The Jack Black Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
how's it?
I'm alex mccauley I'm maxfosberg and I'm erica kraus and
this is excuse the intermissiona discussion show surrounding
jack black.
Jack black is the star of thelatest number one box office
smashed minecraft movie and sotoday, on this episode, we will
be ranking all of his films in ahall of fame episode.
That conversation up next onthe other side of this break.

(00:27):
Hey guys, how are we doingtoday?
Happy Jack Black Week here onETI Happy.
Minecraft Week Big movie.
Lots to talk about with Jackand also what this movie is
doing.
But first, how are you guysdoing what's new in your life?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Good.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Big post-grad over here.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, just packing stuff up getting ready for the
move here in about three weeks,which is kind of crazy, but yeah
, just trying to survive thisspring weather, huh.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Bit of a monsoon out there right now it's on, it's
off.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
you know, we're back, we're gone, you know it's funny
how I like I like the rain whenit's convenient for me.
But, like on Sunday, it rainedall day and it was so nice cause
I was out late on Saturday, soI was like having a nice lazy
day, and then today rolls aroundand I'm like fuck this rain,
I'm done, I'm trying to do shityou know, just but yeah, dumping

(01:31):
today crazy the weather.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
The weather has, uh, um too much control over my
weekly schedule, right now nowthat I have decided that it's
you know, assistant coaching alittle league team is something
that my schedule could handleyeah.
So so I'm, I'm, I feel you,erica, and I'll be honest that

(01:56):
at times when a six, 30 to eighto'clock practice on a Wednesday
just doesn't sound great, I'mlike let's check the Doppler and
see what the weather has instore for us tonight.
Oh, it's raining, it's going torain.
That's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
So do you guys cancel when it does rain?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
We cancel.
Practices are different.
Those are a little bit at thecoach's discretion.
Games, however, are decided bythe little league organization,
and so those notificationsusually go out at about 2 pm and
, unfortunately, games aredifferent.
Like, I always want to have thegames, but you know you're not
going to play as well whenyou've had practices rained out

(02:37):
week after week.
And I mean, we're doing, we'redoing well, um.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
You know, maybe in lieu of we're doing, we're doing
well, um you know, maybe inlieu of max max's school corner,
we can turn it into the thelittle league, uh, the the
dugout with the dugout.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, coach mccauley, top, top five baseball movies
coming soon, but but no um,season's off to a great start,
and it's.
It is a really fun experience,something that I've been wanting
to do for a couple of years now.
So shout out to the the triplea pilots over in a at gig Harbor
little league where we'rerocking and rolling.
Go pilots go, pilots making adifference, um, but okay, jack

(03:13):
black, someone else who you know, I feel like in the in the more
recent years of their career,really doing it for the kids is
out here and found he's found alane yeah and he has been
extremely successful in it.
So most recently here that'sexemplified through his work in
the minecraft movie.

(03:35):
Um, a video game series and anadaptation that, quite frankly,
I'm surprised took this long toget off the ground.
Um, I can say, however,firsthand experience working in
the schools, that minecraft isalive and well and is it is, as
popular as ever.
So certainly not like thestudio has missed the train here

(03:57):
.
This is still a very popular uhfranchise, or or I should say
ip with with young people, andthat's evident in the film's box
office success.
My school, I know and I'm surewe're not alone in this has like
a movie theater takeoverplanned for later in the month
here of April, where twotheaters are already sold out

(04:19):
for like a family eventscreening.
That being said, I know a tonof students have already gone
out to see the movie openingweekend, because I've sort of
been pulling the hallways and mydifferent small groups that I
host, and so I'm like, oh, didanybody go see the Minecraft
movie?
And if, uh, if one of my smallgroups has, say, eight students
in it, like three of them werealready just like, oh, yeah,

(04:39):
I've, I've seen it, and so Iwould say safe to assume that
probably 30 to 40 percent of anyyou know young adult, child,
family, demographic populationthat you want to pull from like
30 to 40 percent of them haveprobably gone out to see this
movie, if not more yeah it's,it's a huge movie, uh and, and

(05:00):
you know, I think it's a it'skind of the Super Mario Brothers
of this year, right.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I think that's a good thing too, that we're getting
kids into the theaters.
You know Minecraft?
I don't know, I've never playedthe game.
More importantly, jack Black,such an interesting guy who,
like when you look at hisfilmography, look at his

(05:27):
filmography has like grown fromfrom.
He.
He was kind of like the, youknow, he was kind of like a role
player for a long time and thenhe, and then he becomes a
starter, right, like he.
He's like a glue guy in a lotof early movies or like a guy on
a computer, and then all of asudden, like in the early two
thousands, he starts gettingleading roles and has never
really stopped.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
This will be really interesting to talk about later
when we get to his films and hisHall of Fame inductee ceremony,
because I'm going to comparehim to someone else who I don't
think this will be as popular ofa take as it is in my own
estimation.
Take as it is in my ownestimation.

(06:08):
But some could argue that he'salmost better in those
role-playing situations and inthose role-playing um, when he's
cast as a role player.
But, erica, I mean, you have ayoung nephew.
How do you feel about minecraft?
Where's minecraft in your life?
And how do you feel jack blackis suited to usher in this, this
franchise, that is, you know,unlike maybe Super Mario
Brothers, where Jack Black wasalso involved, he's not just

(06:29):
doing voice work, he is in thishybrid movie.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, I know Hello.
I know nothing about Minecraft.
My brother plays it and I knowmy nephew tanner plays it too
with him or like, just kind oflike sits and watches his dad
play um, and yeah, tanner's four.
So he's like he just went tohis first movie at the movie

(06:58):
theaters um, like a couplemonths ago.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
So hearing that for me, I'm like was he trying to
get in the brutalist before theOscars or something?
What did you go see?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
He went and saw dog man.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Oh nice.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, and he, he did really well, I guess, at the
theater and um.
So having heard that, of courseI'm like game on, let's go.
So, gotten the green light frommom and dad for me to take him
to movies now.
But he's more interested inlilo and stitch coming out soon,
nice.
But he has talked aboutminecraft and this past weekend

(07:34):
when I was with him I was like,hey, do you want to go see
minecraft this weekend?
And he's like no, no, I don't,I don't want to see it, I don't
want to see it.
So he I don't think he reallyeven knows what I'm talking
about kids got taste, yeah, butum, it's funny because I've seen
so many videos of, like thecrowds at the minecraft
screenings and people weregetting hyped over this movie,

(07:57):
like yeah, like freaking out.
And then like when steve I Iknow steve is played by Black,
but I don't know who that likewhat that even means, like I
don't know who Steve is in thisworld.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Steve is the guy OK.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
He's the guy.
It makes sense, I mean, I getthat.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
There's also an Alex featured prominently in the
Minecraft storyline.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
OK.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Just a big win for Alex's OK.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Cool, unique name.
I've never heard that namebefore until you.
Yeah, um, but yeah anyway.
I've just seen some clips frompeople, like when steve shows up
and people are like fuck yeah,like just screaming in the
theaters and I think it didpretty well this weekend, right
best, best box office of theyear so far.
That's crazy good I mean thathonestly kind of makes me happy.

(08:44):
I, I like low-key, want to seeit like I don't know why, but
I'm just in that mood right now,like just we.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I mean something like that it's a kid's movie and we
need these big kids movies toget stuff like paul thomas
anderson's film right in august,right same studio.
We need this to to bring in alot of money so it can fund that
Just to keep theaters open ingeneral.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I mean we heard this firsthand, max, when it was the
Barbenheimer summer and we bringthis up all the time when these
big family movies come out.
And I think it's an importanttime for smaller independent art
house movie theaters to puttheir ego aside a little bit and
if you only have two screens orthree screens or maybe even one

(09:30):
screen set aside a matineeshowing on a saturday or block
out a wednesday, um you know,evening screening to do
something like show theminecraft movie, to show the
super mario brothers, like whena film like this is released it
I I understand the integrity ofof running a an independent art

(09:52):
house movie theater, but youalso need to stay in business so
that again you can showexciting independent films,
international films, when theycome out and not worry about
selling out the theater becauseyou just showed barbie for a
month or you just showed, youknow, oppenheimer kind of toes
the line in the middle, but likeit's, it's important to to do

(10:15):
both, I think, in and to pounceon an opportunity when it
presents itself, like theminecraft movie has here this
month and really this year, likeyou said.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, I totally agree .
And uh, and yeah, jack, jackBlack seems to be evergreen with
kids.
Kids love Jack Black.
I mean, I love Jack Black.
How could you not?
Uh, when I was a kid, I, andit's just crazy that he's been
able to keep it, keep it going.
I mean keep it, keep it going.

(10:46):
I mean, like looking at the, Imean goosebumps, kung fu, panda,
shark tale, jumanji, like he isthe king of brothers, super
mario brothers.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
He's the king of kids movies he's like the dad actor
too, because he is the father oftwo young boys and he really is
just like the ultimate dad,like for not only, I'm sure, his
own kids.
I can't speak on his ownpersonal life, but he is like a
dad, like the fun dad inhollywood, you know.

