August 7, 2025 • 50 mins
We saddle up for a journey through Disney's Frontierland, exploring its rich history, hidden details, and Western-inspired magic that can transform your next run into a frontier adventure for runDisney's Big Thunder Mountain Virtual Summer Series.
• Frontierland was one of Walt's original lands when Disneyland opened in 1955, designed to transport guests back to the 1800s
• The wooden fort walls at the land's entrance were made from real ponderosa pine trees
• Mark Twain's riverboat was technically the first working Disneyland attraction, hosting Walt and Lillian's 30th anniversary four days before opening
• Tom Sawyer Island was the only Disneyland attraction designed entirely by Walt himself
• Big Thunder Mountain Railroad opened in 1979, replacing the Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland
• Look for hidden details like upside-down horseshoes in the dynamite scene representing bad luck in the "cursed" mine
• Disney's Western films include classics like Davy Crockett, Old Yeller, and The Apple Dumpling Gang
• Frontierland dining options include Pecos Bill's Tall Tale Inn, Golden Horseshoe Saloon, and Thunder Mesa's Cowboy Cookout
• Western-themed running costume ideas include cowboy/cowgirl runner, sheriff runner, rodeo rider, and gold prospector
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Howdy friends and welcome to another thrilling
episode of Extraordinary Strides.
I'm your host, coach Christine,and today we're setting off on
the wildest run in the West, ajourney through the adventurous
spirit and magical storytellingthat only Disney can deliver,
from the dusty trails ofFrontierland to the silver
screen cowboys.
We've rounded up everything youneed to make your next run a
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Frontier-inspired adventure.
We're going to explore the richhistory of Frontierland and the
Western movies, set up somemouth-watering Western eats and
even help you gear up withrunner-friendly costumes.
Please don't forget ourspecially curated Spotify
playlist Wild West Strides.
You can find that in episodenotes to keep your feet moving
and your spirits high.
So here and now, let's saddle up, let's lace those running shoes
(00:43):
tight and let's hit the trailExtraordinary stride style.
All right, my friends, I amwelcomed and so excited,
thrilled to bring on in ourspecial guest to the mic today,
someone who not only knows herway through a race course or two
, but she also knows her wayaround the wildest land in
Disneyland world and beyond.
Please give a warm welcome toLynn Kenney.
(01:06):
Lynn, I'm so excited to haveyou here and I know you're going
to be hosting our in-personthemed run, so you can tell us
all about that as well.
But welcome on in.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeehaw.
Thanks, christine.
I'm giddy as a goat in a cactuspatch.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Or to talk about one of my favorite Disneyland's a
cactus patch, or to talk aboutone of my favorite Disneyland's
Frontierland.
I feel like you have helped meexplore Frontierland more so in
a way that I probably wouldn'thave ventured in, and I've had a
whole lot of fun, so thank youfor that.
So let's kick things off fromthe very beginning.
Frontierland was one of Walt'soriginal lands, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, ma'am, it was indeed.
When Disneyland opened in 1955,frontierland was there, ready
to transport guests back to the1800s.
Walt had a deep love forAmerican folklore and the
pioneering spirit, the Old West,and he wanted the guests to
live those stories, not justlook at them.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Okay, I mean, he didn't just imagine it, though
he truly built it.
I heard that the wooden fortwalls at the land's entrance
were made from real ponderosapine trees.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's correct, and the buildings even designed to
reflect how real boomtownsevolved in the 1840s.
So the architecture it suddenlymodernizes as you walk through
it, just like in history.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Okay, tell me about Bonanza.
I think Outfitters, bonanzaOutfitters, that's a shop right.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That is correct, but it's actually several buildings
because Disney always likes thatlayered effect.
It's you know, if you think ofMain Street or any of those
storefront types of places, eachstorefront has its own facade,
including the Crockett andRussell Hat Company.
If you look up at the secondstory, you'll see a window that
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says Davy Crockett Coonskin CatCompany.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Fess Parker Proprietor, which is a tribute
to the man who played DavyCrockett.
Coonskin Cat Company bestParker proprietor, which is a
tribute to the man who playedDavy Crockett.
I love those details.
I think that's one of myfavorite aspects of all things.
Magic Kingdom is that there'sso many little hidden nuggets
well, nuggets of gold if youwill, but let's.
I mean I think that's amazing.
But I also want to talk trees.
You know that I love me someHalloween tree.
Tell me a little bit more aboutthat.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, just outside the Silver Spur facade is a
humble oak that became aHalloween icon in each October.
So it's a tribute to RayBradbury, who wrote a novel
called the Halloween Tree in2007.
So Disney dedicated that treeto him.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Interesting.
Okay, again, I feel like when Igrew up I'd go into Magic
Kingdom, but I didn't reallyunderstand all of the history
and I have to be honest with you, I don't think I even explored
half of Frontierland as a kid.
So let's get a little deeperinto it.
Can you tell me a bit aboutMark Twain's riverboat as a kid?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So let's get a little deeper into it.
Can you tell me a bit aboutMark Twain's riverboat?
