August 29, 2023 • 34 mins
Did you ever imagine that a sudden shower on your wedding day could become a unique, creative experience? Ever considered that the clouds covering your special day might actually result in some of the most stunning photographs you've ever seen? We invite you into our chat about the unconventional charm of a rainy wedding day. From our own experience on a surprisingly chilly wedding day, we share the tricks and tools to embrace and weather-proof your big day, with a special focus on how to prepare your mindset and your guests.
We delve into the exciting world of weather-induced wedding photography, sharing insights on the different styles, lens choices and techniques that can be utilized during overcast conditions to capture beautiful memories. We also share a glimpse into how to make the most of a rainy day engagement session, and the joy of having an adventurous couple willing to brave the elements. And yes, we also talk about your footwear! You'll be surprised at how a pair of funky boots or cute wellies can make your photographs pop.
Wrapping things up, we discuss how to manage any unexpected weather situations on your wedding day. From having a bunch of umbrellas handy, to considering alternative footwear, and adding a note in your invites for guests to dress accordingly; it's all about anticipating and preparing. And just in case you're wondering, we also touch on the age-old belief about rain on your wedding day being a sign of good luck. So get ready to dance in the rain on your big day, and follow Brooke on Instagram for some spooky DIYs, and Chris for some great tips on photography, Lens and Light.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, you're listening to part two of the BS
podcast.
If you did not catch part oneof this week's episode, go ahead
and hit that back buttontowards the previous episode.
Otherwise, we look forward toseeing you there.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Do we internally?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
potentially wish because just simply because it's
easier, which is not it's.
That's not an acceptable answer, but it is what it is.
It's a little easier to dealwith a non-rainy day because now
I have spots picked out at thelocation.
Good to go like.
I don't, I don't have thisoutside variable to worry about.
Right, the hardest days of theones where it is Gonna rain or
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is it, mac?
And that's that's the onethat's like I almost would wish
it just just do it, just figureit out so that I can do my job,
please.
But but when I, on thephotographer side, get over real
quick okay, this isn't about menot making it easier, let's do
something really fun with thisand cool and it you going into
that mindset as the bride orgroom that you know this is
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gonna be okay, I'm just gonnaembrace this and my photographer
knows what they're doing andwe're just gonna, you know,
obviously, if you want to,before the ceremony, make sure
your hair stays intact and allof those things and that's
important to you.
You know we can, we'll workaround that and and make it work
.
But at some point you'reprobably just gonna want to let
loose and just kind of open up,and that is totally a mindset
(01:19):
thing.
It applies to so many differentthings in life, like the
mindset is everything.
If you.
Continue to say out loud toyourself this sucks, this sucks.
Well, yeah, it's probably gonnasuck, it's well you're not
gonna have a good time if yousay out loud to yourself this is
okay, we're gonna get somephotos that not a lot of people
have the opportunity to get.
On our wedding day, you knowTotally different.
(01:39):
You're gonna go into it so muchhappier and you're gonna look
happier in your photos too.
So definitely.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's like one of the biggest things that I see is
that, like when I can tell whenmy clients are stressed because
of the looks on their faces,like I could tell I, I it.
Just it creates a wholedifferent.
If you feel Anxiety, if youfeel regret, if you feel any of
those things, like it willtransfer to your photos.
So if you can, just if you'regonna have a rainy wedding day
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and you weren't expecting it,and if you can just take a
second in the morning and justkind of think to yourself, like
if this is the worst part of theday, it'll be fine.
Yep, like it'll be okay, it'sjust a little water.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And what I would even encourage people to do is, when
you're thinking about having a,when you're thinking about
talking to a photographer, whynot ask for some rainy galleries
?
Why not?
Let's just see what your, whatyour work looked like on that
day, so that you have a reallygood representation and you can
see.
I mean I tell all of my clients, you know, I've got those
umbrellas ready, I'm ready to golike don't worry about it, not
a big deal.
(02:43):
But I think until people haveseen the rainy, the rainy day
photos with those cute, clearumbrellas and they can actually
get it up, a really good feeland taste for the vibe of what
their photos might look like.
I think once they see thosephotos, they're like, okay, yeah
, no problem, we're all good.
But if you don't ask and youdon't know what to expect out of
your rainy wedding day andyou're like, well, I had this
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very specific, very sunny, very,you know, breezy Idea in my
mind of what this wedding daywas gonna be, of course your
expectations are gonna be alittle bit like I Don't know
what to expect from this.
So I think, talking to yourphotographer, do you think that
that's a good idea to talkingand asking for a rainy gallery,
just so that they can see.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Absolutely yeah.
I think you should ask anythingthat comes to mind that you're.
Whatever your fears are, youshould be asking that Because
you don't want to wait till thelast minute.
So if you're concerned aboutrain or you just simply want to
see it either way, that's acompletely fair question To see
a rainy day.
And now I'm thinking to myselfokay, what would early Chris do,
who didn't have thatopportunity yet to shoot a
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wedding in the rain?
Like, and you're like, oh, Ihaven't done that yet, which you
know, that's just an experiencething.
Now I'm in my head thinkinglike is there a way to set up a,
a flexible styled shoot that'sfor a rainy day?
That would be really cool.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It would be.
Just see those, yeah, somebodystanding to the side with their
thumb over the hose so that itlooks like a, like a big rainy.
All I would need is a cloudyday.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You know it just can't be clear, can't be sunny.
You know the way we could dothis, but if there was a way you
could do and it doesn't have tobe a full, you know, table top
with all the trimming, you know,I'm just looking for a bride
and groom, or groom and groom,bride and bride Shoot, to do
Something in that resembles arainy day.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's something, that's a little hard to find.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Now I'm thinking about it.
So I know they've happened, butI don't see it often, so right.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So the other thing that I was thinking about was
talking about, I mean, I Know itsounds stupid to say it out
loud, but because you know youplan for every part of your day,
right, but having a backup plan, having a A choosing a venue
that has and you're, this iscoming from a chick All right,
who planned my entire, all right, who planned my entire wedding
(05:02):
day outside under fairy lights,basically, like I didn't.
It's not that I didn't have abackup option when we originally
Started to plan our wedding.
Our backup option was we'regonna finish the basement and if
we have to pull a really longtable into the basement, we're
gonna make it look how we wantit to look and that will be our
rain plan.
And then Chad broke hiscollarbone so we didn't get to.
(05:27):
We didn't really get to Finishour backup plan.
So you're, you're hearingadvice from a chick whose backup
plan was literally Piled those35 people into the living room
and hope for the best, like thatwas.
But it didn't really matter tome because my venue was my home
and it felt like no matter wherethis wedding takes place on
this property, even if it is inmy living room and people are
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cramped, that is gonna be okayto me.
So, choosing a venue that has avery, very Ideal backup plan
for you.
You know, planning for alloutside is all fun and games
until your almost husband breakshis collarbone no, yeah, that's
(06:11):
, but if you're, okay.
Yeah, he went on a mountainbiking trip like two months
before our wedding day.
Small little thing, and hecalled me on the first run and
was like, yeah, I went off ajump way too high.
It was like nice.
And I knew too.
I planned a day to go to thebeach because I knew I would
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just be like worried all day,like he's like he did this thing
and he's like I've beenmountain biking since I was a
kid and I'm like, okay, butwe've been dating for six years
and like I've never seen you doit, so like, so I planned the
whole day to not have to thinkabout him on the bike and then
he called me on the first runand was like I'm going to the
hospital, yeah, so, basically,having choosing a venue, not
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only for their outdoor plan,outdoor plans are great, outdoor
ceremonies are awesome, butmake sure that you're
comfortable with what that rainplan would also look like.