(11:10):
He shows up to these events andhe's just so unapologetically
himself he's so fun.
He's cool.
I'm like I a big thing that'shappening right, like over the
past weekend or whenever thishappened.
Um, there's a show on netflixcalled love on the spectrum.
It's about it's like a datingshow for um, you know, people on

(11:32):
the spectrum and the mostwholesome show ever.
Well, there's a one of the guyson there, his name's tanner.
Um, he is a huge jack black fan, was stoked about Minecraft and
they had him and his mom on theKelly Clarkson talk show that
she has and Jack Black likesurprised him and showed up and

(11:56):
it was just the most wholesomemoment.
I highly recommend justwatching it because it just
speaks volumes to who this guyreally is and he's a cool guy.
I mean, I'd love supporting himin anything I see him in and he
just seems like a Hollywoodfavorite.

(12:18):
I don't think that a lot ofpeople dislike this man.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, I think that's a great point and a good segue
sort of into this conversationthat we're going to have about
his career in general, becausehe is he is someone that's never
had bad press, he is someonethat I love how you said
unapologetically himself, and Ithink like has just sort of a
heart of gold and is evident inmoments like the one you just

(12:44):
outlined, because that seemslike something that he would
just want to do.
It's not like some publicistprobably had to convince him to
do something like that.
He's.
He's a musician in his ownright, with tenacious D, just
like someone who found hisinterest and just and and made
it cool to be kind of punk, kindof goofy.

(13:06):
He's never been like aclassically handsome leading man
in movies, but that's neverstopped him from, I think, from
playing someone that you couldsee as like a romantic lead in
different films, which isevident in a few of, I think, of
his Hall of fame movies that wewill soon get to, and, and so I

(13:31):
think that he is just such aunique actor, um, sort of in
this space right now, where he'snot tied to anyone.
He's never been tied to onegenre of film, even though you
think of him, as you know, sucha comedic actor.
But he has somebody that hasbeen nominated for his act, uh,
or for his acting before in indifferent dramatic roles, and
who has really ushered in thislike post, I don't know like

(13:52):
sort of what kind of like disneyip, but not really disney ip,
because it's like there'sjumanji, but that like is not
disney and there's there's umthe, the other one that I'm
thinking of here well, yeahright, Goosebumps is the other
one Right, thank you when it'slike he, he hasn't tied himself

(14:15):
really to a franchise other thanmaybe Kung Fu Panda, but has
been somebody that's like thiswas important to me as a kid or
I want it to be important to my,my children now, and so this is
the direction that I'm justgoing to kind of take my career
and maybe I'll do a one for meevery now and then, like his um,
bad satan or santa bad santamovie where he plays satan where

(14:37):
he played dear santa, where heplays satan though yeah because
that's it, he.
You know that he made last year,so again like kind of a family
friendly one, but one where hecan maybe, you know, loosen the
belts a little bit and so Idon't know a really a really
interesting guy that I feel likeis is like a one of one right
now interesting too, because hehe also has like relationships

(14:58):
with different directors too,right, like richard linklater
he's worked with like a coupletimes.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Uh, which is someone you wouldn't think like he.
Where does he fit in a RichardLinklater like universe?
But when you watch the movies,they they work Agreed, okay.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
So in front of us we have we have his complete
filmography.
I have gone through thisspreadsheet and I've eliminated.
There are a few cameo roles inhere just because I think
they're worth noting, but allshort films, um, and no
television roles are are on here.
However, I do have tenacity andthe pick of destiny listed,

(15:37):
because I think that that willbe a conversation to have when
we get to it for hiscontributions to music and Max's
karaoke career.
We get to it for hiscontributions to music and max's
karaoke career, um, and, and.
So we start um in 1992, and,and the first couple of films
here.
You know, I think it's worthmentioning I don't have anything
, even yellow, until we get alittle bit later on in his

(15:59):
career, but shout out to um hisroles in the film bob roberts,
airborne demol, demolition man,the Never Ending Story 3,.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Escape from Fantasia.
I didn't even know there was.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
And I know there was a two, yeah right, I got to look
those up.
Yeah, bye, bye, love.
He's the pilot in Waterworld.
Did not know that.
I remember clocking that when wedid that rewatch for the
costner episode yeah, um deadman walking, which is a great
film with um susan sarandon andsean penn, that I also did not

(16:32):
know that he was in biodome.
And then here's when I thinkthe public conscious finally
started to recognize um jackblack as far as showing up as a
supporting role, maybe the fifth, sixth, seventh casted actor in
a movie.
So in 1996 he's in biodome thecable guy, the fan, mars attacks

(16:53):
and cross worlds, cross worldsbeing the only one of those that
I think hasn't sort of become acult classic or was a big hit
in its own right.
And then in 1997 he's in thejackal.
And that is when, like thisjack black, as sort of like a
man in a van on a computer,totally really starts to like

(17:14):
gain some traction.
And I think that you know,probably he himself, his agent,
everyone else was trying tofigure out what kind of actor is
this guy going to be, becausethere's another one here and I
think it'd kind of be great ifwe sort of, as we flip through
these pages, you know, kind ofalternate talking about the
different movies.
But so that's, that's just kindof I'll do that.

(17:38):
The intro there to his career,92 to 97.
But the Jackal is sort of aninteresting one.
I think there's a much betterexample of this, though, on the
next page.
And is sort of an interestingone.
I think there's a much betterexample of this, though, on the
next page.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Um, and I don't know, max or Erica, if you guys want
to go, in 1998.
Yeah, yeah, in 1998.
And again, like, if Jackcontinues to seek out these sort
of movies, like does he becomethe Simon Pegg role in the
mission impossible?
That's a great call Right.
Like I mean Great call RightBecause that's where Simon Pegg
started in those movies was theguy on the computer back at base

(18:06):
and it would have been primefor Jack to be in that role.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Or is he quartermaster in new James Bond
movies?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Could he be a Ben Winshaw kind of guy in the Craig
James Bond movies perhaps?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:21):
So it's always really interesting, especially in
these nineties movies, to seehim do something like Mars
attacks or the Jackal, or enemyof the state.
I don't think any of themdeserve to be in the hall of
fame per se.
But again, just like you know,I was just thinking of, like
Chris Collinsworth, just beinglike ah, mike, this guy put in

(18:44):
so much time, you know, first inthe building, last out.
Now he's getting a shot outhere in the starting lineup.
He is like the ultimate, likestarted from the bottom, worked
your way up.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, it's really interesting and in a genre that
we never really see him returnto after he falls out of that.
So it's like he he did escapethat type casting, which is
interesting also.
In 1998 I went back and I justwatched.
I just typed in jack black Istill know what you did last

(19:19):
summer on youtube and watchedlike the eight minute
compilation of his scenes as awhite rastafarian dreadlock
wearing brother weed dealer thatis at the uh resort, that of
course, jennifer love hewitt andum mckay, pfeiffer and brandy

(19:40):
is in there, and then freddieprince jr shows up.
They all are at this resort andhe's the one trying to like
hook him up with some weed and Ihighly encourage people to to
just like have a laugh onyoutube, spend five or eight
minutes watching his like who'sbetter?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
who's better at him or gary oldman?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I would have.
I would have liked to have seenoldman.
Oldman is doing something areyou referring to like true?
romance gary oldman he's doingsomething a little bit more
earnest, a little scarier, where, yeah, whereas like jack, this
is definitely a it's a prisonerof the moment kind of thing.
Like this is 1998, weed isstill really edgy.

(20:20):
Um, to have like someone tryingto like deal some dope in a
movie, you are definitelyplaying to an archetype and a
stereotype and and they leaninto that and he leans into that
he's wearing these glasses, ofthese sunglasses that are
hilarious.
A man of many voices very muchso does so many different
accents throughout these filmsand and his facial expressions,

(20:42):
the way that he checks outjennifer love he would when he
first sees her and he just kindof pops the sunglasses off and
pops them back down, like it'sjust really really good stuff um
, like, and then his death sceneis incredible as well, like he
has a great death scene and Istill know what she did last
summer.
so I'm almost tempted to putthat yellow, because I can.
That is certainly the firsttime I ever saw and could

(21:05):
remember like, oh, that actor'slike kind of funny, like who is
this guy?
And then when I see him insomething you know a little bit
later here in the two thousands,I'm like that was a guy who,
who was like smoking weed anddied very early on and I still
know what she did last summer.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
So he's actually uncredited in the role, though I
wonder if titus telesco, Iwonder if he'll show up he'll
show up in the remake coming out, that'd be amazing if he did
actually um.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
All of these movies um are ultimately, I think,
going to be read, but shout outto the early work, the rookie
season um for for jack black anda bunch of different weird
movies, 1990.
You can do 1999 here as well.
It's kind of a lost year forhim, I think.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, so the love letter Cradle Will Rock Jesus'
Son.
And then the first time Iremember interacting with Jack
Black, or understanding kind ofwho he was or noticing him in a
role, was High Fidelity.
And he plays, you know, johnCusack's best friend, who like

(22:09):
hangs out in this record store,and you know, that's when we
kind of get kind of a firstglimpse Something really clicks
here Of like you know, angry,like rocker legend Jack Black
doing the ba-do, ba-do, ba-do,ba-do and yeah, he's like one of
the bright spots of that film.

