Oscar Noms, and 2025's Most Anticipated Movies

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
How's it?
I'm Alex McCauley.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm Max Fosberg and I'm Erica Krause.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
And this is Excuse the Intermission a discussion
show surrounding our mostanticipated films of 2025.
It's our last show of Januaryand, as the dumping weeks of
quarter one come to an end, wecan now turn our attention to
some of the year's mostnoteworthy releases.
We also have last week'sAcademy Award nominations to
cover, so a busy episode toclose out the month.
Here Our conversation begins onthe other side of this break.

(00:31):
All right, guys, we're back atfull strength for this episode.
Erica, we missed you last week.
How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm good.
Yeah, I really enjoyed theDavid Lynch episode.
Listen to you guys, thank you.
It was making me, you know, geta little teary-eyed.
Listen to just Alex and Kayleeget all emotional.
But you know, it was just abeautiful episode.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Truly, thank you I think much in the way of maybe
transcendental meditation or theLynchian way of doing things.
There was just kind of a goodflow to the conversation.
I think you know we didn'treally come into it with any
structure, so I reallyappreciate hearing that there's
been other people that havereached out and said you know,
good job on that episode.
So that meant a lot.
That was a lot of catharsisright there.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, I know, and also just listening to it.
And also just listening to itand I had seen that there, you

(01:40):
know, some of his kids hadorganized like a national like
at noon our time they were doinglike a little like a national
meditation for him to honor hislife and I just thought that was
like super serendipitous thatyou guys started recording at
noon.
Serendipitous that you guysstarted recording at noon.
And I was just like you know, II'm I'm glad I handed it over
to some like real solid, likeLynchians you know, like you
guys, it was a really beautifulepisode.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Thank you Appreciate that, Max.
How are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Doing well yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Tired.
I've been on a set someprojects for fellow students.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
This is the new normal for you now, bud, I'm a
little burnt out, but yeah, I'mhere, I am here.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, we got to find I don't know.
We got to find a way to get youto bed earlier or something,
because this is what it's goingto look like.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
This is what you signed up for, I know.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Late nights.
Oh yeah, late late nights, longdays uh, so much fun though.
Uh, I was up in monroe here andoh so much.
Monroe known for how fun no,really fun place really fun
place.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
monroe, really great folk.
Um, yeah, no, I was working ona like a horror Western up there
, uh, that I can't really saymuch more about, but uh, yeah,
it was, it was a great time,really great time you have me at
horror Western.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, sounds pretty sick.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I think you'll, you'll really dig it yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's pretty awesome .
So while Kaylee filled in forErica last week, maxwell you
were.
While you were out filming.
I just want to give one moreshout out to the Grand Cinema
and their event, their WeirdElephant screenings that they
had last weekend.
Really cool once again, just tosee people come out in
celebration of David Lynch'scareer.
There were sold out shows bothFriday and Saturday night for

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Blue Velvet and Mulholland Drive.
The Blue Velvet crowd wasexactly what you want to see,
and Mulholland Drive the bluevelvet crowd was exactly what
you want to see.
You know people hanging onevery line laughing at the parts
that are absurd and goofy andcorny and then really locked in
during the more intense parts.
And then Mulholland Drive waslike that was just a movie

(03:40):
watching experience on anotherlevel, one that I hadn't had for
myself in a really long time,where I packed, sold out theater
, so invested and and socommitted to just like being
there in the moment, togetherand experiencing this film.
I kind of saw the movie for thefirst time and this is after I
don't know probably 10 to 15rewatches in my life but like it

(04:02):
was one of those where I wasable to see it kind of in a new
way during this screening.
So that was incredible.
Still more Lynch things to comehere in the community the in
dreams celebration of DavidLynch's life, which will be at
Edison square on February 7th.
Really looking forward to that.
So you know, look on Edison'sInstagram page for tickets.
You can go there in person andtalk to the fine folk that that

(04:27):
run the venue there and figureout more if you want to know, um
, exactly kind of what thatnight is going to entail.
A lot of cool creativeperformances though a bunch of
local artists coming together incelebration as well.
So really good stuff happeningthere.
Um, so, before we get into ourmost anticipated films of 2025
for this episode, have you guysgotten used to saying 2025?

(04:49):
Yet I have to write it onpapers like all day, every day,
and so I'm finally getting there, but still saying it out loud
2025.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's a little wild.
Um, we have.
We have the Academy Awardnominations to reflect on.
So these were released, Ibelieve, last last Thursday at
530 in the morning.
Rachel Sennett and Bowen Yangdid the live broadcast.
I know Max was up because I gottext at like 540 from him once
things started to be unveiled Atradition like no other.

(05:20):
I'll tell you what they did.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
A better job this year, I think of, of trying to
incentivize people to wake upand watch by having someone like
rachel senate and bowen yang,some, some actual celebrities
well and host this and they,they were playing to the uh
absurdness of it being 5, 30good in the morning, um, making
comments about how they hadn'tslept yet, and it was really

(05:43):
funny.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
So I mean, there's obviously what 23 categories
here that we could go through.
Um kind of just want to hit onthe big ones.
Maybe some some prizes, maybesome snubs.
So when looking at kind of theswath of best pitcher, start at
the top, what stood out to youguys?
Do you think there's a favoritehere?
I mean, amelia perez is kind ofthe elephant in the room with

(06:06):
13 nominations.
That's leading the way thisyear.
What are your big takeawaysfrom the best pitcher noms?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
watched it and I'm not gonna like I'm sorry, but
I've, I've seen, I've seen whatI needed to see and I'm good,
and I just don't understand andI'm like really plugged into
this like Amelia Perez drama onsocial media right now, like
I've.
You know, when I when thenominations came out, I was just
like scouring the comments andI feel like every comment was
like what are they thinking?

(06:46):
What's going on?
But it's favored to win.
It has literally the mostnominations out of any movie 13
Oscar noms and I don't know, Idon't really get it.
But other than that, I'm kindof looking at the list and of
course I have like my favoritemovies, but I have no idea.

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I feel like who knows what willhappen?
You know?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I'm glad you brought up the social media aspect and
kind of the viral and it's notreally a campaign, because no
one's like rooting for AmeliaPerez by creating these posts.
However, it's entered thealgorithm now and I see it every
single time I log on and I knowthat's catered to my specific
likes and things like that onInstagram or whatever, but it's

(07:33):
just, it's a weird place to bein because you know we just
spent the last couple ofepisodes talking about how much
we enjoyed the films of 2024 andnot that you know, we were ever
going to see something like thefirst Omen or rebel Ridge or
all these kinds of weird funkygenre pictures that we really,
really liked from this past year, represented necessarily with

(07:54):
the nominations.
But now I'm like, ah, is thepublic's perception of the
Academy Awards and of justmovies in general going to be
the like?
You know, for those people thatdon't really pay attention to
this stuff, like us, is thegeneral consensus just like,
yeah, movies just continue toget it wrong, and this is why no
one cares about movies.
Because look at this, what areyou guys doing?
You're nominating.
You know they, you, we, whoeverthe powers to be, are

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nominating a movie 13 times andeveryone hates it.
Like yeah, what are you doing?
It's almost like like I'm notthat plugged in to to music.
I I wouldn't say compared toother people, but I'm still of
the mindset to be like okay, Ican see a list at the end of the
year that says, like okay, yourtop streaming artists are like
taylor, swift and drake and youknow whoever else.
I know that that doesn't meanthat it's like a bad music year,

(08:41):
though, but there's a lot ofpeople that don't, and so I'm
just like shit man here we are.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, it's really odd .
Uh, you know, you think it's a,I think it's pretty much a a
two horse race right now betweenthe brutalists and Amelia Perez
and all these voting bodies,whether it's SAG, the DGA, uh,
you know, the globes and now theoscars love amelia perez and

(09:09):
and are celebrating it in largeswaths.
And it's it's.
It's odd because every singleperson that I have talked to in
real life, irl, does not likethis movie I know, know that's
everyone saying about this.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
like online is like, are you not paying attention to
what, like the general consensusis feeling about this?
And even like on Letterboxdit's like just I don't know.
I continue, but I just yeah,and I listen.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
look at, look at the country we live in.
You don't need to win thepopular vote to be.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's very true, we live in you don't need to win
the popular vote to be.
That's very true.
But I mean, I think to Alex'spoint that you know, yeah, I
think I think it is a huge ifAmelia Perez comes in here and
takes all these awards, or atleast a large amount, and really
honestly, if it wins bestpicture, it will be a huge, I
think setback.
It will be a.
I mean, people are alreadywriting that it could be one of

(10:06):
the worst best pictures of alltime and they're going to get
blowback from everywhere andagain people will continue to be
like, well, movies don't matter, because you know.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
You people who pay attention to it and try to
celebrate this stuff can't evenget it right, Right, Exactly and
in the moment now.
We've seen this happen, ofcourse, before, but that's
usually with hindsight and thebenefactor of that being 2020,
when you can look and saysomething like driving Miss
Daisy, you know, and all thesedifferent things that have
happened crash or green book inthe moment, I think people

(10:42):
understood that that wasn't thebest win.
However, it wasn't like goinginto that evening.
People were like we're cooked.
If green book wins this award,it's it's going to be.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
it's going to be really disappointing If Amelia
Perez comes out just because,again, like you know, I
understand that it's a lot ofyou know, there's a lot of craft
that goes into every singlemovie that is made.
It is from a French, you know,kind of legacy master filmmaker,
but definitely not his bestfilm and definitely not,

(11:20):
definitely not the best film onthis list.
I mean, I'm so happy to see thesubstance on here, I'm so happy
to see something.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
If you were going to power rank like your top five.
What do you have them?

Speaker 3 (11:30):
not personal taste, but going into the evening I, I
think where things stand rightnow I guess, yeah, as like a, as
as like what I think, where,where everyone is, because the
interesting thing about theacademy awards.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
What they changed the last couple of years is ranked
voting right.
So if amelia perez gets, Ithink perez has to be the
favorite right now.
So if it gets a majority ofnumber ones, that's nice for its
chances.
However, if other people thatare maybe strong for the
brutalists or strong for anoraor something else, give that
movie a bunch of twos and threesand it doesn't really dip below

(12:05):
like the top four, and thenthere are those people you know
that are going to try to counterthe Amelia Perez movement and
put it like in the bottom halfRight, then maybe something
different happens.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I think it's it's Perez, it's the Brutalist, it's
a Nora and then, I think, acomplete unknown.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay Is in the top five.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Has taken Conclave's four spot.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
And then I would probably go Conclave I'm Still
here Nickel Boys, substance or,you know, doom Part II.
I feel like all of those cankind of interchange a little bit
.
I mean sadly, I think Doom PartII is in the bottom half.
Um, I'm still here, a movie Ihaven't seen yet from from
brazil, that again like that'skind of cool that that I'm still

(12:50):
here is is in here because itis like a very, you know, small
independent film from anothercountry.
Um, nickel boys, very happy tosee that in here.
Uh, and then, you know, there'salso the wicked you know, maybe
wicked's in five in the fivespot there, um, because you know
we could had had such a hugemoment, uh.

