April 11, 2025 • 29 mins
The TCS New York City Marathon stands as the crown jewel of marathon experiences, combining breathtaking urban scenery with unparalleled cultural immersion across all five boroughs. Coach Christine and travel expert Ashley of Mystical Dream Travel break down this iconic event from every angle - revealing why it's simultaneously the most coveted and logistically challenging marathon in the world.
From its humble beginnings in 1970 as a Central Park loop to today's massive five-borough celebration drawing over 2.5 million spectators, we explore what makes this race truly special. You'll discover the dramatic Verrazano Bridge start, the electric energy of Brooklyn that can make or break your race, and the notorious silence of the Queensborough Bridge that tests even the strongest mental game.
This comprehensive guide covers everything from strategic spectator locations to post-race recovery tips, including the "hidden ultra marathon" of getting around NYC on race day. We share insider secrets about securing your entry through various methods - from the challenging lottery system to charity fundraising, qualifying times, and even the virtual marathon option that guarantees next year's entry.
Whether you're dreaming of your first NYC Marathon or returning to conquer the five boroughs again, this episode delivers practical advice alongside inspiring stories from the race's rich history. Learn about iconic moments like Grete Waitz's nine victories and Shalane Flanagan's breakthrough American win that inspired a generation.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey friends, welcome back to Extraordinary Strides,
where we're going to lace up,we're going to lean in and
stride through the trulyextraordinary.
I'm Coach Christine and todayI'm joined by my absolute
favorite, the one and onlytravel expert and running friend
, ashley from Mystical DreamTravel.
Hello Ashley, Hi, how are you?
I'm fantastic.
(00:21):
I mean, we're going to talkabout big dreams and big,
audacious goals, and I thinkthat this race definitely tops
that list because we're going totalk about the most legendary,
however, logisticallychallenging and unspying races
in the world the TCS New Yorkcity marathon.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I am so excited to talk about this one.
This is definitely one of theones at the top of my list to
try to get into and we're goingto break down the history of the
race, the course breakdown andthe challenges that you might
face.
Race day logistics we got toknow how you get from your house
there into the start line,because that's important.
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The best spots for spectators.
And how to navigate the city.
How to get into the race,because this is, as we found out
, very, very difficult.
And the iconic moments and mustdo's for before and after this
race.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'm excited about it.
I will say and I've said itbefore, I'm going to say it
again, you guys are just goingto have to get used to me saying
this this was my first ultra,not because I ran more than
26.22 miles even though you'realways going to add in a little
bit extra, unless if you'rerunning the tangents perfectly,
which is kind of hard to do butbecause of the amount of miles
that I put in before and after.
(01:35):
I think at this point, to thisday, even after running an ultra
, I think that if I go into myGarmin history, this is still
the most miles I have logged inone specific day.
I think that if I go into myGarmin history, this is still
the most miles I have logged inone specific day.
It is a lot.
So we want to make sure thatyou guys are aware of that and
aware of how to still enjoy thisincredible race, because it
really is amazing.
Historically, though, I love andI have watched so many
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documentaries about it becauseit's just such a fantastic race.
It started September 13th 1970.
Such a fantastic race.
It started September 13th 1970.
The first NYC marathon reallywasn't NYC because it wasn't a
five borough tour like it is now.
It was just 127 runners doingloops around central park.
I can't even imagine that.
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But there is no Verrazano, noroaring crowds, just pure
running grit.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That that is very challenging.
I don't know if I could uh dothat many loops around central
park.
You know, first time is a greatsites to see and all the hype
is there, but I don't know aboutthat.
And in that year only 55 peoplefinished that very first race.
It wasn't until 1976, thebicentennial year, that the
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course expanded into all fiveboroughs.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I do love this, though, because what it does
with the five borough course notonly is it a hit, I mean, it's
become again legendary.
It's one of the world's mostprestigious marathons, and what
I love specifically about thisrace is that it gives you the
feeling of truly a worldmarathon, major like no other
race can, and yes, I'm gonna saythat right here and now no
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other race feels thisencompassing of cultures and
different dynamics within those26 miles, like this specific New
York City marathon does.
So I'm a little bit of a dork.
You guys know that I have a fewfacts that I want us to chat
about, so I'm going to let youlead with a little bit of these
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five facts and five facts forthe five bros, right?
So what would you say issomething that you find
interesting on this facts list,my friend, would you?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
say is something that you find interesting on this
fax list, my friend.
So I find it very interestingthat that inaugural race was
also held on a very tight budget.
The entire event cost $1,000.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I think that's how much it costs today.
I don't even know that thatwould cover.
That can't even possibly covertheir safety pins that they hand
out with bibs at this point,right Like there's nothing on
their items.
That would be a thousand.
I think that for the most partlike we would be excited if we
were running for charity for NewYork city and we only had to
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raise a thousand dollars, soit's definitely could change
quite a bit.
What I think is super cool isthat Greek Weights of Norway won
nine New York City Marathontitles between 78 and 88.
She's absolutely one of themost decorated athletes in New
York City Marathon history.
She's also gone on to win twoLondon Marathon titles and the
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Marathon World Championships in83.
She is truly one of the mostdecorated athletes of all time.
But for all us Disney folks andour run Disney folks, super
cool that you can get your photowith her at um well, not with
her, but her Brown statue overin Norway and Epcot.
Have you actually checked herout over there?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's one thing I haven't now.
That's on my list for my nexttrip.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, we're going to have to make that happen.
We'll have to post a photo onsocials trip.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, we're going to have to make that happen.
We'll have to post a photo onsocials, absolutely.
And how about the race route?
So this course has changed alot from its central park
beginnings, clearly, um, but itstill ends in central park.
But it now sets out from StatenIsland before traversing all
five New York City boroughs, butnow it boasts over 2.5 million
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spectators to cheer on therunners on Marathon Day.
