September 23, 2025 • 27 mins
🎧 Episode 182: Rewilding Your Life and Leadership with Aubrey Morgan Yee (Part 2)
In Part 2 of this conversation, futurist, systems thinker, and storyteller Aubrey Morgan Yee goes deeper into the wisdom and practices that help us lead with clarity and integrity in a world that often demands speed and urgency.
Aubrey shares why slowing down can actually accelerate transformation, how the “goo” of metamorphosis mirrors our own growth, and why rewilding and clearing our lives of mental pollution are essential for living with joy and purpose. She also gives us a glimpse into her upcoming book Our Beloved Futures, which calls us to remember our role as powerful co-creators of what’s next.
We explore:
- Why slowing down is the key to deeper clarity and better leadership
- The butterfly and the goo—what transformation really requires of us
- Practical ways to rewild your daily life when you feel stuck or disconnected
- How clearing “mental pollution” creates integrity, joy, and freedom
- Aubrey’s coaching programs—Chrysalis and Interbeing—designed for people in transition
- The non-negotiable morning rituals that keep her grounded and creative
- What swimming with wild dolphins taught her about presence and wonder
- The single piece of wisdom she would leave with the world
🔑 Key takeaways:
- Urgency requires us to slow down—not speed up
- Transformation often looks messy before it looks beautiful
- Clearing mental and emotional clutter opens space for new possibilities
- Leadership rooted in integrity and presence ripples outward
đź’ˇ Quotes to remember:
 “Times are urgent… we must slow down.”
 “The goo is the only way through.”
 “Integrity brings joy—when you’re clear, you’re free.”
 “We are co-creators of our beloved futures.”
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📲 Connect with Aubrey:
 Instagram – @aubrey.morgan.yee
 Podcast – Beloved Futures
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think food is a huge one, and I'm just going to
start there because I reallybelieve that, like the
biochemical makeup of our bodiesstarts to shift the way things
happen and just starting to eatcloser to the earth, so cleaner,
whole foods, as close to yourhouse as you can get them from
ideally a farmer nearby ifpossible, or, you know, farmer's
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market or whatever Like that'sa really simple thing you can do
and if you actually stick tothat for a little while, you're
going to see profound changes inyour mood and actually your
ability to think.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome to Evoke Greatness, the podcast for bold
leaders and big dreamers whorefuse to settle.
I'm your host, sunny.
I started in scrubs over 20years ago doing the gritty,
unseen work and climbed my wayto CEO.
Every rung of that laddertaught me something worth
passing on Lessons in leadership, resilience and what it really
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takes to rise.
You'll hear raw conversations,unfiltered truths and the kind
of wisdom that ignites somethingdeeper in you your courage,
your conviction, your calling.
This show will help you thinkbigger, lead better and show up
bolder in every part of yourlife.
This is your place to grow.
Let's rise together In part twoof Rewilding your Life and
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Leadership, with my guest,aubrey Morgan Yee, she shows why
slowing down is actually thesecret to clarity and better
leadership, the surprisingwisdom hidden in the goo of
transformation and simple waysto rewild your life when you
feel stuck.
This is a conversation aboutslowing down, remembering what
matters and stepping into afuture as co-creators of the
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world you want to live in.
Okay, let's hop into it.
The world often rewards speedand efficiency over what you
were talking about depth andreflection speed and efficiency
over what you were talking aboutdepth and reflection.
How do you help leaders slowdown enough to actually hear and
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actually absorb the wisdom thatis available to them.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's a really important one.
I'm saying it all the time.
There's a really great thinker,bayo Komolafe.
He says times are urgent, wemust slow down, and that's one
of my favorite quotes becauseit's like in that moment of
urgency you can see it whenyou're in a like we just had a
recent tsunami scare here inHawaii and feeling of urgency
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and I totally did not follow myown teachings.
I was like I kind of panicked.
I was in the middle of gettingmy hair cut.
I had to run down the street toget my kids, my daughter's,
freaking out.
We packed up the car, got up tothe safe spot kind of rushed,
got up there and I'm things.
You trip over yourself, youbump other people on the way.
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And that metaphor can be appliedto anything in leadership.
You know, when we're reallydealing with these intractable
big especially big systems,change efforts, something like
homelessness or trying torethink how we do the economy or
whatever it might be apolitical thing.
It's like it's such a tightlywoven knot already that if we
just try to jump in and justlike fling ourselves at whatever
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, we're going to waste energy,we're going to waste resources,
we're going to exhaust othersand probably create some harm.
So it's super important to slowdown and take the time to
understand.
You know there's an Einsteinquote.
I won't get it right, but hesaid something like if I had an
hour, I'd use 59 minutesthinking about the problem, in a
minute doing something about it.
Might not even be him that saidthat, but you know that quote
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it's a good one Because it'sthat idea of understanding what
you're dealing with first.
So really taking the time toask the right questions, to be
curious to you know.
Another thing I reallyencourage is to just know that
you don't know and like that'sokay, like it's actually really
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strong leadership to say that Idon't know and I'm going to try
to find out you know, and to beokay with not having the answers
.
We've been taught that we'resupposed to know and if we don't
know, something's wrong orwe're not doing a good job.
But actually, with you know,especially building towards new
things that we've never donebefore, we can't know the answer
.
If we know the answer, we'rejust going to do the same thing
over again.
So we have to really slow down,get super curious, listen
deeply to what actually ishappening.
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A lot of people in systems worktoo, will jump to conclusion,
just wanting to try step out.
But it's like did you actuallylook at what the system looks
like, as it is not how you wishit to be?
Again that clear-eyed kind ofview of reality.
It's like you know it mighthurt to look at it because it's
really messed up, but this iswhat's really going on.
And until we know that, wecan't think about where we can
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intervene and what we can do.
So I mean some just like simplepractices on a daily basis is
stuff like slowing down in themorning, having a morning
practice where you groundyourself, and it can be
something as simple asstretching for a few minutes,
writing for a few minutes.
Dream of consciousness.
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Writing is always really great.
A short breath work practicecan be really great.
Even just like slowly watchingyour coffee percolate can be
great.