(13:13):
But yeah, I, I really think youknow it's either going to be
perez brutalist or an aura yeah,I agree, you know uh, and, and
you know usually what, what'sthe award that we usually can
tell where it's going.
Is it editing?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
editing play, editing screenplay.
I think in this case, if youstart to see, you know, a lot of
the below the line awards, likeum cinematography go to Amelia
Perez, like some of those likequote unquote, below the line
awards that aren't in the bigeight but that are still

(13:48):
probably in the big 12, rightthen, then I think a movement's
happening.
You know, because it isnominated um for things like
score and sound and you know,makeup and hairstyling, so many
of these things that, like, Ithink we would have said that,
like, if wicked started to winsome of those, I don't
necessarily think that we wouldthink, oh, a wicked moment is

(14:10):
going to happen here or a dunemoment is going to happen here.
But if the momentum startsearly with Amelia Perez picking
up those, those craft awards,then all of a sudden it gets a
little dire and a little sweaty,going, going into like the
third hour of the evening.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, if Jacques is Jacques, jacques, jacques,
jacques, jacques, jacques,jacques, jacques, jacques
Jacques.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Jacques Jacques Jacques, jacques Jacques Jacques
.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques,
jacques, jacques, jacques, wherehe's old this may be.
You know this movie is.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Is came out on netflix in the us and like how
ironic would it be if this isthe movie that netflix finally
wins best picture for, and it'sthe one that everyone hates.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I don't know, dude crazy, I'm gonna stay super
optimistic and think that thebrutalist is gonna is like,
really likely to take this award.
I I mean, I don't know, we'llsee, I might be eating my words
here in a couple months, but, um, not even a couple months, like
the sad thing about that,though, is like I don't even
think the brutalist is deservingbecause you did.

(15:18):
You see the brutalist?
Yeah, and it's.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I haven't seen it it is a feat of of, you know, feat
of independent filmmaking, madefor 10 million dollars and all
that, but like I don't thinkit's better than Anora we all
know nothing's better than Dune.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Part 2 we all know nothing's better than the
substance that's the big loser,even though Dune Part 2, I still
think, picked up like 6 awardsor 8 awards, something Um the
fact that there's just nomomentum for that film going
into this, going into this year,whereas part one it was sneaky
momentum but there was a lot ofhype for that film's craft, that

(16:00):
12 nominations and and wereally felt like it had a good
chance of being recognized thisyear.
I'm like I don't even know.
I think that amelia perez is isthe one maybe a complete
unknown grabs a couple of thingsfor, like you know, costume
design or whatever, just because, for whatever reason, that you
know, the academy we joked aboutthis max a little bit in a text

(16:20):
with our buddy heath, but likethe academy just loves to
recognize people you know, inrobes and in corduroy, like I
don't give me a, a milliondollars, I could costume design
for for conclave.
I could costume design for, uh,a bob dylan movie.
You know like what are we doinghere?

(16:41):
By not I'm?
I'm going down to costumedesign and we're not nominating
Dune part two in that categoryall of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
It's unbelievable.
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, so yeah, I mean yeah, when we're looking at the
best picture and you know Itouched on the directing, best
directing.
I mean again for DennyVilleneuve not to be at least
recognized.
That's going to kill me.
It's just, it's really reallybad.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
It's egregious, it's so bad.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Because I look at Best Director.
I feel this way about a lot ofthese nominations.
I look at these differentcategories.
I simultaneously love some ofthe nominations and then there's
like two that make meabsolutely hate it.
I'm like, what are we doinghere?
Best director, love seeing seanbaker.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Love seating brady corbett in there what's your
second one that you don't?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
love seeing core corley in there.
I just feel like james mangoldhas done this before with walk
the line and like it's just.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I don't think it's better than Walk the Line and
it's just.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
It just doesn't feel it to me from the outside.
Max can speak to this betterthan you or I, I suppose, but
like there's no way have youseen a complete unknown.
No but just like there's no wayI think we can all agree
there's no way that it's easierto direct a complete unknown

(18:07):
than it is.
Dune Part 2.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Absolutely, I completely agree.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
There's just no way.
There's no way that that's aharder task.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I was rewatching Dune 2 the other day and just kind
of threw it on and I'm justsitting there like and this man
didn't get nominated.
I just don't really get it.
Like that movie like we've kindof talked about is really just
feels forgotten and I'm like how?
I mean I'm not even like a hugelike sci-fi person, but I loved

(18:37):
that movie and it was up in mytop four like most of the year,
and so for it not to get it'sthe highest rated film on
letterbox this past year yeah,and I don't understand the the
directing snub for dennis.
Like I don't really get thatbecause I agree with what you're
saying about james man gold.
Like I haven't seen a completeunknown.
I know I'll love it, but do Ithink that that spot deserves to

(19:01):
be taken from Dennis?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
No, yeah, you know.
Yeah, then he was was in thedunes.
Yeah, we were in the sand thatmovie.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
When I left the theater I remember looking at my
friend and just being like it'smovies like this that literally
make me want to work in film.
So bad Cause, imagine like,like they're on, they're like in
it know, I mean, and it's justlike the dedication that that
kind of that it takes to createmovies like that.
Please recognize it, god yeahum, yeah, it's, it's.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
It's again like I'm looking at cinematography now.
The brutalist should be there.
Doom part two should be there.
I Doom Part 2 should be there.
I love seeing Nosferatu inthere.
Jarin, who is back after beingnominated for the Lighthouse a
couple years ago.
I have not seen Maria yet.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
You're going to throw Amelia Perez in there.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, but to have Amelia Perez, again a movie that
is a musical that doesn't havegood songs, I don't think the
cinematography was great, youknow.
I mean, yeah, there's a lot ofchoreography going on because
there's it's a musical, but Ijust I don't.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Would have loved to have seen, like Challengers in
this spot, the Substance, theSubstance, the substance.
Just re-watched the substance.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
That's crazy great camera work in both those
unbelievable camera work andlike and again, knowing some of
the stories from behind thescenes.
You know corley, or corley, uh,you know planning out 10 days
of like she would I think shecalled them tech days where all

(20:48):
they would do is like macrolenses and extreme closeups on
items or insert shots and youreally feel that and it's such
good, good stuff and throughoutthat film and like really gives
that a style, a visual style.
Also, I also just learned inthe Substance they shot

(21:12):
everything in France.
The whole movie is shot inFrance.
The apartment and I can'tremember if I've said this on
the pod yet, but the apartmenthas that, you know that huge
window that looks out on the LAlandscape.
That is a fucking physical feltsheet with the LA landscape or

(21:34):
city line or whatever you wantto call it printed on it and
like.
That's just brilliant, it'sabsolute brilliance, because
they didn't want to do it.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Like on green screen.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
You know, on green screen and digitally and like
that is cinematography, Likethat making that work and making
it look real.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Giving your actor something to play with on set.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
That is cinematography, because that
lighting has to be so good thereto make that realistic and like
that should be celebrated.
Just that little nugget.
So, yeah, it's disappointing'sdisappointing.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
But you know, the oscars disappoint every year
this is the most disappointmentI've felt in, probably since
we've been doing this pod.
You know the year thateverything everywhere all at
once was already fashioned to towin.
I had accepted that and thatwas just kind of like whatever.
I felt like it was a down movieyear in general, so there's not

(22:28):
like the need to really get tooinvested in it.
But this year, when I am verypassionate about wanting to see
a film like the substance ordune part two or some of these
other movies get celebrated, I'mjust like I'm really dejected
by by what they've done thisyear in leaving out movies like
challengers and queer, just likecivil war, so yeah zero

(22:51):
nominations another greatcinematography sound and sound.
Yeah, a lot, a lot of moviesthat I'm like this could it just
would have been so nice to seeyou know one of those movies
that we just mentioned.
Pick up two awards below or twonominations below the line.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
I think we've talked about this before, but, like the
Oscars, should put in like acap like oh, we have talked
about this.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
You should be able to get more than eight nominations
.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Like let's spread it out.
This is the night for tocelebrate all the films that
have come out in the past year.
Like let's get as many filmsthere.
Get as many people from comeout in the past year.
Like let's get as many filmsthere.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Get as many people from different films in the
building and also please for uswho pay attention to this kind
of thing, when you're when, whenall of a sudden a movie is
going to be made ineligible fora certain category and now maybe
the information is out thereand it's on me like maybe I need
to do better and dig a littledeeper.
But just on the surface,looking at best original score,

(23:50):
why is wicked here?
How is this an original score?
I get that the music, theinstrumental music, for the film
that's crazy is there, but likeis.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Is it though, or is it?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
just taken from, or is it just taken from the
musical or is?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
it just songs from the music?
Is it background music?
Is it instrumental music fromthe Broadway production?
I don't know.
But regardless it's not betterthan what Trenton Atticus did on
Queer, or it's not better whatTrenton Atticus did on
Challengers.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
It doesn't have an original song.
Oh, original score.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Best original score.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Whoa, that's kind of see.
That's weird because yeah,stephen schwartz did the musical
and I'm not seeing the musical,so I maybe I like I'm missing
something, but I don't know thatthat's legit well, guess what
else is there?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
amelia perez, which is based on an opera now again.
That is probably more originalbut, still, you're taking the,
the skeleton of those operasongs.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, if Denny's score, if the Hans Zimmer score
from Dune part two cannot benominated because he's using
some of the same sounds um fromthis for some of the same
segments from songs that werepresent in dune part one, then
it like I get that and Iunderstand that, but it should

(25:10):
be the same thing.
If you're basically justadapting or transferring songs
over from an opera, from abroadway production and sure
you're maybe re-recording oryou're tweaking, you're doing
certain things, it still doesn'tfit that quote-unquote best
original definition for me.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I totally agree I will say I also just re-watched
conclave music and that's greatmusic is fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's literally if, if it wasn't for the music in that
, in that film, the tension inso many of those scenes wouldn't
be there the way it is, and soI do agree with that nomination.
They're happy to see the wildrobot here, you know.
But there's just a couple, andthat's the category Score.

(25:57):
I care so much about that everyyear, so that was a bummer to
see, I'm surprised your belovedFlo wasn't here for original
score.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Is there a lot of music in that Flow?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
doesn't have a ton of music, it's very impactful when
it does come in, which I liketo see that.
The thing about Flow that I loveseeing was it gets nominated
not only for Best AnimatedFeature, which I think it has to
be one of the top two or threefilms there, but it also gets
nominated for best internationalfeature overall from latvia,

(26:26):
and I love seeing that becauseyou know, amelia prez is
probably going to take that umaward.
But from all from everythingthat I can decipher from best
international feature, it isreally really strong this year
because you have I'm still herewith a double domination best
international feature, bestpicture flow.
Best animated feature, bestinternational feature the girl

(26:49):
with the needle and the seed ofthe sacred fig, I know have
great reviews and so, once again, I'm like amelia prez is
probably going to win this awardand it might be like the fifth,
fifth, strongest film out offive here in this category.
Um.
So so again, happy, but superconflicted because of where I
think the awards are going toend up, like the hands that
they're going to end up in yeah,yeah, I do feel conflicted.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm I'm really happy for the horror recognition.
Um, you know that we're we'reseeing but an alien romulus
academy award nominated film no,sferatu, for I mean I love that
, I mean I'm really happy to seethat.
But I just think that this isgonna be if, if the oscars go

(27:34):
the way that we don't want themto go, you're gonna.
I mean, they've already lost somuch respect from, like, the
general public, like I feel likeI pay attention to so many
people who are just normal moviewatchers, like just not
industry people, um, and they'rejust like, oh, the oscars are
always a joke or all they'rejust you know they especially,

(27:57):
and like I grew up loving theoscars and just I remember it
was such a big deal and now Ijust feel like nobody really
takes it seriously.
And then this year it feels likethe last straw for a lot of
people.
I mean, I cannot tell you howmany like negative reviews I've
seen of like people who are justlike what are they doing?

