains and you were able totake out a book that captured
every crevice, every corner, tothe point where, when you're
looking at the photos, you canalmost smell what that cabin
(16:49):
smelled like.
You can feel what the air feltlike and Hopefully your son or
your daughter has an idea ofokay, this is, this is where my,
my dad was able to go as a kid.
You know, and hopefully I meanI just I Know that I'm an
interior design weirdo, like Iknow that I love this kind of
stuff, so I don't know if otherpeople necessarily have the same
(17:12):
pull towards spaces in the waythat I do, but there's something
so freaking special aboutphotographing your space Like
not in like a realtor, you know,zillow, add way, it's about
your space, your stuff, thephotos that are hanging on the
walls, the boots that are by thedoor, the, the pots in the pans
that are kept in the stove forstorage, things like that.
(17:34):
That's what's gonna make Likeall the difference when you
think about your childhoodplaces and the nostalgia that
you have, which is enough tomake me throw up.
I don't know, it does.
I don't know if other peoplefeel that strongly about Like
leaving a space and not ever.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I don't know if they don't, it's not.
I don't know if they know.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
This is not even think about it, no.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I think you have to present it to them.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I think you have to show them why it's worthy, and
it's hard to be really Sorry.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I'm sorry, Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
No, no, I was just gonna say it's hard to show
somebody.
It's worthy when you're showingyour own, because there's no
emotion, they don't have thememories.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
So you right it's.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
It's like ooh, this is another good metaphor.
Have you ever had somebody tellyou like they watch some old
Movie?
We killing I actually jokeabout this, and it's always a
question.
We ask ourselves some old moviethat you saw, maybe when you
were a kid or teenager, and Withthe world of streaming, you can
pull up a lot of these oldthings and you're you're like oh
(18:34):
my god, like this was such agood movie, I love this movie.
And they start watching itwithin five minutes.
It's like this is, this istrash.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
This is a weird ass.
The.
Horrifying and I think that'sthe reason why I am the way that
I am.
To be honest, this is bravelittle toaster was my favorite
movie ever and it's.
It's horrifying if you reallythink about like what it's about
.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh, and it was.
There's the scene, and whenthey're in the shop, that's the
one that always freaked me out.
It was just like as a kid.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Shop or the air conditioner dying in the window.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Or the car the car that gets picked up by the thing
and then, like crushed, by themachine that also has a face.
Or Kirby sacrificing himselfthe rest of the group and they
did it so well because he waslike that he's the grumpy one,
he's the grandpa he reminded meof my grandpa Pete.
He was a little gruff, you knowbut he was a nice.
But he was a nice.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
He always reminded me of my grandpa Pete.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Oh, that's so.
Yeah, so I.
I think to show people this,you'd have to have like some
proof of concepts, but it's hardto have a proof of concept on a
singular story.
I don't know how you do it,other than Showcasing what other
people's emotions were whenthey had something like this
(19:54):
done right.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
So like a like a tabletop book to show.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I so let me take this back.
I think you because you're like.
I don't know if there's peoplethat would feel the same as me
about this I'm convinced that inthe world of However many
people are on this earth nowseven billion that there's no
matter what you enjoy to do orwhat strikes you is Interesting.
Fun evokes emotion.
There's a group of people thatare in that same category
(20:18):
because we all havedoppelgangers, and we all, so we
just have to find them.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
There's a pretty good chance.
If you're feeling something,somebody else is feeling that
too.
Yep, it's just how many peoplewhat I was gonna say before,
when I almost rudely cut you off, like I always.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Broke, we're sitting here and just talking, it's.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Back to these.
I'm literally like why did I dothat?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I don't even think about it.
And I do the same thing because, remember, we talked about
short-term memory.
If I have a thought orsomething and I like I know that
Someone's talking, I have tolisten to their story and I'm
trying to get like my additionto this to get it out.
If I don't say it, it sounds it, I'm gonna lose it, and if I
ever cut you off, that's whythat's literally and then
because then it's gone, it'sgone.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, cuz you need to .
You know like I have to putthis in before it's.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Which people that do that, like I'm doing right now
here at this very second.
People confuse Individuals noteverybody, but people who do
that, who cut you off in stories.
A lot of people just think it'srude, but it's really that.
It's really that there's athey're trying to like like
they're gonna forget it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Either that or they're trying to Like I know I
do this thing where I'm like I'mdoing right now it's like I
make it about me.
But I don't mean to make itabout me.
I'm doing it in a way that Ican relate to you, like I'm
trying to show you, like Irelate to what you're saying to
me.
But what I was gonna say was IWould be interested in pulling
(21:42):
Kelly in on this conversation,because Kelly has kind of the
best of all worlds and I'm socurious.
So what I mean when I say that?
I know that Chris knows what Imean, but for the listeners,
chris and Kelly live in one oftheir, their family homes
Kelly's family home and it wasin the family.
It held all of these memoriesfor her and now they're getting
(22:04):
to do what they want to do withit, which is beautiful and
amazing.
But I wonder if she kind of hada little bit of that and maybe,
you know, if she had a littlebit of that like, like I don't
really know if I Want to do thismuch work to my so-and-so's
house you know what I'm sayinglike just because it won't feel
like them anymore.
Or if she was like let's hitthe ground run in.
(22:27):
Let's Let her on it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
It is a little bit different.
They're all.
They're always gonna be alittle bit different.
I'm gonna let.
I almost want to say let's savethat and let her speak on that.
