ETI's 2025 Oscar Predictions

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
how's it?
I'm alex mccauley.
I'm max vosberg and I'm ericakraus and this is, excuse the
intermission a discussion showsurrounding our picks for the
97th academy awards.
The oscars are this sunday and,along with the anticipation for
who will win the night'sbiggest awards, we of course
have our in-house competitionfor best ballot.
We will go through eachcategory and cement our
selections for the big night.

(00:26):
That conversation next on theother side of this break.
All right, y'all, that's one ofour biggest episodes of the
year.
We will go through all 23categories for the upcoming
Academy Awards, cement, cementour picks and then, in about a
week's time, see where the dustsettles and who gets to pick

(00:49):
their own episode theme to claimvictory with.
Uh, how you feeling as reigningchamp right now, max uh, not,
uh, particularly confident.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I feel like this is a very wild Oscar year.
I don't really have you know,looking over my picks here, I
don't have like a strong, likedominator of film that is going
to be taking home everything.
So I just feel likeeverything's kind of up in the
air a little bit and Idefinitely do some zags when

(01:25):
maybe I should zig, and so Ithink that's.
That's what helped me win lastyear, though a little bit, a
little bit yeah, um, but yeah, Idon't know, I, I, I just feel
like it's going to be all overthe board this year now, of
course, last year was just a, atwo-man race, so to say.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
We now have erica as the third chair.
So, erica, how are you feelingnot only going into the night,
as far as kind of maybe what maxwas speaking about like do you
have a favorite on your listthat's dominating a lot of
categories and then, just sortof overall, how do you feel
about this somewhat competitiveprocess that we've once again
thrown you into?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
yeah, I, I'm not feeling confident only just
because I I also feel like it'sgonna be all over the board.
I I feel I just have thisfeeling that the oscars this
year will take a lot of us bysurprise and that there'll be
some things that have been kindof clearing awards season, but

(02:25):
then so it's like it won't be aseasy to predict that at the at
the Oscars.
And so I was going througheverything last night I was just
like I don't, there's, there'sobviously categories that I'm
like that makes sense, but Idon't know.
I just feel like it's reallyreally up in the air.

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And as far as my favorite goes,I love a lot of these movies,
but none of them areparticularly dominating all the
categories.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I do think that this may in time prove to be a really
good year for you to jump inand do this exercise with us for
the first time, because inyears prior it would be a little
bit I don't want to say easier,but a little bit more chalk to
maybe have a film likeOppenheimer on the board.
Or thinking back, maybe if wewere to be doing this exercise

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during a Return of the king kindof year or a La La Land kind of
year, where you were like, ohOK, I know I'm going to at least
walk away with like 12 or 13correct picks, because I can.
I can kind of pick some ofthese big ones and then some of
these smaller undercard awards.
Those seem to be well defined,that the precursors are out
there from other award shows,but things have been kind of all

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over the place here this awardseason.
So that's great, that's what wewant.
It's it's intrigue for us whocare about this kind of stuff.
I don't know if it necessarilyis going to result in an uptick
in viewership.
I imagine that the Oscars aregoing to have less viewers this
year than they had last yearjust because there is no barbie,
there is no oppenheimer, thereis no top gun maverick, there's

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no real big crowd pleaser onthis list.
The fact that dune 2 is notreally in the running for any of
these, these big awards, Ithink kind of hurts the pop
culture, um kind of fascinationwith with this stuff.
This year I don't know how manypeople are really tuned in to
see who wins best actress, mikeymadsen or demi more you know,

(04:31):
like that's right.
I wish more people cared aboutthat because it is a really fun,
exciting race for for peoplelike us to pay attention to.
But yeah, no, no, we, we willsee.
Um, we have a lot to get tohere.
So if there's not any more kindof thoughts or or maybe
strategies that you guys want todivulge here before we start
selecting our picks, I think wecan get right into it yeah, yeah

(04:54):
, let, let, let the picks begin.
I'll just say, like these arecoming off the dome I, you guys
caught me by surprise thismorning.
I forgot what time we wererecording.
I have a quad shot of espresso,half drink in front of me,
still trying to wake up a littlebit we love that.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, it was by design.
It was by design.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
I should go back in the group text because I swear
y'all said 12 and then Erica'sknocking on my door at 9 am.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I was like outside on the porch.
I'm like, Alex, wake up.
I'm like, Alex, wake up.
I knew you were sleeping.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
All right.
So we're going to start and Imean this respectfully, but
we're going to start at thebottom with some of the smaller
awards for the evening and thenwork our way towards things like
leading actor, leading actress,director, pitcher and all of
the above.
So we'll go to the best liveaction short category first.

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The nominees here are the manwho could not remain silent,
anja, aline I'm not a robot andthe last ranger a few of these
films I'm familiar with I'm nota robot.
We were lucky enough to screenactually for the tacoma film
festival, so once again, I thinkwe brought that up maybe a
month ago when the nominationswere released.
Really cool to see a film likethat make it all the way here to
the Academy Awards.

(06:09):
However, I'm going to be goingwith Anja, and the reason why
I'm going with this filmactually is because there's sort
of another in-house tie to thisfilm.
Returning guest of the show andcollaborator with Max on a few
small projects, britt Harris,her husband, is actually one of

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the key financiers and producersof this film, so I'll be
rooting for it for that reason.
If none other, again kind ofjust a smaller award, but one
that it's really fun to sort ofhave a little extra investment
in, so that'll be my pick forthis, this category.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Uh, yeah, shout out, britt Harris, lead actress in my
capstone film, good friend ofthe show.
Uh, I'm going to be rooting forAnya as well.
Uh, come, come, oscar night.
Uh, it would be really amazingif uh Krishan gets up there and

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gets to speak.
I don't know, I don't know whatlevel of producer he is, I
don't know if, if he is the oneto give the speech, if, if a win
comes their way.
But uh man, how, how cool, howfucking cool.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, it's just been a fun thing to track sort of
throughout oscar.
Like I can remember um kind ofthe production team Brit
reposting things like that whenit made the Oscars shortlist.
That was a big moment.
And then the morning of and Ilove seeing this I can remember
I think the first time thisreally something like this
really went viral was on themorning of the nominee

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announcements and it was theGodzilla minus one team, yeah,
and you kind of it's almost likewatching the NFL draft or
something, and you have like acamera in the draft room right
Like um you know film.
Film teams have started to dothis, where they either record
they're all on Skype togetherand they'll record kind of the
zoom session or whatever andthen release that, and so

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another thing that we were ableto kind of um live vicariously
through them on in this momentwas was the Oscar nominations
announcements morning and towatch this team celebrate the
the nomination and so reallyrooting for him.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, I um.
There's another nominee onthere too that we forgot.
It's alien.
There's five nominees.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, I think I mentioned it.
Oh, you did Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Um, okay, so I haven't seen any of these, and
but that's awesome about Brit.
Good for her and her husband.
I am going with the man whocould not remain silent as my
pick.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
And I believe that is the favorite favorite uh, which
you know great pick, that's agreat pick.
Uh, I, this is kind of one thatlike yes, where I'm, I'm
definitely going with the heartover the head here, uh, but on.
You know you can also see that.
Uh, their film on.

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I believe it's on netflix coolright now.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I believe it got picked up by netflix, so I I
will give netflix some credithere, because typically most of
the short films, both animatedand live action, netflix does a
good job of distributing and andmaking those available to to
see before the, the big nightand so those and and also to a
lot of um theaters, like a lotof art house theaters some I

(09:29):
know amc does it as well, butcheck your local listings
because usually there'll be likea block of live action and in
animated short films that arenominated for the oscars.
I know the grand cinema isreally good about doing this, so
you can go and experience allfive nominations in both of
those two different categoriesin kind of one sitting.
I know, um, that I've done thatin the past before.