You know, if you need to startsomewhere small, just start with
what's easy Watch the steamcome up from your coffee or tea
for a moment, but taking thattime to just slow down the pace.
Another thing I'll do a lot inmeetings or gatherings, online
or in person, is, especially ifwe're sharing a lot of
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information, to take a moment,close our eyes, take three deep
breaths, just slow down, let thebody catch up with the brain,
let everything kind of settlefor a moment, reground yourself,
become present and then go backinto it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So it's amazing how, when we slow ourselves down, I
mean it's it sounds a little bitcorny and there's I know
there's a quote about it, butit's like the more we slow down,
the more we can speed up,because I think we get so caught
up in.
You think about response,responsivity versus reactivity.
Right, and reactivity is veryemotion led and responsivity is
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very logic led, and thedifference in outcomes or the
process can be drasticallydifferent.
So when we're slowing down andgetting just more in tune with
ourselves, it's amazing how wecan lead from that more centered
, authentic place.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Absolutely yeah, and there's also a way in which you
know when you slow down and likeyou're saying, slow down to go
fast, you can actually slow downand then get into a flow state
which can feel fast, but it'syou've slowed down enough to
find the rhythm to get into thatflow.
So it's not like theerraticness of the panicked rush
, there's like a slowing down tothen get into the flow state to
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then move with a pace thatfeels maybe a little faster but
actually has like a fluidity toit and a smoothness that allows
new things to emerge and ideasto come Right.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, absolutely yeah .
Let's talk about your book.
You've got a book coming out inOctober, oh yeah, who is it for
?
What do you hope are thebiggest?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
it's called Our Beloved Futures.
So it's sort of you know.
And the title came at the end,which is funny because that's
been my brand for a couple ofyears now.
But I was like, oh, that's whatthe book wants to be called too
.
You know, I've been a poet mywhole life.
So it started out as a desireto amalgamate poetry that I've
written over the years.
But then through thatamalgamation came this other
thing that is now the book, thatis in its way of writing, is
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very kind of mythopoetic is thebest way I can describe it.
So it's a journey into thatidea of clear-eyed look at where
we are as a species on theplanet and then allowing the
grief of that to take us intoremembering that we're powerful
co-creators of the future.
So it's the hoped forexperience of the reader is to
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remember that we are earth, weare nature, we come literally
from the earth, and the earth isthis incredible technology, and
so is our bodies are thisincredible technology?
And when we can lean back intothat and remember that.
You know, we can see everythingthat's happening, but we don't
have to be collapsed by it,because we are co-creators of
our life.
When we find that pono spacewithin and that realignment we
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get to become part of thesynergistic sort of synarchical
upward spiral in our experience.
And that's the vision of thebook and that's where it takes
people on this journey.
I use the metaphor of thebutterfly and sort of the
caterpillar being the ultimateconsumer.
You know, eats, eats, eats,just gets fat, fat, fat, and
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then eventually goes into thischrysalis where it literally
melts into goo, becomescompletely formless, loses all
sense of its form and identity,and in that moment the imaginal
cells are what they're called.
There's these like little cellsthat have always been in the
caterpillar that are thenawakened and realize like I
don't know why I was here allthis time, but I have some
purpose, and they start to cometogether and that's what forms
the butterfly.
So if we look at that metaphorof metamorphosis of this, you
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know very profound change fromthe ultimate consumer to a
flying pollinator that thencreates life, and the really
painful experience of meltinginto goo, to become formless, to
be reformed.
I think that's the moment thatwe're in and that's kind of the
journey the book takes peoplethrough, to the other end of
knowing that we're creating ourbeloved futures together.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I love that.
I've got someone who hasrecently come in my life.
Her name is Mary Kay Durant andshe too is such a lover of
nature.
But she has introduced thatidea to me recently of the goo.
Like there's this beautifultranslation of it, but the goo
is actually so life-giving andit had me completely look at it
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so differently, and so I lovehow you framed that, because
that really is, that's theprocess, right?
That's the process of life.
Because that really is, that'sthe process.
Right, that's the process oflife.
Should you want to live it asfully as is given available to
you, there is some thing youhave to go through.
There's the, there's goo.
You know, whatever the goo isspecific to you, there's a goo
that we can get caught up in,and then that, too, can actually
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bring new life to us.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Absolutely.
Yeah, it's kind of the only way.
It's what we go through, youknow.
And so just embracing that partof the process instead of being
afraid of it or numbing outtrying to avoid it, yeah, when
we embrace that, then weactually push through to the
next thing, which is somethingwe could never have imagined.
You know, the caterpillar couldnot have imagined it was going
to someday be a butterfly.
It's such a profoundtransformation.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Well, and I think it's so interesting, there are
people who feel like they'restuck in that caterpillar phase.
They don't feel like they'rethis next thing, they don't feel
like metamorphosis is coming intheir future.
And so, for those people whothey feel stuck or they feel
disconnected, what is a simpleway that they could begin to
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rewild their own life?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, there's lots of different ways.
I've spoken about breath.
I think food is a huge one, andI'm just going to start there
because I really believe that,like the biochemical makeup of
our bodies starts to shift theway things happen, and just
starting to eat closer to theearth way things happen and just
starting to eat closer to theearth, so cleaner, whole foods,
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as close to your house as youcan get them from, ideally a
farmer nearby if possible, oryou know, farmer's market or
whatever, like that's a reallysimple thing you can do and if
you actually stick to that for alittle while, you're going to
see profound changes in yourmood and actually your ability
to think.
So I think that's one.
I also think the stream ofconsciousness writing whenever
I've been really stuck orfeeling really like, yeah, just
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depressed or off, or like justthe patterns of, you know,
negative thoughts are justrunning and I just can't stop
the tape Couple pages of streamof consciousness writing in the
morning.
The artist's way you know it'ssort of her famous thing is the
morning pages, but they'reprofoundly helpful and you just
write.
Even if you can't think of whatto write, you write I can't
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think of what to write, over andover again on the page, but
you'd be surprised what comesthrough, especially over time,
and you don't even need to readthem.
You can throw them out if youwant to, can keep them if you
want to.
It's just the act of getting.
It's like emptying the trashevery morning.
You're just emptying the trashof your mind.
