Movie News: Thunderbolts, New Trailers and Cannes Film Festival Begins!

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
How's it?
I'm Alex McCauley.
I'm Max Fosberg and I'm EricaKrause and this is excuse the
intermission a discussion showsurrounding new beginnings.
It's our first virtualrecording as a full team since
Max's big move to Los Angeles.
We will get a full update onhis new surroundings, have a
discussion about another newchapter in the Marvel Cinematic
Universe, talk a little bitabout some recent trailers and

(00:32):
catch up on everything elsemovie related A busy episode
that gets underway on the otherside of this break.
Alright, guys, welcome to thenew normal, if you will.
This feels like a pandemicthrowback seeing you both over
StreamYard.
We love StreamYard and thiswill give us an opportunity to
post a lot more content tosocial media, youtube and all

(00:53):
those video platforms.
But I miss you guys.
The studio feels a little emptyright now.
Max, erica and I had the chanceto do a dry run of this last
week, but let's hear what yournew setup looks like and how
things are going for you overthere.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, new setup actually really started today.
The moving truck, you know, wegot here on the 1st of May and
the moving truck just showed uptoday, which is what, the 13th
of May now.
So happy to have a bed, happyto have a dining room table,
happy to have my desk, but yeah,I'm just kind of tucked away in

(01:33):
a corner of the living room.
I got the beautiful sun behindme and the deck.
If the takes are too scalding,hot, hot, I can jump outside for
some fresh air.
Um, but yeah, things, thingsare coming together.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I, I I don't think the takes will get any cooler
outside.
You're in the belly of thebeast that's, that's very true
be worse.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
That's very true um, I do have a dilemma.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I have no idea what to do with my movies or how to
display them like the physicalmedia set up.
What the situation, what?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
it's, it's tough.
I've got no, I've.
You know, we couldn't bring upin washington.
We had like this giant oldantique hutch that we stuck all
our movies in.
There was no way we were makingthat down, like I mean we could
have maybe put it on the truck,but like it was just too big.
It was too big so we let it go.

(02:30):
We had a good friend who wantedit.
So yeah, I just have like fourboxes of just movies sitting in
the middle of my living roomright now.
I don't know, I might juststack them on the floor, you
know, and and just it's just acity of of dvds, uh, on the
floor, I don't know you could belike the guy in um, unfaithful

(02:55):
that that, um, that diane startsher affair with you, know, and
he's got the books everywhere inhis house.
That could just be just d.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, Um, I don't know if it gives off the same
intellectual vibe but it shouldit should.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, it depends on on the uh, on the selection, I
guess.
Right, it depends what I putout front in here.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, um, yeah, that's tough.
That's, that's tough.
I sympathize with you, um, inthat situation, because it's not
like you're going to.
Please don't become a CDbooklet guy no no, no, you can't
take him out of the case.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
The case is everything.
Hey, my CD booklet is very niceand handy.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
No, no, I need the plastic.
What am I going to float onwhen the flood happens?
You know I can tape all thosetogether and make a raft.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I already go ahead.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I need DVD cases just to be more aesthetically
pleasing.
I need every DVD that I own tobe like like criterion
collection level aesthetic, orelse it's not going anywhere in
my living space.
No offense boys, but it messeswith my vibe too much.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
No, there's definitely a.
There's a different feng shuithat the blue plastic case gives
off compared to a nice steelbook or like, uh, you know the
hard.
I know what you're talkingabout with the criterion uh,
slip covers sometimes like that,that nice hard, um, it's not
really cardboard, just likethick paper, um but yeah, it's
more like a book yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
It looks a lot more like a book exactly if I had a
designated movie room orsomething I would happily
display my my media, but I don'tyet.
So someday I'll have my ownprivate in-home theater and
it'll all be on display, but fornow it goes in my booklet all

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right, so let's let's hear aboutsome of the other updates that
come along with the move to losangeles.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
How many movies have you gone out and seen, how, how,
how is the, the culture, the,the movie scene, so to speak, um
down there, and do you havelike a new favorite theater?
Are there still places you wantto check out what's been going
on?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
So, yeah, I think I was telling Erica this, uh,
before we, before we jumped on,to record I think I've been down
here 13 days.
On to record, I think, whatI've been down here, 13 days, 12
days, I think I've been in atheater at least seven, six or
seven days, so at least halfhalf the days I've been down
here I've been in a theater.
Um, there is just, there's somuch, there's there's so much

(05:39):
movies, there's so many moviesgoing on every, every, every day
.
There are so many awesomelittle theaters I've been to.
The Vista is walking distanceto my apartment and so already
I've kind of adopted that as mynew home theater.
I've been there twice now.

(06:02):
I saw Quentin Tarantino there.
Of course he owns that theater,so you know, sometimes he goes
and watches the movies there,but that was quite a crazy
experience.
I think that was like day threeof being in LA and you, you
know, watch a movie with QuentinTarantino.
That's just very LA.

(06:23):
I've also met some some greatfilmmakers there Went and saw
that new, uh Andrew DeYoungmovie Friendship and uh, shout
out to Daniel, he's a comedyfilmmaker who I was uh had the
pleasure to sit next to.
Uh, it was on Mother's Day, andat the end of the film he

(06:45):
revealed to me that he and hismom were there.
He had his mom's ashes in hisbag because she loved going to
the movies which was like bothvery, very sweet and extremely
creepy.
But you know, that's, that'skind of the kind of the

(07:06):
eccentric people you you meet inLA, I guess.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
That's a hell of a nice breaker.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I thought he was joking at first and then and
then you know he was veryserious.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Really nice, daniel.
I mean you just got to put outthe energy that you're trying to
attract.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Really nice, daniel.
I mean, you just got to put outthe energy that you're trying
to attract.
Absolutely, absolutely, um whatelse?
I've been to brain dead studiosthat's over in West Hollywood,
or as the locals call it.
We ho, we ho, I'm like I getthat right.
Um went and saw heat ourbeloved heat, uh, which was
amazing on on the big screen.

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A packed theater.
That's the other thing.
Every movie I've been to justpacked Just people to the front
of the theaters.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Erica looks like a proud older cousin right now who
has experienced all this stuffand she's hearing about it,
reliving her glory days.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I miss the packed theaters so much it's really fun
even when I moved from la toaustin, going to alamo draft
house, all the time the theaterswere always packed.
Yeah and um, yeah.
And then that didn't happen indenver but, yeah, I mean, I just

(08:27):
I would die for a packedtheater, like consistently, not
like just once in a blue moonfor some big.
Even when we saw sinners, therewas like what, like 10 people
there.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
You know, like I need to be filled to the brim yeah,
erica I I I did have my firstalamo experience and how was it?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
tell us all about it listen, two out of ten.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Uh, the food made me sick, the food made kaylee sick.
I thought the theater was kindof small.
I thought the attendant waspretty rude.
Uh, tough, tough.
It was a tough first alamoexperience.
Uh, I was really lookingforward to it.
We went to another dine-intheater called look, I believe

(09:17):
look theaters, I think that'swhat it was called and uh, that
one was like kind of, I think upin like Burbank area, a lot
better, a lot better, a lotnicer, a lot bigger.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if you've everbeen to that Alamo downtown LA.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I have once, and so my experience with Alamo is not.
I've gone to Alamo and everycity I've lived in, obviously,
except for Washington, but whenI lived it was right before I
moved, at the very end of 2019.
Alamo, downtown LA, had openedup like it was very new and I

(09:56):
remember, yes, being very smalland just not really like I
didn't really know.
Well, I had been to Alamo oncebefore in austin, when I went to
visit before I moved there, andI had an amazing experience.
It was so fun.
I was like, oh my gosh, this isso cool.
And then, yeah, the one in lawas like it was okay, it's like
that you have to go to the southlamar location in austin, texas

(10:21):
, and that, because that's likeI'm pretty sure that's their og
alamo reptiles is is texas, youknow, and um it, it really is
amazing there.
And then, even when I went toalamo in denver just recently,
even my, it was very just, itwas okay.

(10:44):
I mean I don't want to likeshit on alamo, but I've just had
some really great experiencesin austin as opposed to like
other places.
So I'm sorry that sucks uh,yeah, it was cool.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
I got to see a new david cronenberg movie on on the
screen that was pretty.
Other incredible theaters there, oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, I
still need to go to, uh, theegyptian.
Uh, I definitely want to golike on the studio lots and see
the movies there.
Um, I also went to the los uh,feliz three, uh which is a very

(11:21):
like historic old theater,really really cool.
That's the other cool thingabout these.
I mean, all these places arevery historic but like
everywhere is showing stuff onfilm, which is a really cool
experience, and it is adifferent experience from your
regular digital projection.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Like it is, I don't know, it's just a bit more
enriching, uh, which is, youknow, very, very silly to say,
because who knows if it actuallyis, but it's fun tell us about,
like, how, like what you'reexperiencing down there, as far
as like film promotions too,because when I lived there, like

(12:03):
you had texted us before, likethere was, you know they're
advertising for finaldestination all over the place,
every corner, every bus stop,every you know.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
When you're driving around the city, all you're
looking at are as advertisementsfor shows or movies.
Uh, and it's just, it's justwonderful.
It's just wonderful, it's justit feel, it makes you feel good
while you're driving around.
It's either those two things,or like weird scientology
posters.
Um, I live very, very close tothe scientology headquarters,

(12:38):
the big blue building I livedright across from the celebrity
center in Los Feliz, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Literally right across the street.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, so that's really interesting to walk by
and experience and look at everyday.
But yeah, there's, I mean, yeah, blood like something like
Final Destination.
You know it and I don't know.
I'm sure maybe we'll touch onit later, but like early word is

(13:07):
one of the one of the bestmovies in the series coming uh,
which is really exciting.
So that that's really cool.
But you are, you are just like,yeah, you are uh, uh, pressured
in the paint here.
You know, with with all ofthese movies, thunderbolt stuff,
um, like I said, bloodlinesthis.