(09:51):
It's a really good experienceand a good way to watch them all
.
Okay, so we have we have ourfirst zag right off the bat.
Erica could have a leg up on us.
Yeah, um, okay, so we will nowgo to.
On our board we have sound andvisual effects in the same kind
of bracket and so we'll do soundfirst and then move on to
visual effects.
Uh, max, who do you have forbest sound?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
well, this is, uh, one of two for the night.
Uh, for dune part two, uh, itis the sound and dune, uh, you
know, just on a technical level,dune part two is probably like
the strongest film, uh, and soI'm hoping it picks up a couple

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below the line awards here.
Starting with sound, uh, andyou know, I mean the sounds of
the ships, the sounds of theweapons, the sounds of the
desert, like the worms.
It is an amazing piece of sounddesign, especially when you see

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it in a big IMAX theater.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, pretty easy for me.
I'm going with Dune Part 2 forthe exact same reasons.
Yep, me too.
All right, clean sweep there,all right.
So then, moving on to visualeffects, erica, who do you have
in this category?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I also have dune part two.
Um, this is also like mypreferred, like favorite pick
too.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Um, so yeah, dune I have dune part two as well here,
an interesting category, Idon't you know, during our
nominations episode.
I know we spent some time onthis, but just the fact that,
like Alien, romulus is also inthis category Better man, which
I think people are alreadytrying to start the like we

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missed something special here.
Process on A movie that I havenot seen.
I could care less about RobbieWilliams and the representation
of him as a monkey performinghis songs.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
So a weird category that I feel like Dune should win
pretty easily.
Is that your pick as well?
Max, here it is, it's a cleansweep for all three of us.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Okay, and like I said I unfortunately I think these
are the only two, at least in mybracket.
These are the only two.
Uh, awards doom.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Part two picks up all right, so then we will move on
to makeup and hairstyling, andthen on the on our big board, we
also have bracketed togetherhere costume design.
So we'll start with makeup andhairstyling.
Um, I'll go first here.
I have this substance.
I'm really hoping that thesubstance ends up walking away
with three, four, potentiallymaybe even five academy awards

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here, um, and and that would bein part two winning some of
these undercard awards, and sothat's, that's the first win
that I'll give to this substance.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Uh, but a good category, a kind of an exciting
category when you look at thethe different nominees here
represented yeah, this was ahard one for me, because I think
that nosferatu is extremelydeserving of this award as well,
but yeah, I, the substance isalso my pick I am also going
with the substance Monstrosity.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Sue, elizabeth, come on, bring it out on stage.
How amazing would that be Ifthey walked out the monster.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
That would be really cool.
Yeah, I mean, would youconsider Margaret Qualley losing
her teeth as part of the makeupdepartment too?
Yeah, absolutely Everyone'sworking on that, also of the
makeup department, to sort of Iguess that's almost yeah Right,
like that's well, everyone'sworking on that.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Also like the makeup when she's doing her show you
know, like the the beauty theglam.
Yeah, or you know the, thescene where Demi Moore is
freaking out in front of themirror in the bathroom and like
that makeup is all running andstuff like that.
I mean it's just a verystriking movie when it comes to

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that, that technical aspect yeah, I agree, all right.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
So then the other side of this coin is costume
design.
Uh, max, who do you have firstin costume design?

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I have wicked uh one of a few here for for wicked uh
on my board.
But yeah, I, I just think youknow the, the fantasy element of
it all, whether you know you'retalking about, you know
munchkin land in the beginning,or the iconic witch costume when

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, when uh alphabet finally putsit on the hat, uh, you know and,
and, and all the pink thatariana grande brings to the, to
the, to the game here.
So I just think wicked I I dothink wicked's gonna pick up
more than we think, but I thinkI think costume design is is

(14:43):
pretty locked for it yeah, Ihave also have wicked it's to me
.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I have not seen conclave, but this is a
hands-down win for them.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
There's no way that they don't pick this one up this
is too bad, because anothercategory that I know our group
chat sort of got riled up aboutwhen the nominations came out,
with the lack of something likedune part two here, because I
believe dune one, dune part one,took home this award a few
years ago and so to see it noteven get a nomination here is a

(15:17):
bit puzzling when you havethings like conclave and a
complete unknown.
I think the joke was like give,give you know.
I said like give me the budgetand I can dress Timothy Chalamet
in some corduroy.
Like it's to see a completeunknown, conclave Nosferatu to a
lesser extent, but still I'm sotired of just like the, the old

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Victorian well-dressed suits.
Like you know, oppenheimer wonthis award last year.
It's just kind of it feels sotired.
And so Gladiator 2 is the otherfilm on here, not a particular,
a particularly effective film,and yet at the same time I feel
like Gladiator 2 would be moredeserving of a win like this, as

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opposed to Conclave Nosferatu,a Complete Unknown.
So to see Wicked as kind of theconsensus favorite in this
category makes sense, and I feellike it's something that,
whether or not you're a fan ofthat film or not, you can still
feel like.
Ok, this is the Academyacknowledging of the nominees,

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the film that was probably themost intense to to style as far
as costumes go.
So I'll agree with the two ofyou and make it a clean sweep
here for Wicked and Best CostumeDesign, which then brings us to
production design, starting towork our way up the board here a
little bit.
Who do you have for this one,erica?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
This is one.
This is a category that I'm notparticular.
I'm trying to go strategy here.
I have the Brutalist as my pick.
Wicked is my fan pick, but I'mofficially putting it down as
the Brutalist and I'm not happyabout it.
Wow.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I went Wicked and I'm not happy about it.
Wow, I went Wicked.
You know, again I think a lotof like Barbie flavor going on
here with Wicked.
As far as some of these setsthat are built, you know, it's
very candy, eye-popping stuff.
And yeah, I just think Wickedonce again will pick up some of

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these, these technical awardsthat that will make it feel,
make it feel part of theceremony.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I really.
I hope you're right.
I want.
There's so many categories onhere that I hope that I'm wrong
about.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
You know what I mean Like for real, like.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I would be so happy to lose this competition if it
meant some of my like favoritepicks get to win.
I just know how the Oscars rollsometimes where they're just so
like.
Did Barbie win productiondesign when last year, or did
they get they?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
may have.
It was either Barbie or Oppie.
You know, those were kind ofthe two big craft films of last
year.
And then I want to say just offthe top of my head that
Oppenheimer probably took hometwo out of every three of those
awards, but Barbie did walk awaywith a few.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, but yeah, max, I hope you're right.
It was wicked.
Alex, what's yours?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I'll go Dune Part 2 here, because Poor Things took
home production design Did it ohfantastic, great job.
Shout out to Poor Things.
I feel like this year's PoorThings in this category is
Nosferatu, where you can look atthat film and almost take for
granted how real and lived inthe sets are.

(18:47):
However, I don't think it'sgoing to go to nosferatu.
I'll go dune part two just tozag and kind of give us the
first three-way split here.
So someone's going to get a legup unless conclave or nosferatu
, upsets um kind.
The three favorites, which I dothink are wicked the Brutalist

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and Dune Part Two.
But again, I mean talk abouttaking something for granted.
We're just all taking, we arenot.
But I think that everyone atlarge everyone at large I love
the way you just said that we'retaking Dune Part Two for
granted and the productiondesign in that film, the sets,
everything are phenomenal.
Everything that's obviously outin the desert as well, but

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again, just like the worldbuilding that Denny and his team
were able to create here needsto be acknowledged.
So for production design, Iwill go Dune Part 2.
Love it.
Design, I will go do in parttwo, love it.
Which then brings us to ourdocumentary dual category here,
where we will not only talkabout documentary feature but
also documentary short thank you26 minutes, 2650.

(20:02):
it looked like the look you gavewas just like fuck me.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Well, I did that last time too.
I need my pen.
All right, thank you, and sceneNow.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Now I am quite unfamiliar with most of these
films that's on me.
Hopefully, here within the next10 days, I can catch up on a
few of these.
So I'm just gonna go chalk withthe odds makers out there and
select no other land and this is, in short, documentary feature.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, yeah, I have not you said no other lands is
yours yes, this is, in short,documentary feature feature yeah
, yeah, yeah, I have not.
You said no other lands isyours yes, no other land.
Okay, yeah, I've.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
I've not seen any of these, but the, and it's odd too
, because usually there's somestirring where, like you'll,
you'll know, oh, this was a bigone.
This has been on the Netflixtop 10, or this.
This is, you know, being talkedabout um in circles and you can
read it about it in the tradesor whatever.
I haven't heard of any of thesefilms yet.
Yeah, the recent black blackbox diaries.

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Our friend, justin robert vinaldid say that this was one of
his favorite films of 2024 I didsee that's coming to the grand
too.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I'm gonna go with porcelain war and other than
period period.
Yeah, that's coming to thegrant too.
I'm going to go with porcelainwar and other than period period
yeah.
That's the research I did.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
That's.
That's my pick too.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, all right.
Which then takes us to bestdocumentary short film.
Um, where we have I am readyWarden incident, the only girl
in the orchestra, death bynumbers and instruments of a
beating heart.
Anybody want to take this one?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I'm going with.
I am ready warden great as my.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
I had a movie that you did not list oh, are you
sure it's nominated?
Yeah, yeah says it's nominated.
Yeah, it says it's a.
You said I Am Ready WardenIncident.
Michaela's Voice.
A Letter to the World.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I'm not seeing either of those films here.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Once Upon a Time in Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
A Swim Lesson.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Nope, nope, none of these films are nominated for
Best Documentary Short.
Oh, interesting.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
It says yeah, those are a list of frontrunners.
Oh brother, can you name thenominees again?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
So I have.
I Am Ready Warden, incident,the Only Girl in the Orchestra.
Death by Numbers andInstruments of a Beating Heart.
I'm going the Only Girl in theorchestra great can't wait to
read your letterbox review ofthat film what?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
what two did you guys have?
We both had.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
I am ready warden yes uh, yes, yeah, this you know.
Interestingly enough, this wasone that I think I got last year
that you didn't get, which?

