Episode 40- Embracing Leadership and Growth with Ken Joslin

In this episode, Princeton Clark interviews Ken Joslin, CEO of the Ken Joslin team, and Grow Stack Drive. They discuss Ken's journey, the wisdom he has gained, and the code he lives by. They explore topics such as self-mastery, awareness, and the power of language. Ken shares his experiences and epiphanies that have helped him navigate challenges and grow as a leader. The conversation emphasizes the importance of taking action and focusing on what truly matters. In this conversation, Ken and Princeton discuss the importance of personal growth and self-control. They emphasize the need to focus on becoming the person you desire to be and the steps required to achieve that. They also highlight the significance of surrendering what you can't control and honoring what you can. The conversation explores the awareness of focus, time, finances, and sexual desires. They stress the value of living by a code, leaning into the uncomfortable, and establishing daily routines. Finally, they discuss the power of servant leadership and putting others first.

Takeaways

• Self-mastery and control are essential for personal growth and leadership.
• Awareness of energy, language, and thoughts can lead to positive change.
• Challenges and setbacks can be opportunities for healing and transformation.
• Taking action and focusing on what truly matters are key to manifesting success. Focus on becoming the person you desire to be and take the necessary steps to achieve that.
• Surrender what you can't control and honor what you can.
• Be aware of your focus, time, finances, and sexual desires.
• Exercise self-control and live by a code.
• Establish daily routines and lean into the uncomfortable.
• Practice servant leadership and put others first.

Find Ken on Instagram: @kenjoslin
Grow Stack Drive: growstackdrive.com

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's going on?
Evolve Mastery family,princeton Clark here.
I hope you guys are having abeautiful day, week, month,
whenever this catches you.
If you're not catching theepisode when it first goes up, I
just want to just say thank youand I send so much love to your
lives.
Guys, I have an amazinginterview today with my friend,
ken Jocelyn, and we had anamazing conversation and we dove

(00:21):
into his journey, the wisdomthat he's gained and everything
that he's been able to createwith his life, the relationships
that he's built, the way thathe's grown, the code that he
lives by and so many otherthings.
And I'm really excited.
Ken is one of those people whoyou get around him and you can
just feel that he just lives bythe strong moral, spiritual,

(00:42):
physical code in his life.
And he's been such an amazingleader.
And I just want to get straightinto this podcast.
Ken is the CEO of the KenJocelyn team and growth stack
drive.
He's also a dynamic pastorturned coach real estate
powerhouse renowned for hostingthe number one faith based
entrepreneur conference Create,and steering the as the leader

(01:05):
grows podcast.
Ken has great stages alongsideindustry Titans like John
Maxwell and Grant Cardone,leading the exclusive GSD elite.
Mastermind for top earners.
Ken has also closed over 250million in real estate
transactions.
His best selling book as theleader grows a test to his
expertise, success, prowess, andentrepreneurs turned to Ken for

(01:28):
his coaching, focusing onbuilding confidence, gaining
clarity and creating community.
This podcast has just been onethat I'm just really excited to
share with you guys because, asI said, I bring different people
on here, who walk differentpaths, who gained different
wisdom, many paths to the samesummit, so to speak, in this

(01:50):
experience that we call life,and so, without further ado,
we're going to go ahead and getand jump right into this
conversation.
So, sit back, grab some coffee,some popcorn, whatever it is
that you want to grab that getsyou comfortable, get you in a
peaceful state, or, if you'redriving, just focus in, mellow
in and ride along with us today.
Enjoy the show.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, I am, yes, I am.
All you know.
I want to guess.
I am Honey miles up.
So, yes, I can.
Is it all the same?
Yes, I am, yes, I am, yes, I am, it's my life.
So I tell me I'm more rightthan it helps me realize that
I'm wealthy, rich in passion,rich in magic.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
It's my life.
So I tell me I'm more rightthan it helps me.
What's going on?
Evolve Mastery family.
It's your host, princeton Clark, and, as I said, today I have
an amazing guest, the amazingKen Jocelyn, this beautiful soul
who has just been impactinglives all over the place, and I
could go on and on just abouthow much I respect and honor him

(03:23):
as a servant leader in thespace of entrepreneurship,
business ownership, leadership,spiritual development, conscious
development.
I could just go on, guys, butwe're going to jump into this
segment and, as you guys know,this is for different people
from different walks of life,sharing their story, how they're
showing up in that space ofself mastery, what that looks
like for them, their habits, theareas that they've gotten to

(03:46):
grow in, and we're going to goahead and dive into this podcast
.
Ken, I'm so grateful to haveyou here today, man, welcome,
welcome, welcome.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Dude, honored man, I'm honored to be here.
It was great being with you andyour crew this week doing
leadership development andtraining.
And, man, I just love watchingpeople who have a desire to
become the best version ofthemselves.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Mm, hmm, it was awesome.
I appreciate you showing up andI know one of the attendees
signed up for your event inAtlanta and you talked about the
power of proximity and you justwent deep into that, sharing
how you made your connections,and it really sparked in people
Cause I think a lot of peopledon't realize the power of
proximity and just how that's asecret sauce man.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yes, Relationships or everything.
As a matter of fact, her and Ihad a zoom call and cause she
went through my podcast and shewas like, hey, can you connect
me with Dr Rob Kelly, can youget?
So I literally just picked thephone up and I was like, hey, dr
Rob, you need to meet thisperson.
Hey, you need to meet this.
And I just literally connectedwith two people on the spot
after our zoom call.
That I knew that would be, thatwould be great relationships
for her in what she's doing andwhat she's trying to accomplish.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Awesome man and you having those great relationships
yourself says a lot about you.
They say your vibe attractsyour tribe man and you have a
very discerning spirit and Ijust honored that about you.
But this journey where you areright now, you've created
massive levels of success,massive level of connection.
But, as we know, the journeydoesn't start at the success and
I want you to share a littlebit of yourself with the

(05:07):
audience.
Where did that journey oftransition into moving towards
this start for you?
Yeah, a couple.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Probably it was January.
The 27th of 2020 is the firsttime I spoke from for our friend
, grant Cardone, down at 10 Xheadquarters.
He had me down.
I spoke to the whole team atthat time it's about 180 people
and then later that day I spoketo all the licensees.
They just started the licenseeprogram and I finished up and
Jared and Grant were in the backof the room and I get done and

(05:34):
I'm walking around the side andRichie was there, because Richie
dollars run the licenseeprogram.
Then and Jared look at me goesdid you really good?
He goes.
I said dude, I've been on stagefor 20 years.
Every Thursday when I pastored,I would go in and preach to an
empty auditorium.
My team would sit in the backand they'd run the bumper video