That's a lot of cheer support,but I really like that.
It's no longer that loop andyou get a little tour of the
city, because it is a verybeautiful city.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It absolutely is.
The boroughs all have suchdifferent flavor and vibes.
It's just so exciting to seeall that aspects of it.
And of course, the bridges, butwe'll talk about those as well.
I think it's pretty cool thatin Brooklyn, no sleep till
Brooklyn.
Of course, the marching bandfrom Bishop Laughlin High School
plays the Rocky theme songGonna Fly, now all day long the
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entire time, like just on repeat, to motivate the runners.
That continue until everysingle runner has passed through
.
That's incredible.
That's dedication for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And I totally get down to that because I mean,
most of us know there's a lot ofmusicians that end up in the
running world and we like to dothe cadence to the bit more
about the specific race thatpeople want to know, and it is
that the founder and I'm goingto give lots of kudos, and there
is some really greatdocumentaries on him.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
The founder of the new york city marathon was from
pennsylvania.
Fred laboe fled from romaniawith his jewish family after
surviving the nazi occupation ofthe country.
Laboe spent time inczechoslovakia, the netherlands
and ireland before finally intothe United States, and now you
can get a photo with the statueof Fred or you can run one of
the races named after him butfound in Central Park.
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What I also love about Fred andthe New York Roadrunners is
that they are very inclusive,like from the very beginning of
the race.
They want to be more inclusive,a representative of what New
York City feels like differentcultures and heritages all
coming together for one commongoal.
So I'm going to quit fangirlingnow so we can go into some of
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the course records.
Ashley, would you try to PR NewYork?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Oh see, I don't know that I could, because I'd be so
soaked up in all the differentboroughs and just the city
skyline.
I think it's one of my mostfavorite skylines out there.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean absolutely, and I want to talk about that
too.
I know we're going to talk alittle bit about okay, let's,
let's talk about it now.
I definitely want to talk aboutthe PRS, of the course, but I
want to ask you, as you'retalking about the skyline one of
the things that I think makesthis race so interesting is the
fact that it's got multiple waysto get to the start, and one of
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the ways is the ferry, whereyou could actually go see the
skyline as you're on your way tothe start.
Is that something that calls toyou, or do you think that you
would rather make it much easierand just go straight through
with one of the Midtown buses?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
See, I'd probably do the ferry.
It's a unique way to get tothis start line.
I am team ferry all the way myfriend it is.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I know that, logistically, people get a
little freaked out because withthe ferry, you do have to now
you have to choose a specifictime.
You also still have to ridebuses.
When you get to the other side,you have to jump on a bus as
well, so it can feel like you'rebasically using plane, trains
and automobiles just to get toyour start line.
Um, I think that feels very NewYork, though, so I I love it.
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So, before we get into thecourse, I'm going to get into a
little bit of some of the courserecords.
Which is men's course record isJeffrey Mutai 205, 06 in 2011.
We're not going to hear blazingfast times like some of the
other courses, but these arestill very, very fast times.
Women's course record MargaretOkoya, from 222.31 is her finish
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time at 2003.
We have the men's wheelchairrecord Marcel Hug.
We've heard him before he takes.
He's the goat.
He's 129.22 is his finish timein 2022.
And then the wheelchair recordheld by Tatiana McFadden in 2015
at 143.04.
So, while it's not a PR race,it still proves that these
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elites are.
They're trained and ready forbusiness.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, and I love how long it's been since we've seen
some, so maybe we'll see some inthe coming years.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, I hope the elites take like two extra
seconds.
I know they've got prize moneyand they have sponsorship deals,
but I hope that they still takelike two extra seconds to kind
of look around and soak it allin there because it is such an
incredible race.
So let's get right to it.
Tell me all about the course,my friend.
Let's talk about that mile bymile breakdown.
How about you kick it off withStaten Island?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Absolutely so.
The race does start in StatenIsland, one of the most dramatic
starts in marathoning.
There's helicopters overhead,the anthem playing and, of
course, a sea of runners allready to take on the race.
Now, this is definitelysomething that I think gets into
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people's heads.
There is a huge uphill start,followed by a downhill into
Brooklyn.
Now, this is definitelysomething you want to keep in
mind.
Your adrenaline will be skyhigh, but don't want to burn out
on that first uphill justbecause you know you have that
downhill.
So take it all in, take thatdeep breath and let's go to
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Staten Island.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So the Verrazano was the reason why I signed up for
New York City.
Like I saw an image of a bunchof runners running over
Verrazano.
It was an aerial image and Iwas like I have to have that in
my life.
This has been a common themefor me.
It's also why I did Ragnars andthe Florida Keys.
I love bridges and just thatimagery is so beautiful.
I will say that one of the bigthings that we approach with
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coming into New York City is areyou actually going to be able
to run on the top side of theVerrazano, or if you're going to
run underneath, where the carsgenerally go, side of the
Verrazano, or if you're going torun underneath, where the cars
generally go, there's anotherset of cars that go through.
It is still a fantasticexperience, regardless of
whatever you're ended up at,because that will be chosen for
you.
If it's a huge deal and youabsolutely want to run on top
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side of Verrazano bridge, youcan drop back a wave to do so.
So that is something to takeinto consideration.
I do want to debunk a littlebit of a myth that we have heard
where that if you run on thebottom side of Verrazano that
you're going to have urine onyou because some of the guys
decide to use the potty on thebridge top side.
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We know that for a fact, thatit's not going to seep through
by any stretch of imagination,so that is not a concern.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Now I'm curious which side did you run on?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I pulled back a wave so that I could run topside.
It was very important for me.
I mean, again, I signed up justbecause I had seen this aerial
image, so I definitely wanted torun topside.
I also had.
I was starting a little bitahead of the girls that I had
trained with, so I dropped backso we could all run together at
least through the first half ofthe race.
Um, so it was all the wayaround.