Speaker 1 (23:09):
was key.
I think you beat me by two orthree last year, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
So you know, originally I had a swim lesson
in there, but I think last yearthere was some sort of
documentary about kids in a bandthat won.
Like the last shop or somethinglike that yeah, so we're
running it back with that.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
I love it.
Okay, moving on to our musicalcategories Best Score and Best
Song we will start with BestSong, where Amelia Perez has two
nominations.
Never Too Late.
A film about Elton John, Ibelieve, has a nomination, sing
Sing has a nomination, and thena film called the Journey has a

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nomination here, which I believeis your girl, diane Warner yes,
claiming her 100th, or Warren Ithink it's Warren 100th and one
Academy Award award nominationshe's a dog man, she knows
people legitimately.
I think it's like her 14th or16th, or it's in the high teens

(24:14):
now.
However many times that she hasbeen nominated um, you know
it's.
It's really, it's reallyinteresting.
Will amelia perez, outside ofzoe saldaña anything Now that
that film has become even morecontroversial, um in award
circles?
I know voting has closed.
I'm not sure exactly whenvoting did close, and so that's

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always interesting, Um, I don'tknow.
I'll go with El Mal from AmeliaPerez because I think that's
been the favorite for a whilenow.
However, I would not besurprised if, if the journey um
takes home this award.
But but we'll go.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I will go with El Mar If the journey takes home the
award, because I'd love to seewhat Diane Warner looks like.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Well, okay, and then I should.
The film is not the journey,the film is the six triple, not
the Journey, the film is the SixTriple Eight.
Yes, the song is called.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
The Journey Six, triple Eight, yes, yes, of
course, the sequel to Five,double Ten.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
The Five Double Nine yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I never even heard of the Six Triple Eight, but I'm
all it's a movie.
Okay, I'll take your word forit.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I'm also going with El Mal.
Against my will, I have El Malhere as well.
I do think Amelia Perez willpick up some awards, however,
from the big ones it might beout of contention, but I do
believe it will take home thebest song.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Which then takes us to best score, where,
unfortunately, your fivenominees are the Brutalist
Conclave, the Wild Robot, AmeliaPerez and Wicked.
Excuse me, I say unfortunatelybecause and I know that some of
the stuff that Hans Zimmer didon Dune Part 2 makes him
ineligible because theyincorporate some of the same

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musical beats from the original.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Dune.
It's because they're cowards.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
It's such a dumb rule .

Speaker 3 (26:14):
It's such a dumb rule .

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Especially when you can put something like Wicked in
here, which is based off of aBroadway play and uses a lot of
the same musical beats as well.
Of course, there's no trentresner and atticus ross
represented here, which is justalarming based on the fact that
they won the golden globe forbest original score for their
work on challengers and arenowhere to be seen.
So a category that you know,over the last 10 years, has
become increasingly moreexciting for me to pay attention

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to.
Personally, I feel like goodmusic and not the soundtrack,
but good music composed for afilm is like one of your top
three, top four most importantelements, and so, unfortunately,
I don't really care too muchabout this award this year and
I'll just be going chalk withthe brutalists.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I also have the Brutalists, da-da-da-da.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I feel like I should change my answer, but because I
haven't seen either of my twotop picks.
I would love the Wild Robot towin, but my pick is Conclave.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Conc.
You know I like that.
That's kind of a sneaky, sneaky, smart pick conclave.
That the music in that film isso important.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
It goes back to what we were, just what I was just
saying yes, so yeah yeah it.
It sounds cliche, but it trulybecomes a part of that film, as
if it were its own character andcreating some of the tension.
So a good one.
I would not be mad at aconclave win there.
That's a good pick, erica.
Okay, moving on to bestinternational film, a really

(27:55):
interesting category becauseonce again, I feel like two
months ago this was locked up asfar as Amelia Perez for a win,
and now there's real questionsand real doubts Once again.
Who knows when voting closedand and when different
controversies and different newsbroke about some of these
things that can affect votersopinions.

(28:16):
And so your, your nominees hereare the girl with the Needle,
my Beloved Flo that's not thename of the film, my Beloved Flo
, but Flo the Seed of the SacredFig, amelia Perez, and I'm
Still here a movie that isgaining a lot of momentum based
on the lead actress'sperformance.
So who do you guys have herefor best international film?

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I have Amelia Perez Interesting, still winning.
I think this will be its bigaward of the night.
How do you think that will be?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
received.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
It will be interesting.
But yeah, I just think you knowJacques Yard.
Jacques Yard, Is that how yousay his name?
The director Yard, Is that howyou say his name?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
The director's name.
That's how you say his name.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Jacques, you know, is a beloved French director and I
just I, I think this film hadso much steam going in and right
after the nominations beingnominated 13 times I just think
a lot of people are set withvoting for this as best
international film.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
My pick is I'm still here.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
So it is really tight at the top here.
Just looking at the odds, thegirl with a neat with the needle
, I feel like, is on the outsidelooking in, but flow has six to
one odds.
The seed of the sacred fig hasfive to one odds.
Amelia Perez is basically threeto one and I'm still here is
two to one.
So I think this could go anyway.
Really, I again I love seeingFlo and we'll get to best

(29:52):
animated feature here in asecond, but I love seeing Flo as
kind of a dual nominee in thosetwo different categories.
Amelia Perez like I said, Ithink that it was their award to
lose two months ago, maybe evena month ago, and now it's like,
have they done enough to loseit?
Um, so it'll be reallyinteresting.
I think I will also go withAmelia Perez here, even though I

(30:15):
don't feel great about it.
Um, but all align with max,because if I'm going to lose to
to somebody, I'd rather lose toerica another, another, I would
love to see erica create anentire episode, yeah, so that
would be fun come in here andwhoop us

Speaker 3 (30:37):
yeah and honestly with.
So if, yeah, if erica picks upbest international over us and
original score and maybe, and weall went different ways on
production design it's gonna be.
It's gonna be really hard to tocome back once you get to like
two up.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yeah, you're sitting pretty yeah, well again in most
years yes years.
Yes, when we kind of know whatthe top six, seven, eight, you
know um awards might look likethis year.
Who knows, there could, wecould still differ on a lot of
stuff here at the top.
So we will move on now toanimated feature and short on

(31:14):
our bracket.
Let's start with best animatedfeature short film, uh, where
your nominees are beautiful men,wander to wonder, yuck,
exclamation point magic candiesand, in the shadow of the Cyprus
fun titles there, um, I I don'tknow.

(31:36):
Beautiful men, one for the boys.
I have no idea what this movieis about.
Wander to wonder, don't know.
Yet again, this is one in thelast couple of years done a
really good job of what you know, getting out to see all these
films or finding them on demandat home.
Lacking in my efforts so far,consensus favorite seems to be

(32:02):
beautiful men men.
I'll zag a little bit and justgo wander to wonder here I also
have wander to wonder.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
So uh, I hate that you zag there.
It's a stop motion, stop motionfeature that looks, has like
feels of like stop the movie,stop motion, like it's like kind
of that crude stop motion soyeah, very excited.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
I think that is a fan favorite to win too but I'm
going with magic candies magiccandies.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Another one where Alex and I could have pie in our
face, which then takes us tobest animated feature in my
opinion.
I could have pie in our face,which then takes us to, uh, best
animated feature In my opinion.
Excuse me, still early overhere.
Um, I think this is one of yourstrongest categories of the
evening, right here.
Uh, your nominees are memoir ofa snail, wallace and Gromit,

(32:57):
vengeful, most foul inside outto flow, and the wild robot.
You already know where I'mgoing.
Where are you guys?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
I am also going uh, flow, uh and I hope flow wins.
I've heard a lot of in doing myresearch for this episode.
Wild robot apparently is verystrong, but I'm hoping that the
little film from Latvia can canpull this one out.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Oh, this is.
This is such a strong categoryand this is the one I probably
struggled with the most, causethere's two that I feel like
could really take it.
I would love wild robot to win,but that is not my pick.
Oh God, I don't want to likecommit to it, but I'm gonna,
I'll go.
I'm gonna go with flow too.

