ETI's Mark Wahlberg HOF

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, how's it going?
I'm Erica Krause.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm Alex McCauley and I'm Max Fosberg.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
And this is, Excuse the Intermission a discussion
show surrounding one of ourfavorite Boston natives, a man
of many uniforms, Mark Wahlberg.
Today, we're going to beranking some of his top movies
in celebration of his newestmovie, Flight Risk.
All of that on the other sideof this break.
All right, guys, we areswitching it up today.

(00:34):
Thank you for letting me takeon this episode.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Not the episode.
I thought we'd be in the backseat for Erica Wahlberg, yeah
right, mrs Erica Wahlberg.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
We needed a pilot, um , not the episode.
I thought we'd be in the backseat for this is erica walberg.
Yeah right, mrs erica walberg.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
we needed a pilot and uh, just so happened that erica
had a bald cap I mean, she's incharge of the play, she's the
new kid on the block, so itmakes sense, right?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
yeah, everyone's probably listening like what is
is going on.
This is not our usual intro,but you know, like this all kind
of started because I made alittle comment on my review of
one of his movies and here weare.
Here we are, I'm leading theway we are going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Things happen fast on Letterboxd yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
So, yeah, we're just going to be ranking his movies.
He's got quite the filmography,but first, how are you guys
doing what's up?
How was Super Bowl weekend?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah Kendrick anyone.
I've rewatched that performanceso much you can log the
performance on theaforementioned Letterboxd
platform, which is really fun.
I've enjoyed reading thecomments on there.
And Letterboxd platform, whichis really fun.
I've enjoyed reading thecomments on there.
Probably the highlight of theafternoon was the Kendrick
performance.
I mean, I like the Eagles justas much as any other

(01:55):
non-Philadelphia sports fan, Isuppose, but I think we all
really took a lot of enjoymentout of watching the Chiefs lose,
and so I watched all fourquarters and every second of the
game, which of course, thenmeans I was.
I was seated for most, most ofthe commercials and
traditionally, um, that means Iwould have seen a lot of cool

(02:16):
and new, exciting movie movietrailers.
However, when we have ourlittle group chat going, it
seemed like a lot of thetrailers were just and we have
our little group chat going, itseemed like a lot of the
trailers were just likeadvertisements, more like
teasers for you than having todo the work on your own to go
watch.
The full-length trailer whichwas announced to us would be

(02:37):
available online the next day,or is now available online,
that's what they do now.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
They do teasers to trailers.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Te's what they do now , they do teasers to trailers.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
It's ridiculous Teasers to teasers.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
As far as maybe not spoiling a film by showing any
big reveals in the trailer.
I like that approach to it.
Probably the most cinematicmoment of the afternoon was Tom
Cruise introducing the SuperBowl, which also, you know, also
stirred up some discussion inour group chat, because I think

(03:07):
Tom Cruise famously a reallyathletic non like like an
athletic non athlete, if thatmakes sense, you know, like you
see him in War of the Worldsplaying, having a catch with his
son at the beginning, and itlooks like it's the first time
he's ever seen a baseball.
Groves playing, having a catchwith his son at the beginning,
and it looks like it's the firsttime he's ever seen a baseball.

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However, of course, he's veryphysically gifted in what he can
do on screen and in thesedifferent roles.
So just an odd choice and tokind of pair this I don't know
whatever the theme of the finalreckoning is going to be with
preparation for the Super Bowl.
I don't know, it felt forced,it felt like Tom Cruise probably
could care less about the SuperBowl, but he's here for the

(03:48):
advancement of the MissionImpossible series and for the
betterment of cinema and so Iappreciate his commitment to the
bit.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Well, I'm a little concerned about Tom Cruise being
in some undisclosed room withthat many screens surrounding
him.
I didn't see this live, butgoing back and re-watching it
also, some some sort of like cgismoothing on his face he looked
very young.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yes, he looked.
Uh, he looked odd, looked veryodd it did not look like the tom
cruise who welcomed us back tothe theaters prior to Top Gun
Maverick screenings, Right,Because I can remember in those
moments everyone was like, wow,this lighting and these 4K
cameras and everything.
This is a little rough on youthere.

(04:38):
Tc.
He almost looked de-aged inthis little promo bit.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yes, yeah, he looked weird.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
He looked very weird.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
But also, you know, some of these big trailers that
were at least teased throughoutthe broadcast.
Man, I don't know where we'reat, but it's a deep, dark place.
We've got another jurassicworld movie coming um which I'm
not out on but like would yourather have scar joe go into

(05:12):
another 10 years of franchisemovie making or would you rather
have her go make a marriagestory?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
or under the skin.
Yeah, well, it's a.
It's obviously the like shejust got out of marvel right.
Just got out of Marvel Right.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Just got out of Marvel and now we have to go
back to the island of dinosaursto get the DNA out of an egg.
Of course, I just thought canwe just sink the island?
Can we just get rid of theisland?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Have we learned?
Dinosaurs and humans should notbe on the same planet.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
They have to get off that corner.
I I was having thisconversation with a with a peer
today and like we gotta get, wegotta get dinosaurs back from
the jurassic world brand well, Ithink we've talked about that
well yeah, but look what happenswhen we try to do it.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
it's adam driver and it's the film 65 and no one goes
out to see it because dinosaurshave already been monopolized
by Jurassic, by the Jurassic IP,and so no one else wants to
touch it.
We've talked about this beforewith with the Pirates of the
Caribbean movies.
We're never going to getanother high quality Pirates

(06:20):
film unless we just return tothat universe, because no one's
going to want to try to do itbetter than what gore verbinski
did with with the first coupleof pirates films.
Um, so so it is really tough.
I mean, we see this way.
Yeah, it just sucks right,because, as as human beings, I
hear somebody, um, like benaffleck, say I want to be bat

(06:42):
Batman because my kids loveBatman and I'm like cool, cool
and so, like, go and do yourthing If, like, if and it's so
funny, cause I just I think Imentioned this when At least
that version of Batman wastrying something completely
different.
That's true.
I was thinking about thisbecause, um, during the trailer,
because I was like, did didn'tI just see Scarlett Johansson in
something really really odd,something really really weird,

(07:03):
and it's the third Home Alonemovie where she plays the older
sister who's kind of the brattysister, and so it gets me
thinking like she's a child ofthe 90s.
She probably grew up watchingJurassic Park, so like the same
sort of IP that I would be likeif there was maybe another Home
Alone movie ever, like I couldsee Scarlett Johansson wanting

(07:26):
to be the mom in that movie andwe're just kind of like and
don't like what.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Give us another movie , like under the skin or
something, but I don't know Idon't know, uh, and then also
fantastic four, which is, youknow, supposed to resurrect
marvel.
I that I think I missed thisone looks it looks straight up
like a TV show and I just don'tunderstand.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's failed twice, why are we trying a third time?

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I just don't understand why these big budget
movies have the.
I mean, I do understand.
I do understand why they havethe worst looking.
Look to them.
Because they are flat andbecause we are over lighting
everything, because everythingis on in a digital world.
Now we can't go into a room andshoot in the real life anymore.

(08:15):
There's got to be a fuckinggreen screen or a fucking the.
What's the fucking screen theyuse in the background?
Now the, the void or whateverit's called it is?

Speaker 2 (08:27):
it's bad's, really, really bad well, to quote jonah
hill and super bad.
I'm sorry the coen brothersdon't direct the porno that I
watch, but they're a little bitbusy like the pornos are better.
The pornos have become better if, if you want terrence malick to
make a marvel movie, like Ijust don't think it's in the
cards and we don don't, andthat's that right.
There would be worse if PTA orone of these auteurs who are

(08:50):
still working and releasing highquality stuff, if one of them
decided I'm going to go and makea Marvel movie and spend like
this is kind of what we'regetting with Denny and now the
Dune movies are so good.
But like I think we'vementioned this on the show
before as well Like at leastwhat Denny can do by going into

(09:13):
an IP is take these actors whowere really interested and like
no one's mad at Lea Seydoux orTimothee Chalamet or Zendaya for
dipping their toes into this IPbecause of the prestige level
that he can bring to it.
He can bring to it.
But like I'm more mad atsomething like the thunderbolts
taking florence pew away from us, as I am to whatever filmmaker
is is behind the camera.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
That trailer, too, just looked like concrete.
It just it's just so much gray.
What is wrong?
I don't, I just don'tunderstand, uh, why we have.
We have gone this way and youknow, and if there was like
motion smoothing or whateverdone to to smooth out tom
cruise's face, I it's time tolook at the cameras and blame

(09:56):
the cameras, because if, if, 4kand if we're gonna keep going k
tvs already.
Yeah, yeah, if we keep going upand up in k's like things are
just it gets so it's gonna getso crystal clear that it's it's
like hyper real it's.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's not what we actually see with the naked eye
yeah, we can't.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
It can't happen.
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
I agree, yeah I experienced this a little bit in
in the how to train your Dragonlive action trailer.
Because I am on record.
Go look at my letterboxes fromyears ago.
I love the how to Train aDragon series and Toothless
looks awesome.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, he looks exactly the same.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
He looks exactly the same, which is so great.
Dreamworks great animationstudio and DreamWorks we trust.
Which is so great.
Dreamworks, great animationstudio and dreamworks we trust.
However, I'm like, will thatdoes?
Will this marriage work for me,with live action and now the
computer generated images,because then that's where one of
those two can look out of place, because what we've already
seen is a fully animated versionof this.

(11:00):
Will the real life stuff lookout of place or will toothless,
even though the trailers lookedgreat?
Um, you know, it's basicallyjust like we're gonna get, like
a game of thrones for for kidsyeah, you know um and and so I'm
I'm optimistic for some of thestuff that I saw, some of the
stuff.
I know I missed um after because, like I pulled up an article

(11:22):
like movie trailers, I was like,oh, I don't remember seeing
like lilo and stitch and I hadkids at school talking about
lilo and stitch because they'veloved lilo and stitch, that that
um franchise has continued onwith television and through, you
know, disney plus revivals ofjust being able to pop on the
first and the second film thatwe kind of grew up with.
So I know there's stuff outthere that um probably saw a
huge bump in inactivity becauseof the super bowl.

(11:45):
But I mean, like I can'tremember and not that something
like a new paul thomas andersonmovie would have a super bowl
spot necessarily.
But I can't, I don't think Iwalked away from the commercials
last sunday any more excited,even for mission impossible,
than I was going into the game Imean mission impossible looked
cool though, and now see asidefrom some spots that were like

(12:09):
Yellow and red planes reallyintercut with what Tom was
talking about.
I don't think I saw that spoteither during the game.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, the spot looks pretty nice.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I missed all of this.
I actually didn't watch theSuper Bowl.
I only really watched it forthe halftime show, you know, and
I was there for Kendrick andboy.
Was that just quite thepowerhouse?
So I need to go and watch someof these trailers now, because I
haven't seen them.
I've been like, really avoidingtrailers recently.
But I am curious about MissionImpossible.

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Ok, I was speaking of airplanesand stuff um so flight risk is
kind of why we're here um doingthis episode.
It's the newest mark walbergmovie.
Um you know it's it's notgetting great reviews.
It's actually a mel gibsonmovie.
I had no idea that he directedthis, but um first time he's

(13:04):
directed a feature film?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
in what 10 years?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
yeah, is that how?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
long it's been.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think it's since apocalypto I think it was his
last one.
Wow, really, there's no way.
That's correct no no, I thinkhe self-directed him and he he
self-directed himself in like acop revenge movie I feel, like
yeah, in fact, check this yeah,so he directed this.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's um looking like it opened at about 34 million
worldwide.
Um, I don't really know.
You guys know box officenumbers so much better than I do
like if that's good or bad, andI'm not an opening weekend of
34 million in the middle offebruary.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
It is that's good or bad, I'm not really sure.
An opening weekend of 34million in the middle of
February is not that bad.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
It was number one at the box office this past weekend
, but I'm like, well, is thatreally saying a whole lot?
There's not a whole lot thatcame out but, regardless.
Yeah, so none of us got a chanceto see it, but I am kind of
curious after reading a littlebit.
But the trailer does givecurious after reading a little
bit.
But the trailer does give youquite a bit of spoilers.
But basically Mark Wahlbergplays a pilot who is actually a

(14:15):
hired hitman, but they don'tknow that.
But we do in the trailer Love,if they would have kept that a
secret, maybe.
But he's transporting a US airmarshal and this accountant that
the air marshal has arrestedand there sounds like they're
flying out of Alaska and allshit, all hell breaks loose from

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there.
That's pretty much the moviebut, like I said, it's not
getting the greatest reviews butsounds like it was, you know,
somewhat successful.
But it was a good excuse to dothis episode because, while
maybe some of his newest movieshaven't been the greatest, he
does have quite a few heavyhitters over the years and he's

(15:00):
got a really impressive um filmlots of movies and on that fact
check about hacksaw rage hacksawrage was the last movie he
directed in 2016 years ago 2016and then and and that was a
10-year hiatus from apocalyptoin 2006.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
But mark walberg, the I one of the like gods of
garbage, I would say uh, in,especially in recent years.
Um walberg is is such aninteresting person to go through
and like look at hisfilmography because it is vast,

(15:43):
yeah uh, and there are somereally high highs, there are
some incredible lows and there'snot really like a there's like
no consistency.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I feel like Well, you're looking at the project.
It's really interesting becausewe just talked about the and I
never had really made thisconnection either until starting
to go through his filmographyand look at what this exercise
is gonna, you know, potentiallyplay out like.
And and I thought to myself,are Tom Cruise and Mark Wahlberg
similar in the way that theircareers have kind of gone?

