June 27, 2023 • 37 mins
Are you dreaming of a picture-perfect wedding with all the bells and whistles? Or, do you prefer to keep things simple and focus on what really matters? We continue part 2 in this fun and insightful episode, exploring some of the latest wedding trends and traditions, from over-the-top cakes to sparklers and fireworks, and give you some tips on how to make your big day truly unforgettable.
As we dive into wedding cakes and cake toppers, we'll discuss the age-old question: is it better to have a lavish, all-edible cake, or should you opt for a more practical, budget-friendly alternative like cupcakes or donuts? We'll also delve into the evolution of wedding traditions, such as fathers "giving away" their daughters, and how modern couples are shaking things up with new approaches like walking down the aisle together. Plus, we'll debate the pros and cons of uniform bridesmaid dresses, wedding hashtags, and the ever-popular photo booths.
To wrap things up, we'll discuss the importance of capturing those perfect moments on your big day and how technology has played a part in shaping modern wedding celebrations, including live streaming during the pandemic. So, whether you're in the midst of planning your own wedding or simply love keeping up with the latest trends, this episode is your one-stop-shop for all things matrimonial! Join us for a lively discussion filled with laughs, stories, and expert advice on making your special day truly unique.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I got one.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ooh, tell me.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Apparently over the top cakes and cake toppers is
coming back into the weddingindustry.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh really, yep, because I Oh that's what I was
gonna ask you, not about cakesin general, but just like your
take on like cupcakes and donutsversus like an actual cake.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I would go to guess and I'm not shocked by this at
all Over the past probably Imean before I was a wedding
photographer is really when itstarted coming in.
So we're talking like 10 yearsago is when cakes were coming
out or they were leaving thescene, and then first it went
into less dramatic cakes, thenit was naked cakes, then it was
(00:41):
cupcakes.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I do remember the naked cakes, and then it was
let's just do anything.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Donuts, like you know , these crazy walls.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We had donuts, all these different things.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But it's economical and looks good.
Like I'm still for that, likeI'm so into, you know, anything.
That's not a cake, a cool wayto display it.
Two thumbs up on that for mebecause, yeah, it is economical.
But if we're talking instrictly trends, i am not
shocked that over-the-top cakesand cake toppers are coming back
, because we've been on thenaked cake thing for years now.
(01:13):
So as years go by, people wantto not do the same thing.
Because I'm gonna go to guessthat a lot of people too this is
super generalization Peoplethat when they do get married,
i'm gonna go to guess thatthey've had a few people in
their lives that have alreadygotten married.
I'm gonna go to guess maybethat's how trends happen, maybe
that's how it happens, that'slike the psychology here.
They've been to a few andthey're like, well, i don't
(01:33):
wanna do that, i wanna dosomething different.
I've seen four weddings wherethey had, you know, donuts,
let's not do donuts, Let's do areally good cake, And then here
we go And then everybody startsdoing it again.
So who knows, that could be the.
I think we just figured it out.
I'm gonna close this podcast.
We're good trends done.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I was like wait, hold on what, no, but have you so
okay?
So with the cake conversation,i'm only saying this because I
have made.
So I had a wedding one timethat was running like kind of
late And we couldn't forwhatever reason we couldn't find
the matriotty who was likerunning the whole thing, and I
(02:12):
kind of, you know, my coveragewas coming to an end and there
was no cake cutting in sight,but the cake was there And so I
had my clients cut the cake andthey like asked, like is there a
specific way we're supposed todo it?
And I just kind of followedwhat I've always seen other
people do with the.
You know, like we're not stupid, i've done this, you've done
this, like we know how to cut acake, you know, and I always,
(02:34):
like you know, if thecoordinator offers to show them
how, where, whatever, i'vewatched so many.
You know This particular cakewas mostly a fake cake And so,
yeah, it was like all styrofoam,so I had them cut through
styrofoam.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh, I wish I saw that .
I was just hearing the noise inmy head as you cut.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, they kept going why is it so hard?
Like, why is it so hard?
And I don't even think my, idon't even think my couple knew
that most of their cake wasstyrofoam.
So like, okay when you say likethe big, that is hilarious.
The big cakes and stuff, rightIs?
I mean, is it even a thing tohave like a five tier cake and
(03:23):
have it all cake?
Like I don't know if that'slike a stupid question because
like how, and I know they havelike the support that goes up
through and sometimes they havethe different layers of, but,
like for a wedding, it justseems so risky, right.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
For it to all be cake .
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I understand why they're using styrofoam, but if
those types of cakes are comingback, are they actually gonna be
cake that is really served toeveryone, or are we just gonna
have the big beautiful cakesthat are mostly styrofoam,
because those are reallyexpensive too?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well, one thing so on that trends tend to come back,
but they usually always comeback with like a slight twist up
there something different,Something better, yeah.
Yeah, so maybe that's, maybeyou're so, i don't know.
I don't know the answer to this.
This is a good one, So ifanyone is listening and has
thoughts on this, would love toknow.
We gotta post this in the story.
This would be good.
(04:17):
Good question.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, i just I don't know.
I know that they can make hugecakes.
There are definitely likeedible, i mean they have like
sculpture cakes, sometimes, likewe watch all these different
baking shows, so I know it'spossible.
But for an actual wedding forit to be cut all I've ever seen
because I think since I'vestarted my career, mostly I've
(04:40):
just seen like the smaller cakeswhere it's just it's for
cutting and that's for photosAnd then they have some type of
other dessert that's rolled outto everybody and whatever.
I'm not sure that I've everactually seen a five or six
layer cake, that is, cake thatis cut up for guests.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I have not So, but I've also been.
I have been photographing inthe very as we're going.
Talking about trends, i've beenin the trendy world of small
cake, naked cake.
I've seen some bigger cakesabsolutely, but not five.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But were they fake?
So are they real or are theyfake?
You know what?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I can tell you that maybe one or two of them were
fake, mostly with a smaller cakefor the bride and groom, and
then everybody else gotsomething else.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, the small one on top and then the other ones
are styrofoam with buttercream.
So I have seen that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Now I'm thinking about it.
I definitely have seen that,but they didn't.
I maybe didn't think about itbecause I didn't see them cut
through the styrofoam.
So that is like 10 out of 10.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The coordinator came over to me like are you serious?
Oh yeah, no, that would begreat If I was the groom.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I would have loved to see that If I was the groom,
that would have made my night.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
That would have been hilarious, Have you seen?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
so?
but you did mention isn't itscary to have a cake that big?
because it's a risk, Have you?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
seen Just because of the big.
It's like such a big event, youknow.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Have you seen?
There was a recent video I sawspiraling around on on the
instas and the tic-tac about a.
It was a huge, huge cake thatthe two workers were bringing
over and it was a.
It was a very big wedding andthe thing just spilled over onto
the dance floor and the bride'sface was just, you know, oh my
God.
And the groom looked at it,started laughing and then the
(06:20):
next scene is him with a fork onthe floor eating the cake.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That's just like That's.
That's how you handle it.
That's how you handle it, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's how you handle it, because it's like
everyone's going to look to thebride and groom like what's
their reaction?
Like you unfortunately, arerunning the show on how to
handle this going forward Sothat's but that is a risk always
.
So I I can only imagine beingthe worker that moved that cake.
I, i personally all I've doneis rotated tables.
(06:47):
I just spin it around and eventhen I'm I am freaking out a
little bit.
I'm like usually have someonealways come and help me and give
a give, a spin on the table andthe spin is so I can get like
the right angle and thebackground for the light.
Yeah, I, just a fun thing forus photographers is the cake is
always in the corner and itlooks terrible.
It looks from a photographystandpoint.
that's the way to deal with.
I hate taking the picture ofthe cake in the corner because
(07:10):
the light hits the wall and itlooks bad and it's just boring.
So all you have to do is justspin it 360, and then you're
facing the room and all ofthat's blurred out and it looks
like this nice, you know, creamy, colorful, fun.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
But if you do that, you open the opportunity for
guests to crowd around the tableof the cake Like if, if, if the
dance floor is in the back andeverybody's trying to get photos
.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Oh, so I've never done it.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
When people are like deep in dancing, It's usually
still Oh no, no me either I'msaying like they, like they
gravitate towards the cake tablebecause they want to take
photos and stuff.
So if you're, if, if most ofyour backdrop basically is open
space, then the guests are morelikely to also crowd around.