All I can tell you is that, yes, there were absolutely moments
of kind of emotional connectsfor a second where there was a
stopping point, where she kindof Took in what we were actually
doing and we just talk about it.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's well, it's kind of nice too, because she
was able to keep certainportions of that house in the
way that she remembered them asa kid and add Portions where it
feels like, okay, but this islike our space, this is our home
, but she still has that.
She walks in the front door andshe feels the way that she did
when she was a kid, which iskind of a nice balance a a.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It's funny you're saying this the last night.
It was brought up actually, sowe, we added an addition, so you
can feel in the house I didn'twant to give too much
information, because I didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I don't know who listens to this, so like I don't
want to give up too much oflike, kelly's like and it was
this person's house to Kelly.
So if somebody's listening andthey know they're like, oh, now
I know where Kelly and Chrislive.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
You know, I don't know they, it's, I mean our
millions of viewers right now.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So Listen, it's going up.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's going up.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
It's going up.
I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I'm not surprised.
We just got a.
We're talking it out.
This, is it?
So Last night, last night,conversation came up where in so
in the house there was anaddition built.
That's what's the project forthe past two plus years and you
can feel in the new kitchenwhere there's when the floors
(23:57):
had to line up was one of themore challenging parts, because
there was Linolium and thenthere was subfloor and when
building the new spot you haveto make them meet, for those
connections were in the oldhouse to the new house and it
wasn't in one spot.
It's not perfect, it's likeever so slightly different, even
with how much work that theydid, and you can feel it a
(24:17):
little bit if you step in thisspot and it was brought up last
night, as you know what.
It's fine because it's like a.
It's just like a throwback tothis is where the old house was
and it's this is where ourkitchen ended, so it's kind of
like it's cool.
Yeah, I mean it doesn't.
It doesn't have to be perfect,it's not, as long as it's not a
tripping hazard and we're notgoing to be perfect and it's not
.
It's.
(24:37):
It's like ever so slight and weknow where it is, we can feel
it and it's just kind of.
She made the point that waslike that's just an ode to where
the house was, like you invitea guest over that you don't like
and you're like don't tell themwhere the switch is.
Don't tell them.
Don't tell them.
It's going to be hilarious.
Yeah, let them fall, that'shorrible, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So I don't really I don't know where to end this.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't really know, I'm just I think a good thought
process is you know, think about.
Two takeaways here are if youhaven't, if your life is moving
so fast that you haven't takenthe time to think about
recording some memories, andespecially but what's weird
about that sentence is we livein a world where we're recording
(25:19):
everything, but maybe not themundane things that you think
are mundane that actually mightbe important later on, right?
So something, as Brooke does,which is photographed her
grandma's house recently andsaid that this wouldn't
technically be the visuallyappealing picture perfect photo.
No, it's not what somebody.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's not what a realtor would post to sell it.
It's not it's, but it is theway that I would remember that
house and I want to encouragepeople who feel like their homes
don't necessarily look like thepicture perfect pottery barn
catalog.
I just I think there'ssomething to be said about the
way in which you not only yourhouse but the way in which you
live in your house and the wayin which your kids someday will
(26:02):
remember that home and kind of,I guess, just to thank your
lucky stars if you get, if youget to say goodbye to a home
before you say goodbye to thepeople who lived in it, and you
all collectively get to kind ofunderstand that those memories
are going to live there now andthis is a new chapter for all of
(26:25):
you.
I think that that's we can allonly be so lucky.
I think that that is such abeautiful thing to be able to
say goodbye.
And maybe before you saygoodbye to your favorite place,
you should just photograph it asit is and not worry about the
things that might not be pictureperfect or the things that make
it quirky, the little cornersthat you might not be so proud
(26:48):
of.
Someday you might look at thatcorner and be like, oh I really.
You know, I remember when weused to have a Christmas tree in
that corner.
You know, my very first.
You'll be proud of me.
My very first threads post wassomething that I thought of when
I was up there, and it was yourfavorite.
Places can become ghosts too,because there are so many.
There are so many places that Iwish that I could visit, just
(27:10):
like there are so many peoplethat I wish I could still hug,
and it's almost equally aspainful to not be able to do
either of those things.
So a lot of the places whereall of your love lives, they
deserve to be captured too,because that was your dwelling.
And how creepy is it too, justlike on a totally separate note.
(27:30):
How creepy is it to think Likeokay for your house, right, it
was Kelly's, someone's house.
Think about how long that househas been standing and how many
people have walked through yourhouse and how they say that when
you pass, the energy doesn'tleave, the energy needs to go
(27:55):
somewhere.
And a lot of what they say isthat souls like ghosts basically
are souls that are just theirenergy, that don't have anywhere
to go.
So, think about how many peopleand I'm not saying your house
specifically, but think about ifyou're living in a home that
might be from the 1900s how manypeople dwelled that home and
how did they see their home.
I would give anything to Like Ilived in an old Victorian,
(28:19):
actually, you know what.
No, my last house was built in1920.
I would have given anything tosee what that house looked like
in all of its different stages,even though I wasn't there.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That's so cool.
Yeah, it'd be wild to see it.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So if you have a house that's been kept in the
family and you can look at allof those photos of what it
evolved to, you know, someday ifyou have kids your kids will
look at it and go, wow, but whenour parents had that house it
changed significantly from whenKelly's someone had that house.
You know, it's just nuts.
Life is so weird.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
The nostalgia thing is so weird.
