March 7, 2025 • 28 mins
Welcome back to Extraordinary Strides! I’m your host, Coach Christine along with Ashley of Mystical Dream Travel, here to bring you all the insights, history, and must-know details about the world's most exciting marathons. Today, we're taking a deep dive into the Sydney Marathon, which has just joined the Abbott World Marathon Majors ranks as the seventh member of this prestigious series.
Joining us as we’ll explore:
✅ The history of the Sydney Marathon and its Olympic legacy
✅ The race date (mark your calendars for August 31, 2025!)
✅ Course highlights, including the Sydney Harbour Bridge and Opera House finish
✅ How to secure your spot—from general entry to charity programs
✅ Course details, cutoff times, and best spectator spots
✅ Travel tips, where to stay, and must-do activities for your Sydney runcation
✅ Aussie running lingo, pop culture, and the ultimate Sydney Marathon playlist
Whether you’re dreaming of earning your Six Star Medal or just want to experience an incredible destination race, Sydney is shaping up to be a bucket-list event for runners worldwide.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello runners and travelers, welcome to another
exciting episode of theExtraordinary Strides podcast.
I'm coach Christine and todaywe're diving into a monumental
event in the running world.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
That's right, Christine.
The Sydney Marathon hasofficially joined the ranks of
the Abbott World Marathon majors, becoming the seventh member of
this elite group.
This is a huge news forMarathon Institute enthusiasts
worldwide, including yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It is.
I don't know how excited I amabout it quite yet, but we'll
definitely discuss it.
So, friends, though I do wantto remind you, ashley, with
Mystical Dream Travel is ourofficial runcation expert around
these care parks, so if you'renot already following her on
Instagram, do yourself a favorand definitely check her out.
(00:50):
Ashley, we're so excited tohave you here with us again as
we explore why Sydney became amajor essentially and this must
experience event Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
But let's not forget about the history.
So the Sydney Marathon didbegin in April 30th 2000 as the
host city marathon, serving as atest event for Sydney 2000
Olympic Games.
That is a very fun fact aboutthis one, because I don't think
many of them can claim to famethat way.
(01:23):
I don't think so.
Yeah.
And since then it has evolvedinto a premier race reflecting
the Olympic legacy.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, now it's been officially included in the World
Marathon majors, after passingthe very vigorous three years in
a row and starting this year,in 2025,.
Sydney will stand alongsideBoston, london and Tokyo and, of
course, this recognition speaksvolumes about the marathon's
prestige and the dedication ofits organizers.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Absolutely, and the first Sydney Marathon as a world
major will be Sunday, august31st 2025.
And our very own Coach,christine, will be there to give
it its debut.
This date was a shift from itstraditional September slot,
though, so it is positionedstrategically a month before the
(02:17):
Berlin Marathon.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I was not surprised to see that happen, because I
was holding different spots inmy calendar and I saw that there
was going to be a conflict withBerlin, so I'm not surprised.
Plus, I think that there's beena little bit of feedback from
runners that it was a little toowarm for their September slot,
cause, of course, they're in theSouthern hemisphere, so the
weather's a little different,but we'll talk about that later.
(02:40):
Um, but what I love about thisis that the timing offers
runners a unique experience toparticipate in back-to-back
major marathons, though I don'tnecessarily know, I don't think
I could do it, but I know a lotof folks do.
I'm kind of curious, thoughwhat are we calling this?
Is this a summer race?
Is this a spring race?
(03:01):
Because it's spring in theSouthern Hemisphere, but we're
going to be training for it herein the Northern Hemisphere and
it's almost like fall.
So what is it?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh, I would classify that as a summer.
Anything in like August, I'mstill saying, is summer.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But their weather is going to be like a full on.
They're coming out of winterand it's spring, so I feel like
this is going to be weird.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Very true, very true, very true.
And that's a whole nother worldand that's why we love the
world.
Marathon majors, you get alittle peek inside of a
different area.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, absolutely.
It'll be my first timetraveling to the Southern
hemisphere, so I think that'llbe interesting.
So let's hit.
Let's get some other fun factsgoing there.
What do you got, ashley?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
As we have already spoken about, it is kind of a
course from the Sydney 2000Olympics.
But did you know that theSydney Marathon is the only
remaining participant legacyfrom the 2000 Olympics?
It's like running through apiece of history when you're
running on this course.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh, I can't wait, okay.
Well, speaking of, of course,this is a unique experience
because runners get to cross theSydney Harbor Bridge absolutely
traffic-free, which is a raretreat that offers breathtaking
views of the city and the harbor, of course.
So let's get into some courserecords because, as we so,
(04:22):
there's a little bit ofcontroversy as to whether this
is.
I personally think it's goingto be the toughest course now
that it's been added to theworld marathon majors, but
there's some controversy as towhether it's as tough or maybe
not as tough as New York city.
Um, I still think that New Yorkcity is the toughest of the
courses.
Um, just because of theelevation changes.
So this is not a fast and flat.
(04:44):
That's all to say that it's notfast and flat.
However, as of 2024, the men'scourse record was held by
Brimman Kipkoror, from Kenya,with a time of two hours six
minutes and 18 seconds, and onthe women's side, ethiopia's
Orkinesh Edessa set the recordat 221.41.
(05:06):
I do know there's also beensome controversy, with some of
their participants in the elitefield from last year testing
positive, but aside from that,these are incredible fast times.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Absolutely, and these records highlight some of the
most competitive nature of therace.
It does have very scenic coursesites that you can see along
the way.
So obviously not the flatcourses that we all know and
love, but definitely that diveinto history, I think, is
(05:40):
something like no other, verysimilar to the Tokyo marathon,
that you get to see so manyhistorical things.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So do you like elevation changes or do you
prefer fat, flat and fast?