You're emptying that stuff thatdoesn't need to stick so it can
be composted and you can have aclear head to actually receive
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the information that wants tocome to you about what to do
next.
And then you'll start to seenew information come in, new
instructions and all of thatstarts to shift.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
When you envision the future that we're co-creating,
what does it look like toactually apply the wisdom of the
earth, the wisdom of ourancestors, to pull all of that
into it?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Gosh, there's so many ways to go with that.
I like to focus on theindividual level just because I
feel like that's where we haveagency and, for people who are
listening, it's like somethingthey can do.
So, just starting to payattention to the life you've
built, like, what are the sillythings?
Like, open the cabinetunderneath your sink, like, what
products do you have down there?
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You know, are you buying thingsand filling your home, filling
your body, filling your spacewith products that actually are
not going to harm the earth?
Because there's so many optionsout there now, even inexpensive
ones, that you can go onlineand find these fancy things.
But it's starting to get intouch with, like, where have I
given away my power to living ina world that is actually
toxifying my body and mythinking and my way of being,
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you know?
So there's like I really dobelieve.
You know, for a long time, Ithink part of my frozenness was
this sense of, like the weightof the world on my shoulders.
How can I change all thesemassive systems?
And I think so many of us feelthat way.
We feel just stuck.
It's like it's all happening tous and there's no way I can
make a difference.
But you can start really smalland you can start in your own
life and there's so manyresources now with like YouTube
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and you know differentcommunities online that are
thinking about these things butto start to notice where in your
life there's toxicity.
That could be in relationships,that could be in what you're
using in your home, that can bein what you're putting into your
body, that can be in yourthoughts, and start to clean and
clear and detox.
You know I've shared differentpractices for doing that too,
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with like the breath work andthings like that.
But I really do think that whenwe start and I was telling you
about Interbeing and Chrysalis,which are two offerings that I'm
coming out with that are abouthelping people to do that, like
to see where we have toxicity inour life and to start to clear
it I mean, something that Iworked on years ago that I'm so
grateful for is clearing gossip.
That's a toxicity that we'vesort of been trained into in our
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lives like to just sort ofspeak about people in certain
ways.
That creates toxic thinking.
And I started to say to myself,well, what if I only said
things that I know I could sayto that person?
So sure I might still have aconversation about a friend that
I'm struggling with, but I'mgoing to talk to this other
trusted person in a way that'srespectful to that person I'm
struggling with, so thatanything I say about them I
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could say to their face.
And that simple shift hasactually created such clarity in
my being that I can feel anintegrity with myself.
So I think there's lots of wayswe can start to just slowly
shift and move.
And they say if you take a hugeship and you shift it one
degree to the left or right,you're going to go to a
completely new continent.
(15:29):
So it feels small today, but ina couple of years you'll be in
someplace totally new.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, someone recently that I had on the
podcast, at least in the lastfew months, talked a lot about
mental pollution and it likeit's with me.
So when you said that thegossip and the clearing of that
toxicity, that really came tomind.
Because I think we often we cango outside and we can see the
pollution in the air and thesmog and we can think about it
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in that way.
But when we bring it toourselves, when we think about
our own mental pollution, thatcould be a number of things.
Right, that could be ourautomatic negative thoughts that
we, you know that like to chipaway at us.
It could be gossip, it could bethings that we're engaging in,
but when we are actively tryingto clear ourselves of that
pollution and be reallyintentional about it, I think
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that can have a massive shift onpeople's lives.
Certainly they're meant to,absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, and the joy you know, and again, like it's just
when you start to reallyrealize that you're living in
integrity.
Then you can feel this likesense of pride and joy in your
own being.
I think we I know myself formany years lived in shame about
just little choices, big choices, things that you're like, wow,
I wish I hadn't done that.
And so starting to forgive forthat and move into a place where
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you can really feel anintegrity and clear, not
polluted in your thinking andthe way of being.
It.
Just it brings so much more joyinto your life.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And capacity.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, oh, it just.
It brings so much more joy intoyour life.
Yeah, and capacity yeah, oh,absolutely.
Do you want to talk a littlebit more about your coaching
programs when they're whenthey're coming, how can sure?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, absolutely so, chrysalis.
We were speaking of the goo.
It came from that, likerealizing so many people are in
the goo right now.
You know, I have a friend who'sgoing through a divorce,
another friend who's shiftingjobs, you know, and people I was
coaching in one-on-one coachingthat's.
Everyone was coming becausethey were in this moment of
stuckness, you know, fear,didn't know how to make the leap
across the chasm.
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So it really is that.
It's that journey of going,instead of across the chasm,
down into it and through.
So it's an eight week coachingcontainer where we'll do, you
know, on one week, talking abouta topic like grief, forgiveness
, we dive into sort of surrenderand trust.
So taking ourselves from facingwhat's happening to trusting
life again and understandingthat life is co-creating with us
, to then co-creating what's thenext step as I move through
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this phase of the goo and thejourney of change, and then
pairing that with breathwork, soactually going through, you
know, the somatic experience ofunderstanding where you are and
then releasing that out throughthe tissues.
So that's, chrysalis, and it'sfor people who are seeking to be
in a supportive, safe spacewith others who are going
through that process ofmetamorphosis.
And that'll start in thebeginning of October.
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So it's the first time I'mlaunching that and it's going to
be an ongoing eight-weekcontainer for folks who are
interested.
With my friend Pipa, who's basedin Portugal, who's an
incredible breathwork teacher,nutritionist, just incredible
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healer of all sorts, and we'vebeen talking for years about
this idea of how do we becomereally relevant change makers to
this time and this idea ofdetoxifying the whole body, mind
, spirit, complex, right.
So it's everything fromnutrition and understanding how
to eat better and to heal yourbody through food and water and
different ways of being withfood and water, and all the
different nutrition aspects andsupplements and all that stuff
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and even some genetic testingthat's available to folks if
they want to go that deep.
And then also the you know, thepractices like body work and
somatics that help you to clearyour somatic being, and then
sort of the, the other parts ofthe transformation, which is
finding the right ways ofthinking, being in integrity
with your life, finding yourlife's purpose and being in that
the same supportive containerwith incredible guest speakers
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and an in-person retreat inPortugal as part of the whole
seven-month journey.