(13:29):
Did you guys know there's alike an Indiana Jones style
adventure movie starring JohnKrasinski, coming out next
weekend called fountain of youth, and Natalie Portman John
Krasinski, natalie Portmancalled fountain of youth.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Um, didn't know about that until I moved here I'll be
curious if you see any fun likesometimes they'll do like
really interactive advertisingall over la, like I remember
when it came out and they hadlike red balloons, like just
random places.
Yeah, la is really cool, likeyou really are, like in, you're

(14:11):
in the heart of it all Right,and they, they definitely make
you aware of it.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I did see some some Reddit video or Instagram video
where Sebastian Stan was runningaround LA putting up posters of
the Thunderbolts, but with itsnew title.
I don't know if you guys havebeen spoiled with that, but uh,
but yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah,there's, I mean there's, there's
tons of things, just it'salways in your face.

(14:37):
I found a really cool um videostore today.
Uh, like a rental, it's arental house, but also sells
stuff Just like decked from youknow floor to ceiling and in
DVDs, blu-rays, 4ks, VHSs it was.
It had like the old, even likethe like the shelving was very

(15:00):
blockbuster and like the, theflooring was like that old
carpet with with like little youknow star drawings on it and
like the you know the galaxy orwhatever.
Um, yeah, very cool, very coolshop over there.
And uh, where was?
I think that was toluca lake orburbank or somewhere over the

(15:21):
hills.
But uh, yeah, man, it's, it'sit, it's, it's been wild, it's
been really fun to explore and Ihonestly haven't even like
gotten to a lot of it.
Uh, have yet to go to vidiots.
Uh, that's on the list.
Uh, I got to find somethingthere that nothing, just none of
the, none of the showings havereally stood out to me yet, but
um, but yeah, it's, it's been,it's been really, really, really

(15:45):
fun.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Good.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, that's awesome.
That's.
That's really cool to hear.
I wonder if you'll I bet thatbeing so green for the next I
don't know month, six months,maybe first year I wonder if
you'll really be keen to pick upon some people and maybe this
is the Alamo, the reasoning forthe Alamo experience, or maybe
you'll start to see it elsewhere.

(16:09):
But just because you are at theepicenter of movie making and
of movie culture, that, likefolks that are just working at
Alamo because it's a job, theydon't have that same passion.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Right, it's not as pretty and yeah, right, like job
, they don't have that samepassion that you would expect
them to.
You know, it's not as prettyand yeah, right, like, yeah, it
doesn't have that glow, thatsame glow that we see it with
right.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I mean, I even think about I wish this is random, but
I thought of it as you weretalking Like the last time I
went in to a Starbucks, I wasthinking when we were in high
school it used to like thishappens.
I was thinking when we were inhigh school it used to like this
I'm so stupid and vapid, butlike it used to mean something
to like work at Starbucks.
And now you go into like aStarbucks and you're like what

(16:53):
sort of work release program dothey have going on here?
It's just like anybody isserving you coffee and I don't
know.
Not that you have to have thatpersonal touch behind basic
customer service, interpersonalinteractions and relationships,
but you do want someone to makeit feel special for you while

(17:14):
you're there doing somethingthat you're paying money to
invest in this experience.
And so that is a bummer aboutthe first Alamo experience

(17:45):
no-transcript something thathappens.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
You know the academy museum theater right like yeah,
I I went to the academy museumuh on gosh was that last last
wednesday, I think.
Um, because they have a.
They have a really great BonJovi uh exhibit going open right
now.
Uh, really really cool and uhjust like tons of his uh

(18:16):
storyboards.
He's god, he's so freakingdetailed.
Uh, for all of his movies Eachwall is a different one of his
movies, but yeah, that place isstunning and I look forward to
when I get to go see somethingin their theater.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well, I'm glad that you mentioned Thunderbolts
because, transitioning into somemovie news now, I would say the
most noteworthy box officething to report on within the
last two weeks since we've beenapart is the surprise hit that
Marvel released over the firstweekend of the month.
So Thunderbolts has now satatop the box office for two

(18:58):
weekends in a row and is at $130million domestically and $273
million worldwide.
We can hypothesize the reasonfor the film's financial success
here in a minute.
But, max, that is also one ofthe films that I know you've
made it out to see in your newstomping grounds down there.
So talk to us a little bitabout the critical response to

(19:19):
this film because, based off ofyour Letterboxd review, I
believe you found some redeemingqualities to to the movie, and
you don't seem to be alone inthat thinking well, it's just
not.
It's just not bad, right likeit's, it's not listen, I'm not
gonna sad that that's thestandard now, but but sure but I
mean think about, think aboutthe last five, six releases that

(19:40):
you know, maybe, maybe otherthan Wakanda, forever, you know
Marvel.
Which was still kind of thesame like lukewarm.
It's not bad.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
It's not bad.
And Thunderbolts is very muchon the same level with Wakanda
Forever.
Like, it's just not bad.
Like it's Florence Pugh, it'sDavid Harbour, sebastian Stan
and Wyatt Russell.
Like, we're having a lot of funwith these.
These actors are having fun.
Um, there's decent action.
It's not too big a stakes.

(20:11):
Um, it's it's not CGI heavy,it's not any sort of like
science fiction.
It's very grounded as far as,like, these heroes are kind of
just people who beat, who punchother people.
Um, there's no, like you know,there's no Thor and magical
hammer or anything like that.

(20:32):
Uh, you know there's no spaceyou have to go to.
So, yeah, I don't know, I, I, Ithought it was, I thought it
was fine with.
That was a good action movie.
Um, again, just wasn't bad, itwasn't overproduced.
You could also really tell thatthey're not shooting on a green

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screen, that they are in a citystreet or they are in Utah, in
the desert.
We're actually on location andthat just makes such a
difference, such a difference.
Um, and David Harbor is isreally funny when you know he
puts on a Russian accent andacts like a buffoon.

(21:13):
Uh, he, he's, he's really goodat that.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
So, erica, we talked a little bit about this last
week, but now that we've beenable to digest two weeks worth
of reporting on it, what do youthink the reason for this is?
Do you think it's because itcould it be as simple as just
like florence pew can open amajor movie?
Um, or do you think there'smore to it than that?
Is it maybe?
Oh, because it's been somewhatof a weak movie year, um, or?

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Or are people chasing the highcoming off of Sinners, perhaps,
like they were just in thetheaters?
They see Sinners advertisedwhile they're in the movies, or
while they're at the movies, andthey're like let's go back next
weekend.
I don't know.
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I think all of those are really good like valid
points and you know verypossible reasons why it is
seeing a lot of success.
I think from what I've beenseeing I know a lot of people
have been liking the fact thatthey're like really touching on
mental health and that it seemsit just feels kind of like a
different, more realistic Marvelmovie.

(22:20):
I don't even know like what thatmeans, but um, I mean, harrison
Ford isn't turning into a giantred hulk, exactly right yeah, I
I haven't seen thunderbolts yet, um, and I and I even, you know
, when max and I went and sawsinners, I even turned to him,
like during the trailer forthunderbolts, and I was like I
like, why do I want to see this?

(22:41):
Like it actually looks kind offun.
Like, why do I want to see this?
Like it actually looks kind offun.
I think that, like, of course,florence Pugh is a very
well-loved actress and you knowshe's got a huge fan base.
I think people love to see herleading a movie anyway, and I

(23:01):
know David Harbour has a goodfan base as well.
I think they think they've gotlike a fun cast going for them,
for sure.
But then, yeah, what I've seena lot of talk about is this like
mental health, uh aspect to thefilm that they're like not
shying away from, um, and kindof.
I mean, I don't really know thecontext, so maybe max can speak

(23:24):
on that better, but, um, I knowthat I've just seen that that
particular fact, fact mentionedso frequently.
Um, and you know this, to methis movie feels like um,
marvel's, like suicide squad, um, so so maybe they're just

(23:45):
excited to see kind of like aband of misfits in a role like
that, where it's not like asuperhero Like Bucky, is very
well loved, also in the Marveluniverse, so that could help as
well.
I mean, I don't know, I justthink it's different for them.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
So yeah, I think you, I just think it's different for
them.
So, yeah, I think you know itreminded me some of, like, the
first time I saw Guardians ofthe Galaxy.
Right, but it's not quite asflashy as Guardians, right, but,
you're right, misfits comingtogether.
The mental health aspect of thefilm, I think, is just

(24:26):
universal enough.
Right, it's a pretty broadmental health thing, not that
that makes it less or more thanany sort of mental health issue,
but, yeah, I think it'sprobably broad enough for, yeah,

(24:48):
a lot of people to relate to.
Um, and you know it, yeah, I, Ido think florence pew has also
like gotten to a point where she, she kind of is, you know,
she's becoming a movie starwhere she can open a film.
You know, I think we saw it alittle bit with Live in Time

(25:09):
last year too, right, that had agood box office for the type of
film that it is.
And you know, of course you hadAndrew Garfield as well.
But I feel like Florence Pughis kind of getting to that level
where it's like you put hername at the top of the poster
and people are going to show up.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
People just love her, like outside of film too.
You know she's a verywell-liked person.
You know she's very present in,like you know, social media and
lots of you know her interviewsare always super entertaining.
I just think that there's not alot of.
You know she doesn't have a lotof haters, uh.