So then you don't have thatlike moment with the wedding
(08:00):
couple.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So yeah, there's, of course, there's always that, but
I'm I'm even talking about justthe cake shop without the bride
and groom there, Like.
I'll do that on my own.
So, but yes, without,especially in a world of having
a, we're leaning into privatecake cuttings.
You'd have to be careful withthat.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Right.
So the other another likewedding trend that I saw was not
taking dads out of walking thebride down the aisle, but
basically the bride having themom and the dad walk down the
aisle so that it's not so, it'snot so much like the dad is just
giving her away.
It's equally as much.
The mom And then I.
So first of all, yes or no?
(08:36):
I say yes, two thumbs up, likeboth of your parents deserve
that moment.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, they both raise you.
I have nothing against that,literally none at all.
It's the, it's the concept of,it's that weird social norm that
you're just like well, no,that's how it's done.
You know that's I, you knowit's.
It's a nice sentiment, but whenyou find out the reasoning why,
from history, it's super weirdsuper weird So you know what it
(09:02):
is, Brooke, Can you tell us whatthat actually is?
And when people say, oh, givingher away, it's sound again in
modern culture.
it sounds cute, It soundsreally nice, But really what it
was is.
we're talking about Tradingcows and stuff for your product.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Like I said, yeah, we so we had for the listeners.
Like we had a podcast at onepoint that I think we're going
to have to rerecord because oflike the shitty sound quality or
something.
But we were talking aboutwedding traditions and why
exactly fathers give their brideor their daughters away, and
for the most part it was kind oflike trading your daughter into
(09:38):
a family in return for itemsand livestock and things like
that, which I don't know.
I don't really understand.
But so, to take that a littlebit further, i've been seeing
this trend of the bride and thegroom walk down the aisle
together, and I actually had abride meet her groom at the very
(10:01):
end of the aisle and then theywalked down together.
She walked a little portion ofthat herself.
Her dad also had passed away,so she didn't have her dad to
walk her down the aisle, so shewalked.
It was a gorgeous wedding on abeach, so she walked from this
cabin that she was coming out ofdown to where the guests were
and her husband well, her groomwas waiting for her at the very
(10:24):
end of the aisle And then theywalked down together as a couple
, which I thought was justbeautiful.
Yeah, I loved it And I wish thatpeople would do that more so
that they could have the photosof them coming in together and
then also going out together,because it is such a different
feel.
It's not you're not getting thesame photo with your
significant other because youhave all of these.
(10:44):
like, in the very beginning itfeels like you have nerves and
all of that, but then in thevery end, when you're walking
the processional is that whatit's, the processional you're
coming down and you have all ofthis excitement and looking for
another word.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Energy.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, it's like this fresh energy, like you just
kissed your person for the firsttime as a married couple and
then you're coming back down, sothe feeling of it is such a
different vibe And I lovedseeing them walk down together
And it was kind of like I justthought it was like the sweetest
thing, like he was waitingthere for her, he took her hand,
he walked down with her andthen, after their kiss and they
(11:24):
walked back out.
It was like a totally differentfeel, but I loved it so much.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Love it.
Yeah, i love it.
I love challenging the norm ofwhy do we do the norm?
and it's because somebody elsedid it or somebody told us to,
or sometimes it's family thatfeels that that was the
traditional thing.
Yeah, some people are.
they vibe really strong withtraditionalism and certain
things are nice, but it'spreference.
It's all preference becauseit's all.
(11:51):
I don't even think couples knowthat they can do this.
It's almost like you have totell them like you have the
power, you can do it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You can literally do anything.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
It's usually the conversation we have, like FYI,
because we get the question alot as photographers, you know,
when you talk to your couples aswe're approaching the date,
like you know, what do otherpeople do, and it's like, well,
first off, there's no wrong orright answer here, just to get
that off the bat.
But if you want to do somethingmore similar to what other
people doing, because it's lessattention to yourself and you
don't want to be the talk of thetown, understandable, fine,
(12:22):
let's go forward with that, youknow.
Or if you feel strongly aboutdoing it, but otherwise there
are no rules, there are no rules.
That is why we are here on thispodcast talking about this.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
So yes, your wedding day should be authentically you
and whatever that means to you.
If it means that, actually, mynext question bridal parties.
Bridal parties that are kind ofI don't think they're phasing
out, but I think that there isthis push of And I felt it
myself too where, you know, igot engaged and I felt like,
alright, well, just just becauseI'm planning a wedding doesn't
(12:55):
mean that all of my friends haveto put their lives and all of
their things on hold, like I.
Just I wanted it to be asseamless and easy as humanly
possible.
It wasn't because I didn't wantfor our friends to be a part of
our day.
I literally just felt like,okay, but why?
why are you gonna have to caterto me because of this huge
(13:16):
event that I'm throwing, youknow?
so I'm seeing that a lot ofbrides and grooms and wedding
couples are Moving away from thebridal party and, to be honest,
i love it.
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I Think it, this is, this is such my personality in
the mediator.
I Think it depends.
I think what I okay, what I dolove is seeing this push away
from having the, the need tomake everybody come and give
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everybody gifts and or go toExtravagant locations and just
clean.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Come to Cabo with me.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's so much money that a lot of people especially
if you're you know If you're inthe wedding party.
If you're in a wedding partyfour or five times in a year,
that's a heavy cost.
Like that's a like you're notgoing on vacation that year, i
don't know, or you're going onmultiple vacations that you
didn't choose you didn't choose,yeah, so with friends that
aren't really your friends.
(14:16):
Yeah, i think the concept of ofWelcoming the most important
individuals in your circle toyou know, represent as a As a
sign that you know this is myimportant people.
I want them here on my day andI'm putting them in my party
because letting you know thatyou're a big part of my life,
(14:37):
like that, that generalsentiment in the wedding party,
good with it's all the baggagethat comes with it that I think
we just Do because that's whatsociety says to do for some
silly reason.
I'm so if it takes a shift of,you know, let's remove wedding
parties or make them reallysmall to get there to do that,
(14:59):
maybe that's a step in thatprocess, to kind of open that up
.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I Think the big wedding parties need to And I
don't want to say die out I.
I just think that when you havetoo big of a wedding party,
like, like I don't know I don'tknow how to say this without it
sounding rude like if I waschosen for a wedding party with
(15:27):
10 to 12 other girls, is it?
is it really feeling thatspecial for me to be a part of
that anymore?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Well, it depends on.
So this is where I would putthe.
I think it we're getting intopersonality types.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Some personalities have Yeah, i have two friends,
So who can I talk like I can'ttalk?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
we're too.
We're two different types ofintroverts on this podcast, but
we are both introverts.
So you and I both have a veryclose group of friends.
I think we can that's what itsounds like we can agree on that
.
Yeah, it's a very small circle,but there are people who are not
like that and they have a verywide circle And those are gonna
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be your big 10 to 12 party.
So I think what we need to mymy like, big, like push on this
is Are you doing it because youreally do have a group that
large, that large that you wantto keep in your circle and
showcase them off and make themall feel special, or you're
doing it because You feel likeyou need to, where you've got
(16:26):
like four people and you're likewell, i can't have this person
because We you know, we werecollege friends, so I definitely
need to add this person andit's, you can just go, you can
go off the rails And then, whyare you?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
that's most of what I've seen, i think, which is why
I have like a.
I have like a Like becausethat's what I've seen.
It's it's kind of like well, icouldn't have my sister in my
bridal party without having hissister and my bridal party.
Yeah right, and it's like That'snot the reason to have them in
your bridal party.
I think that there should Imean there shouldn't be a limit.
(16:58):
I don't want to make it soundbecause I've had so many like
big bridal parties and they'reso fun.
They're so fun, but I feel likeyou Especially well, maybe you
know what though this might justbe speaking to like who I am as
a person in general because I'meven like taking less.
I'm taking less weddings, butI'm also taking more intimate
weddings.
So when I think about intimateweddings, having 10 people on
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both sides of the bridal party,that to me feels like, well,
that's most of your wedding.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Man full circle here.
That aligns with your brandperfectly.
You're taking on less weddings,more intimate weddings, so that
of course you feel this way,which is that's a good thing,
because your clients shouldtrust you with that, because you
are literally living whatyou're.
You're walking.
The walk is what you're doing,so that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Just to be clear, i have like two friends.