So that's a deeper dive.
That's where folks are reallycommitted to like I want to
change my life and I want tocome out the other end as a
change maker, ready to lead, andthat'll be launching in the
spring of next year.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Wow, what a powerful experience.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm super excited It'll be.
You know, for us it's a 10-yearprayer, so we're like okay, at
least 10 cohorts, yeah, startingwith the first in the spring.
Wow, yeah.
(20:00):
And you talked about just someof your daily habits.
I'm really curious what doesyour?
What are those non-negotiableportions of your routine on a
day-to doing morning practice?
So I'll wake up about an hourbefore the rest of the family
because I have two kids that area little older now but they
still need me 11 and 13.
So I try to get up an hourbefore they will so I can have
quiet time.
I just love the quiet and thatpeacefulness of the morning.
So I'll do some sort ofmovement.
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I actually recently got thisthing called a vibrator plate.
I don't know if you ever heardof it.
It's amazing.
They're like a hundred bucks onAmazon and it's like it vibrates
but it's incredible for thelymph drainage and actually just
like waking up your your energy.
So I'll do that for a fewminutes.
And then I have a beamer mat,which is also like a PMF mat,
but you don't necessarily needthat, but I love it because it
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also like works with clearingyour blood and all kinds of
things.
But I'll sit on that and I'llmeditate and do sort of
contemplative whether it'smeditation or some sort of a
mantra or prayer thing thinglike that for about 20 minutes
or so and those two together arepretty non-negotiable.
From there, if I have time,I'll go and I'll sit and I'll
write.
So I'll pick up a book itdepends on what I'm reading at
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the time but some sort of acontemplative, either spiritual
book, or I'm really into theGene Keys, so I'll pick up my
Gene Keys book and get into thatand open up to a page and read
about my profile.
I don't know if you know thattechnology, but yeah, so do that
kind of reading and writing andcontemplation for about another
30 minutes, so altogether aboutan hour.
If I have more time, I'll justkeep writing and reading because
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I love that and then, if I can,I'll get out and go for a swim,
so you know, if there's enoughtime.
All in all it's about two hours, but I can like range it from
like minimum 20 minutes, whichis like the non-negotiable, and
then the rest, depending on howmuch time I have.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
And I'm curious, in swimming with the dolphins, more
just because I'm like so fat, Ijust that, I'm enamored by the
mere thought.
Do you like I mean activelylike what does that look like?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
when you're swimming.
Oh my God, it's amazing, soit's so life-giving.
So we live in it, on the NorthShore of Oahu and about 15
minutes bike ride from our houseor like a sixminute drive.
It's a place called Waimea Bay.
It's this beautiful bay.
In the winter it's got massivesurf, so it's like it's the home
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of the biggest surf contest inmaybe in the world.
It's the biggest paddle andsurf contest in the world,
called the Eddie I CowInvitational.
So wintertime huge waves,summertime flat as a lake.
So it becomes this kind of baywhere all the fish come in and
there's like big bait balls offish.
It's probably about 40 feetdeep, super calm, and the
dolphins love to come in thereand they actually rest and just
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relax.
So they come in with theirbabies in like a big pod of
sometimes up to a hundreddolphins.
And if you time it right, itvaries throughout the summer but
you can kind of get a sense ofwhen they're coming and so I'll
block that off of my calendarlike it's a meeting.
So I'm like, okay, from thesetwo hours in the morning I'm
meeting with the dolphins andI'll go to the bay and I'll just
swim out into the middle of thebay, even if I'm by myself.
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It's clear, really clear mostdays.
You can see to the bottom about40, 50 feet, so I feel really
safe.
But you have to be, you know, agood swimmer, decent swimmer,
and comfortable in open ocean,and then they'll come in and
just like swim beneath you, swimaround you.
I've had them come within likesix inches of my face and we're
just looking eye to eye and I'mcrying in my mask and I'm
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holding my heart and I'm justlike, thank you.
Universe Like this is soincredible.
So it's, yeah, it's anincredibly life-giving
experience and whenever peoplecome to visit, I try to take
them if we can, and a lot of youknow, a lot of times we'll go
out and there'll be tourists outthere and they're just, you
know, so filled with joy at theexperience because it's it's
really quite, quite magical.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's amazing how, how nature just gives those gifts
to us and how easily, if you'retied up in something else, that
you can miss it, and yet whenyou're open to taking it in.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Exactly, and that's why I put it on my calendar,
because if I don't, thensuddenly I'm like wait, I
haven't gone this week, and it'slike no, no, no, this is
something I'm committing tomyself because it fills my cup
so much.
I guess that's another thing toshare is, you know, find the
things that fill your cup and dothem.
You know, make them a priority.
Make yourself a priority,because if you're full and you
feel alive, you're going to doso much more for everyone in
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your life, the people you love,the people you work with and
work for.
I mean, it's just, it's a plusfor everybody.
So take that time, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, whatever it is.
Well, as we wrap up, there'salways a question I love to ask,
and that is, of all the thingsthat you have learned and
experienced and absorbed in yourlifetime and you have, and it
were, your last day on earth andyou have the opportunity to
impart one piece of advice orone sense of guidance with the
world what would it be, onesense of guidance?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
with the world.
What would it be, my God, thatjust brought me to tears.
I was thinking this morningabout my uncle, who passed away
in November.
He was my spiritual father, andso I got to experience some of
his last days on earth and theychanged me profoundly, and what
I would say is I pray to be ashe was.
(25:08):
What he showed me that was soprofound was his ability to be
at peace with what is, and sothat even in the process of
dying and knowing he was dying,he was in hospice at his house.
I asked him one morning I saidyou know, are you afraid?
Do you feel any fear?
And he said, paused, and he waslike, not really, I've never
(25:30):
died before, so I'm kind ofcurious what it's going to be
like.
And I started cracking up.
I was like, oh my God, likethat, that's it.
Like he wasn't fighting thesituation, he wasn't lamenting
the situation, he was being atpeace with what is.
And so if we can do that andreally show up in our lives and
(25:51):
see the miracle that it is tojust be alive, I think that's
going to.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You know, that's it for me being at peace with what
is yeah Well, I put everythingin the show notes but would love
for you to share.