(12:29):
There was multiple reasons forme to pull back and I feel like
it made it like solidified, suchan incredible experience for me
.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Absolutely, and there's there's no bad view or
time for the New York marathon.
And that takes us to the nextstep.
So miles 13.
We're jumping right to the halfmarathon point.
Miles 3 through 13 is the mostelectric part of the race.
4th Avenue and Bedford Avenueare packed with spectators and
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then you get to hit the ParkSlope, williamsburg, greenpoint,
each neighborhood bringing aunique energy to that race.
That's where you enter thelovely Brooklyn New York area.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, absolutely.
This is the most incrediblepart of the race.
I think I must have high-fived482,000 kiddos that were
cheering during that entire 10mile range.
So that is again one of thosethings where you may not even
notice how much energy you'reexpending.
You may even forget to fuel.
So be very mindful of thoseaspects, because once you go
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into Queens and theQueensborough bridge you're
getting into a sticky part ofthe marathon anyway.
Right, like, once we get pastthat half, you get a little
sticky.
Then you're actually going togo into the bridge, the
Queensborough Bridge, and it'squiet there.
It's like the antithesis of allof the energy that you just
heard.
So you have to really prepareyourself to have that mental
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fortitude to dig a little deeper, knowing that you're going to
be rewarded for going throughthat bridge on the other side.
So what can we expect on theother side?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's Manhattan's first Avenue.
That is where we are headed.
So as soon as you leave that uhbridge they're crowds again.
So they are just on the otherside.
You just got to get over thatlittle bit of a hump of
quietness, but this stretch isflat and straight, but make sure
you don't go too fast.
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That is something that willdefinitely get runners as they
come back into those crowdsagain.
But they want to hit the groundrunning with all of that energy
.
But make sure you aren'tdraining your energy because we
still have some miles to go.
And up next is the Bronx.
I think this is such a classicarea of New York, so we do a
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quick loop through the boogiedown Bronx.
The Madison Avenue bridge takesyou back into Manhattan,
towards that last couple ofmiles.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm glad that we're calling out that the Bronx is
such a quick little like visit,like it is.
You're only there for like amile, a mile and a half Um,
still iconic, still fantastic.
The neighborhood still comesout to really support, but
absolutely feels like it's overin a flash before you're already
coming back into Manhattan withHarlem and Central Park.
Now this is where, again, wehave another point in this race
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where it may feel a littletougher because the last four
miles are rolling hills.
So you need to keep that inmind.
Fifth Avenue is a long inclinewhich can feel brutal at this
stage.
We know that Verrazano is thehighest peak of this entire
elevation course, but it feelsbecause it's so early on, you
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don't even feel those.
These, my friends, you tend tofeel a little bit more.
So it's very important todefinitely have those hill
repeats and learn how toincorporate training on those
fatigue legs, because as youturn into central park, your
legs may be maybe barking at youa little bit, but the crowd is
still there supporting you,ready for you to take home your
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big shiny metal.
Um, are you more excited aboutyour metal or the superhero Cape
that they give away at the endfor individuals?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Definitely the cape.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
What are you doing with your cape?
Are you going to keep it as acape, like?
Are you going to like peopleare repurposing it now, like as
vests and so on?
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I haven't thought that through that's somebody had
actually taken um, I had seenthey made like a jacket out of
one of them.
Yeah, that was such a cool idea.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I love that idea Because, honestly, the cape that
I have from New York City issomething I will never part with
, but I also never use it.
It's like I want to use it fora throwaway layer, so I think
that we should look into how toget that repurposed.
Okay, we've already touched onthe fact that this race feels
daunting to a lot of individualsbecause of logistics, so let's
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get into those logistics.
Ashley, what should we thinkabout in terms of that race
morning logistical puzzle Like,for I think that most people
will probably?
If you get easily overwhelmed,I think that the official race
buses from midtown aredefinitely something you should
consider.
While I will always be teamfairy, if you feel like you want
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streamlined, those race busesare definitely the best way to
be streamlined absolutely,because we don't want to
recommend private drop-offs.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Um, if anybody has ever visited New York City, even
on a normal day, it is chaoscity.
I for one will will vouch.
I visited when I was younger.
And if you don't walk when thatcrosswalk sign says walk, you
are getting run over as apedestrian.
Yeah, absolutely.
I don't want to add any morestress in your morning by trying
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to get to that start line bydriving.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You've already seen because we've traveled together
and you've seen that I tend towalk.
I call it a little bit of a NewYork hustle.
I walk a little bit faster andI can tend to usually use my
phone at the same time.
I'll only trip a few times whenI do that.
I don't dare to do that in NewYork City.
You got to be aware of yoursurroundings there.
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So when it comes to where tostay at New York City, I think
it really comes down to personalpreference.
But I will always recommend forNew York City if you are really
panicking about that start ismaybe even considering a split
arrangement where you stay atStaten Island the night before
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the race and have your peoplewho love you dearly pack up
while you're running this raceand maybe meet you somewhere in
the city close to the finishline or go ahead and make your
reservations to stay inManhattan.
I would not necessarily suggesta lot of the other boroughs.
I know people love Brooklyn orthey may love even to like keep
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costs low and go across thetunnel and stay in New Jersey,
but those can actually add a lotof additional stress and maybe
even additional expenses thatyou don't take into
consideration Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And again, it's the city that, uh, is always moving
and grooving, so don't want toadd on any extra stress.
Um, on the morning of now, wedid already talk about how to
get to the race.
Let's go back after the race.
So, when you are leaving, afteryou get that shiny new metal,
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take all of your pictures.
You can either do the subway,which is your best bet, follow
the crowds down into the tunnels, a taxi or an Uber, but expect
some crazy surge pricing because, as we know, they can get
expensive the more people thattry to get rides.
Or you can just walk if you'revery close to that finish line.