(25:47):
So I, somebody like that, whohas a strong like public
presence, um, is gonna naturallydraw in a pretty large fan base
um to their films yeah, shedefinitely does everything that
a movie star needs to do to be acelebrity in 2025.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
And david harbour is a lot.
You say that, a lot of the samethings about him.
He is as as sort of uh, youknow, like the the fun drunk
uncle type of figure to a lot ofpeople, and that's based off of
his work in stranger things and, um, what was the santa movie
that came out?

(26:28):
a couple years ago that becamelike a year or whatever violent
night maybe that it sort ofbecame an instant cult classic
like he has, that he has so muchcharisma to his work that I
think that that works as well.
also, I just I feel like, withhaving a run of stinkers there,
marvel really put a lot into themarketing of this film and

(26:51):
they're actually seeing that payreal dividends right now,
because I can't watch an NBAplayoff game right now without
seeing like five differentThunderbolts, ads or commercials
or banners that run across thescoreboard on the actual court,
so like they are doing a ton tomarket this film right now, and
so I'm sure that, whatever thebudget is, they spent half, if

(27:13):
not more, of that on themarketing as well, and so you
always like to see when thatactually pays off for a film and
you actually in in the studioactually like backing their
product, whereas like with Idon't know captain america,
whatever the one was they cameout earlier this year.
It felt like once that moviewas released they just backed

(27:34):
away they wanted nothing to dowith it well, yeah, I think they
knew right.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
they knew that it's a probably a lesser film than, uh
, something like thunderbolts.
I I think also there's a littlebit of like old school Marvel
feeling here, because you watchThunderbolts it's contained to
one movie.
We're not worried about anysort of like multiverse, you
know bigger universe thing, butthen it does have a, you know,

(27:59):
an end credit scene that leadsyou, you know an end credit
scene that leads you directlyinto what the next movie is
going to be, and so like that,you know, I think, is also good
too, because for a while therein stuff like Love and Thunder
and the Eternals and you know,quantumania, we were getting end

(28:22):
credit scenes of just likerandom characters that are
probably never, ever going tocome on screen again, and so
like, like, here's the voice ofblade right, right here's the
voice Never going to have ablade movie.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Here's.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Harry Styles dressed as star Fox or whatever, or, uh,
the guy from you know, tedLasso as Hercules and like that.
It's just I, I don't think anyof that stuff is ever going to
come back, and so that too, Ithink, also kind of again almost
grounds the movie within thisweird movie universe no, it all

(28:59):
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Um, and it's definitely piqued my interest as
well.
It's not to say that I'm goingto rush out and see it anytime
soon, but once it does becomeavailable on disney plus, like
I'll support anything.
Florence p is a part of yeah Ithink that's a lot of.
That's kind of the sentimentaround the film yeah as of right
now.
Uh, okay, so there's.
There's a lot of other movienews, including some trailers,
that I want us to all touch onhere.

(29:23):
I sent out a list, so if wecould kind of do some reactions
to some of these, I broke mycardinal rule of actually
watching trailers for thissegment.
So it, which was actually kindof fun, it was fun to watch,
especially the teaser trailersthat we got for some of these
films, to be able to actuallylike get even more excited for

(29:45):
something that I was alreadyanticipating, like heist to Lois
.
So we'll start there.
Um, this is obviously the newSpike Lee film that we're
getting this summer, starringDenzel Washington.
I believe it's the sixth filmthat they will be collaborating
on.
Most recently, we saw them worktogether in inside man, a

(30:07):
fantastic film, but of course,this goes all the way back to
malcolm x and mo betta blues andhe got game.
So something that is tried andtrue, this partnership between
actor and director.
It's a remake of an akirakurosawa film and I must say the
teaser trailer just looks coolas fuck.
Like there's there's nothingthat really gets spoiled, I

(30:30):
don't think in the movie itobviously looks like it's going
to be a re-imagining of the plotfrom high to low.
But I don't know what did youguys think of this movie, or at
least of this movie's teasertrailer?
Because I was like, okay, Iknow it's gonna be cool, I know
it's gonna be slick, but somehowit exceeded all those
expectations is this the appletv one?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
yes um, yeah, I mean I think it looks fun.
I I don't really have it's notreally my go-to movie, I don't
think but I thought that teaserI had seen it actually on Apple
TV recently when I was watchingone of my beloved shows and yeah

(31:14):
, it definitely piqued myinterest.
I mean it looks like a goodApple TV action movie.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
The word that I thought of was was high energy
Like it is.
The energy is is really thereand that's something you know.
Listen Spike Lee and Denzel youknow not young men anymore and
Denzel looks like 10 yearsyounger in this, in this film,

(31:45):
and I think you can feel thatenergy from this trailer that
there's going to be some buzzaround it.
I was just talking to a friendtoday at lunch about this film.
Because Apple, so it's comingto theaters.
Because Apple, so it's comingto theaters, I believe the end

(32:06):
of August, like the last weekend, august 22nd.
Yeah, for one week, and thenLabor Day weekend it goes on to
the Apple streaming service,which is just insane, absolutely
insane, is it?

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Labor Day weekend or is it like September 6th?
I think it gets like a two-weektheater run, but still, your
point is taken.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, I think it's the weekend of Labor Day
whenever that is, and so justinsane because when you look at,
go back and look at DenzelWashington crime movies, even
something that is not hailed aslike a really great film,

(32:48):
something like two guns, I think, I believe even the lowest of
those movies make at least 150million in theaters.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
And so we just talked about Florence Pugh as being
someone who's like starting toget to the point to open movies.
We know that.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Denzel, yes, so I, just I, I'm really really
excited.
Uh, I'm also, you know, I, Ifeel really lucky because, like
again, I'm, this, this movie'sonly going to be in theaters for
one or two weeks, you know, I'm, I'm, it's definitely going to
be here in LA, so I can, Icannot wait to go see it.

(33:25):
And, uh, I don't know if I'veever seen a Spike Lee movie I
mean, I've seen, you know, dothe right thing in a theater,
but a new release.
I don't know if I've ever seenone in the in a theater.
Um, I don't think I saw blackKlansman in a theater and that I
feel like that would be thelast one I would have gone and
seen.
You know, the five bloods wason Netflix, so, um, yeah, so

(33:49):
very, very excited, uh, but yeah, high energy around it and,
like I, I'm in New York.
The rap scene, you know, denzel, is some sort of mogul, you
know, maybe a little Jay-Z, likeyes, yes, sign me up.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Just the monologue that he has in the trailer and
the voiceover work.
It is such a mixture, thiswonderful cocktail of like
things we've heard him say inTraining Day, things we've heard
him say in American Gangster,and then you put this
contemporary spin on it.
I just I couldn't be moreexcited.

(34:29):
And the some of the things thatI've been worried about is like
the stunt casting of asap rocky.
Well, it looks like asap rockyis going to basically be playing
himself, so I'm okay with that.
I'd rather it be somebody withlived experience as opposed to.
You know, I always think of umlike ben affleck talking about
armageddon and his conversationwith michael bay, where he's

(34:50):
like why wouldn't you just trainastronauts to become drillers,
as opposed to drillers to oilmen to become astronauts?
Right, like if, if you have arapper in your movie, like let
we saw this work with uncut gemsin the weekend, where, like,
let's just cast a musician.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
That was the other movie.
I was kind of getting vibes ofright Like, and again it's the
setting.
I think it's a lot of thecutting in the in the trailer
and and the energy of it.
It feels it feels like that.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Uh, the line in the trailer that I could not get
over is when he's when he'stalking about can you handle the
hype, can you handle theattention, can you handle the
spotlight?
And he says can you handle thememes?
I loved it I loved that line.
I thought it was incredible.
Um so, yes, can you handle thememes?

(35:42):
I don't know there.
There will certainly be memessurrounding this film.
Um, very excited for highest tolowest.
Okay, the next one here is thesophomore feature film from
Celine song.
Of course, celine gave us pastlives two years ago, an
incredible film.
This is her follow-up semi-lovetriangle.

(36:03):
It seems that stars pedro,pascal, erica's boy, dakota,
johnson, my girl and max.
I guess that means you're leftwith chris evans, but we love
chris evans, you'll take chris.
Uh what?
What did we think of this one?
Because I had not seen anything.
Um, had been trying my hardestto stay away from from any sort

(36:24):
of spoilers, and then I watchedthe trailer and once again felt
very good about where we wereheaded with this one.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Pedro Pascal?
Uh, it just in everything,every single thing right now.
Are we, are we getting a littletoo over, pedro, like over?
Are we too overexposed here?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I think you know I defer to Erica on that one.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, erica, she has all the Pedro stock.
He's got this.
He's the next big thing inMarvel that's also coming out in
July.
He's, you know, the Mandalorian.
He's all over Last of Us.
He's in the Apple commercialdirected by spike Jones.
That's a lot of Pedro.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, he's definitely having his moment and I think
that people are deaf or usinghis um, his internet moment.
I mean he's like the internet'sdaddy right now.
You know that's he's justhaving this, this moment, and
like this might sound reallyshocking.

(37:32):
I love him so much, you know,but I don't think that he's like
an incredible actor.
But I will say when I saw thetrailer for Materialist I about
how to conniption fit, so we arein a good way okay we are so
back with rom-coms and you knowI saw I was I've been trying to

(37:55):
like I, I watched it and I Ionly watched it like one time,
all the way through, because Icould not turn away from it, um,
because I also love chris evansand so I was like kill me, um.
But I I was seeing a lot of talkabout how people were saying

(38:15):
that, like you know the with thevoiceover guy, you know who's
like, you know the the movievoice yeah, yeah exactly and, um
, people are like, oh my god,rom-coms are so back, like my,
you know, growing up in the inthe early 2000s and like the era

(38:40):
of rom-coms, really like thisfeels really reminiscent of that
.
I'm sure it's going to be, Idon't know.
I have high hopes, consideringthat Celine Song is directing
this, because I was not a hugefan of Past Lives.
I thought it was a reallybeautiful movie.