And if it means that you haveto spend more money on your
venue, I mean, we say this allthe time your venue is the vibe
of your photos.
So if, worst case scenario, wehave to pile into your venue,
make sure that as you're touringthese venues, you ask what is
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the rain plan?
And you look at that space andgo, okay, is there enough light?
Do I like the background?
What does it look like?
Because I can almost guaranteeyou that if you have a, if
you're planning on having anoutdoor ceremony at a place that
only has a?
And it's going to sound bad forme to say this, but generally
banquet halls are not the best.
(07:41):
They don't have the bestlighting, that's not like high
ceilings.
I've seen ones that are theexception and not the rule, but
let's say that it was, like youknow, kind of an ugly banquet
hall and they're like that's therain plan, but it doesn't
usually rain in September, orwhatever they want to feed you
to get it booked.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Right, if you hear yeah, it doesn't usually rain,
it's like it's like it's gonnarain whenever it wants to rain.
Whenever it wants to.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's correct, yeah, so there's no amount of work
that your florist can do on incertain banquet halls or certain
rooms.
That's going to make it lookideally what you would want it
to look like for your ceremony.
So just remembering your venueis the vibe, and planning for
the rainy day is actuallysmarter than planning for the
outdoor day.
I almost do this thing whereit's like expect nothing and
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then you won't be disappointed.
You know, like plan for the rain, it's gonna happen.
And then when it's a sunny day,you're like, wow, this is
amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
This is amazing your wedding book.
If I recall, we were talkingabout the weather before your
wedding, like two weeksbeforehand.
I remember talking about thisand going like.
I recall the concern wasactually like super cold.
I think that's what it was likea cold outbreak that I kept
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seeing in the models and waslike I don't think you have to
worry about rain, you got toworry about it being chilly and
you're like you have to worryabout your guests freezing.
It was chilly but it wasn't ascold as it could have been.
I think, is what it ended upbeing.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
No, and I'll say you know, in the world of things
happen as they happen and justyou just have to kind of go with
it.
We had a pretty cold day.
We did For our entire ourwedding setup was everybody
outside the whole night.
It was in the end of October.
(09:34):
We knew it was probably goingto be cold, but we didn't know
it was going to be as cold as itwas.
It ended up getting down to, Ithink, in the late 40s during
the nighttime portion, but theday itself was like a high of
like 63.
So when you're used it is, butwhen you're used to the summer
(09:55):
and, like you know, I'm in abackless dress, I was like I'm
freezing dude.
So we ended up getting like hothands for everybody.
We ordered blankets, thingslike that.
So it worked out, but we didhave complaints.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
We had complaints about how cold it was and it's
like sorry, separateconversation that there's always
going to be complaintspotentially so, and then you
kind of or rainy or cold or hot,yeah, so you know, but we had
our wedding day and it wasreasonably cold, and then the
very next day it was sunny and75.
And I was like I remember, I doremember that, yeah, you were
(10:32):
the peak, yeah you were thecleanup crew.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
The cleanup crew, me, chad well, hardly me, I was out
of commission Chad and I thinkjust Chad he got a really nice
day to clean up, but our weddingday was like really, really
cold, and it's just.
It is what it is.
It's the day and you make themost of it, and if you have to
wrap yourself in a blanket, youhave to be underneath an
umbrella, no problem, you know,your photographer most likely is
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prepared, your venue mostlikely is prepared, unless
you're getting married at yourhouse, like we were, but making
the most of whatever situationweather-wise is like.
Also, I love an overcastsession.
People are like I just want asunny and I'm like, okay, I get
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it, I totally get it.
You want the flares, you wantthe sun, you want all of that.
But the lighting in an overcastsession is like perfect.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So funny too with overcast sessions, because the
style of my photography I'venoticed changes pending, which
it should, but I I definitelylean into different.
I mean even my the lenses thatI use, pending whether it's
overcast or sunny.
I notice going through myphotos that I definitely I lean
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into one versus the other whenthose weather variables are in
there.
So when it's overcast I tend todo a lot more wide shots.
That's what I just captured.
And when it's sunny and I wantthe flares, I tend to get a
little bit closer and there's norhyme or reason other than
super interesting.
Just what feels right in themoment, what feels right in the
moment.
Yeah, and I'm always happy withthe photos.
(12:12):
I'm really good with what weget.
I always provide a variety andthere's not all wide shots or
all close ups, but I just tendto look at my favorites from
those, and it's always thecloudy, overcast ones.
You can get some really goodcouples, separated pretty far
from the camera, black and white, even outdoors, cause sometimes
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the black and white during asunny day with foliage is a lot
of things going on.
And even with it it's all over,but on an overcast day it's a
lot easier on the eyes and Ialways tend to love those.
I'm just going into talkingabout photos now.
So you are correct from me,overcast is underrated, but I
will say that I think a lot ofpeople are catching on to it,
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cause I have had a lot ofconversations in the past year
with couples who go like, oh,isn't a cloudy day better?
So I think they know, I thinkthey just deep down, they want
that sunny that still exists,that like they want that sunny
day.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But the overcast you can do so much with.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I think so too.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So another really good tip to have is I know it's
the ceremony right, it's theceremony that everybody wants
outside.
For the most part, receptionsare moving into a hall, they're
moving into a room, somethinglike that, and the weather
doesn't really matter at thatpoint.
It's the ceremony that peoplereally want in the pictures that
they want outside.
So, just like we said, havingthe umbrellas for your portraits
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, which are always so cute, andhaving enough for the bridal
party in the groomsmen.
So the other thing too is thatI don't know a single
photographer who wouldn't bewilling and it's more about the
venue making sure that theguests are OK I don't know a
single photographer who wouldn'tbe willing to have an umbrella
over them and have you standingup at your ceremony with
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umbrellas, having yourbridesmaids and your groomsmen
kind of holding one in front ofthe maid of honor, holds it over
the bride, and then the personbehind her holds it behind her,
and then the person and the lastperson has two umbrellas so
that the bride and the groom canstill stand together.
I've actually had a wedding thatthat happened, where it started
to downpour and I was likealmost Like I was prepared, I
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had all of my umbrellas.
But when it really started Imean it poured in the middle of
this ceremony and all of theguests are getting wet and
they're taking out their ownumbrellas and I just I handed
out an umbrella to each of thebridesmaids and groomsmen so
they could hold it over thebride.
And then the following.
So worst case scenario, if youreally need to have your
ceremony outside and it's anon-negotiable before you even
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book your venue, make sure thatthat's something that they are
OK with doing, because a lot ofvenues won't do that.
They'll wait until the verylast second and then, if it
looks like it's going to rain,they would rather the guests be
comfortable, which I totallyunderstand too, but for me, I
would assume, as a guest, if Ithink the wedding is going to be
rainy, I would bring my ownumbrella.
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I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So yeah, I mean, just like, anywhere you go, all
right You're kind of responsiblefor your own.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Right your own comfort.
If you know the ceremony you'llbe outdoor, you should bring.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
yeah, you shouldn't get upset if the venue's not
providing you an umbrella or ajacket, so I haven't run into
that.