Oh cause, some runners don'tlike flat.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, I kind of like the elevation, Um it just it
gives you that little bit of achallenge of like what's coming,
Um, but it also kind of givesyou that little speed, um, when
you're doing the hills and yourtraining kind of prepping you
for that.
It gives you a little bit ofspeed as well, Um.
(06:20):
So I honestly prefer kind ofyour little hills Now not
complete hills, they're like amile worth of the hills but some
pickups here and there.
I think it's nice for thatlittle challenge and it's not
just all flat to give my legs alittle bit of a different
workout in different areas.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well, you have plenty of races on your roster that
are going to give you that aswell, so, but it sounds like
Sydney will be a great race foryou.
So let's talk about how to gainentry into this marathon.
Given its new status as theworld marathon major, of course,
the demand was higher than ever.
Runners could have secured aspot through.
Well, they can still for afuture, but the general entry
(07:01):
through the lottery has alreadybeen had for 2025.
But the general entry throughthe lottery has already been had
for 2025.
And again, I would definitelysuggest that you go to the
Sydney Marathon website andregister for their newsletter so
, if you're thinking of doingthis in future years, you can
get on their email list so thatyou're well aware of when those
lottery ballot spots are openingup.
(07:22):
However, again, you can getcharity programs One of my gal
pals is actually doing that andyou can participate by
fundraising for one of themarathon's affiliated charities.
Or there's travel packages, soseveral tour operators offer
packages that include race andtree accommodations and
sightseeing.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And it's obviously worth noting that the Abbott
World Marathon Majors will offera drop program for runners
aiming to complete all majormarathons.
So keep an eye on theirannouncements for additional
entry opportunities to come inthe future.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So tell me about this course because we talked a
little bit about it, but let'stalk about the course for folks
that are thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Absolutely.
The marathon features apoint-to-point course, so
something a little bit different.
Starting in North Sydney Oval,adjacent to Miller Street, the
runners will cross the scenicSydney Harbor Bridge and finish
in front of the Sydney OperaHouse.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
That's so fun.
It's that Sydney Opera Housethat I think most people are
most excited about, for therecord, like I can just
visualize it and it's trulyiconic when you think of Sydney.
Now, one of the beautifulthings about the World Marathon
majors when they're looking atthese races is they do, during
the vetting process, taken a lotof the feedback from runners
(08:44):
and professionals that are outthere.
So they have made a few asyou've already alluded to recent
course enhancements to make ita little bit faster and a little
bit more scenic.
The route now includes longer,straighter sections and fewer
U-turns, because if you haveever decided to do like one of
those POV YouTube videos ofwatching what it looked like
(09:04):
before, there were a bazillionU-turns.
So we are very appreciativethat they've made these changes.
It's likely going to pay offand being a much smoother
experience for runners.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Absolutely.
Now I have to know, because Iknow we talked about this before
do you like the U-turns?
Do you like seeing the otherrunners?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I do.
I do like seeing other runners,but I do know that, from a
perspective of slowing yourselfdown, a U-turn does slow you
down quite a bit, Not likeBerlin where you bank a bit, but
a full on U-turn does does slowyou down.
It is hard and I mean weexperienced that when we do run
Disney.
They have those U-turn spotsand you always kind of have to
(09:43):
slow down through those as well.
Yeah, but I do love seeing theother runners.
I am always so inspired by the,by both the front of the pack
and back of the pack andeverything in between.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Now, let's not forget, thereare some uh unfun things to talk
about, such as course limitsand cutoffs.
Um.
So the participants areallotted a generous seven hour
window for this race.
Um, so that's obviously alittle bit more cushion than
some of the other ones, butthere are specific cutoff points
(10:18):
along the route to ensure thesafety and timely progression of
the event.
Uh, we want to make sure we'rekeeping the locals happy that
this event is occurring, so, inthose cutoff times, so those
roads can reopen.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, that's really what it comes down to is getting
the city back up and likerunning.
But I think it's reallyimportant to know that you
shouldn't go into this whereyou're panicked, just to have
the knowledge of it so that youcan feel ready for it.
Um, so what would you say wouldbe some things to get ready for
this race.
Weekend experience Ashley.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So you always want to make sure you are taking into
consideration going to the expopre-race, uh.
So for this race, the SydneyRunning Show is a must visit.
It's where you'll pick up yourrace kit and have the chance to
explore the latest in runninggear and nutrition.
Again, a quick note here nevertry anything new on race weekend
(11:18):
until you have tested it.
So maybe pick up some goodiesand try them at home, but never
on race day.
Uh, they're also going to befuel and hydration on the course
, so making sure, uh, thatyou're aware what that is.
So for this race, they doprovide new pure water, um, and
(11:39):
all the drink station stationfixed nutrition electrolytes
every 5K and goo gels at every20K, uh, in 30 or, I'm sorry,
the 20 and the 30K stations, um.
So it is advisable to carryyour own specific nutrition that
(12:00):
you have trained with.
But if you have trained withthis, that is going to be on the
course for you to utilize.
Now, like we had talked about,this is going to be in late
August, but it marks thebeginning of spring.
Typically during the springtimefor them, the temperatures
range from 60 degrees Fahrenheitto 68 degrees Fahrenheit, so
still pretty comfortable raceconditions, not like you're on
(12:24):
the face of the sun, but beprepared for potential chilly
winds or the possibility of rain.
This is always something.
Make sure you're taking plentyof race gear, trying a bunch of
different outfits prior to therace weekend to make sure it's
something that you're trulycomfortable in.
Again, to make sure it'ssomething that you're truly
(12:47):
comfortable in.