(05:55):
for the last 10 seconds.
I'd get up.
Hey, good morning guys.
My name is Ken.
I'm the lead pastor here atLifeChurch.
I just want to welcome youtoday, man.
We're honored that you're again, and I would go through my
whole message.
My team would sit there and I'dgo okay, what was good?
Where did it?
Where do I need to drill?
Only, where did I connect withyou and what do I need to leave
out.
And then every Sunday betweenmy services, I would meet behind

(06:18):
stage with my team for abouttwo minutes.
Hey, where did I connect withyou big time this morning?
What do I need to leave out?
What do I need to spend moretime in?
And then we'd go past the campBoom, boom, great.
So Monday's I would listen toor watch my message from Sunday
and our good friend Greg Reedand Sharon Lector.
They write in the three feetfrom gold book a 23 year

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overnight success.
Like it's work.
Like it's putting in the work.
My big state, my first big stage, 20 plus years ago, was in
front of 9,000 people and I hadto speak behind John Maxwell.
Like, try that out, when you're32 years old and you're
standing on stage in front of9,000 people and you're going
behind John.
I've done that this year withmy fourth or fifth time I spoke

(07:01):
behind John.
I joke with him every year atmy conference.
I'm like I'm never doing thatagain.
You suck all the air out of theroom, but the reality of it is
it started a long time ago.
Like you still wake up and youcan command a room.
Like it takes time and practice.
It's the 10,000 hour deal.
Right, you've got to put in thework, and I think the problem is

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for a lot of leaders, princetonis we're afraid to put in the
work because we don't feel likewe're good enough.
We'd look at the results.
People go I'm going to start apodcast.
I'll do results on the phonesthis week.
I want to start a podcast break.
What do you need to know?
I don't really have a mic list.
I'll send you the whole list.
You need to go ahead and orderit today on Amazon.
You need to start recordingnext week, but I don't know what

(07:42):
I'm doing.
Great that's per year, in aperfect position.
Just Jim rowing.
My favorite Jim rowing quotesays speed increases focus.
You just have to take actionand as you take action, you're
going.
Oh okay, I need to tweak this.
I need to change this.
The reason that it's hard isbecause we're in love with the
destination and not the journey.

(08:04):
Yes, bro, you've been doingthis a long time too.
You got all that gray beard,just like I do.
Minds just a little shorterthan yours is why you can't see
it as good.
But the reality of it is dude,as we both know.
It's about the journey man.
It's about the people.
It's about being on your call.
I got emotional on your callthe other day sharing my story
about all the relationship.
It's about the people that youget to interact with.

(08:24):
It's about man, who can I pourinto?
Who can I help?
Every interaction If you're agreat leader, every interaction
you have with people they shouldlead that interaction, whether
it's the text message, a phonecall, a zoom call, a podcast,
like we're on today.
Whether you're on a stage,whether you're at a Publix or at

(08:46):
a restaurant and you'reinteracting with your server.
Every interaction you have as agreat leader, people should
walk away feeling better aboutthemselves, encouraged,
empowered to become the bestversion of themselves 100%, man,
I 100% agree and you're exactlyright.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
A lot of people this that I was really excited about
this podcast because we'respeaking to leaders, right,
we're speaking to entrepreneurs,we're speaking to those who
know that they've been called tomanifest something great.
And one of my favorite passagesis many are called, or all are
called, but few are chosen.
You know, and when I read thetranslation, I went deeper into

(09:24):
the translation and what itultimately translates into when
you read it at the rawest form,is all are called, but few
accept the call of the chosen.
We all have the dominion onthis plane to create something
great, to lead something great,to manifest something great, but
are you willing to own yourdominion?
Are you willing to show up in away that honors that desired

(09:48):
result, in a way that'sconsistent and committed to the
process, putting in, as you said, that 10,000?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
hours.
I heard a video this morning onInstagram and I've never
thought of it this way.
I never thought about it.
Now.
I heard it this morning as areal popped up on my phone I
don't remember who it was andthey said you say you want with
the 1%, have, but are youwilling to do with the 99%?
Won't do.
I was like, oh, that's good,that's good and literally it's

(10:16):
so funny.
This year, in between Christmasand New Year's I was homeless.
I rent my house's Airbnb and Ididn't block it out for
Christmas Last minute.
Somebody rents my house for the24th to the 30th.
So I'm like, where am I goingto go?
So I call my buddy, nate, whoworked for John Maxwell forever
and they just want to bestfriends in Atlanta, and so I go

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over the day before ChristmasEve.
So this Saturday, nate and hisfamily, I do Christmas with them
.
I just did Christmas with mydaughters on Friday, sunday
Christmas Eve, saturday orMonday Christmas, and the rest
of the week I'm all by myself.
So I've got these giant post-itnotes all over Nate's apartment
.
I'm planning for 2024.
I get a call on Tuesday orWednesday from Nate's, I get a

(10:56):
text from Nate's girlfriend andYarros texts me.
She goes hey, me and Suzy, oneof her friends, we want to go to
Roaring Social tonight.
It's like my favorite speakeasy, like at my conference.
I do my CEO and speaker dinnerthere on Friday night, super
swanky, super fun, super cool.
She goes Will you take us?
And I say, sure, I'll take you.
And so I picked them up.

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I drove them down to RoaringSocial and we're sitting there
having a cocktail, we're just inthe band's playing and they're
just sitting there having fun.
And Nate texts me and he saiddude, look out for my girl
tonight.
And I'm sitting on.
I'm sitting and there'shundreds of people in this place
and I'm sitting.
They have we do so.
We do a Lot of events there, sothey give me a little VIP space
and we got our own littlesection and we're sitting there

(11:39):
and I text him back and said Igot you, brother.
And then it hit me.
I Said what kind of man trustanother man with his girlfriend
when he's a thousand miles away,out of town for Christmas?
And I was just like it justrose up in me.
Like we have a code.
Like some of the guys I spendtime with have a code you talk
about, you talk aboutself-control and mastery.