But it is funny you say thatbecause I do go to weddings.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Wow, I do go to weddings I do the wedding, I do
the wedding.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
And there's a lot of people that don't bring
umbrellas and are shocked whenit starts raining.
So I don't know if they'regetting ready and they just
don't look or don't care butthat is funny that you mentioned
that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It's something that maybe people should put on their
invite, like outdoor ceremony,rain or shine.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Maybe, that would be an option of just being rain or
shine, Please bring the properattire for an outdoor ceremony.
If that was something that wasreally important to you and you
said to your venue before yousent out your invites like, if I
put that on my invite, is thatgoing to be something that you
can also accommodate or is itsomething where I mean, I don't
know if it's like a hazard issueof having people out in the
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rain and all of that, but that'salso an option, because some of
me was like I don't know, Iwould hope that people would
just show up wearing.
If it's a rainy day, you're notgoing to like show up and
almost nothing and have nocoverage, right?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I would think and I'm way too sarcastic to like think
this seriously.
I think I'm thinking of theinvitation that I would send
them to be like if it rains.
You know, your screwed asshole,I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Tell you something like that Go home, go home.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Don't bring a jacket.
Good luck, that's it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
This is a full-size wedding only if it's sunny.
If not, it's intimate, andyou're this if you're receiving
this invite.
You're only invited if it's asunny day, oh my gosh.
But that is an option to say toyour guests before anything,
even I think that's fair.
We're having an outdoor ceremony, rain or shine, please dress
accordingly.
I've never seen it on an invite, but I do think it's a good
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idea If that is like anon-negotiable for you as a
bride and you're like I wantthose rainy photos even if it's
rainy.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
We're going to want those outdoor photos.
Even You're invited to ourwedding.
Be an adult, take care ofyourself.
That's pretty much it.
We're not, we're not.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
We're going to feed you, but I do understand how
parents would be like no, butthey're coming to your wedding
and they're bringing a gift andyou have to make them
comfortable.
I do understand that too.
But if you kind of prep themfor, like, we're going to be
outside, rain or shine, likeit's up to you, then okay.
So that is something that Ialso was thinking about.
I had another one.
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It was on the tip of my tongue.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I was going to say do you have a?
Do you have a in thephotographer realm?
Do you have any other?
Well, I'll switch it the clientrealm.
Do you have any tips for yourclients for, we'll say, an
engagement session?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
So for the engagement session, I mean, I tend to do
this thing.
I usually urge people to notcancel their session if it's
rainy, but for an engagementsession, I feel like you can't
choose your weather.
Like your wedding weather, youcan't choose it.
So for the engagement session,I am a little more lenient about
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weather.
If you're hoping for a sunsetfor your engagement session and
I'm like I swear rainy photoswould be so beautiful today and
and they're just like no, thisis really like our vision.
I tend to err on the side of Iwill let the engagement sessions
reschedule, and it's usuallywhat they want to do.
Yep, do you see the same thing?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, I do.
I almost worded it exactly.
I always tell everyone you know, but exactly that I say you.
You don't get to pick yourwedding weather.
So for the engagement sessionwe do have that availability, as
long as I have the availability.
So I'll be honest with myschedule and I'll be as flexible
as I can.
So if you don't really it isbecause there's a lot of people
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that don't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So it's like nope rain or shine.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
It's one of those things where I yeah and just
it's.
I want to see you happy withyour photos, so I want to set
the expectations up.
Really good for what you expectfrom me For your wedding day.
So if you're not happy with therainy day engagement session,
I'm like, well, suck it up.
It's kind of crappy of me.
So yeah but it depends on whoyou hire.
So and what they're what they're, you know prerogative.
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So that's a good question toask on the client end to your
photographer before you signthem.
So how do you handle engagementsessions in rain?
It's always a good right.
I try my best to get thatacross beforehand.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Also having an alternative, alternative pair of
shoes for your wedding day.
If it's going to be rainy, Iwould err on the side of.
I mean, I think it is so coolwhen brides have like I.
Actually, for one of my rainywedding days, I brought my
hunter boots for me to wear andthen I was like you should put
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these on like this would lookreally good with your dress,
yeah and she wore my hunterboots and they were like the
green hunter boots in the In,like like this would see, it was
at the Pavilion on Crystal Lake, so it was like woodsy and it
had like the rainy day vibe, butshe was wearing the boots, so
it's kind of like adventurebride.
I was like, ooh, I will totallyget my my toes wet so that you
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can wear my rain boots in yourphotos, but I think it would be
a really, really good idea forevery single bride to get a pair
.
I mean, use it as a yes, yourexcuse, you're gonna buy what
$600 wedding shoes anyway.
Get yourself a nice pair ofrain boots that also you could
throw on underneath your dressso that you're not ruining your
$400.
(20:45):
What is it?
Lawfler Randall, I bought the,the bootleg version of them for
$40, so I don't know actuallycalled but.
But.
But, yeah, get something whereit's okay.
If you have to, you know, wecan lift up your dress and we
can take you to the area thatyou need to be photographed in.
But footwear, you know, unlessyou want to kick off your shoes
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and be barefoot, which is alsoan option in the rain and very
fun, you know, but like good melook at it as an opportunity.
Buy yourself those rain boots orkick off the shoes and have the
really fun barefoot rainyphotos.
Yep you know it's and it's sofunny because I think when
people think about it, theydon't think that it's like like
when I say it I'm like, oh mygod, that's so fun, you know.
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I think, barefoot rainy daywedding photos, that's awesome.
But then I think, when you're abride and you're thinking about
your hair and your makeup andyou're thinking about your shoes
that you Spend so much money onlike, it's so easy to be like,
but that's not what I want, youknow.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
But if you just open your mind.
Yeah, it's the open.
What could be fun?
you know, so make sure you got aeither your, your partner, or a
Bridesmaid or a maid of honor,a matron of honor, somebody who
can help you with that.
That would be good, that's likethat's a good, that's that's a
good made of honor, a major anda minor that can not just be
there for you Physically butlike a little little mentally,
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to just like help you get in thezone.
If you're locked into thatbecause there's, you don't have
a lot of time to think on yourwedding day.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You are so overwhelmed and not.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Exhausted.
You're just exhausted as theclock.
You're exhausted as the persongetting married it's you know.
You want to let Let low lay lay.
I want to say lay low, Letloose and just just let your
vendors take care of you andenjoy your family.
You don't want to makedecisions, and that's ooh.
That's a good conversationpoint too, and that took me a
while to get used to waslearning real quick decision
(22:40):
overload yes we got to tow thatline of our Whatever, whatever
it is from the photo world, youknow do you want?
to do this thing.
Here are a couple options.
We only have so much time.
Which one would you rather do?
And there's a time and place toask that and you have to know
your couple.
This is when knowing yourcouple is really helpful, and
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Knowing when their decisionfatigue has already kicked in
and you're like I just got tomake this call.
Right and they're gonna be okaywith that.
So there's, that's a.
That's a fun conversation point.
This is you as the bride.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, so you can actually.
I mean, I have asked people inour final phone call like if I
have to make a decision, do youtrust the decision that I make,
like based off of how the day isgoing, or is there somebody in
your bridal party that you Trustwith your vision?
So if I have a question thatmight seem relatively stupid,
but I need to know it, I can askyour maid of honor.
I can say you know, did youguys discuss this, this type of
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thing, what do you think thatshe would prefer?