As we know, you have to shiftyour race outfit sometimes
because the weather changes atthe last minute, so you want to
make sure you're prepared forany situation, even if the
temperatures are typicallyrelatively favorable during that
time.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, I think this is where, if you can try to mimic
some of the conditions thatyou're going to experience, and
by that means that you reallycan't 100% except to don't avoid
those bad weather runs I know alot of us tend to not want to
get out there if it's rainy orif it's warm or if it's too cold
, and I think that lettingyourself kind of just become
(13:21):
familiar with the differentchallenges that may come up with
different weather conditionsduring your training will pay
off, for, regardless of whateverhappens whether wise the day of
I'm so excited that we had thisconversation because I am now
going to be trying to figure outhow to get fixed nutrition
electrolytes, but I can trainfor them with them during the
summer, because I don't likecarrying other extra stuff with
(13:41):
me if I can avoid it.
So this is so good, which again,I do recommend if you're going
to be going into a differentarea that has potentially
different electrolytes, andyou're used to.
If you can find it onlineluckily we have that access
nowadays and training with it aswell.
So one of the things that we'vetalked about actually is how
important it is for ourspectators that are joining us
(14:03):
and our loved ones that come outon these runcations.
Can you give me some ideas of,maybe, where we could find our
spectators on this course?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So on the Sydney course there's so many wonderful
places for your spectators tocome cheer you along, the first
being that Sydney Harbor Bridge.
This is where your spectatorscan see them as they make a way
across the architecture marvel,have some nice views, maybe some
awesome pictures of theirrunners coming through.
(14:33):
You also have the rocks, whichare a historic area.
That provides a charmingbackdrop, but it's also close to
the course, so so you can stilldo that little cheer um to give
them a little pep in their step.
And then we always love afinish line moment, so the best
place for this is the circularquay.
Uh, it's perfect for cheeringthem on just before they get to
(14:56):
that final stretch, um, into thefinish line shoot.
So those are always there's.
I love the end of the race here, you know.
It just gives you that littleextra tunnel to get there.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, absolutely.
I will say that some of thefeedback that I've read about or
heard is that, because it isstill a newer race in terms of
how its history, it doesn'tnecessarily have the same amount
of crowds as we wouldexperience in Chicago or New
York City.
So I think that if you aretraveling with others, knowing
that you can encourage yoursupporters to come out and cheer
(15:29):
for you, of course, but cheerfor all of the other runners
that are out there as well tohelp steward this race along and
towards its epic proportions ofall that fun.
Now, one of the things that Ithink can be challenging for
folks and one of the reasons whyI hear people say that they're
intimidated by the WorldMarathon majors is how in the
world to get around.
(15:49):
So give me an idea, Ashley, asto what you're thinking how do
we get around when we're inSydney?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, so, like many of the World Marathon majors,
there's a couple different waysto get around the city, the
first one being via trains.
So the city circle lineconnects major spots, including
near the start and the finishline areas, so always a great
(16:15):
option.
Doesn't really involve the roadclosures and such, so I always
love those different I call themEaster eggs to get around.
And then you do have the busesand the ferries.
So these offer extensive routesthroughout the city and
surrounding areas, making it asafe option as well.
But again, keep in mind thereare going to be road closures
throughout the course, sokeeping that in mind when you're
(16:37):
planning the routes around.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Very cool.
So utilizing an Opal card isgoing to help provide that
seamless access across allpublic transportation and
luckily, a lot of these thingscan be garnered or had even
before you leave home.
So looking into it before youactually get there is always
great, but not really concerningyourself too much that there's
always that option of doing itwhen you're there.
(17:01):
Just give yourself a little bitof buffer when you do arrive to
make sure you get a lay of theland.
So again with thisinternational trip, one of the
things that I hear is thatpeople are really anxious about
where do I stay.
So what are some of thesuggestions that you would have,
ashley, for folks as to whatarea of Sydney should they be
(17:22):
staying at?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
what area of Sydney should they be staying at?
So you do have options near therocks in the circular quay that
are both near the finish linearea.
There are a wide range ofhotels and you do have the
stunning harbor views, which isalways fun when you have a room
with a view.
Or you can also stay northSydney, which is closer to the
starting area, making racemorning logistics a little
(17:49):
simpler, Kind of take thatstress off of you.
When you're getting up in themorning you're in a new area.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Just making sure you know where you're going at the
beginning is definitelysomething that's important is
definitely something that'simportant, and would you suggest
that people should book theiraccommodations like three months
, six months?
When should they book theiraccommodations?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Accommodations are one of the first things that I
always recommend doing.
So as soon as you know yourtimeframe, book it.
Most of the hotels do offer acancellation policy that's
typically very generous, sosomething changes, you can
always cancel that.
But if you don't haveaccommodations and you get into
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the race and it's all sold out,you might not have very many
options.
So always booking as early asyou possibly can is the best
option, in my opinion, to do.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Okay, Well, let's get into.
I wholeheartedly agree, for therecord, like that's probably
the thing that I do before Ieven know if I'm going to do the
race, to be honest, becausethey book up so quickly.
But what do I?
We're planning a rencation, myfriend.
What do we see?
What do we do while we're outthere?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well, the first thing , of course, is the Sydney Opera
House tour.
How can you go and not tourthis?
So there are tour options forthat.
There's the Bondi Beach, whereyou can relax on the shores,
take a dip in the ocean, kind ofhang out, get those stretches
in, maybe do a little yoga onthe beach pre or post marathon.
(19:25):
And then there is the Taronga Ihope I said that correct zoo,
uh where you can obviously meetAustralia's unique wildlife with
a city skyline as the backdrop.
I do think that's definitelysomething that's very unique to
um Sydney.
You might see some differentanimals at the zoo that you
(19:45):
might not see at some other ones, so this would be a great
option for those traveling witha family.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And I 100% agree.