It is Millennials, we dig it,we do love, we love our
nostalgia specifically.
So whether I should say lovehate, love hate.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
What's that song?
It's like oh, I love it and Ihate it at the same time, like I
like thinking about it, but atthe same time I'm like ooh, but
if I think about it enough, itcan make me cry.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know I mean that's, that's nostalgia, that's
yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, anyway, photograph your people,
photograph your places beforeyou have to say goodbye to them,
because sometimes it can bejust as hard to say goodbye to
your favorite places as yourfavorite people.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
That's it, that's it.
That's all I got.
That's all I got for this one.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
The next one is going to have to be mostly you,
because I feel like I was justtalking forever on this one.
Did you get a good story?
Good story?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, great story.
No, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But seriously, you and Kelly should be
photographing every nook andcranny of your house.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's.
I've already been thinkingabout this entire time in the
back of my head, like all thedifferent things, that I could
be doing this as a project forlike.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Like the basement.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But wait before we're done with this.
Oh my God, I totally forgot totell you this.
It has nothing to do withanything.
I Okay.
So on prime day I was like Ireally want a projector.
I've always wanted a projector.
I didn't know.
I was like what am I going todo with it?
I don't know.
We could have movie nights onthe back, like thing, and then
(30:23):
when we do the basement we canhave the projector down there.
And so I'm trying to convincemyself.
My cousin's like just do it,it's normally $140.
Right now it's 90.
Like okay.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Oh, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Hell yeah, dude, I ordered it.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Hey yeah of course.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So then here's the thing, though.
Then later on that day, I sawthat one of my favorite artists
she's one of my favoritephotographers she posted a like
a memory session of this girlwho lost her dad, and they did
this really cool thing with aprojector.
And I totally caught that itwas a projector, but I my brain
didn't like put the two and twotogether.
(30:56):
Yeah, so my daughter waswriting a car like a father's
day card to her dad, whichtotally tugged at my
heartstrings.
Her dad had passed away, andwhat they did was they did.
They set up the projector sothat it almost looked like her
dad was sitting on the otherside of the table with her.
They like took a photo of himand he was sitting in the photo,
(31:18):
so they had it like almost likeon the chair.
So she's across the tablewriting like basically like a
thank you to her dad foreverything that he did for her.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
And then on the other side, you know his hologram
kind of, and I was like, oh myGod, that's so cool.
You know, like I I almost likeI wish I thought of that right
Cause now if I do it it'scopying somebody else's idea,
but like that's freaking awesome.
So then later on in the in thesession they had, she had these
awesome photos of this of thisgirl and it had like a spotlight
(31:48):
that was like it almost likecovered half of her face, but it
was so the cutoff was sointense that I was like how did
they do that?
You know, and of course I hadjust seen the dad on the
projector and stuff, but like Ididn't put the two into.
So I'm like, how did they dothat?
And then I look up and like,brushing my teeth getting ready
to go to a session, and I lookup on YouTube like DIY
(32:09):
photographer, spotlight hard cutor something like that, because
the way that the light cut onher face was like so cool and
the guy goes well, the firstthing you're going to need is a
projector and I was like, oh myGod, the universe just wanted
you to have this projector.
I know I did, but it was reallycool.
I'm going to have to, I'm goingto have to send you the series,
(32:31):
like the set Cause I was like Iwas just amazed.
It was like painfully beautiful, but it was something that I
hadn't really seen with someonewho had lost someone and did a
memory session.
So, listen, I got a projector,I'm ready to play, but I just
thought that was, I know Ithought that was really funny.
I was like I'm going to have aprojector.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It's probably in the mail.
You timed that perfectly.
The universe made the rightchoice, helped you push into
that projector.
So glad you got that.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, so so stay tuned, you'll see some projector
photos.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Hey, nice.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
But anyway, that's all I got so.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Perfect, all right, we'll talk next week.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Was your grandma's name, elaine.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It is Elaine yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's was my grandma's name was Elaine.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Stop it.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That is so funny.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
What's your?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
grandpa's name.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Lou.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Okay, lou.
Yeah, I had a winky and a Pete.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
A Pete.
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, it's a so.
And then my mom.
So my mom's mom passed away.
When she was young, she passedaway when she was 12.
So I met my biological grandma,my mom's side.
Her name was Rose and yeah, soElaine was in the picture when I
was a kid, so I was growing up,yeah, yeah.
(00:58):
But and I always funny because Ican never pronounce it
correctly and I didn't learnuntil many years a few years
before my grandpa passed hisdad's name, who came over on the
boat was, you know, straightfrom Italy was a.
I can't even pronounce itcorrectly, I loop Leo.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
A loop Leo.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, it's fun to say .
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, I had.
Oh, my grandparents are Elaine,who was married to Winky, and
his name was William, but theycalled him Winky.
I guess there was a, I'm notsure.
But what I was told was that hewould work on the farm and he
was milking a cow and the cow'smilk got in his eye and he kept
winking, so they called himWinky.
But he also has like siblingsthat are like Uncle Porky, uncle
(01:40):
Tiny, you know stuff like that.
So I'm not really sure.
And then there was one that wasjust Fred.
So I don't really know, but Ihad.
I have grandma Elaine.
She's still with us.
I have my grandpa Winky, whowas passed, my grandpa Pete, who
was my grandma Elaine's secondhusband, but he was my grandpa
nonetheless, he, I grew up withhim, you know.