Where can people find moreinformation out about the book
website?
Where can they find and followmore about you?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, so my website is ourbelovedfuturescom and then
my Instagram is aubreymorganye,and those are kind of the two
places where most everything isyeah.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Cool, everything is yeah Well.
Thank you so much for takingthe time and just sharing,
sharing your, your experienceand your way of giving back both
to yourself and and to theworld around you.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Sunny, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
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that make mediocre uncomfortable.
I think food is a huge one, and I'm just going to
start there because I reallybelieve that, like the
biochemical makeup of our bodiesstarts to shift the way things
happen and just starting to eatcloser to the earth, so cleaner,
whole foods, as close to yourhouse as you can get them from
ideally a farmer nearby ifpossible, or, you know, farmer's
(00:20):
market or whatever Like that'sa really simple thing you can do
and if you actually stick tothat for a little while, you're
going to see profound changes inyour mood and actually your
ability to think.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome to Evoke Greatness, the podcast for bold
leaders and big dreamers whorefuse to settle.
I'm your host, sunny.
I started in scrubs over 20years ago doing the gritty,
unseen work and climbed my wayto CEO.
Every rung of that laddertaught me something worth
passing on Lessons in leadership, resilience and what it really
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takes to rise.
You'll hear raw conversations,unfiltered truths and the kind
of wisdom that ignites somethingdeeper in you your courage,
your conviction, your calling.
This show will help you thinkbigger, lead better and show up
bolder in every part of yourlife.
This is your place to grow.
Let's rise together In part twoof Rewilding your Life and
(01:31):
Leadership, with my guest,aubrey Morgan Yee, she shows why
slowing down is actually thesecret to clarity and better
leadership, the surprisingwisdom hidden in the goo of
transformation and simple waysto rewild your life when you
feel stuck.
This is a conversation aboutslowing down, remembering what
matters and stepping into afuture as co-creators of the
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world you want to live in.
Okay, let's hop into it.
The world often rewards speedand efficiency over what you
were talking about depth andreflection speed and efficiency
over what you were talking aboutdepth and reflection.
How do you help leaders slowdown enough to actually hear and
(02:15):
actually absorb the wisdom thatis available to them.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's a really important one.
I'm saying it all the time.
There's a really great thinker,bayo Komolafe.
He says times are urgent, wemust slow down, and that's one
of my favorite quotes becauseit's like in that moment of
urgency you can see it whenyou're in a like we just had a
recent tsunami scare here inHawaii and feeling of urgency
(02:37):
and I totally did not follow myown teachings.
I was like I kind of panicked.
I was in the middle of gettingmy hair cut.
I had to run down the street toget my kids, my daughter's,
freaking out.
We packed up the car, got up tothe safe spot kind of rushed,
got up there and I'm things.
You trip over yourself, youbump other people on the way.
(03:06):
And that metaphor can be appliedto anything in leadership.
You know, when we're reallydealing with these intractable
big especially big systems,change efforts, something like
homelessness or trying torethink how we do the economy or
whatever it might be apolitical thing.
It's like it's such a tightlywoven knot already that if we
just try to jump in and justlike fling ourselves at whatever
(03:29):
, we're going to waste energy,we're going to waste resources,
we're going to exhaust othersand probably create some harm.
So it's super important to slowdown and take the time to
understand.
You know there's an Einsteinquote.
I won't get it right, but hesaid something like if I had an
hour, I'd use 59 minutesthinking about the problem, in a
minute doing something about it.
Might not even be him that saidthat, but you know that quote
(03:49):
it's a good one Because it'sthat idea of understanding what
you're dealing with first.
So really taking the time toask the right questions, to be
curious to you know.
Another thing I reallyencourage is to just know that
you don't know and like that'sokay, like it's actually really
(04:10):
strong leadership to say that Idon't know and I'm going to try
to find out you know, and to beokay with not having the answers
.
We've been taught that we'resupposed to know and if we don't
know, something's wrong orwe're not doing a good job.
But actually, with you know,especially building towards new
things that we've never donebefore, we can't know the answer
.
If we know the answer, we'rejust going to do the same thing
over again.
So we have to really slow down,get super curious, listen
deeply to what actually ishappening.
(04:32):
A lot of people in systems worktoo, will jump to conclusion,
just wanting to try step out.
But it's like did you actuallylook at what the system looks
like, as it is not how you wishit to be?
Again that clear-eyed kind ofview of reality.
It's like you know it mighthurt to look at it because it's
really messed up, but this iswhat's really going on.
And until we know that, wecan't think about where we can
(04:53):
intervene and what we can do.
So I mean some just like simplepractices on a daily basis is
stuff like slowing down in themorning, having a morning
practice where you groundyourself, and it can be
something as simple asstretching for a few minutes,
writing for a few minutes.
Dream of consciousness.
(05:14):
Writing is always really great.
A short breath work practicecan be really great.
Even just like slowly watchingyour coffee percolate can be
great.
You know, if you need to startsomewhere small, just start with
what's easy Watch the steamcome up from your coffee or tea
for a moment, but taking thattime to just slow down the pace.
Another thing I'll do a lot inmeetings or gatherings, online
or in person, is, especially ifwe're sharing a lot of
(05:36):
information, to take a moment,close our eyes, take three deep
breaths, just slow down, let thebody catch up with the brain,
let everything kind of settlefor a moment, reground yourself,
become present and then go backinto it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So it's amazing how, when we slow ourselves down, I
mean it's it sounds a little bitcorny and there's I know
there's a quote about it, butit's like the more we slow down,
the more we can speed up,because I think we get so caught
up in.
You think about response,responsivity versus reactivity.
Right, and reactivity is veryemotion led and responsivity is
(06:12):
very logic led, and thedifference in outcomes or the
process can be drasticallydifferent.
So when we're slowing down andgetting just more in tune with
ourselves, it's amazing how wecan lead from that more centered
, authentic place.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Absolutely yeah, and there's also a way in which you
know when you slow down and likeyou're saying, slow down to go
fast, you can actually slow downand then get into a flow state
which can feel fast, but it'syou've slowed down enough to
find the rhythm to get into thatflow.