I feel like also, if you wantto have a more relaxed kind of a
little bit of a light time onyour feet, to get some movement
on, you could always head overto the Royal Botanic Garden for
a little bit of a post-racestroll.
Or if you're feeling like youwant a little bit more pizzazz
and you're up for the hikingadventure, there's the Blue
(20:14):
Mountains Tour.
That's very easy to get to andI think that if you are
considering making it more of aruncation beyond Sydney, there's
also that opportunity to extendyour stay by maybe heading out
to the Great Barrier Reef oreven heading towards New Zealand
.
So kind of really looking at itas where can you maximize that
(20:35):
really long, long, long planeflight?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Now I have to ask, though, what's top on your list
when you go?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, I mean, I love hiking, so the blue mountains is
something I'm considering.
I do want to actually book abackstage Sydney opera house
tour and I would love to hop onover to New Zealand for maybe a
train tour or something at awinery, but we will see.
I haven't.
I don't know.
We have to sit down after we'redone recording.
(21:07):
You can help me plan this out,Ashley.
I mean, that's what you do, soI'll let you kind of.
I'll tell you all the thingsthat I like and you can figure
it out for me.
Um, but I do think we shouldalso discuss, like what are some
of the must try foods for thearea?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So I think my favorite is going to be the meat
pies as something a littleunique.
Obviously, it is a classicAustralian snack.
Perfect for a quick little biteto eat, but definitely a
classic to try.
Um, barramundi is a local fishdelicacy.
Um, it's often grilled, soobviously a nice little light,
(21:46):
uh, healthy option for you whileyou're there.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
It's one of my favorite fishes.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's yummy.
Yes, I like a little bit of alighter, flakier fish.
So yeah, it's.
It's yummy.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, or you also have a lemon?
I'm not sure, I don't.
Uh, it is a sponge cake squarecoated in chocolate and coconut.
So it's a perfect little sweetcelebration treat once you're
finished.
To me it's, it's giving likesomebody took a mound like candy
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bar and made a cake in it outof it like it sounds.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So yeah, I like.
I like that.
That does sound yummy when youdescribe it that way.
Do I have to eat Vegemite whenI'm out there?
I don't think I want to.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You have to try it.
It's part of the fun of doingworld travel.
You get to try all of the localfavorites to get those staple
items.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Okay, I will.
I will definitely give it a trywhile I'm out there, you know,
one of the things that I findfascinating is that, going into
different areas even of theUnited States, there's different
like sayings and phrases thatare more popular, and this is
going to be the case forAustralia.
So I wanted to explore that alittle bit with you and I wonder
if maybe we should kind of doit as a bit of a quiz.
(23:10):
I'm going to give you thephrase and then you tell me what
you think it means.
Does that sound fair?
Okay, we did plan this.
So she's like what?
Okay, if you have somebody outthere yelling at you, give it a
crack.
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'm going to go with.
Give it your best.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I mean, I think so.
Yeah, like I could see that,like a little bit of like a
cracking of the whip, you'regoing to get out there and
hustle.
Yeah, okay, okay, I got you.
Um, how about bonds a run?
Are we even speaking Englishanymore?
What does bonds mean?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, I'm going to go with bond as in like bonbons,
so like candy.
So maybe a sweet run would bemy interpretation.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I think that's fantastic.
Evidently it means a great run,so you had a great run.
So like that's what we endeavorto do every time we go out for
a run, yeah, yeah, okay.
Um, like when you go out foryour run with a friend, what
would you think that you wouldcall them?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
A running mate, a running, a running friend.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You're so close, yeah , running, so mateship I guess,
but kind of like instead ofrelationship or your friendship
it's your mateship, huh,interesting.
Okay, one more, one more, andthen I promise we'll move on.
Uh, this is crazy, I don't evenknow Like.
I'm looking at the answer andlooking at the thing and don't
(24:44):
the phrase is flat out like alizard drinking.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I'm going to take that as sitting on the beaches,
relax, drinking with like acocktail right.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
It means going all out or running at your max
effort.
Is that true?
That doesn't make sense to me,See but again be your new
favorite phrase like a lizarddrinking.
Yeah, definitely, I think thisis going to be fun.
I'm looking forward to hearingmate quite frequently, and did
(25:16):
Anya.
I'm definitely going to takethese as compliments.
Okay, let's get into a littlebit of like pop culture.
Ashley, what, what do you gotunderneath to get me jazzed for
this?
This particular Sydney run?
What should I be diving into?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Sydney run.
What should I be diving into?
Yeah, so there's some awesomemovies from this area.
You have Crocodile Dundee,finding Nemo which was a shock
to me Muriel's Wedding Australia, so lots of great movies there.
Some songs that are from thearea are down under, from men at
work, land down under from ludyum, and then I still call
(26:02):
australia home from peter allennow something obviously that's
not movies or song related.
You know, expanded a little bit, is obviously everybody's
favorite crocodile hunter.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
That, sadly, is no longer with us, but his kiddo
continues to like keep it going.
Okay, yeah, that'll be fun.
I wonder if there'll be anyreferences.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, okay, something from my childhood that so kind
of lives on to this day.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Do you like his kiddo ?
Have you followed any of whathis kiddo's doing?
They look really similar.
Yeah, that's awesome I didn'tknow that you were kind of a
nature, kind of gal Makes sense,though it does.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It's always fun to see the little different animals
and stuff that isn't alwaysfrom here.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it and I'm also going
to say that I'm looking forwardto seeing all of you guys that
are going out there this year tojoin me and Sydney.
And there you have it.
This is everything that youneed to know about the Sydney
Marathon, the newest of theWorld Marathon majors.
But I want you guys to weigh inand let me know is it
officially a spring race or dowe call it summer because we're
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going to be training in summer?
You guys, let us know what youthink.
I will say I do think it'sshaping up to be a big bucket
list race for runners worldwide.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Absolutely.