I just thought I don't wantpeople to like drag me.
I have like two friends and Ididn't have any bridal anything.
I didn't have a bridal party.
We didn't.
We literally asked everybody towear a black and that was
everybody who came to.
Our event was important.
Everybody matched, everybodywas there to celebrate us And I
(18:05):
felt like having having a.
And my friends took me on asmall like.
We went for a day in Newportand Chad's friends took him to
like a nice dinner for hisbachelor party, you know.
But we didn't want to make itthis huge like.
Everybody spend all of thismoney because we're getting
(18:26):
married, like I just I reallywanted it to be as minimal as
humanly possible, which are theclients that I'm gravitating
towards.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
So it does make sense why I would be like big wedding
parties are out you know That's, that's, that is you That's so
when we say our brand, that's inthis world, our brand is us.
So that's that's a and you're,you're doing it.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Right, love that.
Can you think of any othertrends that you're seeing right
now?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
So.
I'll kind of we can go a littlebit quicker on these too.
So some of them are, so I'lltalk about that.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Oh yeah, let's do.
let's do that, We'll do thumbsup or thumbs down.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Thumbs up, thumbs down.
So what's out or what's inWedding hashtags?
That was a thing for a while.
I think that's down Who cares?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
It is Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
According to Vogue, it's down, So that's that's.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Okay, so if we don't agree, we're going to debate,
but other than that, we'll justkeep moving.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Okay, uniform bridesmaid dresses are out.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I don't really care.
I think there are certainstyles that look amazing
together all as one.
There are certain styles I dolove the idea, like the one
thing that really and this againgoes back to being like the
easy breezy bride is basicallylike I'm picking a color, you
choose the fit.
I think that it's.
It's really nice to be able togive your bridesmaids the option
(19:46):
to choose.
You know, i want to wear acrossthe shoulder or something like
that, because not everybody'sbody type is the same And
everybody, if you're to me, ifyou're spending money on a dress
, you should be able to wear itagain.
So I don't want to pick out theexact, you know dress that
you're going to have to wear formy day and never, ever again.
But as far as the matching ascolor wise, i've seen like
(20:06):
really cool floral ones Like.
So I'm thumbs up and down, likeI think that you can do
whatever you want.
You don't even have to havethem wear the same color, you
don't have to have them havethem wear the same style, it
don't matter.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I'd say some form of complimentary is what I would
lean on, because it's going tomake, but I'm biased, so I'm
looking for that for the whole.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But people are doing that for their whole guests,
their whole guest list.
They're asking, like you know,please wear bright colors, or
please?
we asked everybody to wear darkcolors and black.
I didn't realize that.
That's why.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I did not know that.
Oh, i you know a black tieevent.
You know something like that.
That would be the one time.
I guess that's the ask.
But when it comes to colors,interesting, didn't know.
I saw a TikTok.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, i saw a TikTok where they basically said wear
the brightest colors that youcan like, cause their day was
going to be so colorful or likeshades of pink stuff like that,
which I think is really cool.
But I think that that shouldalways be the option.
The guys, the guys have to bepretty uniform for it to look
good.
I do like sometimes when I seethat the like the groom is
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wearing a darker color than therest of the guys, just so that
his stands out specifically.
But I think it's just asspecial when they have like a
special boutonniere or somethingthat just kind of like takes
them a little bit more of a stepaway from their look.
So I say thumbs up and thumbsdown, wear what you want, yep.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
On board with that.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Welcome bags into your hotel.
That is a apparently outgoingtrend.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It's very cute, but for the cost.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I think that's the reasoning Really for the cost
And I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I've checked into hotels and got one of those bags
and I love it.
I think it's so cute.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Can I do this?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, You're like I'm almost out.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Thumbs down almost out.
I think it's just anunnecessary expense that a lot
of people stress them out withThe bride and groom on those
last minute details.
It's nice.
It is nice to have somethinglike a handwritten card.
You know, here's a bottle ofwater.
I've seen, you know, advil ifyou're going to go out and drink
, like that's a nice littlething, but it's just.
You're usually at the wedding.
There's a, you know, some sortof blah, blah, blah, blah, some
(22:08):
form of a favor or somethingthat you're giving away.
So it's just, it's just a lotof stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I would say, in lieu of that, give everybody a small
folder with the itinerary, thebus schedule, all of that.
It doesn't have to be likewelcome bags with, you know, his
and hers popcorn and stuff likethat.
It doesn't have to be like thatYou can literally as long as
they check into their hotel andthey have some idea of what is
going on, i think leaving like alittle folder or even just like
(22:34):
printouts with like welcome,we're so glad you're here, but
you don't have to go heavy onlike the favors in the hotel
because for the most part I feellike, well, no, i used
everything that I got.
I ate all that popcorn.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I will say the weddings that I've checked into
and got a welcome bag, even ifit was a paper bag, but when you
get to the hotel and you checkin and you see them, because
they're on the front page.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, you definitely feel special?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, you do So.
I mean, even so, how about this, If you?
we're gonna do I think we'vechanged the boat.
It's either yay or nay, whichis what we've got a lot of
tonight.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I think leaving them with something is very nice,
whether it's a printout.
but I don't think that younecessarily should be putting a
major part of your budgettowards welcome gifts, If it's
stressing you out, then don'tworry about it.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Your guests are gonna .
They're gonna get there andhead over to your shuttle bus
and get over it.
So signature cocktails isapparently something that is a
trend going out.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Going out.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Boo.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Boo, I think I've seen I like the signature
cocktails.
Signature cocktails were goodwith.
I had agreed with that.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
We had a Nelly and a Gremlin and I feel like that was
there.
Like well, nelly ran around ourcocktail hour like a freaking
nut but that was our way of likeof getting Gremlin into our
wedding day because he wasn'tgoing to.
you know, he's a cat, he's notgoing to like say hi to
everybody.
But yeah, i think I think, boo,that it's going out, because I
like signature cocktails.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Signature cocktails, yay, yay.
Oh, the other one that's goingoh, here's a good, here's not on
the list, here's one that we.
My personal thing, so somethingthat I've been surprised with.
I thought I thought photobooths were going to go out and
I've been proven wrong.
I continue to see them thereAnd so what I've, what I
(24:25):
continue to see, is that we justneed maybe it comes from the
need to be stimulated, becausethat's our world now, with like
phones and everything.
So giving your guests somethingfun to do.
And a photo booth is just.
I'm going to very carefully saythe word.
It's not timeless, but I feellike it's close now.
It's been around so long and Ifeel like every time I've been
(24:47):
to a wedding and even if I'vesaid it out loud like, oh, yeah,
here's, you know, another photobooth, when you go and do it
with the people you're with,it's still fun.
It is still fun, like it's just,and then the bride and groom
get it.
They get all the photos,usually whether that's the
prints or both the digital's,and then you, as the guest,
sometimes get your little threeprintout photo.
I was wrong.
(25:09):
I was definitely wrong.
And here we are.
They're still going.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Do you think, though, that it's just as good to set
up a backdrop with props andhave, like, basically, people
taking their phone photos, causeI've seen that too, and I think
that that's kind of fun, likeyou just have like a corner
where you're not necessarilypaying.
You're paying for the backdrop,you're paying for all the props
, things like that, but you'renot paying for, you know,
(25:33):
basically, the service of likethe printouts and things like
that.
But if you had a like, oh, like, oh, the wedding hashtag, or if
you downloaded one of thoseapps where everybody could
upload their photos to the appand then the bride and the groom
or the wedding couple has it,have it at the end of the night,
i feel like that's just as good.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So two thoughts on that, one being, if you do that,
i've been to weddings wherethey had it set up and it was
just as fine during the day, butwhen the sun went down, they
had lights installed on thiswall and they weren't working,
and there's no one there that'sgoing to take care of it,
because it's not the venues,There's no vendor to take care
(26:13):
of it, It's just a guestsomebody And then and that's
what.
So they were asking me like, Oh, did you know how to fix this?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And I was like I.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, i quickly looked in the back just to see
if I could help And I was likeno, i can't, you know, it's just
not working.
So it's unfortunate, because itwas in a dark corner and you
just have, and it was green Soit's just like dark green.
So that was kind of a littlelike Oh man, that's just such a
small little thing, and I'drelate that to during COVID.
There were a lot of which isstill sort of happening now.