So it's not like theerraticness of the panicked rush
, there's like a slowing down tothen get into the flow state to
(06:48):
then move with a pace thatfeels maybe a little faster but
actually has like a fluidity toit and a smoothness that allows
new things to emerge and ideasto come Right.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, absolutely yeah .
Let's talk about your book.
You've got a book coming out inOctober, oh yeah, who is it for
?
What do you hope are thebiggest?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
it's called Our Beloved Futures.
So it's sort of you know.
And the title came at the end,which is funny because that's
been my brand for a couple ofyears now.
But I was like, oh, that's whatthe book wants to be called too
.
You know, I've been a poet mywhole life.
So it started out as a desireto amalgamate poetry that I've
written over the years.
But then through thatamalgamation came this other
thing that is now the book, thatis in its way of writing, is
(07:34):
very kind of mythopoetic is thebest way I can describe it.
So it's a journey into thatidea of clear-eyed look at where
we are as a species on theplanet and then allowing the
grief of that to take us intoremembering that we're powerful
co-creators of the future.
So it's the hoped forexperience of the reader is to
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remember that we are earth, weare nature, we come literally
from the earth, and the earth isthis incredible technology, and
so is our bodies are thisincredible technology?
And when we can lean back intothat and remember that.
You know, we can see everythingthat's happening, but we don't
have to be collapsed by it,because we are co-creators of
our life.
When we find that pono spacewithin and that realignment we
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get to become part of thesynergistic sort of synarchical
upward spiral in our experience.
And that's the vision of thebook and that's where it takes
people on this journey.
I use the metaphor of thebutterfly and sort of the
caterpillar being the ultimateconsumer.
You know, eats, eats, eats,just gets fat, fat, fat, and
(08:40):
then eventually goes into thischrysalis where it literally
melts into goo, becomescompletely formless, loses all
sense of its form and identity,and in that moment the imaginal
cells are what they're called.
There's these like little cellsthat have always been in the
caterpillar that are thenawakened and realize like I
don't know why I was here allthis time, but I have some
purpose, and they start to cometogether and that's what forms
the butterfly.
So if we look at that metaphorof metamorphosis of this, you
(09:03):
know very profound change fromthe ultimate consumer to a
flying pollinator that thencreates life, and the really
painful experience of meltinginto goo, to become formless, to
be reformed.
I think that's the moment thatwe're in and that's kind of the
journey the book takes peoplethrough, to the other end of
knowing that we're creating ourbeloved futures together.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I love that.
I've got someone who hasrecently come in my life.
Her name is Mary Kay Durant andshe too is such a lover of
nature.
But she has introduced thatidea to me recently of the goo.
Like there's this beautifultranslation of it, but the goo
is actually so life-giving andit had me completely look at it
(09:45):
so differently, and so I lovehow you framed that, because
that really is, that's theprocess, right?
That's the process of life.
Because that really is, that'sthe process.
Right, that's the process oflife.
Should you want to live it asfully as is given available to
you, there is some thing youhave to go through.
There's the, there's goo.
You know, whatever the goo isspecific to you, there's a goo
that we can get caught up in,and then that, too, can actually
(10:08):
bring new life to us.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Absolutely.
Yeah, it's kind of the only way.
It's what we go through, youknow.
And so just embracing that partof the process instead of being
afraid of it or numbing outtrying to avoid it, yeah, when
we embrace that, then weactually push through to the
next thing, which is somethingwe could never have imagined.
You know, the caterpillar couldnot have imagined it was going
to someday be a butterfly.
It's such a profoundtransformation.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Well, and I think it's so interesting, there are
people who feel like they'restuck in that caterpillar phase.
They don't feel like they'rethis next thing, they don't feel
like metamorphosis is coming intheir future.
And so, for those people whothey feel stuck or they feel
disconnected, what is a simpleway that they could begin to
(10:52):
rewild their own life?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, there's lots of different ways.
I've spoken about breath.
I think food is a huge one, andI'm just going to start there
because I really believe that,like the biochemical makeup of
our bodies starts to shift theway things happen, and just
starting to eat closer to theearth way things happen and just
starting to eat closer to theearth, so cleaner, whole foods,
(11:18):
as close to your house as youcan get them from, ideally a
farmer nearby if possible, oryou know, farmer's market or
whatever, like that's a reallysimple thing you can do and if
you actually stick to that for alittle while, you're going to
see profound changes in yourmood and actually your ability
to think.
So I think that's one.
I also think the stream ofconsciousness writing whenever
I've been really stuck orfeeling really like, yeah, just
(11:39):
depressed or off, or like justthe patterns of, you know,
negative thoughts are justrunning and I just can't stop
the tape Couple pages of streamof consciousness writing in the
morning.
The artist's way you know it'ssort of her famous thing is the
morning pages, but they'reprofoundly helpful and you just
write.
Even if you can't think of whatto write, you write I can't
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think of what to write, over andover again on the page, but
you'd be surprised what comesthrough, especially over time,
and you don't even need to readthem.
You can throw them out if youwant to, can keep them if you
want to.
It's just the act of getting.
It's like emptying the trashevery morning.
You're just emptying the trashof your mind.
You're emptying that stuff thatdoesn't need to stick so it can
be composted and you can have aclear head to actually receive
(12:23):
the information that wants tocome to you about what to do
next.
And then you'll start to seenew information come in, new
instructions and all of thatstarts to shift.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
When you envision the future that we're co-creating,
what does it look like toactually apply the wisdom of the
earth, the wisdom of ourancestors, to pull all of that
into it?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Gosh, there's so many ways to go with that.
I like to focus on theindividual level just because I
feel like that's where we haveagency and, for people who are
listening, it's like somethingthey can do.
So, just starting to payattention to the life you've
built, like, what are the sillythings?
Like, open the cabinetunderneath your sink, like, what
products do you have down there?
(13:11):
You know, are you buying thingsand filling your home, filling
your body, filling your spacewith products that actually are
not going to harm the earth?
Because there's so many optionsout there now, even inexpensive
ones, that you can go onlineand find these fancy things.
But it's starting to get intouch with, like, where have I
given away my power to living ina world that is actually
toxifying my body and mythinking and my way of being,
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you know?