(28:22):
Like what's going on here?
You, you know, and there's justa lot of I.
I'm really pissed about thecivil war snub because I just
thought that was truly one ofthe best movies I'd seen all
year.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
So much incredible filmmaking with that but let me
ask both of you, two of my closefriends who watch many, many
movies have you ever heard orseen the movie the six triple
eight?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I sure haven't.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
No, I haven't, but Diane Warner did the she sang a
song for it God damn I.
I hope one day I get to meet,shake Diane Warner's hand
because, she's got what?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
prolific 16,.
I think yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Um unbelievable that she is nominated almost every
single year for a song that isimpressive.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
you know what else is really fun.
Just looking through thenominations, I noted this I'm
not a robot nominated for bestlive action short film, a movie
that max and I got to cover atthe Tacoma Film Festival this
past year and it actually had alittle correspondence with the
director, and so really cool tosee a movie that made the

(29:32):
festival rounds this year reallycampaign and make its way all
the way to the Academy Awards.
So, really cool little momentthere, also Nice.
So yeah, that's going to befebruary 10th, I believe, is
when the oscars are this yearreally is that true.
March 2nd, march 2nd okay oh,yes, there we are at the dolby

(29:54):
theater.
Yes, um, so we have aboutanother month for folks to
campaign, really build theircase, um, and for us to probably
, you know, crank out one morepredictions episode, and then,
of course, we will have somesort of friendly wager that
erica can get on yeah uh get inon for her first, first full
season on the pod here yeah, alot of fun for our oscar

(30:17):
watching party.
This, yeah, and this is going tobe really interesting this year
too, because am I going to feelgood?
Do I want to win thecompetition?
Of course, especially after maxdethroned me after a handful of
years there, um, last year.
But like, how many?
How many awards am I gonnapredict?
it me like head over, head overheart, yeah, head over heart

(30:39):
here right, it's gonna be tough,it's gonna be tricky, um, okay,
so let's get to our mostanticipated now.
Let's switch gears a little bitfor 2025.
This is another kind of annualtradition that we've been doing
here for a handful of years, maxand myself, erica, we're happy
to have you on to join in thistradition as well.

(30:59):
Max, I'll start with youbecause we have been doing this
here for a while now.
I'll start with you because wehave been doing this here for a
while now.
So, when you were looking atcreating your list for this, for
this episode, and the thingsthat you're looking forward to
most this year, this isn'treally like a game.
We're not trying to predict.
Maybe you know, like, what'sgoing to be the biggest box
office draw of the year or whatis going to have maybe double

(31:21):
digit nominations next year atthe Academy Awards, but in
picking your films, have youkind of tweaked the way that you
select these movies because youwant them to do good?
Or are they movies that you'rejust like I'm just riding with
this one because it sounds wildand crazy and it's coming out in
the middle of spring, but Idon't care?
Or are you like I'm going aftermy big guys.

(31:43):
I want heavy hitters.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
This is what I'm looking forward to.
I feel like I kind of split itokay.
I mean yes and no.
I I of course I want all thesemovies to do well, but there is
definitely a like a film,student movie that I'm I'm going
to, that I have on my list, um,and but I would, I would say
the rest.
The rest of the films are in inmax fashion, kind of the my, my
rider dies.
You know they're back.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
This is a big year for your guys.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah for sure.
I mean yeah, I mean we'll,we'll get into it, but like one
that is not on any of our lists.
I mean big Jim is back right.
Another another trip to Pandora, uh, uh, avatar, fire and ash
will be out in december andjames cameron, once again, will
prove that he is box office goldand that you can't stop him.

(32:33):
Uh, and listen, I'm not thatthat hype train is is just
always chugging along.
So I can't wait.
Can't wait to see that.
But yeah, I, you, but yeah,looking at the bigger picture of
2025, I think we're going tohave a really interesting year.
And who knows, maybe I'll becompletely wrong, like I was

(32:54):
wrong about 2024, thinking thatwould be a down year, but I
think there are some great,there's some great meat on the
bone for this year, um, and alsolike some interesting.
Even though there are likeremakes or reimaginings or
reboots, whatever you want tocall them, there could be some

(33:17):
interesting.
I think they're in the hands ofsome interesting filmmakers.
I agree um.
So yeah, I'm fucking stoked.
I can't wait.
It's also going to be reallyinteresting, and I don't know if
I've said this on the pod, butI'm planning to Not officially,
not officially.

(33:37):
So here we go, listeners, thisis official.
I'm planning to move to LA inMay and so I'm going to be in a
place where you know I can seealmost every movie that's going
to come out, which is really,really exciting, but also like
advertisements and billboardsand posters and signs on buses

(33:59):
are going to be in my faceconstantly.
So it's going to be like abrand new experience about how,
how I am intaking movies andlike my hype meter Right.
Like no, granted.
Hopefully I'm very busy withwork down there, but also like
I'm going to be seeing thisstuff in my real life every day,
and that's that's also veryexciting to my, my sister just

(34:22):
saw an Anora screening this lastweekend where sean baker did a
q a afterwards and yeah, I'm soexcited to to be close up close
and personal with with all thesepeople, uh, and hear them speak
after their films.
I can't wait very cool.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Um erica, how did you go about creating your list, oh
?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
well, you, well, you know, to be totally honest, I
feel like, well, I was kind ofmentioning to Alex before that
I'm taking a different approachto film this year.
I'm I'm very unplugged from thenew releases.
I mean, obviously there'sthere's some that I, you know,

(35:03):
I've seen, you know, I knowabout that are coming out like
more like the bigger releases.
I mean, obviously there'sthere's some that I, you know,
I've seen, you know, I knowabout that are coming out like
more of like the bigger releases.
But I have been on lists to tocreate my list and I really I'm
going to try to stay away fromlike trailers as much as I can
because I've, with my experienceof last year, I had so many um,

(35:26):
like I had high expectationsfor the year and and not that I
was let down in any way, I had areally fun 2024 um.
But I rec I recognized somepatterns that I have with like
with these new releases and umor just trailers and stuff and
expectations, and so I think,like with when I was creating my

(35:49):
list, I I really had to sitdown and like research, like
what's coming out and a lot ofthe stuff that that is like more
that I've just that I've seenlike like big hype, for wasn't
really what I wanted to add tomy list, because I don't know if
I could fairly say that thatwas what I was most anticipating

(36:11):
.
But I'm still excited, and Iknow that like I'm excited for
the year ahead, I kind of wantto be taken by surprise, though,
and so like, in creating mylist a lot like I think I'm like
looking at my list and two outof the five have trailers and I
haven't seen any of them.
Um, I actually have, I'vewatched part of both of the

(36:33):
trailers, but I don't want towatch them because they are
movies I am really excited for,um, but I'm more drawn to like
the cast of all of these of mypicks and I'm just I'm really
curious to see how this yearwill shake out for me personally
because of my some of likepersonal goals that I have for
myself in the year ahead, andhow I might kind of approach my

(36:56):
film watching habits a littlebit differently this year.
Um, so, yeah, I'm I'm excited.
We'll see what's to come.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
I'm.
I'm going to try and take kindof some some resolutions that I
have for myself as well andapply them to the movies that I
really go after this year andespecially for, like, the
theater experiences that I havefor this year, because not only
do I not want to, let, let's say, another smile to moment happen
where I neglect to see thatmovie in the theater just

(37:26):
because I write it off as asequel to a film that I was sort
of lukewarm on the first timearound, and so to pay more
attention to like the discoursearound movies like that when
they come out right away, butthen also to not overly invest
in some of the the more lofty,you know, award aspiration type
of films.

(37:46):
Let those come to me as theywill, because of course, it's
like if Paul Thomas Anderson ismaking a movie, I'm going to see
it, you know, but like I waskind of burned by Licorice Pizza
a little bit, so just like toback off on that a little bit
and maybe lean into, lean moreinto genres and filmmakers who
I'm not as familiar with.

(38:06):
Like we were just talking abouta movie that I watched the
other night, completely, um, bychance, game night from 2018,
and I'm like I want to find abanger, I want to find the game
night of 2025.
Yeah, you know, like, and thatmovie might not we might not
even know what that is yet,because so many films can take
six weeks to shoot, three monthsin post-production and all of a

(38:29):
sudden it's going to be out inaugust.
You know, like, we might noteven, and and, of course, like,
I think we all are coming intothis episode understanding that,
like, these lists areincomplete.
These are, this is theinformation and the data that we
have to work with in the lastweek of january, but but I'm
with you as far as, like, my, mymovies are all.
I'm not expecting that I'mgoing to give maybe any movie

(38:51):
other than one on my list, likefour and a half stars.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I'm not really attached.
I think I'm not really attachedto any movies that I've seen,
like for this year, obviously, Imean that you're anticipating?
Yeah, that I'm anticipating yeah, like, and and that's just me
like releasing expectation andjust kind of trying to flow a
little bit better, even though II did have high expectations
for last year and I it reallydidn't disappoint.

(39:18):
I saw the most movies intheater that I ever have before
and I was just, I had a reallygreat time at the movies last
year, and this is 2024 will be ayear that I never forget.
This year I, I would like to,you know, as Max said last year,
touch grass a little bit morethis year.
Um, and just kind of um, letmovies come to me and um, and I

(39:43):
think, when I look back on lastyear, my, the movies that ended
up being my favorites were theones that did just kind of come
to me like the substance andbaby girl and um, and the first
omen, like these are movies thatI didn't really have any like
weren't on your radar.

(40:03):
Yeah, they weren't, darlingstrange darling oh my god, I
mean yeah, just like I and andrecognizing that pattern, I'm
like, what did I do differentlywith that, as opposed to like
I'm sorry, alex, but long legs,you know, max was there for my
like extreme disappointment inthat, um, and I, just I

(40:25):
recognized what works and I'mlike, okay, this is how I'm
gonna go into this year and just, yeah, we'll just see.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
I like it all right.
Well, do you want to start usoff with your first movie?