(33:46):
That was, I could not decidebetween that or memoir of a
snail flow on uh, the servicemax right now it is yeah, you're
pumping that out here I, I am.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yes, yeah, you're welcome.
I I called, I made some calls.
I I got Flo on the service.
Go watch it on demand.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
It is great I am seeing a lot of folks finally
able to log that film onLetterboxd, experience the magic
of that movie, and so hopefullythat you know, I know the wild
robot, like Erica was saying, isbeloved and perhaps the
favorite right now going intooscar night.
But flow's making a strong pushhere and and I think that it it

(34:24):
deserves its moment here.
All right, so now we are reallyworking towards the top, uh,
top half of the evening.
We will start with best filmediting.
Of course this is a bigprecursor to who may walk away
with best best pitcher.
So your five nominated filmshere are wicked, amelia perez,

(34:44):
the brutalist, anora andconclave.
Um, I hope this isn't.
I hope I'm not showing my handtoo early here with my best
pitcher selection, but I'm gonnago with inori here for best
film editing.
I know that we've talked a lotabout how that movie, for 45

(35:05):
minutes to an hour, feelssafty's, safty brothers-esque in
terms of the anxiety that itcan induce, and I think that is
all in part thanks to this notonly the script but the editing
of bouncing back and forthbetween two different characters
arguing, yelling and screamingat each other.
All that is so well done.

(35:27):
Sean baker edits his own films,so I think that if he is
somehow left out of best pictureor best director, he would
still take home an award herefor best editing, and and so I
will be going with Sean Bakerand Nora.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I'm going with the brutalist.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
I also have the brutalist here Interesting.
It's a long movie and it's intwo parts and there's an
epilogue and an overture andthere's a lot of you know.
There is some some really goodfilmmaking throughout and I

(36:09):
think the editing here I thinkwe start to feel a little bit of
a brutalist, at least on my, onmy board gets a little top
heavy.
We get a little top heavy withthe brutalist.
So and I believe it startshere- Interesting, interesting.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Okay, it could be a big one here.
All right, moving on tocinematography, our five
nominees, another one that Ithink in the last couple of
years we've come to understand,a really important category and
a really exciting win.
Um, I know I wouldn't put it up.
I think our, our apex mountainfor, like the cool kids award,

(36:44):
is best original screenplay.
But also cinematography, um, is, is one that we've been paying
attention to a lot here over thelast handful of years.
So your nominees here are maria,the pablo lorraine film
starring angelina jolie, youhave emilia perez, dune part two
, nosferatu and the brutalist.
You know, even though I'm notthe biggest fan of the film,

(37:07):
it's really tempting to picknosferatu here, because the
lighthouse was once nominated uh, the robert edgers film, of
course and did not walk awaywith a win, and so to see
Nosferatu maybe come in as sortof the sophomore addition to
Robert Eggers, gettingrecognized by the Academy, would

(37:29):
be really cool.
But I also kind of am leaningtowards the Brutalist as maybe
picking up some of these topfive, top six, top seven awards
here.
And so Dune Part Two andnosferatu are right there.
I think they look great.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
But the brutalist I think it's recognized for for
its craft here this is also acategory that I this is probably
one of my favorite categories,um, and I am really.
I would love to see nosferatuwalk away with this award, but
my pick is the brutalist.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Just knowing the oscars yeah, I also have the
brutalist guess what theyfucking filmed on fucking 70
millimeter vista vision and theymade sure you knew about it
right like it is a thing that ispart of this movie that there
are canisters that they had toroll around throughout venice,

(38:28):
throughout cam.
The brutalist is running on whatit shot on and you know that is
the cinematography, that isthat is like if, if any, you
know, if any of these voters whoobviously, after reading some

(38:48):
stuff this morning, might neverwatch movies, if they know one
thing they know that theBrutalist is in Vista Vision,
right, and so I think that willmake people vote for the
Brutalist.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
It is interesting, right, because of maybe your
three favorites in this category.
The Brutalist is long AF, sohave Academy voters sat through
the whole thing or are they justchecking a box based off what
they've heard?
Nosferatu as a genre film howmany Academy voters are sitting
down to watch that picture?
Academy voters are sitting downto watch that picture.

(39:22):
And then Dune Part 2, based offits past merits, does it hold
enough acclaim in Oscar voters'hearts from past years?
An interesting one, I think,one that's sort of up in the air
here.
All right, best adaptedscreenplay Max.
Let's have you go first here.
All right, best adaptedscreenplay Max let's have you go
first here.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
So this one is kind of more from the heart, but I
think Nickel Boys will be takingthis home the only award that
it wins on this night, and justthe fact that you know that is
adapted from a well-known novel.
It's a first-time filmmaker um,it's, you know, a younger, uh

(40:06):
person film, I would say so.
I I think it, and the way itwas adapted as well, is is is
really interesting and very,almost experimental, and I hope
that the Academy can recognizeit.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
I have conclave as mine.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I have conclave as well.
I think that conclave is themost traditional Oscar Beatty
film that's in your best picture.
Race makes a lot of sense andagain, it's the music and it's
the dialogue in that film thatare its two biggest strengths.
And so to recognize, you know,these, these cardinals, these

(40:51):
popes talking in a room, I think, is what the academy is going
to do here if nickel boys winsyou know, this could turn into a
new cool, cool person award yes, right right, but if it's
conclave, then yeah, okay.
So getting to the real cool kidsaward here.
Uh, best, original screenplay.
Your nominees are september 5the brutalist, a real pain, the

(41:13):
substance and a nora erica.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
We'll have you go first um, my pick is a nora
interesting.
Yeah, I your beloved.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Your beloved is sitting right there which one
the substance, the substance,yeah, I mean that is, that is my
like.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Like I said, I hope that I'm wrong on a lot of
things I would be happy to losethis competition if it meant
that we see some real mood likegood, not that an aura isn't
great.
I really did love, love anora,but the substance is better.
You know, the substance isbetter in so many ways but, um,

(41:50):
so yeah, I would be happy tolose this whole entire
competition if it meant somelike genuinely good movies win.
But I am going with anora.
It is a pretty like strongscreenplay.
I.
I think that Sean Baker doesdeserve his flowers in some
capacity, um, but I also think areal pain has a good chance,

(42:12):
because a real pain is anincredible movie.
It's got a really beautifulscript, um, but Anora, I think,
is a little stronger.
So that's my pick.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
I am also going with Anora.
I think this will be the awardthat it gets.
This will be the moment thatSean Baker gets to go up and
speak.
And yeah, unfortunately, Ithink Oscars you know, at least
in my top six Oscars are goingto Oscar and yeah, this is where

(42:43):
we get the Onora Award.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
I mean, I would not be mad at Onora at all winning
this award.
The substance is just such afun original idea.
That, of course, is borrowingfrom body horror classics of the
past and and taking a lot ofwhat we've come to know as the

(43:08):
dark side of hollywood and andjust representing that on screen
.
But I still feel like it's sucha fun and exciting original
movie it'd be very good out it.
It sure would be.
But that's not to say thatsomething like a Nora is not as
as deserving.
And I think that you know, aNora can be a tough film.
I feel like whoever's left fromthe old guard of of the Academy

(43:31):
they have a tough decisiondoomed herself into this, this
world of of wealth, and I don'twant to say necessarily like

(44:05):
misogyny, but you know theparents are disapproving and and
it's almost like this prettywoman type story.
So it has some classicHollywood elements to it, but
it's very controversial.
Or do you want to recognize thesubstance, which is almost an
indictment of what's wrong withwith Hollywood and movie making?
Because I don't think that.
I mean, I think that, like, ifthe brutalists, or September

(44:27):
five when this award, then thatis like old hall, old Hollywood,
old Academy.
You know, oscars, oscaring, soto speak, right, a real pain
somewhere in the middle.
It's just kind of thatGoldilocks bowl of porridge.
That's just kind of thatGoldilocks bowl of porridge,
that's just right.
I love that screenplay as well.
So this is a tricky one for me.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
It's a really strong category it really is.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
You know, the substance has been doing really
well at some of these otheraward bodies, at some of these
other ceremonies, and so part ofme thinks this is a good
opportunity to get a category upon you guys.
But because I think I likeEnora not quite as much as I
like the Substance, but it'sright there, it wouldn't really

(45:13):
hurt me to see that film win.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Gosh.
What does your gut tell you?
You know?

Speaker 1 (45:20):
what this is OK.
What does your gut tell you?
You know what this is okay.
This, I think the substancewinning this would be like.
The first year that I felt likethis was really a thing was
when emerald finnell won forpromising young woman.
And the substance and corley'sscript gives me more promising
young woman energy than anoradoes.
And now maybe that's backwards,but I'm going with the

(45:42):
substance.
Heck it, love it all right.
So now this takes us to our topsix awards for the night.
We will start with actress.
We'll go supporting and thenlead.
So in supporting, um, I thinkthat this, this may be one of
the most clear-cut awards of theevening.