(22:31):
Um, and obviously, because afterthat film then his roles only
grow.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Uh, following that, I just watched this for the first
time really yeah, I've neverseen high fidelity.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh, it's so good.
I didn't realize that, becausethey made a show the show is
really good too, with zoekravitz yeah um, yeah, but I.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
But when you're doing your little guitar, viewers
could have seen your little likeair guitar.
But there's like that scenelike very early on, when he
shows up and he's like doing hislittle, like I'm not even gonna
do it but I think you know whatI'm talking about.
But I've I see that like littlememe of him dancing like
constantly and it was nice tofinally understand where it came

(23:12):
from.
But yeah, it was funny, it wasI.
He got a good chuckle out of methroughout the movie.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
But yeah, and, and following that then I think is a
sleeper hit with SavingSilverman.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Let's assign a color to High Fidelity, because to me,
I want to put High Fidelitygreen actually.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
See, I think both of these are definitely orange.
Is orange or new medium?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Or yellow, is it yellow?
I think they're both yellow andif there's room at the end,
then yes, I think one of thesetwo because they're both yellow.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Okay, and if there's room at the end, then yes, I
think one of these two becausethey're both supporting roles,
right.
Ultimately, the movie's notbuilt around him, but they are
the two films that, I think,kind of announces Jack Black and
who Jack Black is today.
This is where it starts so.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
So my case for high fidelity being green is that I
think that because this is themovie where it clicks, where it
really makes sense to have himin your comedy is not
necessarily the focal point, but, as comic relief is, is really
significant, and in highfidelity it's a little bit more

(24:26):
by the book.
And then in saving silvermanit's a completely different
pitch.
It is like such slapstick post,the way I put it because this
was the one I revisited, becauseI was like this was one of,
this was one of like I lovedmovies for me growing up and I'm
like I really hope it holds upand I'm a victim to my own

(24:47):
nostalgic feelings for the filmum, but I think that it is a
perfect turn of the decade,early 2000s.
The way I put it in myletterbox was like it is.
We are completely post nationallampoon at this point, but
still you know that so many ofthese guys steve zahn jack black
.
They grew up with the chevychases of the world watching

(25:11):
that generation of comedicactors, even like there's a lot
of rodney dangerfield, I think,in jack black as well, and
that's evident in in somethinglike saving silverman.
But we are still very much.
We are like six, seven yearsprior to really the big apatow
boom and so this is still likepg-13 humor that you can, that

(25:33):
you could have watched as an 11or 12 year old and and thought
was the funniest thing in theworld when it was released and
that you could also still watch,like with your parents in the
next room, and not feel badabout like it.
You know, and it's funny to makethis comparison because there's
jason biggs is kind of thecommon denominator, but watching

(25:53):
something like saving silvermanwasn't like watching american
pie, right, right and listen,like jd mcnugent and saving
silverman and all of his and tome again, I'm like are they
coming yeah and when he's liketalking to our or, uh, arlie

(26:13):
ermy, and he's like coach jdmcnugget remember me eating the
nacho picking up like the wholeplace, like if you get one chip
or you know that's, that's onenacho um, trying to fix amanda
peach chair, and he's like, yep,is the lug nut, the lug nut.

(26:33):
And then also like just shoutout to the script and him for
being so down for it too.
But by the end of the film whenhe's just like like nah, dude,
I'm gay, like I'm pretty sure,um, really funny stuff, like
somewhat problematic, but sofucking funny.
And here's, I guess, where Iwill like roll out my hot take

(26:57):
of I think that jack black, muchlike will ferrell, is the best
at their.
Their best comedic prowess isin a supporting role.
And so, like when I think aboutif I was going to do a Will
Ferrell hall of fame, like ofcourse I'm going to put in

(27:17):
something like step brothers,because I don't really want to
go against the grain.
However, I think that, likeWill Ferrell, as mugatu and
zoolander or as frank the tankin old school are, like those
are bright green to me becausethat is where I laugh the
hardest, and so that would be mycase for something like saving
silverman to at least start outas green I think.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I think, out of the two, saving Silverman deserves
more, because just by the screentime, sure, right, yeah, I
think there's just more.
There's more Jack Black.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I mean Saving Silverman, even though it is
Jason Biggs, like in the quoteunquote leading role, I always
view that as like a Steve ZahnJack Black movie.
You don't need to do thesound's, just like the best
stuff, dude, yeah, um and andand also like.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Also kind of introduces us, even though he's
working in a record store inhigh fidelity they are a neil
diamond cover band, yes, andintroduces kind of like his
musical background as well, uh,for one of the first times
agreed, man listen I'm okayputting saving silverman is
green okay, I think.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I think we then put high fidelity as yellow, and
saving silverman is green hereto start out okay, okay, and
then next is shallow hell.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
So this is his first like leading role where the
movie is built around jack black.
He's co-starring with gwynethboucher, who has won an oscar
very recently coming off winningan oscar yep, we've got jason
alexander in here, who has justended seinfeld and is looking,

(29:03):
feels like shepherding in black.
Totally Cause they are.
They do play archetypes thattalk to each other, right?
Um, I personally just don'treally like shallow how.
I don't.
The Farley brothers are alwayslike.
It's always hit and miss withme.
With with them, you know,something like dumb and dumber
is a bonafide classic.

(29:24):
Something about Maryary,something about mary's amazing,
but shallow how, and then likekind of like, once they get out
of the 90s it gets a little likeroutiney.
Um, I don't know how you guysfeel about it.
I I do remember I didn'trevisit this one, but I do
remember like jason alexanderhaving a tail was like one of
the craziest and funniest thingsever as a 13 year old.

(29:48):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
But the little scene of the prosthetic when they show
it is really disturbing.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah, I really, you know it's funny because I like
this.
I mean, I remember liking thismovie when I was younger and
like it just hasn't aged.
Well, you know, as you know,and I know that people talk
about that nowadays, where likethis movie is not.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I think it's well intended, which most things that
don't age well probably startedout as it's this whole.
You know, beauty is in the eyeof the beholder concept that
just I think we've learned.
That like that doesn't need tobe the crux of your movie
message.
Like that anymore.
It's not a bad movie but it'snot a bad movie at all.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
It's definitely like.
I mean, I think the youngergenerations would watch this and
cancel it immediately, but Ithink us, being millennials, are
like you know, we were there itokay, like we're fine, but I'm
wondering like does this moviematter to anybody under the age
of 20?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
probably not probably not, no, no, probably not.
Whereas like not to say thatsomething like saving silverman
does.
But I think you could show this.
You could show saving silvermanto a group of high school
seniors right now and they'dlike how did I not know about
this?
Like, this is a great one.
Like I totally pack anotherbowl and let's watch it again,

(31:14):
or whatever, where he's likeshallow, how this movie isn't
really that funny, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I mean it's like it had some like little moments.
But looking back on it, like Ican remember I've seen this
movie a thousand times and itreally is more of like him
trying to be like do like arom-com, you know, and sure,
there's like some comedy bits init, but it's really not that
funny compared to some of hisother stuff.

(31:39):
Well, that's because all thefunny is like based around the
fact that this woman that he isdating is very big, very large
yeah, I mean, I don't know it, Iit's definitely, I think it's
yellow, I think it's yellow isyellow.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Um yeah, erica, you want to keep going with the next
couple here.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, so the next few .
I don't really know a whole lotabout other than one of them.
So in 2002, we have OrangeCounty and we have Run, ronnie
Run.
I've never seen either one ofthese, but then he's in Ice Age.

(32:24):
He does the voice of Zeke.
I don't know why I'm having ahard time of remembering who
Zeke is in Ice Age, but I loveIce Age.
Who's Zeke?

Speaker 2 (32:33):
I can't remember because it's Dennis.
Leary, it's Ray Romano.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
He's definitely not one of the main, and it's not
Sid the Sloth.
No.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Zeke must have been like.
Is Zeke like one of the rodentsor something, or is he like the
squirrel or somebody?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, he's just doing the noises I don't really know.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I think that there's so much.
There's so many animatedcontributions still to come.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Sure he, there's so many animated contributions
still to come to where, eventhough ice age is a huge ip
extremely successful I thinkthey're not as tied to to jack
black no, and the fact that wecan't even remember his, I don't
think he I mean he doesn't comeback for any of the sequels
either in ice age or orangecounty has to jump to the top of
your watch list does it I.