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Um, what's better than shakingout your legs with a little walk
after you've done all of thehard work, uh, to just keep
those legs moving and grooving?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So something that I heard early on when I was
researching New York City and apodcast and, you know, like BC
times because it was such a longtime ago was to utilize the New
York sports club, get it by aday pass, leave something in the
locker the day before possiblythere, and when you're done with
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your finish at New York city isgo ahead and take a shower at
this sports club that's closestto the finish line.
Change and then just like findsome place to eat locally,
because for the most part,unless if you are super close to
that finish line, it's going tobe super hard to move around,
be it subway or taxis or Ubers.
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So I just did that and haddinner, and I think it was
pretty late in the evening whenwe were done with our
celebration, but still it wasjust the best way of like
minimizing that stress of tryingto get back to my hotel,
knowing that like the city waspretty gridlocked at that point.
Still, Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And there's so many people in New York City and you
still have those tall buildings.
You want to make sure that youalways have a meeting plan for
these days, especially if youhave spectators coming up.
That's another kind of knownfact for that race.
Um, make sure you have a planto meet up with your people at
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least at the end of the race, ifyou can't catch them during or
pre race.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Now I think you're considering when you do get into
New York city and we were goingto talk about that as well as
how to get in and how hard it isto get in and all that jazz but
you're considering having amajority of your family coming
to the finish line.
I think you're thinking yourdad's going to come, cole's
definitely going to be there.
Where are you suggesting theyset up for those spectator spots
so that others can maybe followsuit?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So I think there's a couple different places that I'm
kind of eyeing up.
Um is Brooklyn, so big crowds,lots of space, a lot of energy.
That covers like miles threethrough eight.
So pretty much earlier in therace, um, they could go like mid
race for first Avenue and thatis super exciting, but it's a
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little more busy packed area, um.
So definitely on the top of thelist, but maybe a little bit
further down um, or there'scentral park for that finish.
Um, I definitely love a goodfinish line area Um.
That's when I start to drainand really feel the uh, rolling
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Hills as the back half of thismarathon.
So I think probably centralpark.
But they need to make sure theyare not using um again the
first avenue cross.
You cannot get across thereduring the race.
You can't expect to hop allaround the city easily like some
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of the other ones.
So pick two, maybe three spotsIf you're willing to risk, maybe
one of those kind of prioritizein one, two, three, what are
the most important for you asthe runner and make sure you're
communicating that with yourspectators so they know what to
expect as well during that day,what you're expecting to see
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them If you want to catch themat a certain spot.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Love this.
This is such really good,valuable advice.
I wish that I would have hadthis I don't know a decade ago,
because that was a big issuethat I ran into with my
spectators.
So this really, really solidinformation here, my friends.
Okay, let's talk about how toget in, how to get this golden
ticket, because it really doesfeel impossible.
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Um, I know that you attemptedthrough the lottery.
How do you feel about it aftertrying the lottery?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
hey, this is my second year for the main lottery
.
Now that's something that's alittle unique with this race, is
they also in previous years?
Um, hopefully they have it, forthis is a lottery for a virtual
option as well.
Um, so I have tried for bothin-person and the virtual
options and have not secured myticket just yet.
(24:32):
Um, the virtual lottery is yourun it virtually on the same day
as the New York city marathon,um, so you have a 24 hour window
to get your miles in, howeverlong it takes you, but it has to
be on that day, does have to belogged in Strava, and then you
get that golden ticket for thefollowing years in person
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marathon.
I love, I love that they give adifferent option because they
know that it's very, very, verytough to get in this race.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Absolutely.
I mean, without a doubt.
So the nine in one program forall the local folks, even though
I have a girlfriend who doesthis particular way of doing it,
even though she lives inFlorida, where she'll go up and
run the nine New York road racesand then volunteer so that she
can get her magic lottery goldenticket.
But again, as we've discussed abazillion times, we're going to
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discuss it here again as well.
We cannot stress this enough Ifthis is something you want to
make happen, like any of themajors, you're going to have to
have creativity, You're going tohave to have patience, a little
dash and sprinkle of good luckand a whole lot of just
determination to not give up,because, more than ever, we're
continuing to see lots of littlefun ways of getting in.
(25:45):
I think I recently saw somebodygot their New York City golden
ticket through like a Stravacompetition that they had
entered.
So there's just there'sdifferent ways to just stay in
the loop.
Um, so there's just there'sdifferent ways to just stay in
the loop.
You might even want to do NewYork city marathon.
Um, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Registration as a Google alert, so that when
things pop up, you can see thatmarathon entry yeah, and
definitely take a look at theNew York road runners, um pages.
I know they have an awesomeorganization, um organization
and they're always putting outdifferent ways to get into this
race and even if they have a lotof other fun races that they
have throughout the year thatare again still breaking new
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barriers and you can see a lotnew things.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yes, absolutely.
So.
Before we bring this to a close, we're going to talk about some
of those legendary moments thatwe've already touched on a
little bit Greet weights winningnine times, but Meb breaking
the US drought and winning in2009.
And we're all every singlerunner woman in the world is
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going to remember ShaileneFlanagan's epic win.
I mean, it was actually myfavorite Halloween costume that
entire year of 2017, wherelittle girls were getting
dressed up as Shailene with thatepic, epic win that she had
that year.
So there's so much to do andsee in New York City we can't
even possibly get into it all,except that this is a race that
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you're definitely going to wantto do, and we welcome you to
join us with the stridecollective or women, of world
marathon majors to continuegetting that community support.
Ashley, I'm going to ask you,though what do you think you are
most excited to do in New Yorkcity before, after, your
marathon?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
your marathon.
Oh, I, I'm.
I'm having on my list to govisit um the hotel for home
alone.
Oh, really such.
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Yes, so I love New York city.
I, I, definitely.
I mean you have to go see thestatue of Liberty.
I have done that before and itis really a sight to see.