(46:02):
I'll go first and just say ZoeSaldana for Amelia Perez and
sort of just leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, I am kind of begrudgingly picking Zoe as well
, although I fully believe thatAriana Grande deserves this
award, just consideringeverything.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
But yep, zoe deserves this award just considering
everything.
But yep, zoe, the research thatwas done last night.
Yeah, I believe isabella arianagrande is going to get up and
accept this award I willliterally burst into tears I
think the run of saldana Saldanais coming to an end.

(46:43):
I think Amelia, I think this iswhere Amelia Perez starts to
really obviously feel the hurtfrom what the controversy around
that film is happening and I, II just think voters are going
to go with Ariana Grande as anod to old Hollywood.

(47:07):
I also think there's a littlebit of we want young people to
watch this show.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Is there.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
And maybe they are going to try and position
themselves to be like oh, thisshow gave Ariana Grande Like
that would be the Instagram realTikTok moment, where all of a
sudden viewers start to tune in.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Because, of course, the show always says I like the
strategic thinking Right.
Because the Oscars do almostalways traditionally start with
best supporting actor and bestsupporting actress Yep always
traditionally start with bestsupporting actor and best
supporting actress yep.
So if, within the first 45minutes of the broadcast, this
moment happens and it goes viral, do more viewers tune in

(47:51):
totally I mean, the answer isyes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
So yeah, I, I have chosen ariana grande.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
That would just be wild, though, because I think,
if you, if you I love that yousay in your research, because
looking back at the data.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
It's zoe's to lose it is apart from a few few
different sources that aresaying that ariana has moved
into the, the front yeah yeah,um again because of all the
fallout, and there was anextension on voting right, so
people could sit and really sussout what happened, even though

(48:29):
it's not Zoe Saldana's problemor fault or anything.
It's the other lead in the film.
Yeah, I just think this isgoing to be the biggest zag of
well, this, I don't know.
I have one other big zag, butwe'll see, we'll see what
happens.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Okay, here we go, here we go.
It's getting interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Wait, did you say what your pick is?
I'm going, zoe.
Oh, you are, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Okay, Okay, so best actress now your five nominees
are Carla Sofia Garcon forAmelia Perez, Cynthia Erivo for
Wicked, Fernanda Torres from I'mStill here, Mikey Madsen from
Anora and Demi Moore for theSubstance, Back-to-back years of
a genre pitcher winning BestActress.
I hope so.
You know, Emma Stone won lastyear for Poor Things and I would

(49:15):
say an upset over LilyGladstone, and so I once again
hope that the genre pitchertakes home this award.
Demi Moore you know I wouldlove to see her build off of
that speech that she gave at theGolden Globes.
I know she's been winning atother ceremonies, but this could
be a huge moment in Oscarshistory and I hate to say that,

(49:38):
like Mikey, will have her timeagain, but I think that's where
we lie right now.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
I think Demi Moore locked this up with the Golden
Globes and if she doesn't win,I'd be shocked.
If it goes to Fernanda Torres,who is a fine actor, fine actor,
it will be.
There will be mayhem in thestreets.
Demi Moore needs to win this.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
This is like I want to be wrong about this, but I'm
going with Mikey.
I just there's just, I feelthis, I don't know, nevermind,
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna eat my words, butyep, that's going with Mikey
Okay.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Some voters have come out and said like I didn't even
know who Mikey was before thisfilm.
It's incredible, which isunbelievable.
Get me on the voting base, yeah, However though.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Like does Right.
But like.
Does that surprise me that oldguard, Oscar voters are not
watching Scream five and six,you know?
Like, or whatever she was infive, Right, she's in five.
Once upon a time in Hollywood.
Once upon a time in hollywood.
Once upon a time in hollywood,right.
Um, yeah, it's frustrating, allright, so now over to best
supporting actor.

(50:56):
Your nominees are jeremy strongfor the apprentice, yura borsov
from anora, edward norton froma complete unknown guy, pierce
from the brutalist and kierancolkin for a real pain, I think,
on the count of three kieranthis is the most chalk pick of
the night, right like I thinkthis has been locked up for eons

(51:17):
.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Uh, it is kieran cole and honestly well deserved.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
He's.
He's great in that movie.
Um tough to watch at times butalso his character has such a
good arc in that.
In that film, jesse eisenbergjust a great score or, excuse me
, a great script.
The way that he wrote umkaren's character and and their
campaign has been really fun towatch throughout um kind of the

(51:42):
award season.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
So I do love that man .
He's just, he's great ineverything I've seen him and he
is very well deserved of thisaward.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Which then moves us on to best actor.
Your nominees are SebastianStan for the Apprentice Awesome,
that for the rest ofSebastian's career, when he's
featured in a movie and thetrailer rolls, I can say Academy
Award nominee Sebastian Stan.
Coleman Domingo someone whogosh they just as as a Coleman

(52:11):
fan from day one someone whojust he needs he needs the stars
to align on a year where andnow.
I think that for a long time,people thought this was maybe it
because he was nominated theprevious year for Rustin.
He's been great in so manyother supporting roles in the
past.
Unfortunately though he is, heis one of the the previous year
for Rustin.
He's been great in so manyother supporting roles in the

(52:32):
past.
Unfortunately, though, he isone of the underdogs in this
category right now for his rolein Sing Sing.
You then have Ralph Fiennes forConclave, timothee Chalamet for
A Complete Unknown and AdrianBrody for the Brutalist Maxwell.
You go first here.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
So again in thinking that the Oscars want younger
people, to be here, and the factthat Adrian Brody already has
an Oscar statue in his house.
I am going with TimothéeChalamet.
Bob Dylan is an extremelypowerful and important figure in

(53:10):
American culture, andespecially even if, like we
think, a lot of old people votefor these awards.
Guess what?
I bet you?

Speaker 1 (53:19):
they're all Bob Dylan fans, and I just think and have
sat through a complete unknown,as opposed to the three and a
half hour film They've nominatedJames.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Mangold for Best Director.
It's up for Best Picture.
Monica Barbeau was alsonominated for Best Supporting
Actress.
I think Timothee Chalamet willbe ascending the stairs to
accept the award on Oscar night.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
I'd love to see it, but Adrian Brody is my choice.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Wow.
So I I'm split here, then,between the two of you, because
I'm going in one of these twodirections.
You know, I feel like refinesis he's great and conclave.
I think that what that filmsuffers from, though, is a lot
of well-known actors playingdress up.
However, coleman Domingo like Isaid, I just think that he got

(54:15):
kind of jobbed here in a toughyear where, for whatever reason,
he fell out of voters hearts.
And then Sebastian Stan I thinkhis big win is the nomination.
So it comes down to timmy andadrian, and as much as I like
adrian brody, the person I like,timothy chalamet, the person a

(54:35):
million times more, um, and andI think it's time, it's crazy,
you know I I think that when youlook at his generation of
actors, and who has returned tothe Academy the most with
consistency is probably himSaoirse Ronan, emma Stone.

(54:56):
Saoirse has yet to have hermoment, and I think that it's
still coming.
Emma Stone has had hers,obviously, and very recently.
So I think you're right, max.
I think that it's it's time toreally usher in this new
generation of a list Hollywoodsuperstars that could go on to

(55:17):
become the next crop of, likeyour next Meryl Streep's, your
next Denzel's, your next TomHanks, and so it starts this
year with Timothee Chalamet.
I think so.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
All right.
So then now we have the lasttwo of the evening, the big ones
.
We have Best Director, whereyour nominees are Jacques Adard
for Amelia Perez, james Mangoldfor A Complete Unknown, coralie
Fregette for the Substance,brady Corbett for the Brutalist
and sean baker for a nora.
This is tough.

(55:51):
Max sent me um like an 80minute long video of brady
talking the other day in aninterview about the use of ai
and how good and how it was sogood used to really authenticate
the Hungarian accent portrayedby the actors in the film.

(56:12):
And you're right, it was soconvincing I think the man could
talk his way out of a paper bag.
And so for him to get up thereand give an acceptance speech
that you know is going to bepraising practical filmmaking,
final cut.
You know a director's right tomake the movie that they want to

(56:34):
make.
What it takes to get a filmlike this off the ground would
be awesome.
Could he potentially get playedoff?
I think like it's almost agiven versus like what is sean
baker to go up there and say,perhaps, like, do you need to
have the the sensor button readyto go?

(56:56):
Um, not, not that he's acontroversial figure, but his?