(33:18):
I can like see the the dvd casein my head, but I've never seen
it orange county is like astoner text yes, yeah, yeah, I
do especially if you were.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
You know when did that come out?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
2002, so I'm 12 yeah, and definitely watching this
upon its release, but thenrevisiting it when I'm like 16
and thinking, oh, this is theage I'm supposed to be when I
watch a movie like this.
Um, a hilarious movie where,once again, I think that in the

(33:57):
short doses that we get Jackblack in this, he is hilarious.
Like the batting average, theshooting percentage, like my guy
goes eight for 10 from thefield and it's three, threes and
he's just like grabbing acouple of rebounds.
He's doing the absolute mostwith his screen time.
I've always seen it as aprequel to school of rock, yeah

(34:19):
yeah um like when he breaks into.
I don't want to spoil too muchfor you, but there's a scene
where he breaks into um, like acollege administration's
building and it ends up burningdown.
And it's some of his best stuff, like some of his best early
comedic stuff is in OrangeCounty.

(34:40):
But then again I'm just like isit enough?

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I know, yeah, I'm looking it up right now and I do
know of this movie and, ok,yeah, it'll go on my watch list
for sure.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, yeah.
It was also a time when wethought maybe Colin Hanks was
going to be the next Tom Hanks.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yes, also a time when we thought maybe colin hanks
was going to be the next tomhanks, yes, um, he's great in
this movie.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
He is.
He really is well worthacknowledging.
I don't think that.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I mean, I don't know I'm gonna put it yellow yellow
okay, never saw ron run, ronnierun I wonder if that's a.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Is it a parody of run lola run?
Sounds like it yeah um, alsocould be a musical just based by
his character name of lead,chimney sweep.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I'm gonna make it red so after those three um in 2003
is when we start really heatingup.
But he does play a mentalpatient in melvin goes to dinner
.
Um, never heard of this moviebut I am almost curious, just
because I'd love to see jackblack play a mental patient.

(35:39):
Um, but the real star is schoolof rock.
I mean honestly him in thismovie.
This like let's talk aboutschool of rock yeah, I mean this
is like the first.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
This is the greenest of greens.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
This is like the movie.
I've looked up so many um somany lists just to kind of see
like, let's you know, let's rankhis movies, let's see what
people think.
And school of rock is numberone on every single list it's.
It's got a really high, it'sgot like 93 on rotten tomatoes.
I mean pretty much it's a veryiconic early 2000s movie and

(36:18):
it's hilarious, but it also isextremely heartfelt.
I mean yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I was tearing up.
I was tearing up watching itthe other day.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
I, yeah, I just this is like my brother and I's.
This is our movie.
This is the movie we quote themost constantly, and I'll never
grow tired of it.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
It is literally his best work, in my opinion they
took dead poets society andinfused it with rock and roll.
Yeah, I mean that that that iskind of what we're doing here
and it's it's totally brilliant.
And the fact that it's arichard linklater which also
might be his most likemainstream, biggest like
wholesome film that he's everdone and that you know it's his

(37:02):
first time working with Jack,which you know we'll he will
return a couple of times, um,but also, yeah, jack Black is
just like.
When I think of Jack Black,like this is the Jack Black I I
picture right black.
Like this is the jack black I Ipicture, right like he is.
He's got the the hair, uh, at aperfect yeah, he's goofy, he's a

(37:24):
loser, but he's also likepassionate and he's again.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
He's doing a lot of the and and yeah, man, he's like
, yeah, he's like a bobble head.
He's just like yeah, you overhere, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
But he's teaching lessons too.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Exactly.
It's amazing.
I think it's the best versionof a movie, much like Dead Poets
Society, but there's nothingexploitive about this film, the
way that poetic justice might be.
Or, around the same time,antonio Banderas did a movie,
the last, the last dance, maybe,is what it was called.

(38:02):
I forget really, but it's thiswhole, you know trope of a
teacher coming in.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Coach Carter.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, coach Carter, a coach or a teacher, some sort
of you know educator, cominginto either like a private
school and a school in the innercity and being, you know, it's
that white savior complex.
Not that that's evident in allthe movies that we just listed,

(38:28):
but this is the best version ofa movie like that, along with
maybe something like Dead PoetsSociety, and so, yeah, I mean,
what more can you say aboutSchool of Rock?
Got to shout out Mike White.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
I was just about to say we got to shout out Mike
White.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Ned Schneidle helped write it too.
Right, he's a co-writer, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
So just an extremely important film in so many
different people's career.
Shout out Miranda Cosgrove Likeeverybody's eaten in this movie
Joan Cusack, yeah, all the kids.
Yeah, miranda Cosgrove.
Yeah, and I know there's acouple others, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
One of my favorite facts about this movie is that
they did they often the kids dothese reunions like, and
recently did one, and they meton set and then reconnected at
one of their reunions like yearsand years later.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
They just got married last year also just like a
banner of a fucking song oh mygod, this the soundtrack had
like I listened to.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah yeah, baby, we were making straight A's yeah,
so great.
Um, and then 2004, we have themovie envy never saw this, ben
stiller, right yeah um, and thenhe does make a cameo in
anchorman, which I do veryvividly remember.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
He is on the motorcycle.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
No, no, he kicks the dog off the bridge, the one who
punts him over the bridge andhe's like, could you just throw
a burrito out your window?
And he's like I believe I did.
And he's like, were you high orsomething?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
yeah and then that's like a hell's angel.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yes, fucking kicks baxter off of the bridge.
Shout out to that scene rightthere because anchorman is great
.
Um, and then also same year wehave, um he does.
The voice of Lenny in SharkTale.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Never seen Shark Tale .
Is that the main character?
Which?

Speaker 1 (40:23):
blows my mind.
No, will Smith is the mainvoice actor in Shark Tale and he
plays opposite Angelina Jolie.
Also featured in this film isMartin Scorsese, I guess as a
mob boss shark figure.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Same with Robert De Niro and same with Bobby De Niro
.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
The voice work in this film is incredible.
And it's actually a prettysolid movie.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
It is, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I forget who they are .
I think it's some hip hop starsthat were real big at the time.
Some hip hop stars that werereal big at the time, um, play
like some jellyfish that areagain Rastafarian Marley, thank
you, and run a car wash.
Um, really funny stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
And they sing car wash they do, and it's iconic.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Sharktail is solid and I think begins the
partnership with Jack black anddream works which is almost the
most important part of this.
Um, I don't think shark tale isgoing in just because, again,
it's not really his movie, butan important movie nonetheless I
agree, yeah, um, so then in2005 we have king kong.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
I have not seen.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
I mean I just just ISO at the top of the key for
Max here.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I'm here with you if you need me in the corner to get
one up, but I fucking love thismovie and you know a crazy cast
, peter Jackson, coming off theLord of the Rings trilogy.
This is the movie he alwayswanted to do.
This is why he startedfilmmaking King Kong.
I think at the time when itcame out was very like middling

(42:01):
and like, uh, you know, it'sjust kind of a remake.
But going back and like I youknow I think I've talked about
this before but like during the20 episodes during the pandemic,
like I went through Ire-watched the movie and then I
went and watched like eighthours of behind the scenes
footage and just an incrediblepiece of filmmaking.

(42:22):
Um, when, when you, when youdive in deep to it, andy circus,
of course, playing, uh, kingKong.
Now Jack black comes in andplays Carl Denham, who is like
the movie director, uh, on thisship that is going to Skull
Island, because he's kind of aloser director who's trying to

(42:43):
make a documentary about thetribes people on this island.
Turns out there's a giantmonkey and he kind of becomes
the foil of the film.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, he's a real slimy money-grubbing kind of guy
.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
And you know, even though, like in the 90s, we see
Jack Black in serious actionmovies as a side character, he's
much more of a co-lead here andagain kind of showing us, yes,
he can do School of Rock, he cando Goofy, he can do Wholesome,
but he can also.
He's kind of theiss army knife.