It is no longer there, but FAOSchwartz they used to have toy
soldiers that stood outside,like human toy soldiers that
stood outside, and it was such amemorable experience for me.
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You could say Rockefellercenter.
There's so much to do in NewYork city.
Like I'm, I'm so excited to godo it again because it just
never gets old.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, with that said, friends, we want to hear from
you what you're excited to seeor undo at New York city and, if
you've got gained your goldenticket to run the race, we want
to cheer you on and support youon your way there.
So, without a shadow of a doubt, we look forward to continuing
to cheer you along your journey,as you race towards your stars.
Until next time, keep stridingtoward the extraordinary.
Hey friends, welcome back to Extraordinary Strides,
where we're going to lace up,we're going to lean in and
stride through the trulyextraordinary.
I'm Coach Christine and todayI'm joined by my absolute
favorite, the one and onlytravel expert and running friend
, ashley from Mystical DreamTravel.
Hello Ashley, Hi, how are you?
I'm fantastic.
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I mean, we're going to talkabout big dreams and big,
audacious goals, and I thinkthat this race definitely tops
that list because we're going totalk about the most legendary,
however, logisticallychallenging and unspying races
in the world the TCS New Yorkcity marathon.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I am so excited to talk about this one.
This is definitely one of theones at the top of my list to
try to get into and we're goingto break down the history of the
race, the course breakdown andthe challenges that you might
face.
Race day logistics we got toknow how you get from your house
there into the start line,because that's important.
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The best spots for spectators.
And how to navigate the city.
How to get into the race,because this is, as we found out
, very, very difficult.
And the iconic moments and mustdo's for before and after this
race.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'm excited about it.
I will say and I've said itbefore, I'm going to say it
again, you guys are just goingto have to get used to me saying
this this was my first ultra,not because I ran more than
26.22 miles even though you'realways going to add in a little
bit extra, unless if you'rerunning the tangents perfectly,
which is kind of hard to do butbecause of the amount of miles
that I put in before and after.
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I think at this point, to thisday, even after running an ultra
, I think that if I go into myGarmin history, this is still
the most miles I have logged inone specific day.
I think that if I go into myGarmin history, this is still
the most miles I have logged inone specific day.
It is a lot.
So we want to make sure thatyou guys are aware of that and
aware of how to still enjoy thisincredible race, because it
really is amazing.
Historically, though, I love andI have watched so many
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documentaries about it becauseit's just such a fantastic race.
It started September 13th 1970.
Such a fantastic race.
It started September 13th 1970.
The first NYC marathon reallywasn't NYC because it wasn't a
five borough tour like it is now.
It was just 127 runners doingloops around central park.
I can't even imagine that.
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But there is no Verrazano, noroaring crowds, just pure
running grit.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That that is very challenging.
I don't know if I could uh dothat many loops around central
park.
You know, first time is a greatsites to see and all the hype
is there, but I don't know aboutthat.
And in that year only 55 peoplefinished that very first race.
It wasn't until 1976, thebicentennial year, that the
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course expanded into all fiveboroughs.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I do love this, though, because what it does
with the five borough course notonly is it a hit, I mean, it's
become again legendary.
It's one of the world's mostprestigious marathons, and what
I love specifically about thisrace is that it gives you the
feeling of truly a worldmarathon, major like no other
race can, and yes, I'm gonna saythat right here and now no
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other race feels thisencompassing of cultures and
different dynamics within those26 miles, like this specific New
York City marathon does.
So I'm a little bit of a dork.
You guys know that I have a fewfacts that I want us to chat
about, so I'm going to let youlead with a little bit of these
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five facts and five facts forthe five bros, right?
So what would you say issomething that you find
interesting on this facts list,my friend, would you?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
say is something that you find interesting on this
fax list, my friend.
So I find it very interestingthat that inaugural race was
also held on a very tight budget.
The entire event cost $1,000.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I think that's how much it costs today.
I don't even know that thatwould cover.
That can't even possibly covertheir safety pins that they hand
out with bibs at this point,right Like there's nothing on
their items.
That would be a thousand.
I think that for the most partlike we would be excited if we
were running for charity for NewYork city and we only had to
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raise a thousand dollars, soit's definitely could change
quite a bit.
What I think is super cool isthat Greek Weights of Norway won
nine New York City Marathontitles between 78 and 88.
She's absolutely one of themost decorated athletes in New
York City Marathon history.
She's also gone on to win twoLondon Marathon titles and the
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Marathon World Championships in83.
She is truly one of the mostdecorated athletes of all time.
But for all us Disney folks andour run Disney folks, super
cool that you can get your photowith her at um well, not with
her, but her Brown statue overin Norway and Epcot.
Have you actually checked herout over there?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's one thing I haven't now.
That's on my list for my nexttrip.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, we're going to have to make that happen.
We'll have to post a photo onsocials trip.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, we're going to have to make that happen.
We'll have to post a photo onsocials, absolutely.
And how about the race route?
So this course has changed alot from its central park
beginnings, clearly, um, but itstill ends in central park.
But it now sets out from StatenIsland before traversing all
five New York City boroughs, butnow it boasts over 2.5 million
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spectators to cheer on therunners on Marathon Day.
That's a lot of cheer support,but I really like that.
It's no longer that loop andyou get a little tour of the
city, because it is a verybeautiful city.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It absolutely is.
The boroughs all have suchdifferent flavor and vibes.
It's just so exciting to seeall that aspects of it.
And of course, the bridges, butwe'll talk about those as well.
I think it's pretty cool thatin Brooklyn, no sleep till
Brooklyn.
Of course, the marching bandfrom Bishop Laughlin High School
plays the Rocky theme songGonna Fly, now all day long the
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entire time, like just on repeat, to motivate the runners.
That continue until everysingle runner has passed through
.
That's incredible.