(26:41):
Um, not as not even close tohow much it was happening, but
weddings that were doing the,you know, like a live stream and
everyone in their head thinks,oh, super easy.
But there were so many issuesthat came up And this was a
great example of this is why youhire professionals for things
that are only like a wedding,that's only happening once, and
(27:04):
each piece of that is eitherquick and it's only happening
There is no time for error Andif there is error, someone who
is familiar with said equipmentor whatever it is.
That's what you're paying foras well.
And I saw so many people dolive streams and so many things
came up that were like they'dput, you know, let's just say,
(27:25):
an iPhone on like a tripod andthe sun is out, and they didn't
consider that the phone is goingto overheat.
And when I phones overheat, itliterally happened yesterday on
a call I was sitting, i was justtaking in the sun and I was
sitting on the phone with aclient and I had the silly cause
I had the air pods in but myphone was out of my pocket and
it was just sitting on the deckand it was just.
It just got hot And then andthen what happens is it just
(27:46):
shuts off and just saystemperature, it's got to cool
down.
So there, i heard of thosestories And then I also heard
the wifi dropped, the, you knowthey quit it.
Just there's so many things thatcan go wrong as soon as you add
, of add something to your toyour day that, unless it's like,
i guess the best thing would bethe photo wall that you're
describing, because there'sthere's no technology with it,
(28:07):
but there just would have to.
If there's any form of a thinglike a light or something, have
a backup plan and assign that tosomebody.
Make sure that they'reresponsible to take care of it
which maybe you don't want yourguests to do.
You want them to have a goodtime.
So that's, and then, inherently, that's why you hire people to
do it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, my cousin had a .
she had like a separate room.
She got married in this likeolder house that had like all of
the quirky rooms and stuff.
She had like a room set up asthe photo booth and it was like
just a camera with like justlike a regular flash camera on a
tripod and they it was set to a10 second timer And so you
(28:42):
pressed it and you grabbed yourthing and you went in front of
the wall and then she got all ofthose on her camera, basically,
and she uploaded them toFacebook afterwards and it was
totally fine.
So I guess I've just seen itwork before and I've seen it
like look really good And Idon't.
I think if you can get theright, if you can get it to work
the way it's supposed to work,it it, you don't necessarily
(29:05):
need the actual photo booth withthe printouts and all of that,
because you can share them on onFacebook.
So, but I'm also of the world oflike, how can I save money?
and where, like I, i wouldnever pay for something like a
photo booth?
because to me I'm like, well,we all have our phones, we could
all do this thing if I set up,you know, like, and I have extra
cameras lying around too.
(29:25):
So you know, but that's just me.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So last one.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Sparklers and or fireworks.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Fireworks out.
I think fireworks are out.
I'm I'm good on the fireworksYou went.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Vogue.
Vogue thinks fireworks are outtoo.
You got it.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Oh good, you know me and Vogue were.
You guys are pretty tight.
Yeah, the sparklers, i, i just,I think it's out.
I think it's out, it's fun,it's okay.
Does it add much to the gallery?
To me, no, besides maybeburning my hair off running
(30:09):
through a tunnel backwards.
I don't know.
You know You also.
I feel like, well, you knowwhat?
Here's what I'll say.
I'm getting a package.
Here's what I'll say is, if youhave a bridal party that is
responsible enough to not gettoo drunk by the end of my
(30:33):
coverage, right, because Iusually don't stay until the
very last second, i'll stay forabout an hour of dancing And
then, if your bridal party isthe type that will be able to
keep themselves together untilmy coverage ends, take the
bridal party out, just thebridal party.
I think sparkler exits are veryoverwhelming And I think to do
it with every single person inyour reception.
(30:55):
I don't know That one's out forme, but bridal party, meh,
that's not too bad.
You could kind of take them outand do a mock exit.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
All here for that.
I do love the photos, thoughLike that's gonna be where we
separate.
I personally love the sparklerphotos, but what I don't like is
a unplanned and all the DJs ofthe world are gonna agree with
me when it's like middle, likeand it.
Just let's remove, let's getthis energy ramped up on the
dance floor and then we're justgonna cut it and bring everybody
(31:29):
outside.
I know for a fact DJs hate that.
Then they gotta start over andit's tough.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And then you lose half of your look Because it's
not a real sparkler exit either.
So, it's kind of like fake forthe photos, which is inauthentic
.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It is.
They've seen the sparklerphotos.
I get it.
I mean they look.
I personally like them.
I think they look really cool.
I also don't have long hairwith a ponytail that I need to
worry about getting burned offLuckily short short hair but I
still am always highly aware ofthe drunk guests that are waving
(32:00):
it around.
So I would agree I would leantowards keep it to your bridal
party.
If you were bridal parties topeople, that makes it tough.
So maybe your immediate family,but maybe 175 people with a
sparkler.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
But assign 10 people.
We're going out at nine o'clockand we're doing the sparkler
thing.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's so much And it takes a with 100 plus people,
like it takes a long time, Likeyou're losing 10 plus minutes of
your wedding And you only getmore.
Yeah, you only get, you know,maybe two hours of the dance
floor, like if that most of thetime.
So it's one of those things youreally got to think about it
And if it means that much to you, i'm here for the firework,
(32:38):
firework, the sparkler photo.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Okay, but fireworks Yeah fireworks.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, I'm sure If I could get a couple to like do a
dip with fireworks in thebackground, Oh, I love that.
That'd be great.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But Oh, you just have to have somebody get married at
the fourth, on the fourth ofJuly at Anthony's Ocean View.
That was the only time I everhad fireworks in my photos And I
was.
It was cool, but I was like Idon't know, is it worth taking
everybody out to watch thefireworks?
Me no, honestly, you know what.
Here's the thing.
It's not even about the photos.
(33:08):
The photos themselves arebeautiful.
I think.
Where I, where we agree on this, is just don't disturb your
entire reception for thesparkler and the firework What
you did before Exactly.
All of these hundred andsomething people, when they get
back in they're not gonna havethe same energy that they had
before they went out.
It's just.
It just doesn't happen.
(33:29):
I don't you know they're filingback in and now they want cake.
Or now you know they are gonnasit down for a little bit
because they just stood outsideand watched the fireworks.
So I would be.
I'm on the side of.
It's a yes for me, unless itdisturbs everything in your
reception.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Pretty much agree with that.
Yeah, 100%.
Yep, i think we've got it down.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Cause you're right, the photos are beautiful.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
They are, they do.
They're just cause when acouple's not gonna be able to do
that again, they're not gonnabe able to have that.
you know, a professional photowith the right cause it's very
hard to take iPhone photos with.
even if you had a Fourth ofJuly party and you're like, all
right, let's everybody gettogether and do sparkler dip and
do that, The iPhone photos arenot.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
It's hard to take professional photos of it
sometimes It is.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It's tricky And I'm almost every time there's.
I've got it down now, but evenstill there's always like a
little bit of a panic in me whenI do it, Cause we only get one
shot to do it.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
So And if you're going to do it, get the extra
long sparklers so that we haveenough time.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Please, please, the extra long sparkler, for God's
sakes.
All right, we are at one hourplus So you got any final words
for this episode.
This, this podcast.
We got.
I know she got, i should got abig guy there.
She was like Oh God, pressureson me.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
No, I think I just want to say that to the people
who are already listening to us.
First of all, thank you.
Like I know, we only have a fewpodcasts out It's and I'm going
to be totally honest Like Igive myself the ick when I
listen to these back.
It's, it's super, super weirdto hear.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
It's very weird, it's , it is.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But I do want to say that we're still working a lot.
The audio we're working on like, for example, i literally and
I'll just you know I've I've gotlike the sound barriers and all
of that, like we're tryingreally hard to make it so that
this is like the best it can bein your ears.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I think it's gonna improve every time because we're
going to be pushing theenvelope.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
So Me too.
I got a little scared on thelast one cause, like we, i heard
so many mouth sounds and youagreed, like we both were.
like, why did?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I, i worked on it for probably an hour and tried all
different things.
And I literally couldn't get itdown to it.
If I, if I removed certainsounds this way, then it was
doing other weird things And Iwas like well which one's worse
And that's what I had to startdoing was like this back and
forth, or I could have spenteight hours cleaning it up and I
don't have that time for this.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
No, no, but I just want to say thank you, like if
you're still listening to us andyou heard our mouth sounds and
it weirded you out as much as itweirded me out, like thank you
for just sticking through it,cause I do think it'll get
better every time, but we'restill trying to figure out, like
the audio and all of that.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Basically, what she's saying is apologizing for the
BS.