So kind of putting somebody incharge of all those decisions
and having a really clearConversation with that person
beforehand so that they know.
Okay, if this comes up, this iswhat we're doing.
I think that that is likeAlmost like invaluable to have
somebody At your wedding daythat basically knows all of the
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decisions that you would make,so that your vendors can go to
them instead of you.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I love this conversation too, because this
is the as with any job it's.
It's hard to to talk about thisstuff.
It's hard to present this inlike a summary of what is a
wedding photographer or what youknow.
Whatever your job is, like youknow we do, employers are trying
to get it in a summary and thisis such a very like Specific
(24:22):
conversation point that youcan't talk about anywhere else
other than just you and Italking about it right now.
That it's it.
This comes down to experience,like dealing with and knowing.
Okay, this is another checklistitem.
That's not a.
It's not a.
Do I have my camera gear?
It's not a.
Do I have my lens?
Do I have the umbrellas?
It's a.
Oh.
Do I Understand who is thecontact person for specifically
(24:43):
Knowing the brighter groom'svision?
Who's the decision-maker?
And then how do I know when tomake the call and when to have
somebody else make the call?
Like that's such, a, such aspecific piece, but it's, it's
such an important part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Right, because, for the most part, you want to think
.
You want to.
I mean, we talk to our clientsin depth about what is important
to them versus what isn't.
So you want to think toyourself I know what they want,
I know the vision that they have.
Yeah, spoke myself in the ear,I know the vision that they have
, but I just I need to get thatlittle bit of.
Somebody else had a part in thisdecision too.
(25:18):
If there's something that yourbride and your groom really
wanted to be a part of their dayand it just very much is
looking like it's not going tohappen, and you think in your
head I know them well enough tomake this decision, I'm just
gonna confirm with thebridesmaid, I'm just gonna
confirm with X person that theyput in charge of knowing their
vision.
It just gives you that littlebit of like.
(25:39):
I Mean you hope that you'reconfident in making that
decision, but to have somebodyalso go, yes, I think that
that's what they would want.
You know it's like okay, allright, let's move forward.
Because for the most part, ifyou're like me, I feel like I
know, I've talked to my brideand groom, I know what's
important and if something isn'tgonna happen.
I just I already know it'sgonna be okay.
(26:00):
I just need to confirm it.
Otherwise, we need to push thatthing if they're like no, no,
no, that was something that theyreally, really, really had to
have, and they didn't quiteexpress that to me.
In the same way, I need to knowthat you.
Couldn't send me that's you arecorrect so I think To kind of,
and do you have any more?
(26:20):
Because I was just gonna wrapit up with a little.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I think wrapping it up would be good awesome.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So I think the key points to take away from this
episode as far as rainy dayweddings is Talk to your
photographer beforehand, whichis most.
I mean, most of the advice thatwe give you on this podcast is
like talk to your photographer.
Talk to your photographerbeforehand, not only about the
wedding day, about weddinggalleries that they've shot
before, about you know the rainyday Engagement schedule, what
(26:47):
that looks like and what youroptions are there.
Ask them if they have.
You know umbrellas to beprovided, and don't ever look
down on a photographer If theydon't provide them.
I think that that's.
It is a lot to bring 10-12.
Umbrella.
Usually one of my arms is likestick straight and I'm like yeah
, somebody take these from me,please.
We already yes, we already haveso much on our plate that I
(27:09):
could understand why aphotographer wouldn't
necessarily want to keep thosein their car and have to do the
run back and forth.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
But but you're gonna say you should ask them ahead of
time.
That's the part that you shouldknow.
Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yes, don't ever judge .
If they don't, they're notobligated to.
Everybody works differently.
Chris and I happen to be twophotographers that feel
similarly on this, that we wouldrather have them than not.
But ask if they do.
If they don't Order that bulkpack and if you don't need them,
send them back.
That's that's like my bestadvice.
(27:44):
Grab some umbrellas, grab a, anAlternative shoe choice.
Ask your venue about their rainplan and be very, very, very
Aware of what happens with therain plan.
Don't do the thing of closingyour eyes and crossing your
fingers and hoping it won'thappen, because if it does
happen, it will change theentirety of your wedding vibe.
(28:06):
Also, if you wanted to addsomething on your invitations,
I'm just kind of going througheverything that we had chatted
about briefly so that it's likeone little list here.
Do?
it adding something, addingsomething to your Invitations.
This is happening rain or shine.
There will be outdoor portionsof this day.
Please dress accordingly.
If it's raining, please bringan umbrella.
(28:27):
It can even.
It doesn't have to be like onyour invite.
It can be like a little likeinsert, like this is happening
outside, whether you like it ornot, you don't like it.
Rsvp no.
You know, Exactly, but I think,the most important piece of this
entire if you take anythingaway from this, and I think that
it's Important to think aboutrain or shine Take that five
(28:50):
minutes in the very beginning ofyour day, before you talk to
anybody, before you see anybody,before your photographer says
hello.
Just take that five minuteswith your coffee and definitely
some water.
Are you taking a picture?
Gotta do a photo.
This is the the photo for thesocials that we're recording
right now Like the little pauseand definitely some water and
(29:12):
try, try to do this thing ofOkay, it's raining on the
wedding day, we've planned,we've prepared, we know what's
happening.
It's not exactly my vision, butit's not about this one day and
if this is the one wrench thatwe have, it's okay.
Plus, I don't know if you saw,but our poll Says that most
(29:34):
people think that rain on yourwedding day is actually good
luck.
I Was surprised to see that wemight get we might get more good
luck actually no, it's a clear5050 right now.
Oh.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Oh shit yeah no, it's a clear 5050.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So Jury's out on whether or not it's good luck,
but I've heard that it's good.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Okay, I'm pushing that into the good no one thinks
it, but anyway it's.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's all about the mindset that you approach your
day with.
Whether it's rain or shine, itjust is what it is.
Take five minutes in themorning.
Try to just turn it so that youcan be excited for your day.
No matter what it looks like,there will be a wrench and if
rain is it, there's nothing youcan do about it.
It's just weather.
It's just weather.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But just weather.
But you could learn more aboutthe weather if you want to be
prepared.
We went right into.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
That was perfect, my cousin my cousin who's not even
on Instagram anymore because Itold her to follow you.
She literally every timethere's like a bad storm coming,
she goes.
What does your buddy Chris say?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
What is?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
because she's she decided she's done with socials.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So she's like hey, I'm just checking in, like what
he says, just checking in, Ineed to somehow and not social,
post somewhere that she canvisit.
I know, I Know it's hard withupdated information.
It's hard like weatherinformation is literally only
applicable in the moment.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
So it's an email if you do like an email channel.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But if they only see it.
Even if they see it a few hoursafter it's posted, it's it's
old news, it's already on news.
That's that's the tricky partabout weather info.
There's actually a term forthis.
I forget what it's called, butit's information that has an
expiration.
That's almost immediate andthat makes it tricky, depending
the platform that you're puttingthe.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I know the word you're trying.
I can't think of it.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You would know this, as the marketing guru over here
who went went to school for this.
There there is a term and Ican't think of it.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's almost like instantaneous.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Don't know, yep which is why I come to me as soon as
we get off of this.
And it's already old news, soit doesn't matter, that's there
it is.
It mattered for like twoseconds I can certainly done.
Yeah, boring old, let's yeah Ifyou liked this conversation.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Do we internally?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
potentially wish because just simply because it's
easier, which is not it's.