(12:01):
Self-control is mastery.
I Set there for an hour Withthese girls and then Kevin,
another one of our friends, camein, and then a bunch of people
they saw, so everybody wants tocome Over and spend time and
talk with us.
And I wrote down I literallyI'm in the, I'm there at roaring
social in this giant party andI'm on my phone typing notes

(12:22):
about what does it look like tolive by code?
Mmm.
A code is a set of standard andprinciples that is created by,
adopted and lived out by aperson or a group of people.
Mm-hmm.
And I wrote this down.
I was gonna think you, dude,I've got all this vision for
2024 and all these amazingthings that God's doing.
And I'm like, let me a quote meback up just a little bit

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something I've been saying forover 20 years, because people
used to say had you get on stagewith John Maxwell and you were
32 years old, had one of thelargest youth ministries in
America?
How'd you get on stage in frontof that Me people?
How did you travel and do allthe things that you did and have
your own national youthleadership conference?
How did you do all these things?
And my reply was always whenyou act like you belong in the

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room, you'll get in the room.
Yes, when you act like youbelong in the room, you'll get
in the room.
So I'm sitting there at roaringsocial and I'm like I'm the
Agus boss, I'm looking at allthis vision God's put in me for
2024.
I'm like, and then it hit mecan what kind of man do you need
to become in order to see thesethings come to fruition?

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What kind of man do you need tobecome in order to for these
things to come to fruition?
And I wrote down some things Ilove to share with your audience
.
Self-control is mastery.
I wrote that down.
It's long, miss bro.
I if I went into all the thingsI've been through in the last
year.
It's been the toughest yet mostrewarding year of my life, from

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losing about a hundred andseventy five K on an event.
One of my guys who I thoughtwas my best friend was a Ponzi
scheme guy that it got undigot,unveiled by two other very close
friends of mine.
I found my girlfriend in bedwith her ex-boyfriend.
I moved 2600 miles ofCalifornia to be with her.
That happened three or fourweeks after I was there.

(14:09):
It was like dude, literallywithin 60 days, all three of
these things happen and I'm likeso Calmness and being steady in
my nervous system andunderstanding how can I stay in
control.
So I'm thinking through allthese things and I wrote down
some of these areas I'd love totalk to these about, because
this is huge.
I love you, want you want youwant to accomplish what God's

(14:33):
put in you in 2024 become theperson that you need to be in
order for those things to cometo pass.
And I wrote down awareness of myenergy Like I've got to be
aware of my energy.
Where is my energy?
It's the first thing that drewme to Grant Cardone.
Like him, hating, agree withhim, just saying things I love
about granted, things I don'tlike about Grant, but I'm
telling you, man, when you getaround that cat, he's got more

(14:53):
energy.
I don't get around people whohave more energy than I do,
except for Grant.
I'm like dude, where do you orthis guy come from?
But your energy, and yourenergy comes from the people you
spend time with.
It comes from the things youconsume what am I watching, what
am I listening to and who arethe people I'm around?
And then what you want to talkabout awareness in your energy.

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What happens when you lose Mmm?
What happens when you getpunched in the gut?
Bro, I'm standing on the porchof my girlfriend's house and
she's in bed with another man.
How are you going to respondwhen life literally kicks the
wind right out of you?
What are you gonna do?
How are you gonna respond?

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Have you done the work andbecoming the best version of
yourself so you can go?
No, I'm in control.
My circumstances don't dictatewhat happens to me.
What dictates what happens tome and how I respond is Me and
the work that I've done.
Mm-hmm, wow.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Anyway, go ahead.
That's so big man, it's so huge, and you hit on.
We're talking about the fruitof the spirit here that love,
that joy, that peace, thatmeekness, that temperance, that
self-control.
It's like Jesus a tree by thefruit that it bears.
And I always say you are theroot to the tree of your life.
And if you don't have that fruit, if you don't know how to love
yourself, to create that stateof joy, to create that state of

(16:19):
peace that surpasses allunderstanding meaning, it makes
no sense.
But because of the self-controlthat you're talking about, when
light hits you, you may bend,but you never break.
You Understand that the processof bending is just testing your
ability to weather the storm,but once that storm passes, you
realize just how strong you are.

(16:41):
As you are Processing throughall of that in this past year
because I know this last year itseemed like a lot of people hit
a lot of bumps in the road thislast year and we're hit by some
hurricanes in life and I guessit started around 2020 you know
what COVID and all that stuffand you people have really just
been up, waking up and Takingcontrol, or trying to take

(17:02):
control, as you were navigatingthat space of time in your life.
What were some of the biggestepiphanies that you had that
Assisted you as you stepped intoyour power to own that?
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
I back it up.
About a year and a half to twoyears Before that I walked into
my therapist for the first time,just met her names maxine.
She's here in Birmingham.
I call her.
She's a mild version of Medea.
She's an older black lady.
I walk in the office and she'shey, honey, how you and Jesus
doing it, sweet you and Jesusdoing okay, how you pray in this
spirit this week.
Can't have you in Jesus doingwhich bird, okay, this week.
I'm like yes, ma'am, I'm good,it's a, we'll sit down.

(17:36):
The first time I walked into heroffice I had just ended a 27
year marriage.
I'd been divorced.
My divorce would just follow.
I've been out of the house forabout two years.
So I was just writing the thickof all the stuff right and she
asked me she goes, ken.
She goes, tell me, tell me yourstory.
I says born in Detroit, I wasraised in Pontiac.
Parents got divorced and I waseight years old, second grade.

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Mom moved us to Georgia when Iwas in second grade.
From my sixth grade year to mytwelfth grade year I moved to my
dad's back in Michigan.
Six different times, I went to12 different schools and I went
to six different high schools.
And she looked at me and shesaid oh honey, why in the world
did you move so many times?
I Said, maxine, I didn't have achoice.
If I ever got in trouble, mymom would say go, pack a bag.

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Then I had 24 to 48 hours and Iwas on a bus, a plane or my dad
was on the way to pick me up.
And she's riding in the notebookand she looks at me and she
says it's the second aha momentI've ever had in my life.
The first was when I gave mylife to Christ, august 22nd 1993
.
She looks at me and she goesKen, how do you think that
affected your relationship withthe women in your life?
We're supposed to love andprotect you.

(18:40):
And, bro, I lost it.
Three weeks before that I was inSan Francisco with that same
girl that I loved this very much.
She picked me up at the airport.
We were heading north to SantaRosa.
We didn't even make it acrossthe bridge.
We had an argument.
I got triggered, I made herpull the car over, I got my

(19:00):
suitcase out and I left.
And he was a 53 year old manliving out the trauma of a 13
year old boy.
Except now, you weren't gonnatell me to leave, I was gonna
leave on my own before you toldme.
And I'm telling you.
When she said that, dude, itwas like, oh my, I was angry.
I was, I literally was angry.
I'm like how in the world did Ibeen in ministry?

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I've been in therapy for years.
Therapy is like changing theold in your car.
You needed about every five toseventy five hundred miles.
It's not when your enginebreaks down and I'm like where,
how did I miss this?
And so it's been a two-yearjourney for me of Wow, how can I
work on myself, how can I findhealing in this trauma?