Speaker 2 (40:36):
sure, um.
Well, so I guess I'll startwith the bride, um, which is a
maggie gyllenhaal directorwriter, producer, um, on this
movie.
This is a Maggie Gyllenhaaldirector, writer, producer on
this movie.
This is a Bride of Frankensteinremake.
Super curious about this, justbecause I've kind of caught wind
that it's a little bit of amusical like shitting on Amelia

(40:59):
Perez, but I'm curious about themusical aspect of this.
But mostly I was really curiousabout the cast which we see
Christian Bale as Frankensteinand then Jesse Buckley as the
bride.
But yeah, I mean, just it comesout the September looks like
end of September release, whichis that's kind of the new sweet

(41:22):
spot for movies September andthen early October.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Which is that's kind of the new sweet spot for movies
September and then earlyOctober.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, we see a lot of like monster movies this year,
it looks like.
So I'm just curious about thisbecause I like the fact that I
haven't seen Christian Bale insomething in a while.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Did you see her directorial debut, the Lost
Daughter, the?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Lost, daughter.
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
It's a great movie.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
So good, which is why I added this to my list,
because I saw that was that lastyear, a year before two years
ago yeah and um really enjoyedit and um yeah, so I I think
just seeing maggie attached tothis was like piqued my interest
, so it's my first pick yeah,and it's gonna be really

(42:01):
interesting because there'sanother Frankenstein movie
coming out this year Guillermodel Toro.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
It'll be in direct comparison to that and two
different, probably twodifferent takes on that story,
and that's really exciting.
The first film on my list isdefinitely a film student pick.
I don't know if I ever wouldhave seeked this filmmaker out

(42:29):
or be stoked for the next filmfrom her, which is Kelly
Reichardt's the Mastermind.
Again, kelly Reichardt is justa huge.
They teach you Kelly Reichardtmovies in film school, whether
it's meek's cut off or first cowor um you know, uh, wendy and

(42:54):
lucy, um it.
She's just a great independentfilmmaker, portland-based.
This looks like it's going tobe probably the biggest
opportunity she's gotten.
It's starring Josh O'Connor,alana Haim and it's about a art
thief, an art thief caper withthe back backdrop of the Vietnam

(43:20):
War.
Very excited to see this againkind of.
Probably, also, even thoughit's going to be her probably
biggest, most mainstream movie.
Also might be kind of a hardfilm to see, um, knowing,
knowing her releases uh in thepast.
So very excited to uh to seewhat Kelly brings to the table.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, ever since Meeks cut off, which I think is
like 2014,.
Maybe, I want to say maybe evenearlier than that, she was
somebody that was always sort ofon the radar.
And then First Cow, I think,was one, especially there during
the pandemic 2010.
2010 was Meek's Wow, but thenFirst Cow was really one of the

(44:02):
bright spots of those pandemicyears.
I think I had that top five theyear that that came out, and so
, yeah, I'm I'm right there withyou here on on the mastermind
that's.
That's one that I'm definitelyanticipating as well.
The first movie that I have onmy list is actually out in
limited release right now andgoes wide this weekend.
It's called Companion.

(44:22):
It's directed by Drew Hancock,someone who does not have a very
deep list of accomplishmentswhen you look them up on IMDb or
Letterboxd or anything likethat.
So excited to see what a young,new filmmaker can do here.
And this is just because I'm sodeep in the Sophie Thatcher
hive, that just that season oneof Yellow Jackets.

(44:45):
The stock invested in her thenis really paying off.
It's interesting to see theheretic moment, kind of
crescendo here in the last, withlike two weeks or so there was
so much talk that maybe HughGrant would get nominated for
his performance in that movie.
So I think more and more andmore people were like continuing

(45:07):
to watch that movie more thanum, and it was definitely
getting talked about more thanit did like when it first
released in theaters.
And she's fantastic in thatmovie.
Um, so really excited for this.
This sounds like kind of a, athriller um, with I don't know
if there's a touch of ai to it.
I really am not sure what'sgoing on, because on the poster,

(45:28):
sophie thatcher she, she islike the poster girl for the
movie like this is her vehicle,along with um jack quaid, who I
just feel like I.
I want it to happen for jackquaid you know he's he's one of
these guys that sure he's a cutelittle nepo baby, you know, and
it's.
You know, your mileage may varyon nepotism in Hollywood, but

(45:49):
he's somebody that I just feellike in maybe like 2006, when we
had more monoculture, that,like my, I was thinking like
jack quaid would have been greaton that 70s show, you know, and
and that like he's very justinlong and and that people or or
like a justin long like he wouldhave been somebody that like I

(46:10):
could have said his name to likemy mom and she would have known
who he is, like she knew whotofer grace was or who wilder
villamarama, what.
Like he just would have beenkind of one of these, these
celebrities, one of these actorsthat people actually cared
about and outside of maybesomeone saying, oh yeah, he was,
like he was in one of thescream remakes.
You know, I don't really knowif he has like the footprint

(46:32):
that I want him to have yet, andso well, he kind of kills it on
the boys.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, that's like a big thing which I haven't.
I've only seen like the firstseason, I don't know one person
that watches the boys so I don'tknow, but I know, I know it's
popular.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
I know it's popular and so that's great that he does
have his like his I don't wantto call it niche, because I know
that show is really popular,but that's good to know that he
does have his like meal ticketright there.
But now take that platform andcontinue to get into these,
these genre pictures and stuff.
So I mean, the log line forthis is is brief, it's very
short, but it's really enticingwhere it's just kind of like,

(47:06):
you know, some rich playboy hasa house at the lake and Sophie
Thatcher and her girls go thereand things go crazy or whatever,
and I don't even know if that'sreally accurate or not.
Again, like Sophie's face onthe poster, her eyes are cut out
and they're just all white,ominous, creepy.
I'm in, and so this, yeah,comes, comes to town, I believe,

(47:27):
this weekend, and so I'm reallyexcited to check this off the
watch list early on in the yearyeah, this isn't one of those
movies.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I've also steered clear of the the trailer because
I'm very intrigued and, um,it's being marketed like crazy
right now, so we'll see.
I'm curious about it.
I love jack quaid.
Um well, my next movie is diemy love, um, by lynn ramsey yeah
, yeah okay, cool, yeah, I um.

(47:54):
I was looking through my listand stuff.
I was like this is just areally standout movie to me just
because of, like, the twoleading characters alone.
Rob pattinson you know he'sgonna have quite the year and
jennifer lawrence may play amarried couple, um, and then
also we have lakeith stanfield,which I am a big, big fan.
Um, also sissy spacek nicknolte attached to it as well.

(48:20):
Um, I guess it's like a, anadaptation from a book, like a
french book, I think, and ittakes place.
It sounds like it's going totake place in like rural montana
.
Um, and dark comedy, horror iswhat it is, being um kind of
marketed as.
But sounds like jenniferlawrence's character is going to

(48:42):
have, um, you have, some mentalhealth issues.
Her marriage is kind of on therocks.
It sounds like she's having anaffair with Keith Stanfield and
it's just a battle with herpsychosis.
I did not find a whole lotabout this movie out there, but
I'm very, very attached to it.
So we'll see, we'll see, we'll,we'll see.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Lynn Ramsey is a filmmaker who I feel like when,
when she commits to a certaingenre or theme or tone I guess
is the best way to put it in herfilms she's very effective at
it Like I think about, we needto talk about Kevin and you were
never really there, probablyher two best films, and both of

(49:26):
those movies are darklyrewatchable, I would say,
because of how effective theyare.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
I've never seen any of her movies, but I've heard of
those when I was like oh, who'sLynn Ramsey?
And then I was like, oh, I'venever watched those.
But now and but like knowingthat, like you said, the tone
that's what made me add thismovie to my list is I'm very
intrigued.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
yeah just a great filmmaker and, yeah, go watch.
Uh, we need to talk about kevinand you were never really there
because cool they're fantasticI will a great scots woman yes,
yeah um.
My next film is from ryancoogler not doing a marvel
project.
We're very excited about thator a boxing movie or a boxing

(50:12):
movie and nothing to do with ipthis is an original idea from
the mind of ryan coogler calledsinners.
Uh, it's more vampire.
Uh, fic about, about those vampfic about those bloodsuckers in
the south during, uh, I thinkright after, the civil war.

(50:34):
Uh and so, and of coursestarring his boy, michael b
jordan man uh, playing a dualrole of twin brothers.
So you know that usually can goreally good or really bad,
we'll see what happens.
But my girl, haley Steinfeld,is also there to catch us if

(50:56):
things start to go haywire withthe twins.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Did he write the script for this?

Speaker 3 (51:01):
I believe.
Let me double check.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Writer Ryan Coogler, because ryan coogler writer ryan
coogler.
So I love hearing that, becausefor the longest time I feel
like um post nomad land and andthen kind of like the eternals
disrupted things a little bit.
But chloe xiao was supposed tobe making a vampire western and
so I was always really curiousif that's what sinners became
and if it was like, you know,like a script, like kind of like

(51:28):
a blacklisted script that likenobody could get made or
whatever and she.
But so it sounds like if thisis Kugler behind the story as
well, then it's.
It's probably different, but we, we have been wanting something
in the vein of near dark orJohn Carpenter's vampires, like
like, give us a Western vampiremovie.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, yeah, I'm excited for that one.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Uh, my next film is from a filmmaker, roman, roman
Garvis, um, who directed a filmthat's been on my watch list
forever and I've still yet tosee, but it's Athena.
And Athena, I know, is a verypopular movie, um, on Netflix
and kind of blew up during thepandemic when it came out, known
for its tracking shots and andsome of its choreography with

(52:13):
with different like riot scenesand things like that.
So Roman's an interestingfilmmaker he's.
He's making this movie with anall-star cast of folks that are
equally accomplished and alsovery trendy, and so it's always
interesting when a group ofpeople like this come together.
You have Anya Taylor-Joy, chrisEvans, vincent Casal, selma

(52:36):
Hayek, john Malkovich, but thenyou also have Charlie XCX and
some rapper named Young Lean inthis movie, and so I'm not sure
exactly what to expect out of it.
The quick log line is a failingmovie star who tries to get
back into the spotlight at acharity gala, gets un, gets
upstage and kidnapped by radicalvoters, and so if this is a

(53:02):
thriller comedy, I think I willlike it less than if it is just
like an action thriller.
And so, again, without knowingtoo much, but but hoping for
something that is prettystraight up and that maybe isn't
going for laps laughs, but thenstill have somebody like John
Malkovich or selma hayek inthere to kind of be, you know

(53:25):
like, if this is, um, if this islike savages selma hayek, then
I'm in.
And if and if john malkovich inthis movie is like burn after
reading john malkovich, wherehe's like the straight man but
he's really quippy in hisdelivery, then i'm'm good,
because Chris Evans and AnyaTaylor-Joy as our two potential

(53:45):
leads, I think that's a prettygood marriage right there for
lead actor and lead actress.
And then, yeah, just you know,a good, a good kidnapping film
Sounds like an original story,so I'm, I'm in on I guess I
didn't even say the title ofthis film.
It's called Sacrifice and itbegan filming in november of
2024, so hopefully we get it outsacrifice right yeah uh well,

(54:11):
my next pick is the new a24movie um opus, office opus um,
starring io.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
I can never pronounce her last name, it's like
edabiri um, and then johnmalkovich, which he's sounds
like he might, yeah I love him.
Um, but yeah, this is a new a24movie.
This is one of those.
I started to watch the trailerfor it because it just came out
last week and I started to watchit and they were showing too

(54:42):
much and I was.
I was already plugged in to thepremise, but just kind of
reading the little synopsis herea young writer is invited to
the remote compound of alegendary pop star who is John
Malkovich, who mysteriouslydisappeared 30 years ago.
Sounds like it's like a cultthing happening there.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
You had me at cult John Malkovich, like I was a24 I
mean, that's like this is whatI'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Like I'm trying not to like have these expectations
and trying to stay a littledetached from the actual plot.
But I'm already sold at thatvery little information and and
yeah, it sounds like from what Idid see from the trailer it
looks just kind of like.
It kind of gave me like themenu vibes a little bit, um,

(55:36):
because it sounds like she'sgoing to his, like she gets
invited to whatever he like thiscompound and it just there's
like a whole, there's a twist toit.
So we'll see, but I'm reallyexcited that comes out in March,
so we don't really have a wholelot of time to wait.