And don't forget, it's not justabout the race.
Sydney offers world-classsightseeing, incredible food and
a classic Aussie hospitality.
Whether you're aiming for apersonal best or soaking up the
vibes, this marathon is going tobe one to remember.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Awesome, and if you're thinking about running
Sydney or any of the majors, besure to join us at the Stride
Collective or Women of the WorldMarathon Majors on Facebook.
We've got training tips, travelhacks, of course, and plenty of
running banter, whether it's inAussie or in typical American
English.
Links on the links for both ofthese groups are going to be in
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show notes.
Next up we're heading to Berlin, home of world records, fast
paces and some serious marathonmagic.
Until then, mates keep stridingtoward extraordinary.
Hello runners and travelers, welcome to another
exciting episode of theExtraordinary Strides podcast.
I'm coach Christine and todaywe're diving into a monumental
event in the running world.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
That's right, Christine.
The Sydney Marathon hasofficially joined the ranks of
the Abbott World Marathon majors, becoming the seventh member of
this elite group.
This is a huge news forMarathon Institute enthusiasts
worldwide, including yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It is.
I don't know how excited I amabout it quite yet, but we'll
definitely discuss it.
So, friends, though I do wantto remind you, ashley, with
Mystical Dream Travel is ourofficial runcation expert around
these care parks, so if you'renot already following her on
Instagram, do yourself a favorand definitely check her out.
(00:50):
Ashley, we're so excited tohave you here with us again as
we explore why Sydney became amajor essentially and this must
experience event Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
But let's not forget about the history.
So the Sydney Marathon didbegin in April 30th 2000 as the
host city marathon, serving as atest event for Sydney 2000
Olympic Games.
That is a very fun fact aboutthis one, because I don't think
many of them can claim to famethat way.
(01:23):
I don't think so.
Yeah.
And since then it has evolvedinto a premier race reflecting
the Olympic legacy.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, now it's been officially included in the World
Marathon majors, after passingthe very vigorous three years in
a row and starting this year,in 2025,.
Sydney will stand alongsideBoston, london and Tokyo and, of
course, this recognition speaksvolumes about the marathon's
prestige and the dedication ofits organizers.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Absolutely, and the first Sydney Marathon as a world
major will be Sunday, august31st 2025.
And our very own Coach,christine, will be there to give
it its debut.
This date was a shift from itstraditional September slot,
though, so it is positionedstrategically a month before the
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Berlin Marathon.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I was not surprised to see that happen, because I
was holding different spots inmy calendar and I saw that there
was going to be a conflict withBerlin, so I'm not surprised.
Plus, I think that there's beena little bit of feedback from
runners that it was a little toowarm for their September slot,
cause, of course, they're in theSouthern hemisphere, so the
weather's a little different,but we'll talk about that later.
(02:40):
Um, but what I love about thisis that the timing offers
runners a unique experience toparticipate in back-to-back
major marathons, though I don'tnecessarily know, I don't think
I could do it, but I know a lotof folks do.
I'm kind of curious, thoughwhat are we calling this?
Is this a summer race?
Is this a spring race?
(03:01):
Because it's spring in theSouthern Hemisphere, but we're
going to be training for it herein the Northern Hemisphere and
it's almost like fall.
So what is it?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh, I would classify that as a summer.
Anything in like August, I'mstill saying, is summer.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But their weather is going to be like a full on.
They're coming out of winterand it's spring, so I feel like
this is going to be weird.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Very true, very true, very true.
And that's a whole nother worldand that's why we love the
world.
Marathon majors, you get alittle peek inside of a
different area.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, absolutely.
It'll be my first timetraveling to the Southern
hemisphere, so I think that'llbe interesting.
So let's hit.
Let's get some other fun factsgoing there.
What do you got, ashley?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
As we have already spoken about, it is kind of a
course from the Sydney 2000Olympics.
But did you know that theSydney Marathon is the only
remaining participant legacyfrom the 2000 Olympics?
It's like running through apiece of history when you're
running on this course.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh, I can't wait, okay.
Well, speaking of, of course,this is a unique experience
because runners get to cross theSydney Harbor Bridge absolutely
traffic-free, which is a raretreat that offers breathtaking
views of the city and the harbor, of course.
So let's get into some courserecords because, as we so,
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there's a little bit ofcontroversy as to whether this
is.
I personally think it's goingto be the toughest course now
that it's been added to theworld marathon majors, but
there's some controversy as towhether it's as tough or maybe
not as tough as New York city.
Um, I still think that New Yorkcity is the toughest of the
courses.
Um, just because of theelevation changes.
So this is not a fast and flat.
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That's all to say that it's notfast and flat.
However, as of 2024, the men'scourse record was held by
Brimman Kipkoror, from Kenya,with a time of two hours six
minutes and 18 seconds, and onthe women's side, ethiopia's
Orkinesh Edessa set the recordat 221.41.
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I do know there's also beensome controversy, with some of
their participants in the elitefield from last year testing
positive, but aside from that,these are incredible fast times.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Absolutely, and these records highlight some of the
most competitive nature of therace.
It does have very scenic coursesites that you can see along
the way.
So obviously not the flatcourses that we all know and
love, but definitely that diveinto history, I think, is
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something like no other, verysimilar to the Tokyo marathon,
that you get to see so manyhistorical things.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So do you like elevation changes or do you
prefer fat, flat and fast?
Oh cause, some runners don'tlike flat.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, I kind of like the elevation, Um it just it
gives you that little bit of achallenge of like what's coming,
Um, but it also kind of givesyou that little speed, um, when
you're doing the hills and yourtraining kind of prepping you
for that.
It gives you a little bit ofspeed as well, Um.
(06:20):
So I honestly prefer kind ofyour little hills Now not
complete hills, they're like amile worth of the hills but some
pickups here and there.