(02:01):
And then on my dad's side Ihave Joyce, who is my nanny, and
then my papa, who passed awaylast year, is John All very
regal names.
And then I have a Winky.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I love that, I know.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And then there is.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's always interesting to the what, on both
sides of the family, you callthe grandparents.
There's all different namesGrandpa, who gets to be grandpa,
who gets to be papa or grandpa.
It's kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So your grandma, elaine do you have a specific
memory that is tied to her?
That when you see something,smell something, think about
something.
And it's funny that you saythat thing with the smells too.
And I just want to put thislittle tidbit for brides who are
listening grooms too, but picka perfume special to your
wedding and then wear it on youranniversary.
(02:54):
Because, apparently it alwaysbrings back that.
It's the smell, the nostalgiait brings it back.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
That's a good idea.
That should be on form of mindsomewhere.
That's a good one.
That's a good one, right?
Yeah, interesting.
I'm sorry, what was thequestion I forgot?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Do you have a special ?
Is there something that kind ofties grandma Elaine to your
memory?
Is there something or a placethat you walk in and you feel
like her presence, or do you nothave access to those homes
anymore?
Or do you have just somethingwhere maybe a special food that
she made?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Not a special food, it's more of a, I think, just
honestly the mountains.
So they lived in the SmokyMountains and it's both of them
yeah, yeah, so I mean itliterally lived not on the top
of the mountain, but where theywere.
Maggie Valley, north Carolina,is like you're looking up at it,
it was.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I mean it's beautiful .
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's gorgeous and they had a creek in the backyard
and if I ever am in a locationthat has that vibe, that's when
I think of them.
Because, that's the onlybecause we don't have that up
here other than like, likeFarmington maybe maybe in
Connecticut Well, the LitchfieldHills, but we never go up there
.
Do you ever go to Litchfield?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Kind of I mean just for like clients and stuff.
But I don't ever like exploreLitchfield.
I lived in Litchfield County.
At one point I was in.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
New.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Milford and I would go antiquing there a lot.
My dad and I would meet to gofishing sometimes at Kent Falls.
Yep, no Kent Falls.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, it's.
There's so many people in thestate that haven't made it up
there and I've only driventhrough there once or twice and
it's called times.
I remember thinking oh, my God,I was like I didn't know this
was here and it's because ittakes a while to get there,
because there's only back roadsto get up there, so there's
really no reason for me to go upthere, but when I have, I was
wowed at how beautiful it is upthere and understand why they
(04:48):
get they always get more snowthan most of us.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh yeah, lucky them.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's for me.
Yeah, I mean, you're a big snowlover.
We'll talk about this, we'll,we'll, we'll get back into
October, november, we'll starttalking about that again.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So that session that I had not too long ago with the
canoe and everything they livein.
They have a cabin in Salisburyand I had never been to
Salisbury before and I had neverbeen on top of Mount Riga, but,
man, it feels like you'restraight up in upstate Vermont.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It's crazy, yep, I'm like oh, we're still in
Connecticut.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
For real, it's not that far.
Yeah, it's kind of relativelyspeaking, it's not that far away
.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Nuts.
So, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, nono, no, this is a classic
tangent.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
No worries, I just I, I felt like it was so important
, like when I was taking photosof all of the things in my
grandmother's cabin, I felt likeit was so important to not move
anything.
I felt like it was so importantto, you know, besides the
seltzers, the water bottles,like things like that, where
it's obviously trash and thatyou know, but all of the things
(05:53):
that were kind of out of place,that were mismatched, the things
that made her house quirky.
I was just kind of taking allof these little quick snaps when
I saw something and I was likethat's so, grandma, you know.
So I, I just it's so funnybecause we've talked about
realism, we've talked about, youknow, capturing the day, the
(06:14):
humans, the whatever, as it is.
And there's so much pressure to,I think, when clients hire
people for photos.
There's so much pressure tomake your space feel as
completed, as picture, perfect,as magazine worthy as possible
and, in reality, like what Iwant to see is your lived in.
(06:36):
Look, I want to see the look ofyour home on a Saturday morning
when the kids just wake up andthey're, you know, running
around or watching.
Do they even do Saturdaycartoons anymore?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I don't even know.
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
But I want to see your space as you live in it.
I want you to look at photosand be like, no, that really
captures exactly what our homelooks like on a day to day, and
not just when it's at its best.
I think that's so important forpeople to remember that when
you're hiring photographers,you're not only hiring them to
capture you at your best or noteven at your best at your
realest is what we hope but alsoyour space is so important,
(07:14):
where you're raising your family, where you fell in love, where
you have all of these DIYprojects Like that is what is
important to me.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So, on that note, this is a good point.
So I'm thinking about this andI'm like I'm just envisioning,
looking at older photos that areI'm going to use the word
almost mundane, that are mundane.
Those are the ones, if I goback into a literal photo album,
that my parents have.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
The old film photos the old film photos taped to a
page, and it's so.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't know if everybody feels this way, but I
was always so interested inlooking at the old photos of
just like what the room lookedlike, because it was like it's
so, because you, I've been inrooms that were similar to that,
but they're aged, because, butfor some reason, when you look
back at that old photo, that wasthe new, that was the new at
(08:11):
the time, and it even looks likenewer ish, and it's so, so it's
just very interesting to lookat.
So but here's my here's whereI'm going with this we're
talking about take those photos.
We're telling anybody that'slistening that you know.