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Now Mark Wahlberg doesn't havea mission impossible.
That has carried him throughthe 21st century.
He has just um found theability, however, to dip his
toes into a very similar genreof like kind of garbage, crime,
espionage, thriller, sort oflike special ops, trash and and

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make that stuff work, while alsoproducing a lot of tv, staying
active, always kind of beinglike in the public eye.
But when you look at his 90sand some of the filmmakers he
was working with, very similarto what Tom Cruise was doing
kind of in the first half of hiscareer.
And you know, wahlberg stillhas some, some real highs in the

(17:00):
21st century and we'll get tothose, of course, during the
Hall of Fame.
But I had never really thoughtto myself.
And they're about the same age,you know.
Uh, walbert's like 53, I thinktom's just a little bit older
than that.
But you know, in terms of likekind of a comparison, I don't,
he's much closer to a tom cruisethan he is, say, maybe like a
ben affleck or a matt damon orsome of these other

(17:21):
bossantonians.
Yeah, who, who?
Um, you know he might get sortof like I don't want to say
lumped into, but you know, kindof like, considered his
contemporaries.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, he definitely.
I actually saw somebody comparehim to Tom Cruise when I was
just doing all my research andstuff.
And yeah, he like what you saidabout Mission Impossible, if,
like Tom has that franchise togo like really carry him like
you said, mark has these likeyou can pretty much always count

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on him to do some kind of likefirst responder role, military
role, like, like I said in myintro, like he is like our
favorite man in uniform, youknow.
I mean he really wears all thedifferent kinds um and I think
he does well at those roles.
I like him on that um.
But I wanted to ask you guys if, like, you remembered the first

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movie that you ever saw him inand like where it all, like what
you remember like from, if yousaw, him, like at like watched
any of his movies when you wereyounger, or if you kind of came
to him later in life.
Do you remember at all?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
for me that it has to probably be a perfect storm, um
, or is it the perfect storm?
Yeah, the perfect storm, um,because that's a movie that I
know I saw as soon as it came tovideo and just kind of looking
at what he had made prior tothat.
I mean, I know I watched likeBoogie Nights in middle school
and you know, then I HeartHuckabees wasn't too far behind

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that and then kind of comingback to some of the stuff that
he did in the 90s, along withsomething like you know, boogie
Nights or whatever BasketballDiaries movies that we'll get to
.
But for me it's probably theperfect storm and so, kind of
coming to him, it's still thisreally exciting time in his
career where he is more of asupporting role in some of his

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films but who almost steals theshow.
I would say there's quite a fewoccurrences of that happening.
But then also, as somebody whogrew up watching a lot of sports
and was coming of age at thetime when the celtics were
becoming relevant again and whenthe boston red sox were making
um a push at the world series tobreak their curse, I can always

(19:34):
remember seeing mark walberg atlike you know he's sitting
courtside and the cameras wouldgo to him at a basketball game
or something.
Um, entourage comes out therein the mid-2000s and and knowing
that, that's kind of the that'sthe mark walberg story being
told on screen, and so I thinkthat while I I can, I can

(19:55):
pinpoint the movie, I feel likewhen I really started to
understand like mark walberg theperson was when it kind of all
clicked for me yeah yeah, Ithink.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I think my first interaction with walbert
probably was planet of the apes.
Okay, in 2001, as captain leodavidson yeah which might be one
of his dumber characters he'sever played um, but also I I
don't know.
I mean looking at this list,the italian job uh was was one

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that was played a lot, uh, in myhouse.
Growing up I remember gettinggifted invincible like as a kid,
like right when I startedplaying football myself.
I think an aunt or an unclethought it would be, you know,
know smart to give me Invinciblebecause I was into football.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
That's a Disney marketing, just grade A.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Totally.
Rockstar was always a moviethat was like on cable and you
would catch like moments of andkind of get sucked in by some of
those musical performances.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I can't wait to talk about.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Rockstar later.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I think Rockstar opens up the door for a whole
new category, um a film that wecan maybe do on a future episode
but uh, but yeah, I think notuntil, like the departed shooter
, we own the night.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
You know, kind of 2006 to 2007, that run is kind
of when I really started to likekey in and be like, and that's
when he's a leading man.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, mark.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Wahlberg is a is a movie star yeah, right cool what
about you, erica?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I?
I had to think about thismyself because I have a very
vivid memory of being at afriend's house when I was little
and her older brother iswatching Planet of the Apes in
the basement and we watched it alittle bit but I don't know if
I even like really put ittogether that like who Mark
Wahlberg was, but I think kindof similar to Alex, like the

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perfect storm.
I do remember like watchingthat as a kid.
But I think rock star was maybemy first like big one of his.
I don't know that I was reallylike thinking of him as Mark
Wahlberg.
It was more of just like that'sone of my all time favorite
movies.
Pretty infamously, I love rockstar, but yeah, like just I

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think those are my early introsto him and then like kind of
like what Max was saying, likeonce he starts to get into those
like the roles, like thedeparted shooter, all of that,
then that's when you're likeokay, we're seeing a lot more of
this guy.
He is very, very prevalent inthe two like mid-2000s, um, but

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I think we should, let's getstarted.
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
can't wait cool a lot of movies to get to, yeah yep,
we sure do.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Okay, so we're kind of how we were talking about
earlier.
Um, there he has quite the listand some of these movies.
He has a very, maybe a smallpart in it, not necessarily a
supporting role, but just mighteither like either play himself
or he might just have a reallysmall role.
We're gonna skip over thosejust because I don't really, um,

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consider that like a markwalberg movie.
Um, so I think we decided thefirst one we're gonna do is
basketball diaries yeah, this isa really important movie to
teenage alex.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Um, I think this is one of the first.
This is definitely one of thefirst Leonardo DiCaprio films
that I saw, like post-Titanic itwas like this in the beach that
that I watched.
Post-titanic obviously had towait for the beach for a couple
of years but was able to go backand watch Basketball Diaries
and so that in in mark walberg'sperformance in this film as as

(23:49):
basically leo's best friend andkind of an enabler to, you know,
leonardo dicaprio plays the um,the author and poet, jim
carroll, who, um, was like thisrising star and kind of like
prep league basketball.
And then you know, you knowthey're in New York and what
ends up happening is thatLeonardo DiCaprio especially

(24:10):
really goes down a path ofsubstance use, drinking at an
early age, all sorts of baddecisions, and Mark Wahlberg,
for the first half of this movie, is kind of right there with
him and getting into trouble andreally stirring it up, and so
it's a really, really good young, not only Leonardo DiCaprio
performance but also a reallygood Mark Wahlberg performance

(24:34):
and it leads to, I think, himreally getting noticed for
something like the movie thatcomes next in his career, and so
in that that sense I feel likeit's really important.
However, it's tough to reallysay that it's like the movie
that discovered him, becauseobviously he was the son of or,

(24:55):
excuse me, he was the youngerbrother of donnie walberg at the
time, who who actually at thebeginning of their careers
donnie being the older brotherand and and kind of a bigger
part of New Kids on the Blockwas more famous and so Mark
Wahlberg kind of had to come outfrom his big brother's shadows,
but he still had a lot ofexperience with fame because of
the boy band.
So it's not really like thismovie discovered him.

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However, I do think it'simportant.
I think we put it yellow for now, just because you watch this
movie and it's real.
I mean, the whole thing centersaround Leo, so it's impossible
Like we were doing a Leo Hall ofFame.
I would say that this almostneeds to be green because this
is like the movie along with youknow maybe what's eating
Gilbert Grape or whatever, andthat also that doesn't get
talked about as much.

(25:38):
But this is one of those fromthe 90s where and right around
like the turn of the centurykind of, but like you would
watch this movie on like adouble feature with requiem for
a dream, like something that'sreally hard to watch but really
impactful and maybe a little bitmanipulative in the way that it
kind of tells um, a, a, youknow, a story based on true

(25:58):
events, and so I don't.
I don't think it's green, Idon't think it's in the hall of
fame, but it's yellow.
It's one that I can definitelyrecommend, and one that you know
I, but I don't think it has.
I don't know if there's ablu-ray release of this film or
not, but one that I saw, the DVDof today, because it's just
moving, that stays with you, andand Mark Wahlberg is a big part
of that.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Cool, I'm good with yellow yeah yeah, I think, I
think it is a yeah, yeah, Ithink it is a.
You're right, I think it does.
This performance does get himthen his breakout, but because
of the nature of the exercise, Ido think that, you know, this

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is a film for Leo's Hall of.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Fame 100%.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
So having it yellow and then maybe, maybe it gets in
there if, if we don't findenough greens in all 60 of these
movies all right.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, yellow it is um okay.
So the next one, I would argue,is one of it's probably his,
like one of his most iconicroles.
This is really the movie thatput Mark on the on the map, and
it's the 1996 movie Fear, withhim and Reese Witherspoon.

(27:16):
I immediately think this is agreen.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I think this is an automatic green.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
I think it's an automatic green Mark or Max.
Mark Max watched this movie forthe first time and I'd love to
know it is your thoughts uh,completely.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
It is a unhinged thriller, uh, of a movie.
The roller coaster sequencealone is very exciting stuff
Watching this with Kaylee, whoapparently this is very
important to a 14 year oldKaylee.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Very exciting stuff.
You say Very exciting stuff.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
It was just a blast to watch it with her because she
was just giddy as a teenagegirl while watching it and took
her right back.
But also Mark is I'm thinkinglike and going through his
filmography.
This and Flight Risk, where weare now, are like the only two
movies he's ever played a badguy.
I mean really from here on out,and there are characters who

(28:23):
are gray.
You know, like I think the nextmovie, or or at least the next
in the next two movies that wetalk about, his character is not
a good guy, but like you arerooting for him.
In this movie he plays apsychopath.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
That is really fun to watch yeah um, extremely
problematic but a really likeimpressive performance to to do
like out of the gate yeah, thismovie, and I think the most
simple way to put is that thismovie would just not be made in
the same way today.

(28:58):
Um, however, I'm not entirelysure if that's a good thing.
I think maybe this is just itwas different times, right, and
so that the way that, you know,certain things like sexual
assault are portrayed on screenin the 90s versus in 2025, you
just you wouldn't see it donethis way anymore.
But it's, it's interesting tohear you say that like it was.

(29:21):
I think it's like a good litmustest for someone to go back and
watch a movie like this now,maybe for the first time, and if
they're, if they're reallydisturbed or really bothered by
it.
I think that that's like thefilm's intention and, and not so
much this, you know, thisinsensitive portrayal of maybe a

(29:42):
real life situation that youknow, I'm sure, a real life
situation of stalking and allsorts of different things that
that people have had to, youknow, unfortunately, experience
in real life.
But it's it's just like a andit's a Seattle movie, and so I
think it also hits a littledifferent to people in this
region, but it's it's just amovie that feels so perfectly of

(30:05):
a time that he is at the centerof along with Reese Witherspoon
and and I don't know for aBoston Tonian to come over and
do the Seattle grunge thing, andit's hilarious because he's
talking to our boy, williamPeterson from from CSI, you know
, and he plays ReeseWitherspoon's dad and he's kind

(30:26):
of giving him the older yeah,he's giving him the older, you
know, the dad to kind of likeboyfriend, talk about what your
plans are.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Oh, I'm going to go back to UW in the fall and all
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Great movie house.
You know great locations inthis movie.
Yeah, mercer island featuredpredominantly um the seattle
boardwalk, the.
The rave scene is just insane.
Like you can tell that the workwas done to capture seattle
culture, grunge culture in the90s for this film, um.
So I think it definitely has.

(31:01):
Not only in like gen x andmillennial hearts Does it have
kind of a soft spot, but butjust for people of this area,
because I think I mean, whenwe've a couple of years ago when
we did a Seattle best ofepisode, it made my list Like
this is an influential,important movie.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
It is.
I wish I could have experiencedthis movie like during the time
.
You know, I was four when Icame out so I wasn't much.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I came to this movie a lot later it was definitely a
vhs that was that was shownaround our cul-de-sac growing up
yeah, by some of the older kidsyeah, it's a fun it's a funny
one yeah, um okay but liketrigger warning for sure if
you're gonna go back to fear forthe first time, like we're
making light of it, andhopefully, if you go back and
you see it, you know why.

(31:46):
Or if you have watched it andyou find it uncomfortable at
times, you can still kind ofappreciate it for its, its
goofiness, I would say.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Sure yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
He's unreal in this movie, though it's crazy, it is
crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
And like watching it when you're like, like I said, I
did not watch this, even likeas a child, like I don't think I
had even heard of it, or likeeven when I was in middle school
or anything.
But somehow I stumbled uponsomething where it's like, oh,
you got to watch the rollercoaster scene, so I was like
what's that?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
So little did I know he gives himself a ballpoint pen
tattoo of Reese Witherspoon.
Oh yeah, unbelievable, insanescene.
A ballpoint pen tattoo of ReeseWitherspoon oh yeah,
unbelievable, insane scene.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
So metal of him so metal Just wild.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, it's Reese's Nicole Forever.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Faux Ever yes.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Faux Ever.
When that scene happened, Ipaused the movie.
I was like what did I justwatch?
What did I just watch?
What did I just watch, am?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I hallucinating.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
It is jarring to see him play this role, because it's
like, oh my God, it's crazy.
All right, well, I'm going toput that green.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yes, I think fear is green.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
OK, cool.
So next movie Traveler.
I'm not familiar with thismovie.
I didn't get around to watchingit, but 1997.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Never heard of it.
Is this a real movie?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Bill Paxton and Mark.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
A man joins a group of nomadic con artists in rural,
north Carolina.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Available on Plex.
Pluto, the Roku channel andTubi Great Could be a hidden gem
, I hope some listeners, do somework here and let us know yeah
please.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I do love Bill Paxton , but again it looks like a Bill
Paxton movie.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
And it looks like one of those movies that a young
actor makes not knowing thatperhaps their next movie is
going to launch them into thelike the upper echelon like.
Then it's going to take them tothe next level.
You see this a lot with withyoung actors.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yes, well, just getting right into it, the, the
beloved boogie nights is ournext one, the infamous dirk
digler oh yeah this, this me, isabout as green as it gets.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
I mean this, even though you know we come to Mark
Wahlberg in different moviesthrough, you know, when we were
kids.
But like going back, this islike.
This is why.
This is why he was in thosemovies.
It was this performance in thisfilm at this time Just

(34:27):
incredible stuff.
The fact that he had only doneyou know what maybe three major
motion pictures and was cast asthe lead centerpiece in this
film Unbelievable, and he'sreally good at it.
Yeah, he goes really reallygood.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
He goes, and I mean, it's a lot of actors who we have
long-standing relationshipswith now.
Um, you know, I I think of,like john c riley and philip
seymour hoffman, some of theseother actors who we were
starting to see more and more ofat the time.
He's holding the same space asthem and and those scenes are
all great.
But he's also going toe-to-toewith some veterans philip baker

(35:06):
hall freaking, burt reynolds, ofcourse, you know, like julianne
moore there's he and he's rightthere with them.
As, as far as like screenpresence and throughout this
entire movie, which is, you know, it's one of pta's best.
I think that if we were doing,if if we had reduced this to a
mark walberg, mount, rushmoreand we were only picking four

(35:27):
films, it would still be like anautomatic entry.
I feel like so Absolutely Cool.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, the next few, so the next one we have is the
big hit.
Have either one of you seenthis movie?