I think it's nice for thatlittle challenge and it's not
just all flat to give my legs alittle bit of a different
workout in different areas.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Well, you have plenty of races on your roster that
are going to give you that aswell, so, but it sounds like
Sydney will be a great race foryou.
So let's talk about how to gainentry into this marathon.
Given its new status as theworld marathon major, of course,
the demand was higher than ever.
Runners could have secured aspot through.
Well, they can still for afuture, but the general entry
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through the lottery has alreadybeen had for 2025.
But the general entry throughthe lottery has already been had
for 2025.
And again, I would definitelysuggest that you go to the
Sydney Marathon website andregister for their newsletter so
, if you're thinking of doingthis in future years, you can
get on their email list so thatyou're well aware of when those
lottery ballot spots are openingup.
(07:22):
However, again, you can getcharity programs One of my gal
pals is actually doing that andyou can participate by
fundraising for one of themarathon's affiliated charities.
Or there's travel packages, soseveral tour operators offer
packages that include race andtree accommodations and
sightseeing.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And it's obviously worth noting that the Abbott
World Marathon Majors will offera drop program for runners
aiming to complete all majormarathons.
So keep an eye on theirannouncements for additional
entry opportunities to come inthe future.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So tell me about this course because we talked a
little bit about it, but let'stalk about the course for folks
that are thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Absolutely.
The marathon features apoint-to-point course, so
something a little bit different.
Starting in North Sydney Oval,adjacent to Miller Street, the
runners will cross the scenicSydney Harbor Bridge and finish
in front of the Sydney OperaHouse.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
That's so fun.
It's that Sydney Opera Housethat I think most people are
most excited about, for therecord, like I can just
visualize it and it's trulyiconic when you think of Sydney.
Now, one of the beautifulthings about the World Marathon
majors when they're looking atthese races is they do, during
the vetting process, taken a lotof the feedback from runners
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and professionals that are outthere.
So they have made a few asyou've already alluded to recent
course enhancements to make ita little bit faster and a little
bit more scenic.
The route now includes longer,straighter sections and fewer
U-turns, because if you haveever decided to do like one of
those POV YouTube videos ofwatching what it looked like
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before, there were a bazillionU-turns.
So we are very appreciativethat they've made these changes.
It's likely going to pay offand being a much smoother
experience for runners.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Absolutely.
Now I have to know, because Iknow we talked about this before
do you like the U-turns?
Do you like seeing the otherrunners?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I do.
I do like seeing other runners,but I do know that, from a
perspective of slowing yourselfdown, a U-turn does slow you
down quite a bit, Not likeBerlin where you bank a bit, but
a full on U-turn does does slowyou down.
It is hard and I mean weexperienced that when we do run
Disney.
They have those U-turn spotsand you always kind of have to
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slow down through those as well.
Yeah, but I do love seeing theother runners.
I am always so inspired by the,by both the front of the pack
and back of the pack andeverything in between.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Now, let's not forget, thereare some uh unfun things to talk
about, such as course limitsand cutoffs.
Um.
So the participants areallotted a generous seven hour
window for this race.
Um, so that's obviously alittle bit more cushion than
some of the other ones, butthere are specific cutoff points
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along the route to ensure thesafety and timely progression of
the event.
Uh, we want to make sure we'rekeeping the locals happy that
this event is occurring, so, inthose cutoff times, so those
roads can reopen.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, that's really what it comes down to is getting
the city back up and likerunning.
But I think it's reallyimportant to know that you
shouldn't go into this whereyou're panicked, just to have
the knowledge of it so that youcan feel ready for it.
Um, so what would you say wouldbe some things to get ready for
this race.
Weekend experience Ashley.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So you always want to make sure you are taking into
consideration going to the expopre-race, uh.
So for this race, the SydneyRunning Show is a must visit.
It's where you'll pick up yourrace kit and have the chance to
explore the latest in runninggear and nutrition.
Again, a quick note here nevertry anything new on race weekend
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until you have tested it.
So maybe pick up some goodiesand try them at home, but never
on race day.
Uh, they're also going to befuel and hydration on the course
, so making sure, uh, thatyou're aware what that is.
So for this race, they doprovide new pure water, um, and
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all the drink station stationfixed nutrition electrolytes
every 5K and goo gels at every20K, uh, in 30 or, I'm sorry,
the 20 and the 30K stations, um.
So it is advisable to carryyour own specific nutrition that
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you have trained with.
But if you have trained withthis, that is going to be on the
course for you to utilize.
Now, like we had talked about,this is going to be in late
August, but it marks thebeginning of spring.
Typically during the springtimefor them, the temperatures
range from 60 degrees Fahrenheitto 68 degrees Fahrenheit, so
still pretty comfortable raceconditions, not like you're on
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the face of the sun, but beprepared for potential chilly
winds or the possibility of rain.
This is always something.
Make sure you're taking plentyof race gear, trying a bunch of
different outfits prior to therace weekend to make sure it's
something that you're trulycomfortable in.
Again, to make sure it'ssomething that you're truly
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comfortable in.
As we know, you have to shiftyour race outfit sometimes
because the weather changes atthe last minute, so you want to
make sure you're prepared forany situation, even if the
temperatures are typicallyrelatively favorable during that
time.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, I think this is where, if you can try to mimic
some of the conditions thatyou're going to experience, and
by that means that you reallycan't 100% except to don't avoid
those bad weather runs I know alot of us tend to not want to
get out there if it's rainy orif it's warm or if it's too cold
, and I think that lettingyourself kind of just become
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familiar with the differentchallenges that may come up with
different weather conditionsduring your training will pay
off, for, regardless of whateverhappens whether wise the day of
I'm so excited that we had thisconversation because I am now
going to be trying to figure outhow to get fixed nutrition
electrolytes, but I can trainfor them with them during the
summer, because I don't likecarrying other extra stuff with
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me if I can avoid it.