Hey, there you go, but it's allright because it's all BS, so
it's fine, everything So.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Do you have anything to say before we sign off?
No, i feel weird.
I feel like we have to have anactual sign off when we're like
here doing this thing.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
This is a first time we're doing video, so we'll do
more of these and see where itgoes.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
So Awesome, i guess we can stop the recording.
Beep, beep, and then does this,does it automatically like take
.
I got one.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ooh, tell me.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Apparently over the top cakes and cake toppers is
coming back into the weddingindustry.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh really, yep, because I Oh that's what I was
gonna ask you, not about cakesin general, but just like your
take on like cupcakes and donutsversus like an actual cake.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I would go to guess and I'm not shocked by this at
all Over the past probably Imean before I was a wedding
photographer is really when itstarted coming in.
So we're talking like 10 yearsago is when cakes were coming
out or they were leaving thescene, and then first it went
into less dramatic cakes, thenit was naked cakes, then it was
(00:41):
cupcakes.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I do remember the naked cakes, and then it was
let's just do anything.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Donuts, like you know , these crazy walls.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We had donuts, all these different things.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
But it's economical and looks good.
Like I'm still for that, likeI'm so into, you know, anything.
That's not a cake, a cool wayto display it.
Two thumbs up on that for mebecause, yeah, it is economical.
But if we're talking instrictly trends, i am not
shocked that over-the-top cakesand cake toppers are coming back
, because we've been on thenaked cake thing for years now.
(01:13):
So as years go by, people wantto not do the same thing.
Because I'm gonna go to guessthat a lot of people too this is
super generalization Peoplethat when they do get married,
i'm gonna go to guess thatthey've had a few people in
their lives that have alreadygotten married.
I'm gonna go to guess maybethat's how trends happen, maybe
that's how it happens, that'slike the psychology here.
They've been to a few andthey're like, well, i don't
(01:33):
wanna do that, i wanna dosomething different.
I've seen four weddings wherethey had, you know, donuts,
let's not do donuts, Let's do areally good cake, And then here
we go And then everybody startsdoing it again.
So who knows, that could be the.
I think we just figured it out.
I'm gonna close this podcast.
We're good trends done.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I was like wait, hold on what, no, but have you so
okay?
So with the cake conversation,i'm only saying this because I
have made.
So I had a wedding one timethat was running like kind of
late And we couldn't forwhatever reason we couldn't find
the matriotty who was likerunning the whole thing, and I
(02:12):
kind of, you know, my coveragewas coming to an end and there
was no cake cutting in sight,but the cake was there And so I
had my clients cut the cake andthey like asked, like is there a
specific way we're supposed todo it?
And I just kind of followedwhat I've always seen other
people do with the.
You know, like we're not stupid, i've done this, you've done
this, like we know how to cut acake, you know, and I always,
(02:34):
like you know, if thecoordinator offers to show them
how, where, whatever, i'vewatched so many.
You know This particular cakewas mostly a fake cake And so,
yeah, it was like all styrofoam,so I had them cut through
styrofoam.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh, I wish I saw that .
I was just hearing the noise inmy head as you cut.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, they kept going why is it so hard?
Like, why is it so hard?
And I don't even think my, idon't even think my couple knew
that most of their cake wasstyrofoam.
So like, okay when you say likethe big, that is hilarious.
The big cakes and stuff, rightIs?
I mean, is it even a thing tohave like a five tier cake and
(03:23):
have it all cake?
Like I don't know if that'slike a stupid question because
like how, and I know they havelike the support that goes up
through and sometimes they havethe different layers of, but,
like for a wedding, it justseems so risky, right.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
For it to all be cake .
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I understand why they're using styrofoam, but if
those types of cakes are comingback, are they actually gonna be
cake that is really served toeveryone, or are we just gonna
have the big beautiful cakesthat are mostly styrofoam,
because those are reallyexpensive too?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well, one thing so on that trends tend to come back,
but they usually always comeback with like a slight twist up
there something different,Something better, yeah.
Yeah, so maybe that's, maybeyou're so, i don't know.
I don't know the answer to this.
This is a good one, So ifanyone is listening and has
thoughts on this, would love toknow.
We gotta post this in the story.
This would be good.
(04:17):
Good question.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, i just I don't know.
I know that they can make hugecakes.
There are definitely likeedible, i mean they have like
sculpture cakes, sometimes, likewe watch all these different
baking shows, so I know it'spossible.
But for an actual wedding forit to be cut all I've ever seen
because I think since I'vestarted my career, mostly I've
(04:40):
just seen like the smaller cakeswhere it's just it's for
cutting and that's for photosAnd then they have some type of
other dessert that's rolled outto everybody and whatever.
I'm not sure that I've everactually seen a five or six
layer cake, that is, cake thatis cut up for guests.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I have not So, but I've also been.
I have been photographing inthe very as we're going.
Talking about trends, i've beenin the trendy world of small
cake, naked cake.
I've seen some bigger cakesabsolutely, but not five.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But were they fake?
So are they real or are theyfake?
You know what?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I can tell you that maybe one or two of them were
fake, mostly with a smaller cakefor the bride and groom, and
then everybody else gotsomething else.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, the small one on top and then the other ones
are styrofoam with buttercream.
So I have seen that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Now I'm thinking about it.
I definitely have seen that,but they didn't.
I maybe didn't think about itbecause I didn't see them cut
through the styrofoam.
So that is like 10 out of 10.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The coordinator came over to me like are you serious?
Oh yeah, no, that would begreat If I was the groom.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I would have loved to see that If I was the groom,
that would have made my night.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
That would have been hilarious, Have you seen?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
so?
but you did mention isn't itscary to have a cake that big?
because it's a risk, Have you?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
seen Just because of the big.
It's like such a big event, youknow.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Have you seen?
There was a recent video I sawspiraling around on on the
instas and the tic-tac about a.
It was a huge, huge cake thatthe two workers were bringing
over and it was a.
It was a very big wedding andthe thing just spilled over onto
the dance floor and the bride'sface was just, you know, oh my
God.
And the groom looked at it,started laughing and then the
(06:20):
next scene is him with a fork onthe floor eating the cake.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That's just like That's.
That's how you handle it.
That's how you handle it, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
That's how you handle it, because it's like
everyone's going to look to thebride and groom like what's
their reaction?
Like you unfortunately, arerunning the show on how to
handle this going forward Sothat's but that is a risk always
.
So I I can only imagine beingthe worker that moved that cake.
I, i personally all I've doneis rotated tables.
(06:47):
I just spin it around and eventhen I'm I am freaking out a
little bit.
I'm like usually have someonealways come and help me and give
a give, a spin on the table andthe spin is so I can get like
the right angle and thebackground for the light.
Yeah, I, just a fun thing forus photographers is the cake is
always in the corner and itlooks terrible.
It looks from a photographystandpoint.
that's the way to deal with.
I hate taking the picture ofthe cake in the corner because
(07:10):
the light hits the wall and itlooks bad and it's just boring.
So all you have to do is justspin it 360, and then you're
facing the room and all ofthat's blurred out and it looks
like this nice, you know, creamy, colorful, fun.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
But if you do that, you open the opportunity for
guests to crowd around the tableof the cake Like if, if, if the
dance floor is in the back andeverybody's trying to get photos
.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Oh, so I've never done it.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
When people are like deep in dancing, It's usually
still Oh no, no me either I'msaying like they, like they
gravitate towards the cake tablebecause they want to take
photos and stuff.
So if you're, if, if most ofyour backdrop basically is open
space, then the guests are morelikely to also crowd around.
So then you don't have thatlike moment with the wedding
(08:00):
couple.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So yeah, there's, of course, there's always that, but
I'm I'm even talking about justthe cake shop without the bride
and groom there, Like.
I'll do that on my own.
So, but yes, without,especially in a world of having
a, we're leaning into privatecake cuttings.
You'd have to be careful withthat.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Right.
So the other another likewedding trend that I saw was not
taking dads out of walking thebride down the aisle, but
basically the bride having themom and the dad walk down the
aisle so that it's not so, it'snot so much like the dad is just
giving her away.
It's equally as much.
The mom And then I.
So first of all, yes or no?