(19:42):
So I got Lorenzala somatictherapists.
I worked with Lauren for a yearon how to control my central
nervous system.
So when I hit issues like I didthat day on that front porch,
I'm like I remember I got her onthe phone.
I called her five times afterhe left and she, I said you owe
me a conversation.
She goes I can't talk to you,I'm afraid.
And I said you don't need to beafraid to me, I'm fine.

(20:03):
Like I'm literally, I'm noteven.
I didn't even get elevated, notone time a year and a half or
two years ago.
Oh, bro, it got ugly.
I didn't even get elevated.
Why?
Because I knew that I'm incontrol of everything.
The external things that happenaround me, the circumstances
Don't dictate whether or not Ireact or whether or not I lose
my temper or lose my cool.

(20:23):
I Get to decide.
And when you do the work and youdo the somatic therapy and you
understand, listen, I can walkthrough trauma in my life, but
ultimately, if I do the work,it's like you in the gym, bro, I
was talking about you the otherday.
I looked up one day and I sawyou on this on Instagram and I'm
like hey, boy got ripped.
Like you got jacked.
You just didn't.

(20:44):
You just didn't wake up one dayand all sudden, you had muscles
and abs in a six pack.
No, you had to go to the gym andbust your ass right when people
didn't even see that, youdidn't know you were doing that.
You had to go bust your tail.
And then, all sudden, one day,you get on Instagram, like I did
, and I'm like Bro, look at mydude Preston over here showing
out like it takes time.
But the but being that selfmastery and being aware of your

(21:10):
energy and Understanding, I canremain calm no matter what
happens.
My dude, it's it.
You want to talk about control,stoicism, you talk, call it
whatever you want to Dude, I'vebeen through the way of the
superior man.
I read it three times in a row.
Two months ago, one of myfavorite books back to back.
I was like that 3% man no more.

(21:33):
Mr Nice guy that Greg reads mejust.
But I mean that therapy withtwo different.
They're just really digging inand doing the work so fast
forward to in between Christmasand New Year's.
I'm sitting in that little VIParea at roaring social in
Alpharetta, georgia, and I'mlike man what kind of man do I
have to become to do all thethings that God's put in my

(21:54):
heart?
So awareness in my energy,awareness in my language.
What am I saying?
The scripture says the power oflife and death are in the
tongue.
Matthew, chapter 12, says outof the abundance of the heart,
the mouse speaks.
I heard John Maxwell say thisstory.
Guys, this is probably been.
I've probably heard John saythis 20 years ago.
He was sharing a story about aprofessor at Stanford who had

(22:18):
palsy and he shook real bad andhe had this group of freshmen in
his psychology class and hewent to get his water and he was
shaking so bad because of hispalsy he knocked the water off
the lectern and it spilled inthe floor in this whole row of
freshmen Laughing at him becausehe'd just knocked this water
off the floor.
And he looks and I never forgetthe story, I'll just do it over
and over.
And John said the professorlooked at the, the whole row of

(22:42):
Teenagers that are laughing athim and going if you can tell me
why that water spilled on thefloor, I'll give you an A and
you'll never have to come backto my class the rest of the
semester.
And they're like oh, that'seasy, the water spilled on the
floor because your hand wasshaking and you knocked the
glass off and he goes.
Nope, he goes.
The water spilled on the floorbecause that's what the glass
was full of.
And you're gonna get bumped inlife, you're gonna get knocked

(23:05):
over in life and what's on theinside of you is coming out.
And when things get rough, whatcomes out of you?
And I'm telling you, when youwalk through moments in life,
bro, you're like, no, this isnot going to defeat me, the
purpose and the plan that God'sput on the inside of my heart to
make a difference in the world.
That I'm able to spend timewith guys like John and Erwin

(23:28):
McManus and Gary Breckett, allthe Brenda Bruchard, all the
guys that I have come andspeaking our stuff, and that I
get to do life with Randy Garnand Vic Keller.
I'm like no, the purpose thatyou put on my life is too big.
So, awareness of my energy,awareness in my language, dr
Fred Luskin from Stanford.
He did a study 95% of yourthoughts today are repeated from

(23:51):
yesterday.
So what do you need to do tochange your thoughts?
What modalities?
I don't care if it's mirrorwork, affirmations, whatever it
is, I'm literally in orangetheory.
This morning, bro, burn, Iburned 803 calories a day,
kicked my tail two and a quartermiles on the treadmill and then

(24:13):
just busted my ass on theroller.
And then the weight thing.
Today I'm a little treadmillrunning mirror's right in front
of me.
Ken Dawson, I love you, ken dude, I love you, bro, I love.
I'm speaking to myself.
Ken Dawson, you have amillionaire mindset.
Ken Dawson, you will live alife where your heart, head
relationships are enough.
I'm walking through myaffirmations.
Why?
Because it rewires the way mybrain thinks.

(24:35):
So when my brain goes, all thisain't you can't do all this
stuff you think you can do.
Are you kidding me?
Are you wanna this is the youwanna start a conference and
invite these guys in, but youwant Brenda Bishard to stand on
stage and go listen?
I've been doing this for 15years.
Ken Dawson is the only guy I'vecame in to do two days with.
I'm standing on stage and I'mlike dude, thanks, man.

(24:55):
I appreciate that.
Bro.
Like you wanna make an impactand touch the lives of thousands
and tens of thousands ofentrepreneurs in the country and
you better pay.
You gotta pay the price and yousaid this a minute ago.
There's a price that has to bepaid.
Princeton didn't get ripped bynot paying the price and getting
up and sitting in the basementplaying X-Box, eating Cheetos in
his underwear.
But he got his ass up and hewent to the gym and he busted it

(25:17):
and he learned through theprocess.
Okay, this works, this doesn'twork.
I need to tweak this.
I need to do chest and trismore.
I need to get laid day in more.
I need to switch from thispre-workout to this.
Protein works.
But it's just all the journey.
The joy is in the journey.
I heard TD Jakes 22,.

(25:38):
No, 25 years ago, one of myfirst pastors conference.
Td Jakes did a message called aplace, called there, and he
goes.
The joy is never there.
You think it's.
When I get there, everything'sgonna be okay.
What the hell do you have?
It is.
You're gonna get there and belike this, is it?
Mm-hmm, how's this the journey?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Man.
There's a couple things inthere that was so rich.
There's a couple things inthere that really stood out, and
just that focus.
What are you giving power to?
What are you giving your energyto?
Tony Robbins always says whereyour focus goes, your energy
flows, energy spirit, it's allthe same thing.
What are you giving your energyor your spirit to?