That's dedication for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And I totally get down to that because I mean,
most of us know there's a lot ofmusicians that end up in the
running world and we like to dothe cadence to the bit more
about the specific race thatpeople want to know, and it is
that the founder and I'm goingto give lots of kudos, and there
is some really greatdocumentaries on him.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
The founder of the new york city marathon was from
pennsylvania.
Fred laboe fled from romaniawith his jewish family after
surviving the nazi occupation ofthe country.
Laboe spent time inczechoslovakia, the netherlands
and ireland before finally intothe United States, and now you
can get a photo with the statueof Fred or you can run one of
the races named after him butfound in Central Park.
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What I also love about Fred andthe New York Roadrunners is
that they are very inclusive,like from the very beginning of
the race.
They want to be more inclusive,a representative of what New
York City feels like differentcultures and heritages all
coming together for one commongoal.
So I'm going to quit fangirlingnow so we can go into some of
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the course records.
Ashley, would you try to PR NewYork?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Oh see, I don't know that I could, because I'd be so
soaked up in all the differentboroughs and just the city
skyline.
I think it's one of my mostfavorite skylines out there.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I mean absolutely, and I want to talk about that
too.
I know we're going to talk alittle bit about okay, let's,
let's talk about it now.
I definitely want to talk aboutthe PRS, of the course, but I
want to ask you, as you'retalking about the skyline one of
the things that I think makesthis race so interesting is the
fact that it's got multiple waysto get to the start, and one of
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the ways is the ferry, whereyou could actually go see the
skyline as you're on your way tothe start.
Is that something that calls toyou, or do you think that you
would rather make it much easierand just go straight through
with one of the Midtown buses?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
See, I'd probably do the ferry.
It's a unique way to get tothis start line.
I am team ferry all the way myfriend it is.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I know that, logistically, people get a
little freaked out because withthe ferry, you do have to now
you have to choose a specifictime.
You also still have to ridebuses.
When you get to the other side,you have to jump on a bus as
well, so it can feel like you'rebasically using plane, trains
and automobiles just to get toyour start line.
Um, I think that feels very NewYork, though, so I I love it.
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So, before we get into thecourse, I'm going to get into a
little bit of some of the courserecords.
Which is men's course record isJeffrey Mutai 205, 06 in 2011.
We're not going to hear blazingfast times like some of the
other courses, but these arestill very, very fast times.
Women's course record MargaretOkoya, from 222.31 is her finish
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time at 2003.
We have the men's wheelchairrecord Marcel Hug.
We've heard him before he takes.
He's the goat.
He's 129.22 is his finish timein 2022.
And then the wheelchair recordheld by Tatiana McFadden in 2015
at 143.04.
So, while it's not a PR race,it still proves that these
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elites are.
They're trained and ready forbusiness.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, and I love how long it's been since we've seen
some, so maybe we'll see some inthe coming years.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, I hope the elites take like two extra
seconds.
I know they've got prize moneyand they have sponsorship deals,
but I hope that they still takelike two extra seconds to kind
of look around and soak it allin there because it is such an
incredible race.
So let's get right to it.
Tell me all about the course,my friend.
Let's talk about that mile bymile breakdown.
How about you kick it off withStaten Island?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Absolutely so.
The race does start in StatenIsland, one of the most dramatic
starts in marathoning.
There's helicopters overhead,the anthem playing and, of
course, a sea of runners allready to take on the race.
Now, this is definitelysomething that I think gets into
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people's heads.
There is a huge uphill start,followed by a downhill into
Brooklyn.
Now, this is definitelysomething you want to keep in
mind.
Your adrenaline will be skyhigh, but don't want to burn out
on that first uphill justbecause you know you have that
downhill.
So take it all in, take thatdeep breath and let's go to
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Staten Island.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So the Verrazano was the reason why I signed up for
New York City.
Like I saw an image of a bunchof runners running over
Verrazano.
It was an aerial image and Iwas like I have to have that in
my life.
This has been a common themefor me.
It's also why I did Ragnars andthe Florida Keys.
I love bridges and just thatimagery is so beautiful.
I will say that one of the bigthings that we approach with
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coming into New York City is areyou actually going to be able
to run on the top side of theVerrazano, or if you're going to
run underneath, where the carsgenerally go, side of the
Verrazano, or if you're going torun underneath, where the cars
generally go, there's anotherset of cars that go through.
It is still a fantasticexperience, regardless of
whatever you're ended up at,because that will be chosen for
you.
If it's a huge deal and youabsolutely want to run on top
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side of Verrazano bridge, youcan drop back a wave to do so.
So that is something to takeinto consideration.
I do want to debunk a littlebit of a myth that we have heard
where that if you run on thebottom side of Verrazano that
you're going to have urine onyou because some of the guys
decide to use the potty on thebridge top side.
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We know that for a fact, thatit's not going to seep through
by any stretch of imagination,so that is not a concern.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Now I'm curious which side did you run on?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I pulled back a wave so that I could run topside.
It was very important for me.
I mean, again, I signed up justbecause I had seen this aerial
image, so I definitely wanted torun topside.
I also had.
I was starting a little bitahead of the girls that I had
trained with, so I dropped backso we could all run together at
least through the first half ofthe race.
Um, so it was all the wayaround.
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There was multiple reasons forme to pull back and I feel like
it made it like solidified, suchan incredible experience for me
.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Absolutely, and there's there's no bad view or
time for the New York marathon.
And that takes us to the nextstep.
So miles 13.
We're jumping right to the halfmarathon point.
Miles 3 through 13 is the mostelectric part of the race.
4th Avenue and Bedford Avenueare packed with spectators and
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then you get to hit the ParkSlope, williamsburg, greenpoint,
each neighborhood bringing aunique energy to that race.
That's where you enter thelovely Brooklyn New York area.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, absolutely.
This is the most incrediblepart of the race.
I think I must have high-fived482,000 kiddos that were
cheering during that entire 10mile range.