(55:57):
We also see Juliette Lewis,which I'm a big fan of, and
Murray bartlett who, um, we likebig white lotus fan.
I know alex likes white lotustoo.
Um, so I'm, I love the cast.
Um, the director is mark anthonygreen.
I was kind of and he wrote it.
Um, I don't really know, Idon't think he's really done a

(56:19):
whole lot.
Um, I don't really know hiswork or anything.
Um, I hadn't heard of him, but,um, yeah, writer director,
sounds like it's gonna be a.
Well, I'm, I'm curious, like Ithink I'll like it.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
I think I'll, I'm yeah, yeah, I've started to see
the the trailers for this aswell so I'm I'm keyed in on it,
I'm excited to see it on the bigscreen and and kind of, I mean
kind of one of the big likefirst releases of the year yeah
yeah, uh, I loved bow is afraida couple years ago and everyone

(56:57):
who doesn't love it is justwrong.
And ari aster, uh, is comingback to, unfortunately, to our
small screens on Netflix, buthopefully we can catch this
somewhere in a theater.
But nonetheless, I'm excited tosee a new Ari Aster film called
Eddington, which follows asmall town New Mexico sheriff

(57:19):
with higher aspirations.
This once again pairs him withJoaquin Phoenix.
Emma Stone is in this film.
Emma Stone is in this film.
Awesome Butler's in this film.
Pedro Pascal is in this film.
Clifton Collins Jr Comes up.
Alex's guy, luke Grimes from 50shades of gray, yeah, is is

(57:40):
here.
And this is another, anotherWestern from a non touruteur
filmmaker, original written byhim.
Uh, I'm just, I'm always,always in the bag for ari aster,
so cannot wait for that yeah, Idon't know where I'm at with
this one.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
I, I, I'm gonna be optimistic.
No, I just don't know where I'mat oh where you're at with it
with yeah, because part of me isjust like make a million
Midsommars.
And then part of me is like youcan't do that.
You have to do other things andyou're a creative person and
I'm sure you have a millionother stories that you want to
get out there.
But, yeah, that that littletrifecta of a 24 baby boys that

(58:30):
came up between Alex Garland,ari Aster and Robert Eggers I
just like I don't know where I'mat with with any of them now,
like I thought I hated AlexGarland now and then after Civil
War, I'm like are you myfavorite?

Speaker 3 (58:37):
out of the three.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
That's crazy, because coming off of Hereditary and
Midsommar, Ari were like thegolden child.
And then I don't think he tooka step back with Bo is afraid,
but he didn't.
He didn't go forward for me andhe's still in a great place.
He's still in a.
He I think Edgar's, edgar's andand um Garland are are the two

(59:00):
that I I think solve the most toprove for me right now.
Um are the two that I thinkstill have the most to prove for
me right now, especiallylooking at future projects and
where people are going withoriginality and adaptations and
different things like that.
So I love to see him, even ifit's with Netflix.
I love to see him sticking toan original story and an
original vision.
That cast just worries me,though.

(59:22):
I'm just like the more that Isee people like pedro pass.
I'm just like will people takethis serious?

Speaker 2 (59:29):
I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
I will not accept any pedro slander I just I hope he,
I hope he will actually be ableto act in this, because I just
think, listen, some people aresome, some people just become a
celebrity.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
I mean, and over an act, over being an actor, way
too fast.
And I'm not saying that Pedroflew too close to the sun or
anything like that, but I meangladiator gladiator too terrible
it's yeah it's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I only say that because I would if that man
proposed to me tomorrow.
I would he's like hands down,my, my dream man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
So yeah, I think he's going to be involved in
something else that's going tobe awesome this year the Last of
Us season two.
I mean and, and so I'm, I'mready for that.
But yeah, well, I'm Ari Aster,I'm still, I'm still in, we're
still in.
But yeah, well, ari Aster, I'mstill in, we're still in.
Okay, next movie for me iscalled Shell.
Shell is directed by MaxMangala, who most people will

(01:00:37):
know as the little kind ofsidekick to the Winklevoss twins
on the social network, so actorturned director here.
This movie actually premieredat TIFF, the Toronto
International Film Festival, in2024.
And I feel like is having areally tough time getting
distribution because I can'tfind a release date for this

(01:00:58):
film, although it's alreadygotten a lot of stuff written
about it critically coming outof TIFF.
I'm going to read this andit's's gonna sound like a
substance ripoff and I hopethat's why people aren't afraid
to distribute it.
But it almost sounds like thesubstance mixed with a greater
conspiracy, like not like ajames bond or mission impossible

(01:01:22):
type film.
But let's just see what youguys feel after hearing this
paragraph of a synopsis.
Struggling actress, samantha isgiven an opportunity to get a
free trial at Shell, apioneering health and beauty
company that promises to keepits clients looking young
forever.
Samantha's life and career aretransformed by the treatment and

(01:01:46):
she develops a burgeoningfriendship with Shell's CEO.
When a string of former Shellpatients go missing under
mysterious circumstances,including popular social media
star Chloe Benson, samanthastarts to fear that she may be
in danger herself.
Here's your three leadactresses Elizabeth Moss, lover
Kate Hudson, never seen before,to fear that she may be in
danger herself.
Here's your three leadactresses elizabeth moss, lover,

(01:02:06):
kate hudson never see heranymore lover.
And kaya gerber, who is one ofthe most beautiful creatures on
planet earth and I think isperfect for a role like this.
Um, this movie could end upbeing you have one of the hame
sisters in here like a goodlittle supporting cast
underneath them.
This movie could end up beingreally bad.

(01:02:28):
It does not have a great ratingalready.
On letterbox it's like 3.2middle of the pack.
But I'm just.
It's always interesting to seewhen a movie has a big moment
like the substance.
Then you know what's thefallout from that and who are,
what are the substance copycatsgonna be, and so, if this turns
in to kind of like a littleneo-noir, oh, we have to solve a

(01:02:50):
mystery.
Um, you know of some, some,some people who have gone
missing or who have tried thistreatment before me and yada,
yada, yada.
I'm like I'm, I'm in, I'll beseated for this if we ever get
it.
I'm just.
The whole distribution thing isreally weird, the fact that it
it played it to if last year andjust has there's nobody

(01:03:11):
attached to it yet as far as umdistribution.
So it's not a great um, butit's in the watch list.
I'm looking at who else's watchlist that it's in.
It's some person on letterboxd,I don't know them personally and
it's rachel macaulay and solike just the macaulays are in
on on max, mingala and shell, sohopefully that is either good
or like awesomely bad okay, well, um, my next one is a stop

(01:03:38):
motion dark fantasy coming outof laika oh, yes, yes, yeah, uh,
wildwood by director travisknight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Saw this on your list and then looked it up, I was
coming out of Laika.
Oh, yes, yes, I heard.
Yeah, this is Wildwood bydirector Travis Knight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Saw this on your list and then looked it up, I was
like, oh fun.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I know I'm really excited and you know, laika, as
we know, did Coraline and that'sone of my all-time favorite
movies.
Travis Knight did Kubo and thetwo strings looks like another,
like a film.
Yeah, and, and he's the CEO oflike a actually uh, which I'm
just finding out.
Um, but yeah, this movie takesplace, has a killer cast.

(01:04:14):
I just have to kind of read offsome of these people Carrie
Mulligan, mahershala Ali, jacobTremblay, charlie Day Jake
Johnson, jacob Tremblay, CharlieDay Jake Johnson.
I'm super.
I will say if there is a movieI'm attached to, it is this
because I would love to, youknow, just reignite my love for
animation this year.

(01:04:35):
Copycat, yeah, and I love stopmotion, like fantasy that I just
this really sounded like abeautiful movie to me and it's
takes place.
So Wildwood is sounds like,it's like a little place right
out on the outskirts of Portlandwhich, like studios, is

(01:04:58):
actually outside of Portlandside of Portland, and so it
follows it.
So this is actually a bookadaptation.
A young girl, prue, and herbest friend, curtis, are drawn
into a hidden magical forestafter Prue's younger brother,
mac, is kidnapped by a murder ofcrows who are led by the
mysterious Alexandra Talkinganimals, bandits and more

(01:05:22):
inhibit the forest, indicatingWildwood might have a
frightening tone like Coraline.
So honestly, it just soundslike right up my alley.
Like I said, coraline isextremely near and dear to my
heart and I never saw Kubo.
I don't know that it was likesomething that I was really
interested in, but, learningabout Wildwood, I'm very

(01:05:46):
attached to this idea so I haveCoraline is still like ever
present in in the youth today,which I think you'll be happy to
know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Um, or you probably already do know, I ordered a
bunch of vinyl stickers of ofCoraline because you know, give
them out as little incentives inschool and stuff like that.
About 15 of them are of theother mother and they're
terrifying and they're like inan envelope in my desk because
I'm like I can neveraccidentally give these out to a
kid and then like get introuble for handing out this
like this horror propaganda onthis like horror merchandise.

(01:06:18):
So I will, I'll hook you upwith some some pretty sickaline
stickers next week.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Coraline is very alive and I don't think it'll
ever be Like Stumptown Coffee.
Did this special edition coldbrew can that had Coraline on it
and I literally have it had ahuge box office this year.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
There's art installations that travel around
the country still.
Yeah, it was in the top 10 fora couple of weeks last year in
2024 box office-wise it'samazing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
So, uh, seeing more movies like come out from Leica
are always exciting.
They're really doing likeawesome things down there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
So a hundred percent yeah it's a great one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Uh, okay, this next movie?
I don't.
I don't know if we even knowwhat this is called, because on
IMDb it.
We even know what this iscalled because on imdb it's
called untitled paul thomasanderson event film.
On letterbox it's called thebattle of back tan cross.
On the poster that was recentlyreleased it's called one battle
after another.
All I know is that pta ismaking a film.

(01:07:20):
Uh, it's going to be an imax,his one.
I think the first one of hisfilms to to be filmed in imax
and shown on imax.
Uh, we've got, and we've gotleonardo dicaprio in this film.
Uh, and listen, I'm I'm a ptatruther.
Uh, licorice pizza did notleave a bad taste in my in my

(01:07:40):
mouth.
Um, I will be there day one, uhto to see this film and and
hopefully see it multiple times.
I cannot wait.
Uh, one of the masters you know, uh, modern masters is is
releasing a film this year.
We're so excited, uh, so pta.
Whatever the film ends up beingcalled, uh, we can't.

(01:08:02):
Is there a synopsis?
Yet, no synopsis.
I do have a running, a rumoredrunning time 170 minutes, which
is completely too long butnothing compared to the
brutalist yeah, that's, that'strue.
After after surviving thebrutalist I was at 215, 215
minutes.
Yeah, yeah, feed me whatever.

(01:08:22):
Um.
But also some other players inthis film is Regina Hall, sean
Penn, elena Ham, benicio DelToro, tiana Taylor so love Tiana
Taylor.
Yeah, cannot wait, wood Harris.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Yeah, love seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Wood Harris in films, so cannot wait for this PTA.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
I'm always down for anything Leo's in, to be totally
honest too, so yeah, Well,that's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
The other great thing , too, is that Leo DiCaprio
returns to the set in this.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I don't want to say that Leo needs a quote-unquote
good movie, but I feel like Leoneeds a big performance.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
We need another.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Revenant performance.
We need a big Leoo performance.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
He seems to be the center of this film yeah all the
marketing is centered aroundhim.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
That's good um, and he looks ridiculous and I hope
that means, I hope that meanssomething still, because it
didn't for killers of the flowermoon, you know, like marketing
wise, sure you know?
Um, and I guess, like awardsbody, oh, you know,
consideration or whatever.
So I, I'm, I'm again hoping,truly hoping for the best for

(01:09:33):
this film.
Um, I just, yeah, is this a?

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
it's a theatrical release you said right, imax,
okay good august 8th.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Good, good, good, good, okay, nice into summer,
something to look forward to.
Okay, my next two films are, ifyou know, sacrifice, shell,
companion.
I think those are gonna be fun.
Those are gonna be like verypulpy.
Um.
My next two are are movies thatI'm actually really excited for
because they're directed by bykind of two of my guys.