So this is so good, which again,I do recommend if you're going
to be going into a differentarea that has potentially
different electrolytes, andyou're used to.
If you can find it onlineluckily we have that access
nowadays and training with it aswell.
So one of the things that we'vetalked about actually is how
important it is for ourspectators that are joining us
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and our loved ones that come outon these runcations.
Can you give me some ideas of,maybe, where we could find our
spectators on this course?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So on the Sydney course there's so many wonderful
places for your spectators tocome cheer you along, the first
being that Sydney Harbor Bridge.
This is where your spectatorscan see them as they make a way
across the architecture marvel,have some nice views, maybe some
awesome pictures of theirrunners coming through.
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You also have the rocks, whichare a historic area.
That provides a charmingbackdrop, but it's also close to
the course, so so you can stilldo that little cheer um to give
them a little pep in their step.
And then we always love afinish line moment, so the best
place for this is the circularquay.
Uh, it's perfect for cheeringthem on just before they get to
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that final stretch, um, into thefinish line shoot.
So those are always there's.
I love the end of the race here, you know.
It just gives you that littleextra tunnel to get there.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, absolutely.
I will say that some of thefeedback that I've read about or
heard is that, because it isstill a newer race in terms of
how its history, it doesn'tnecessarily have the same amount
of crowds as we wouldexperience in Chicago or New
York City.
So I think that if you aretraveling with others, knowing
that you can encourage yoursupporters to come out and cheer
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for you, of course, but cheerfor all of the other runners
that are out there as well tohelp steward this race along and
towards its epic proportions ofall that fun.
Now, one of the things that Ithink can be challenging for
folks and one of the reasons whyI hear people say that they're
intimidated by the WorldMarathon majors is how in the
world to get around.
(15:49):
So give me an idea, Ashley, asto what you're thinking how do
we get around when we're inSydney?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, so, like many of the World Marathon majors,
there's a couple different waysto get around the city, the
first one being via trains.
So the city circle lineconnects major spots, including
near the start and the finishline areas, so always a great
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option.
Doesn't really involve the roadclosures and such, so I always
love those different I call themEaster eggs to get around.
And then you do have the busesand the ferries.
So these offer extensive routesthroughout the city and
surrounding areas, making it asafe option as well.
But again, keep in mind thereare going to be road closures
throughout the course, sokeeping that in mind when you're
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planning the routes around.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Very cool.
So utilizing an Opal card isgoing to help provide that
seamless access across allpublic transportation and
luckily, a lot of these thingscan be garnered or had even
before you leave home.
So looking into it before youactually get there is always
great, but not really concerningyourself too much that there's
always that option of doing itwhen you're there.
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Just give yourself a little bitof buffer when you do arrive to
make sure you get a lay of theland.
So again with thisinternational trip, one of the
things that I hear is thatpeople are really anxious about
where do I stay.
So what are some of thesuggestions that you would have,
ashley, for folks as to whatarea of Sydney should they be
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staying at?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
what area of Sydney should they be staying at?
So you do have options near therocks in the circular quay that
are both near the finish linearea.
There are a wide range ofhotels and you do have the
stunning harbor views, which isalways fun when you have a room
with a view.
Or you can also stay northSydney, which is closer to the
starting area, making racemorning logistics a little
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simpler, Kind of take thatstress off of you.
When you're getting up in themorning you're in a new area.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Just making sure you know where you're going at the
beginning is definitelysomething that's important is
definitely something that'simportant, and would you suggest
that people should book theiraccommodations like three months
, six months?
When should they book theiraccommodations?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Accommodations are one of the first things that I
always recommend doing.
So as soon as you know yourtimeframe, book it.
Most of the hotels do offer acancellation policy that's
typically very generous, sosomething changes, you can
always cancel that.
But if you don't haveaccommodations and you get into
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the race and it's all sold out,you might not have very many
options.
So always booking as early asyou possibly can is the best
option, in my opinion, to do.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Okay, Well, let's get into.
I wholeheartedly agree, for therecord, like that's probably
the thing that I do before Ieven know if I'm going to do the
race, to be honest, becausethey book up so quickly.
But what do I?
We're planning a rencation, myfriend.
What do we see?
What do we do while we're outthere?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well, the first thing , of course, is the Sydney Opera
House tour.
How can you go and not tourthis?
So there are tour options forthat.
There's the Bondi Beach, whereyou can relax on the shores,
take a dip in the ocean, kind ofhang out, get those stretches
in, maybe do a little yoga onthe beach pre or post marathon.
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And then there is the Taronga Ihope I said that correct zoo,
uh where you can obviously meetAustralia's unique wildlife with
a city skyline as the backdrop.
I do think that's definitelysomething that's very unique to
um Sydney.
You might see some differentanimals at the zoo that you
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might not see at some other ones, so this would be a great
option for those traveling witha family.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And I 100% agree.
I feel like also, if you wantto have a more relaxed kind of a
little bit of a light time onyour feet, to get some movement
on, you could always head overto the Royal Botanic Garden for
a little bit of a post-racestroll.
Or if you're feeling like youwant a little bit more pizzazz
and you're up for the hikingadventure, there's the Blue
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Mountains Tour.
That's very easy to get to andI think that if you are
considering making it more of aruncation beyond Sydney, there's
also that opportunity to extendyour stay by maybe heading out
to the Great Barrier Reef oreven heading towards New Zealand
.
So kind of really looking at itas where can you maximize that
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really long, long, long planeflight?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Now I have to ask, though, what's top on your list
when you go?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, I mean, I love hiking, so the blue mountains is
something I'm considering.