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Had not.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
No, ok Me neither, so it's out.
I have not.
Okay Me neither, so I'm goingto put that out.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
So it's, out.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I guess so yeah.
And then the Corruptor.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
This I have heard of, have never seen it.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, I have not.
I have heard of it but alsohave never seen it.
What about you, max?
I have not gotten around tothis one yet, okay, um, and I
feel like you know these moviesthat were like oh, I haven't
I've heard of it.
Another james foley film, thoughsame director as fear the
corruptor okay, okay, um, yeah,like a lot of these movies like

(36:20):
I feel like I've heard of I justhave, like they're a little bit
.
I mean I was obviously wasalive.
It's just like before I'm I'mcoming to mark um.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Next one is three kings now, this is interesting
because, three kings, his firstcollaboration with david o
russell, which is verysignificant and he's really good
in this movie, and this is alsoa pretty successful movie that
starts Ice Cube, mark Wahlbergand George Clooney, and now it's

(36:50):
primarily a George Clooneyvehicle.
However, those three men areall part of kind of the same
mission and so this is a.
You know, david O Russell issuch a complicated figure and
it's really interesting to kindof look at his filmography,
because I think it is it's twodifferent versions of things

(37:13):
that are either successful andwork, or that should work and
are not successful.
And this is one of those DavidO Russell movies that I think is
pretty good.
Now it gets away from beingthis kind of war story treasure
hunting film and almost becomesmore about these three men and
the relationship that they startto have with these people who

(37:36):
they're meeting along the way asas they're going after this
gold, and so it's it's aninteresting movie.
There's a lot of personality inthis film, like George Clooney,
very charismatic in the film,mark Wahlberg, very charismatic
in the film, along with Ice Cube.
So I think this one deserves toat least be yellow, because I

(37:58):
do think that it's kind of likean underrated, underseen film.
I have it right next to youover there, max, on the shelf.
Like I really like Three Kings.
It's a underrated, underseenfilm.
I have it right next to youover there, max, on the shelf.
Like I, I really like threekings.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
It's a good movie yeah, I'm, I think, yellow.
After that explanation makessense.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Um, I'm very intrigued by that cast well,
yeah, and also, you know, davidor russell, putting him next to
someone like george cluny, who,at this time, is a mega star at
least becoming a mega movie starAgain, just kind of shows, you
know, if PTA is able to cast himin the lead role.

(38:33):
And then David O Russell.
It just kind of shows like thisthere's a lot the recognition
of real talent.
Right, right.
So yeah, I think yellow is good, good place for this right now
all right um.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
The next one is the yards never, never heard of it
so I I am unfamiliar with thisfilm, but I think it has a
pretty decent reputation.
It's a james gray film and andit's one I wish I would have
gotten to for this conversation,um but but just one that I
don't really know that muchabout, but like it's got a

(39:07):
stacked cast and and it's it'swell regarded, and so I I feel a
little bit incomplete, notbeing able to talk about the
yards yeah, I I'm looking atthat cast and looks like we have
joaquin phoenix, charlie theron, james khan um faye dunaway
yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
So ellen bernstein, if it has a good reputation.
I mean, I wish we could chatabout it a little bit more, but
I'm happy to put it at yellow.
What do you?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
think put it yellow for the yards heads out there.
But it ultimately would besilly for us to induct a film
that yeah, true none of us haveseen, and that's on us.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Alright well, the next one is a crowd favorite.
It's the Perfect Storm, bobby.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Where's my Bobby?
I fucking love this movie.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Bobby.
I bought some curtains, I hungthem up, I brought some house
plants oh my gosh, diane lane.
So this is in because of dianelane.
Um no, I mean he's once againpaired with george clooney in
this film and and also stealsome scenes from him.

(40:22):
I mean he is great in thismovie and he plays while george
clooney plays the lead in it.
He is kind of the straight manI would say.
Mark walberg's character, bobbyis, is kind of the audience
avatar, yeah, who, who we areexperiencing the film through,
because he's the one that doeshave the girlfriend, the, the

(40:44):
wife, you know, the partnerwaiting for him back on shore.
He is the one that we'resupposed to be emotionally
connected to.
I mean, the entire crew, right,we're we're supposed to care
about, but he's really the onethat that, uh, wolfgang Peterson
, and and you know the way thatthis, the script is constructed
he's the one that, when you knowthe fate of the, the Andrea

(41:08):
Gale, that's right, I was like,I know I can pull this off the
top of my head.
When, when the fate of theAndrea Gale is revealed, it's
really like the Bobby characterwho you're like gosh, that guy
had everything.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
When I told him everything ahead of him,
including Diane Lane and thecurtains.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
When I told my mom we were doing this episode, she
was like oh, the Perfect Storm.
I remember that movie, I lovedthat one.
I was like I feel like this isa very noteworthy movie to
mention.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
It is, it is, it is like another real big touchstone
think for, for walberg inparticular, because, again, as
alex just said, uh, he is, he isour way into this this world of
deep sea, fishing out on thesetreacherous waters, um, but

(42:01):
again, I I do think there issome.
Although he steals scenes, I dothink this is a George Clooney
vehicle, yeah Right, um, even.
And it's hard too, because Ifeel like, especially during
this time of movies, like you goback and watch these it's just

(42:23):
so stacked, oh yeah, it's juststacked, oh yeah, it's just.
The casts are so gigantic and,and you know, because, like once
again, you have john c riley,you have william finkner yeah,
you've got.
Uh, what is it?
Is it?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
uh, not clifting john hawkins john hawks, john hawks,
john Hawks.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Mary Elizabeth from.
Scarface and Abyss.
So yeah, karen Allen is in this.
It's really tough.
I think it's yellow.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
I think so too and I think kind of like.
Like what you're saying aboutit is a George Clooney movie.
He is the leading man, so likethere's so many movies.
Just looking at my list rightnow, I mean he we're not even
really into the like the leadingman the leading man era.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
You know, I think this I think we put it yellow,
yeah, and when it comes time tocircle back, just we kind of
remembering that like this is.
I'll just say this as as weleave it alone here for a minute
, this is yellow in a way that afilm like Basketball Diaries is
not yellow where this is.
You know this.
He has much more to dothroughout the entire run time

(43:36):
of this film and it's tied tothe emotional, the emotional
investment that us, as audiencemembers, are supposed to have
with the story.
Um, as he is opposed tosomething like basketball
diaries right and 2000.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
So that's in 2000, because now we enter 2001 and
and I mean this is like andmovie studios are like, okay,
they're, put him on the poster.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
He's the.
He's a name above the titlethis is when it starts.
Yes, yeah, because ofeverything he just cashed yeah,
buckle up, um all right.
Well, planet of the apes isnext I I'm gonna let, I'm just
gonna clear out for you guys, um, at the top of the key for this
, because it's this has neverbeen.

(44:22):
I mean, I've seen the film butthis has never been like an
important movie to me neither meneither I'm not really into
planet of the apes, I just.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I mean, I feel like who doesn't know what planet of
the apes is, but it's been solike I don't know ape lincoln,
you're not into ape, lincoln, uhno, uh, this is like seeing
animals get hurt.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
This is completely red, I and you know,
unfortunately we, we talkedabout this movie at length on
our lost tim burton uh show theoh yeah just one of the best
like examples of of uh hair andmakeup.
You know, practically uh in inthe the final days of that um.

(45:07):
But mark walberg is probablythe worst part of this movie.
He is actually reallyhorrendous, uh as captain leo
davidson um.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
So yeah, no, this is a red maybe a little too early
in his career to get the maxcontract deal.
I think so.
It's like if Draymond wouldhave gone to the Bulls or
something on a max deal.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Can't do it, yeah can't do it All right.
Well, it's going red, but thenext one, I will really argue
for it.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I did not know, this was one of your favorite movies
of all time.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I did not know this was one of your favorite movies
of all time.
Yeah, it is, and I'm so happythat this is being revealed on
the show here for your belovedMark Chris Izzy Cole in this
film, just incredible namesKrizzy, oh, krizzy.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Krizzy Well, no, I mean she just calls him that at
one point.
Yeah, I love this movie and Ithink I have like an emotional
attachment to it just because oflike how I was introduced to it
.
I had, um, like young loveintroduced this to me, um, and
it really like this.
This friend of mine was, youknow, he.

(46:20):
He really put me onto like alot of like my music tastes that
I still have now, and Iremember he showed me this movie
when we were hanging out and Ijust was obsessed and I just
don't know that I really put ittogether that that was Mark,
like who Mark Wahlberg was, butyou know, I knew who Jennifer
Aniston was.
But this movie has so muchheart and I always tell people

(46:43):
about it and so when we weretalking about this last week, I
was really pleased to hear thatyou both were like Rockstar is
great, like it's, it's not.
It doesn't have a lot of fans.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
You know, here's what Rockstar is OK, rockstar, and
we're going to really start toget into the garbage subgenres
of the different, um you know,kind of profiles that can fit a
mark walberg movie he does thisa few times garbage, prestige
where this movie thinks thatit's, like, almost famous, or

(47:17):
this movie thinks that it'sgonna win like, or be nominated
for some oscars in.
In hindsight, and probably inreality at the time, like, this
never stood a chance.
Like this movie never stood achance, but it is perfect for
being, like, reclaimed as amovie with, like what Erica just
said, with a lot of heart,that's, that's trying pretty

(47:39):
earnestly to to accomplish itsmission.
Um, I mean, you can like laughat his hairpiece in it, you can
do a bunch of different things,but like this movie is very
sentimental.
It's garbage, prestige.
Yeah, and it's also reallyinteresting because we live in a
world now where and Erica, justto be clear, anything that we
label as garbage, that's a termof endearment.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yes, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
I don't disagree.
We live in a time now where amovie like this just doesn't get
made, because all they make noware like biopics music, yeah,
music biopics.
So the fact that this is a likea, a made up yeah, music biopic
is actually something that'sreally special about it and and

(48:28):
you know it's it's a really funmovie.
While you're watching it, uh,the music is actually all right,
it's pretty steel dragon rips.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah, I used to have all of those songs saved on my
iCloud or like my I'm guessingit's actually mark singing too,
right?
I was just actually trying tofact check that because I I feel
like it is, but I can'tremember, remember, but the

(49:04):
there's like the actual band isnot called Steel Dragon, they're
called something else thatsings all the songs.
I can't remember, but I feellike it is him singing.
You'll have to let me know.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
I think that unless you really want to fight for it
as being green right now, Ithink we put this at yellow and
then well, but unless you reallywant to go green, but I think
we put it yellow for now.
For now, and then, like this isyour episode, if we have, I
mean if there's room to do onefor Erica.
You got this in like at the endof this all.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
That's fair, Okay, and unfortunately no.
Mark Wahlberg does not sing inthe 2001 movie Rockstar Mike
Majevic, the lead singer of theband Steelheart.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Steelheart, that's right.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Provided the majority of the vocals for Wahlberg's
character.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Chris Izzy.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Cole.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Chris Izzy.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Cole.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Chris Izzy Cole.
Chris Izzy Cole, if you haven'tseen Rockstar, just go watch it
, and it's corny as fuck at sometimes, but it is really fun to
watch and it's got a beautifulJennifer Aniston if you're into
her, so alright.
Moving on, was I don't think Iincluded, oh wait, no, we should

(50:24):
.
It's's the Truth About Charlie.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
We should definitely bring this up, at the very least
.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
I've never seen this movie, neither have I.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
This is a Hollywood video classic for me, and this
is important because it's hisfirst adventure into garbage
espionage, garbage espionage andand some of that like spy
thriller stuff that we would seehim do many more times in the

(50:52):
future.
Um, it's not a particularlygreat film.
Tandy tandy newton is reallycool in this movie.
Um, the only other time that Ihad seen her was in mission
impossible 2, when this filmcame out, and so I remember this
movie.
They don't really have like anychemistry in this film they're
supposed to, and so this is animportant movie because it's the
first when you look at, maybeaside from something like Three

(51:14):
Kings, because that's likemilitary special ops type of
stuff, but as far as like himbeing a leading man in one of
these sort of like actionthriller kind of funistic uh
movies, this is this, you couldsay, is his first time doing
that, and so I think it's red,like I know it's red, but but

(51:35):
just important to, I think, justtouch on real quick okay, um
especially because of what comesright after.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yeah Well, this is a movie that I've never seen,
actually, Um, I've never seenthe Italian job.
Surprisingly, really.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
No, the Italian job is like one of the better
remakes, I think.
Uh around, uh again, acompletely stacked cast.
Uh, wahlberg is at the centerof it and he's going toe-to-toe
with Edward Norton who, at thistime again, is like, considered
like one of the greatest actorsof his generation and it is one

(52:17):
of the most like, fun, excitingpg-13 caper movies.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
I think that has been around in the in the 21st
century yeah, that's maybe Imean like really high approval
rating, right when when you showthis movie to somebody, no
one's gonna expect it to beanything more, anything less
than what it is and you leave itjust really satisfied.
I do agree that it is.
This is the kind of movie thatneeds to be remade more often.