(01:10:04):
I was looking through and, um,you know, there's people that
I'm obviously really interestedin their career, like a PTA,
like a Kelly Reichardt, otherfolks that I'm excited to see
what they do Ryan Coogler, youknow, like let's go, like let's
keep making good movies.
These next two for me arepeople that I, I, I truly have

(01:10:25):
loved some of their movies andthey're really, really important
to me.
So I'll start with no otherchoice.
This is a new film by park chanwook.
Park chan wook has been doing alot of tv recently and and
that's fine he's also been umkind of contracted out like um
by apple just to like make thesereally long commercials that

(01:10:46):
kind of turn into short films,and I don't fault him for that.
I mean, we're talking about theguy that made old boy and
stoker and the handmaiden which,in the last like seven years
has become one of my favoritemovies, like a top 100 movie for
me, and so Park Chan-wook issomebody that I I don't think

(01:11:07):
we've ever really gotten to dolike a big episode on him before
or something, but I would.
I would love to.
If the release of this movie isgoing to really turn into
something.
What I have right now for noother choice is that it it
wrapped filming this month, inJanuary of of 2025.
So hopefully that meanspost-production and everything
else can can get this film outto us this year.

(01:11:28):
Um, uh, the, the.
The cast for this movie is likea lot of his other movies um
are, you know, internationalactors, folks that we don't have
a very long, um standingrelationship with?
But the?
The quick log line is afterbeing unemployed for several
years, a man devises a uniqueplan to secure a new job

(01:11:49):
eliminate his competition.
I'm, I'm in yeah, like knowing II you know, decision to leave
was another like, uh, one ofthose kind of forgotten about
pandemic movies, I think wasreally really really strong,
really really great, yeah, um,and so there's again, there's
like all the reason in the worldto believe that this movie is

(01:12:09):
going to be really strong andreally exciting.
Um, you know, internationalcinema, something else we always
want to champion on here and soreally excited for that movie,
fingers crossed that it's a 2025release.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Yeah, Park Chan-wook uhook much like pta, just kind
of like a modern master out hereat work and uh always got to
make time for, for those guyswhen, yeah, guys and gals when
they, when they put something onthe screen, for sure well, my
last movie is one that I amtrying really hard to not get it

(01:12:43):
like just leave allexpectations at the door, and
that is 28 years later.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Um, directed by danny boyle himself.
He's back, he's back, and wehave our writer, alex garland,
which I love.
So I we get this movieofficially in June.
I mean, I am, there's a trailerout, I've seen a little bit of

(01:13:11):
it and it looks sick, but I'mnot watching anything else.
I am not.
I'm really just like, like Isaid, leaving all expectations
at the door because I, 28 daysand weeks later, are very near

(01:13:32):
and dear to my upbringing andand into horror too.
I mean these we're talking likeog, post-apocalyptic, like
zombie film, right, and like I,I love, I loved both.
I'm really excited to finallysee that this movie, you know,

(01:13:52):
has a release date and you knowI've it's been in talks for a
long time.
Um got an interesting cast.
We have um.
Who do we have?
We have have Aaron TaylorJohnson.
Looks like he is the maincharacter, which I I'll leave my
comments alone with that.
You know, I'm kind ofinfamously not a huge ATJ fan,

(01:14:17):
but we all do.
We also have Jodi Comer, whichI love her.
We have Ray Fines love her.
We have ray fines, um, and thenI'm sure that we will get um a
little appearance by um.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Why do I always have a brain fart with?

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
killing, killing.
Yeah, we will there.
There's definitely talks thathe will for sure be in it, we
just don't know in what regard.
Um, so I'm I'm really like Ican't lie, I'm really stoked
about this, this movie.
I think this will be aninteresting start to summer and,
um, I have high hopes justknowing that danny is coming

(01:14:55):
back as the director, because hedid direct the, the first one.
Um, and then you know, like I'mteam alex garland days.
I'm really like about him.
I'm loving just his, his vibe,his style.
Obviously, like Civil War isone of my favorites, but seeing
him as a writer on somethinglike this is like exciting for

(01:15:17):
me as a new fan of him.
So, um, yeah, I don't reallythink there's like other
introduction I need, because, Imean, I think most of us have
seen 28 days later.
It's pretty epic.
So, um, yeah, we'll see whathappens with this.
What do you guys think aboutthis movie?

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
yeah, I'm excited.
I the only thing I worry aboutis that this is the start of a
of a trilogy.
Yeah, and I don't want to beleft, you know, edged, uh, but
I'm very excited to see rayfines covered in blood walking
through a skull forest me too uhjacked up that man can do no

(01:15:55):
wrong um, yeah uh, so yeah, Imean fast zombies.
Uh, 28 days later, as you said,also like danny boyle, another
guy who, like you know what haveyou done for me lately?
So excited to?
Kind of excited to see him goback to the roots, but also,
like I don't know, just excitedto see that he's still making

(01:16:16):
films, because he hasn't in along time.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
I feel like the right .
He did the train spotting 2sequel um, which might have been
his most recent film, I don'tknow.
I think he's been doing a lotof TV as well.
The, the, the Danny Boyle, alexGarland writer, director combo
is as important to me as maybelike someone who grew up in the

(01:16:41):
80s with, like De Palma andOliver Stone, making Scarface
because Garland and Boyle arebehind the beach.
Alex Garland wrote the book,which was turned into the
screenplay for the beach, and Iknow people laugh at the beach
and they like to make fun of thebeach.
I did not know that thescreenplay for the beach.
And now I know people laugh atthe beach and they like to make
fun of the beach.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
I did not know that and I love the beach.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
The beach is an all-time alex mccauley certified
banger oh, that's so good wherelike that I love alex even.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
I love alex, my friend, and alex garland even
more now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
That's so great he wrote the novel like he wrote
the book for the beach, and thenit's adapted into the
screenplay that Danny Boyledirects with Leo and I think for
so many different reasons.
The beach is a fascinating, oneof the most fascinating movies
to ever come out, honestly, likein the 21st century, just
because it's like three yearspost Titanic and so like Leo is

(01:17:33):
a huge star, but he's not likethe Leonardo Diaprio now that
we're talking about headlining apta movie 25 years later and is
like the boldface capital, alist movie star celebrity that
we kind of have right now, um,and then danny boyle to make to
make that movie in a run offilms that is still like, really
, really solid.

(01:17:53):
Like the first train spottingthe beach 28 days later, comes a
few years after that, and solike, really, really solid, like
the first train spotting thebeach 28 days later, comes a few
years after that, and so like Ihope that we can rekindle this,
this magic that we once had, um, and turn it into a movie that
I think is going to be huge.
Like I think this movie do youhave a release date for it?
it's it's june 20th oh okay,this movie's gonna make 100

(01:18:14):
million dollars, oh yeah oh yeah, this could be like the biggest
summer release oh, yeah, yeahthat's awesome

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
that's like I have butterflies yeah, and not the
only garland properly propertycoming out this year warfare
right another movie calledwarfare.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Yeah I love him.
I just love this guy like, ohman, he's really like like
scratching an itch for me, likeI don't know.
I mean, I'm just really comingto like this alex garland like
fandom for myself and I'm like,I'm on board, I I'm supportive

(01:18:51):
of him uh, you know what Ibelieve in.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
I believe our lives are the sum of our choices.
Okay, and this summer we get tosee the final choice that Ethan
Hunt has to make.
Yeah, this is true, tom Cruiseis returning to the screen to
once again save cinema in a timethat we need people in the

(01:19:21):
theaters more than ever.
Mission Impossible the finalreckoning will be released.
This is it.
This is the swan song I'mtotally going in with.
Like this, we will never seeanother mission impossible movie
again, and I hope that's true.
Yeah, to make this run, becausewhat this is?

(01:19:41):
Movie eight now in the seriesyeah, and I, I just I'm so
excited.
Uh, mission impossible willalways get me in, even though
dead reckoning was a little bitof a letdown again because of
this whole one part, two partkind of thing that movies pull
now.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Which I guess we should now be what?
Is the appendage on thisMission Impossible, the final
Reckoning.
So I guess we should refer toDead Reckoning part one as the
first Reckoning.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
Oh, they dropped the part one.
Oh, did they.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
It's just called Dead Reckoning, that would have been
so cool to have a piece ofphysical media that still had
part one on it.
Damn Really, huh, that's funny,they dropped it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
In the trailer.
I will watch every trailer.
I will watch every featuretteleading up to this.
I mean, it's a missionimpossible movie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Whose decision do you think that was?

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Tom, not Krasinski or what's the name?
Joseph, uh, christopher mccorry, christopher mccorry, that's
right.
Yeah, yeah, uh.
No, it was definitely tom.
Tom pulls all the strings here.
Christopher mccorry actuallyjust gave a interview saying
that one of the crew memberslike fainted during one of the
stunts.
Okay, uh, because of what tomcruise is doing in this film oh

(01:20:49):
gosh I cannot wait to see that alittle worried about a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
That's great publicity.
That's great publicity we'reexcited, we're.
We're so jacked uh I thinkcoming out of dead reckoning
part one, no, the firstreckoning I think, coming out of
the first reckoning, we wereboth like we would have loved to
have seen more submarine stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Yeah yeah, and I I think there's going to be a lot
good, a lot of underwater stuntsgoing on here, uh, in the
arctic or in a pool in the backlot but yeah, wherever this
submarine is.
But yeah, I can't wait.
Uh, in the trailer, tom cruiselooks straight down the barrel
at the audience and says I seeyou at the movies.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
I need you to trust me one last time and you know,
you had, you had me, I need yeahyeah and I need.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
I need anything, jump how high, anything, yeah, so
yeah, I mean it's gonna be a bigdumb movie, but it's probably
going to be my favoriteexperience at the theater.
Yeah so.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
So that'll probably end up being the biggest summer
release and it will be fun tosee.
It'll be fun to have a summerwhere mission impossible, where
a mission impossible movie canplay in the theaters for like
eight weeks without beingstymied by something like the
barbenheimer movement.

(01:22:07):
Yeah, because you know,thinking right now about how you
saying like, you know, you'llpotentially be in la for the
release of this movie, and Iknow we, we caught half of the
first reckoning at, uh, at thechinese theater, right, yeah,
and and so I, you know, but thatwas, we were almost surprised

(01:22:28):
that it was still, that it wasstill on the screen, even you
know.
And so to for this, for this tohave a full summer, feels right
, yeah, we owe it to Tom God.
Just going back to the Oscars,remember when Top Gun Maverick
was nominated for best picture?

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Yeah, yeah, we can't give Dune part two.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
It's, it's it's credit.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Not that Dune part two isn't nominated for best
picture, but like, what are wedoing?
Um, okay, my, my final filmhere that I'm anticipating this
year at least that we'reshouting out on this episode
luca guadagnino, this guydoesn't know how to not make
movies.
Yeah, he's, he's continuing tocrush it.
He has a film coming out thisyear, called after the hunt,

(01:23:09):
which sounds much more like abigger splash and I'm not the
huge, a huge, bigger splash kindof guy, but this sounds a
little bit more like those thoseinteresting interpersonal
relationships that have athrilling nature to them, aside
from just like a dramatic orkind of like action pace to it,

(01:23:32):
whereas so like, if you're goingto say something like, um, you
don't call me by your name islike sentimental and romantic.
It's still a drama at its corebut there's it's not really like
thrilling in, in a sense, abigger splash.
A remake of Lapa scene, one ofmy favorite movies ever, does
have some real intrigue to itbecause there's potentially a

(01:23:55):
murder.
You know that's going to takeplace in a film like that, and
so Bones and all I think is thisgreat, awesome horror outlier,
you know, and that's not reallythe direction that this movie
sounds like it's going in, butreally excited to see what he
can do with a premise like this.
Finds herself at a personal andprofessional crossroads when a
star pupil levels an accusationagainst one of her colleagues

(01:24:18):
and a dark secret from her ownpast threatens to come to light.
This sounds awesome not onlybecause it's luca at the helm,
but because your cast includesjulia roberts, io edabiri,
andrew garfield, michaelstolberg and chloe 70 awesome oh
yeah, I'm definitely there yeah.
So set it on a university campus.

