Valerie was a former Scientologist who worked in the Guardians office and was a spy planted in the FBI by Scientology. In this episode, she talks about her abusive relationship with her ex-husband, how Scientology protected him and how she finally escaped. This is a horrifying story of abuse, bravery and resilience.
Listen to Part one here.
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