Speaker 3 (57:00):
most recent speech he talked about, uh, theaters and
and 90 day windows and like,right, how we need to up the and
like I love that, sean, yes, ofcourse that's.
That's not gonna.
That's not gonna get you upthere.
That's a.
That's what I'm saying both.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
I think both these guys, I think sean and brady,
would both go up there and besort of combative, yeah, in in
the message that they're goingto deliver corley, is she gonna
go up there and just have amoment and and be really sweet
and endearing?
It would be fantastic.
Um, I'm still undecided on thisone, so let's kick it to erica

(57:37):
first yeah, I mean sorry.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Yeah, I'm super decided on this one.
No, I it's between Sean Bakerand Brady for me, but and I
don't want either one of them totake home this award- to be
totally honest, you're a bigJames Mangold believer.
How did you know?
Oh God, I think I'm just goingto go with Brady, you know, with

(58:10):
the brutalist.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Yes, I am also going with Brady Corbett about the
journey of the artists, the, thefinal cut of it all, the you
know again, the canisters, the,this division, the, the
three-hour runtime, the fucking,just all of it.
Just I feel like is going to bevery like.

(58:42):
Oh yeah, we, we are.
I think the academy alwayswants to be like, we are for the
peer artist and you know a lotof the times they get that wrong
.
But I think this year they'regoing to go for Brady.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Corbett.
Here's my thinking.
I think that there is such asplit right now between the
Brutalist and Enora as far aswho's going to quote unquote win
the night, and I think that thebest pitcher, best director
categories aren't going to doanything to help that narrative.

(59:18):
I think they're going to besplit, which again, I'm showing
my hand for my best pitcherselection here by saying that I
I agree, brady Corbett probablywins best director for the
Brutalist, not necessarily whatI want to see happen, but I will
stay packed with the two of youand hopefully not lose a spot

(59:40):
here, and I will also go BradyCorbett for the Brutalist, which
then takes us to best pitcher,where your ten nominees are
Nickel Boysune, part two, I'mstill here.
The substance amelia perezwicked, a complete unknown
conclave.
The brutalist and anora I willbe going and I will be going the

(01:00:01):
brutalists and I will be goinganora.
Nice.
Good job, erica.
All right, uh, so you.
So, max, you do think that thiswill be a big night for the
brutalist then?

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Yes, I, I think what I have it best picture, best
director, um, I have it incinematography and editing, uh,
and original score.
So I think I think, listen, thebrutalist is like again, it's
like this big old kind of oldhollywood, but also like very I

(01:00:42):
don't know pure, and it's like amessage about being an artist,
right I.
I just think that's going totake a lot of the air from from
some of these other films,smaller films, even though the
brutal this is an independentsmall film as well.
But I don't know, I just feellike when we look back, like

(01:01:02):
this is the Oscar movie of ofthis year, this is the one that
we're going to remember, thatlike, oh yeah, the the year of
the brutalist, and you knowwe're going to look back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
I think we were talking about last episode last
episode last year um lastepisode that this would be in
the back half for you.
Back half.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
I don't think it's I don't think it's a great movie.
I, I, I, much rather see a Norapick up these, these awards
that I've given to thebrutalists.
Um, I'd much rather see a Norawin, uh, or, or God, even like
conclave or fucking.
The substance, the substance,um, but I, I, just something

(01:01:46):
about the brutalists just feels,feels like it's going to be
it's night and then, and thenmaybe you know age, really
poorly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
So we, erica, you and I, we have both split on
director and pitcher, which doesnot happen often and has
certainly not happened recently,where best pitcher and best
director do not go to the sameproduction.
So what is your thought processon giving it to a nora, when
you've also thought bradycorbett wins best director?
I don't know.
I'm like I just have thisfeeling that things are gonna go
in a really interesting waythis year because, like, kind of
just taking from what the twoof you have said throughout this
, this episode where we're likewe're kind of toying around with

(01:02:36):
the idea that, like they'retrying to bring in a younger,
like a younger viewer, um, andmaybe not prove to us all that
they are still just the boringacademy making these very like
you know, typical choices.
But I also feel like they'renot quite there yet you know

(01:02:58):
where they're not totally goingto just ignore movies like the
Brutalist and like completely doa big 180, where everything's
like we're gonna be reallyprogressive this year and like
do you know, like the substanceand stuff like that.
But I just I don't know Anorais just getting a lot.

(01:03:21):
There's a lot of talk of thismovie winning Best Picture.
It's really, I believe that itis between Anora and the
Brutalist.
It's like very 50 50 on both.
But as far as director goes, Ithink that brady is a stronger
director, like and what he didwith the brutalist, which is why

(01:03:44):
I feel like I had toacknowledge that in that
category.
But I, I don't know man, I'mjust and nor is the more fun
film right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
It's the more fun pick Again, like if we look back
10 years from now and Enora wonbest picture, we're going to
feel really good about that.
But the Oscars are known fornot getting it right.
Getting it right and, however,I do think they'll get it right
with something like TimotheeChalamet, even though, like this

(01:04:14):
, is the completely wrong andworse role for him to win this
award for.
But on, you know, but in a wayit is the right choice because
part of that conversation ishe's already paid his dues.
He's been here before, Right Uhyeah, I don't know the

(01:04:36):
brutalists to me, just feelslike it is.
It is going to take the night.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
I'm looking at my you know top eight and I have very
little.
There's not a lot that alignshere, other than for me I have.
I have editing and picturegoing to a nora which are tied
together, and then originalscreenplay and demi, more tied
together for the substance.

(01:05:02):
But other than that I'm allover the board and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
It's not one of these years where there is one film
that I think is going to takehome any more than maybe four or
five awards and again, if anoradoes pick up editing early on,
I I think obviously that isalways a precursor like that
will show us, will tell ususually who is going to take

(01:05:26):
home best picture.
And if it perhaps beats thesubstance in original screenplay
as well, yeah, yeah, yeah, Imean it's crazy that I only have
one award for Nora on my boardand that is best original
screenplay Right, which isreally sad.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Right.
So I don't I mean we will beable to go over these here in
real time together while we'rewatching the award ceremony, but
I just know, based off of ourconversation that we just had,
there's opportunity for some ofus to maybe get 15 out of 23

(01:06:04):
right.
Like we are all over the placehere.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Well, I think, no matter who wins, I think it's
going to be.
Last year we were what it waslike 20 out of 23, right, oh
yeah, you know, like we are allover the place here.
Well, I think, no matter whowins, I think it's going to be a
.
You know, last year we werewhat it was like 20 out of 23 or
something.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
The last couple of years, I think we've both been
in the 20s.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Yeah, I think a winner here maybe gets 16.
Wow yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
So this is your first Oscar gambit.
How does it feel?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Like I said, I hope I'm wrong.
I hope that there's a reallyexciting and game-changer of an
Oscar year.
I feel like some of my picksare a little bit game-changing
but I did play it safe in a lotof them.
But I'm excited to see whatthis year brings.

(01:06:47):
I'm very attached to some ofthese movies.
I'm excited to see what thisyear brings.
I'm very attached to some ofthese movies and I kind of in
the last few years I'm not a fanof the Oscars, I'm really not.
I'm more often disappointed.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
And so, yeah, we'll see how it goes.
Yeah, erica, I, I, you knowyour, your board here, I think
is is a very well played boardto come in here and, and you
know, people can say, oh well,it's just, you know, they're
just picking like the, the usualsuspects or whatever.

(01:07:26):
But looking at at your board, Ican see it coming, I feel like
I could make a strong case aboutany of my my picks too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
I'm not.
I'm I'm not really picking offof just kind of like well, this
is just, you know, I don't care,but I mean there's really
strong contenders in all ofthese categories and I might not
have picked my favorites, but Idid pick ones that I do still
believe are worthy of the award.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
I do think.
Correct me here real quick ifI'm wrong, Max, but I think, on
sound and visual effects, allthree of us have Dune Part 2.
Yeah, yep, okay.
So I feel better about thatthen.
However, having Dune Part 2 forproduction design, there are a
few cases, and that's one ofthem, where I know I'm going
with my heart perhaps over myhead this year and I'm I'm OK

(01:08:16):
with that.
At this point, however, I am.
I am almost wondering if my myappreciation for some of my more
, for the films that I likebetter, my favorites, if I'm
letting like Dune part two andthe substance and and even a
Nora to a certain extent, if I'mletting that sort of cloud my
judgment here.
But we will see, time will tell.

(01:08:39):
Okay, so we have a.
We have a couple of funannouncements here to end the
show with.
First, the three of us will beat the grand cinema hosting the
Academy Awards in a theater fora live watch along party.
We are so thankful to the folksat the Grand Cinema for
inviting us back.
Max and I were able to do thislast year and it was a great

(01:09:00):
experience.
Sold out theater tickets arestill available for you to come
down to the Grand Cinema.
Dress up in your your mostexciting Academy attire.
You can go black tie.
You can dress like a characterfrom some of the movies.
I'm sure we're going to see acouple of wicked outfits.
We might see maybe a Bob Dylanor two in the mix, and so can't

(01:09:21):
wait for the night down there atthe Grand Cinema.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Maybe we'll spray some blood on everybody at the
end.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
That would be great.
That would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
We could make it real .