Maybe you should think aboutdoing something like this, like
if the last location or yourfavorite location have a little
session, whether it's with you,or you hire a photographer
(08:33):
because years down the roadyou're going to like it.
Here's the thing We've gonethrough some major shifts and
how people record, whetherthat's photo or video, because
back then it was careful witheach shot because you all had
film.
Now we all have thousands ofphotos on our iPhones that you
(08:53):
probably never look at.
Which side note for the weddings, you're not going to watch the
video of every piece of theceremony and reception when you
take your phone out, you're notgoing to watch it.
Don't do it.
It's an immediate family,that's fine, sure, but you're
not going to watch it.
So that's my piece on that.
(09:13):
But what is the advice?
How do we go about this goingforward?
Because I think, honestly, Ithink the only way to do this
properly is you need to printthem.
I think you got to print them.
They're going to get lost inthe digital world.
I think to make it special itneeds to be printed and it needs
to be put in a book that youcan open up and your kids or
(09:39):
nieces and nephews butessentially a future generation
will look at that, because ifit's on the digital, I just
don't see a world yet where itdoesn't get lost.
And this is just because when Ilook at a digital album
nowadays, I don't even want tolook at it that long, because
it's just so overwhelming.
There's so many photos.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Obviously, it's such a different feel to go swipe,
swipe, swipe, swipe.
As opposed to turning a pageand actually looking at the
photos on that page.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You're not going to be served an ad when you're
looking through the pages.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You're not going to be distracted with a
notification that pops down infront of you.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Maybe in the future, I don't know, maybe it will.
Someday a holographic ad willpop up, but for right, now no,
Sorry, go ahead.
Oh no no, that's me yelling.
Oh no no.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Oh no, I feel like I cut you off relatively often on
this.
So did I ever show you?
I don't think I showed you, butI went on a trip with my mom to
, and my sister to, new Orleansin 2018.
And I had all of these photosand I was like these photos are
super fucking cool and I don'twant them to just live like live
somewhere that I'm never goingto look at them.
(10:51):
So I actually made table of topbooks and it's kind of funny,
but it's also kind of creepy,because my favorite thing that
we did when we went there andthis is going to tell the
listeners like a lot about who Iam as a human One of my
favorite things that we did whenwe went there was to visit the
St Louis cemetery.
You bet your ass, your girl wastaking photos of everything.
(11:15):
And then I got home and I waslike what do I do with cemetery?
I made a book.
When I show it to you, hold on.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So, for anybody that's just listening to the
podcast, we are recording thiswith a video, so this will these
clips are getting thrown up onsocial media right now, but they
are going to live up on YouTube, so we need to start taking
these on YouTube, so I'm excitedto see this.
I just basically told everyonethat if you are just listening
to this and you want to see it,we're going to have the clips,
because we are recording this,okay.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So this it's like a little table top book.
It's a St Louis cemetery inNola, nola.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
How fun is that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, and it's like an artist, like an art book.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And you made that.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Thank you.
And then the other one is justlike this and very hairy, but
also a table top book thatpeople can just if they're
coming over, they can just, andit's a little bit of my work too
, but it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Preface to, as you say, very hairy.
She's got the dog in thebackground.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, no, but there are no photos of us in that book
.
There are no photos of thehumans that I went with.
This is literally just a bookof my trip and I just I was like
these photos deserve to livesomewhere because even today in
2023, there's a really goodchance that if I went down there
, that those same areas wouldnot look the same as when I went
(12:39):
, Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So it's kind of cool to have, like your spaces
captured in time, no matter what, even if it's a cemetery.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You're literally making me?
Yeah, no, you're.
So we have talked about this,Kelly and I have talked about
this multiple times that we'regoing to take some of our
favorite photos that live in ourdigital Facebook, old Facebook
albums or on our phone.
And I need to put themsomewhere because you just don't
look at them and how.
And there's just somethingabout holding that book.
(13:09):
Like I want to like literallygo to your house and look at
that book now.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I want to like feel the page, because Well, we still
have to have our dinner datewith Kelly and Chad, you do.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Kelly and Chad.
Yeah, we've been like literallytwo years into this.
We can finally get together andmeet up.
Well, it's so funny.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
We were like meeting up forever and then we figured
out that we could do this overthe internet and now we're like,
oh see you never.
Bye, I'm never going to see youin person again.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
The album is just or a book or whatever you want to
call it.
Some printed organized limitednumber of photos in there is so
crucial and cool and I hopeanyone listening actually is
motivated to do something likethat now, because you can.
You, if you don't know where toprint your books, you can reach
out to either I can't say thiscarefully as we have more work
(13:57):
but or, if you wantrecommendations, there's
multiple ways to do this.
You, you know you can do itonline yourself.
You can do it on all theplatforms that you probably
already know.
I'm not going to say the names,but they're, they're all there.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And how beautiful is it to have the opportunity
somewhere down the line, if youhave cousins visiting you,
something like that, and let'ssay that you have said goodbye
to a lot of your favorite people.
How cool would it be to pullout a book that is literally
just called like Grandma's Cabin?
Yeah, and you just go throughand it's all of the little, the
(14:31):
little quirks that made thatcabin so special to you, and you
could look at it and go.
What was she thinking when shedid that?
You know and?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
now I envision, like I'm spiraling here.
Now I envision a you've gotbook.
That's such a specific thinglike grandma's cabin, but let's
say now you've got a like awhole collection holder of the
books, and it's literally calledlike Brooks, life like, and
it's just, but it's, it's piecesof, it's not dates, it's things
, it's it's Events or locations.