So there's like I really dobelieve.
You know, for a long time, Ithink part of my frozenness was
this sense of, like the weightof the world on my shoulders.
How can I change all thesemassive systems?
And I think so many of us feelthat way.
We feel just stuck.
It's like it's all happening tous and there's no way I can
make a difference.
But you can start really smalland you can start in your own
life and there's so manyresources now with like YouTube
(14:04):
and you know differentcommunities online that are
thinking about these things butto start to notice where in your
life there's toxicity.
That could be in relationships,that could be in what you're
using in your home, that can bein what you're putting into your
body, that can be in yourthoughts, and start to clean and
clear and detox.
You know I've shared differentpractices for doing that too,
(14:25):
with like the breath work andthings like that.
But I really do think that whenwe start and I was telling you
about Interbeing and Chrysalis,which are two offerings that I'm
coming out with that are abouthelping people to do that, like
to see where we have toxicity inour life and to start to clear
it I mean, something that Iworked on years ago that I'm so
grateful for is clearing gossip.
That's a toxicity that we'vesort of been trained into in our
(14:46):
lives like to just sort ofspeak about people in certain
ways.
That creates toxic thinking.
And I started to say to myself,well, what if I only said
things that I know I could sayto that person?
So sure I might still have aconversation about a friend that
I'm struggling with, but I'mgoing to talk to this other
trusted person in a way that'srespectful to that person I'm
struggling with, so thatanything I say about them I
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could say to their face.
And that simple shift hasactually created such clarity in
my being that I can feel anintegrity with myself.
So I think there's lots of wayswe can start to just slowly
shift and move.
And they say if you take a hugeship and you shift it one
degree to the left or right,you're going to go to a
completely new continent.
(15:29):
So it feels small today, but ina couple of years you'll be in
someplace totally new.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, someone recently that I had on the
podcast, at least in the lastfew months, talked a lot about
mental pollution and it likeit's with me.
So when you said that thegossip and the clearing of that
toxicity, that really came tomind.
Because I think we often we cango outside and we can see the
pollution in the air and thesmog and we can think about it
(15:54):
in that way.
But when we bring it toourselves, when we think about
our own mental pollution, thatcould be a number of things.
Right, that could be ourautomatic negative thoughts that
we, you know that like to chipaway at us.
It could be gossip, it could bethings that we're engaging in,
but when we are actively tryingto clear ourselves of that
pollution and be reallyintentional about it, I think
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that can have a massive shift onpeople's lives.
Certainly they're meant to,absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, and the joy you know, and again, like it's just
when you start to reallyrealize that you're living in
integrity.
Then you can feel this likesense of pride and joy in your
own being.
I think we I know myself formany years lived in shame about
just little choices, big choices, things that you're like, wow,
I wish I hadn't done that.
And so starting to forgive forthat and move into a place where
(16:44):
you can really feel anintegrity and clear, not
polluted in your thinking andthe way of being.
It.
Just it brings so much more joyinto your life.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And capacity.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, oh, it just.
It brings so much more joy intoyour life.
Yeah, and capacity yeah, oh,absolutely.
Do you want to talk a littlebit more about your coaching
programs when they're whenthey're coming, how can sure?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, absolutely so, chrysalis.
We were speaking of the goo.
It came from that, likerealizing so many people are in
the goo right now.
You know, I have a friend who'sgoing through a divorce,
another friend who's shiftingjobs, you know, and people I was
coaching in one-on-one coachingthat's.
Everyone was coming becausethey were in this moment of
stuckness, you know, fear,didn't know how to make the leap
across the chasm.
(17:27):
So it really is that.
It's that journey of going,instead of across the chasm,
down into it and through.
So it's an eight week coachingcontainer where we'll do, you
know, on one week, talking abouta topic like grief, forgiveness
, we dive into sort of surrenderand trust.
So taking ourselves from facingwhat's happening to trusting
life again and understandingthat life is co-creating with us
, to then co-creating what's thenext step as I move through
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this phase of the goo and thejourney of change, and then
pairing that with breathwork, soactually going through, you
know, the somatic experience ofunderstanding where you are and
then releasing that out throughthe tissues.
So that's, chrysalis, and it'sfor people who are seeking to be
in a supportive, safe spacewith others who are going
through that process ofmetamorphosis.
And that'll start in thebeginning of October.
(18:10):
So it's the first time I'mlaunching that and it's going to
be an ongoing eight-weekcontainer for folks who are
interested.
With my friend Pipa, who's basedin Portugal, who's an
incredible breathwork teacher,nutritionist, just incredible
(18:31):
healer of all sorts, and we'vebeen talking for years about
this idea of how do we becomereally relevant change makers to
this time and this idea ofdetoxifying the whole body, mind
, spirit, complex, right.
So it's everything fromnutrition and understanding how
to eat better and to heal yourbody through food and water and
different ways of being withfood and water, and all the
different nutrition aspects andsupplements and all that stuff
(18:52):
and even some genetic testingthat's available to folks if
they want to go that deep.
And then also the you know, thepractices like body work and
somatics that help you to clearyour somatic being, and then
sort of the, the other parts ofthe transformation, which is
finding the right ways ofthinking, being in integrity
with your life, finding yourlife's purpose and being in that
the same supportive containerwith incredible guest speakers
(19:14):
and an in-person retreat inPortugal as part of the whole
seven-month journey.
So that's a deeper dive.
That's where folks are reallycommitted to like I want to
change my life and I want tocome out the other end as a
change maker, ready to lead, andthat'll be launching in the
spring of next year.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Wow, what a powerful experience.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm super excited It'll be.
You know, for us it's a 10-yearprayer, so we're like okay, at
least 10 cohorts, yeah, startingwith the first in the spring.
Wow, yeah.
(20:00):
And you talked about just someof your daily habits.
I'm really curious what doesyour?
What are those non-negotiableportions of your routine on a
day-to doing morning practice?
So I'll wake up about an hourbefore the rest of the family
because I have two kids that area little older now but they
still need me 11 and 13.
So I try to get up an hourbefore they will so I can have
quiet time.
I just love the quiet and thatpeacefulness of the morning.