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
We could just bring the substance with us.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Yeah, we could pass out little vials of the
substance to everybody.
That would be really fun Somegreen jello.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like some energy
shots or something like that,because, who knows, it's going
to be a long night it's always along, a long broadcast and so
we will be there from start tofinish.
Once again, at the grand cinema, there'll be three different
theaters open for screeningquote unquote local celebrities.
We love being called that, andso we will be in one of those

(01:10:03):
theaters.
The way it works is that whenyou arrive, you get to choose
what theater that you go into,so we will be out in front of
our auditorium, obviously,campaigning for you to join us
along for a live commentarytrack, and then that will be our
episode that we release nextweek, so you can go back and
listen.
Max, what did we learn lastyear from this experience?

(01:10:23):
What?
What stands out to you, what?
What can we prepare Erica forhere?

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Uh, what stands out to you?
What can we prepare, erica, forhere?
You know, don't worry aboutgetting laughs, just react in
full time or in real time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
It is almost like doing stand-up, though right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
I mean, yeah, improv have some good nuggets that you
can throw out there, a littletrivia stuff that you know if,
if we know, something is goingto win.
Maybe we have like a littlelittle fact about the, the sound
design behind dune part twoalso it it moves very fast too.

(01:11:04):
So there's not a ton of time toto talk about the wins as the
broadcast is going on.
We live in the commercials,right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Yes, it makes for a really interesting podcasting
experience because it's shortform.
It is not like this where wecan sit down for an hour and a
half and just talk throughacceptance speeches and award
presentations, because we we arejust as interested as the 80
people who are in the theaterwith us and what's happening on

(01:11:36):
screen, and so really lookingforward to it.
Um, any any other questions orthoughts about the night?
Erica?

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
No, I'm excited.
I went last year and watchedyou guys.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
This is true.
You were there, yes, so youknow a little bit about what
it's going to be.
Yeah, year and watched you guys.
This is true.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
You were there, yes, so you know a little bit about
what it's going to be.
Yeah, and obviously I'm a biglover of the grand and I'm so
happy to be doing this with youguys.
I feel honored.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
It's going to be a fun time.
It's going to be a really funtime.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
It will be.
We will do our best to bringthe studio to the theater with
us.
Make it homey, bring some movieposters.
We'll have some giveaways.
Where is oscar, by the way?
Oscar's?
Uh, downstairs, I believe,right now, our cardboard cutout
statue, um, so yeah, we will, wewill dress it up, we will make
it as gala as we possibly can.
Um, and now, before we get outof here, um, you know, back by

(01:12:23):
popular demand is our newsegment.
People are saying.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
People are saying oh also, oh yes, before we get into
, people are saying there is anew uh feature in our
description of our episodes ohyes, people well, this is part
of people are saying yeah, so wewant to hear what people are
saying, because it's called fanmail.
You can send a text to the show.
There's a link in thedescription of the podcast,

(01:12:50):
whether you're on Spotify, AppleStitcher, whatever Deezer
podcast, all that stuff.
So go click on that link.
You then can send a text to us.
Tell us your hottest movietakes, Tell us what we got wrong
.
Tell us what you like, what youhate.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
This is a great way for us to build like a mailbag
episode yeah, yeah, absolutelyplease, please, interact.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Uh, because we want to hear from the listener, we
love listen our listeners.
Um, and you know, thank you forall the support and all that,
but uh, but yeah, go, go usethis fan mail, uh, application
tell us what you want to hear ifyou want to do an episode too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell us howto do our show Episode
suggestions Please.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Okay, something that I'm bringing to the table here,
because it's, I mean, like Iknew this would be the case here
.
It was only a matter of time.
People are saying that theywere too rough on Madam Web.
And listen, I told y'all, Itold you that Madam Web is how
you have fun with a comic bookmovie, and it's OK for it to

(01:14:00):
look like trash and to be weird,because guess what Madam Web is
.
I'm on record of saying it andI'll stay on record.
It's really digestible.
I'm on record of saying it andI'll stay on record.
It's really digestible, it's a,it's the perfect movie to watch
with friends, to have a fewbeers over and to just like
enjoy the schlockiness and themessiness of it.
Because right now, what'shappening?
And this movie is making amillion dollars, hand you know,

(01:14:22):
it's just making money hand overfoot and it's ridiculous.
Like every single day still,I'm looking at the box office
mojo and on, like a randomtuesday, it's like oh, another,
you know, five million dollarshere, oh, and it comes the
weekend again.
Oh, another seven million, oh,another eight million.
Captain america, the red hulk Idon't know what's this movie

(01:14:44):
called?
I don don't even know.
Brave New World.
Brave New World.
This movie is reportedly justthe worst.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
The absolute worst.
Yeah, I've heard that it's theworst in the worst way, where
it's like not fun Right, likesomething like Madam Web or the
Venom movies or even I guessCraven the Hunter which I never
saw, but just extremelyunimportant yeah.
People are saying that that theSony superhero movies are now

(01:15:12):
more fun than Marvel moviesbecause they are awesomely bad,
Thank you.
As opposed to Marvel moviesthat are just blandly bad.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Thank you.
Did I not say this a year ago?
You?

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
did?
You were on it, you were on it,you were on Madam Web Island.
And now listen, the hotel'sgoing up, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
I'm working the front desk.
What are your thoughts on MadamWeb?
Did you ever see that picture?

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
I sure didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
I'm so sorry about that, and are you sure that your
opinion isn't a little bitskewed for your desperate love
for Dakota Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Oh, it was then and it is now Okay, Dakota Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Emma Roberts, Cindy Sweeney.
The Holy Trinity.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
The Holy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Trinity For the girlies.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
For the girlies, and you guys didn't appreciate that
in the moment.
Shame on you.
Yeah, because.
So what do you have now?
A 500-year-old Harrison Fordturning into the Red Hulk.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
What is this and?

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
it's making so much money.
It's so frustrating Becausepeople are saying that a movie
like the Gorge should haveopened in theaters this past
weekend instead of being dumpedto Apple TV.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Listen, I'm saying every movie should be opened in
a fucking theater.
Okay, Sean.
Baker.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
I mean, I'm right there with you.
And now listen, I know thatthose of you who have seen the
Gorge and I understand, I agree,a lot of it looks bad and is
infuriating.
Honestly, scott derrickson, Ithink, is a very talented
filmmaker.
Apple is a studio that we knowhas so much money to spend on

(01:16:55):
production, and so it's justkind of inexplicable as to why,
um, parts of the gorge look asbad as it as it does.
However, you can't tell me thatthis wouldn't be the perfect
counter-programming to somethinglike Captain America.
Tell me again Brave New World,brave New World.
God, what a fucking terriblesubtitle.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
Well, it's a Brave New World.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Is it Okay and so?
Yeah, I don't know.
We have to do better.
In February We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Marvel's lost me.
I haven't watched a marvelmovie in quite some time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
A lot hinges on on fantastic four and it listen.
I, I think I said this a coupleweeks ago.
The trailer looked like tv.
Yeah, uh, I, I I do think we'regetting to an end point I think
it's.
I think's starting.
The dirt is going on the coffinNow.
You know, the coffin was justin the dirt.
Now the dirt is being shoveledon.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
I have one more.
People are saying uh, nuggetsfor this episode.
Do you guys have anything thatyou've heard, that you've read?
I do?
Okay, go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Uh, this is.
This is hot off the press thismorning.
Oh, people are saying the JamesBond franchise is being set out
to see.
It has been acquired.
Barbara Broccoli and Michael GWilson have signed creative
control of the James Bondfranchise to Amazon MGM Studios.

(01:18:27):
Was it not already?
No, the group announcedThursday, february 20th.
The three parties have formed anew joint venture to house the
James Bond intellectual propertyrights.
Amazon announced on Thursday,and those parties will remain
co-owners of the franchise.
But following the close, butfollowing the close of this JV's

(01:18:51):
transaction, it will be AmazonMGM Studios to have the final
say on Creative, which is a hugedeal for this IP.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Isn't this where we?
The reason why I thought thatthis was already happening is
because isn't this where wethought that the series starring
um let Letitia, uh, letitiaLynch?
Isn't this where we thoughtthat the, the new mini series
was going to to be housed anywayon Amazon?

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
I think this has been kind of in the works for a long
time, so it's been a rumor, buttoday the ink dried that Amazon
now has control of James Bond.
Now what does that do?
Yeah, a, it's going to play ahuge thing in the casting of a
new James Bond.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Raping of this ip and oversaturation, like amazon has
done with such things as uh,lord of the rings, right jack
reacher, jack reacher.
To a lesser extent, yeah, or?