(14:59):
Yeah, so instead of just thestereotypical chronological
order, it's like Grandma's house.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It's all the things that you felt was important
enough to have on paper I loveand so it's not just you know
what.
Someday, when all of us passaway, when you and I are in the
ground, it's gonna be like Likeall of our life's.
Our Facebook is probably gonnabe like something that you're
gonna be able to export and it'sgonna be like a complete story
(15:26):
from start to finish.
You know, really weird but thethings that your people will be
able to take, like I don't know,someday when I'm gone, maybe
Evie or Logan will inherit oneof these books and be like how
cool is Auntie rookie takingphotos of a cemetery, like
that's so who she was, you knowexactly key point.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
That's.
That's who she was.
It invokes emotion and invokespersonality.
It doesn't.
What it does not invoke is whatis that?
What is the freaking word I'mlooking for?
It was the same word I'mlooking for before.
I can't pull it out of my brain.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's not when you said tangible.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's like superficial it's, it's something along
those lines, and I can't.
This will be a episode 20.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Episodes down, like that was the word.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It has no emotion, it has no personality, it's just
simply a superficial.
This, visually, is appealing,but what is that?
But that lasts, that, liketemporary oh, that's nice lasts
for 0.5 seconds before you moveon to the next thing, because
anybody can do that.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Right but how cool they can't yeah, and how cool
would it be if you, if you had achild and you were trying to
explain the feel of yourgrandparents cabin in the smoky
mountains and you were able totake out a book that captured
every crevice, every corner, tothe point where, when you're
looking at the photos, you canalmost smell what that cabin
(16:49):
smelled like.
You can feel what the air feltlike and Hopefully your son or
your daughter has an idea ofokay, this is, this is where my,
my dad was able to go as a kid.
You know, and hopefully I meanI just I Know that I'm an
interior design weirdo, like Iknow that I love this kind of
stuff, so I don't know if otherpeople necessarily have the same
(17:12):
pull towards spaces in the waythat I do, but there's something
so freaking special aboutphotographing your space Like
not in like a realtor, you know,zillow, add way, it's about
your space, your stuff, thephotos that are hanging on the
walls, the boots that are by thedoor, the, the pots in the pans
that are kept in the stove forstorage, things like that.
(17:34):
That's what's gonna make Likeall the difference when you
think about your childhoodplaces and the nostalgia that
you have, which is enough tomake me throw up.
I don't know, it does.
I don't know if other peoplefeel that strongly about Like
leaving a space and not ever.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I don't know if they don't, it's not.
I don't know if they know.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
This is not even think about it, no.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I think you have to present it to them.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I think you have to show them why it's worthy, and
it's hard to be really Sorry.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I'm sorry, Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
No, no, I was just gonna say it's hard to show
somebody.
It's worthy when you're showingyour own, because there's no
emotion, they don't have thememories.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
So you right it's.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
It's like ooh, this is another good metaphor.
Have you ever had somebody tellyou like they watch some old
Movie?
We killing I actually jokeabout this, and it's always a
question.
We ask ourselves some old moviethat you saw, maybe when you
were a kid or teenager, and Withthe world of streaming, you can
pull up a lot of these oldthings and you're you're like oh
(18:34):
my god, like this was such agood movie, I love this movie.
And they start watching itwithin five minutes.
It's like this is, this istrash.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
This is a weird ass.
The.
Horrifying and I think that'sthe reason why I am the way that
I am.
To be honest, this is bravelittle toaster was my favorite
movie ever and it's.
It's horrifying if you reallythink about like what it's about
.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh, and it was.
There's the scene, and whenthey're in the shop, that's the
one that always freaked me out.
It was just like as a kid.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Shop or the air conditioner dying in the window.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Or the car the car that gets picked up by the thing
and then, like crushed, by themachine that also has a face.
Or Kirby sacrificing himselfthe rest of the group and they
did it so well because he waslike that he's the grumpy one,
he's the grandpa he reminded meof my grandpa Pete.
He was a little gruff, you knowbut he was a nice.
But he was a nice.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
He always reminded me of my grandpa Pete.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Oh, that's so.
Yeah, so I.
I think to show people this,you'd have to have like some
proof of concepts, but it's hardto have a proof of concept on a
singular story.
I don't know how you do it,other than Showcasing what other
people's emotions were whenthey had something like this
(19:54):
done right.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
So like a like a tabletop book to show.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I so let me take this back.
I think you because you're like.
I don't know if there's peoplethat would feel the same as me
about this I'm convinced that inthe world of However many
people are on this earth nowseven billion that there's no
matter what you enjoy to do orwhat strikes you is Interesting.
Fun evokes emotion.
There's a group of people thatare in that same category
(20:18):
because we all havedoppelgangers, and we all, so we
just have to find them.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
There's a pretty good chance.
If you're feeling something,somebody else is feeling that
too.
Yep, it's just how many peoplewhat I was gonna say before,
when I almost rudely cut you off, like I always.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Broke, we're sitting here and just talking, it's.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Back to these.
I'm literally like why did I dothat?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I don't even think about it.
And I do the same thing because, remember, we talked about
short-term memory.
If I have a thought orsomething and I like I know that
Someone's talking, I have tolisten to their story and I'm
trying to get like my additionto this to get it out.
If I don't say it, it sounds it, I'm gonna lose it, and if I
ever cut you off, that's whythat's literally and then
because then it's gone, it'sgone.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, cuz you need to .