(26:20):
Because whatever I put myenergy into, as a divine creator
, that's what I'm going tocreate more guaranteed.
I always tell people I don'treally believe in the law of
attraction, because in order forsomething to be a law, it has
to happen consistently.
I do, however, and JohnAsweroff and I were having a
conversation about this backwhen Clubhouse was popular.
He said when the book the lawof attraction came out and

(26:42):
Rhonda Byrne came to their event, all these people that she
interviewed for the book were atthat event.
She sat down and she asked himall the question.
He said but there's a hugething that was missing.
He said there's a huge part ofthe word attraction that didn't
get focused on, and that'saction.
He said in order for somethingto be a law, it has to happen
consecutively.

(27:02):
I always believe this.
He said so.
Therefore, the law ofattraction really isn't a law
you can attract, but ultimately,the real law is the law of
manifestation, and it's where,when I focus my thoughts, like
you did, you focused yourthoughts on the version of you
you must become.
You focused your thoughts onthe steps that must be taken in

(27:24):
order to be the man that youtruly desired to be, but where
you may not have been aware ofwhere that was necessary.
And what that made me thinkabout was when my journey first
began.
I used to pray this prayer allthe time until my spirit spoke
to me and said and I'll share.
But I used to pray God, take methrough whenever hell you got
to take me through to make methe man I was created to be, and

(27:45):
I was dedicated to it for years, praying that prayer, and then
one day, in prayer, meditation,the spirit just spoke to me and
said why do you have to gothrough hell to be the man
created to be?
Just be it.
But I had to then startconceptualizing, and this is
where it comes down to thatreverse engineering.
I had to look ahead and I hadto see that version of Princeton

(28:07):
that was working with peoplelike Tony Robbins and that was
speaking on stages and that washaving healthier relationships.
That was filled with that joy,that peace, that self-control
that you talked about.
And I had to work back and say,how can I show up now as that
version of him?
Because an apple seed doesn'thave to fight to be an apple
tree, it already is and so, if Ican see it, it's possible.

(28:29):
And so I had to focus my energy, my spirit, my soul on being
that version of me, just likeworking out.
And it's a process, like yousaid, as I'm navigating through
that process and I'm lifting theweight every day, you wake up
and you're in the weight room ofyour life.
Some people go in and theywanna max out the weight that
they see somebody else living,not understanding that it is a

(28:50):
process.
Stop trying to jump 20 stepsahead and just focus on the
weight that you can lift rightnow and get conditioned and
lifting that weight and overtime you're going to develop the
habits, you're going to developthe new skills.
And so, listening to your storyand this moment where you're
coming to this place, where youhave this friend who trusts you

(29:11):
because of a code of awarenessthat you have a standard that
you have set for your life up tothis point.
That has become visible becauseof the work that you've done.
You now realize, okay, what isit?
What is it?
And you, literally in the midstof all these people who wanna
talk and entertain and have agood time, you were intentional
doing the exercise of whatversion of man do I wanna be?

(29:35):
And so that work never stopsand man, I'm fired up.
Man, I'm fired up over herebecause and I knew this was
gonna be an awesome podcast butas you're navigating through
that, because I know there maybe some people listening out in
podcast land right now orwatching this video or replay on
some point on social media, andthey're saying as I'm
developing the self-control, howdo I control the things that I

(29:58):
feel like I'm losing control of?
And I want you to hit on thisbecause I know that a huge part
of gaining control it soundscounterproductive initially, but
a huge part of gaining controlis surrendering the things you
can't control and honoring thethings you can.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
So I love that.
Yeah, you have to trust Godnumber one.
I can only do what I can do.
I'm only responsible for me.
I'm not responsible forPrinceton.
I'm not responsible for anybodyelse on the planet.
Me Like, I have four daughters,28, just turned 28,.
Having my first grandbaby onMonday.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Congratulations 24.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, I can't wait, bro, I'm gonna pop a can.
I'm gonna spoil that baby.
I have four daughters and she'sa girl, zoey Grace.
My daughter's even dead.
It's gonna be bad becauseyou're gonna spoil her death.
All right, you better believe Iam.
My pastor says grandkids areGod's reward to you for not
killing your kids.
I might, so I can't wait.
So anyway, but even in my kidsmy youngest is 15, even though

(30:56):
she's five foot 11, she's 15,.
I can't make them do what theywant.
I cannot be in charge orresponsible for what they do or
what they think.
I can help lead them and lovethem and do the same.
Listen, I'm the only person.
The guy I save within themirror brush my teeth within the
mirror, as Dave Ramsey saysevery day is the guy that I'm
responsible for, and I have tolet go of some things that I

(31:20):
cannot control and I have tofocus and stay in my lane.
You know what's funny?
The third thing in awareness ismy focus.
Am I aware of my focus?
Where am I going?
What direction am I travelingin?
Where is my time being spent?
Listen, the most expensivecommodity we have is our time.

(31:42):
I can spend money and well,trust me.
I can spend money.
I can spend money and I can gomake more money, but when my
time's gone, it's gone forever.
I have a limited resource whenit comes to time.
I only have a certain amount oftime left in it 55,.
Who knows how long I'm gonna behere?
So, dude, I have to live eachday, each week, each month and

(32:02):
each year Like I may not getanother, because I know the
purpose and the call that God'sput on my life.
So where is my focus?
Another area of awareness iswhere my money going, what money
I have coming in.
What am I spending?
Am I aware of what's going onin my financial condition?
That's your story with you.

(32:23):
One of my affirmations, my firstone I write them down every
single day, bro, right here inmy planner is I have a
millionaire mindset.
Dude, I'm in my mastermind.
Last August, so a year and ahalf ago, in Sundance, utah,
whole crew there, gary Breck isthere, randy Garnes there,
everybody I got the whole crewthere doing our mastermind with

(32:44):
Vic Keller and I took a coldshower and, bro, I'm telling you
cold shower in Sundance inAugust, that water is cold.
I probably had to be 35, 40degrees Cold shower.
I get out and I'm just sittingthere and my graphic design guy
had texted me earlier the daybefore he was like the third or
fourth of August and he goes hey, man, can you take care of that
invoice?