That's not an acceptable answer, but it is what it is.
It's a little easier to dealwith a non-rainy day because now
I have spots picked out at thelocation.
Good to go like.
I don't, I don't have thisoutside variable to worry about.
Right, the hardest days of theones where it is Gonna rain or
(00:33):
is it, mac?
And that's that's the onethat's like I almost would wish
it just just do it, just figureit out so that I can do my job,
please.
But but when I, on thephotographer side, get over real
quick okay, this isn't about menot making it easier, let's do
something really fun with thisand cool and it you going into
that mindset as the bride orgroom that you know this is
(00:56):
gonna be okay, I'm just gonnaembrace this and my photographer
knows what they're doing andwe're just gonna, you know,
obviously, if you want to,before the ceremony, make sure
your hair stays intact and allof those things and that's
important to you.
You know we can, we'll workaround that and and make it work
.
But at some point you'reprobably just gonna want to let
loose and just kind of open up,and that is totally a mindset
(01:19):
thing.
It applies to so many differentthings in life, like the
mindset is everything.
If you.
Continue to say out loud toyourself this sucks, this sucks.
Well, yeah, it's probably gonnasuck, it's well you're not
gonna have a good time if yousay out loud to yourself this is
okay, we're gonna get somephotos that not a lot of people
have the opportunity to get.
On our wedding day, you knowTotally different.
(01:39):
You're gonna go into it so muchhappier and you're gonna look
happier in your photos too.
So definitely.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That's like one of the biggest things that I see is
that, like when I can tell whenmy clients are stressed because
of the looks on their faces,like I could tell I, I it.
Just it creates a wholedifferent.
If you feel Anxiety, if youfeel regret, if you feel any of
those things, like it willtransfer to your photos.
So if you can, just if you'regonna have a rainy wedding day
(02:08):
and you weren't expecting it,and if you can just take a
second in the morning and justkind of think to yourself, like
if this is the worst part of theday, it'll be fine.
Yep, like it'll be okay, it'sjust a little water.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
And what I would even encourage people to do is, when
you're thinking about having a,when you're thinking about
talking to a photographer, whynot ask for some rainy galleries
?
Why not?
Let's just see what your, whatyour work looked like on that
day, so that you have a reallygood representation and you can
see.
I mean I tell all of my clients, you know, I've got those
umbrellas ready, I'm ready to golike don't worry about it, not
a big deal.
(02:43):
But I think until people haveseen the rainy, the rainy day
photos with those cute, clearumbrellas and they can actually
get it up, a really good feeland taste for the vibe of what
their photos might look like.
I think once they see thosephotos, they're like, okay, yeah
, no problem, we're all good.
But if you don't ask and youdon't know what to expect out of
your rainy wedding day andyou're like, well, I had this
(03:04):
very specific, very sunny, very,you know, breezy Idea in my
mind of what this wedding daywas gonna be, of course your
expectations are gonna be alittle bit like I Don't know
what to expect from this.
So I think, talking to yourphotographer, do you think that
that's a good idea to talkingand asking for a rainy gallery,
just so that they can see.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Absolutely yeah.
I think you should ask anythingthat comes to mind that you're.
Whatever your fears are, youshould be asking that Because
you don't want to wait till thelast minute.
So if you're concerned aboutrain or you just simply want to
see it either way, that's acompletely fair question To see
a rainy day.
And now I'm thinking to myselfokay, what would early Chris do,
who didn't have thatopportunity yet to shoot a
(03:45):
wedding in the rain?
Like, and you're like, oh, Ihaven't done that yet, which you
know, that's just an experiencething.
Now I'm in my head thinkinglike is there a way to set up a,
a flexible styled shoot that'sfor a rainy day?
That would be really cool.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It would be.
Just see those, yeah, somebodystanding to the side with their
thumb over the hose so that itlooks like a, like a big rainy.
All I would need is a cloudyday.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You know it just can't be clear, can't be sunny.
You know the way we could dothis, but if there was a way you
could do and it doesn't have tobe a full, you know, table top
with all the trimming, you know,I'm just looking for a bride
and groom, or groom and groom,bride and bride Shoot, to do
Something in that resembles arainy day.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's something, that's a little hard to find.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Now I'm thinking about it.
So I know they've happened, butI don't see it often, so right.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So the other thing that I was thinking about was
talking about, I mean, I Know itsounds stupid to say it out
loud, but because you know youplan for every part of your day,
right, but having a backup plan, having a A choosing a venue
that has and you're, this iscoming from a chick All right,
who planned my entire, all right, who planned my entire wedding
(05:02):
day outside under fairy lights,basically, like I didn't.
It's not that I didn't have abackup option when we originally
Started to plan our wedding.
Our backup option was we'regonna finish the basement and if
we have to pull a really longtable into the basement, we're
gonna make it look how we wantit to look and that will be our
rain plan.
And then Chad broke hiscollarbone so we didn't get to.
(05:27):
We didn't really get to Finishour backup plan.
So you're, you're hearingadvice from a chick whose backup
plan was literally Piled those35 people into the living room
and hope for the best, like thatwas.
But it didn't really matter tome because my venue was my home
and it felt like no matter wherethis wedding takes place on
this property, even if it is inmy living room and people are
(05:50):
cramped, that is gonna be okayto me.
So, choosing a venue that has avery, very Ideal backup plan
for you.
You know, planning for alloutside is all fun and games
until your almost husband breakshis collarbone no, yeah, that's
(06:11):
, but if you're, okay.
Yeah, he went on a mountainbiking trip like two months
before our wedding day.
Small little thing, and hecalled me on the first run and
was like, yeah, I went off ajump way too high.
It was like nice.
And I knew too.
I planned a day to go to thebeach because I knew I would
(06:32):
just be like worried all day,like he's like he did this thing
and he's like I've beenmountain biking since I was a
kid and I'm like, okay, butwe've been dating for six years
and like I've never seen you doit, so like, so I planned the
whole day to not have to thinkabout him on the bike and then
he called me on the first runand was like I'm going to the
hospital, yeah, so, basically,having choosing a venue, not
(06:56):
only for their outdoor plan,outdoor plans are great, outdoor
ceremonies are awesome, butmake sure that you're
comfortable with what that rainplan would also look like.
And if it means that you haveto spend more money on your
venue, I mean, we say this allthe time your venue is the vibe
of your photos.
So if, worst case scenario, wehave to pile into your venue,
make sure that as you're touringthese venues, you ask what is
(07:20):
the rain plan?
And you look at that space andgo, okay, is there enough light?
Do I like the background?
What does it look like?
Because I can almost guaranteeyou that if you have a, if
you're planning on having anoutdoor ceremony at a place that
only has a?
And it's going to sound bad forme to say this, but generally
banquet halls are not the best.
(07:41):
They don't have the bestlighting, that's not like high
ceilings.
I've seen ones that are theexception and not the rule, but
let's say that it was, like youknow, kind of an ugly banquet
hall and they're like that's therain plan, but it doesn't
usually rain in September, orwhatever they want to feed you
to get it booked.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Right, if you hear yeah, it doesn't usually rain,
it's like it's like it's gonnarain whenever it wants to rain.
Whenever it wants to.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's correct, yeah, so there's no amount of work
that your florist can do on incertain banquet halls or certain
rooms.
That's going to make it lookideally what you would want it
to look like for your ceremony.