(43:18):
He can.
He can play a bad guy, he canplay in a serious like science
fiction, fantasy, film, um,which is something that you know
probably wasn't, uh, wasn'tknown at the time well, I think
that's.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
The real key here is that this is coming off of a
really successful two or threefour-year comedy run, and so now
this is him playing againsttype and I think the casting
director and peter jackson andeveryone else that went into
putting jack black in this role.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Kudos to them because it works so well yeah, it
really does, and he's he'sreally pretty awesome in this
film again, kind of a co-lead,not built around him.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Also one of the more impressive films that he gets to
be a part of throughout hiscareer.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
And also a shout out I think a couple of years before
this, I believe, he hosts theMTV Awards and he does the Lord
of the Rings parody, where he'slike an elf at the fellowship in
the elf city where they'retalking about what to do with
the ring and he reveals that hehad got it pierced onto his

(44:26):
penis the night before which isjust some just awesome, awesome
stuff to go look up on YouTube.
if you've never seen that, or ifyou're too young to remember
what the VMAs were yeah,remember what the VMAs were.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, what the.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
VMAs were yeah and you know, again kind of like I
wonder if Peter Jackson had seenthat and then was like, oh,
maybe I will put this guy inKing Kong.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
So all this to say what?
What colors can come?
I think it's yellow.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
OK, yeah, that's fair I think, I think there's a
treasure trove of green comingsoon I agree so.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
So next, here is one of these examples of why I think
he works better as a supportingcharacter.
That is really well written.
In a comedy film that is maybemore thought out and and more um
, I don't know, just maybe notas one note, whereas and much,

(45:30):
much like.
Will Ferrell.
I think um not to say thatthere aren't examples in both
Will Ferrell and Jack Black'scareer of of them being great
Like I can think of, you know,ricky Bobby, talladega Nights.
That's an amazing leading rolefor Will Ferrell and I think
he's great in that there's othergreat leading roles for Jack
Black coming up this next filmin 2006, which I think for so

(45:52):
many people is also going to bebright green.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
And I think that the right thing for us to do is
probably to put a green here, atleast to start.
Nacho libre has just never beenmy movie same.
It's not my cup of tea either,but it is a cult classic for a
lot.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Of people watched it for the first time me too uh
this week and I will say thatthe first, like 45 minutes to an
hour, are fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
And then it kind of falls apart.
Yeah, but like and there areplenty of memes from this movie
that go around, you know thewhole like I'm going to make
soup all day.
It's fantastic.
Again, this is Jared Hess, whodirected Minecraft, also known
for Napoleon Dynamite and it'swriting, gentlemen Broncos,

(46:41):
writing the coattails ofNapoleon Dynamite.
Yeah, so hard.
Oh yeah, jared Hess is a verylike certain kind of filmmaker.
All of his films.
I haven't seen the Minecraftmovie, but I've also read that
like the first cut of it wasvery much more like natural
Libre, napoleon, diamond,gentlemen, broncos.
And then, you know, the studiocame in and was like we're not

(47:03):
doing that.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, we need pixelated.
Yeah, we need this to be akid's movie.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Um, I don't know, natural Libre I I found somewhat
enjoyable but, like I said, Ithink it does fall apart.
I gave it, I think, three and ahalf stars, uh, so I don't know

(47:30):
if it's green for me, but man,uh, just some, a movie like that
shouldn't look that good.
Jack black, you know, playinguh lucha libre again kind of
like doesn't age Well, uh, notkind of doesn't age well, uh,
and, but there are some funnybits in it.
Uh, I will say uh from watchingit for the first time.
But uh, yeah, I'm not, I'm not,I don't have a, I don't have a

(47:52):
history with it, so I'm not tiedto it being green.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
I mean I think we put it green and if we're over 10
at the end of this, then weunderstand that some films have
to get cut.
But for jack black's hall offame career, I I think nacho
libre starts out as green.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, okay next is tenacious D.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Same with this movie, I mean.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Not a great movie.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
No, not but.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
But, Iconic.
Is iconic and important to thelegend of Jack Black.
Like recognizes.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Particularly the pick of Destiny 2.
Yeah, you know like causethere's several Tenacious D's
out there and it.
Yeah, it's not a good movie atall, but considering that this
is literally his actual band,him in um what's his name?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
kyle kyle.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Um, I think it's definitely it needs to be it's
part of the lore.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah, it is yeah of jack black absolutely and I
think that's also reallyinteresting about jack black is
that, like, even though he hasbeen a movie star for since the
early two thousands, doesn't,doesn't hit all the time, but he
keeps coming back, he keeps, hekeeps.
You know like again, I haven'tseen the Minecraft movie.
I'm sure I would hate it if Idid see it, but guess what?

(49:12):
He's going to be in another bigmovie in fucking eight months
because the guy just resurrects.
Um.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
So I think again, tenacious, much like natural
libre, starts out green andwe'll see where we're at I agree
, pretty green year then for himin 2006, because the next one,
the holiday yeah, automaticgreen yeah, you think so I do
yeah, okay, I think this is likesome of his best acting Like

(49:40):
straight up.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
It does show him in a different light than we're
normally used to seeing him in,and I mean, obviously I'm a huge
holiday fan.
That's like my Christmas movie.
But yeah, it's like interestingto see him in this role because
it's like he really.
This is where like I started tokind of like do I have like a

(50:03):
little crush on Jack Black LikeI.
He became like this, reallylike this sweet guy you know,
Kind of boy next door, yeah.
And you're like oh, I, becausein Shallow Howl, like he's not
sweet.
You know, like I mean at Ibecause in Shallow Howl, like he
is not sweet.
You know, like I mean, at leastI don't see him as that, like I
mean he has like his moments, Iguess.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
But his arc is to get sweet Right.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Yeah, but the holiday is just like he's just that.
He's just such a good guy inthe holiday.
You know we love him.
He is the boy next door.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Kaylee told me this week.
She said if it wasn't for theholiday, I don't know if I, you
know we'd be together.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
I said why is that?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Because, if I'm your Jack Black, then that's good.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Oh, that's funny, I love that I can kind of see it.
That's kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
I mean kind of see it , that's kind of funny.
I mean yeah, I okay, I mean Ilove, I love to see it green.
Sure uh, margo at the wedding.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I've never seen it, nope neither have I, and it's
always one I've wanted to checkout because it has a really good
reputation.
Um, how important is he to thefilm's overall success, which
there's a lot of unsure.
So that's on us.
Yep red for now sorry, jack redfor now.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
I like that uh, walk hard.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
The dewey cox story again.
Just like showing up and doinga crazy awesome cameo.
Uh, he's one of the beatles,right yeah, paul mccartney yeah,
uh, really funny stuff, butmuch like anchorman, just not
enough meat on the bone um.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Next is be kind, rewind um from 2008.
Fun movie.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
I've never seen this such a strange movie I remember
I had seen it before andre-watched it this week.
Michelle gondry film, uh, mostmost death, the first thing I
said when it started.
I was like where the fuck ismost death and rewatched it this
week, michelle Gondry film MostDeath.
The first thing I said when itstarted I was like where the
fuck is Most Death?

Speaker 1 (52:03):
What happened to Most Death?
He's chilling man.
He's gone the same route as youknow, the Erykah Badu's of the
world and they just they limittheir public appearances, and I
think intentionally.
You know I don't want to tieanything to like the political
climate, but much of like how wesaw dave chappelle kind of

(52:26):
disappear.
Yeah, when he felt that thingsin hollywood and um, just like
in the entertainment industry,were really becoming like
morally bankrupt, um decided tojust sort of remove themselves.
You know, most staff wassomebody that was really tied to
the Kanye West of the world andthe Dave Chappelle's of the
world and when, when I think thepublic spotlight around people

(52:50):
that that someone like moststaff was really close with
began to get too much, he sawthat as a sign to I'm going to
sort of well, I love most stuffand I miss him the mighty most.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Baby, yeah, um, yeah, this movie is fun, really fun,
I mean it's.
It's kind of a movie aboutmaking movies uh in the most
like dirt.
Like uh dirt budget way Uh, andhas like Mia Farrow and Danny

(53:21):
Glover um in this film and likejust kind of like I don't know,
just a weird original film.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, um, it's at best yellow, but it's a really,
it's a solid movie.
Um, following that is Kung FuPanda.
Now, unlike something like Iceage or shark tale, this is now a
movie that will forever be inchildren's pop cult, in the, in

(53:49):
the zeitgeist of child's popculture, um, and you know
whether or not he continues toshepherd this film into the
2020s.
I'm not sure have we had a KungFu Panda yet in the 2020s?

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Kung Fu Panda 4 came out, came out last year.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, wow, so this train is still moving full steam
ahead.
This is green.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yes, I think you could package all four of the
movies together I think we justput in kung fu panda, but yeah,
I think the first one is is themost important.
I haven't seen all four, but no, I think I've seen two, maybe,
but uh yeah, kung fu panda is anawesome film this has like one
of those, um, like a fan basekind, kind of like Shrek does.

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Yes, you know Totally.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah.
So definitely green Next isTropic Thunder, which I could do
a whole episode on this movie.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
You were lying about a lot of green coming up.
No, you don't like TropicThunder.
No, I'm saying you weren'tlying, oh, weren't.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
About.
A lot of green said were too.
I was like, hey, we're gonnafight right now again just like,
so green like he is, and you'reright, your your theory about
him being better as a supportingactor in these films and in the
big comedies in the bigcomedies.
Yeah for him.
I mean, he's second build,right, uh, behind ben stiller,
um and in front of robert downeyjr, which is crazy, but the

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fact that this movie even exists.
Like re-watching this, I wasjust like, oh my god, this is
like one of the funniest moviesever drop it.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
It is tropic thunder and you cannot say this about
very about too many other films,like maybe one or two of the
yaptow films, like I think superbad is a little bit like this.
Tropic thunder is like this,but they exist in the same
universe as like the bestepisode of a of south park where

(55:54):
you could just never go backand cancel it because everyone's
catching strays Like there's.
You know there's an incrediblecast, an amazing cast that is so
well executed in, in being aparody and being a satire and
being all these different thingsto where like you would just
sound like an idiot if you triedto go back and and cancel Like

(56:18):
you've never.
You always hear this.
Like you never hear somebody goback and say like we got to
cancel South Park.
It's just like no man.
South Park takes shots ateverybody.
Tropic Thunder, same energy.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Just insane.
I remember in the theaterwatching this and then like, and
the first thing that you seeare these fake, like trailers,
you know.
Know, like big ass booties orbooty sweat, and like the toby
mcguire, kirk lazarus fucking,uh, uh, what is it?