(52:44):
You know, like we don't needquit trying to remake rosemary's
baby or chinatown or some ofthese all-time classic films
like go back, find somethingthat worked and that was
successful, like the firstitalian job was, but with modern
technologies and like the minicoopers in this movie.
Compared to the original, it'sso cool because like the mini

(53:05):
cooper had just kind of comeback beat, it was just
re-released, um, and in terms oflike 21st century, um, you know
automotive, um, I don't like methe car guy here.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Um, it was a hot car, okay, like that's funny,
because everybody was like whoamini coopers when I brought this
movie up to one of my friends,she was like oh my gosh, that
was the movie that made me wantto get a Mini Cooper, really bad
, exactly Like this.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
this was like a monoculture kind of moment, like
I think that because of productplacement, because of Mark
Wahlberg's presence, charlizeTheron's presence in a film like
this, it was a huge, huge dealin a film like this.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
It was a huge, huge deal, also again working with
such a cool director and anauteur in F Gary Gray, who, of
course, did the Friday movies.
Yeah, this to me, I feel thisis green, because I think it
also is like the definition of arewatchable, like it is

(54:06):
something that you can return toI mean just kind of looking at
it, how we've how we've kind ofbroken down his career up until
this point.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
This, I think we could say, is the first time
that he was successful as aleading man in a film.
He is going toe-to-toe withNorton, but it is still a Mark
Wahlberg movie.
So with that in mind, I thinkit does make sense to put it
green.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I do too.
I mean I haven't seen it, but II know of it.
I mean I know how likesuccessful this was.
I remember like that.
I think I was in middle schoolwhen this came out.
I do remember this being likeall over the place, so I'm happy
to put it at green.
Um well, moving on to I heart,huckabees is our next one alex

(54:53):
you so I heard huckabees.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
I'm 14 when this movie comes out.
I remember seeing it that yearand thinking that I had life
figured out.
There is an incredible LilyTomlin scene where she's talking
to Jason Schwartzman in thisfilm about this blanket theory
and then Dustin Hoffman steps inand after just hearing that the
blanket theory makes so muchsense, he throws this other

(55:20):
philosophical idea at you thatif you can imagine an experience
over here in this reality, thenyou have also lived it in this
reality.
And so if you can think thatyou are a millionaire, then
guess what you already are like.
It is just the most like simpledorm room philosophy 101

(55:44):
bullshit pumped into a david orussell movie executed really
well by really talented actors.
Like this movie is so stackedif you run through the cast and
while it is a jason schwartzmanfilm, mark walberg plays his
sidekick.
He's a firefighter who he meetsin counseling and who decides

(56:04):
that like he just needs to go onthis adventure with Jason
Schwartzman for the rest of thefilm and they go through all
sorts of funny little set pieces, little vignettes.
He's wearing his blackfirefighter boots, his black
fireman boots the entire timeand it is ridiculous and it is
outrageous and it is so funnyand I still stand by this movie.

(56:25):
Jubelaw is amazing in thismovie.
Naomi watts is really good.
In this movie a young jonahhill shows up like this.
I heard huckabees was such animportant movie to me growing up
and so I love it for that.
I don't think that we can.
I, if this is a personal listfor me, and if I had 10 Mark
Wahlberg movies that I couldwatch for the rest of my life, I

(56:47):
would put this one in based onthe film's merits and and how
solid of a feature film Ibelieve that it is and I think
Does it necessarily showcase histalents, his best talents?
That's another question,Because I think it shows a
different side of him.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
It's his first comedy .
It's the first time he dipsinto comedy.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Yes, that is true, that is true, insubstantial.
So I don't know, I think weleave it yellow.
And I'm telling you that Iheard Huckabees, one of the
better films from that decade,um, and now it's been a while
since I've seen it, so I'm notsure exactly how.

(57:28):
You know, endearing the, thepsych 101, philosophy 101,
meditation 101, um, kind oflanguage of it now now would sit
in this age of, you know, hyperfocus on, on counseling and and
on therapy and how everyoneneeds to.

(57:49):
You know, know these terms andand know the language, and so it
might hit a little differentnow, but I'm telling you, in
2004, this was way ahead of itstime and I just anybody who was
involved in this movie, I'm justlike you've got to be cool, you
know kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Cool, All right.
Well, our next one fourbrothers.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Bobby Mercer.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Another Bobby.
What are you thinking?

Speaker 2 (58:14):
I mean, to me this is green.
You got to talk me out of thisbeing green.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
This is.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Now I'm'm like just full transparency.
I am 100 bias on this, beinggreen, and max is too, yeah, and
so we're in a really tough spotright now.
But but again, I think we canobjectively make the case,
because he's working with anexciting auteur and john
singleton.
This is a gritty crime thrillerthat is actually really well

(58:46):
structured and has a heart to it.
It's an exciting and diverseensemble cast where, like andre,
benjamin that he leads, butlike tyrese gibson, andre
Benjamin, terrence Howard, likea lot of really cool people are
in this movie.
Chelete Ovefor is kind of likethe big bad in this movie and he

(59:11):
is amazing in the film EllenBurstyn.
I don't know if it's an EllenBurstyn or like an Ellen Burstyn
doppelganger, but no, it sayswho is it.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Who plays their mother fiona.
Okay, she looks a whole lotlike ellen um, I digress.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Mark walberg is so good in this movie.
This movie belongs in the markwalberg hall of fame for the the
rec league basketball scenealone, when he storms the court
mid pickup game.
No, it's a high schoolbasketball game.
Is it a high school game?

(59:48):
yeah, there's a crowd there's acrowd, but I almost feel like
it's like a g league drew leaguesituation there in detroit.
He grabs the ball, dribbles itbetween his legs a few times,
says who's got the rock now?
I got the rock now.
And then when someone tries toconfront him, he punches him in
the face, pulls out his gun andasks if he knows who was at the

(01:00:10):
convenience store the night thathis adopted mother was shot and
murdered.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Five stars no no, unbelievable, unbelievable stuff
.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
And just great stuff.
Um, garrett headland is in thismovie and he plays such mark
walberg plays such a good olderbrother to garrett headland.
In this movie which is, I mean,a lot of the films like heart
kind of hinges on therelationship I mean it's in the
title, right between theseBetween these four brothers, and

(01:00:40):
when they experience certainthings in this movie you really
feel for them.
I again like I don't know.
I don't know, man, what are wedoing here?
Four brothers isn't in the MarkWahlberg Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
It's green for me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I feel like a poser.
I mean, I've seen this.
I know I've watched this a longtime ago.
This was the one movie that Ireally wanted to rewatch this
past week.
That I just didn't get aroundto doing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
But I'm happy to put it at green because it and just
because something's green nowdoesn't mean it stays till the
end, right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
That's fair, but I'll give it to you guys.
The next one is like we're just, we're not, and I say I feel
like a poser.
I'm like we're not into myMarky Mark era yet.
You know, we're not.
Like these aren't the moviesthat like really turned me on to
like being a fan of him yet.

(01:01:34):
But I'm not opposed torevisiting them.
So the next one Invincible, butI'm not opposed to revisiting
them.
So the next one, invincible.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
The interesting thing about something like Invincible
and the next couple of moviesthat are about to come out is
not only the cadence in whichhe's working at, but it seems
like there is a big budget moviethat I can remember.
I mean we're like coming of ageat this time.
Right, we're getting into theback half of the aughts there in

(01:02:00):
the 2000, in the 2000s decade,and I remember every single one
of these movies opening at themovie theater, big like there's
a big marketing campaign behindall these movies, and invincible
was a film that, again, I feellike everybody saw.
Does that mean he's good in itand does that mean that it's a
quality film and that it belongsin something like a hall of
fame?

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
I don't know, but this is a huge movie
congratulations to the eaglesand to the fans of the eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
This movie is red okay, I love the conviction.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
I love the conviction you won the super bowl this
past sunday.
That is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
This celebrates your team you no longer have to hold
open tryouts for walk-ons.
You no longer have to hirepeople like Vince Papel.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
No, no, this is a threat.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
You have Cooper DeGene as your white corner now.
You don't need Mark WahlbergDone.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
The Departed is next.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
I mean, I've been on record how many times about my
feelings for the departed, so Iwill again kind of take a back
seat here the hard thing aboutthe departed, and I I feel like
I go back and forth on thismovie every year, um, where I
think like it's it's one ofscorsese's best or it's like
this is just extremelydisappointing that this is the

(01:03:17):
movie he will be probablyremembered for, unfortunately,
because the oscars um, however,and just to clarify that in a
good way, because he wins bestdirector for this film it wins
best picture

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
um but what max is saying is that in the vast
landscape of Scorsese, ofScorsese, yeah, it's really too
bad.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
It's really too bad Because, again, another
star-studded cast.
It is not a Mark Wahlberg movie, no.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
However, he may be the best part of this Scorsese
movie, because I would argueit's a really good and layered
Leoo performance, yes, but asfar as everyone else in the
movie like, I think, jacknicholson, just like for me
again, jack nicholson for me hesomeone like jack nicholson,

(01:04:13):
alec baldwin anthony anderson,but they just ruin the movie for
me yeah they take what'shappening between leo and damon
and then all these other peoplejust ruin the movie.
For me, walberg is in it sosparingly that his scenes where
he gets to blow up yeah aregreat, yeah, and then his turn

(01:04:37):
at the end, obviously a hugepart in the film.
So again, I don't know I don'tknow either.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Uh, I I think it's.
How do you?

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
feel about the departed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yeah, erica well, I think, just in the realm of like
, even you know, as like withthe assignment at hand, you know
ranking mark walberg, hismovies.
This is not a Mark Wahlbergmovie but I do agree that he is
a really great part of the movie, like in a lot of his in the

(01:05:08):
movies that are listed.
He is a really great strongpart, but it might not
necessarily be his movie.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Personally, I don't think that it's fair to put it
on there but yeah, I feel likeif we put this in, we'd have to
put the perfect storm in, rightor three kings, or even
basketball diaries yeah you knowhe's more of a part of that,
those movies, or I heart rocketpiece too right, because that's

(01:05:34):
an ensemble piece as well.
Um, he's, he's fantastic inthis and, like you know what a
sixth man to come in and score,fucking you know, 11 points in
three minutes right but I just Idon't think it can go into the
mark walberg hall of fame Iagree.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
I agree, yep red.
Um well, shooter is the nextone bobby lee swagger another
bob bob.
I watched this last nightunbelievable right it's pretty
great.
It's pretty fucking amazingit's pretty great shooter is
awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
I wish he would walk into this fucking studio right
now and be like we got an angleup here, we got fucking these
shelves here a little tilted,unbelievable shit.
I love, love, love.
Shooter Again kind of like thisweird, like garbagey action
movie, military, you know he'sout in the woods.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
He's got the rock star wig.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
I am such a sucker for a good like military movie.
I don't know why I just likeand he does it so well, but yeah
, I.
What are we thinking like?
It's obviously at least ayellow and I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I say at least a yellow.
I'd be fine putting it greenright now okay I'm okay putting
it green.
Yeah, I am too okay, kate marais a smoke show in this one um
the next one.
We own the night what a greatmovie yeah this is like I've.

(01:07:19):
I've rewatched this movie acouple of times in the last few
years.
This is a near perfect film.
This, I think, is like prettyclose to a five star movie.
Um, and he has a huge part inthis film.
However, this is a JoaquinPhoenix movie first.
Another, james Gray, and and andI was just about to say, and I

(01:07:39):
feel like it's a james graymovie second, and then it
becomes the mark walberg, robertduvall, father, son aspect of
it trying to get you know theirother brother, robert duvall,
trying to get his other son, um,you know, back back with the
good guys, so to speak.
Um, just an incredible moviefor those who haven't seen it.

(01:08:03):
Um, really good takes placelike at the, at the turn of the
decade, there from the 70s tothe 80s.
Um, a lot of really good stuffwith eva mendez and the joaquin
phoenix character, theirrelationship, a great, a great
crime thriller.
Um, I don't think it again likeit is if I could take 10 mark

(01:08:25):
walberg movies with me to adesert island I'm bringing we on
the night, but I don't know ifit best showcases his ability as
as an actor.
He's just playing it reallystraight in this movie.
He's.
He's not doing anything special, um, but god is it a great
movie yeah, I, I don't, I, Idon't know if we include it,

(01:08:48):
though I say, I say throw ityellow.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Okay, throw it yellow for now okay, next one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Do you guys remember remember the uh great
blockbuster hit?
The Happening?

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Remember, six months ago on this pod when, I defended
the Happening with my life.
You did.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
For what episode?

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
During the trap M Night Shyamalan episode oh, yeah
, yeah, yeah.
Rewatching this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
This movie scared me so bad when I was little M Night
.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Zooey Deschanel and Mark Wahlberg.
The joke was on us.
They knew exactly what theywere doing.
They were trying to make aTwilight Zone 1950s propaganda
thriller about these murderousplants and all of us expected it

(01:09:42):
to be.
And now, part of that isbecause expectation and
expectation is like the killerof hope or whatever.
There's some you know quippysaying, but this I think this
movie is.
It's redeemable like and he isridiculous in the role and the
line readings are bad, but again, I think it's intentional and I

(01:10:05):
think that there's purposebehind it, and so, again, I'm
not here to say that it belongsin the mark walberg hall of fame
.
However, I do think that peopleneed to give the happening a
rewatch and I think you need tounderstand that not every movie

(01:10:25):
is intended to land us like thesame way with its audience, like
this movie is not trying to besigns this movie is not trying
to be the sixth sense and it's atwist this, this movie is
trying to be something that mnight shamalan, mark walberg,
people that loved the twilightzone, people that that really

(01:10:48):
liked science fiction growing upin, in these, in these monster
movies, in these, um, you know,like attack of the 50 foot woman
or ants, or all these differentkind of schlocky, schlocky
thrillers from the 70s orwhatever, like that's what this
movie is paying homage to, andso I don't know.