So just remembering your venueis the vibe, and planning for
the rainy day is actuallysmarter than planning for the
outdoor day.
I almost do this thing whereit's like expect nothing and
(08:28):
then you won't be disappointed.
You know, like plan for the rain, it's gonna happen.
And then when it's a sunny day,you're like, wow, this is
amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
This is amazing your wedding book.
If I recall, we were talkingabout the weather before your
wedding, like two weeksbeforehand.
I remember talking about thisand going like.
I recall the concern wasactually like super cold.
I think that's what it was likea cold outbreak that I kept
(08:58):
seeing in the models and waslike I don't think you have to
worry about rain, you got toworry about it being chilly and
you're like you have to worryabout your guests freezing.
It was chilly but it wasn't ascold as it could have been.
I think, is what it ended upbeing.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
No, and I'll say you know, in the world of things
happen as they happen and justyou just have to kind of go with
it.
We had a pretty cold day.
We did For our entire ourwedding setup was everybody
outside the whole night.
It was in the end of October.
(09:34):
We knew it was probably goingto be cold, but we didn't know
it was going to be as cold as itwas.
It ended up getting down to, Ithink, in the late 40s during
the nighttime portion, but theday itself was like a high of
like 63.
So when you're used it is, butwhen you're used to the summer
(09:55):
and, like you know, I'm in abackless dress, I was like I'm
freezing dude.
So we ended up getting like hothands for everybody.
We ordered blankets, thingslike that.
So it worked out, but we didhave complaints.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
We had complaints about how cold it was and it's
like sorry, separateconversation that there's always
going to be complaintspotentially so, and then you
kind of or rainy or cold or hot,yeah, so you know, but we had
our wedding day and it wasreasonably cold, and then the
very next day it was sunny and75.
And I was like I remember, I doremember that, yeah, you were
(10:32):
the peak, yeah you were thecleanup crew.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
The cleanup crew, me, chad well, hardly me, I was out
of commission Chad and I thinkjust Chad he got a really nice
day to clean up, but our weddingday was like really, really
cold, and it's just.
It is what it is.
It's the day and you make themost of it, and if you have to
wrap yourself in a blanket, youhave to be underneath an
umbrella, no problem, you know,your photographer most likely is
(10:57):
prepared, your venue mostlikely is prepared, unless
you're getting married at yourhouse, like we were, but making
the most of whatever situationweather-wise is like.
Also, I love an overcastsession.
People are like I just want asunny and I'm like, okay, I get
(11:20):
it, I totally get it.
You want the flares, you wantthe sun, you want all of that.
But the lighting in an overcastsession is like perfect.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So funny too with overcast sessions, because the
style of my photography I'venoticed changes pending, which
it should, but I I definitelylean into different.
I mean even my the lenses thatI use, pending whether it's
overcast or sunny.
I notice going through myphotos that I definitely I lean
(11:52):
into one versus the other whenthose weather variables are in
there.
So when it's overcast I tend todo a lot more wide shots.
That's what I just captured.
And when it's sunny and I wantthe flares, I tend to get a
little bit closer and there's norhyme or reason other than
super interesting.
Just what feels right in themoment, what feels right in the
moment.
Yeah, and I'm always happy withthe photos.
(12:12):
I'm really good with what weget.
I always provide a variety andthere's not all wide shots or
all close ups, but I just tendto look at my favorites from
those, and it's always thecloudy, overcast ones.
You can get some really goodcouples, separated pretty far
from the camera, black and white, even outdoors, cause sometimes
(12:33):
the black and white during asunny day with foliage is a lot
of things going on.
And even with it it's all over,but on an overcast day it's a
lot easier on the eyes and Ialways tend to love those.
I'm just going into talkingabout photos now.
So you are correct from me,overcast is underrated, but I
will say that I think a lot ofpeople are catching on to it,
(12:55):
cause I have had a lot ofconversations in the past year
with couples who go like, oh,isn't a cloudy day better?
So I think they know, I thinkthey just deep down, they want
that sunny that still exists,that like they want that sunny
day.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But the overcast you can do so much with.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I think so too.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So another really good tip to have is I know it's
the ceremony right, it's theceremony that everybody wants
outside.
For the most part, receptionsare moving into a hall, they're
moving into a room, somethinglike that, and the weather
doesn't really matter at thatpoint.
It's the ceremony that peoplereally want in the pictures that
they want outside.
So, just like we said, havingthe umbrellas for your portraits
(13:34):
, which are always so cute, andhaving enough for the bridal
party in the groomsmen.
So the other thing too is thatI don't know a single
photographer who wouldn't bewilling and it's more about the
venue making sure that theguests are OK I don't know a
single photographer who wouldn'tbe willing to have an umbrella
over them and have you standingup at your ceremony with
(13:57):
umbrellas, having yourbridesmaids and your groomsmen
kind of holding one in front ofthe maid of honor, holds it over
the bride, and then the personbehind her holds it behind her,
and then the person and the lastperson has two umbrellas so
that the bride and the groom canstill stand together.
I've actually had a wedding thatthat happened, where it started
to downpour and I was likealmost Like I was prepared, I
(14:18):
had all of my umbrellas.
But when it really started Imean it poured in the middle of
this ceremony and all of theguests are getting wet and
they're taking out their ownumbrellas and I just I handed
out an umbrella to each of thebridesmaids and groomsmen so
they could hold it over thebride.
And then the following.
So worst case scenario, if youreally need to have your
ceremony outside and it's anon-negotiable before you even
(14:41):
book your venue, make sure thatthat's something that they are
OK with doing, because a lot ofvenues won't do that.
They'll wait until the verylast second and then, if it
looks like it's going to rain,they would rather the guests be
comfortable, which I totallyunderstand too, but for me, I
would assume, as a guest, if Ithink the wedding is going to be
rainy, I would bring my ownumbrella.
(15:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So yeah, I mean, just like, anywhere you go, all
right You're kind of responsiblefor your own.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Right your own comfort.
If you know the ceremony you'llbe outdoor, you should bring.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
yeah, you shouldn't get upset if the venue's not
providing you an umbrella or ajacket, so I haven't run into
that.
But it is funny you say thatbecause I do go to weddings.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Wow, I do go to weddings I do the wedding, I do
the wedding.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
And there's a lot of people that don't bring
umbrellas and are shocked whenit starts raining.
So I don't know if they'regetting ready and they just
don't look or don't care butthat is funny that you mentioned
that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It's something that maybe people should put on their
invite, like outdoor ceremony,rain or shine.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Maybe, that would be an option of just being rain or
shine, Please bring the properattire for an outdoor ceremony.
If that was something that wasreally important to you and you
said to your venue before yousent out your invites like, if I
put that on my invite, is thatgoing to be something that you
can also accommodate or is itsomething where I mean, I don't
know if it's like a hazard issueof having people out in the
(16:15):
rain and all of that, but that'salso an option, because some of
me was like I don't know, Iwould hope that people would
just show up wearing.
If it's a rainy day, you're notgoing to like show up and
almost nothing and have nocoverage, right?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I would think and I'm way too sarcastic to like think
this seriously.
I think I'm thinking of theinvitation that I would send
them to be like if it rains.
You know, your screwed asshole,I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Tell you something like that Go home, go home.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Don't bring a jacket.
Good luck, that's it.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
This is a full-size wedding only if it's sunny.
If not, it's intimate, andyou're this if you're receiving
this invite.
You're only invited if it's asunny day, oh my gosh.