So I'll do some sort ofmovement.
(20:22):
I actually recently got thisthing called a vibrator plate.
I don't know if you ever heardof it.
It's amazing.
They're like a hundred bucks onAmazon and it's like it vibrates
but it's incredible for thelymph drainage and actually just
like waking up your your energy.
So I'll do that for a fewminutes.
And then I have a beamer mat,which is also like a PMF mat,
but you don't necessarily needthat, but I love it because it
(20:43):
also like works with clearingyour blood and all kinds of
things.
But I'll sit on that and I'llmeditate and do sort of
contemplative whether it'smeditation or some sort of a
mantra or prayer thing thinglike that for about 20 minutes
or so and those two together arepretty non-negotiable.
From there, if I have time,I'll go and I'll sit and I'll
write.
So I'll pick up a book itdepends on what I'm reading at
(21:05):
the time but some sort of acontemplative, either spiritual
book, or I'm really into theGene Keys, so I'll pick up my
Gene Keys book and get into thatand open up to a page and read
about my profile.
I don't know if you know thattechnology, but yeah, so do that
kind of reading and writing andcontemplation for about another
30 minutes, so altogether aboutan hour.
If I have more time, I'll justkeep writing and reading because
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I love that and then, if I can,I'll get out and go for a swim,
so you know, if there's enoughtime.
All in all it's about two hours, but I can like range it from
like minimum 20 minutes, whichis like the non-negotiable, and
then the rest, depending on howmuch time I have.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
And I'm curious, in swimming with the dolphins, more
just because I'm like so fat, Ijust that, I'm enamored by the
mere thought.
Do you like I mean activelylike what does that look like?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
when you're swimming.
Oh my God, it's amazing, soit's so life-giving.
So we live in it, on the NorthShore of Oahu and about 15
minutes bike ride from our houseor like a sixminute drive.
It's a place called Waimea Bay.
It's this beautiful bay.
In the winter it's got massivesurf, so it's like it's the home
(22:13):
of the biggest surf contest inmaybe in the world.
It's the biggest paddle andsurf contest in the world,
called the Eddie I CowInvitational.
So wintertime huge waves,summertime flat as a lake.
So it becomes this kind of baywhere all the fish come in and
there's like big bait balls offish.
It's probably about 40 feetdeep, super calm, and the
dolphins love to come in thereand they actually rest and just
(22:34):
relax.
So they come in with theirbabies in like a big pod of
sometimes up to a hundreddolphins.
And if you time it right, itvaries throughout the summer but
you can kind of get a sense ofwhen they're coming and so I'll
block that off of my calendarlike it's a meeting.
So I'm like, okay, from thesetwo hours in the morning I'm
meeting with the dolphins andI'll go to the bay and I'll just
swim out into the middle of thebay, even if I'm by myself.
(22:56):
It's clear, really clear mostdays.
You can see to the bottom about40, 50 feet, so I feel really
safe.
But you have to be, you know, agood swimmer, decent swimmer,
and comfortable in open ocean,and then they'll come in and
just like swim beneath you, swimaround you.
I've had them come within likesix inches of my face and we're
just looking eye to eye and I'mcrying in my mask and I'm
(23:17):
holding my heart and I'm justlike, thank you.
Universe Like this is soincredible.
So it's, yeah, it's anincredibly life-giving
experience and whenever peoplecome to visit, I try to take
them if we can, and a lot of youknow, a lot of times we'll go
out and there'll be tourists outthere and they're just, you
know, so filled with joy at theexperience because it's it's
really quite, quite magical.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's amazing how, how nature just gives those gifts
to us and how easily, if you'retied up in something else, that
you can miss it, and yet whenyou're open to taking it in.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Exactly, and that's why I put it on my calendar,
because if I don't, thensuddenly I'm like wait, I
haven't gone this week, and it'slike no, no, no, this is
something I'm committing tomyself because it fills my cup
so much.
I guess that's another thing toshare is, you know, find the
things that fill your cup and dothem.
You know, make them a priority.
Make yourself a priority,because if you're full and you
feel alive, you're going to doso much more for everyone in
(24:15):
your life, the people you love,the people you work with and
work for.
I mean, it's just, it's a plusfor everybody.
So take that time, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, whatever it is.
Well, as we wrap up, there'salways a question I love to ask,
and that is, of all the thingsthat you have learned and
experienced and absorbed in yourlifetime and you have, and it
were, your last day on earth andyou have the opportunity to
impart one piece of advice orone sense of guidance with the
world what would it be, onesense of guidance?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
with the world.
What would it be, my God, thatjust brought me to tears.
I was thinking this morningabout my uncle, who passed away
in November.
He was my spiritual father, andso I got to experience some of
his last days on earth and theychanged me profoundly, and what
I would say is I pray to be ashe was.
(25:08):
What he showed me that was soprofound was his ability to be
at peace with what is, and sothat even in the process of
dying and knowing he was dying,he was in hospice at his house.
I asked him one morning I saidyou know, are you afraid?
Do you feel any fear?
And he said, paused, and he waslike, not really, I've never
(25:30):
died before, so I'm kind ofcurious what it's going to be
like.
And I started cracking up.
I was like, oh my God, likethat, that's it.
Like he wasn't fighting thesituation, he wasn't lamenting
the situation, he was being atpeace with what is.
And so if we can do that andreally show up in our lives and
(25:51):
see the miracle that it is tojust be alive, I think that's
going to.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You know, that's it for me being at peace with what
is yeah Well, I put everythingin the show notes but would love
for you to share.
Where can people find moreinformation out about the book
website?
Where can they find and followmore about you?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, so my website is ourbelovedfuturescom and then
my Instagram is aubreymorganye,and those are kind of the two
places where most everything isyeah.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Cool, everything is yeah Well.
Thank you so much for takingthe time and just sharing,
sharing your, your experienceand your way of giving back both
to yourself and and to theworld around you.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Sunny, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
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a fire in your soul, don't keepit to yourself.
Episode challenged you, movedyou or lit a fire in your soul,
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It's the best way to say thankyou and help this show reach
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podcast, it's a movement.
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bold and unapologetic step at atime.
Until next time, stay bold,stay grounded and make moves
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