(39:00):
It just didn't really do awhole lot for me.
Um, this looks so differentthan that, you know, like past
lives was so serious and like umsoft, and this just feels like
a like this feels like I'm inthe early 2000s and we're doing
a rom-com.
Like you know, jacoda johnsonis a matchmaker and, um, you

(39:22):
know, of course, she's neverfound love herself.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
We need this.
We need this, I know.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
And I love it.
I love shit like that.
You know it's corny, but Ithink it's in the right hands,
so I'm all in.
I've been all in for this movie.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, a mid-budget original story by you, an auteur
, filmmaker, I mean.
I will also say chris evansreally needs this, needs this to
hit he.
The guy hasn't done anythingreally since captain america
except like some crappy, youknow, netflix movies.

(40:02):
He really, really, really needsthis.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, I think that we need this as a collective.
I think Chris Evans needs itand I do think that because
there is a tone shift it.
It seems like I think Celinesong she doesn't need this, but
I think it's exciting that she'salready throwing like she's
still going out there with herstarting stuff, you know like

(40:28):
we've seen what her fastballlooks like, but she's she's not
pigeonholing herself into makingthat like super serious type of
film that will get her like thedirector version of typecast.
It's just making, like you know,a sad, sweeping romantic drama.
It's like, okay, because thismovie feels so self-aware.

(40:51):
When I was watching the trailer, I was like, do they get what
they're doing right now?
And I'm like, oh, theyabsolutely get what they're
doing right now, even just theway that the trailer is cut and
and presented, and so I I dolove that about it.
I would say that dakota johnsonneeds this too, coming off of
coming off of Madam Web, butDakota Johnson knew what she was
doing with Madam.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Web, so she doesn't need this.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Dakota Johnson's untouchable, and so I am really,
really excited for this filmand also, too, for the fact that
it's not going at least, Idon't expect it to be.
But this isn't going for anyawards bait.
This isn't going to try to be afollow-up to past lives in that

(41:31):
sense where it's like I'm goingto try and outdo what I did on
my last film that was sosuccessful.
So again, just all around greenflags.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
It feels like it's for the like for the fans.
You know, it feels like it'sfor the like for the fans.
You know, like I know that Isee a lot of talk on social
media just how we as womenespecially, really want like the
resurgence of rom-coms and likethat, how we felt in the early
2000s and how we all just kindof gravitate towards that.

(42:02):
And it's almost like celine waslistening and she's like I'm
gonna like, like you said, thisis not trying to be like
anything more than it really is,I mean, who knows, but
especially with the presence ofthe movie guy, you know, like
the trailer guy or whatever heit does, feel like this is just

(42:24):
for this is for fun, this is afun.
Like there's a big community on,you know, on online right now,
of women who are really intolike contemporary romance, you
know, and we see that in likethe book talk community and we
all are kind of searching forthese fun like really

(42:47):
light-hearted romance storiesand we're kind of getting that
from books right now and so it'sit's almost like celine was
like noted, I'm gonna make amovie like that.
That just feels a little cornyand a little unrealistic and you
know you've got this likeperfect man who's like older and
rich and and everything, and itjust it's like so, uh, book

(43:13):
coded right now, like especiallythe, if you like, were tapped
into, like what books arepopular right now too, with
women and um, and and you know,I'm not saying men can't read
these books, you, you know, like, I think that it really feels
like she's paying attention,which is what.
That's where it's excitingabout this movie.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Yeah, and I think, I think it's a great.
It'll be a great test case forthat mid budget adult film.
Right, if people come out, ifErica, if you, you, you take all
your friends to this, you knowsix times we're gonna get more
movies like this.
So let's, let's, get out in thetheaters.

(43:55):
I'll be there, for sure well,exactly she, celine.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Not only I think you're exactly right, erica,
she's taking all that stuff toheart and she's saying I'm gonna
put you know, like I'm puttingall my cards out there on the
table with this one.
It's going to be with, like bigmovie stars.
It's going to be in theaters.
This isn't going to be likethem making a Bridget Jones
sequel.
They go straight to HBO, max orsomething like that.

(44:21):
Like this is going to be amovie that hopefully opens big
nationwide.
So it's awesome to see.
Okay, what's next on our list.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
What should be, I think, the final conjuring movie
, the last rights.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Oh God, the entire movie in the trailer.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
So the conclusion yeah, uh yeah, I don't know.
So is this like the in the pureconjuring filmography?
This is number four.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
I don't remember anything from number three.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Number three was in the South and it was like the
devil made me do it, orsomething like that is the
subtitle to it.
Um, and it was a pandemic film.
That wasn't that bad okay youknow, um, certainly not on the
level of conjuring one and two,which I think are stone cold
classics.
Right, there's fatigue to thisfranchise that I feel like is

(45:26):
unwarranted and I blame the nun.
It's all on the nun.
The nun has driven so manypeople away from the Ed and
Lorraine expanded universe,because you already know.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I'm the world's biggest Annabelle just give me
everything.
La Llorona.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
La Llorona, mixed on Right, but the nun's really the
one that I feel like has drovepeople away because the
Conjuring films and just likethe aesthetic that they provide
Like even watching this trailerI'm like God.
This movie is just saturatedand soaked in great 70s set

(46:08):
design, costume wardrobe.
Everything like vera, veraflaminga and patrick wilson just
look like 70s movie stars yeahin a certain way, and so,
although I do agree with ericathat the trailer gave us way too
much exposure, it was also justlike a greatest hits of what I
want to see in these films,where, like, it starts with the

(46:30):
room and the patrick wilsonvoiceover, where it's like you
don't, don't touch anything inthis room, and it's like, yeah,
okay, here we go again, here wego guess what we're gonna touch
stuff we're gonna touch stuffbecause that room is perfect.
I mean, we've said this from thebeginning.
Is that like you could justmake it?
Like it could turn intoepisodic tv, like you could do a
twilight zone series on everysingle piece that is in that

(46:53):
room?
And so I don't know.
Like you know me, I'm I'm inwhen it comes to the conjuring
franchise.
I don't know who's directingthis film.
I'm sure that'd be very easyfor me to look up and find out
here real quick.
I don't know if it's james wanum or or if any of the series,
if any filmmakers from from theseries are coming back to work

(47:13):
on this movie.
But yeah, I don't know.
I I support patrick wilson,vera flaminga, the conjuring
universe.
So I'm I'm tepid, but I'm I amexcited about this one.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
It looks like Michael Chavez, which, unfortunately,
he is the director of the Nun.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
And La Llorona.
But oh yeah, yep, he did theLast Conjuring.
The Devil Made Me Do it, so, umyeah.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
I will say the uh.
The poster on letterbox, uh,red and black going hard, Love
it.
Love to see the red, Love tosee the black, uh, very first
omen ish.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
The first omen barbarian.
I feel like two years ago or ayear ago.
Yeah, long yeah, maybe it wasjust last year yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
There were so many great red and black.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Strange darling.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Isn't that red and black too?
Yeah, I don't know, man, Ilisten, I will see the conjuring
movie.
I like conjuring movies Givesme a good reason to go back and
watch conjuring three Causeagain, like I just don't
remember anything from that.
But I just I, I like I do kindof hope this is, you know.

(48:33):
It says the tagline is preparefor the end.
Like I'd like to see PatrickWilson and, uh, vera Farmiga
like get into some otherprojects here.
Patrick Wilson for a second, Ithought was going to be like our
next leading man.
Uh, and it's been really funthat he's put a lot.
He's a screen.

(48:53):
Yeah, it's been fun, you know,between insidious and these
movies.
But uh, like man littlechildren is so good Like can we,
can we?

Speaker 1 (49:04):
get him back.
I felt the same about vera, too,coming off of the departed and
even her work in this really funlike garbage crime movie with
paul walker called runningscared.
She she was having a momentthere before she got so invested
into this franchise as well.
She's also, you know, just amom and doing her own thing

(49:25):
outside of Hollywood, which isgreat as well In a metal band.
The fact that she does comeback for these movies I'm
appreciative of.
But you know, this is this isexactly.
I think this film has an Augustrelease date.
This is exactly what I want,like in the dog days of summer
just to be able to walk into acool movie theater on a hot

(49:46):
summer day.
This is like the perfect fiveo'clocker and and and just kind
of get.
Go back, like you were saying,like go back into this universe
for for what is, and I agree,like hopefully the last time,
you know, I think the well hasrun dry.
Part of me is just like uh,this is the creative bankruptcy
that I always complain aboutwhen it comes to horror films,

(50:08):
where why not just take whateverthis true case file is from ed
and lorraine and just adapt thatinto something that you can say
like oh, this is based on trueevents or whatever, but it feels
original, it's not attached toan ip property.
Would that be better, probably,but at the same time, this
movie's probably gonna make 100million dollars.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
So more power to it, that's true um, all right, we
also is that?

Speaker 1 (50:36):
is that it for our trailer list?

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I'm trying to think uh, honey don't which I haven't
seen honey don't.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
So this is the new margaret film.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
This is another Chris Evans film too, right.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
And Chris Evans as well, so you have not watched
the trailer.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
I have not watched it because it's a Coen Brothers
right.
Is it Ethan Ethan?