But that is an option to say toyour guests before anything,
even I think that's fair.
We're having an outdoor ceremony, rain or shine, please dress
accordingly.
I've never seen it on an invite, but I do think it's a good
(17:05):
idea If that is like anon-negotiable for you as a
bride and you're like I wantthose rainy photos even if it's
rainy.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
We're going to want those outdoor photos.
Even You're invited to ourwedding.
Be an adult, take care ofyourself.
That's pretty much it.
We're not, we're not.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
We're going to feed you, but I do understand how
parents would be like no, butthey're coming to your wedding
and they're bringing a gift andyou have to make them
comfortable.
I do understand that too.
But if you kind of prep themfor, like, we're going to be
outside, rain or shine, likeit's up to you, then okay.
So that is something that Ialso was thinking about.
I had another one.
(17:42):
It was on the tip of my tongue.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I was going to say do you have a?
Do you have a in thephotographer realm?
Do you have any other?
Well, I'll switch it the clientrealm.
Do you have any tips for yourclients for, we'll say, an
engagement session?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
So for the engagement session, I mean, I tend to do
this thing.
I usually urge people to notcancel their session if it's
rainy, but for an engagementsession, I feel like you can't
choose your weather.
Like your wedding weather, youcan't choose it.
So for the engagement session,I am a little more lenient about
(18:20):
weather.
If you're hoping for a sunsetfor your engagement session and
I'm like I swear rainy photoswould be so beautiful today and
and they're just like no, thisis really like our vision.
I tend to err on the side of Iwill let the engagement sessions
reschedule, and it's usuallywhat they want to do.
Yep, do you see the same thing?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, I do.
I almost worded it exactly.
I always tell everyone you know, but exactly that I say you.
You don't get to pick yourwedding weather.
So for the engagement sessionwe do have that availability, as
long as I have the availability.
So I'll be honest with myschedule and I'll be as flexible
as I can.
So if you don't really it isbecause there's a lot of people
(19:03):
that don't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So it's like nope rain or shine.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
It's one of those things where I yeah and just
it's.
I want to see you happy withyour photos, so I want to set
the expectations up.
Really good for what you expectfrom me For your wedding day.
So if you're not happy with therainy day engagement session,
I'm like, well, suck it up.
It's kind of crappy of me.
So yeah but it depends on whoyou hire.
So and what they're what they're, you know prerogative.
(19:30):
So that's a good question toask on the client end to your
photographer before you signthem.
So how do you handle engagementsessions in rain?
It's always a good right.
I try my best to get thatacross beforehand.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Also having an alternative, alternative pair of
shoes for your wedding day.
If it's going to be rainy, Iwould err on the side of.
I mean, I think it is so coolwhen brides have like I.
Actually, for one of my rainywedding days, I brought my
hunter boots for me to wear andthen I was like you should put
(20:01):
these on like this would lookreally good with your dress,
yeah and she wore my hunterboots and they were like the
green hunter boots in the In,like like this would see, it was
at the Pavilion on Crystal Lake, so it was like woodsy and it
had like the rainy day vibe, butshe was wearing the boots, so
it's kind of like adventurebride.
I was like, ooh, I will totallyget my my toes wet so that you
(20:24):
can wear my rain boots in yourphotos, but I think it would be
a really, really good idea forevery single bride to get a pair
.
I mean, use it as a yes, yourexcuse, you're gonna buy what
$600 wedding shoes anyway.
Get yourself a nice pair ofrain boots that also you could
throw on underneath your dressso that you're not ruining your
$400.
(20:45):
What is it?
Lawfler Randall, I bought the,the bootleg version of them for
$40, so I don't know actuallycalled but.
But.
But, yeah, get something whereit's okay.
If you have to, you know, wecan lift up your dress and we
can take you to the area thatyou need to be photographed in.
But footwear, you know, unlessyou want to kick off your shoes
(21:09):
and be barefoot, which is alsoan option in the rain and very
fun, you know, but like good melook at it as an opportunity.
Buy yourself those rain boots orkick off the shoes and have the
really fun barefoot rainyphotos.
Yep you know it's and it's sofunny because I think when
people think about it, theydon't think that it's like like
when I say it I'm like, oh mygod, that's so fun, you know.
(21:30):
I think, barefoot rainy daywedding photos, that's awesome.
But then I think, when you're abride and you're thinking about
your hair and your makeup andyou're thinking about your shoes
that you Spend so much money onlike, it's so easy to be like,
but that's not what I want, youknow.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
But if you just open your mind.
Yeah, it's the open.
What could be fun?
you know, so make sure you got aeither your, your partner, or a
Bridesmaid or a maid of honor,a matron of honor, somebody who
can help you with that.
That would be good, that's likethat's a good, that's that's a
good made of honor, a major anda minor that can not just be
there for you Physically butlike a little little mentally,
(22:07):
to just like help you get in thezone.
If you're locked into thatbecause there's, you don't have
a lot of time to think on yourwedding day.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You are so overwhelmed and not.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Exhausted.
You're just exhausted as theclock.
You're exhausted as the persongetting married it's you know.
You want to let Let low lay lay.
I want to say lay low, Letloose and just just let your
vendors take care of you andenjoy your family.
You don't want to makedecisions, and that's ooh.
That's a good conversationpoint too, and that took me a
while to get used to waslearning real quick decision
(22:40):
overload yes we got to tow thatline of our Whatever, whatever
it is from the photo world, youknow do you want?
to do this thing.
Here are a couple options.
We only have so much time.
Which one would you rather do?
And there's a time and place toask that and you have to know
your couple.
This is when knowing yourcouple is really helpful, and
(23:01):
Knowing when their decisionfatigue has already kicked in
and you're like I just got tomake this call.
Right and they're gonna be okaywith that.
So there's, that's a.
That's a fun conversation point.
This is you as the bride.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, so you can actually.
I mean, I have asked people inour final phone call like if I
have to make a decision, do youtrust the decision that I make,
like based off of how the day isgoing, or is there somebody in
your bridal party that you Trustwith your vision?
So if I have a question thatmight seem relatively stupid,
but I need to know it, I can askyour maid of honor.
I can say you know, did youguys discuss this, this type of
(23:34):
thing, what do you think thatshe would prefer?
So kind of putting somebody incharge of all those decisions
and having a really clearConversation with that person
beforehand so that they know.
Okay, if this comes up, this iswhat we're doing.
I think that that is likeAlmost like invaluable to have
somebody At your wedding daythat basically knows all of the
(23:57):
decisions that you would make,so that your vendors can go to
them instead of you.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I love this conversation too, because this
is the as with any job it's.
It's hard to to talk about thisstuff.
It's hard to present this inlike a summary of what is a
wedding photographer or what youknow.
Whatever your job is, like youknow we do, employers are trying
to get it in a summary and thisis such a very like Specific
(24:22):
conversation point that youcan't talk about anywhere else
other than just you and Italking about it right now.
That it's it.
This comes down to experience,like dealing with and knowing.
Okay, this is another checklistitem.
That's not a.
It's not a.
Do I have my camera gear?
It's not a.
Do I have my lens?
Do I have the umbrellas?
It's a.
Oh.
Do I Understand who is thecontact person for specifically
(24:43):
Knowing the brighter groom'svision?
Who's the decision-maker?
And then how do I know when tomake the call and when to have
somebody else make the call?