(01:24:39):
Let's have people in roomstalking about steamy drama, you
know, sexual accusations, throwin some some.
There doesn't need to be likemurder mystery or anything like
that, but like just some thrills, some real stakes.
This movie feels to me likeit's going to have some real
stakes and to see somebody likeJulia Roberts who I wouldn't say

(01:25:01):
is like, you know, inretirement or just kind of like
off, you know doing whatever,making movies with George
Clooney every five years orwhatever, but it's just kind of
like let's see someone like hercome back the way that she did
and leave the world behind andall of a sudden show us that
like she's still got it, youknow.
And and can lead a movie andthrow the fastball when you're

(01:25:22):
working with someone like Luca,absolutely.
So I love, I love the dynamicsthat we can get here between
these actors in this film.
Um, and you know, maybe we'lljust maybe we'll decide next
year that luca needs to berecognized for for his work.
Um, if we don't, though, that'sokay, we will continue to to
bang the drum for for our guyluca here on the pod.

(01:25:42):
So, really, looking forward toto that one, and I believe this
movie, I this movie is almostguaranteed to come out this year
, because filming wrapped inaugust of 2024, which once again
just speaks to the prolificnature of this guy.
He released two movies lastyear and he shot this film
before we were even back inschool in September.

(01:26:03):
He's a beast, what the fuck man.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
He's a monster.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
It's awesome.
Okay, so I texted you guys andI said just because we're a
movie podcast doesn't mean wehave to only shout out films.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
I'm so glad you said that too, because there's some
good shows coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
I think that, whereas I love the diversity of picks
that we all gave here today, andI think that there's going to
be a lot of room for growth inour anticipation as well, for
different movies, like we talkedabout, that are just going to
pop up in the middle of summeror pop up, you know, in spooky
season next year some horrorfilms that we don't even know
about yet, and so, alwaysexcited for those films, um and

(01:26:42):
and for upcoming projects thatwe don't quite know about yet, I
think that this might be abetter pop culture year than it
is, at least right now.
The the, the pulse reading thatI'm getting is this is going to
be a huge pop culture year andI think that's going to bleed
over into movies.
But just generally speaking,what else are we anticipating in

(01:27:04):
2025?

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
I mean you mentioned it earlier the Last of Us 2.
I'm literally replaying thevideo game as we speak.
I'm on pause at my house rightnow.
I love the Last of Us us.
Are the games scary?
It is truly.
I have a pinched nerve in myback right now from playing it.
I've played it a few times.
Um, I've played the last of uslike um a long time ago.

(01:27:29):
I remember, like with like aboyfriend and watched him play.
We kind of like took turns, butI, during covid, um, my friend
and I, we bought the last of ustwo and um, yeah, it is very
anxiety inducing.
But if you like stuff like, ifyou like playing video games,
like so do you know where seasontwo is gonna go storyline

(01:27:52):
unfortunately, I mean, yes, I do, and they're like, if you've
played the game, you know likesome shit goes down and it's
crazy because, um, we have Idon't want to spoil anything
just because, um, but thecasting is already out there and
we have like a new, you knowgirl on the scene and, um, you

(01:28:14):
do play her character on thevideo game.
It's kind of split between thetwo and it's interesting.
So I do, unfortunately, knowwhat goes down.
It's going to be a.
Really, if they follow thevideo game, this this season
will be wild.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
That's what I'm hoping for, because my one gripe
with season one was that I feltlike the stakes weren't always
there, because I always feltlike, like our two main
characters at the end of seasonone would still be together,
like we're going to get backtogether.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
In season two.
From what I'm hearing, it'slike that might not be the case,
so I'm excited for there to bethis element of of surprise
behind some of these episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Have either of you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
I've never played one of your games.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Have you played the game?

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
I've played the first one.
I've never played the secondone Do you know I know, yeah,
you do know,

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Okay, how do you know what are you doing?
You know there was a time whereI was very plugged into game
culture.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
I mean I think that when part two came out, I mean
there's definitely like likespoilers ahead.
I'm not gonna tell you whathappens, but I will just say
like there is something reallyjarring that happens pretty
early on in the game and thatwent viral like around like
during the time, and it was abig deal.

(01:29:35):
The last of us is a wildlysuccessful video game and, um,
when part two released, it wasjust there was so much hype.
It was that came out in 2020, Ibelieve, and um, yeah, it was,
it was a big deal and so, yeah,there it's, it's I'm.
I love that there are peoplewho've never played the game,

(01:29:56):
who have, who are super tappedinto the show, like my dad loves
the show, but he has no idealike video game adaptation yeah,
and he's like wait.
Like I, I'm so excited to seewhat happens for part two and
I'm just like, well, buckle up,friend, it's gonna be wild.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
I do love that.
Uh, caitlin devers, yes,joining the show.
Because c because CaitlinDevers was my like fan casting
for Ellie.
So the fact that she is in theshow now as someone else.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
It's interesting.
She's the character that likeyeah, so it's an interesting
cast choice.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
I know I could get so hyped about it, but I'm excited
about that show okay uh, I'mvery excited about night of the
seven kingdoms oh, the next gotanother got spinoff.
Game of thrones is kind of oneof the only tv series I really
keep up with these days.
So, uh, I will always, alwayswatch stuff from that universe.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Where are we in this?

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
This is the Dunk and the Egg.
I believe it's a prequel to theGame of Thrones, but I think it
is what did you say?

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
What Dunk?

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Do you remember Dunk and the Egg?

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
Dunk and the Egg Dunk and Egg Dunk and Egg Dunk and
Egg no.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
I think it was brought up during Game of
Thrones.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
It's a story, so it's a prequel.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
It's another prequel, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
I think it's maybe even before House of Dragon.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
So they're going further back, okay, all right.
We're in Westeros, though we'redefinitely house of dragon,
okay, so they're just they're.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
They're going further back, okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Yeah, we're in westeros though we're definitely
in westeros okay awesome withwith like no dragons probably no
, I think, I think there aredragons okay I'm in yeah, I'm in
.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
I'm not, it wasn't a big like house of dragon.
I couldn't really get intohouse of dragon, but that's a
common statement and I think theconsensus is like season one
you got to push through aboutfive to six episodes, which is
like kind of an indictment onyour storytelling and like your
pacing when you tell people likeyou just got to commit five

(01:32:11):
hours of your life and then itgets good, but like Once it
jumps in time.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
Yes, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
I know people love it .
I've and I'm a huge.
I love game of thrones, but Idon't know yeah, um, I have a
few things here.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
The first one that I want to talk about, um, is
really exciting because thefirst, the first chapter of this
experience begins next week,and that is the weekend
releasing his new album hurry uptomorrow oh, we're going album
I'm all pop culture, all popculture the reason why I
mentioned this, though, isbecause the weekend who is a a

(01:32:50):
pioneer in the music industryand who is so tapped in to
different creative influences,um, um, you know he was somebody
that paid a huge tribute toDavid Lynch when he passed away,
and so many of his music videoshave been fashioned off of
themes from David Lynch movies.
Um so, and you know what he didand what with Sam Levinson on

(01:33:13):
the idol has been mocked andridiculed, but, like you love
when people just take chancesand go for it, so I'm really
excited to see kind of thelyrical themes of his new album,
hurry Up Tomorrow, which comesout next week.
But I'm almost more intriguedat the film that is going to
accompany this release, which isis also titled Hurry Up

(01:33:36):
Tomorrow.
It's directed by a guy namedTrey Edward Schultz, who
directed the A24 film Waves andit Comes at Night, which are
movies that I think are prettysuccessful.
It Comes at Night doesn't fullyget there for me ever, but it's
one of these weird movies that,every five years, i'm'm like
maybe I'll revisit it andfinally catch what I was missing
, kind of like Jordan Peele's Us, and I'm like no, my problem.

(01:33:59):
The problems that I have withit are still like there and
valid, but it's a reallyinteresting movie, so that's
fair Waves is amazing, thoughWaves is awesome.
So Trey Edward Schultz,interesting filmmaker the Weeknd
, is starring in this film withJenna Ortega, barry Keoghan and
Charlie D'Amelio, and so, again,just like we're going, very

(01:34:20):
we're going, we're like playingto the TikTok babies, but also
like a psychological thrillerand an extension of the Weeknd's
upcoming album of the same name.
Let's go Like we could bespending our money making, you
know, another movie about thanos, and I'm just, I'm happy that
there's people that areinterested in doing things other

(01:34:41):
than that, and so I don't knowwho does this.
The beatles yellow submarine,like who, who releases an album
and then is like we're gonnaalso do a movie.
So I'm really, really excitedfor that.
Um, as a huge weekend fan andand to see what you know, we, we
put on the big screen and thenmentioned it earlier that I'm
completely in on um, along with,you know, a million other

(01:35:20):
people.
You know super successful show,but cannot wait for this season
in Thailand.
Um, for a few reasons CarrieCoon as one of the lead actors
in it, someone who, going backto the leftovers, just like been
in love with her forever.
So Carrie Coon being in thecast, lisa from black blackpink,
um, can't wait to see what shedoes.
Hbo has tagged a lot of thegirls um, from that kind of

(01:35:43):
k-pop group and you know jennywas in the idol with the the
weekend that I just mentioned,and now lisa getting to be in
this one.
I'm really excited to kind ofsee their careers start to
transition onto um, the silverscreen and so that that'll be
really fun and interesting.
And then, um, the nine inchnails are going back on tour

(01:36:03):
this year.
Guys and I already got ticketsand so that's like huge bucket
list to see Trent um you knowAtticus joined the group about
10 years ago or whatever it was,and so like to see these guys
hopefully not only play nineinch nail songs that I grew up
loving, but also like, can weget some challenger score in
there?
Can we get some like socialnetwork score in there?

(01:36:24):
Like it'd be really cool to seehim kind of touch everything.
So a lot of stuff going on inpop culture that that I'm
excited about this year, evengoing back to video games, like
if we get Grand Theft Auto 6, amI going to play it?

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Probably that would be the biggest that might be the
biggest moment in pop culture,yeah totally For the whole year
it will be.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
We can't do a most anticipated episode of anything
media related and not talk aboutGrand Theft Auto 6, because
this game's been anticipated forlike 10 years.
Yep, it's going to be huge.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
I'm just trying to get tickets to see Kendrick guys
, that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
I care Kendrick and Tyler, my two favorite rappers
of all time.
Kendrick doing the Super Bowl.
Kendrick doing the Super Bowl,don't.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
I know it.
With my girl SZA.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
SZA.
Yeah who he's going to be ontour with.
Great music tours this year.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
I know great music tours this year.
I know um, but yeah, there's,it's a, it is a good, like pop
culture year um another, acouple more movies to just shout
out that are really on my on mywatch list um yorgo's new movie
begonia.
After reading like the taglinefor it, I'm really I don't know
anything about this twoconspiracy obsessed young men.
I'm already sat kidnap thehigh-powered ceo sat of a major

(01:37:40):
company, convinced that she isan alien intent on destroying
planet earth.
I'm your ghost interesting yeah,another one too, yeah he's
really he's like up there withum luca look with luca, you know
in my eyes, like when you'retalking about him I'm just
thinking of yorkos, because he'sjust always like the firing

(01:38:02):
rate yeah yeah, but that movieis definitely on my radar.
Um, I've got a couple other onestoo.
Like, um, there's a moviecoming out called love me it.
It has like really like mixedreviews, but I'm really
interested in it.
It has Steven Yeun and KristenStewart.