Speaker 1 (50:58):
It is Ethan.
Yeah, I was almost going to sayJoel, but it's Ethan.
So talk about another one whereyou have different people
coming to this, coming into thisfilm at different times in
their career.
Because drive away dolls I knowthere's fans of that film and
supporters of that film, butlike a miss, I think it's safe
to say it's just like a overall.

(51:18):
So and that was also withmargaret qualley so I feel like
there is there's like a, there'san energy behind this film
that's like let's do it, let's,let's try this again, let's
let's maybe get it right thistime.
And then we already touched onhow Chris Evans, you know, going
back into original storytellingis what we've wanted to see for

(51:41):
a really long time, becausewhen we get glimpses of it and
something like Knives Out orSnowpiercer, he can be
phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, he looks, so I'm watching it right now on
mute.
He looks funny.
And Charlie Day?
Charlie Day is in here.
I love seeing him in asupporting role.
Aubrey Plaza, I do love.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Charlie Day, it does.
I feel like that's another oneof those trailers.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Aubrey Plaza, I do love.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Charlie Day it does.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
I feel like that's another one of those trailers
that just showed way too much ofthe movie, though this is the
problem with trailers, and thisis why it's blasphemous for us
to do this, because you couldtell me that it's a Coen
Brothers movie or it's one ofthe Coen Brothers it's Margot
Qualley and it's Chris Evans,and I'm there, yeah, you know
quali.
And it's chris evans and I'mthere, yeah, you know, yeah,

(52:28):
right.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
So again, it's not the movie's fault that the
trailer is showing us everything.
No, not at all.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
I just, I don't know, I just every trailer needs to
be a teaser, just a teaser,right like ice to lois was
perfect yeah, right I'm justtrying to watch teasers now.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
That's all I want to watch.
If I do watch a trailer yeah,this is already.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
I mean, we've been going on here for almost two
minutes and there's at least aminute left, like I just don't
understand that a lot.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah, you can pull the plug.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Pull the plug yeah, yeah, yeah, I will.
But, uh, yeah, it does look alot like, um, like what was the
other movie he did, drivewaydolls, driveway dolls.
Yeah, it'll be reallyinteresting.
I believe he wrote it againwith his uh partner.
Um, oh gosh, what is her name?
Uh, I don't know somebody.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Somebody talk while I look that up well, the next
movie I wanted to talk about umis weapons, which just also has
an august release date.
I think it's going to be agreat august this year for
horror um weapons looks weapons?
I haven't watched a trailer forthis one, but I'm in I mean

(53:41):
again, another one of thosemovies where you really just
need to know that it's ZachKroeger's next movie.
He's the writer director ofbarbarian.
He is the writer and directorof weapons.
The trailer doesn't really givea whole lot away, other than it
is about a teacher's class thatevery single student wakes up

(54:03):
one day.
They walk out of their houseand into the woods, never to be
seen again.
Um, julia garner, I mean, loveher.
And then we have josh brolin.
Um, there's, this is like oneof those trailers where it's
like it's perfectly done, wherethey're like showing enough
about like you can grasp thestory without exposing too much

(54:26):
of like the plot.
Um, and I think this isdefinitely one of those movies
that to look out for this summer.
Um, just being a huge fan ofbarbarian and like the impact
that had on the horror communitywhen that came out a few years
ago, I think that this is amovie to be excited about for
sure just to go back real quickhoneydote, uh, co-written by

(54:47):
tricia cook, who also wroteco-wrote uh, driveway dolls
hopefully better than drivewaydolls, we will see.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Uh, but again like another mid-budget movie here
that that maybe you know.
Maybe it hits in the right way.
Weapons josh bro, josh Brolin,another guy like I'm just so
glad he's out of the MarvelUniverse.
We get him back in fuckingmovies and the teaser trailer is

(55:17):
perfect.
I don't need to see anythingelse.
It looks like it could be avery intense, unsettling Uns
unsettling mystery, right, alittle bit of Shyamalan-esque
there, like there's got to besome sort of twist happening.

(55:37):
Yeah, I'm very, very stoked forWeapons.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Anytime, and just the title alone too is very, is
very provocative.
Like what?
Why is it called weapons?
right, I love that yeah um, andanytime that you have people
potentially who have beenraptured, I love that because it
just takes me right back to theleftovers and and how you can
just create such an interestingnarrative around the

(56:04):
disappearance of people.
Um, you know that's going allthe way back to picnic at
hanging rock, you know, in 1975.
So like this I yes, weaponslooks incredible and also crager
is somebody that just like inin him we trust yeah, yeah how
are we feeling about the moviehim?

Speaker 2 (56:23):
that is the new monkey paw production film
produced by jordan peele.
I'm not familiar with thedirector, justin tipping, but
this is the new.
You know people are saying it'sthe new jordan peele movie,
even though it's not but um,it's coming out in september
this is the football movie?

Speaker 3 (56:44):
there's not.
There's only a teaser out.
I believe it's very vague it'scoming out in september.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
It's the football movie there's not, there's only
a teaser out.
I believe it's very vague.
It's there's I don't really I Ifeel like it's being like
marketed as horror, but it's notreally like giving horror.
But I'm wondering if it isgonna be horror, like what do we
?
I don't.
I'm curious to hear yourthoughts If you've seen or heard

(57:08):
of it.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Alex, it reminds me of uh, what was that?
It was a short film we saw atuh I believe it Tacoma film fest
.
Uh about like a workout, uh ora bodybuilder prep, prep.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
I was, or a bodybuilder prep, prep.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
I was.
I was getting that, those kindof vibes, when I was watching
this teaser um I did not know.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
A teaser was out of this.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Yeah, to watch it yeah, again, again, like intense
, uh, visceral.
You know, I want to read thetagline really quick because it
says greatness demands sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Yeah, terror, terror strikes.
When a promising young footballplayer gets invited to train at
a team's isolated compound.
This is definitely horror, likeI have to believe that it is,
but I mean I could be totallywrong.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
But it also has marlon wayne's uh in a dramatic
role, which you know when's thelast time you saw that happen.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
So yeah, that's very, always, very exciting.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Yeah, yeah, fox Love the return of Julia Fox perhaps?

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Yeah, uh, it feels like this.
This film is coming out at atime that is very ripe For a lot
of social criticism and, ofcourse, with it being a monkey
pop production, you have toassume that there's going to be
a lot of social commentaryinvolved in this.
Whether it's trying to be anindictment of the NFL, of

(58:37):
influencer culture, of perhapssomething even more heavy, as in
like, I wouldn't be surprisedif there are things in this film
that remind us of what's beenhappening in the news with
someone like Sean Combs or evenJeffrey Epstein, you know like
it could have a little bit ofthat.
What was the Zoe Kravitz filmlast year?

(58:59):
Blink Twice?
Yes, it could have some of thatenergy in it as well.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I'm getting like culty vibes from it.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Yes, yeah so so definitely interest is peaked on
this one as well.
It's just so interesting thatand I think we talked about this
on our most anticipated episodeback in January, but we knew
that there would be so manyfilms that get announced later
on in the year that just weren'ton our radar at all and and

(59:28):
here we are now being able toanticipate and hype up some of
these movies that I think werecomplete blind spots to us back
when the year first started.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Yeah, that's, that's the best thing.
That's the best thing aboutabout doing this pod right.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
I'm out of nowhere yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Um, max, you shared a screenshot, a still photo, if
you will uh of the new David ORussell film.
Could, could you expand on thata little bit?

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Is this a 2025 release?
Do we know?
I believe, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
I think it is.
Uh, I think it is.
Let me pull it up here the.
The title of the film, Ibelieve, is just Madden David O
Russell.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Is that Christian Bale?

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Does not have a?
Yes, it is, of course it is.
Christian Bale is David ORussell's boy.
It doesn't look like it has arelease date yet, uh, but yeah,
there was a still photo ofnicholas cage who is playing
john madden a.
Uh, you know, he was asuccessful football coach, who

(01:00:39):
then hall of football coach, whothen became the voice of
football for over what?
40, 50 years.
Uh video games and video games,which are still going strong.
Um, so yeah, nicholas Cage isgoing to be transforming into
John Madden and Christian Balewill be playing, uh, the owner

(01:01:02):
of the LA Raiders.
I believe that they were the LARaiders.
Then, uh, al Davis, who is alsoknown as, just like a evil,
like darth vader, or darth likeemperor, an evil emperor figure,
uh, he's like a georgesteinbrenner of the nfl of
football, yeah uh, john mulaneyis

(01:01:22):
just win baby john mulaney isalso in this movie.
Catherine Hahn, sienna Miller,so we know we are going to get
some accents.
Sienna always good for anaccent Very, very excited about
that.
But yeah, I don't know.
I mean David O Russell, youknow, I know, alex, you are a

(01:01:44):
defender of Amsterdam.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
I was just talking to somebody about.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
I heard huckabees a week ago yeah like I, the man
has some certified bangers inhis yeah, and I don't think
we've ever seen one like a well,I guess the fighter is a
sportsman yeah, which of coursewon christian bale an academy
award yeah, they just in thisstill photo.
I mean they, they lookcartoonish, but, like you know,

(01:02:11):
that's how those guys looked atback in the 70s.
So I'm just excited.
I'm excited for theperformances.
You know nicholas cage, uh, heactually just released a movie
down here in la called thesurfer.
Uh, I've heard talk of this,which is like again, kind of
like this weird action you knowsad dad action movie with a

(01:02:34):
young filmmaker and I've heardsome interviews with him and how
he, just like he's at the pointof his career where, like he
has to, the projects he pickshave to like, really, just like,
excite him, you know,creatively, uh, in a performance

(01:02:54):
way.
So if you're gonna let him runwild as john madden, I'm, I'm,
I'm in, boom, baby boom.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
I hope it's a 2025 release, because if not, then
I'm worried that it gets dumpedin the first quarter of 2026.
Which isn't to say I wouldn'twelcome it in the middle of
February, but it would be fun tosee them.
I mean David O Russell moviesusually try to play towards

(01:03:27):
awards season.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
If you're smart, you'll put it out right at the
beginning of the NFL season, orlike right in the middle.
Right, that's a good point.
Come on, that's marketing 101.
Call me up, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I can already see, like, yeah, the Sunday Night
Football promo spot for it.
That's a great call there.
Okay, so, unless there'sanything else as far as trailer
news goes, we do have CannesFilm Festival coming up and I do
think that it's worth talkingabout.
Has it started already, Ibelieve?