(01:11:09):
I, I'm an apologist when itcomes to the happening, but I, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
I think it's a yellow .
Um, I'm not.
I mean, it's one of thosemovies like like another movie I
haven't seen in quite a while,but I remember when it came out
and it was very like it causedquite the stir when people hated
this movie, I know, and itWahlberg in disappointing box
office, and you could say thesame happened with M Night Right

(01:11:48):
After this film.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Totally.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Almost to the point where he kind of like he course
corrects in 2010 and like reallyleans into a different side of
himself for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
I think like a part of me really wants to be
contrarian and be like andalmost say like the happening
has to go in.
But I don't think we do that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
I think, I think we make it yellow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
I agree yeah, yellow.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Um, okay, next one, I'm.
I don't even.
I don't even know what thismovie is.
Max Payne.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Oh, you never play the Max Payne video games no.
Did you ever play?

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
the Max Payne video games.
My name is Max Brother.
I had to.
It's part of the contract.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
What year does this come out?
2008?
I would argue to say so.
The games had to have been acouple years prior to this yeah,
the games were like oh, five.
I feel like okay, four orsomething like so, then, half of
my life at 15 years old wasspent in bullet time.
The other half shooting up maxdealing with beelzebub and and

(01:12:56):
and the, the trauma of my uhdeceased infant.
No um, this movie and milakunis is is his like counterpart
in the film.
Um, it's so unsuccessful and itwas such a bummer yeah because
these games, I think, werebeloved to gen 1 xbox people.

(01:13:17):
Um, such a great, such a greatshooter, this, uh, this game
series, but this movie's redlike it's, it's really bad it's
really, really bad and it'strying to do like sin city and
the matrix yeah, and you know itreminds me a lot of like
Constantine at the time, and butit is, it is, it's poorly

(01:13:43):
poorly made, like Razzie bad.
I feel like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
OK.
Well, so the next one afterthis.
Definitely, I don't think evenneeds to be on here, but it is
worth mentioning the lovelybones.
He plays the dad.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
This is more of a sersha ronan movie yeah, yeah,
so this is one of the movies Iwatched about six mark walberg
movies about 45 minutes in, and,and that was a good barometer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Yeah to kind of be like okay yeah, this, this one
has has merit walked up to thebar you said do you have a
flight?

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
yeah, could I, could I get a flight?

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
just try everything yeah, um, you get six ounce of
of that, six ounce of that thisis such an odd, odd movie, peter
jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Peter jackson, what try.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Well, and you know what this is.
This is garbage prestige.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
He's trying, yeah, he's trying to go back to
heavenly creatures, right, likehe's trying to do that again, um
, but unfortunately I think atthis moment in time it just was.
It's just not.
Peter had thrown his lastfastball and uh, the book was
incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
This is this is why this movie happens too, because
this is the young adult.
Ya, boom of twilight of youknow, divergence to come, hunger
games are to come, like all ofthese, this is like a true crime
all of these adaptations.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
It's a devastating book to read when you're a
teenager.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
And um I, yeah, the movie is not.
It's not good, but sersha is.
I think she's great in it.
Um, god, I I actually saw aclip of this on TikTok the other
day and I started crying.
Like it's a, it's.
The book is so heavy.
The movie, like the whole thepremise of the movie, is really

(01:15:31):
devastating.
I think Mark Wahlberg plays areally like you know, touching
father who's obviously trying toseek justice for the murder of
his daughter.
But, um, yeah, it's.
It's not a, it's not a greatmovie, but the the book is
absolutely would have been sointeresting.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
The the big like note like behind the scenes note of
this is that ryan gosling wasgoing to play the killer in this
film.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Instead of Stanley Tucci, instead.
Of.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Stanley Tucci Gosling I guess being a very intense
actor decided that the characterneeded to be like 60 to 70
pounds overweight and showed upto set fat Like he had gained a
ton of weight.
And Peter Jackson said this isnot what I hired you for.

(01:16:22):
This is not what I wanted.
That's crazy.
I'm going to fire you now.
What I fired Ryan Gosling offthis movie.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
I can't imagine him playing Stanley Tucci's part.
Stanley Tucci to me that was areally good part for him to play
.
He really creeped me out.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
But I can't imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Really overweight.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Ryan gosling, yeah well, I do have it at red, just
because, like this is not a markwalberg movie, and then same
with date night, which comesright after that.
this he just plays a small part,but I do find it kind of
noteworthy just because he playsa ridiculous character in this
movie.
It's a really stupid comedy,but he this is where we're

(01:17:01):
starting to get into this likewacky side of mark walberg um,
where, like the next movie afterthis is absolutely a green for
me, I, I, whatever, but I'mhappy go.
Sorry, date night is a red,yeah, but let's just get right

(01:17:21):
into the other guys.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
So I'm so glad that you say that it's an automatic
green for you, because I knowthat there are two kinds of
people out there in the world.
There's those who probably justhaven't seen the other guys, or
who maybe saw it once anddidn't really have a
relationship with it, and thenthere's other folks.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
It sounds like you're one of them who are like this
is on the level of some of thegreat.
This is 2010s comedies, this iselite humor and this is like
one of those movies.
Like it's so fucking bizarre.
There's like even the way thatthis movie starts out with, uh,
with the rock and samuel ljackson and they're like aim for
the bushes and then theyliterally just commit suicide
off of this building and Iremember seeing this and being

(01:18:08):
like what the fuck is this like?
What am I watching?
And this is just as much markwalberg's movie as it is will
ferrell's movie.
They both are like the leadingguys in this and this was the
first time I had seen MarkWahlberg in a movie like.
That wasn't serious and itevery list that I looked up this

(01:18:31):
past week of like best MarkWahlberg movies like what I
wanted to see, like where peoplewere putting his movies at, and
this is every hands down,always at least in like the top
eight or so and I I have to, Ihave to say like this is we saw
this side of him in this movie.
That was just like, oh, you'refunny as hell, and there's just

(01:18:54):
like really weird humor, I meanI mean adam mckay, it's, it's
part of part of the anchorman.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Yeah, you know universe right, and yeah, it's,
it's very, it's a very high highfor his, for walberg's comedy
side.
Um, and you know, like I'm apeacock, you gotta let me fly
like it when a movie has a quotethat is quotable and is still

(01:19:23):
heard yeah to this day.
I I kind of stand with you.
I think I think this might haveto be green.
However, I think if you putthis green, if we put this green
, I think it does knock out.
Possibly knock out another veryhigh point for mark walberg's
comedy, interesting well let'sput a green for now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Yeah, I cross that bridge when we get there yeah,
um, okay, the next one um thefighter before we get to the
fighter.
I think there's an importantnote to make here, because we're
in 2010.
2010 marks the end of Entourage.
Is there any thought?

(01:20:04):
Because you start to look atsome of the movies that he makes
in the 2000s and you're like,wow, you're taking some weird
chances here.
And then how do you get to justhave all this fun In the 2010s?
Well, guess what?
It's because he made abazillion dollars With Entourage
.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Is Entourage the greatest thing he's ever been a
part of?

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
He's only been in four episodes of Entourage.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
However, he's the executive producer and it's his
story oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
I've never seen Entourage.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Vincent Chase is supposed to be Mark Wahlberg in
that television series.
So it's just a discussion tohave, sure, and maybe we have it
at the end.
But I think it's just adiscussion to have and maybe we
have it at the end.
But I think it's just importantto put a pin in it now, because
we are in 2010 and that's theend of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Yeah, and again it could be the most important
thing he's been a part of, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
But to get to the fighter, to me this is green.
I mean he's nominated for BestPicture as the producer of this
film, another David O Russellmovie.
Christian Bale wins BestSupporting Actor, for this film
finally gets him an AcademyAward.
I think this is kind of theculmination of this Boston

(01:21:19):
persona that he hadn't quitebeen like world famous for yet.
But with this movie and thenotoriety that it received and
the fact that it was in theOscar race, I think that you can
make the case that this is themost prestigious movie, along
with Boogie Nights that he'sever been a part of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
I agree, I think not putting it at green would be
weird because of, just like, theOscar hype around this.
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
And it's, it's, it's, it's a celebrity, it's an
A-list actor Like this feelsweird saying almost but like
using their power for good.
Like all of all that money thathe banked off of entourage, you
know, he puts it towards theproduction of of this film and
it does so much for the careerof of so many other people like

(01:22:12):
this is it?
It's one of the first likereally really good amy adams
performances when she was likeon her hot streak.
So I I don't know I've alwaysreally enjoyed the fighter.
I remember seeing the fighterin theaters.
I was living in hawaii at thetime.
My dad came to visit like I.
There was this really cooltheater that kind of showed, um,
the more the more art housetype films, the more like um

(01:22:34):
kind of prestigious oscar baitfilms, and so it was like
december we went and saw thismovie and just I was like blown
away by it.
Christian Bale, does you know,like kind of steal the show and
that's what earns him theAcademy Award.
Mark wasn't even nominated forbest lead actor in the movie,
but like he's, he's great as andit's a great boxing movie like

(01:22:54):
I.
I am here for the fighter yeah,thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
I'm on the record, I believe, of saying I don't enjoy
this film.
Why is that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Too try-hardy maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Yeah, I think it's a little up its own ass.
I don't know it's so weirdbecause it's not that I don't
like Amy Adams.
I it's not that I don't likeamy adams, it's not that I don't
like christian bale.
You know I'm obviously a fan ofmark, but yeah, I don't know
something about it.
It just like it's just not.

(01:23:34):
It just I don't know.
It know it's about anotherwhite guy boxing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
And something about that just rubs me.
There's just something that'sjust not very exciting about it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Fair enough?
Yeah, so are we.
What are we thinking?
Green, yellow.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
I mean, does Mark get nominated?

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
He's a producer on the film and it's nominated for
Best Picture.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Is he nominated for Best Supporting Actor, though.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
So he was nominated for Best Supporting Actor in the
Departed oh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
The Departed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
And then he's nominated for his second Academy
Award in his career as aproducer of this film.
So when you look him up, he'sgot two Academy Award
nominations one for acting, onefor producing Right, this is the
one for producing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Okay, I say we put it at yellow.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Yellow, okay yeah.
Okay, next one she has thehighlighters over there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
She is in control.
Well, the next one is a triplefave for us all.
This is what started the wholeconversation.
I watched contraband um lastweek and I I fucking love this
movie.
It's so good, um, is it hisbest movie ever?
I don't know, but it is, in mybook, not the best ever.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Well, here's what the Hall of Fame has to do.
The Hall of Fame has to showthe different times in an actor
or a filmmaker's career in which, if you could just explain
someone's entire filmography in10 movies, would you include it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
And there's well, but there's the case to be made.
Yes, you would include yes, youwould include this because when
it comes to the garbage crimevariety, like we put shooter
yeah green sure, but that maybestill has more earnestness
behind it, even though it'sreally silly watching it.
You know, almost 20 years later,but like contraband's not that

(01:25:41):
old contraband's, like barely 10years old and this movie was
I'm I remember seeing this in atthe theater, at the galaxy
theater.
This movie, um, the galaxyuptown, this movie was
ridiculous then.
It was ridiculous five yearsago, I think, when everyone kind
of like returned to it.
I don't, it must have had likea big resurgence on streaming,

(01:26:02):
because I can remember that'sreally when, like the giovanni
ris bc voice started gettingpassed around and everything.
Um, you know, this was when benfoster was just like in
everything and always playing agreat shit.
Heel.
Um, you know, kate beckinsaleis just phenomenal, as she is in
everything in this movie.
Um, I like contraband's great.

(01:26:24):
Contraband rips, contrabandtakes no time off.
Um, it's I I don't know.
I think there's a strong caseto make you green I, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
I love that answer for sure I.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
I think contraband kind of is is like when mark is
at his best.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
It might be like it might be mark walberg
personified yeah like leadingman kind of a shitheel like also
, yeah, yeah uh, and and andjust a, just a walking badass
too, and it's just like the kindof movie that sylvester
stallone or chuck norris ormaybe like arnold schwarzenegger

(01:27:05):
or bruce willis would have beenin 20 to 30 years ago.
But now it's just like markwalberg having to go to south
america to get a bunch of likecounterfeit bills or whatever it
is like out of shippingcontainers.
And they're counterfeit billsor whatever it is like out of
shipping containers and they'refucking just mobbing around and

(01:27:27):
we got to get back on boats andjk simmons is barking at him
like this movie just works.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
It works every time it does yeah, okay, okay put it
green for now.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Put it green for now yeah, um, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
So the next movie I think this is what Max was kind
of alluding to is Ted, and thisis another like really popular
comedy of his that I feel likethis is like his mainstream
comedy movie that like got a lotof like everyone on board with
it because it was really raunchy.
It was just this weird concept.

(01:27:56):
It was just this weird concept,whereas like the other guys was
kind of not so mainstreamcomedy.
It's more of like that like youmight not get the humor, like
you might not pick up on some ofthe jokes, whereas ted was a
little bit more like directabout the humor it's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
It's the seth mcfarland brand, it's the family
guy brand.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Right of humor, yeah I'm not a huge fan I never have
been either of humor.
I'm not a huge fan.
I never have been either.
I'm not a fan of, I don'treally like the Family Guy or
anything like that.
I didn't really watch that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
The Family Guy the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Family Guy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
I don't like the Family.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Guy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Peter Griffin.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
The Family Guy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Yeah, well, I didn't dislike this movie.
It's just not been a movie thatI've read like, that I've
re-watched and I you know Ithink that it had a lot of hype
when it came out.
There's a lot of fans.
But it even got a second onelater on.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
But I think the movie's quite stupid in premise
and in execution and the jokesare all pretty shallow.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
It's that stupid humor, but not the kind of
stupid humor that, like theother guys is, because the other
guys is still stupid humor, butit's that kind of humor where
you're like this is weird, likeit kind of like a little absurd.
It's absurd.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
Yeah, this one is just really it's stoner catnip,
yeah, and, and unfortunately Ithink those movies just don't
age.
I don't think Ted has that biga footprint right now so I think
the other guys is the superiorcomedy when put up against Ted
yeah, I agree um so red thatshit alright.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Um.
Next movie is broken city.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Never seen this I just had to actually click on
this one and look it up becauseI remember hearing about it.
We have katherine zeta, jonesrussell, crowe, jeffrey wright,
barry pepper in supporting rolesfor this film.
Um, but again, this is the kindof movie that like probably
doesn't happen.
It just sounds like from justreading the log line in my head
a second ago.
It this doesn't happen if, like, contraband isn't sort of a

(01:30:07):
thing a few years earlier.
So again, like that's why Ithink contraband is so important
to recognize, because there'sjust they're coming up here
especially there are so manyless successful versions of a
contraband in his filmography.
So, like, recognizing thatmovie is important because it's
the best version of somethinghe's really good at doing.