(08:36):
I say yes, two thumbs up, likeboth of your parents deserve
that moment.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, they both raise you.
I have nothing against that,literally none at all.
It's the, it's the concept of,it's that weird social norm that
you're just like well, no,that's how it's done.
You know that's I, you knowit's.
It's a nice sentiment, but whenyou find out the reasoning why,
from history, it's super weirdsuper weird So you know what it
(09:02):
is, Brooke, Can you tell us whatthat actually is?
And when people say, oh, givingher away, it's sound again in
modern culture.
it sounds cute, It soundsreally nice, But really what it
was is.
we're talking about Tradingcows and stuff for your product.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Like I said, yeah, we so we had for the listeners.
Like we had a podcast at onepoint that I think we're going
to have to rerecord because oflike the shitty sound quality or
something.
But we were talking aboutwedding traditions and why
exactly fathers give their brideor their daughters away, and
for the most part it was kind oflike trading your daughter into
(09:38):
a family in return for itemsand livestock and things like
that, which I don't know.
I don't really understand.
But so, to take that a littlebit further, i've been seeing
this trend of the bride and thegroom walk down the aisle
together, and I actually had abride meet her groom at the very
(10:01):
end of the aisle and then theywalked down together.
She walked a little portion ofthat herself.
Her dad also had passed away,so she didn't have her dad to
walk her down the aisle, so shewalked.
It was a gorgeous wedding on abeach, so she walked from this
cabin that she was coming out ofdown to where the guests were
and her husband well, her groomwas waiting for her at the very
(10:24):
end of the aisle And then theywalked down together as a couple
, which I thought was justbeautiful.
Yeah, I loved it And I wish thatpeople would do that more so
that they could have the photosof them coming in together and
then also going out together,because it is such a different
feel.
It's not you're not getting thesame photo with your
significant other because youhave all of these.
(10:44):
like, in the very beginning itfeels like you have nerves and
all of that, but then in thevery end, when you're walking
the processional is that whatit's, the processional you're
coming down and you have all ofthis excitement and looking for
another word.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Energy.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, it's like this fresh energy, like you just
kissed your person for the firsttime as a married couple and
then you're coming back down, sothe feeling of it is such a
different vibe And I lovedseeing them walk down together
And it was kind of like I justthought it was like the sweetest
thing, like he was waitingthere for her, he took her hand,
he walked down with her andthen, after their kiss and they
(11:24):
walked back out.
It was like a totally differentfeel, but I loved it so much.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Love it.
Yeah, i love it.
I love challenging the norm ofwhy do we do the norm?
and it's because somebody elsedid it or somebody told us to,
or sometimes it's family thatfeels that that was the
traditional thing.
Yeah, some people are.
they vibe really strong withtraditionalism and certain
things are nice, but it'spreference.
It's all preference becauseit's all.
(11:51):
I don't even think couples knowthat they can do this.
It's almost like you have totell them like you have the
power, you can do it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You can literally do anything.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
It's usually the conversation we have, like FYI,
because we get the question alot as photographers, you know,
when you talk to your couples aswe're approaching the date,
like you know, what do otherpeople do, and it's like, well,
first off, there's no wrong orright answer here, just to get
that off the bat.
But if you want to do somethingmore similar to what other
people doing, because it's lessattention to yourself and you
don't want to be the talk of thetown, understandable, fine,
(12:22):
let's go forward with that, youknow.
Or if you feel strongly aboutdoing it, but otherwise there
are no rules, there are no rules.
That is why we are here on thispodcast talking about this.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
So yes, your wedding day should be authentically you
and whatever that means to you.
If it means that, actually, mynext question bridal parties.
Bridal parties that are kind ofI don't think they're phasing
out, but I think that there isthis push of And I felt it
myself too where, you know, igot engaged and I felt like,
alright, well, just just becauseI'm planning a wedding doesn't
(12:55):
mean that all of my friends haveto put their lives and all of
their things on hold, like I.
Just I wanted it to be asseamless and easy as humanly
possible.
It wasn't because I didn't wantfor our friends to be a part of
our day.
I literally just felt like,okay, but why?
why are you gonna have to caterto me because of this huge
(13:16):
event that I'm throwing, youknow?
so I'm seeing that a lot ofbrides and grooms and wedding
couples are Moving away from thebridal party and, to be honest,
i love it.
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I Think it, this is, this is such my personality in
the mediator.
I Think it depends.
I think what I okay, what I dolove is seeing this push away
from having the, the need tomake everybody come and give
(13:48):
everybody gifts and or go toExtravagant locations and just
clean.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Come to Cabo with me.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's so much money that a lot of people especially
if you're you know If you're inthe wedding party.
If you're in a wedding partyfour or five times in a year,
that's a heavy cost.
Like that's a like you're notgoing on vacation that year, i
don't know, or you're going onmultiple vacations that you
didn't choose you didn't choose,yeah, so with friends that
aren't really your friends.
(14:16):
Yeah, i think the concept of ofWelcoming the most important
individuals in your circle toyou know, represent as a As a
sign that you know this is myimportant people.
I want them here on my day andI'm putting them in my party
because letting you know thatyou're a big part of my life,
(14:37):
like that, that generalsentiment in the wedding party,
good with it's all the baggagethat comes with it that I think
we just Do because that's whatsociety says to do for some
silly reason.
I'm so if it takes a shift of,you know, let's remove wedding
parties or make them reallysmall to get there to do that,
(14:59):
maybe that's a step in thatprocess, to kind of open that up
.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I Think the big wedding parties need to And I
don't want to say die out I.
I just think that when you havetoo big of a wedding party,
like, like I don't know I don'tknow how to say this without it
sounding rude like if I waschosen for a wedding party with
(15:27):
10 to 12 other girls, is it?
is it really feeling thatspecial for me to be a part of
that anymore?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Well, it depends on.
So this is where I would putthe.
I think it we're getting intopersonality types.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Some personalities have Yeah, i have two friends,
So who can I talk like I can'ttalk?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
we're too.
We're two different types ofintroverts on this podcast, but
we are both introverts.
So you and I both have a veryclose group of friends.
I think we can that's what itsounds like we can agree on that
.
Yeah, it's a very small circle,but there are people who are not
like that and they have a verywide circle And those are gonna
(16:05):
be your big 10 to 12 party.
So I think what we need to mymy like, big, like push on this
is Are you doing it because youreally do have a group that
large, that large that you wantto keep in your circle and
showcase them off and make themall feel special, or you're
doing it because You feel likeyou need to, where you've got
(16:26):
like four people and you're likewell, i can't have this person
because We you know, we werecollege friends, so I definitely
need to add this person andit's, you can just go, you can
go off the rails And then, whyare you?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
that's most of what I've seen, i think, which is why
I have like a.
I have like a Like becausethat's what I've seen.
It's it's kind of like well, icouldn't have my sister in my
bridal party without having hissister and my bridal party.
Yeah right, and it's like That'snot the reason to have them in
your bridal party.
I think that there should Imean there shouldn't be a limit.
(16:58):
I don't want to make it soundbecause I've had so many like
big bridal parties and they'reso fun.
They're so fun, but I feel likeyou Especially well, maybe you
know what though this might justbe speaking to like who I am as
a person in general because I'meven like taking less.
I'm taking less weddings, butI'm also taking more intimate
weddings.
So when I think about intimateweddings, having 10 people on
(17:22):
both sides of the bridal party,that to me feels like, well,
that's most of your wedding.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Man full circle here.
That aligns with your brandperfectly.
You're taking on less weddings,more intimate weddings, so that
of course you feel this way,which is that's a good thing,
because your clients shouldtrust you with that, because you
are literally living whatyou're.
You're walking.
The walk is what you're doing,so that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Just to be clear, i have like two friends.
I just thought I don't wantpeople to like drag me.
I have like two friends and Ididn't have any bridal anything.
I didn't have a bridal party.
We didn't.
We literally asked everybody towear a black and that was
everybody who came to.
Our event was important.
Everybody matched, everybodywas there to celebrate us And I
(18:05):
felt like having having a.
And my friends took me on asmall like.
We went for a day in Newportand Chad's friends took him to
like a nice dinner for hisbachelor party, you know.
But we didn't want to make itthis huge like.