(01:04:04):
so I do think, that it's worthtalking about.
Has it started already, Ibelieve so.
I do think that it's worthtalking about here just because
of what we've seen over the pasthandful of years, really going
back to 2019 and Parasite, wherethe films that compete for the
Palme d'Or at Cannes thatfestival's highest award
typically I think the onlyexception is Julia Dcarnu's

(01:04:27):
titan, which is ironic for thisyear's slate of films but
typically compete for bestpicture at the academy awards
and, as we've just seen withsean bakers and nora and going
back to parasite, and there's afew others in there can win best
picture at the academy awards.
There's, there's almost a directcorrelation here.
So, just looking at the moviesthat are highly anticipated from

(01:04:51):
this year, we have Die my Love,a film that we've already
talked about, lynne Ramsey's newmovie that we've been
anticipating for a long time,eddington Alpha, the new Julia
Dukar new film that is an A24release, the Phoenician Scheme
and then Nouvelle Vogue, whichis the new Richard Linklater
film.

(01:05:11):
So are there any of those films, or maybe something else not on
my radar in listing of thosefilms that you think could
contend this year, not only forthe Palme d'Or, but do we think
there's a Best Picture winnersitting at Cannes this year, not
only for the Palme d'Or, but dowe think there's a best pitcher
winner sitting?

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
at Cannes this year.
I mean, I think we have to takewhoever wins the Palme.
I think you have to takeserious.
You know, the Academy Awards,you know, as the voting body
becomes more international, asmaybe the ceremony, the
celebration of Sarah, you knowof the films seem to get smaller

(01:05:54):
right For more smaller films,for more independent film here,
uh, this week, and it started,the festival started today, may
13th.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
uh, we're recording this, uh, so the, but by the
time it comes out, it'll be acouple days in um, even just the
influence too, right liketotally see the reporting of
academy voters and there's allthis um hoopla that's been made
of voting members in the academy, copping to the fact that they
don't watch everything.
So then you, you start towonder how much of it is just

(01:06:35):
influence and then saying, ohokay, this film won, it can, or
this film performed well, um,and perhaps the baftas or
whatever else, uh, you knowaward ceremony that that academy
members take stock in, and so,yeah, I think you definitely
have to take it serious, whetherthat's for better or for worse,

(01:06:55):
just because of recent history.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Yeah, I think you know.
I mean, eddington is one thatI'm going to be watching closely
.
Eddington is one that I'm I'mgoing to be watching closely.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Uh, you know these can always has the funny
standing ovation for uh, 12minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Part one it was uh, eight minutes, only eight
minutes.
Uh, I also think uh, there's afilm out of france.
Uh, want to put a littlefeather in its cap, dossier 137

(01:07:35):
or Case 137.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Dossier, dossier.
Thank you so much.
That's how you pronounce that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
How long we've been on this river.
Dossier 137 from France.
From just looking at theschedule, it seems to be playing
quite a bit throughout thefestival.
It's French.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
We're in France for this festival Home court Always
kind of helps.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
So, yeah, I'm excited , I can't wait to see,
especially because of what hashappened with something like
Enora or Parasite or any of thenumber of films that have won
the Palm in recent years andthen gone on to win more awards
over here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Anything.
In particular, you're going tobe paying attention to Erica.
How do you feel?
I don't think we've ever talkedto you about Julia Ducar news
films before raw and T-Tan.
Have you seen either of those?

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
I think I saw raw like a long time ago and I don't
particularly remember Like I Idon't really remember liking it
for whatever reason.
But I also don't know, like ifI really gave it a chance,
because I know how many peoplelove that movie and it's been

(01:08:58):
recommended to me for a longtime, but I just don't, for
whatever reason.
I don't really remember how Ifelt about it Out of this list.
I mean, I know when we did ourmost anticipated for the year,
die my Love, was on my list.
So I am curious.
I haven't really seen a wholelot about that movie.

(01:09:18):
I don't even know if there'slike a teaser or anything out,
but I'm very intrigued.
I don't really know a whole lotabout Cannes.
To be totally honest, it'snever been like a festival I've
ever paid attention to.
Um I, I always hear about it,but um, I don't really.
It's a, it's a new um, it'sjust it's new for me to be like

(01:09:42):
paying attention to like thePalm award and everything, and
so I don't know it's new for meto be like paying attention to
like the palm award andeverything, and so I don't know.
I mean I I think after like ariaster's last movie, um, beau is
afraid I'm like hesitant abouteddington, even though I'm
obviously like excited to seeanother ari aster movie and just

(01:10:03):
to see, like what it's gonna be.
It's just got like a prettystacked cast um, but it's so
hard to live up to.
You know hereditary and whathe's done before, and so I, I
don't know, I'm I'll be curious.
I like I do agree that likewhoever does win the palm is
very we should be payingattention to that like in the

(01:10:26):
film community because it can betelling of, like once award
season comes around again andand kind of piecing together
that um, that pattern that theremight be um, especially since
you know the success of Onoralast year.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Ari's sense of humor is just so acute, it's so sharp,
I feel like, and it alwaysmakes me wonder if his films are
set up to be process, processedand like fully appreciated in
the moment, or if he is justlike destined as this, you know,

(01:11:09):
and you can say this aboutfavorite guy yeah exactly you
could say.
You could say this a little bitabout robert eggers as well, but
I I feel like his films havestarted to break through with
awards bodies just sooner thanAri's has.
And again, I don't know why.
It's something that we do inpontificating about movies, is

(01:11:32):
that we always just like pairthose two together and we're
just like these guys aredestined to be compared their
careers for eternity, aredestined to be compared their
careers for eternity.
But, like I, I just think thatthere's something about not only
how, how smart and how sharpand how detailed something like
hereditary and mid samar werethat when you look back and you
wonder why didn't tony collectget nominated?

(01:11:54):
Why didn't florence pugh getnominated?
Or the set designer, thecostumes for mid samar, or
something like that, and thenbow was afraid, kind of being
received as this, like thismixed bag, this, this financial
disaster really, and then likesomething that was critically
just sort of like lukewarm.
But then I think people havealready come around to saying
like no, this is about as goodas it gets, as far as being like

(01:12:17):
a black comedy and there's somuch social commentary on mental
health that that he was sort oflike poking fun at and with
this movie and, and now witheddington.
I'm not sure exactly what themeshe's going to be going for.
Is, you know, joaquin phoenixas this, the sheriff of a small
town?
I don't know.
I know there's a trailer out tothis film, max.
Have you?

(01:12:37):
Have you watched it, eric?
Have you watched it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
I don't I don't know what the vibe is.
It's a teaser and it's set inMay of 2020.
So it's dealing with thepandemic, which is really
interesting.
I feel like I don't know if amovie has actually went straight
into that yet.
I don't think a movie hastouched that yet.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
To be like a, a criticism of an like or just
like we're setting this duringthe pandemic of 2020, the covid
pandemic, there's definitelygood movies that have
acknowledged it, for sure, butit, yeah, I mean I can think of,
like kimmy, there was a bunchof movies that came out during
the time, but I feel like youknow he'll be combing through
this with like a lot of cynicismand again, our favorite pedro

(01:13:28):
pascal is going to be in thisfilm.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Another movie.
The guy is just, he'severywhere yeah, I love that for
him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
I just he to me.
He's such a goofy guy like he'she he does well and like maybe
not a super serious role.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
I, I don't know that's, yeah, I don't know.
I think from the teaser and andeven from the poster, right
like the poster, is thesebuffalo, you know, charging off
a cliff?

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
like following each other.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Yeah, I feel like this is going to be much more of
a black comedy style as opposedto something like hereditary or
midsommar.
I think it'll be closer to boas afraid bo's afraid for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Yeah, um, I mean my I'm, I'm putting all my stock in
alpha.
That was one of my mostanticipated movies last year
when I thought it was going tobe a 2024 release.
Now that we get it in 2025 andstill the release you know it's
playing can this year that's notto say it'll have a theatrical
release here in the UnitedStates before the year's up but

(01:14:36):
this will be the third featurefrom Julia and this is, I think,
where we really get to see whatthis next new wave of auteur is
like, once you get to movienumber three.
Like you know, some of thepeople that we've been talking
about a lot this year AlexGarland, you know, and it was
men in his case, with RobertEdgars.
It was the lighthouse with AriAster was Bo's afraid?

(01:14:59):
It's usually when they start totake more risks and start to try
to do, you know, just take abigger swing, try to tell a
different story, and so, withthis being her third feature
film, and for how much I?
I mean I really, really, reallylike Titan Raw is one of my top
15 movies of all time.
Like that movie is just so, Idon't know, maybe important

(01:15:24):
isn't the right word and thatsounds like really trite to say,
but I like raw just speaks tome on so many different levels.
And so I, I really want, Ireally really want julia
ducourneau to get her flowersand to have her moment and she's
already won the palm d'ior withTitane, so she's reached that
mountaintop.
But for her to completelytransition or maybe not

(01:15:47):
transition but translate toAmerican audiences I think that
is still yet to happen for her.
So I'm really hopeful for Alpha, and I know nothing about it,
but I just I'm invested becauseof the previous work.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Is Alpha a foreign language film?