(01:30:28):
I'm sure he's fine in BrokenCity, but I think we can
comfortably put it red.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
Okay, next is Pain and Gain.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
And for the same reasons, although this is you
know, we worship at the altar ofMichael Bay, but like I just
don't, I don't see this going inas one of Mark Wahlberg's 10
best movies.
No, and it's.
This movie is almost tooself-aware.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
It is.
It is so meta and it's MichaelBay-ness.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Yeah, not for me.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
No, mm-hmm, yeah, not for me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
No, not this one, neither.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
It's a miss for Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Two Guns.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
I quite like this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Never seen this.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Him playing opposite Denzel, as I think one's like a
CIA agent, one's a DEA agent.
A perfectly fine movie, prettyfun, as like a little two-hander
, sort of in the vein of like alethal weapon kind of movie.
But I I mean, ultimatelythere's I don't think there's a
case for making this even yellowno, um.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Okay, now we're getting into the good stuff.
Lone survivor is next this is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
This is certainly now a different stage in his career
, I think, and I mean itprobably starts really with
something like, with, with like,because Ted's hugely successful
Ted made a ton of money.
So now you're you're able tocast Mark Wahlberg in your movie
as one of a few things.
Like, he can be the dad, he canbe the grizzled war vet, he can

(01:32:01):
be a goofball comedy guy Likehe's.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
He's basically shown every pitch that he has now, at
this age, this is his firstPeter Berg movie too.
First important yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Very important.
Uh, it goes on to collaboratewith Berg four times.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Um this is a great.
It's a great movie.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
I remember seeing this in the theater and being
thrilled yeah, I, I, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
And out of the four bergs films, I think this is
probably the the height.
Again, incredibly stacked cast.
Watching this the other day youhave ben foster, emil h Hirsch,
taylor Kisich.
The movie kind of starts outlike oh, this is a Taylor Kisich
movie.
Wahlberg, eric Bana who's thelittle blonde kid from?

(01:32:53):
What's his name?
Alexander Ludwig, yeah, where's.
What is he he's in?
Is he in Hunger Games orsomething?
What, where?
Where's?
What is he he's in?
Is he in hunger games orsomething?
What was he from?

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
yes, he is in hunger games.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
Okay, there you go, right, yeah he's uh, he's kato
right, yeah, um, yeah, uh.
I really fucking love thismovie.
I think lone survivor is likeone of the better modern day
military films I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
I I think that there is a you know.
I mean, the story of MarcusLuttrell is extremely just.
This movie makes me cry everytime Peter Berg does make me cry
, but I think that just so muchof like what into this went into

(01:33:41):
this movie is really impressive.
I know that there's somecontroversy that the story might
not be like extremely accurate,but this is based off of Marcus
Luttrell's book Lone Survivorand I think that there is a lot
of heart to it.
We're getting into this, thiswar genre that Mark does really

(01:34:01):
well.
The cast is incredible.
There's really great chemistrybetween the guys.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
But then the back half of the movie.
It becomes Mark Wahlberg yeahhe has to carry the whole thing.
I think we put it green now andthen, just if we have to make
some tough decisions later, wecross that bridge when we get to
it.
I agree, hopefully we.
I think we put a green now andthen, just if we have to make
some tough decisions later, wecross that bridge when we get to
it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
I agree.
Hopefully we don't get put on alist.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Yeah, I didn't really know if I should add this one,
because I've never seen theseones.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Oh, you add this one.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Oh, okay.
Transformers Age of Extinction.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
This is quite bad.
This is really bad.
Of extinction this is quite bad.
This is really bad.
We uh, alex and I went down thetransformers rabbit hole and
ranked them all.
When was that?

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
long ago.
Yeah, um beast wars, wars.
Yeah, yeah, um this is.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
This is one great work of uh beast wars to that
conversation thank god, whenwill beast wars 2 come?

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
uh transformers, age of extinction is is quite, quite
poor.
We might have put it at thebottom of our transformer
rankings, or or well, it mighthave been this one or the the
last night, I mean oh, the lastnight may have been.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Yeah, the at the bottom um, I think he is
hilariously miscast, yeah, inthese movies, and I don't know
why.
Michael bay because pain andgain right, they must have a
great time again, right, but Ijust don't know why the studios
at this point, I don't know whybay himself as a producer, I

(01:35:35):
don't know why the transformermovies work so much better when
it is an adolescent and or youngadult as like the primary
conduit for this interactionbetween the autobots and humans,
and why we needed to make itlike, yes, mark walberg, he, um,
there are still.
You know, his daughter is isalso like a prominent person in

(01:35:59):
interacting here with theAutobots and put in peril and
all these different things orwhatever.
But it's just so weird that allof a sudden, what we do is have
a grown adult like a grown man,a grown man.
Talking to Optimus.

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
Optimus.
Where are the Decepticons?

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
it's really bad.
It's hilarious but it's reallybad.
I think both the Transformermovies are red but they're
important to acknowledge inMark's career because once again
these movies made a ton ofmoney and made Wahlberg a ton of
money, and they're just another.
At this point he's got a family.
He can say, hey, kids, I was inthe Transformer movies, like I

(01:36:44):
get it.
Trust me, I get it that's fair.
The next is the Gambler so Iunfortunately have no
relationship with this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
Same it's been one that I've circled for long, a
long long time one that has andI don't know long, long time,
one that has, and I don't knowwhy it has a little bit of a
cult following.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Yeah, Because Rupert Wyatt, the director.
I don't really know what elsethis guy has done or been known
for.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
I believe Venom fame.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Of Venom fame Only 14 director credits.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Oh no, excuse me.
Rise of the Planet of the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Apes.
Oh, you don't say Interesting.
Well, we like that film.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
We do like that film.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
So I don't know, god, we really like that movie, the
Mosquito Coast.
That was an interesting TVseries that came out a couple
years ago.
I watched that during COVID.
I don't know, I don't know whypeople like this movie.
I would love to find outsomeday.
I assume it's about gambling.
That's about all I can tell you, and we like a good card movie

(01:37:53):
If it's something likeMississippi Grind.
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Mississippi Grind the card counter somewhere in the
middle there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
Sure Could be really good, so I don't know that's on
us listeners yeah, for not our.
Our game is not familiar.
We don't know ball.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
George Kennedy is in this film interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
I saw something really funny, a meme the other
day that said if you really wantto just upset like a red
blooded straight American malethis weekend, ask them what they
think about the Super Bowl,like who they think is going to
win, any sort of predictionsthey have, yada, yada, let them
go and then when they're donetalking just kind of like shake

(01:38:36):
your head, disagree and be likeyou don't know ball and just see
what their reaction is um.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
So I don't know, we don't know the gambler we I just
I don't know.
I'm sorry we don't um, do I?

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
I.
I do not know what the theproject mojave.
He is a bit part.
Okay, great Red.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Yeah, okay, entourage .

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
Plays himself in the movie.
Yeah, I don't really know Seeonce again, this is where, like
I think, there's a discussion tobe had.

Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
About the Entourage the Entourage property Right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
As being inducted into the Mark Wahlberg Hall of
Fame.
Okay, if you have it writtendown on your list anywhere, I
think we'd yellow, justentourage.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
And circle back here.
Next one is Ted 2.
I think we put it red, for thesame reasoning as the first
Daddy's Home.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Unfamiliar.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
You've never seen Daddy's Home.
Will Ferrell and Mark Wahl upagain, okay yeah, to try and
bring back the other guys.
Uh, magic will.
Farrell is pretty fuckinghilarious throughout this film.
Yeah, uh, another one, thoughthat I've watched about 45
minutes and mark walberg hasfunny.
You know he comes in playing itvery straight and like this

(01:39:57):
total badass.
But this movie is not good, itis red Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
Next one after that, and I will hold in my enthusiasm
for this.
But second, peter Berg collab,deepwater Horizon.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Let her cook I had no idea you're such a berg head.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
Yeah, this is great I didn't know, I was either he
salutes you, uh, in your fightthis is this.
So if I had to pick my top markwalberg movie, this is number
one.
This movie is absolutelyintense.
I, I it's.

(01:40:43):
I mean it's about you know,it's another true story about
the, the bp oil spill.
Um, I think mark walberg isjust at like his all-time high
in this.
He plays like his.
There's so much again, like somuch heart to this role and

(01:41:03):
there's a there's a scene thatvery end, when he comes home to
his family and he just breaksdown in his hotel room.
I mean it's like, it's reallygood.
I think that there's like somereally incredible scenes.
Just CGI, like whatever like isgoing on.
I, this movie blew me away andI've and I've continued to

(01:41:27):
rewatch it over the years and Ilove it.
I think this is another one ofthose movies I've seen very,
very high, almost number one inmost people's rankings of his
movies.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
He plays such a good blue collar.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
I was thinking about that earlier and I was like this
man is like totally selling thetrade school route, you know,
like he really does play a bluecollar worker.
So well, the men we need torespect, you know.

(01:42:04):
I mean seriously, I meanseriously, I, yeah, I, I love
this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
It's my favorite peterberg movie to me deep water
horizon.
If we're gonna go back to thetom cruise comparison, this is
like when you just when youcan't see past a certain actor
as being a celebrity first, andthen all of a sudden they go and
they do a movie like for tomcruise.
I feel like that was live, dive, repeat, edge of tomorrow and

(01:42:28):
all of a sudden that blew peopleaway and you almost forget that
you're watching tom cruise in amovie like that and there's so
much cgi, there's so much goingon in that film.
It's science fiction, whereaslike this is, you know,
obviously based on true, butlike you kind of get lost in the
performance again and itreminds you of all the amazing
things that they've done in thepast and you're like, oh yeah,
no shit, this is why you are afamous A-list actor.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
I think that this Deepwater Horizon is his movie,
like that for the 2010s.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Where you get lost in the performance and then by the
end of it you're like wow, markwalberg yeah like I forgot he
had.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Like there's your fastball, yeah also another
really great cast, like we havekurt russell, kate hudson, uh,
gina rodriguez, john malkovichGosh who else am I looking at?

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
Yeah, those people, we love those people.
I do, I think, deepwaterHorizon's green?
Yeah, I think so too, and wejust at this point, we're not
worrying about how many greenswe have.
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
No, okay, the next one is another, I mean another
peterberg.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
uh, same year patriots day, another heavy
watch exactly like I don't wantto exclude this film no or its
historical significance but it'snot on the same.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
I mean, I hate even saying that because it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
These movies are based on like really dark
tragedies that are and Wahlbergbeing a son of Boston, no one
meant a ton.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
Absolutely it's.
It's not the best, just like I,like I and I the way that I
kind of ranked that is justbased on his performance a
little bit Like, if I'mcomparing it to, like Deepwater
Horizon, like I feel like he putso much into that movie and

(01:44:29):
maybe not enough into Patriot'sDay, it's still a really good
movie and it's still like I feellike you know an important
watch, I feel like a you know animportant watch, but I don't
know that like if we're, if it'sfighting for a spot, like like
a movie like lone survivor ordeep water horizon, it's going
to take it away.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
I do think that those movies are superior in the
Peter Berg, wahlberg and the andthe Bergessons Um.
However, patriots day greatfilm, great adult drama.
Peter Berg is kind of afilmmaker and it doesn't look
like he hasn't made a moviesince 2020.

(01:45:13):
He's been working in TV a lot,but someone who could really
take a middle-of-the-road budgetand make something pretty great
.
And Wahlberg is his fucking boyand brings out some of the best
in Wahlberg.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Yeah, indeed.

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
But yeah, I don't.
Shout out to Patriot today, butyeah, we have Deepwater, we
have Lone Survivor, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Yeah, I agree, okay, patriots day.
But yeah, we have Deepwater, wehave lone survivor.
Yeah, yeah, I agree, okay, so Ithink we already had marked
this.
Red was Transformers the lastnight.
Kd Yeager yeah, and then Afterthat KD.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
Yeager, kd Yeager, we salute you.
After that another red Optimusis out there podcasting About
you somewhere from deep space toall those listening.
My boy, kade yager, joins me torank mark walberg movies
daddy's home too, just plaindusty yeah no last name.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Lost the last name yeah, that's, uh, that's a red
yeah, um, this is a movie I havenot seen All the money in the
world.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
That's because you ditched us on the Ridley Scott
episode.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
You've had two opportunities the Ridley Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
This is a Ridley Scott film.
It's red.