Like that's such, a, such aspecific piece, but it's, it's
such an important part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Right, because, for the most part, you want to think
.
You want to.
I mean, we talk to our clientsin depth about what is important
to them versus what isn't.
So you want to think toyourself I know what they want,
I know the vision that they have.
Yeah, spoke myself in the ear,I know the vision that they have
, but I just I need to get thatlittle bit of.
Somebody else had a part in thisdecision too.
(25:18):
If there's something that yourbride and your groom really
wanted to be a part of their dayand it just very much is
looking like it's not going tohappen, and you think in your
head I know them well enough tomake this decision, I'm just
gonna confirm with thebridesmaid, I'm just gonna
confirm with X person that theyput in charge of knowing their
vision.
It just gives you that littlebit of like.
(25:39):
I Mean you hope that you'reconfident in making that
decision, but to have somebodyalso go, yes, I think that
that's what they would want.
You know it's like okay, allright, let's move forward.
Because for the most part, ifyou're like me, I feel like I
know, I've talked to my brideand groom, I know what's
important and if something isn'tgonna happen.
I just I already know it'sgonna be okay.
(26:00):
I just need to confirm it.
Otherwise, we need to push thatthing if they're like no, no,
no, that was something that theyreally, really, really had to
have, and they didn't quiteexpress that to me.
In the same way, I need to knowthat you.
Couldn't send me that's you arecorrect so I think To kind of,
and do you have any more?
(26:20):
Because I was just gonna wrapit up with a little.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I think wrapping it up would be good awesome.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So I think the key points to take away from this
episode as far as rainy dayweddings is Talk to your
photographer beforehand, whichis most.
I mean, most of the advice thatwe give you on this podcast is
like talk to your photographer.
Talk to your photographerbeforehand, not only about the
wedding day, about weddinggalleries that they've shot
before, about you know the rainyday Engagement schedule, what
(26:47):
that looks like and what youroptions are there.
Ask them if they have.
You know umbrellas to beprovided, and don't ever look
down on a photographer If theydon't provide them.
I think that that's.
It is a lot to bring 10-12.
Umbrella.
Usually one of my arms is likestick straight and I'm like yeah
, somebody take these from me,please.
We already yes, we already haveso much on our plate that I
(27:09):
could understand why aphotographer wouldn't
necessarily want to keep thosein their car and have to do the
run back and forth.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
But but you're gonna say you should ask them ahead of
time.
That's the part that you shouldknow.
Yep.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yes, don't ever judge .
If they don't, they're notobligated to.
Everybody works differently.
Chris and I happen to be twophotographers that feel
similarly on this, that we wouldrather have them than not.
But ask if they do.
If they don't Order that bulkpack and if you don't need them,
send them back.
That's that's like my bestadvice.
(27:44):
Grab some umbrellas, grab a, anAlternative shoe choice.
Ask your venue about their rainplan and be very, very, very
Aware of what happens with therain plan.
Don't do the thing of closingyour eyes and crossing your
fingers and hoping it won'thappen, because if it does
happen, it will change theentirety of your wedding vibe.
(28:06):
Also, if you wanted to addsomething on your invitations,
I'm just kind of going througheverything that we had chatted
about briefly so that it's likeone little list here.
Do?
it adding something, addingsomething to your Invitations.
This is happening rain or shine.
There will be outdoor portionsof this day.
Please dress accordingly.
If it's raining, please bringan umbrella.
(28:27):
It can even.
It doesn't have to be like onyour invite.
It can be like a little likeinsert, like this is happening
outside, whether you like it ornot, you don't like it.
Rsvp no.
You know, Exactly, but I think,the most important piece of this
entire if you take anythingaway from this, and I think that
it's Important to think aboutrain or shine Take that five
(28:50):
minutes in the very beginning ofyour day, before you talk to
anybody, before you see anybody,before your photographer says
hello.
Just take that five minuteswith your coffee and definitely
some water.
Are you taking a picture?
Gotta do a photo.
This is the the photo for thesocials that we're recording
right now Like the little pauseand definitely some water and
(29:12):
try, try to do this thing ofOkay, it's raining on the
wedding day, we've planned,we've prepared, we know what's
happening.
It's not exactly my vision, butit's not about this one day and
if this is the one wrench thatwe have, it's okay.
Plus, I don't know if you saw,but our poll Says that most
(29:34):
people think that rain on yourwedding day is actually good
luck.
I Was surprised to see that wemight get we might get more good
luck actually no, it's a clear5050 right now.
Oh.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Oh shit yeah no, it's a clear 5050.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So Jury's out on whether or not it's good luck,
but I've heard that it's good.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Okay, I'm pushing that into the good no one thinks
it, but anyway it's.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It's all about the mindset that you approach your
day with.
Whether it's rain or shine, itjust is what it is.
Take five minutes in themorning.
Try to just turn it so that youcan be excited for your day.
No matter what it looks like,there will be a wrench and if
rain is it, there's nothing youcan do about it.
It's just weather.
It's just weather.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But just weather.
But you could learn more aboutthe weather if you want to be
prepared.
We went right into.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
That was perfect, my cousin my cousin who's not even
on Instagram anymore because Itold her to follow you.
She literally every timethere's like a bad storm coming,
she goes.
What does your buddy Chris say?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
What is?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
because she's she decided she's done with socials.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So she's like hey, I'm just checking in, like what
he says, just checking in, Ineed to somehow and not social,
post somewhere that she canvisit.
I know, I Know it's hard withupdated information.
It's hard like weatherinformation is literally only
applicable in the moment.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
So it's an email if you do like an email channel.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But if they only see it.
Even if they see it a few hoursafter it's posted, it's it's
old news, it's already on news.
That's that's the tricky partabout weather info.
There's actually a term forthis.
I forget what it's called, butit's information that has an
expiration.
That's almost immediate andthat makes it tricky, depending
the platform that you're puttingthe.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I know the word you're trying.
I can't think of it.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You would know this, as the marketing guru over here
who went went to school for this.
There there is a term and Ican't think of it.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's almost like instantaneous.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Don't know, yep which is why I come to me as soon as
we get off of this.
And it's already old news, soit doesn't matter, that's there
it is.
It mattered for like twoseconds I can certainly done.
Yeah, boring old, let's yeah Ifyou liked this conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
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subscribing to this podcast.
If you don't have anything niceto say, just silently close
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Speaker 1 (32:05):
That's a.
That's advice from DIY Queen.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah oh, and if you want to follow me for some
spooky DIYs, it's only August 1818th, but oh boy, we are on it
already.
So if you want to, follow me onsome spooky DIYs, some basement
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You can see it all on.
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Um, if you want to follow Chrisfor weather.
What's your handle, oh, andPhotography, and lens and light
(32:36):
His nutritional, nutritionaljourney.
You can follow Chris on.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Insert handle here photography dot styles very easy
.
You'll see all that, yeah, allthat stuff in there.
We'll talk about lens and lightnext week do that again, given
update.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Oh, okay, I'm excited to hear dad's moving.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's moving fast now, so gonna also guys.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
We all.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
We also keep asking for your Stories, your questions
, anything like that.
We are putting together a listof all of those questions that
you have about your weddingquarries or discussions.
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The Instagram?
I'm so bad at handling.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
No, I know it's everything BS podcast you are
everything BS podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, so we're compiling the list and we will
answer on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
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Speaker 2 (33:28):
All right, it was nice talking to you.
Have a nice week, brooke.
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