Everybody spend all of thismoney because we're getting
(18:26):
married, like I just I reallywanted it to be as minimal as
humanly possible, which are theclients that I'm gravitating
towards.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
So it does make sense why I would be like big wedding
parties are out you know That's, that's, that is you That's so
when we say our brand, that's inthis world, our brand is us.
So that's that's a and you're,you're doing it.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Right, love that.
Can you think of any othertrends that you're seeing right
now?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
So.
I'll kind of we can go a littlebit quicker on these too.
So some of them are, so I'lltalk about that.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Oh yeah, let's do.
let's do that, We'll do thumbsup or thumbs down.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Thumbs up, thumbs down.
So what's out or what's inWedding hashtags?
That was a thing for a while.
I think that's down Who cares?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
It is Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
According to Vogue, it's down, So that's that's.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Okay, so if we don't agree, we're going to debate,
but other than that, we'll justkeep moving.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Okay, uniform bridesmaid dresses are out.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I don't really care.
I think there are certainstyles that look amazing
together all as one.
There are certain styles I dolove the idea, like the one
thing that really and this againgoes back to being like the
easy breezy bride is basicallylike I'm picking a color, you
choose the fit.
I think that it's.
It's really nice to be able togive your bridesmaids the option
(19:46):
to choose.
You know, i want to wear acrossthe shoulder or something like
that, because not everybody'sbody type is the same And
everybody, if you're to me, ifyou're spending money on a dress
, you should be able to wear itagain.
So I don't want to pick out theexact, you know dress that
you're going to have to wear formy day and never, ever again.
But as far as the matching ascolor wise, i've seen like
(20:06):
really cool floral ones Like.
So I'm thumbs up and down, likeI think that you can do
whatever you want.
You don't even have to havethem wear the same color, you
don't have to have them havethem wear the same style, it
don't matter.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I'd say some form of complimentary is what I would
lean on, because it's going tomake, but I'm biased, so I'm
looking for that for the whole.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But people are doing that for their whole guests,
their whole guest list.
They're asking, like you know,please wear bright colors, or
please?
we asked everybody to wear darkcolors and black.
I didn't realize that.
That's why.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I did not know that.
Oh, i you know a black tieevent.
You know something like that.
That would be the one time.
I guess that's the ask.
But when it comes to colors,interesting, didn't know.
I saw a TikTok.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, i saw a TikTok where they basically said wear
the brightest colors that youcan like, cause their day was
going to be so colorful or likeshades of pink stuff like that,
which I think is really cool.
But I think that that shouldalways be the option.
The guys, the guys have to bepretty uniform for it to look
good.
I do like sometimes when I seethat the like the groom is
(21:03):
wearing a darker color than therest of the guys, just so that
his stands out specifically.
But I think it's just asspecial when they have like a
special boutonniere or somethingthat just kind of like takes
them a little bit more of a stepaway from their look.
So I say thumbs up and thumbsdown, wear what you want, yep.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
On board with that.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Welcome bags into your hotel.
That is a apparently outgoingtrend.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It's very cute, but for the cost.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I think that's the reasoning Really for the cost
And I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I've checked into hotels and got one of those bags
and I love it.
I think it's so cute.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Can I do this?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, You're like I'm almost out.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Thumbs down almost out.
I think it's just anunnecessary expense that a lot
of people stress them out withThe bride and groom on those
last minute details.
It's nice.
It is nice to have somethinglike a handwritten card.
You know, here's a bottle ofwater.
I've seen, you know, advil ifyou're going to go out and drink
, like that's a nice littlething, but it's just.
You're usually at the wedding.
There's a, you know, some sortof blah, blah, blah, blah, some
(22:08):
form of a favor or somethingthat you're giving away.
So it's just, it's just a lotof stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I would say, in lieu of that, give everybody a small
folder with the itinerary, thebus schedule, all of that.
It doesn't have to be likewelcome bags with, you know, his
and hers popcorn and stuff likethat.
It doesn't have to be like thatYou can literally as long as
they check into their hotel andthey have some idea of what is
going on, i think leaving like alittle folder or even just like
(22:34):
printouts with like welcome,we're so glad you're here, but
you don't have to go heavy onlike the favors in the hotel
because for the most part I feellike, well, no, i used
everything that I got.
I ate all that popcorn.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I will say the weddings that I've checked into
and got a welcome bag, even ifit was a paper bag, but when you
get to the hotel and you checkin and you see them, because
they're on the front page.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, you definitely feel special?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, you do So.
I mean, even so, how about this, If you?
we're gonna do I think we'vechanged the boat.
It's either yay or nay, whichis what we've got a lot of
tonight.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I think leaving them with something is very nice,
whether it's a printout.
but I don't think that younecessarily should be putting a
major part of your budgettowards welcome gifts, If it's
stressing you out, then don'tworry about it.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Your guests are gonna .
They're gonna get there andhead over to your shuttle bus
and get over it.
So signature cocktails isapparently something that is a
trend going out.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Going out.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Boo.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Boo, I think I've seen I like the signature
cocktails.
Signature cocktails were goodwith.
I had agreed with that.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
We had a Nelly and a Gremlin and I feel like that was
there.
Like well, nelly ran around ourcocktail hour like a freaking
nut but that was our way of likeof getting Gremlin into our
wedding day because he wasn'tgoing to.
you know, he's a cat, he's notgoing to like say hi to
everybody.
But yeah, i think I think, boo,that it's going out, because I
like signature cocktails.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Signature cocktails, yay, yay.
Oh, the other one that's goingoh, here's a good, here's not on
the list, here's one that we.
My personal thing, so somethingthat I've been surprised with.
I thought I thought photobooths were going to go out and
I've been proven wrong.
I continue to see them thereAnd so what I've, what I
(24:25):
continue to see, is that we justneed maybe it comes from the
need to be stimulated, becausethat's our world now, with like
phones and everything.
So giving your guests somethingfun to do.
And a photo booth is just.
I'm going to very carefully saythe word.
It's not timeless, but I feellike it's close now.
It's been around so long and Ifeel like every time I've been
(24:47):
to a wedding and even if I'vesaid it out loud like, oh, yeah,
here's, you know, another photobooth, when you go and do it
with the people you're with,it's still fun.
It is still fun, like it's just,and then the bride and groom
get it.
They get all the photos,usually whether that's the
prints or both the digital's,and then you, as the guest,
sometimes get your little threeprintout photo.
I was wrong.
(25:09):
I was definitely wrong.
And here we are.
They're still going.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Do you think, though, that it's just as good to set
up a backdrop with props andhave, like, basically, people
taking their phone photos, causeI've seen that too, and I think
that that's kind of fun, likeyou just have like a corner
where you're not necessarilypaying.
You're paying for the backdrop,you're paying for all the props
, things like that, but you'renot paying for, you know,
(25:33):
basically, the service of likethe printouts and things like
that.
But if you had a like, oh, like, oh, the wedding hashtag, or if
you downloaded one of thoseapps where everybody could
upload their photos to the appand then the bride and the groom
or the wedding couple has it,have it at the end of the night,
i feel like that's just as good.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So two thoughts on that, one being, if you do that,
i've been to weddings wherethey had it set up and it was
just as fine during the day, butwhen the sun went down, they
had lights installed on thiswall and they weren't working,
and there's no one there that'sgoing to take care of it,
because it's not the venues,There's no vendor to take care
(26:13):
of it, It's just a guestsomebody And then and that's
what.
So they were asking me like, Oh, did you know how to fix this?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
And I was like I.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, i quickly looked in the back just to see
if I could help And I was likeno, i can't, you know, it's just
not working.
So it's unfortunate, because itwas in a dark corner and you
just have, and it was green Soit's just like dark green.
So that was kind of a littlelike Oh man, that's just such a
small little thing, and I'drelate that to during COVID.
There were a lot of which isstill sort of happening now.
(26:41):
Um, not as not even close tohow much it was happening, but
weddings that were doing the,you know, like a live stream and
everyone in their head thinks,oh, super easy.
But there were so many issuesthat came up And this was a
great example of this is why youhire professionals for things
that are only like a wedding,that's only happening once, and
(27:04):
each piece of that is eitherquick and it's only happening
There is no time for error Andif there is error, someone who
is familiar with said equipmentor whatever it is.
That's what you're paying foras well.
And I saw so many people dolive streams and so many things
came up that were like they'dput, you know, let's just say,
(27:25):
an iPhone on like a tripod andthe sun is out, and they didn't
consider that the phone is goingto overheat.