(56:49):
They're like monks or something.
Uh, just insane.
Or scorcher six, you know.
Oh, my god, it's so funny.
And then simple jack, simplejack.
Tom cruise in here, bill haters,in here, steven coogan, danny
mcbride kind of announces dannymcbride to everybody, um, but

(57:10):
jack black, as the also he'sdoing.
He's, you know, poking fun atfucking eddie murphy for the the
clumps parody, the fats orwhatever.
It's just like this drug addict, fucking psychopath.
He's amazing.
He's amazing in this.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
I think this is one of the funniest movies of our
generation.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Like I rewatched this a few months ago and I just sat
there with my jaw dropped thewhole time Just thinking like I
don't know how many other moviesI've seen that are like as,
because this is funny, like on abig scale, you know.
Like, whereas like I have areally niche sense of humor

(57:54):
Sometimes, this is so like muchbigger than that you're, you're
so.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
You're absolutely right because like it's minute
by minute, scene by scene, laughout loud, funny, but then big
picture wise.
You're like you're just this isso smart and really funny and
really well thought out.
Yeah, we're like they had tohave just been in the writer's
room going like crazy, having somuch fun well, I don't know if
we'll ever have anything everlike this again.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
So, yeah, definitely green.
Yeah, speaking of niche humor,the next movie is definitely one
of my niche really lovesinteresting have you guys ever
seen?
Yeah, I saw it in the theaterreally okay so 2009, the movie
year one, came out, and he playsZed alongside Michael Cera, and

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this is definitely like a verylike not everyone's cup of tea,
but it's my cup of tea.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Interesting.
I've never seen that, not mine.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
It is.
That's OK.
I don't know a lot of peoplewho like this, other than me and
my best friend and I did have,like some of my friends in high
school, we quoted this movie.
This was like your junior orsenior year, so yeah and it was
like me and a couple friends ofmine were obsessed with this
movie, would quote it all thetime and it is so fucking weird

(59:10):
and random.
But it is absolutely like.
In my eyes, this movie kills me.
It is so quotable and justweird and it the movie is about
like what like they're in whatlike?

Speaker 2 (59:25):
this caveman.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
They're like cave yeah, kind of like, like, and
they're like basically um jackblack and michael sarah like,
leave their little tribe in thewoods to go out and explore and
then they come across like Idon't even know what you would
call the group that they stumbleupon nomads nomads yeah and um,

(59:50):
it's just there's a lot ofcameos in this movie too.
We have, like we have paul rudd,bill haters in this.
Yeah, I, I love this movie.
Is I don't it would be green inmy eyes just because, like me
personally, but I can recognizethat this is not green let's put
yellow.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
I've never seen it yellow's fine that's okay uh,
gulliver's travels.
The only thing I know aboutthis movie is that emily blunt
decided to do this over iron man2 yeah, it's too bad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Is this supposed to be?
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm I'm not going to comment onthis film.
I've never seen it.
Um, I I know it's adapted froma really popular book, book yeah
, children's book um, it's anold story yeah, I don't again.
I don't really think it hasmuch importance.
I think at the time I wastrying to do something and got a
lot of press around it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
It's got a 4.9 out of 10 on imdb, so that's a no um.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Kung fu panda 2 follows that.
We have already discussed that.
Kung fu panda is in as a as anentire franchise.
Following that, he does bernie.
Now, bernie's a reallyinteresting movie because you
could also make the case thatthis is some of his best serious
, dramatic, while also being thejack black who we know and love

(01:01:13):
by the time we get to 2011,like comedic acting but bernie
really successful film that heis the star of and again link
later working with link later.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Uh, matthew mcconaughey, shirley um mclean,
mclean.
Yeah, such an interesting movieI.
I've seen it multiple times.
I went back and re-watched itthis week.
I, he's amazing, he's reallyamazing.
He gets the scene in it, ofcourse, because he's jack black.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Uh, he is like he gets to do, kind of like the
costume thing he gets.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yeah, he gets to dress up, he puts on a funny
voice, he is like charming andfunny, but then also like
demented and scary.
Um, yeah, this is kind of likerobin williams doing uh, you
know, one hour photo orsomething like that.
Um, and the way this movie isalso made, like link later

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interviewed.
It's like documentary but thena retelling of what happened
with with actors as well, but helike interviewed actual people
from the town carthage in texas,which is really interesting,
and those people are likecharacters upon themselves.
Um, I, I really like thisperformance.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Yeah I think it's green.
Yeah, when I took a first passat all the movies I was like,
well, okay, Bernie's green.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
The Big Year, Him and Steve Martin, Owen Wilson
Birdwatching.
I'm familiar with this.
I feel like I've started thismovie seven times and never
gotten past about 30 minutes.
So I'm going to say red.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Yeah, a couple of uncredited roles.
Um, there was a Muppets film in2011.
I'm unfamiliar if that was abig success or not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Jason Segel Amy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Adams, yeah, okay, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
He shows up for a cup of coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Um then sex tape and the D train, I would say, are
both red.
But then that takes us toGoosebumps.
Now Goosebumps is reallyinteresting because this
completely revitalizes a belovedchildren's series, young adult
book series that we all grew upwith.

(01:03:34):
We all grew up with and thathas now because of the work that
jack black, rl stein andeveryone else did by bringing
you know kind of the four orfive classic stories to the big
screen.
In this film adaptation thesebooks are completely back now,
like we just had this classicbook fair, and there are new

(01:03:54):
iterations of goosebump stories.
A lot of the original serieshave been reissued now and so
you know, like Werewolf of FeverSwamp and Slappy the Dummy,
like kids nowadays still knowabout these iconic books and
stories that we all grew up withbecause of this film.

(01:04:15):
So I think it's less successfulultimately than his work in like
kung fu panda or probably whatthe minecraft legacy is going to
be.
How much is he really going tobe tied to the success of
something like super mariobrothers and that movie was huge
and we'll see what happens withthat franchise.
But like again, this is thathybrid storytelling of like

(01:04:35):
there's a ton of computergraphics in this movie, but so
many kids watched Goosebumps andwere introduced to the real
Jack Black not the voice of JackBlack, but Jack Black as RL
Stein.
So I think this movie is reallyimportant.
I don't know where you guysstand with it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
To be honest, I've never seen it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
I've never seen it either, but you know I can
understand why, like what you'resaying.
But you know I can understandwhy, like what you're saying, I
think that there's other moviesto come though that are more
important to be recognized, likeI think this is definitely
yellow because I don't know howsuccessful Goosebumps was, but I

(01:05:14):
can, like I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, I think that itis nice to like kind of reopen
this can of worms of goosebumpsand kind of give this younger
generation a chance to, like youknow, explore these movies,
because he has another one thatcomes out a few years later, but
I don't know that it's like asimportant as some of the other

(01:05:36):
movies.
But I don't know.
What do you guys think?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I think it kind of comes down to like how do you
compare it up against somethinglike Jumanji?

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Well, so to me it's goosebumps is Jack, black is
Jack steering the ship.
Whereas Jumanji is the rock andit's Kevin Hart right it's more
of an ensemble that he is ahuge part of and maybe the
Jumanji movies ultimately have abetter box office.
But I can guarantee that a lotof kids probably went to go see

(01:06:06):
Jumanji and were like, oh,that's the guy I saw in
goosebumps.
And now he's here with KevinHart.
Right he must be cool.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Like he must be really cool.
Yeah, um, I, I'm.
I'm fine with putting it green,I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
That doesn't mean it has to stay, but I think
goosebumps is green Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Uh is green.
Okay, I can tell you right now,the polka keen is is a big fat
red okay thanks for doing thework horrendous.
Yeah, I thought maybe you knowa stealth netflix hidden gem
hidden gem.
No, it's bad, he's bad in it.
The accent is bad, the premiseis dumb like even though it's
based on a true story.

(01:06:46):
The music sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Is he trying to be the john candy character, the
polka king from?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
no home alone movies.
No, not even that maybe wouldhave been more exciting,
probably.
And then we get to jumanji um,which, again like a huge
franchise.
Now I believe a third one is onthe way.
Uh, jack black is, you knowwhat?
He's part of this ensemble cast, probably third fiddle.