(33:04):
I said, dude, I can get to itas quick as I can.
I'm sorry, I'm writing them ona mastermind.
I'll get an ASAP.
I get up, dude, I'm gettingdried off and I'm brushing my
teeth and I'm in the mirrordoing my affirmations.
Ken Johnson, you have amillionaire mindset.
Guy goes no, you don't.
You don't pay your bills ontime.
Ooh, I picked my phone up, Iopened that invoice and I did.
Not only did I pay it, but Iput that boy on auto drafts like

(33:26):
Instapay Because all I got todo to have the money.
I was just busy.
And God, the way you pay yourbills is the way people are
gonna pay you.
Hmm, and it was just one ofthose moments.
If I'm not aware of what'sgoing on with my money, it's not
gonna come to me If I'm notlooking every single day.
I have four color codes for mycalendar every day in my Google

(33:46):
Blue, green, yellow, red, blueis my personal development time.
Anything that's in there when Igotta do my quiet time this
morning, when I went to OrangeTheory this morning, it's blue.
If I go to therapy, it's blue.
Green is where I make moneySales and that each individual
sales call I have follow upcalls.
They're all in green Yellowworking on the business, not in
the business, red when I spendtime with people that I love.

(34:07):
There better be some green timeon that calendar.
You better know where yourfinances are.
You better know what yourforecast is, what is your budget
Like, all the things you needto know and a lot of people.
It's amazing.
They have no idea and listen.
There's a reason you can't gainwealth and be comfortable and
listen.
Money just gets you freedom.
It gets you the opportunity tobe able to help people.

(34:30):
I walked into a waffle house.
It's been a few years ago.
I just started my healthjourney.
Three, three and a half yearsago.
I walked into a waffle house ona Monday night, played
basketball with all my guysDavid Pollack, john Smoltz,
peerless price all my guys on mymen's league team.
We're all playing basketballtill late 11 o'clock and I'm on
keto.
So I go in and I had scrambledeggs and bacon and I'm eating.
There's only I'm the onlyperson in the restaurant Server.
I get up to walk, I get up towalk out and the guy brings in

(34:53):
these three kids.
So I walked through the serverand I'm paying my bills.
I said were those?
Was that your husband?
The drop the three kids off.
She goes.
No, she goes.
My husband died last month andall he left me was these three
kids.
It was the week before schoolstarted and I said I was sitting
there.
I mean, god said give herwhatever you got.
And I had $240 and 20s in mypocket.

(35:14):
I already paid my bill, alreadytipped her, I pulled it out and
I put it on the table and Ifanned it out and the three boys
were like in three differentlocations in the waffle house
and I looked at her and I saidlisten, god sent me here tonight
for a reason.
He sent me here to let you know.
He has not forgotten you and hetold me to give you this.
She turned around and she sawthat money and she started
crying.
She said can I give you a hug?

(35:35):
I said, if you, let me pray foryou.
Now I'm there for you again.
I'm standing there pressingshe's boys come here.
Boys, come here.
Let me show you what God justdid for us.
And I got a elementary agestudent, a middle school kid,
and a kid that went to the samehigh school I graduated from.
He was a freshman, and shebrought him in and she said look
what God did for us.
She goes you have no idea, butI needed money to be able to get
school clothes for my kids, andnow I'm able to do something

(35:56):
for my kids.
So finances isn't necessarilyabout can I buy a watch or a car
or a house, or it's a man whocan I bless.
How can I take what God'sgiving me and how can I
distribute it the way God wantsme to distribute it Money.
And then the last one, boy.
This came straight from DavidDavis book the Way of Superior
man.
Am I aware of my sexual desires?

(36:17):
Ooh, son, son, son, son.
Am I?
What am I looking at?
What am I watching?
What does that look like?
Do I have boundaries when itcomes?
And it's not from.
It's not from necessarily fromthe book in the way of the
superior man.
It's not necessarily.
He's got two chapters onejaculation.
You read the book.
It's not just about having sexand then ejaculation.

(36:39):
It's about.
That is the seed that God's puton.
That is a reproducible seed onthe inside of you, no different
than your sexual seed, yourfinancial seed, your
relationship seed, your faithseed.
Like you got all this power onthe inside of you, that God, as
a person of faith, god's putinside of me to be able to

(37:00):
recreate, because I am a creator, because I'm created in the
image of God.
Where are my sexual desires?
How easy do I give up my sexualdesires, man?
I read that book, dude.
I was like are you freaking,kidding me?
So that's one of the areas ofmy awareness.
Am I aware of my sexual desiresas a man, as a woman?

(37:21):
Do I have control of my sexualdesires?
Because control andself-control really is when you
talk about mastery.
That's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I look at, or I listen to, rather to, everything
that you're saying right nowand it's just dialing something
in me and I'm taking a lot fromthis.
I would say I'm an eternalstudent.
I'm an eternal student man andI never stopped learning,
because it's in the learningthat I gain that self-control.
The wiser, more efficient Ibecome, the more creative and

(37:53):
responsible I can be with what Icreate in my life.
And to be able to say Icompletely agree.
It's like where is my focusgoing?
Where am I putting my energyinto my time?
Where am I putting it into mymoney?
Where am I putting it into myrelationships?
And really understanding thatwith each of these areas that I
get to control because I haveresponsibility over it, whatever

(38:14):
I put into it, there's an ROIthat I will receive from it.
There is an ROI that I'm gonnareceive from it, and so and
listen and, Pristin, if you're aperson, of faith.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
You're gonna be accountable for what you do in
these areas.
It's not just I'm gonna get anROI.
God has gifted me and heexpects me and I will give
account.
As a believer in Christ, I'mgonna give an account for what I
did with what God gave me.
So there's a little extra.
Okay, I do want to hear Welldone, my good and faithful

(38:44):
servant.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
One day, Living in a way that you are in such a state
of awareness and reverence forthe responsibility that you have
.
It carries with it just thisdeeper level of knowing, and we
talk about wanting to hear thatwhen we leave.
But isn't it something specialthat when you're showing up this
way, those goosebumps that weget, it's like that little hat

(39:08):
on the back or that wink fromthe spirit saying I see you, I'm
proud of you, and I think,especially as men that's
something depending on what ourrelationship was like with our
father or our mother we all wantto know that somebody's proud
of us.
So when we find that alignmentand spiritually we know man, I
could have gone this route.
I could have been this type ofperson, I could have gone down

(39:28):
this path and never gotten tothis point.
I could have completelydisregarded my ability to create
the life that I want.
But because I chose this path,every day I show up and I'm
grateful because I know that I'mhonoring my life, this valuable
sword.
Solomon said life is but a vapor.
We're here one moment, gone thenext.
Going back to what you said,it's just, I have a limited

(39:51):
amount of time here and oncethis moment, this dispensation
of time is over.
That's it.
And I think a lot of the timesit's easy to say what tomorrow's
not promised.
Every day is a gift, but whenyou embody it, like when you
believe it, then and only thendoes life truly begin to change,

(40:12):
because there's a level ofurgency.
And so I love for the listeners.
I know we're coming up on thehour.
There's so much that we coulddive into here.
But for the listeners, if youcould share one thing right now
that you would really want themto take from this call, what?