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
yeah, um, and, and yeah, I mean, do we still get
james bond movies in thetheaters?
Gosh does, does this for.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Nicholas Holtz sake?
I hope so.
Yeah, yeah, me too yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
I hope.
Yeah, yeah, yes, um, but yeah,uh, I.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
I think this is a huge misstep by the broccoli uh
and Wilson state which, likethey have been, you know, the
the the investors, of thepossessors of James Bond since
the beginning, and they'vealways they've, you know, and I
usually this term is not used inan um, you know unnecessarily

(01:20:35):
like endearing way, but likethey've, they've been such good
gatekeepers of this franchiseand not relinquishing creative
control to anybody for decades.
Now, 60 years, yeah, that's toobad.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Uh, yeah.
And so yeah it's.
And Michael G Wilson is, youknow has come out and said I am
stepping back from producing theJames Bond films.
And so, yeah, it's.
It's tough times for my girl,barbara, who you know has been
such a good steward of the Bondfilms.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
And she's like the, she's like the genie bus.
I love God.
Yeah, I hope moviemaking.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
I hope they don't.
They don't fuck this up.
I hope they don't fuck this up.
Amazon don't fucking do it,Bezos.
So that's sad.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
I've never seen a single James Bond.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
You've never seen a single James Bond movie.
No no, daniel Craig's no.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Wow, shocking you are spring chicken that's great
that's like having a whole lifeahead of you still.
I think I'm good, though,without that okay, my last
people are saying is that and Iknow that we're a movie podcast,
but again, just to kind ofcircle back and touch on

(01:21:59):
something that was brought upduring our most anticipated
episode of of 2025, the whitelotus, one of my favorite tv
shows, I think, of the 21stcentury, if I'm being completely
honest, people are saying thatthis could be the darkest,
weirdest, perhaps most upsettingand violent season yet.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
I already feel that too.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Do you Just after?

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
that first episode and there is a lot of talk after
this.
Just the one episode and justwhat we've seen and people are
already like, oh, this is goingto get weird, yeah, especially
the family.
Like Jason Isaac's family, theRattlers, I is going to get
weird, especially the family.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Jason Isaac's family.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
The Rattlers, I think is their last name.
Rattliffs, rattliffs.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Okay, yeah, and we have Arnold Schwarzenegger's son
as this like creepy finance bro.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Which sounds like he's just playing himself, but
he's already just given me likereally nasty vibes there's.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
but I'm really intrigued by the three the girls
, the girl group and and let mejust say, the casting of
michelle monaghan, leslie bibband carrie coon.
Incredible job by mike whiteand team, because these three
women, I feel like are soperfectly cast as friends.

(01:23:21):
As you know, the schwarzeneggercharacter calls them like
cougars.
They are the perfect group ofwomen to be on vacation together
unpacking.
You know, leslie bib has agreat uh part in in in one of
the scenes where she's talkingabout what her husband said to
her before the three of themwent on this girl's trip.
We're like no, it's not amidlife crisis or whatever, and

(01:23:43):
you know it's a victory tour.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
It's a victory tour.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
And and right off the bat, you know that carrie coon
does not share that samesentiment.
But now also, how far are isleslie and michelle, how far are
their characters going to takethis quote unquote victory tour?
I can't wait.
I also love that storyline aswell, after just one episode.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
I saw somebody wonder if I can't remember her name
from the second season.
But the girl who was she wasJennifer Coolidge's assistant,
the girl with the Bob, and shekind of goes off with the
British guy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Ok, yes, you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Somebody was saying that she is Carrie Coon's
daughter in like potentially.
But I don't know that's, that'sthat's what just people are
saying, but you know people arejust coming up with with
theories of this this seasonalready and I'm locked in in it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Just it's it's already so good people are
saying too, that lisa fromblackpink is the beyonce of
thailand and I just love thatfor her.
I love that my k-pop girliesare are getting their time to
shine on hbo.
Jenny did this in the idol, nowlisa withpink, so I love the
casting there as well.
I'm really excited for Mook'sstoryline.

(01:24:57):
She seems really sweet and cuteand innocent here in this first
episode, but I know that thatstoryline is also going to get a
little hot, a little steamy.
Have you watched season one orI mean episode one of season
three yet?
Max?
I have not finished season two.
Okay, and let me just say that,because I think that you know
people are always saying thatthe White Lotus is an anthology

(01:25:21):
series and you don't necessarilyneed to watch one season to
start a new season fresh, Inthis case in particular, you
definitely need to finish seasontwo before you start season
three because of one keycharacter's appearance.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
I think that you would be doing yourself a
disservice just hopping into onelike any given season of the
show, because, while they aredifferent, there are little like
nods to the season Maybe not somuch the first season that felt
like its own but there'scharacters that but belinda yeah
, belinda has.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
She is back for the third season now again and um
and coolidge is in all three ofthem well coolidge is not in
three, but the reason why she'snot in three is one of the
reasons why you need to watchtwo.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Yeah, yeah yeah, I do have something that I just feel
like it's not a people aresaying it is.
People have said it.
It's official.
Danny and Michael Filippo, thedirectors of Talk to Me, which
was a favorite movie of mine.
They have a new movie that wasjust announced that's coming out

(01:26:35):
this summer and it's not talkto me too, which is still that's
still in the works.
But this is a movie um calledbring her back, looks.
I.
I did not watch the trailerthat there's a teaser out.
I think it came out yesterday,but I'm already like sign me up.
I love the two.
Two of them.
Sally Hawkins is the main.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
You're a fish lover.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
My shape of water, my girl.
The tagline is only this.
This is all that's out.
A brother and sister uncover aterrifying ritual at the
secluded home of their newfoster mother.
Period.
End of story.
I'm.
People are saying this teaseris terrifying yes, people are
saying that it's terrifying,that it's creepy and we wouldn't

(01:27:21):
know, because we're not goingto watch it I'm not going to
watch it.
All I did see is that the veryopening scene, um is a cat
drinking out of or eating out of, like a little ceramic bowl,
and I and I'm just mentioningthis because I thought it was
super cool that the way thatthey have like the a24 logo like
engraved onto that, it's justvery subtle, um, and it's just a

(01:27:44):
very eerie shot, and I alreadythis is why you tried to bring a
stray cat into my home thismorning first of all, that cat
wanted to come in, but no, Ilove the two of these guys Like.
Talk to Me was an incrediblemovie.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
It was my favorite movie of what was that 2023?

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Was that just last year?
Wow, I think so.
Yeah, and I'm very excited forTalk to Me 2, which is going to
be a prequel to the first one,but I had no idea that this was
in the works, so it was kind ofa nice little treat that I got
yesterday and something to lookforward to for the summer.
Talk to Me also released in thesummertime, so just be on the
lookout.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
I see you clicking away over there.
Do you find something else thatpeople are saying?

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
I don't know, is this going?

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
to need to be a whole episode.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
I don't even know if this is news that should be
reported.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
It's the spirit of this moment, though, this little
time at the end of theseepisodes.
That's very true.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
This just dropped on IndieWire.
Barton Scorsese, oh gosh, justdropped on IndieWire.
Okay, barton Scorsese, oh gosh.
Uncle Marty, my beloved, hasannounced he will be executive
producing the Buzzy Cape Fearseries adaptation, but the tour

(01:29:10):
is actually looking to get wetin a different seaside.
Okay, so what did you say,marty's trying to get wet in a
different seaside.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Okay, so What'd you say?
Marty's trying to get wet,marty's trying to get wet.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Uncle Marty's trying to get wet.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
He is going to be.
Didn't know you liked to getbutt naked.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
He is.
He's working on a film set inHawaii Okay Crime film starring
Leonardo DiCaprio.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
You're already losing me.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
Emily Blunt and Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
Oh, I'm so out.
People are saying Uncle MartyIs this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Jungle Cruise 3?
.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
People are saying Uncle Marty's getting desperate
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Oh, that's a great way to end this segment.
God damn this.
Is really's a great way to endthis segment.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
God damn this is really disappointing if this
comes to pass, not good, allright.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
I love people are saying we're going to keep it
going, all right.
As for what's next, here on thepodcast, we will be releasing
our live show from the GrandCinema as we once again host a
theater screening of the AcademyAwards, so you can tune in,
kind of relive the night with uson that episode.
Max, once again, kudos to youfor editing something that is so
short form.

(01:30:23):
Thank you in advance.
Until next time, please followExcuse the Intermission on
Instagram and the three of us onLetterboxd to track what we are
watching between shows, and wewill talk to you next time on
ETI, where movies still matter.

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