(01:07:13):
Uh, to the rock, kevin hart, um, and however I, I do always, I
mean again lots of memes, right,like lots of lots of talk of
you know he is, he's embodied,his character in the game is
embodied by a teenage girl,right, is that correct in this

(01:07:37):
story?
Yeah, so then, he is extremelygoofy.
This movie is fucking hilarious.
Yeah, I'm unfamiliar.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
I loved this movie.
I've not seen the haven't, Ihaven't seen the second one and
I I don't really have a need to,but I went into.
I remember seeing this movie intheaters when I lived in
california and thinking likethis is gonna blow, like this is
so stupid, like the concept,and it was fucking hilarious.
And jack black made this moviefunny.

(01:08:07):
He is, I mean, kevin hart andthe rock are funny together, but
they're kind of like it's likeexpected like it's like I,
they're not really my type ofhumor, but because, like, I mean
, that is kind of the spoileralert that, like, jack black's
character shows up as, like,when they show up in the game,

(01:08:30):
he is the girl which in thegroup and so, um, or, the hot
girl there's two girls and so,um, you don't really expect that
to happen and I just thatmoment was absolutely fucking
hilarious and and it was, it wasjust like I, I don't know, I I

(01:08:50):
loved this movie.
I it surprisingly like reallyworked for me and I've watched,
re-watched it and um, it's justlike one of those it's, it's,
it's really not like thegreatest comedy ever, but it
worked, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
And sounds like a pg of Tropic Thunder.
Yeah, right, where he is, he'skind of the third, the third guy
and like kind of steals theshow.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Yeah, and there's some funny like just there's
some really good comedic momentsthroughout with everybody.
But I think that he is why thismovie is so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Let's, let's put it green.
Yeah, don't worry, he won't getfar on foot.
A movie that's been on my watchlist for a long time Joaquin
Phoenix, jonah Hill, jack Blacknever seen it, I didn't get to
it this week.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Prioritize the Polka King over it, I chose.
Rome.
Kind of a rough 2018, then,because he follows it up with
the unexpected race.
Playing sheriff, I'm familiarwith that the house with a clock
in its walls, which I thoughtwas a goosebumps two movie.

(01:10:05):
Um, he plays jonathan barvineltand I'm also unfamiliar with
that film and then an uncreditedrole in the sequel to
goosebumps 2 we've already putgoosebumps as green so
uncredited, so like he's noteven that you know.
Maybe it's just like an introlike a crypt keeper kind of like
hey, I'm gonna welcome you tothe next stories or whatever.

(01:10:27):
And then he's out.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Probably busy filming Jumanji.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
The Next.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Level which comes out in 2019, which we've already
inducted that as well.
Then we return to anotherLinklater film in 2022, there
Apollo 10 and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Have you guys seen this?

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Yes, when it came out .
But, as you know, I don't thinkit's really one that he's tied
to necessarily.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
That's Link later.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
That's the animation, the main character of Stanley.
He does the voice work once thestory kind of takes a shift out
of being fascinated with NASAand space exploration and stuff,
but again one that like when Iwatched the movie it wasn't like
, oh awesome.
The voice work of jack black islike taking this to the next

(01:11:13):
level.
You know, link later'sanimation, that that rotoscope
style, um, and everything thathe does when, when he makes an
animated movie.
That's what you're focused on.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
It's funny because when I looked I I watched this
for the first time today and andwhen I was looking at all those
lists ranking movies, this wasat the very top, because it's
highly.
I mean people love the movie,yeah it is a good movie, but
yeah, he just does the voice andnarrates the whole movie pretty

(01:11:43):
much.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
And then one I'd never his other work there in
2022.
The weird al yankovic story.
Um, I'm familiar with thismovie, never seen awesome movie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Very weird al he shows up as like a cameo gotcha
much like dewey cox or somethinggotcha um, and now we've made
it to the last couple of yearshere super mario bros he plays
bowser.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
This stuff I never.
I have not seen this movie Idon't like this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
It's a kid's movie.
It's made for kids.
Uh, it's huge.
He was, I believe, wasn't thesong nominated that he sings
peaches, peaches, yeah for afucking academy award I'm not
sure about that.
I don't know or maybe there wasa push to nominate it, um, but
that was a huge.
I mean he's, I don't know I.

(01:12:34):
Is it because he's the voice ofbowser that this movie was so
huge?
Or is it because of the ip ofmario right?
Like I don't I, I don't know.
I just remember hating thismovie.
I remember hating it.
He's probably the best part ofit.
Um, it's not, chris.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Pratt is Mario.
I mean, like I'm trying to,yeah, Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Pratt is Mario, charlie day is Luigi, uh uh,
keegan.
Michael key is toad.
On your Taylor Joy is princesspeach.
I mean on your taylor joy asprincess peach.
I mean it's a.
It's a huge movie with a hugecast and once again, like he is,
he is at the center of this anddoes huge box office.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Uh, in the same I think it came out in march or
april or something kind of thesame as minecraft here, um, but
I I don't think it's, I don'tthink it's hall of fame worthy
interesting just I mean he playsthe villain right and I'm sure
he will be in the multiplesequels and spinoffs and whatnot
as bowser going forward butwhich, like you know what, like

(01:13:39):
if I'm jack black, I'm going tonintendo and whoever else and
I'm just like, run me my money.
Yeah, like cash, that check,keep it going, yeah but yeah,
it's red for me okay, I meanI'll defer to you on this.
I think that we've done a prettygood job of of highlighting his
contributions to the world ofanimation, family and child's

(01:14:01):
entertainment and animation atthe theater.
It's not kung fu panda, butit's not kung Fu Panda.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
I think that needs to be the level the bar for any
sort of animated film.
Then Kung Fu Panda 4, whichwe've already got, the first one
in Borderlands.
It's like one of the worstmovies of the decade.
Apparently, still haven't seenit.
Eli Roth film Again, teams withKate.
Eli Roth.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Yeah, kate Blanchett is also in this film Kevin Hart,
kevin Hart, they must have agreat relationship, yeah just
all his buddies.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
But he is doing voice work in this.
He's not actually.
He's like a robot or something.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Nominated for the Razzie Award for Worst
Supporting Actor.
Can't be putting that in.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Nope, that's a red 2024 also featured the film free
lsd, which uh great title.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
He plays the crazed scientist might need to youtube.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
That combination probably pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Yeah, I need to uh look up some highlight reel
moments sounds like some billhater, pineapple express cameo
stuff going on there that'sgreat.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
And then, dear santa, you know my beloved paramount
plus released this at the end oflast year, did not fire it up,
you know I was going to and thenwe decided to do.
You know it didn't quite fitbasically into our like
christmas cringe, because I wasright when I was cranking
through all those streamers, umand for stuff, saw it there was

(01:15:27):
featured on the homepage for acouple of weeks, but you know
more, more of that kind of likethe Eddie Murphy one that we
talked about.
We were like this is notChristmas cringe, because it's
like the, the Christmas familyadventure kind of movie.
I feel like it was more of thatthan what we were focusing on.
So no, didn't get to it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Well, it's, it's.
It's a great piece of casting,because if you've seen Jack
black lately, I mean he lookslike real life Santa.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
So uh, and also kind of, and he can look like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Satan with those eyebrows?
Yeah, and he can make them.
He can make them into horns.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Yes, absolutely.
Um, and then that brings 2025and a Minecraft movie, of course
, as, as Steve the leadcharacter, um, I think probably
too early to tell the verdictsout, and also to if super Mario
brothers the movie is not makingit in, I don't know if a
Minecraft movie needs to make itin either.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Gave us the opportunity to celebrate him
with this episode.
Um his other listed feature,though, though for 2025,.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Max.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
I got to pull you in here and tell us how you feel
because you had just mentionedthe original Anaconda on last
week's episode is like a guiltypleasure.
Animal attack movie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Well, guess what?
It's going to have its momentbecause people are going to
return to it now, with JackBlack and Paul Rudd rebooting
this anaconda series that'sfucking sick I think it is
really sick, it's very exciting,uh, and we are.
People are definitely going togo back and revisit that first
film and they're going torealize what we had in the 90s

(01:17:05):
damn john Voight in a ponytail.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Jon Voight.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Just checking out J-Lo constantly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
You put that much more diplomatically than I would
.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Yeah, I cannot wait for this.
I've read that it's going to bemuch more comedic and more like
parody style.
But I mean Paul Rud and jackblack I in the amazon hunting
snakes I'm in.
I'm in yeah, I'll be in thetheater okay, do you have a
digital?

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
uh, have you been running this?

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
yeah, yeah, let me.
Let me count them up real quick, if you want to please and
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Um, yeah, I don't know.
Is there, erica?
Is there any role that youwould like to see Jack Black do
that he hasn't done yet?
Like you know, I'm I'm tryingto picture not that there is
like room for for him and maybesomething like an action, sort
of historical epic, but I'm likethat's something that we

(01:18:05):
haven't really seen him in sortof historical epic, but I'm like
that's something that wehaven't really seen him in.
Like, could you dress him upand put him in, like whether
it's TV or movie, but like aRidley Scott film, something
like a game of Thrones movie?
I'm like somewhere where hecould be like a court gesture
kind of person.
Like, could he have maybe a runin his fifties and sixties and
maybe even into his seventies,where he, like he becomes a

(01:18:26):
Willem Dafoe in some of thesegenre pictures?
Do you see him going that route?