So that is again one of thosethings where you may not even
notice how much energy you'reexpending.
You may even forget to fuel.
So be very mindful of thoseaspects, because once you go
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into Queens and theQueensborough bridge you're
getting into a sticky part ofthe marathon anyway.
Right, like, once we get pastthat half, you get a little
sticky.
Then you're actually going togo into the bridge, the
Queensborough Bridge, and it'squiet there.
It's like the antithesis of allof the energy that you just
heard.
So you have to really prepareyourself to have that mental
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fortitude to dig a little deeper, knowing that you're going to
be rewarded for going throughthat bridge on the other side.
So what can we expect on theother side?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's Manhattan's first Avenue.
That is where we are headed.
So as soon as you leave that uhbridge they're crowds again.
So they are just on the otherside.
You just got to get over thatlittle bit of a hump of
quietness, but this stretch isflat and straight, but make sure
you don't go too fast.
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That is something that willdefinitely get runners as they
come back into those crowdsagain.
But they want to hit the groundrunning with all of that energy
.
But make sure you aren'tdraining your energy because we
still have some miles to go.
And up next is the Bronx.
I think this is such a classicarea of New York, so we do a
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quick loop through the boogiedown Bronx.
The Madison Avenue bridge takesyou back into Manhattan,
towards that last couple ofmiles.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm glad that we're calling out that the Bronx is
such a quick little like visit,like it is.
You're only there for like amile, a mile and a half Um,
still iconic, still fantastic.
The neighborhood still comesout to really support, but
absolutely feels like it's overin a flash before you're already
coming back into Manhattan withHarlem and Central Park.
Now this is where, again, wehave another point in this race
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where it may feel a littletougher because the last four
miles are rolling hills.
So you need to keep that inmind.
Fifth Avenue is a long inclinewhich can feel brutal at this
stage.
We know that Verrazano is thehighest peak of this entire
elevation course, but it feelsbecause it's so early on, you
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don't even feel those.
These, my friends, you tend tofeel a little bit more.
So it's very important todefinitely have those hill
repeats and learn how toincorporate training on those
fatigue legs, because as youturn into central park, your
legs may be maybe barking at youa little bit, but the crowd is
still there supporting you,ready for you to take home your
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big shiny metal.
Um, are you more excited aboutyour metal or the superhero Cape
that they give away at the endfor individuals?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Definitely the cape.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
What are you doing with your cape?
Are you going to keep it as acape, like?
Are you going to like peopleare repurposing it now, like as
vests and so on?
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I haven't thought that through that's somebody had
actually taken um, I had seenthey made like a jacket out of
one of them.
Yeah, that was such a cool idea.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I love that idea Because, honestly, the cape that
I have from New York City issomething I will never part with
, but I also never use it.
It's like I want to use it fora throwaway layer, so I think
that we should look into how toget that repurposed.
Okay, we've already touched onthe fact that this race feels
daunting to a lot of individualsbecause of logistics, so let's
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get into those logistics.
Ashley, what should we thinkabout in terms of that race
morning logistical puzzle Like,for I think that most people
will probably?
If you get easily overwhelmed,I think that the official race
buses from midtown aredefinitely something you should
consider.
While I will always be teamfairy, if you feel like you want
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streamlined, those race busesare definitely the best way to
be streamlined absolutely,because we don't want to
recommend private drop-offs.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Um, if anybody has ever visited New York City, even
on a normal day, it is chaoscity.
I for one will will vouch.
I visited when I was younger.
And if you don't walk when thatcrosswalk sign says walk, you
are getting run over as apedestrian.
Yeah, absolutely.
I don't want to add any morestress in your morning by trying
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to get to that start line bydriving.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
You've already seen because we've traveled together
and you've seen that I tend towalk.
I call it a little bit of a NewYork hustle.
I walk a little bit faster andI can tend to usually use my
phone at the same time.
I'll only trip a few times whenI do that.
I don't dare to do that in NewYork City.
You got to be aware of yoursurroundings there.
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So when it comes to where tostay at New York City, I think
it really comes down to personalpreference.
But I will always recommend forNew York City if you are really
panicking about that start ismaybe even considering a split
arrangement where you stay atStaten Island the night before
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the race and have your peoplewho love you dearly pack up
while you're running this raceand maybe meet you somewhere in
the city close to the finishline or go ahead and make your
reservations to stay inManhattan.
I would not necessarily suggesta lot of the other boroughs.
I know people love Brooklyn orthey may love even to like keep
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costs low and go across thetunnel and stay in New Jersey,
but those can actually add a lotof additional stress and maybe
even additional expenses thatyou don't take into
consideration Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And again, it's the city that, uh, is always moving
and grooving, so don't want toadd on any extra stress.
Um, on the morning of now, wedid already talk about how to
get to the race.
Let's go back after the race.
So, when you are leaving, afteryou get that shiny new metal,
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take all of your pictures.
You can either do the subway,which is your best bet, follow
the crowds down into the tunnels, a taxi or an Uber, but expect
some crazy surge pricing because, as we know, they can get
expensive the more people thattry to get rides.
Or you can just walk if you'revery close to that finish line.
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Um, what's better than shakingout your legs with a little walk
after you've done all of thehard work, uh, to just keep
those legs moving and grooving?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So something that I heard early on when I was
researching New York City and apodcast and, you know, like BC
times because it was such a longtime ago was to utilize the New
York sports club, get it by aday pass, leave something in the
locker the day before possiblythere, and when you're done with
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your finish at New York city isgo ahead and take a shower at
this sports club that's closestto the finish line.
Change and then just like findsome place to eat locally,
because for the most part,unless if you are super close to
that finish line, it's going tobe super hard to move around,
be it subway or taxis or Ubers.