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
I'm sure it's a French film.
She's a.
She's a French filmmaker, soyeah, I it probably won't be
English as the first language,at least Usually her movies have
a little bit of a mix, a littlebit of a blend of different
languages, but yeah, I don'tknow.
There's.
There's a lot to be excited forwith Cannes this year and a lot

(01:16:24):
of fun stuff premiering out ofcompetition as well.
I think Highest to Lowest isactually premiering out of
competition.
So we'll start to get to hearkind of early returns on a lot
of stuff that we've been lookingforward to.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
And we should also note that Cannes goes until
Saturday, the 24th, so it won'tbe till the end of May when we
know the winners.
Voting body this year thejurors because, usually they do
a really good job.
I think two years ago Spike Leewas head juror, Greta Gerwig
was on it last year, I know, andso there's always um a lot of
really important Jeremy Strong,no.

(01:17:13):
Halle Berry.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Halle Berry.
I thought you said Tyler Perry,tyler Berry, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Jeremy Strong.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Halle Berry yeah, uh Berry.
Juliette Bohnish, binoche, andthen it looks like a lot of
international writers,international directors.
Han Sang-soo from South Korea?
Yeah, people, I don't know.
So which from South Korea?

(01:17:42):
Yeah, people, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Which is exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Great, okay, and then that kind of takes us to the
last little bullet point.
At least that I put in ourlittle text outline is that
podcasts have made their way tothe Golden Globes and will be,
um, like an awarded categorythis, this upcoming year, in
2026, that'll be a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
So I can't wait to accept our golden globe.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Start working on our speech now, Right, I don't know.
What does this mean?
Is this good?
Is this bad?
Is this mean we've made it asas um a quote, unquote art form
like what?
What do we make of this?

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
uh, I think this is a way to get more celebrities at
the golden globes is thatbecause every celebrity has a
podcast now?
I think, I think it'll be jasonbateman's podcast, it will be
amy poehler's podcast, it'll bejoe rogan's podcast, it'll be,
uh, whoever.
Yeah, well, I don't even thinkBill Simmons is famous enough.

(01:18:45):
Uh, yeah, I, I.
It'll be interesting.
They're going to identifysomehow.
They're going to identify andpick 25.
It's like the top 25 podcasts,um, some, some, you know, uh,
group of of the of of the GoldenGlobes, will select 25 podcasts

(01:19:06):
and then they will have avoting body that will then vote
on these podcasts.
But I, you know, I, I don'tknow, did, did to the podcast.
Does a podcast need to beawarded at the golden globes?

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
I, I, I.
This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
I don't know I find that hard because there's so
many different genres ofpodcasts like yeah, there's like
some amazing wellness.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Uh, podcasters like I mean that's why I think it will
be celebrity driven yeah, truecrime.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
I mean there's so many.
I mean if I see, call her daddynominated for a golden globe,
I'm gonna fully lose hope inhollywood.
I'm not gonna lie like that'scrazy to me.
I mean I I'm obviously beingvery, you know, presumptuous and
saying that, but like I couldsee that happening, like, but

(01:20:08):
there's so many podcasts outthere, like how can you narrow
it down to 25 contenders?
It's just, it's almost like itis just.
Of course it's gonna be thepeople who are like celebrities,
you know, or people who havethese really big podcasts, but
like I listen to some likeincredible comedy podcasts and

(01:20:30):
like, and I know that they havea massive following and you're
like I can those people they'renever going to get nominated for
that.
I mean I would.
I hate to say that, but I meanit's just like, out of you know,
if you're gonna tell me that 25, there's 25 spots for that,
then amongst the thousands ofpodcasts that exist well, I

(01:20:52):
think they'll.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
They'll start with 25 and then they'll vote it down
to what like five nominationsprobably, yeah, for the show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
So I wonder, will they have like categories or is
it just going to be like bestoverall podcast?
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
It feels like this is something that I don't know if
the golden globes is the rightplace to debut it.
I do appreciate the platformyou know like shout out to all
the podcasters out there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
I appreciate the platforms.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Podcasts are important too, but it?
It Podcasts are important too,but I do question if this is the
right way because it feels likethis is just better suited for,
like you know, like if you toldme that on December 3rd, midway
between award seasons orwhatever, as award season is

(01:21:40):
starting to really pick up, thatI could turn on to be or the
Roku channel or one of these,you know, even like Paramount
plus or something like that, andit would be like it's the
podcast awards or whatever.
You know, we got to workshopthat title but it and it could
be something that they'reinstead, just you know.
Acknowledging 25 podcasts, thepod let's have 25 different.

(01:22:04):
Let's have 25 differentcategories and make a whole show
out of it so that you can havealmost like your best picture,
equivalent to like best podcastsI'm surprised they don't do
that already yeah, right, thatcould be.
Your heavy hitters could be in.
This is not an endorsement oflike the Joe Rogan podcast, but
that could be for like yoursuper popular 1% podcast.

(01:22:27):
And then you could also have atrue crime category.
You could have a best wellnesscategory.
You could have somethingequivalent to, like, you know,
best short film, bestdocumentary film.
You could have your smaller,more niche subjects that then
get recognized as opposed to,you know, because it's not like

(01:22:49):
the Golden Globes is going tocut any of the film or
television awards to make roomor to save space for podcasts.
It's going to be a drop in thebucket of that night's broadcast
, that telecast.
So, yeah, let's have, insteadof shoehorning it into an
already established award show,let's work on building a podcast

(01:23:13):
award show from the ground up.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Is this for sure?
This is for sure happening too.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
It's for sure happening.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
So weird?
And is that?
I mean, they're doing the stuntcategory next year too, right,
which is exciting, but is thatnot, or is that happening?

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
next category, I believe, is 2028, and then the
casting casting becomes acategory next year.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
That's right, best cast so we get podcasts award
before we get stunts yeah, okay,tom Cruise will continue, not
to One of those is Golden Globes, and one of those are Academy
Awards.
Those are two different things.
They're not going to do aGolden Globe for.
I mean, they're not going to doa Casting for Golden Globes.
Is that a Golden Globe?

(01:23:55):
They're two separate bodieswhat.
It's only the Academy Awardsthat's doing stunts, so not
Golden Globes.
Huh, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
I'm sure they'll adopt something.
But yeah, this is kind of aweird answer to the Academy
Awards, announcing those two newcategories and then the Golden
Globes, to be like we're goingto do a best podcast Nothing to
do with movies, so strange.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
Yeah, it is odd, it's very odd I do love the idea of
podcasts getting recognized.
Of course I do, but I just at aat a film and television awards
ceremony.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
This is, we are not a film and television platform
well, hey, look at us, man,we're, we're going visual here,
we're, we're, we're going to theyoutubes.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
You know most podcasts are doing that, so it's
becoming a visual medium well,and it just makes me wonder will
it only be entertainmentpodcasts that are up for
consideration?
You know, will they?
Will they acknowledge the thetrue crime podcast?
Will they acknowledge self-helppodcasts?
Will they acknowledge any sortof podcast that doesn't fit into

(01:25:12):
, like movie and televisionreviews?

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
I think it will be Amy Poehler, Conan O'Brien,
Jason.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Yeah, you're probably right.
You're probably right.
Well, okay, any people aresaying notes.
You got your ear to the streetdown there, max, anything you
want to report?

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
No, I don't think anything new, just the you know
that still, I sent today, uh,was kind of the newest news I've
I've seen.
Um, uh, I did just see EdgarWright and Simon Pegg are going
to be teaming up for anothercomedy movie coming, coming soon
.
Um, I'm hearing really goodthings about the new Edgar

(01:25:58):
Wright movie, uh, the runningman, uh, which is a remake of of
that, I believe.
Um, and Glenn Powell, uh, let'snot forget our star studded boy
, um, but yeah, no, no, nothing,nothing crazy uh down here so
far.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Any uh rumors catch your ear, erica.
Rumors, catch your ear, erica.
Any people are saying anythingin general you want to get off
your chest.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
No, I'm excited for Bring Her Back in a couple weeks
.
That's the movie I'm lookingforward to.
The new Danny and MichaelFilippo movie.
I will be seeing that in a fewweeks.
I think that I just have somegood horror movies to look
forward to which has, I think,been missing in my life recently

(01:26:45):
.
So that's pretty much it that'sgreat.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Um, I don't know.
Should we talk about the nbamax?
Oh my gosh, I have a lot ofthoughts.
I don't know if this is theright place, um, but I can't
talk to anybody at work aboutthis.
No one, no one.
I don't even know if peoplewatch professional basketball
anymore, but I know you do, andthis is the one time a week
where I get a microphone infront of my face.
I don't know.
Did people care this much whenPatrick Ewing, just like, was

(01:27:14):
given to the Knicks?

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Tim Duncan was given to the Spurs.
Yeah, wemby was given to theSpurs.
I mean you could even go back.
Leemby was given to the Spurs.
Even, I mean you could even goback.
Lebron was given to the Cavs,you know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
LeBron was given to the Cavs.
This is true, uh, but was itever so egregious as what we
just witnessed?
No, there's two things.
There's really two things.
People are saying that thatpeople are saying that the NBA
is so corrupt and so rigged, andI usually don't buy into this
when it comes to sports, um,just because you hear the
players talk and they're like nofucking idiots is like this is

(01:27:48):
our livelihood, like we putblood, sweat and tears into this
.
There's no script to the nfl.
People aren't, you know,rigging games.
Vegas can't fix games in realtime or anything like that.
Like the chiefs aren't going towin the super bowl three years
in a row, just so Travis Kelseycan propose to Taylor Swift and
have it be this whole big moment, or whatever, right.