I do want to actually book abackstage Sydney opera house
tour and I would love to hop onover to New Zealand for maybe a
train tour or something at awinery, but we will see.
I haven't.
I don't know.
We have to sit down after we'redone recording.
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You can help me plan this out,Ashley.
I mean, that's what you do, soI'll let you kind of.
I'll tell you all the thingsthat I like and you can figure
it out for me.
Um, but I do think we shouldalso discuss, like what are some
of the must try foods for thearea?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So I think my favorite is going to be the meat
pies as something a littleunique.
Obviously, it is a classicAustralian snack.
Perfect for a quick little biteto eat, but definitely a
classic to try.
Um, barramundi is a local fishdelicacy.
Um, it's often grilled, soobviously a nice little light,
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uh, healthy option for you whileyou're there.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
It's one of my favorite fishes.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's yummy.
Yes, I like a little bit of alighter, flakier fish.
So yeah, it's.
It's yummy.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, or you also have a lemon?
I'm not sure, I don't.
Uh, it is a sponge cake squarecoated in chocolate and coconut.
So it's a perfect little sweetcelebration treat once you're
finished.
To me it's, it's giving likesomebody took a mound like candy
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bar and made a cake in it outof it like it sounds.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So yeah, I like.
I like that.
That does sound yummy when youdescribe it that way.
Do I have to eat Vegemite whenI'm out there?
I don't think I want to.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You have to try it.
It's part of the fun of doingworld travel.
You get to try all of the localfavorites to get those staple
items.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Okay, I will.
I will definitely give it a trywhile I'm out there, you know,
one of the things that I findfascinating is that, going into
different areas even of theUnited States, there's different
like sayings and phrases thatare more popular, and this is
going to be the case forAustralia.
So I wanted to explore that alittle bit with you and I wonder
if maybe we should kind of doit as a bit of a quiz.
(23:10):
I'm going to give you thephrase and then you tell me what
you think it means.
Does that sound fair?
Okay, we did plan this.
So she's like what?
Okay, if you have somebody outthere yelling at you, give it a
crack.
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'm going to go with.
Give it your best.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I mean, I think so.
Yeah, like I could see that,like a little bit of like a
cracking of the whip, you'regoing to get out there and
hustle.
Yeah, okay, okay, I got you.
Um, how about bonds a run?
Are we even speaking Englishanymore?
What does bonds mean?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, I'm going to go with bond as in like bonbons,
so like candy.
So maybe a sweet run would bemy interpretation.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I think that's fantastic.
Evidently it means a great run,so you had a great run.
So like that's what we endeavorto do every time we go out for
a run, yeah, yeah, okay.
Um, like when you go out foryour run with a friend, what
would you think that you wouldcall them?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
A running mate, a running, a running friend.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You're so close, yeah , running, so mateship I guess,
but kind of like instead ofrelationship or your friendship
it's your mateship, huh,interesting.
Okay, one more, one more, andthen I promise we'll move on.
Uh, this is crazy, I don't evenknow Like.
I'm looking at the answer andlooking at the thing and don't
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the phrase is flat out like alizard drinking.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I'm going to take that as sitting on the beaches,
relax, drinking with like acocktail right.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
It means going all out or running at your max
effort.
Is that true?
That doesn't make sense to me,See but again be your new
favorite phrase like a lizarddrinking.
Yeah, definitely, I think thisis going to be fun.
I'm looking forward to hearingmate quite frequently, and did
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Anya.
I'm definitely going to takethese as compliments.
Okay, let's get into a littlebit of like pop culture.
Ashley, what, what do you gotunderneath to get me jazzed for
this?
This particular Sydney run?
What should I be diving into?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Sydney run.
What should I be diving into?
Yeah, so there's some awesomemovies from this area.
You have Crocodile Dundee,finding Nemo which was a shock
to me Muriel's Wedding Australia, so lots of great movies there.
Some songs that are from thearea are down under, from men at
work, land down under from ludyum, and then I still call
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australia home from peter allennow something obviously that's
not movies or song related.
You know, expanded a little bit, is obviously everybody's
favorite crocodile hunter.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
That, sadly, is no longer with us, but his kiddo
continues to like keep it going.
Okay, yeah, that'll be fun.
I wonder if there'll be anyreferences.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, okay, something from my childhood that so kind
of lives on to this day.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Do you like his kiddo ?
Have you followed any of whathis kiddo's doing?
They look really similar.
Yeah, that's awesome I didn'tknow that you were kind of a
nature, kind of gal Makes sense,though it does.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It's always fun to see the little different animals
and stuff that isn't alwaysfrom here.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it and I'm also going
to say that I'm looking forwardto seeing all of you guys that
are going out there this year tojoin me and Sydney.
And there you have it.
This is everything that youneed to know about the Sydney
Marathon, the newest of theWorld Marathon majors.
But I want you guys to weigh inand let me know is it
officially a spring race or dowe call it summer because we're
(27:13):
going to be training in summer?
You guys, let us know what youthink.
I will say I do think it'sshaping up to be a big bucket
list race for runners worldwide.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Absolutely.
And don't forget, it's not justabout the race.
Sydney offers world-classsightseeing, incredible food and
a classic Aussie hospitality.
Whether you're aiming for apersonal best or soaking up the
vibes, this marathon is going tobe one to remember.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Awesome, and if you're thinking about running
Sydney or any of the majors, besure to join us at the Stride
Collective or Women of the WorldMarathon Majors on Facebook.
We've got training tips, travelhacks, of course, and plenty of
running banter, whether it's inAussie or in typical American
English.
Links on the links for both ofthese groups are going to be in
(27:59):
show notes.
Next up we're heading to Berlin, home of world records, fast
paces and some serious marathonmagic.
Until then, mates keep stridingtoward extraordinary.
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