You know like I have to putthis in before it's.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Which people that do that, like I'm doing right now
here at this very second.
People confuse Individuals noteverybody, but people who do
that, who cut you off in stories.
A lot of people just think it'srude, but it's really that.
It's really that there's athey're trying to like like
they're gonna forget it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Either that or they're trying to Like I know I
do this thing where I'm like I'mdoing right now it's like I
make it about me.
But I don't mean to make itabout me.
I'm doing it in a way that Ican relate to you, like I'm
trying to show you, like Irelate to what you're saying to
me.
But what I was gonna say was IWould be interested in pulling
(21:42):
Kelly in on this conversation,because Kelly has kind of the
best of all worlds and I'm socurious.
So what I mean when I say that?
I know that Chris knows what Imean, but for the listeners,
chris and Kelly live in one oftheir, their family homes
Kelly's family home and it wasin the family.
It held all of these memoriesfor her and now they're getting
(22:04):
to do what they want to do withit, which is beautiful and
amazing.
But I wonder if she kind of hada little bit of that and maybe,
you know, if she had a littlebit of that like, like I don't
really know if I Want to do thismuch work to my so-and-so's
house you know what I'm sayinglike just because it won't feel
like them anymore.
Or if she was like let's hitthe ground run in.
(22:27):
Let's Let her on it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
It is a little bit different.
They're all.
They're always gonna be alittle bit different.
I'm gonna let.
I almost want to say let's savethat and let her speak on that.
All I can tell you is that, yes, there were absolutely moments
of kind of emotional connectsfor a second where there was a
stopping point, where she kindof Took in what we were actually
doing and we just talk about it.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's well, it's kind of nice too, because she
was able to keep certainportions of that house in the
way that she remembered them asa kid and add Portions where it
feels like, okay, but this islike our space, this is our home
, but she still has that.
She walks in the front door andshe feels the way that she did
when she was a kid, which iskind of a nice balance a a.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It's funny you're saying this the last night.
It was brought up actually, sowe, we added an addition, so you
can feel in the house I didn'twant to give too much
information, because I didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I don't know who listens to this, so like I don't
want to give up too much oflike, kelly's like and it was
this person's house to Kelly.
So if somebody's listening andthey know they're like, oh, now
I know where Kelly and Chrislive.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
You know, I don't know they, it's, I mean our
millions of viewers right now.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So Listen, it's going up.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's going up.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
It's going up.
I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I'm not surprised.
We just got a.
We're talking it out.
This, is it?
So Last night, last night,conversation came up where in so
in the house there was anaddition built.
That's what's the project forthe past two plus years and you
can feel in the new kitchenwhere there's when the floors
(23:57):
had to line up was one of themore challenging parts, because
there was Linolium and thenthere was subfloor and when
building the new spot you haveto make them meet, for those
connections were in the oldhouse to the new house and it
wasn't in one spot.
It's not perfect, it's likeever so slightly different, even
with how much work that theydid, and you can feel it a
(24:17):
little bit if you step in thisspot and it was brought up last
night, as you know what.
It's fine because it's like a.
It's just like a throwback tothis is where the old house was
and it's this is where ourkitchen ended, so it's kind of
like it's cool.
Yeah, I mean it doesn't.
It doesn't have to be perfect,it's not, as long as it's not a
tripping hazard and we're notgoing to be perfect and it's not
.
It's.
(24:37):
It's like ever so slight and weknow where it is, we can feel
it and it's just kind of.
She made the point that waslike that's just an ode to where
the house was, like you invitea guest over that you don't like
and you're like don't tell themwhere the switch is.
Don't tell them.
Don't tell them.
It's going to be hilarious.
Yeah, let them fall, that'shorrible, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So I don't really I don't know where to end this.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't really know, I'm just I think a good thought
process is you know, think about.
Two takeaways here are if youhaven't, if your life is moving
so fast that you haven't takenthe time to think about
recording some memories, andespecially but what's weird
about that sentence is we livein a world where we're recording
(25:19):
everything, but maybe not themundane things that you think
are mundane that actually mightbe important later on, right?
So something, as Brooke does,which is photographed her
grandma's house recently andsaid that this wouldn't
technically be the visuallyappealing picture perfect photo.
No, it's not what somebody.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's not what a realtor would post to sell it.
It's not it's, but it is theway that I would remember that
house and I want to encouragepeople who feel like their homes
don't necessarily look like thepicture perfect pottery barn
catalog.
I just I think there'ssomething to be said about the
way in which you not only yourhouse but the way in which you
live in your house and the wayin which your kids someday will
(26:02):
remember that home and kind of,I guess, just to thank your
lucky stars if you get, if youget to say goodbye to a home
before you say goodbye to thepeople who lived in it, and you
all collectively get to kind ofunderstand that those memories
are going to live there now andthis is a new chapter for all of
(26:25):
you.
I think that that's we can allonly be so lucky.
I think that that is such abeautiful thing to be able to
say goodbye.
And maybe before you saygoodbye to your favorite place,
you should just photograph it asit is and not worry about the
things that might not be pictureperfect or the things that make
it quirky, the little cornersthat you might not be so proud
(26:48):
of.
Someday you might look at thatcorner and be like, oh I really.
You know, I remember when weused to have a Christmas tree in
that corner.
You know, my very first.
You'll be proud of me.
My very first threads post wassomething that I thought of when
I was up there, and it was yourfavorite.