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Unfortunately no, and I hate to even like I love this
man so much and I just wouldlove to see him get that kind of
success or like a more seriousrole, but I just don't role um,
but I just don't.

(01:18:53):
I think it's his career is tooestablished that it would take
you out of like a movie likethat, where, like then, we
wouldn't really be taking himseriously.
You know, what I was thinkingof is seeing him maybe in, like
in horror.
You know, like I'm curious,like what that would feel like
in, and maybe not something likeyou know, like what you and I
are into, like I'm curious likewhat that would feel like in,
and maybe not something like youknow, like what you and I are
into, like the kind of like likereally dark horror and stuff,

(01:19:14):
but maybe something a little bitmore like light-hearted or at
least just kind of um like maybecampy, like I don't know.
I I'd like to see him insomething like that you know
what I could have seen him in?

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
like think of ethan hawke in the original purge.
Yeah, I could see him insomething like that.
You know what I could have seenhim in?
Think of Ethan Hawke in theoriginal Purge.
Yeah, I could see him doingsomething like that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
That's kind of what I'm thinking, but I think that
where he's at right now justreally suits him oh yeah.
He really has made this littlenest for himself in Hollywood
and it just works for who he isin hollywood and it just works

(01:19:53):
for who he is, you know, andhe's grown out of that like kind
of that like, maybe like stonerhumor, like, and because I even
see like him in school of rock,kind of like that.
You know he's still this, likeyou know, deadbeat, like
hungover dude coming to work andshit, but um, and you know he's
, he's grown, he's like reallymade a name for himself in these

(01:20:14):
family movies, which is fine.
I don't want to like ever putactors like in a box and like
just say that you can't everleave that, but it just really
works for who he is.
Because, like I see so manypeople talk about how Jack is
really just playing himself in alot of movies and a lot of
roles these days where he's justhe shows up to these events,

(01:20:37):
just as as that and like, andthen you see that translated in
his roles.
So similarly, you know, and sohe, he, like he fits really well
with what he's doing.
But that's not to say that, likeyou know, I would love to see
him in another role, like theholiday, you know, like he he
was.
He's a very like endearing soul, so to see him in something

(01:21:01):
more emotional would be nice tooand just sweet.
So I don't know.
But I just found out about thisanaconda remake today when I
was looking and I got so fuckinghyped like I loved the original
.
Um, that was a movie I wouldrent at the, the hollywood video

(01:21:22):
often it's gonna be a big uhpaul rudd year.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Uh he's.
He's already come out in deathof a unicorn, he's doing
anaconda and he's also got thismovie called friendship, which
is yes supposed to be justfucking hilarious like one of
the funniest movies with uh timtim, what's his name?
Yeah, I think I, I think we,you should leave now, or
whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
I think you should leave Tim Robinson.
Yeah, tim Robinson, yeah, yeah,yeah, that'll be good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Uh well, team, listen I.
I know we're professionals here, because do we we?
Got 10 on the head, no way 10greens, 10 greens.
The 10 are saving Silvermanschool of rock.
Saving Silverman School of Rock, natural Libre, Tenacious D,
the Holiday, kung Fu Panda,tropic Thunder, bernie,

(01:22:13):
goosebumps, jumanji.
Okay, we've got six yellows andthose are year one Be Kind
Rewind.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
King Kong, orange County, shallow Howl.
High Fidelity Okay Well, I feelgreat about hitting 10 on the
nose, but I am wondering now, isthere room to?
Is there a conversation to behad around moving something like
maybe the pick?

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
of destiny out?
You don't think so I think.
If anything moves out, I thinkit's Nacho Libre.
Really no, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
If anything moves out , it's either Goosebumps or
Jumanji, because they're sosimilar.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
I think respectfully that you cannot leave out
Tenacious D just considering,like the impact, the impact of
of what tenacious d is, and thenargue with that and then say I
do like the similarityconversation to be had between
goosebumps and jumanji yeah, andthen um the thing is what do we
want to move in, if, if we movesomething, I I mean, for me it
would be High Fidelity or KingKong or Orange County.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
Right, and I would agree with that too.
I'm almost thinking like well,I've seen, I've never.
It's, it's too bad.
I didn't get around to watching.
I watched High Fidelity.
I didn't get around to watchingI watched High Fidelity.
I didn't love it.
I mean it was good, but Ididn't see Be Kind Rewind that's

(01:23:55):
kind of my problem.
Or Orange County, so I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
You guys take the lead on that, be Kind.
Rewind is not Hall of Fameworthy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
But what about Orange County?

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
If someone out there who is a huge Orange County fan
and has that in their letterboxtop four.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
I'm sure can make a great case for it, and I would
be left saying sure, okay, but Ifeel like Orange County touches
some of the same things that hedoes in Saving.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Silverman and School of Rock Agreed, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Agreed King.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Kong's the most unique king.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Kong's the most unique king kong's most unique,
but we have bernie and theholiday in there.
King kong, you know, kind of isin that realm as far as like,
just like a straight actor,straight man uh, which one would
you move out max jumanji orgoosebumps, to get something

(01:24:51):
like king kong in I don't know,probably jumanji, um, because
even though I, I mean to behonest, I haven't seen either
goosebumps or jumanji.
However, goosebumps, as you said, was driven by jack black,
whereas jumanji, however,goosebumps, as you said, was
driven by Jack Black, whereasJumanji he is doing the Tropic

(01:25:12):
Thunder thing or the againSaving Silverman thing, where
he's part of a group and makesthe movie funny and, without him
, probably falls flat.
Maybe we just leave it how wehave it.
Yeah, I mean I, yeah, I, Idon't know.

(01:25:34):
When you fire up king kong,it's not like you just wait till
you see jack black in this no,I'm like just wait till you see.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Kyle chandler, that's what I'm saying I think, that
like, come you know, making thislist.
Really like, when I think aboutmaking like a top 10 of
somebody's work, I'm thinkingthat I'm going to present this
to someone who doesn't know whoJack Black is Right.
You know, and some of it, andjust be like this these are the
movies that like really not onlyembody his like him as an actor

(01:26:05):
, but also just some of hisgreatest roles, and if some of
them are similar then I guessyou know, so be it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
You know that's, that's okay, like well, and also
we always like to have that onefilm on the side.
That's just like it's not in,but it's for the real heads and
maybe king kong or orange countyor year one or year one is is
kind of that like get throughthese 10 and then, like you can
really dig into some gems.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Okay, we leave it as is.
I can't believe we nailed it.
10 on that, that's prettyamazing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
I love that.
Okay, any final thoughts onJack Black Max?
Any role you would love to seehim in?

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
I'm ready for his Good Will Hunting turn, going
for the Oscar Robin Williamsstyle.
I want to see him do somethingserious.
I want to see him calm down.
I want to see his beard groomed.
I want to see him maybe workout a little bit.
Yeah, I'd love to see him dosomething opposite of what he's

(01:27:08):
been doing for probably sinceKing Kong or the holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
There's room for it right.
I think there's room for allthree of the things that we've
mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
And again, much like Robin Williams, he has built up
such a familiar like.
We are familiar with him, welike him's.
He's charming.
I I think if he did go forsomething like that, like we
would go along with the ride,yeah, and we would probably love
him, and not that he needs tostar as somebody, but like again

(01:27:41):
, as like a, a supporting actorin something serious, maybe
sentimental, because we know hecan do that, he can touch hearts
and I'm ready for it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Yeah, I'm thinking of like Adam Sandler as well.
Right, yeah.
Where's the punch drunk lovefor for Jack Black?
That would be really cool.
I think you could pull that offas well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Yeah, but you know, until then he's just going to
keep cashing checks checks, Imean for kids.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Yeah, his net worth has got to be insane after all
this work.
Unbelievable.
That's crazy stuff.
Okay, so that does it for ourconversation on Jack Black, the
Minecraft movie or a Minecraftmovie and his Hall of Fame
discussion.
Next week on the show we haveSinners.
The movie calendar is finallystarting to pick up a little bit

(01:28:31):
, so I'm not sure exactly how wewant to fashion this discussion
.
Ryan coogler, extremelyinteresting filmmaker.
We can talk about vampires.
We can do it all next week.
Michael b jordan a little bitas well.
Um, so really looking forwardto that that.
That was definitely one of ourmost anticipated films of the
year when we had that discussionearlier, so really looking
forward to that.
That.
That was definitely one of ourmost anticipated films of the
year when we had that discussionearlier, so really looking
forward to that.
In the meantime, please followthe three of us on letterboxd

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track.
We're watching between showsand we'll talk to you next time
on excuse the intermission wheremovies still matter.
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