Speaker 3 (40:28):
would it be?
The code is huge.
Do you live your life by set ofprinciples that you designed?
This is how I'm gonna live.
One of the other ones that Ihave is I leaned into the
uncomfortable immediately.
If it's uncomfortable, I do itimmediately.
Like I remember, I was drivinghome two weeks ago.
We had those like 19 degrees inBirmingham.
It was the second day becausewe were iced over for a day and

(40:51):
a half two days.
And I'm driving home.
I look down at my car and I'vegot 34 miles to empty and I'm
like I'll do it too.
Nope, we'll do it right now.
It was short time it's got tobe working out.
I had shorts on and a pulloverand it was like 28 or 29 degrees
.
I'm like, nope, I'm gonna go doit now.
And I went and got a guestright there.
It's leaning into theuncomfortable immediately.
It's not giving yourself time totalk yourself out of what you

(41:13):
know you need to do.
You can't procrastinate whenyou have that kind of a code and
you live by that kind of a code.
Okay, ken, do you get it rightall the time?
No, not at all.
I don't get it right.
But I'm like okay, let's lockit in.
If you have a bad moment, don'tlet it become a bad minute, or
don't let a bad minute become abad hour or a bad day or a bad
week or a bad month.

(41:34):
We have the power and thecatalyst on the inside of us to
be able to go okay.
Nope, I'm not doing thisanymore.
I know it's why it's BrendaBrashard Dude.
I love Brenda.
We spent a ton of time togetherin the last six months of the
year and I love how Brendantalks about habits, like
literally, it is when you I walkthrough all of those things I
mentioned earlier in the podcastin a 60 day span.

(41:57):
What kept me sane and what keptme locked in and focused was
this goals, gratitude,affirmations, top three every
morning wins 1%.
Better goals than a schoolboard.
Every evening, knowing that Ihave a solid morning routine,
I'm up at four.
I grab my phone, I put aworship song on, I put it on my

(42:18):
Instagram page, I go to my Uversion app.
I do whatever Bible plan thatme and Gary and Randy and Vic
and Brian Covey and Brent Goverlistening to.
I do that.
I get done.
I screenshot it, I send it tothem.
I send it to another group ofthree young guys three young.
I'm chillers in the real estatesector.
I send it to those three guysand as soon as I get done with
that, boom, I'm up, I walkdownstairs, I get my pre-workout

(42:39):
out of the refrigerator backupstairs, brush my teeth, use
the bathroom, get dressed, comeinto my podcast studio goals,
got to the affirmations topthree.
I'm out the door and I'm at F45, I'm at Planet Fitness, I'm on
my Peloton or I'm at OrangeSteer by 5 AM, like I.
It is boom.
And John says I've heard JohnMaxwell say it for years show me
your daily routine and I'lltell you how successful you're

(42:59):
gonna be.
So you don't know what to doand you've established, as
Brendan would say, a habit andthese are my habits and you do
the things you need to do to besuccessful.
You will work yourself out ofwhatever terrible situation
you're in eventually.
And every time you do, it'llget quicker and quicker in the

(43:20):
timeframe for you being stuckget shorter and shorter.
And then, princeton also, whatit does is when you get stuck,
you're like okay, god, what areyou trying to show me, dude?
I walked away from that instancein Northern California a few
months ago.
I learned more about me eventhan I did her.
I was like, dude, you didn'teven blow up Like you didn't

(43:43):
even get angry.
Bro, I'm talking, you ain't.
You've never met somebody thatgot a temper like I had back in
the day.
I'm just telling you, I grew upin Detroit, bro.
The first listen, the first timeI got saved, on August 22nd
1993, baptized next weekend.
The following Sunday, which wasLabor Day weekend, my pastor
asked me to come play basketballat his house.
I was terrified.
My wife was like why are you?

(44:05):
What's wrong?
I said I'm going to cusssomebody out, I'm going to beat
somebody.
I was like I grew up in Detroit, it's what we do and I'll never
forget coming home.
And she was like, how'd they go?
And I was like, ain't, it wentgreat, I didn't drop the F bomb.
I don't know that I've cussedsince I got saved two weeks ago.
God took it immediately out ofmy life.
There is walking away from thatmoment this summer.

(44:25):
This fall was hey, dude, you'rea different man.
Like all the work you've beenputting in and I've never I did
a thing.
On Instagram I said don't besurprised when you've done the
work, when God puts you in asituation to reveal exactly how
much change and how much workyou've actually done.

(44:45):
Yes, and that's exactly whathappened.
He revealed to me who she was.
She's not party to your future.
And it revealed to me dude,you've done the work.
We had an argument like thesecond or third week.
I was there and she got superelevated and raised her voice at
me and yelled at me and I'd sitthere and I said I'm not doing
this, I'm not the man that I was.

(45:06):
I thought to her for a year,bro, a year.
I didn't talk to her.
She called me out of the blueon June, the third A year, and I
said I'm not the man that I waswhen we were together before.
It's not who I am and I'llnever forget.
When she looked at me, she goesyou're not better than me
because you don't get angryanymore and you've done and
you've spent a lot of money ontherapy.
And I went you're right, I'mnot better than you, but I've
done the work and I choose notto react.

(45:28):
I'm going to respond and I'llhold space for you if you need
me to.
I knew right then, like I lookat the whole process and I'm
like it was God saying canyou're a different man.
You paid the price, you put thework in and nobody can take
that work away from you.
Nobody can take away from youwho you've become, and it was

(45:48):
God's way of revealing to mejust her, but me and who I had
become because of the work thatI had done and the commitment
that I had made to myself.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
That code, the code.
A lot of people say I havefaith, I have faith.
I never say I have faith.
I say I am faithing because nowfaith is the substance of
things, so forth, the evidenceof things unseen.
So it's every moment that I amshowing up in the belief based
on the code that I have created,I now bring into fruition the
substance and the evidence.

(46:21):
That's the work.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Listen, I tell people all the time if you want to, if
you're a one million dollarbusiness and you want to be a
three million dollar business,it's simple Do what three
million dollar businesses do?
You're a five million dollarbusiness?
You want to be 10, do what 10million dollars.
You want to be a Princeton?
You want to be one of theseguys?
Just do what they do.
It's not rocket science, peopledo.
Listen, I'm not the sharpest guy.