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So I just did that and haddinner, and I think it was
pretty late in the evening whenwe were done with our
celebration, but still it wasjust the best way of like
minimizing that stress of tryingto get back to my hotel,
knowing that like the city waspretty gridlocked at that point.
Still, Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And there's so many people in New York City and you
still have those tall buildings.
You want to make sure that youalways have a meeting plan for
these days, especially if youhave spectators coming up.
That's another kind of knownfact for that race.
Um, make sure you have a planto meet up with your people at
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least at the end of the race, ifyou can't catch them during or
pre race.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Now I think you're considering when you do get into
New York city and we were goingto talk about that as well as
how to get in and how hard it isto get in and all that jazz but
you're considering having amajority of your family coming
to the finish line.
I think you're thinking yourdad's going to come, cole's
definitely going to be there.
Where are you suggesting theyset up for those spectator spots
so that others can maybe followsuit?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So I think there's a couple different places that I'm
kind of eyeing up.
Um is Brooklyn, so big crowds,lots of space, a lot of energy.
That covers like miles threethrough eight.
So pretty much earlier in therace, um, they could go like mid
race for first Avenue and thatis super exciting, but it's a
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little more busy packed area, um.
So definitely on the top of thelist, but maybe a little bit
further down um, or there'scentral park for that finish.
Um, I definitely love a goodfinish line area Um.
That's when I start to drainand really feel the uh, rolling
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Hills as the back half of thismarathon.
So I think probably centralpark.
But they need to make sure theyare not using um again the
first avenue cross.
You cannot get across thereduring the race.
You can't expect to hop allaround the city easily like some
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of the other ones.
So pick two, maybe three spotsIf you're willing to risk, maybe
one of those kind of prioritizein one, two, three, what are
the most important for you asthe runner and make sure you're
communicating that with yourspectators so they know what to
expect as well during that day,what you're expecting to see
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them If you want to catch themat a certain spot.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Love this.
This is such really good,valuable advice.
I wish that I would have hadthis I don't know a decade ago,
because that was a big issuethat I ran into with my
spectators.
So this really, really solidinformation here, my friends.
Okay, let's talk about how toget in, how to get this golden
ticket, because it really doesfeel impossible.
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Um, I know that you attemptedthrough the lottery.
How do you feel about it aftertrying the lottery?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
hey, this is my second year for the main lottery
.
Now that's something that's alittle unique with this race, is
they also in previous years?
Um, hopefully they have it, forthis is a lottery for a virtual
option as well.
Um, so I have tried for bothin-person and the virtual
options and have not secured myticket just yet.
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Um, the virtual lottery is yourun it virtually on the same day
as the New York city marathon,um, so you have a 24 hour window
to get your miles in, howeverlong it takes you, but it has to
be on that day, does have to belogged in Strava, and then you
get that golden ticket for thefollowing years in person
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marathon.
I love, I love that they give adifferent option because they
know that it's very, very, verytough to get in this race.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Absolutely.
I mean, without a doubt.
So the nine in one program forall the local folks, even though
I have a girlfriend who doesthis particular way of doing it,
even though she lives inFlorida, where she'll go up and
run the nine New York road racesand then volunteer so that she
can get her magic lottery goldenticket.
But again, as we've discussed abazillion times, we're going to
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discuss it here again as well.
We cannot stress this enough Ifthis is something you want to
make happen, like any of themajors, you're going to have to
have creativity, You're going tohave to have patience, a little
dash and sprinkle of good luckand a whole lot of just
determination to not give up,because, more than ever, we're
continuing to see lots of littlefun ways of getting in.
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I think I recently saw somebodygot their New York City golden
ticket through like a Stravacompetition that they had
entered.
So there's just there'sdifferent ways to just stay in
the loop.
Um, so there's just there'sdifferent ways to just stay in
the loop.
You might even want to do NewYork city marathon.
Um, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Registration as a Google alert, so that when
things pop up, you can see thatmarathon entry yeah, and
definitely take a look at theNew York road runners, um pages.
I know they have an awesomeorganization, um organization
and they're always putting outdifferent ways to get into this
race and even if they have a lotof other fun races that they
have throughout the year thatare again still breaking new
(26:28):
barriers and you can see a lotnew things.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yes, absolutely.
So.
Before we bring this to a close, we're going to talk about some
of those legendary moments thatwe've already touched on a
little bit Greet weights winningnine times, but Meb breaking
the US drought and winning in2009.
And we're all every singlerunner woman in the world is
(26:53):
going to remember ShaileneFlanagan's epic win.
I mean, it was actually myfavorite Halloween costume that
entire year of 2017, wherelittle girls were getting
dressed up as Shailene with thatepic, epic win that she had
that year.
So there's so much to do andsee in New York City we can't
even possibly get into it all,except that this is a race that
(27:15):
you're definitely going to wantto do, and we welcome you to
join us with the stridecollective or women, of world
marathon majors to continuegetting that community support.
Ashley, I'm going to ask you,though what do you think you are
most excited to do in New Yorkcity before, after, your
marathon?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
your marathon.
Oh, I, I'm.
I'm having on my list to govisit um the hotel for home
alone.
Oh, really such.
(27:54):
Yes, so I love New York city.
I, I, definitely.
I mean you have to go see thestatue of Liberty.
I have done that before and itis really a sight to see.
It is no longer there, but FAOSchwartz they used to have toy
soldiers that stood outside,like human toy soldiers that
stood outside, and it was such amemorable experience for me.
(28:14):
You could say Rockefellercenter.
There's so much to do in NewYork city.
Like I'm, I'm so excited to godo it again because it just
never gets old.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Well, with that said, friends, we want to hear from
you what you're excited to seeor undo at New York city and, if
you've got gained your goldenticket to run the race, we want
to cheer you on and support youon your way there.
So, without a shadow of a doubt, we look forward to continuing
to cheer you along your journey,as you race towards your stars.
Until next time, keep stridingtoward the extraordinary.
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