And when I phones overheat, itliterally happened yesterday on
a call I was sitting, i was justtaking in the sun and I was
sitting on the phone with aclient and I had the silly cause
I had the air pods in but myphone was out of my pocket and
it was just sitting on the deckand it was just.
It just got hot And then andthen what happens is it just
(27:46):
shuts off and just saystemperature, it's got to cool
down.
So there, i heard of thosestories And then I also heard
the wifi dropped, the, you knowthey quit it.
Just there's so many things thatcan go wrong as soon as you add
, of add something to your toyour day that, unless it's like,
i guess the best thing would bethe photo wall that you're
describing, because there'sthere's no technology with it,
(28:07):
but there just would have to.
If there's any form of a thinglike a light or something, have
a backup plan and assign that tosomebody.
Make sure that they'reresponsible to take care of it
which maybe you don't want yourguests to do.
You want them to have a goodtime.
So that's, and then, inherently, that's why you hire people to
do it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, my cousin had a .
she had like a separate room.
She got married in this likeolder house that had like all of
the quirky rooms and stuff.
She had like a room set up asthe photo booth and it was like
just a camera with like justlike a regular flash camera on a
tripod and they it was set to a10 second timer And so you
(28:42):
pressed it and you grabbed yourthing and you went in front of
the wall and then she got all ofthose on her camera, basically,
and she uploaded them toFacebook afterwards and it was
totally fine.
So I guess I've just seen itwork before and I've seen it
like look really good And Idon't.
I think if you can get theright, if you can get it to work
the way it's supposed to work,it it, you don't necessarily
(29:05):
need the actual photo booth withthe printouts and all of that,
because you can share them on onFacebook.
So, but I'm also of the world oflike, how can I save money?
and where, like I, i wouldnever pay for something like a
photo booth?
because to me I'm like, well,we all have our phones, we could
all do this thing if I set up,you know, like, and I have extra
cameras lying around too.
(29:25):
So you know, but that's just me.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So last one.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Sparklers and or fireworks.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Fireworks out.
I think fireworks are out.
I'm I'm good on the fireworksYou went.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Vogue.
Vogue thinks fireworks are outtoo.
You got it.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Oh good, you know me and Vogue were.
You guys are pretty tight.
Yeah, the sparklers, i, i just,I think it's out.
I think it's out, it's fun,it's okay.
Does it add much to the gallery?
To me, no, besides maybeburning my hair off running
(30:09):
through a tunnel backwards.
I don't know.
You know You also.
I feel like, well, you knowwhat?
Here's what I'll say.
I'm getting a package.
Here's what I'll say is, if youhave a bridal party that is
responsible enough to not gettoo drunk by the end of my
(30:33):
coverage, right, because Iusually don't stay until the
very last second, i'll stay forabout an hour of dancing And
then, if your bridal party isthe type that will be able to
keep themselves together untilmy coverage ends, take the
bridal party out, just thebridal party.
I think sparkler exits are veryoverwhelming And I think to do
it with every single person inyour reception.
(30:55):
I don't know That one's out forme, but bridal party, meh,
that's not too bad.
You could kind of take them outand do a mock exit.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
All here for that.
I do love the photos, thoughLike that's gonna be where we
separate.
I personally love the sparklerphotos, but what I don't like is
a unplanned and all the DJs ofthe world are gonna agree with
me when it's like middle, likeand it.
Just let's remove, let's getthis energy ramped up on the
dance floor and then we're justgonna cut it and bring everybody
(31:29):
outside.
I know for a fact DJs hate that.
Then they gotta start over andit's tough.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And then you lose half of your look Because it's
not a real sparkler exit either.
So, it's kind of like fake forthe photos, which is inauthentic
.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It is.
They've seen the sparklerphotos.
I get it.
I mean they look.
I personally like them.
I think they look really cool.
I also don't have long hairwith a ponytail that I need to
worry about getting burned offLuckily short short hair but I
still am always highly aware ofthe drunk guests that are waving
(32:00):
it around.
So I would agree I would leantowards keep it to your bridal
party.
If you were bridal parties topeople, that makes it tough.
So maybe your immediate family,but maybe 175 people with a
sparkler.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
But assign 10 people.
We're going out at nine o'clockand we're doing the sparkler
thing.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
It's so much And it takes a with 100 plus people,
like it takes a long time, Likeyou're losing 10 plus minutes of
your wedding And you only getmore.
Yeah, you only get, you know,maybe two hours of the dance
floor, like if that most of thetime.
So it's one of those things youreally got to think about it
And if it means that much to you, i'm here for the firework,
(32:38):
firework, the sparkler photo.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Okay, but fireworks Yeah fireworks.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, I'm sure If I could get a couple to like do a
dip with fireworks in thebackground, Oh, I love that.
That'd be great.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But Oh, you just have to have somebody get married at
the fourth, on the fourth ofJuly at Anthony's Ocean View.
That was the only time I everhad fireworks in my photos And I
was.
It was cool, but I was like Idon't know, is it worth taking
everybody out to watch thefireworks?
Me no, honestly, you know what.
Here's the thing.
It's not even about the photos.
(33:08):
The photos themselves arebeautiful.
I think.
Where I, where we agree on this, is just don't disturb your
entire reception for thesparkler and the firework What
you did before Exactly.
All of these hundred andsomething people, when they get
back in they're not gonna havethe same energy that they had
before they went out.
It's just.
It just doesn't happen.
(33:29):
I don't you know they're filingback in and now they want cake.
Or now you know they are gonnasit down for a little bit
because they just stood outsideand watched the fireworks.
So I would be.
I'm on the side of.
It's a yes for me, unless itdisturbs everything in your
reception.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Pretty much agree with that.
Yeah, 100%.
Yep, i think we've got it down.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Cause you're right, the photos are beautiful.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
They are, they do.
They're just cause when acouple's not gonna be able to do
that again, they're not gonnabe able to have that.
you know, a professional photowith the right cause it's very
hard to take iPhone photos with.
even if you had a Fourth ofJuly party and you're like, all
right, let's everybody gettogether and do sparkler dip and
do that, The iPhone photos arenot.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
It's hard to take professional photos of it
sometimes It is.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It's tricky And I'm almost every time there's.
I've got it down now, but evenstill there's always like a
little bit of a panic in me whenI do it, Cause we only get one
shot to do it.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
So And if you're going to do it, get the extra
long sparklers so that we haveenough time.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Please, please, the extra long sparkler, for God's
sakes.
All right, we are at one hourplus So you got any final words
for this episode.
This, this podcast.
We got.
I know she got, i should got abig guy there.
She was like Oh God, pressureson me.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
No, I think I just want to say that to the people
who are already listening to us.
First of all, thank you.
Like I know, we only have a fewpodcasts out It's and I'm going
to be totally honest Like Igive myself the ick when I
listen to these back.
It's, it's super, super weirdto hear.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
It's very weird, it's , it is.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But I do want to say that we're still working a lot.
The audio we're working on like, for example, i literally and
I'll just you know I've I've gotlike the sound barriers and all
of that, like we're tryingreally hard to make it so that
this is like the best it can bein your ears.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I think it's gonna improve every time because we're
going to be pushing theenvelope.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
So Me too.
I got a little scared on thelast one cause, like we, i heard
so many mouth sounds and youagreed, like we both were.
like, why did?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I, i worked on it for probably an hour and tried all
different things.
And I literally couldn't get itdown to it.
If I, if I removed certainsounds this way, then it was
doing other weird things And Iwas like well which one's worse
And that's what I had to startdoing was like this back and
forth, or I could have spenteight hours cleaning it up and I
don't have that time for this.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
No, no, but I just want to say thank you, like if
you're still listening to us andyou heard our mouth sounds and
it weirded you out as much as itweirded me out, like thank you
for just sticking through it,cause I do think it'll get
better every time, but we'restill trying to figure out, like
the audio and all of that.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Basically, what she's saying is apologizing for the
BS.
Hey, there you go, but it's allright because it's all BS, so
it's fine, everything So.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Do you have anything to say before we sign off?
No, i feel weird.
I feel like we have to have anactual sign off when we're like
here doing this thing.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
This is a first time we're doing video, so we'll do
more of these and see where itgoes.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
So Awesome, i guess we can stop the recording.
Beep, beep, and then does this,does it automatically like take
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