(01:38:23):
They apparently like spans thetime of like billions of years,
it's it looks really profound.
I know a lot of people are kindof talking about it being like
like what the fuck is this?
But it's like they literallystart off as like a buoy and a
satellite.
They meet online after humanhumanity's existence and then it

(01:38:48):
kind of like they learn whatlife was like on earth and then
they're also kind of discoveringlike the meaning of life and
love and the two it's I don'tknow.
I think it looks really cute,but I have read some reviews and
people are just kind of likethis was not like.
This was kind of a swing and amiss.

(01:39:08):
But I'll still keep my eye onit.
I'm.
I love Steven Yeun and andseeing the two of them together
is very interesting to me,because Kristen Stewart is kind
of showing me that she canreally like kill it on screen,
like I loved her last year inLove Lies Bleeding.
Looks like an interesting rolefor her to be in.

(01:39:29):
And then there's something elsethat I was really oh, the
monkey.
You know we haven't talked aboutthis and I know I'm kind of
like a long legs hater, but thisis where I'm like.
There is a pretty long teaserfor this out that you can watch
and this comes out like nextmonth, I believe next in.

(01:39:50):
February and I have.
I really don't know anythingabout this, but I'm going to.
I'm going to give it a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Could be the first of two Osgood Perkins films this
year, as well.
He has one called Keeper.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
OK.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
It'll be released later in the year, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
And I think the monkey is based on a Stephen
King yeah, short story, shortstory.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
Yeah, yeah, I had another one from.
This is actually on my mostanticipated 2024 list and this,
the movie just didn't come out,and so hopefully that means it
doesn't sit in inpost-production or distribution
hell for you know, another twoyears, um, but jim jarmusch is

(01:40:32):
hopefully going to releasefather, or get to release father
, mother, sister, brother thisyear, and so I'm really looking
forward to that as well.
Um, and then a couple of justkind of like trashy ones, like
really excited for ScottDerrickson's the gorge with, uh,
anya Taylor, joy and milesteller, our little group chat
with our buddy Marcus, has kindof been popping off about what

(01:40:52):
that movie um could be about.
So that that's exciting.
There's a few movies thateither got pushed to 2026, julia
Ducourneau's new film with a 24alpha I wanted to talk about on
this episode, but I thinkthat's been pushed.
One that I'm really excited for, victorian psycho, which is
from Zachary Wigginigan, whodirected one of my favorite

(01:41:15):
movies, um of this of thisdecade, um sanctuary.
He is teaming back up withmargaret qually for a film um
that also stars thompsonmckenzie and I believe that, um,
this could be a vampire story.
Um, it's kind of what it soundslike.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
So that's this year hoping for this year.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
I've seen some things say 2025.
I've seen some things that say2026.
So, um, you just kind of neverknow this early on in the year.
Um, and then the.
This is this is the one.
This is the one when, whenflesh of the gods by panos
costamos comes out, this is theone where I will be there with
you as an Oscar Isaac fan.

(01:41:55):
I will be there as a KristenStewart fan, like I think this
is maybe another vampire movie.
Yeah, Um so give me.
Flesh of the gods?
Yeah, give me.
I think I think Victorianpsycho might be more of a
cannibal movie than a vampiremovie.
Um, just from what I'm kind ofreading.
But like there, in the nextcouple of years, I'm telling you

(01:42:15):
the genre movies, just likeyeah the monster movie is alive.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
I mean, I can sit here and list all day uh,
jurassic world rebirth by GarethEdwards.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
Yeah, you kidding me, I'm down.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
I love that pick as a director, and you've got
Scarlett Johansson, mahershalaAli.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Mah I'm down.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
I love that pick as a director, and you've got
Scarlett Johansson, MahershalaAli.
Mahershala Ali is playing a DrLoomis in this movie, which you
can't do but like.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
I'm here for it.
Adopted son of Malcolm McDowell, I guess From the Rob Zombie
Halloween movies.
Yeah, and Donald Pleasance yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
Okay, predator, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Uh, predator badlands yeah, I'mexcited for that.
Yeah, um, famous is a comedycoming out by jody hill starring
zach efron and bill pullman.
Can't wait for that.
Uh, roof man from derrick.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Uh, clan france, uh who, oh, derrick's of france.
So who did?
Who did?
Place Beyond the Pines?
Yeah, place Beyond the Pinesand Blue Velvet.
Blue Valentine.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
Not Blue Velvet, Blue Valentine.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Yeah, great director, who we haven't heard from in a
long time.
Right, what's that called?

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
It's called Roof man, roof man.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
Starring Channing Tatum.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
Interesting yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
I Want your Sex from.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
Greg Ariake.

Speaker 3 (01:43:39):
Matt Rush told me about that film and said to
shout it out.
I Love Boosters from BootsRiley F1, starring Brad Pitt.
Jay Kelly is a new NoahBaumbach movie.
Black Bag is another Soderberghmovie.
Blue Moon is a Linklater movie.
Oh I did see that.
Yeah, the Running man is aremake from Edgar Wright and

(01:44:04):
starring Glenn Powell, highestto lowest.
Highest to lowest from SpikeLee and.
Denzel Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
Remaking the.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Kurosawa film Good Luck, have Fun, don't Die.
Starring Sam Rockwell, directedby Gore Verbinski.
Welcome back to the movies,gore Verbinski.
What's this called?
Good Luck, have Fun, don't Die.
Who else is in it?
Sam Rockwell?

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
I don't need to Haley .

Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
Richardson.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
Haley Lou Richardson.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Michael Pena.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
I'll watch anything with Haley Lou I don't watch
anything directed by Gore.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
Are we so excited for ?

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
this year yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
I'm telling you, wait a sec.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:44:47):
I don't want to get like too high, but I'm pretty
high on this year Weapons byZack Crager, who of course did
barbarian.
Oh yeah, yeah, uh yeah, I Idon't know man, I I'm just, I'm
excited, plus like.
And then there's, of course,sad fee brother movies, movies
coming out right both separately, right both separately.

(01:45:07):
The smashing machine, which Ibelieve is a boxing movie
starring, or an mma fighter, auf UFC movie.
And then Marty Supreme starringTimmy so yeah, you know, I
really think Mickey 17 mightactually release at some point
it's like on track to releaseright March 17th or something

(01:45:30):
that movie looks goofy as hell,but well, I had no, as something
else I was talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
I had no idea how goofy this movie was gonna be
for it?
I do not think oh, maybe, maybe,yeah, yeah, with jesus I don't
know I don't know about mickey17 yeah, yeah, I don't know
either which is so weird,because normally I I mean like
for the longest time I am likethe pied piper of do not watch

(01:45:57):
trailers, like follow me to thelobby or we'll do whatever.
For I didn't actively watch it,but it just came on while I was
watching, uh, the eagles gamethe other day and I was just
like, oh, this is not the tonethat I thought this movie was
gonna have.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
So, yeah, mickey 17 a little bit more of a comedy and
it's.
It's worrisome that it's beenmoved around so many times.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
Right, that's what Eric and I were talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
And like and Robert Pattinson making choices.
Yeah, I'll be there.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
Yeah, I, what I need to do is I need to go back,
we'll see.
It could be.
You know, brothers just doesn'tknow how to market this, this
film.
But like I can remember theparasite trailer, but like I
need to go back and watch thetrailer for something like
snowpiercer and like what wasthe tone that was trying to be
conveyed in snowpiercer?
Because I could almost see how,like you could cut a trailer

(01:46:47):
for that movie together to tryto tilda swinton and you could
try to almost make it look like,um, you know, like a Mission
Impossible kind of movie, whichis so not the vibe of that film.
It is way more about class warand all different types of
things and being like apost-apocalyptic movie.
So yeah, I don't know, maybethat movie is just not being
marketed well.

Speaker 3 (01:47:07):
We also get a Wes Anderson movie this year.
Damn the Phenation Scheme,which is a, it will be.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Oh yeah, we're in that.
Yeah yeah, scheme, which is auh, it'll be.
Oh yeah, we're in that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
Yeah yeah, we're all in that movie yeah, everyone in
hollywood is in that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
I'm pretty sure a crime, crime movie, sure in wes
anderson's now, can't wait can'twait we've got quite the year
ahead of us if all those moviescome out like how do you find a
friday for?

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
every single one of those movies.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
There's going to be a lot of competition, Absolutely
Box office.
A lot of competition.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
I'm sitting over here thinking of how I started this
episode, saying I'm going totouch grass and just balance my
time, and I'm like you guys arethrowing all these movies and
just stuff to look forward toand I'm like, oh, fuck, was the
last Gore Verbinski movie a curefor wellness?

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
Because if so, that's wild.
That's been like 10 years sincewe've had a Gore film.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
Yeah, Gore Verbinski.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
I will say and it's too bad, because our I would
have made us rerecord the moviedraft from 2005 care for
wellness was was it damn um 2016, 2016.
Okay, um 2006 movie draft.
Number one overall pick ispirates of the Caribbean dead

(01:48:30):
man's chest If.
I get it um, we just fucking.
I love gore.
Okay, um, um, wow, lots to lookforward to.
Um, as for what's next, here onthe pod, we will be discussing
a film that we're allcollectively anticipating, that
we did not mention on thisepisode.
Um, for you know, on purposehere, uh, steven soderbergh's

(01:48:51):
presence.
Um, you know, we've seensoderbergh do a lot of different
things in his career, butdirecting a straight up horror
film.
I know he did Unsane, which isa fun little thriller shot on an
iPhone, but this I I don't.
I get the feeling that a movielike Presence is a pitch that we
haven't seen him throw quiteyet.
So really excited for that.

(01:49:12):
And then we also will celebratehis work by returning to the
draft room and conducting theSteven Soderbergh film draft.
Speaking of consensus numberone overall picks.
Do we think there's one inSteven's career?

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
Man, I don't know.
Sex Lies and Videotapes isanother film, student film, that
is another one that is taughtconstantly in every type of
class you take in school um andthen you have I mean you have
the ocean.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
Oceans 11 is maybe just like one of the most
crowd-pleasing movies of thelast 40 years.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
Totally, it's good out of sight, fucking rocks out
of sight really good.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
Yeah, I don't know kimmy best movie of the 2020s
kimmy magic, mike, magic, mikethe guy has done it all I can't
wait to talk about it?
he's, he's yeah documentaries.
Lots of good stuff.
Bird on wire is awesome, um,okay, so steven soderbergh next
week.
Until then, follow, excuse theintermission on instagram and

(01:50:13):
the three of us on letterboxd totrack the movies that we are
watching between shows, andwe'll talk to you next time on
eti, where movies still matteroh my god, sorry, well just just
look for that spike and you'llknow you'll know when to go in

(01:50:35):
and cut all part of the plan.

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