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
This is red, it's a weak movie overall Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
His last Peter Berg collab, Mile 22.
Alex, you just rewatched thisfor the first time, actually.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
So I know this movie had a huge resurgence during the
pandemic.
I believe it was on Netflix atthe time and kind of received
like the den of thieves triplenine, triple frontier sort of
treatment where all of a sudden,you wake up one day, you fire
up Netflix whatever, you'rewatching Paramount Prime and
you're like why is this crimethriller from four years ago the

(01:47:06):
number one movie in America?
I can't explain to you how thathappens or why that happens,
but that's what happened to Mile22, a 2018 film during the
pandemic.
So I was like OK, it'simportant for me and it was one
pete berg collaboration um, thatI had not seen that of of the
mark walbring movies.
So I fired it up last night.
Um, it is certainly the theweakest of the four

(01:47:32):
collaborations.
I don't think it.
It should even go yellow.
However, this movie is one partchris hemsworth extraction film
um.
One part like the raid and thenlike one part mark walberg,

(01:47:54):
pete berg like military garbagespecial ops, yeah, thriller, um,
and there's nothing wrong withit.
I think that berg gets a little.
You know his editing style.
Even going back to, like thefriday night lights film is so
interesting, um, it can be realchoppy and real chaotic at times
and I feel like that can lenditself to an action film and in

(01:48:18):
a multitude of different ways,like sometimes it can make up
for for poor choreography, but,like this movie, when this movie
becomes the raid for like 20minutes, it's a really thrilling
scene in this giant apartmentcomplex.
Um, the movie also has a littlebit of smoking aces to it,
basically because Mark Wahlbergand his team, which includes, um
, like Ronda Rousey and a fewother people, they have to

(01:48:40):
extract this prisoner who isseeking amnesty to the United
States because he holds, likethe code for you know, of course
, some sort of like MacGuffinkey card that's going to tell
someone, the United Statesgovernment, like, where this
toxic chemical is, and so they,um, they have to transport him

(01:49:01):
22 miles to the safe zone wherewhere they can then be extracted
, and and so what happens is youalmost get this smoke and aces
style of like all the hit man.
You know all these differentgovernment agencies.
The Russians are involved.
Um, this takes place in likeSoutheast Asia, somewhere, india
, I I'm not really sure exactlywhere it is, but all these
different special ops forces aretrying to intercept them along

(01:49:27):
this route to the landing, tothe airport, to the landing zone
, and so it's really thrilling.
But the editing is too much inthis movie and where, like these
action set pieces, it'ssometimes like there's some
great shootouts in the middle ofa street and broad daylight
where I'm like if Michael Mannwas shooting this, like I've

(01:49:49):
seen the way Michael Mann wouldshoot this it's fucking sick.
Just give me a wide shot oflike Mark Wahlberg tearing
through a whole clip and thenreloading and going right back
at it, yeah, with his finger onthe trigger.
But like that's not what youget in this movie.
You just get a ton of adhd,smash, cuts, um, and explosions
and it's really messy.
But like a part of me cantotally see why this movie was

(01:50:13):
was reclaimed a couple years agoas like some good garbage crime
.
So it's's fun, but it's red.
It's red, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
I'm sorry to admit that pretty much the rest of his
movies.
I have not seen any of themBecause this is where he kind of
falls off for me Like he hadsuch a strong era.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
His 2020s have been pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Yeah, although he's booked and busy, the guy is
working, you know, and he'severy year coming out with
something.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
What is Spencer Confidential?
I mean, do you want to runthrough him real quick?
I feel like SpencerConfidential is a thing for a
lot of people.
Is it another like pandemicmovie?

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
Is the final actual Pete Burd collaboration oh, is
it oh.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
And it is bad oh my gosh, you're right, it is bad on
a script.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
It's a Netflix, it's a straight to Netflix film.
It is a adaptation, I believe,of a 60s spy show.
Okay, and it's Pete Berg tryingto do like quippy, funny Berg
action like Hancock Pete Bergsort of.

(01:51:26):
Yeah, hancock peak like he'strying to do Italian job but in
his style of filming and it justdoes not work.
Hmm, spencer, confidential isbad.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
I've never seen instant family yeah, instant
Family Spencer, confidentialScoob.

Speaker 3 (01:51:43):
Scoob, he's a voice.
Yeah, yeah, some side character.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
Joe Bell.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
Never heard of it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
Infinite.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Never heard of it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
We have heard of Uncharted though.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
I have seen Uncharted .

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
It's a no.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Uncharted is red.
It is really bad.
You know Mark Wahlberg foreverfor so long.
This movie is based on thevideo games that are called
Uncharted, and for so long MarkWahlberg was attached to be
Nathan Drake, the main character.
He then.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
He aged out.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
Yeah, ages out and decides to become a producer on
it and then kind of forces hishand to be sully who he's
completely miscast.
But also, like tom holland, iscompletely miscast.
It's a.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
It's a uncharted, is a failure on on every level okay
, a movie that really sufferedfrom the pandemic work being
shut down, scripts not beingable to be, you know, rewritten
um a movie that's, I feel like,going to be studied in 10 years
as far as like one of the bigbudget failures of the pandemic

(01:52:49):
and of strikes and and all theshit that's happened, basically
with movies for the better partof the 2020s yeah, um.

Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
Okay, then we have a movie called Father Stew.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
Never heard of that.
Nope, isn't this where he goeslike first reformed, but it's
like Well, he's always been avery religious man.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
But yeah, I believe he has leaned into that quite a
bit in the past.
You know, four years, four orfive years and it starts with
Father Stu MeTime, the FamilyPlan, arthur the King, I believe
are all really strongfaith-based films Interesting.

(01:53:35):
And I don't even know what theunion is.
I've never heard of that andthat leads us to flight risk
flight risk.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Yeah, do you guys think that like like obviously
we really like mark walberg,like he's a he's proven to be a
great actor, right, like do youthink that he could have like a
like a resurgence where we see amovie like that's not something
like flight risk, where it'slike we could see him kind of

(01:54:05):
tap into this like contraband,like peter, like peterberg, like
version of himself?

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
I'll be honest, I'm I was really excited to see him
doing something like flight riskagain and almost playing like
the Giovanni Rizbisi characterfrom Contraband in this movie,
because I feel like he did kindof lose his way there for a
little bit after maybe like mild22 or or the last couple

(01:54:34):
transformer movies, or just atthe end of the pete berg run,
basically there at the end ofthe the 20 teens, um and so to
see him get back into flightrisk.
He is only, like I said, he'sonly 53 yeah I.
I expected him to maybe be alittle bit older than that and
so he still has a lot ofphysicality to him.
I mean, like I could see himstill being in these action

(01:54:57):
adventure roles.
However, I would like to maybesee him do something like work
with like a Paul Schrader andlike could I?
see him do something like whatOscar Isaac did in the card
counter.
Absolutely I would love to seea more contained, toned down
like interpersonal story aboutjust kind of like.

(01:55:19):
I mean like, yeah, the paulschrader mode of just like a guy
working through some innerdemons, you know, and it doesn't
have to be so faith-based,maybe, um, like what, like what.
Some of these movies are hereat the at the end of his
filmography as it stands rightnow, but I, I I certainly think
he has a couple more like.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
I think he's got a couple more all-star seasons in
him yeah he's got some stuff inproduction, so yeah, I would
love to see him go back to youknow.
Yeah, like something like weown the night, right, you know
or not?
Not as like schlocky and flashyas contraband, but like I don't

(01:55:59):
know, get him back in a uniformyeah you know, and not not a
reverend or a prison uniform.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Yeah, get him back on the streets, or like think
about some of the stuff that,like, maybe damon has done, um,
you know where it's just like,um, I forget the name of the
this movie, but where he's justlike a dad and he has to, like
you know, go to europe orwhatever, because no?

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
not, we bought a zoo.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
No, that's what I know.
But scar joe go back to.
We bought a zoo, um, but no,you know where.
It's just like I don't gosh.
What was that movie called, Idon't know but um, but yeah,
we're almost like like could hebe in like a taken kind of movie
?
I think so you know like yeahand in some kind of role like
that for sure, that's a greatcall actually, yeah kind of just

(01:56:46):
like say, like liam neesonyou're like king of garbage
crime like just yeah, lean intothat absolutely okay, erica, hit
us with our greens

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
all right.
So our greens are fear, boogienights, the italian job, four
brothers shooter, the other guyscontraband, lone, survivor,
deepwater horizon.
We have one spot we have ninegreens nine greens yeah, and so

(01:57:15):
that's so interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
With entourage still on the table then yeah,
entourage the overarchingproduct of entourage is is very
important.
Sitting here and going throughthe filmography, I think, even
though I don't like the movie,the fighter is very important
let's hear all the yellows, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57:37):
The Basketball Diaries Three Kings, the Yards,
the Perfect Storm, rockstar, IHeart Huckabees, we Own the
Night, the Happening, theFighter and then, yeah,
entourage.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
So 10 yellows.

Speaker 3 (01:57:54):
I think we can take the yards off because we have
not.

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
Let's go process of elimination.

Speaker 1 (01:57:59):
This is smart, I think we can take the happening
off, because it's like becausewhen I'm thinking about ranking
this, like giving him his top 10, I'm thinking about like his
best movies, you know, likethese, like you know, I'm gonna
ask you a question, like at theend and and I'm thinking of like

(01:58:19):
, okay, like this guy who's hadan incredible career, while a
lot of these movies might nothave been successful, like I'm
thinking of like what are histop 10 best movies?
If you could show an alienright, like these movies to
describe him, what would it be,you know?
And so I think the happening islike.

(01:58:40):
Sure, it was like a littleweird cultural phenomenon when
it came out, but we can probablytake that off and I think you
can take basketball diaries offand I think we get the beginning
.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
I think you just take I heart hugabees off.

Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
It's gonna rip that band-aid off I was just about to
say that happening in thebasket.

Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
I think you take three Kings off.
To take three Kings off, I meanhonestly, I, looking at the
list, I think it actually comesdown to rock star the fighter
the reason, the reason.

Speaker 1 (01:59:12):
Well, so let me, let me defend the whole entourage
thing, because I it's like ifhe's a producer on that and I
don't know, I've never seen it,I know he's just not.
This is not like hisperformance though.
Right, it's like a project ofhis and I appreciate that, but I
don't think of I didn't evenknow that he was attached to

(01:59:33):
Entourage, but I don't know you.
I didn't even know that he wasattached to Entourage, you know,
but I don't know you guys maybeknow more than that.

Speaker 3 (01:59:37):
It is tough because Entourage is a long-standing TV
series where you know he showsup in maybe six episodes over a
span of what?
10 years.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
But if it's here's the thing, okay, keep going,
keep going, here's the thingokay, keep going, keep going.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
And yes, he is the architect behind and it is based
loosely on his life experience.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
However, it would.
This would almost be like notputting seinfeld in a larry
david hall of fame that's reallyinteresting, but don't you
think Larry David lives in TV?

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
So of course that would be.

Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
Right, but if you were doing like a Larry David
Hall of Fame or Larry DavidMount Rushmore, yes, I
understand.
But, just like in principle.
Mark Wahlberg has just as muchinvolvement in Entourage as
Larry David did in Seinfeld,without being on screen.

Speaker 3 (02:00:38):
Right, that's very true.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
And so when you talk and if you're gonna sit down and
watch Entourage I would say bythe end of the first season you
know that this is the MarkWahlberg story.

Speaker 3 (02:00:51):
You are seeing his name every episode.
Every single episode he doesshow up, I think twice in that
first season that's when thecameos happen and, and it's like
he's on here if you wereexperiencing entourage in real
time, as we were.

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
He's on all the he's, he did all the press right, you
know, with those guys withpiven, with grenier, um, and so
it's.
I feel like it's really toughto exclude.

Speaker 1 (02:01:16):
I hear you, I do.

Speaker 3 (02:01:18):
However, the fighter might be the movie version of
that right, Because he's anexecutive producer on that.

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
He's just a producer, Just a producer on that Main
producer.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
But then he's also on screen Right.
It is with David O Russell, whois kind of an important
filmmaker in his filmography.
Absolutely, he's really thefirst.
He's really like the firstauteur who he collaborated with
time and time again, time andtime again, we don't have a
David O Russell movie on thelist.

Speaker 2 (02:01:54):
That feels like a no mission we cannot make.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
But I would almost argue to take off a Peter Berg
movie.
Which would To give a littlespace, because to me it's like
let's it's Lone Survivor orDeepwater Horizon.
I vote Deepwater Horizon.
It is.
It's it's Lone Survivor orDeepwater Horizon.
I vote Deepwater Horizon.
It is it's it's.
They're both great.

Speaker 3 (02:02:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
Both so good, but Deepwater Horizon is the one
where you're not even payingattention.
Like you said, like you're notwatching Mark Wahlberg, you're
watching the story the story andyou're like what?

Speaker 3 (02:02:32):
It's crazy story and you're like what?
It's crazy and deep waterhorizon is probably the best
version.
You know, as we said, he's sogood at playing a blue collar
person.
Yeah, probably the best versionof that.
And if we keep shooter on there, we have the military.

Speaker 2 (02:02:50):
Well, that's what I was just gonna ask, though since
we don't have another like oneto one comparison really, for
Deepwater Horizon, do you makethe case that there should only
be one of either shooter and orlone survivor you can kind of
mix contraband in there too.
I think even though contrabandgets more schlocky and kind of

(02:03:10):
garbage crime, they're all beingrented from the same section at
the video store.
I think I would vote contrabandover shooter contraband stays in
over shooter I think yes, yeahshooter is maybe the one that is
out okay, so you want to keeplone survivor in deep water

(02:03:30):
horizon I'm okay, I actuallywould be okay with that too,
because I like shooters.

Speaker 1 (02:03:35):
Good it's, it's a, it's a great movie.
But I mean, if we're thinkingof what's better, lone survivors
hands down better than shooter.

Speaker 2 (02:03:43):
Agreed, agreed, okay, so shooters out, shooters out
shooter falls okay lone survivorstays, deep water horizon stays
, then contraband stays, and nowwe're at eight with two spots
for potentially Entourage.
The Fighter maybe Rockstar?
And have we crossed out theDeparted yet?

(02:04:05):
Did we put Departed as red?

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
We did.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Okay, do we have any other remaining yellows that
haven't gone red?
We own the night.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
We own the night the Fighter, the Perfect Storm and
Rockstar, and then Entourage,you see it, we have.
We Own the Night the Fighter,the Perfect Storm and Rockstar,
and then Entourage.
Do you see it, we just the.

Speaker 2 (02:04:17):
Perfect Storm.
Yeah, bobby's still on theboard, bobby Boy, okay, so two
spots left.
I think the Fighter has to goin.
Let's put the Fighter in.
Okay, that feels right.

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
Well, you've kind of like I, I've never seen
Entourage and I know that I likeI appreciate I can tell you
guys are wanting to give meRockstar.
But like as much as I love thatmovie, I know it's like you
know I'm going to I'll berealistic and step off my high
horse.
But, pleading the case ofEntourage, I had no idea that

(02:04:52):
that show was about like looselybased on him.
I had no idea you got to watchlike loosely based on him.