(46:44):
I'm not the best looking guy,although my best friend Nate
goes.
Ken, you're not the bestlooking guy, I know, but I'll be
damned if you're not the mostconfident.
Listen, I'm not the bestlooking guy.
I'm not the smartest guy.
I was never the most athleticguy, but I was a guy Everybody
wanted on their team because youweren't going to outwork me.
It's almost like Kobe Dude.
I've heard so many stories aboutJay Williams who played with

(47:06):
one of my best friends at Duke.
Mark was on that team at Duke.
Jay Williams said they went into do a game in LA.
He was playing, I think, forthe Nets.
They go in, I go in to shootaround early in the morning and
Kobe has already worked up asweat.
He said he's pouring.
He goes.
I'm getting up shots and I'mthinking to myself I'm going to
stay here longer than Kobe.

(47:27):
I looked down at him he's stillpumping.
He goes, hour goes by, hour anda half goes by, two hours go by
and I'm like dude, I got to goget some breakfast.
He leaves, comes back thatnight for the game they get
waxed by the Lakers and he walksby and he asks Kobe, dude, how
long did you stay today?
He said long enough for you toknow you were beat before you
got to the gym tonight.
Long enough to know you werebeat before you got in the gym

(47:50):
tonight.
I was like listen, do the work,find somebody that you.
Brandon Dawson calls it mimicmodel, model, mimic master.
I think it's what Brandoncalled Find somebody, do what
they do.
You want a morning routine?
Dm me, I'll give you my morningroutine and my daily routine.
I literally dude.
I created a planner around myroutine and I do.

(48:13):
I am.
I can't even tell you howridiculously faithful I am to
planning my day out every day.
It's, it is the key.
It is the key.
I've got a quote right here onmy desk from David Green,
founder of Hobby Lobby If we'renot careful, we'll spend our
lives building things that justdon't matter.
And if you get up every day,your workday doesn't start when
the alarm clock goes off.

(48:34):
Your workday starts the nightbefore.
If you go to bed and don't knowexactly where your day is going
the next day, you're going towake up and do things that don't
get you eventually tofulfilling the purpose that
God's put in your heart.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
That's a lot, and I can keep going, bro, man, hey
man, I look forward.
I look forward to it, man.
Everything that you're creating, everything that you're
bringing to the table for otherpeople to sit down and suck with
you, man, because this is theleadership that the world needs
more of.
It's time out for all the.
You know so, influencer coaches, we need real leadership and
you've talked about it severaltimes today, john Maxwell he's

(49:11):
one of my favorite mentors andthat five levels of leadership
that he talks about that highestlevel.
The fifth level is that servantleadership, where people don't
follow you because it's theirjob.
They don't follow you becauseof your status.
They don't follow you for anyof these other reasons.
They follow you because theylove you.
They follow you because, as youwould say, you got, you have
this code and they can trust it.

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It's the reason why thesepeople reach these levels and
they have the raving fans.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
They have the talking .
Can I leave your audience withone more thing?
100% Go ahead.
My, my daughter's 28, about tohave my first grandbaby.
On Monday, when she was inkindergarten from the time she
was in kindergarten, all four ofmy dollars I pretty much took
him to school.
I had my own morning's companyback in the day, so I took him
to school, I picked him up, Itake him to school and I drop
him off and I said, baby, telldaddy what servant leaders do.

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And she'd look at me and she'sshe's 28 now and super pregnant
and she's a bad ass in the gym,bro.
She did less like 350 pounds.
She's nasty, yes, she's nasty,all four of my daughters are
nasty in the gym.
And she would look at me as alittle five and six year old.
She'd say daddy, servantleaders put other people's needs
before their own.
They do things right the firsttime and they do things without
being asked.
And then, every day when I'dpick them up in the afternoon,

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they'd have to give me one, oneof those three.
And how did you live that?
Today, a daughter came toBirmingham to go to Hollins
College it's one of the topministry leadership academies in
the world and she came here togo to college, she got a job at
a brand new Chick-fil-A rightaround the corner from where I
live.
Now it's brand new grandopening and she just started
slowly getting promoted andpromoted and promoted.

(50:43):
The owner operator, who owns acouple of Chick-fil-As here in
Birmingham, said how in theworld do you get all these
people on this?
She was like the frontlinemanager.
How do you get these people todo it?
She's like 10 years old.
How do you get these people todo what you want?
She said my dad taught me aboutservant leadership Put other
people's needs before your own,do things right the first time

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and do things without beingasked.
I have a picture on my phone.
He had her write the littlestainless steel area where they
slide the nuggets and the tatertots and all the stuff down.
In that Chick-fil-A is writtenthree characteristics of a
servant leader.
He had her write it down in thestore right there and she sent
me the picture.
She said, dad, this is what itlooks like.
That's what servant leadershiplooks like and it is as John
says.

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It is the highest level ofleadership, and I shared this on
your thing the other day.
Great leaders want somethingfor people, not from people.
It's not about what I can getfrom you.
It's what I can help you get.
It goes right into my favoritezig-zagginger club.
If I help enough people getwhat I want, they want,
eventually I'm going to get whatI want 100%.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
BOMBS dropped this entire episode.
This is probably one of myfavorite episodes, one of my
favorite interviews thus far,and I've had some amazing people
on here, but it's just adifferent level, man, and I've
literally had chills more timesthan I've ever had on any
interview that I've ever done.
So thank you for that, brother.
If you guys have been listeningto this podcast and again, your

(52:04):
vibe attracts your tribe andthis inner circle that he has,
they say surround yourself withpeople who are five, 10, 15
steps ahead of you and you'llnever stop growing.
And so you guys hear the power,you hear the passion, you hear
the purpose, you hear the levelof leadership and the heart
behind Ken, and so reach out toKen.
Ken.
What's the best ways for themto reach out to you?

Speaker 3 (52:25):
At Ken Jocelyn on Instagram.
Super easy, just at Ken JocelynK-E-N-J-O-S-L-I-N on Instagram.
I'd love to connect with you.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Awesome.
Thank you so much for your time, ken, and everyone else out
there in podcast land.
If you've gotten something outof this I know you have If
you've stayed this long reachout to Ken and all of his links.
Everything is going to be inthe show notes.
Thank you, guys, for showing upfor you.
Thank you for investing yourtime into this space to receive

(52:55):
and to be led into that nextversion of you Understand.
You got to have a code and yougot to have self-control.
You got to have responsibilityover your actions, creating
daily habits that are going tomove you towards that brighter
future that you desire, becauseyou are the light that you have
been seeking.
But you got to understand thatin every dark moment, that light
is only being challenged to beilluminated even more.

(53:17):
Thank you, guys, for tuning into the Evolve Mastery podcast
and until next time, keep rising, keep shining, keep growing,
because this is your life, somake the most of it.
And moving forward.