(01:28:09):
But then two things happen thisweek.
Did you see the Draymond greenclip?
Actually, that's the firstthing I did not talk about that.
So it's game three of timber, ofT wolves and warriors.
The other night Timber wolvesare up.
Oh, this is the plus five.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
Thing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
This is the five and a half spread yeah.
Where they call a timeout,golden States losing by eight.
And then Draymond he's talkingabout his own team.
He goes I know what they'redoing right now, cause he's
already on the bench.
He's like fouled out and he'slike I know what they're doing
right now.
The spread was five and a half.

(01:28:47):
Like the lip readers have allsynced it up and all this stuff.
Whatever Golden state comes outof the timeout and they
immediately drop a three pointplay, they miss the first three
and they kick it right back outfor another three.
They hit that three, so nowthey're they're covering the
spread because it's five points.

(01:29:07):
And then there's like, so okay,now maybe you're really just
trying to win the game, right,you're really trying to make it
back.
The timberwolves inbound theball.
There's like eight seconds lefton the clock or whatever.
So you figure, foul right.
Crazier things have happened.
Reggie miller has scored.
You know whatever is.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
We just saw with the Pacers in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
We just saw Halliburton do this yeah, um.
Which shout out to the IndianaPacers they beat the Cleveland
Cavs.
I love that.
I love the Pacers.
Yeah, their, their squad'snasty.
It's so nice when you canfinally root for someone like
Pascal C because he's out ofToronto, anyways but then the
Warriors just don't foul.
So the Timberwolves dribble outthe clock.

(01:29:45):
They don't even go down andtake another layup or whatever.
So I'm like, okay, that isreally suspicious.
And then the lottery oddshappen.
The Dallas Mavs, with a 1%chance to get the first overall
pick, end up getting the firstoverall pick after they traded
Luka Doncic to the Lakers thislast season to team up with
LeBron.
It totally feels like it was a.

(01:30:06):
You do this for me, I'll dothis for you.
Adam Silver fixing it.
Just crazy stuff, crazy stuffin the association right now.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Well, yeah, and even the Spurs getting the number two
pick overall which.
I believe they had maybe like a4% chance.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Again, just like I don't know, I don't know if the
games are actually rigged, butman the, the player movement and
the the building of teams, surefeels, sure feels that way.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
It does, it does.
That's all the time we'll spendon that.
I just had to get that outthere.
We completely lost Erica.
She turned around and said pether cat.
But I just had to get that outthere because I still love the
NBA and this year's NBA playoffshave been so entertaining.
They've been so good.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
They've been amazing, absolutely amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Like the best in 10 years, I would say, and I know
you and I have texted a littlebit back and forth about it, so
I appreciate that part of ourfriendship.
You've always been mybasketball guy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
The Knicks are about to fucking beat those Boston
Celtics into the ground.
We love to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
I feel so bad for Jason Tatum, but at the same
time my hatred for the Celticsgoes so much deeper than my
sympathy for one player's injury.
It's great to see TimothyChalamet to bring it full circle
in back to movies.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
And Spike Lee.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Timmy and Spike Lee sitting courtside at the garden.
It's gotten me through.
Listen, I'm going to be thebiggest, laziest piece of shit
this summer because I'm justworking so hard right now at
work and I'm looking foranything that I can to just get
me through the day when I'm doomscrolling on my phone after.
I don't know, today was like an11 hour day, and when I see

(01:32:02):
timothy chalamet and spike leenext to each other courtside at
the next game and like, and justanother thing, like I'm so
happy for timothy chalamet andkylie jenner's relationship
because it actually does seem soauthentic, but the fact that,
like, she's not even who is inthe photo and like this is who
we are choosing to highlight inthese moments, is like one of
the best living directors andone of the best living actors,

(01:32:25):
and I just can't help but thinklike sooner or later, they're
probably going to work with eachother.
This is going to be awesome Likeah, I just it's great and it's,
and just it's, it's basketballbringing people together.
I don't know, it's just when,when your worlds collide, when
two worlds collide and and youfeel like things are sort of
just like happening for for yourentertainment.

(01:32:46):
Um, it's a good feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, I totally agree.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
It's got very worked up, Um okay.
So what do we have next week?
We have final destinationbloodlines.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
And it and it gives us a chance to, I think, circle
back to an idea that you knowwe've kicked the tires on a few
times.
Our boy, derrick nunn, has comeon and done one of these
episodes with us.
But it lets us sort of revisita lost film franchise, maybe
turn over a few stones anduncover, like a, a forgotten,

(01:33:27):
underrated horror sequel withinthe final destination franchise,
because for as iconic as two isin that opening with the log
truck on the highway, two's notthe best movie.
It just really isn't.
All due respect to my girl, ajcook and ally larder, but like
four and five are pretty fuckingfun, like the nascar scene,

(01:33:51):
that that that cold open is soawesome.
Um, there's a lot of good stuffin four and five that I think
we we need to talk about.
So lost horse sequels aredefinitely back on the table
next week.
I'm really excited forBloodlines, especially after
hearing you say that the talk ofthe town is that this could be
one of the better installmentsin the franchise.

(01:34:12):
So that's really exciting.
I don't know where you guysstand on the Final Destination
film franchise as a whole.
Erica, you being such awhorehead, I'm excited to hear
what you have to say about it.
There's also room to fit in alittle bit of Twilight Zone
conversation in here, becausethat first film cribbed a lot

(01:34:33):
from an early Twilight Zoneepisode, so a lot of fun stuff
to dive back into.
I've always really liked thisfranchise, so I'm excited for
that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
Yeah, I can't wait.
I can't wait to see it in apacked theater, uh on a on an
opening friday, and uh reallyexperience it with, with the,
with the masses more devin sawatalk for you, erica, which is he
in this?

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
new movie down girl down.
No, but he's in the original ofcourse.
So um just another opportunityin this movie wait where I
didn't know I I.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
That's so funny that you mentioned him, because he is
I'm watching that show hacksright now and he just made an
appearance and I was like Devin,my first love, devin, you
haven't called you still have tofire up Hard Eyes, because he's
awesome in Hard Eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
He's in that too, from earlier this year.
Yeah, he's really great.
Asawa Sans interesting and alsodon't be.
I'm curious as to what thepromotion is down there around
this film.
But don't be surprised when Ifit in some hurry up tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Conversation next week as well so yeah, that comes
out next week, right because?

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
I haven't said this upcoming weekend, this upcoming
weekend, yeah yeah, I haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Yeah, I.
I want to go check that out too, because is that going wide or
is it just going to be limited?
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
I'm not sure if it's going limited and then wide or
if it's only getting a limitedrelease.
I know that fan screenings arehappening, like right now in
select cities across the UnitedStates and also internationally.
So I think it's going to get apretty big release.
I don't know if we're talkinglike 3,000 screens in multiple
countries and on differentcontinents or anything like that

(01:36:27):
, but I mean the Weeknd being aglobal artist, you would think
that the fan base is there.
Also Jenna Ortega and BarryKeoghan.
So yeah, we'll see.
We'll see with that one.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Yeah, can't wait to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
All right.
Well, I didn't know if we had100 minutes in us, but here we
are.
This is just what happens whenthe gang gets back together.
It's been great seeing you, max, and connecting again.
I don't know, I don't want tospeak for Erica, but we miss you
, but it's great to see you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'm happy to be back on the show and see
you guys' faces.
Yeah, yeah, I'm happy to beback on the show and see you
guys' faces.
Even two weeks was too long togo without sitting and talking
movies on.
Excuse the Air Mission.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
Could you guys on my screen, like Max, if you do your
hand you know like that andthen Erica does hers like that,
since you both are on the top,it would make like a heart.
Erica, you got to do the otherhand.
Oh, now you're getting blurrytoo.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
Max, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
We'll workshop this.
Check us out on.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
YouTube and, yeah, this will be on YouTube.
I will put it up on YouTubeAlso.
Listen listeners hit us up.
Hit us up with some fan mail.
There's listeners hit us up?
Hit us up with some fan mail.
Uh, there's a link at the topof the show description and
whatever uh app you listen toand you can send us a text, a
complaint, uh, something aboutDevin Sawa, like anything.

(01:37:52):
Please send us some some mail.
We will read it on.
Uh, the next episode.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
Absolutely.
And and I I will just say too,because I'm about to, of course,
go into the, you know, followus, um, on letterbox plug here
and also on the social medias,we're bringing back the
instagram.
The instagram has been dead.
I've just not had I guess I'vehad the bandwidth.
I just have not been putting inthe effort and I haven't even
been logging stuff on letterbox.
But I watched a movie, a newmovie, the other night and I

(01:38:24):
logged it and I wrote about it.
And it was one of those thingswhere I was just like I don't
care if anybody likes this oranybody goes out and sees this
movie, but like I just felt socompelled to write about this
movie after I saw it and and itawoke something in me and so yes
, turning over a new leaf here.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
I love to hear it.
Letterboxd has been lonelywithout you.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
Yeah, Erica and I had a little bit of a conversation
about it last week.
She's like listen, I onlyfollow like seven people.
I notice when you're not active.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Not even.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
Okay, so there we are .
There's our spiel.
Until next time, please followexcuse the intermission on
instagram and the three of us onletterboxd to read our reviews
and track what we are watchingbetween shows, and we'll talk to
you next time on eti, wheremovies still matter.
Bye, thank you.

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