Places can become ghosts too,because there are so many.
There are so many places that Iwish that I could visit, just
(27:10):
like there are so many peoplethat I wish I could still hug,
and it's almost equally aspainful to not be able to do
either of those things.
So a lot of the places whereall of your love lives, they
deserve to be captured too,because that was your dwelling.
And how creepy is it too, justlike on a totally separate note.
(27:30):
How creepy is it to think Likeokay for your house, right, it
was Kelly's, someone's house.
Think about how long that househas been standing and how many
people have walked through yourhouse and how they say that when
you pass, the energy doesn'tleave, the energy needs to go
(27:55):
somewhere.
And a lot of what they say isthat souls like ghosts basically
are souls that are just theirenergy, that don't have anywhere
to go.
So, think about how many peopleand I'm not saying your house
specifically, but think about ifyou're living in a home that
might be from the 1900s how manypeople dwelled that home and
how did they see their home.
I would give anything to Like Ilived in an old Victorian,
(28:19):
actually, you know what.
No, my last house was built in1920.
I would have given anything tosee what that house looked like
in all of its different stages,even though I wasn't there.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That's so cool.
Yeah, it'd be wild to see it.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So if you have a house that's been kept in the
family and you can look at allof those photos of what it
evolved to, you know, someday ifyou have kids your kids will
look at it and go, wow, but whenour parents had that house it
changed significantly from whenKelly's someone had that house.
You know, it's just nuts.
Life is so weird.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
The nostalgia thing is so weird.
It is Millennials, we dig it,we do love, we love our
nostalgia specifically.
So whether I should say lovehate, love hate.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
What's that song?
It's like oh, I love it and Ihate it at the same time, like I
like thinking about it, but atthe same time I'm like ooh, but
if I think about it enough, itcan make me cry.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know I mean that's, that's nostalgia, that's
yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, anyway, photograph your people,
photograph your places beforeyou have to say goodbye to them,
because sometimes it can bejust as hard to say goodbye to
your favorite places as yourfavorite people.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
That's it, that's it.
That's all I got.
That's all I got for this one.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
The next one is going to have to be mostly you,
because I feel like I was justtalking forever on this one.
Did you get a good story?
Good story?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, great story.
No, it's all good.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But seriously, you and Kelly should be
photographing every nook andcranny of your house.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's.
I've already been thinkingabout this entire time in the
back of my head, like all thedifferent things, that I could
be doing this as a project forlike.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Like the basement.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But wait before we're done with this.
Oh my God, I totally forgot totell you this.
It has nothing to do withanything.
I Okay.
So on prime day I was like Ireally want a projector.
I've always wanted a projector.
I didn't know.
I was like what am I going todo with it?
I don't know.
We could have movie nights onthe back, like thing, and then
(30:23):
when we do the basement we canhave the projector down there.
And so I'm trying to convincemyself.
My cousin's like just do it,it's normally $140.
Right now it's 90.
Like okay.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Oh, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Hell yeah, dude, I ordered it.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Hey yeah of course.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So then here's the thing, though.
Then later on that day, I sawthat one of my favorite artists
she's one of my favoritephotographers she posted a like
a memory session of this girlwho lost her dad, and they did
this really cool thing with aprojector.
And I totally caught that itwas a projector, but I my brain
didn't like put the two and twotogether.
(30:56):
Yeah, so my daughter waswriting a car like a father's
day card to her dad, whichtotally tugged at my
heartstrings.
Her dad had passed away, andwhat they did was they did.
They set up the projector sothat it almost looked like her
dad was sitting on the otherside of the table with her.
They like took a photo of himand he was sitting in the photo,
(31:18):
so they had it like almost likeon the chair.
So she's across the tablewriting like basically like a
thank you to her dad foreverything that he did for her.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
And then on the other side, you know his hologram
kind of, and I was like, oh myGod, that's so cool.
You know, like I I almost likeI wish I thought of that right
Cause now if I do it it'scopying somebody else's idea,
but like that's freaking awesome.
So then later on in the in thesession they had, she had these
awesome photos of this of thisgirl and it had like a spotlight
(31:48):
that was like it almost likecovered half of her face, but it
was so the cutoff was sointense that I was like how did
they do that?
You know, and of course I hadjust seen the dad on the
projector and stuff, but like Ididn't put the two into.
So I'm like, how did they dothat?
And then I look up and like,brushing my teeth getting ready
to go to a session, and I lookup on YouTube like DIY
(32:09):
photographer, spotlight hard cutor something like that, because
the way that the light cut onher face was like so cool and
the guy goes well, the firstthing you're going to need is a
projector and I was like, oh myGod, the universe just wanted
you to have this projector.
I know I did, but it was reallycool.
I'm going to have to, I'm goingto have to send you the series,
(32:31):
like the set Cause I was like Iwas just amazed.
It was like painfully beautiful, but it was something that I
hadn't really seen with someonewho had lost someone and did a
memory session.
So, listen, I got a projector,I'm ready to play, but I just
thought that was, I know Ithought that was really funny.
I was like I'm going to have aprojector.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It's probably in the mail.
You timed that perfectly.
The universe made the rightchoice, helped you push into
that projector.
So glad you got that.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, so so stay tuned, you'll see some projector
photos.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Hey, nice.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
But anyway, that's all I got so.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Perfect, all right, we'll talk next week.
Okay, bye, guys, bye, bye, bye,bye, bye, bye.
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