Speaker 3 (02:04:56):
I had no idea.
You gotta watch it.
I think it's coming to netflixpretty soon.

Speaker 1 (02:04:59):
I have a story about a cast member on I have a story
about a cast member on that thatI'll maybe tell you off way
it's, it's not a good one.

Speaker 3 (02:05:07):
Well, I can't wait to hear that's even better.
Uh, so the interesting aboutrockstar, if we want to talk
about that, yeah, thatrepresents something that is
nowhere.

Speaker 2 (02:05:20):
He never really throws that pitch again he never
does that curveball again.

Speaker 3 (02:05:25):
Um, I mean, maybe you can kind of it's up there
higher to boogie nights a littlebit.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
I was just kind of thinking it's sort of similar to
yeah, yeah, sure.

Speaker 3 (02:05:33):
But I mean, yeah, and also, you know, rockstar is
interesting too, because, let'snot forget, he started as a
musician, right, like that washis fame.

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
That's so true.
We haven't even really talkedabout.

Speaker 3 (02:05:49):
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:05:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:05:52):
And so maybe representing that side of Mark
Wahlberg could be important.

Speaker 1 (02:05:59):
I mean, you know I feel about that pick so I do
appreciate that.
So it's, I don't know.
I think I say we take theperfect storm out of here as
much as we don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:06:10):
Yeah, we don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:06:14):
And then what do you think about?

Speaker 2 (02:06:15):
we own the night I mean again, if I can take, if I
can take 10 movies to re-watchto a desert island, I'm without
hesitation grabbing.
We own the night.
But that's for the movie as awhole, that that movie is a sum
of its parts yeah and he's onlya part of it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
I'm gonna Damn.
It's hard because I'm leaningmore towards giving Entourage.
That last spot Now, knowing thesignificance, the cultural
significance of it, it is a verylong running show.

Speaker 3 (02:06:51):
And there is a movie, so we can get away with it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:55):
This is fair, because we're just taking the Entourage
property Right yeah, whichincludes a television show that
ran for six years.

Speaker 3 (02:07:05):
And a film and was like the.
That show especially to youngmales or young people.
We'll say it's green.

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
Yeah, say it's green.

Speaker 3 (02:07:16):
Yeah, it's green.
Are we going entourage?
Yeah, okay, I don't even haveto say that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:20):
It was hugely influential.
It was so influential I mean,when you think of HBO in the
2000s- In the worst ways and thebest ways.

Speaker 1 (02:07:27):
Sure Right Like yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.
Okay, entourage that okay.

Speaker 2 (02:07:39):
Entourage yes, so okay, we've got our.
Here's the other thing too.
I feel like mark walberg, Ifeel like the.
The people who mark walberg wasfriends with when he was 24 are
probably still the people whohe's friends with now and so
like.

Speaker 3 (02:07:49):
And now that's just based on, you know, pure
speculation, but like you don'thave a aside from the show well,
you were over at their house,aside for the Superbowl, um,
wearing the invincible Jersey.

Speaker 2 (02:08:02):
Aside aside from the fact that, like, entourage is
all about, just like being boyswith your boys, like that's.
That's all I have to go on, but, like I feel like Mark walberg
is genuinely a good person, yeah, and.
And who like values friendship,um, and who, like clearly works

(02:08:23):
hard he's a family man likenon-stop works hard, and so I
mean I think I think entourage,you know, say what you will
about that movie's politics andits um, ideas about fame, um and
and power in hollywood and whoholds it and what they do with
it and whatever um, I thinkpivot, and a lot of people

(02:08:45):
involved with that movie or withthat series have already said
like, yeah, we couldn't makethat show the same way now today
, um, but again, it's reflectiveof a time in in hollywood and
in people's life, and it is MarkWahlberg's life that they are
portraying loosely.
I feel good about it.
I feel really bad for somethinglike the Perfect Storm for
Rockstar, for a few of thoseothers that got cut right there

(02:09:08):
at the end, but I'm glad we fitthe fighter in.
I feel, like that is definitelythe right move.

Speaker 1 (02:09:13):
So name them off one more time.

Speaker 3 (02:09:14):
Erica Alright Fear, Boogie Nights, the Italian Job?
I feel like that is definitelythe right move.

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
Cool, so name them off one more time.
Erica, all right, fear, boogieNights, the Italian Job, four
Brothers, the Other Guys, theFighter, contraband, lone
Survivor, entourage andDeepwater Horizon.

Speaker 2 (02:09:29):
That feels right.
That sounds really good.
That feels right.
Those are probably the that's agreat little program.
That's great programming rightthere for a little Mark Wahlberg
film fest Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
Absolutely.
I would love to see any of that.
I'd be in line, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09:44):
Okay, I want to.
It's kind of a hard question.
But if you, if somebody came toyou who'd never seen a Mark
Wahlberg movie they didn't evenknow who the guy was Could you
pick one movie Like, what wouldyou pick to?
Like, introduce his career tosomebody?

Speaker 3 (02:10:00):
From yeah that like.

Speaker 1 (02:10:02):
I know it's really hard, but like something you're
like.
Ok, I'm going to explain MarkWahlberg to you.
Could you pick one?

Speaker 2 (02:10:09):
Yeah, that's.
That's a great question,because I don't think I would.
You wouldn't want to go tooearly?

Speaker 1 (02:10:13):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:10:14):
As much as I'm like Boogie Nights is on the Mount
Rushmore or whatever you knowlike that would just be that
almost be too shocking.

Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
And you almost don't want to go something like
Deepwater Horizon, because whileit's an amazing movie, he's I
don't know that if that wouldlike encompass his entire career
.

Speaker 2 (02:10:31):
To me.
To me, it's honestly probablyeither four brothers or the
italian job.
I was just gonna say for meit's the italian yeah, yeah
because that's probably theeasiest one to digest.
Uh, you said it when you firstbrought it up, like it's crowd
pleasing, it's pg-13, but itkind of has that we always talk
about this with like quoteunquote, like perfect movies or
whatever, but like they feelsort of ratingless yes we're is

(02:10:54):
this movie R or is it PG Likedying?

Speaker 3 (02:10:58):
but it's not gory yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:11:01):
Um, it's very palatable, the Italian job.
I think that would be it here's, here's one for yours.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:11:08):
I, I would say, I mean, I would say something like
I don't know, I I think that'sa really great argument.
I mean I, I would almost agree.
I would almost say maybesomething like contraband too,
it's hard, it's you know, um.

Speaker 3 (02:11:27):
I don't know.
I think you could say deepwater as well.

Speaker 1 (02:11:29):
I think so too.
I just think that like doesthat move so many?
Times.
That's true.

Speaker 2 (02:11:34):
It's the best version of a certain thing that he does
.
Well, okay, here's one.
Is there a role that anotheractor, another contemporary of
his, has had in the last maybe10 years or so, kind of as he
has, as Wahlberg, has maybestruggled to really find like

(02:11:55):
maybe a franchise to attach toor whatever that you feel like
you could have seen him in?
That would have worked reallywell, like, I think, kind of
opening the show with thethought that, like in some
alternative universe, markwalberg is ethan hunt, almost
you know right, like is there?
Is there something else outthere that you feel like maybe
there's a sliding doors momenton that he missed.

Speaker 3 (02:12:18):
I think it's really interesting.
He has never done like asuperhero property.

Speaker 2 (02:12:24):
That's a great point, and I think I wonder what his
stance is on that.
I wonder if he's just neverbeen approached, or what.

Speaker 3 (02:12:31):
But I think he could have done anything Chris Pratt
does in the Marvel Universe.

Speaker 2 (02:12:37):
Or in the Jurassic movies Star Lord or the Jurassic
movies.

Speaker 3 (02:12:41):
I think anything Chris Pratt has done.
I think you could have pluggedWahlberg in.
I love that call.

Speaker 1 (02:12:46):
I don't know that I would love him in a role like
that, though I think a lot ofthe movies of his that I do love
so much is when he has thisedge to him, and some of those
roles just feel a little toowholesome to me and I think he
plays this kind of like she's soright because in re-watching
his movies and thinking abouthis best performances, we've yet

(02:13:07):
to bring this up in almost liketwo hours worth of material
here.

Speaker 2 (02:13:10):
The man is a phenomenal cursor yeah and so if
he can't be saying fuck you orwhatever, like talking shit, so
often, you know, especially tolike his co-workers.

Speaker 1 (02:13:21):
You know he's, he's on the rig like yeah talking
shit with.
And then you know, like hisboston nature like really shines
through a lot and he plays,like you know, he, he does a
really good texas man.
He does a really good Texas man.
He does a really good Southernman, east Coast guy.
You know what I mean.
I like him with a little bit ofedge, so I don't know that I

(02:13:41):
would even.
I mean I think that he couldeasily do a superhero or
something like Chris Pratt, butI just don't know I would like
him in it.
I think it would be moremainstream where I would be like
I'm not, it doesn't, it didn'tdo it for me okay, I know we're
about.

Speaker 2 (02:13:57):
I know what I'm about to say is sacrilegious, because
I'm I'm asking to maybe replaceone of the best performances of
the 21st century.
What if you put walberg in thejeremy renner role from the town
?

Speaker 1 (02:14:09):
oh my god yeah, it works.

Speaker 2 (02:14:11):
I think that works, I think I I think he's a little
too old, right, jem needs to bewhat do you have been, though,
and like he would have been inhis early 40s playing that role
still maybe a little too oldyeah, I don't know, renner feels
like such a little I mean, I'mtelling you renner was little
perfect in that movie.

Speaker 3 (02:14:31):
Yeah could he do?
Could he have done the affleckpart?

Speaker 1 (02:14:37):
see, I don't think so no I like him as the hothead,
the guy with edge, the guy who'spopping off, who's like the
loose cannon, the wow card it'sso hard to imagine him or like
to even see him in roles wherehe's not like the the hero you
know, or like I.
I think that he is such alovable, like gritty hero, you

(02:14:59):
know, like a working man, butlike I'm a good guy, you know,
and so I don't know I I, butthat's funny.
I was thinking about the townwhen we were talking about
contraband, um, and like they'retwo years apart but they're
still very like oh, they talk toeach other a lot do you think?

Speaker 2 (02:15:18):
in like five or ten years.
Do you think he could be like?
Could he have some sort of likeharrison ford type career in
five or ten years where he playslike jack ryan or just like the
president in a movie, you know?

Speaker 3 (02:15:32):
I don't know if he could ever be, ah, the president
.

Speaker 2 (02:15:36):
That'd be really interesting like in a tom clancy
type of story or somethingmaybe yeah, like air force one
yeah, I was.
You know, air force one wouldbe a great call.
The first thing I thought wasdie hard.

Speaker 3 (02:15:49):
Like I think he would be perfect if if they were ever
to redo that movie.

Speaker 2 (02:15:55):
Like him and bruce willis have a lot in common I
agree with that, yes, um, okay,I need to circle back to mile 22
real quick, because one of thewe're on mile 22 of this podcast
, I I need to ask you becauseyou, you say this all the time
where does the quote say helloto your mother?

Speaker 3 (02:16:14):
for me, quote say hello to your mother for me,
come from, say hello to yourmother.
For me, that's from theHappening.
So that's when the Happeningcame out.
Okay, andy Samberg on SNL playsWahlberg in a skit where he is
talking to animals.

Speaker 2 (02:16:29):
Okay, and he's going oh, hi goat, I've seen this.
Okay, yes, how you been.
Say hi to your mother for me.
Here's how mile 22 ends adouble agent who shows his hand,
who reveals his cards at thevery end of the film, after
walberg has just busted his assto get him through this hostile

(02:16:53):
war zone for 90 minutes.
Wahlberg's an orphan at thefilm.
This guy knows that Wahlberg'sparents died when he was young,
his brothers died when he wasyoung, and all this stuff.
This guy's about to get on aplane after being released out
of custody.
He's home free, he's gottenwhat he wants.
And he turns to Mark Wahlbergand he says say hello to your

(02:17:15):
mother for me.
Wow, yeah, that's, that's kingshit, and I was blown away.
Well, I was like what a momentof of of meta, just like meta
screenwriting.

Speaker 3 (02:17:31):
I I guess walberg's, he's he's, he's a great sport,
because that sandberg and thenhe repeats it to himself.
He goes.
What did you say to me, AndySandberg?
That bit, I think like, livedon for like a couple weeks in a
row.
And then Wahlberg came on theshow as like just like someone
in the hall backstage and waslike hi, andy, how's it going?

(02:18:01):
Say hello to your mother for meokay and like was in on the
whole thing okay, so it's such agood sport however, you said
the word plane which made methink of the movie, plane which
made me think any part gerardbutler has done in the past 10
years and I thought about thisas well with, like, the olympus
has fallen, yes, yes, it's beengreat with walbert yeah, walbert
in plane would have beenfantastic, right, granted,

(02:18:23):
gerard butler, you know, isfantastic anyway and I don't
need to replace him but, ifthere was like think of walbert
as big nick in den of Things.

Speaker 2 (02:18:34):
I love that.
I love that he doesn't have thesize.
I don't actually know if I lovethat In theory, I love that he
doesn't have the size, but alsoget the four brothers' slicked
back hair back.
He does have a lot of thatenergy as Bobby Mercer Gosh.
What a career.
Thanks for shepherding usthrough it, Erica.

(02:18:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:18:57):
I'm going to go get a Wahlburger.

Speaker 1 (02:18:59):
Oh man, if only we had a Wahlburger here.
Well, yeah, this was fun.
I want to do more actorrankings episodes.
We do a lot of director onesand I love those, but I want to
highlight, like highlight moreactors careers.
This was fun to go through.
You know we could.
There's plenty of people thatwe could have an amazing film

(02:19:22):
catalog.
So, thank you, yeah, this wasso fun.
All right, so that concludesour episode.
Thanks for tuning in.
Next week we're going to do our.
We're going to start our Oscarscoverage by going through the
last 24 years, the Best Picturewinners and we're going to rank
them.
So that will be next week'sepisode.

(02:19:43):
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