Well, walt and Lillian actuallycelebrated their 30th wedding
anniversary on it four daysbefore the park opened, so it
was technically the firstworking Disneyland attraction.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No way.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, but even though it is on a track, that big
paddle wheel on the back, thatis totally real and that's what
actually pushes the boat throughthe rivers of America.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I mean, I feel like that is truly magical and okay.
So explain to me a little bitof the hierarchy of this system,
Because who yields to who onthe rivers of America?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh yeah, there's definitely a pecking order there
.
So Mark Twain takes toppriority, followed by the
sailing ship Columbia, Thenthere's the pirate layers rafts
and then finally, Davy CrockettExplorer canoes idea about any
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of this, but I feel like a lotof them are in play.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
To take us over to Tom Sawyer Island, which is one
of Walt's personal projects, butI know there's a lot going on
with that, so tell me more,catch me up.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Well, that's the only Disneyland attraction designed
entirely by Walt himself.
He loved Mark Twain's works,wanted the kids to play in
nature like Tom and Huck did,and he even brought dirt from
Mississippi to mix with theisland's soil for authenticity,
which is interesting because theoriginal caves are in Missouri,
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not in Mississippi.
But that's okay, we'll givethem a pass on that.
But when we lived up in Iowa weactually went to Hannibal,
missouri, which is where theactual caves that are talked
about, and one of theinteresting things that we found
when we went to those caves is,back in the day they had
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because you could get lost inthose caves, as they did in the
story of Mark, you know of TomSawyer's story the children
would all sign their names atthe cave entrance and at the end
of the day they would crosstheir names off to let the
adults know that they had madeit out of the caves.
And if everybody wasn't crossedoff, then they would set up a
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search party to go find thechildren who were missing.
So it was very interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well, I don't think that that happens at all at the
parks.
As far as I know, it does not.
It's a very short section but Ilike the way.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It's one of my favorites to go to Tom Sawyer
Island and there.
Well, that no longer isaccessible but we would go.
It was a nice, quieter placewhere you could sit in rocking
chairs and relax and you couldgo through the caves and there
was the fort and all of thesesecret tunnels and hidden
passageways and the barrelbridge.
The last time we were there, mygrandson, who was five at the
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time, wanted to race me acrossthe wooden barrels.
He won.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So this is one of those areas that I did not
explore until I was a full onadult, and now I'm super, super
sad because I think that itoffered a great reprieve from
all of the hustle and bustlethat is Magic Kingdom or
Disneyland and all of that, butI think it's officially.
Were you there for when theMagic Kingdom one said farewell
Because they're re-theming it,but I'm not sure to what?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I was there, not right before.
I find that that gets toocrowded and then it loses the
nice of being quiet Right, right.
It was probably in the springthat I went, knowing that it was
coming to an end soon, but mygrandson got to experience it at
least once.
I believe the new is stillgoing to be along that Western
theme and going to add a carsarea over that, over that kind
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of adding to the whole frontierland and comparing with our main
event that we've talked aboutthe Big Thunder Mountain.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, let's well, let's make our way over there,
because that does make a wholelot of sense.
I think it's Piston PeakNational Park is what they're
going to be doing over there.
I'm looking forward to seeingwhat they come up with, but tell
me a little bit about why we'reall here tell me a little bit
about why we're all here.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, well, the ride didn't actually open until 1979
because it was replacing theMine Train Through Nature's
Wonderland.
So it used to be a very slowtrain ride in Disneyland and
they switched it to the rollercoaster.
It was designed by TonyBaxteraxter was the first roller
coaster disney ever createdusing computer modeling.
(08:29):
The ride is inspired by reallocations like monument valley
and bryce canyon, and imagineerscoured swap meets in wyoming
and nevada for authentic mininggear I.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
this is another reason why I love Disney and all
things of the parks, and it'struly magical because every
single, even the ride queues aresometimes even the best part,
because they have all these tinylittle props that have tons of
stories.
There's tons of fun puns in thequeue as well.
Now explain to me a little bitabout the town of Rainbow Ridge.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, that's the little town you pass by during
the ride, and it was actuallythe original set from the Mine
Train ride, but they wanted topreserve it and reimagine it for
Big Thunder Mountain.
It is not the exact same as theoriginal because when they
tried to move it it was eaten upwith termites, so it is a
replica.
Okay, it's okay.
(09:25):
Um, you will see a hotel windowwith a portrait of barnabas t
bullion.
He's the fictional president ofbig thunder mining company and
he's modeled after tony baxterhimself uh, this is so cool.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I feel like, honestly , we could probably spend a full
.
There should be college courseson just all the different
aspects of these.
I've also heard there's hiddenhorseshoes facing the wrong
direction on the final lift hill.
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yep, right above your head, in the dynamite scene,
horseshoes usually face upwardfor good luck, but this one is
flipped because, well, you're ina cursed mine.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh my goodness, that adds a little layer of
creepiness to it, that's forsure.
Okay, well, before we wrap thisup, I want to ask you what do
you think are some of the thingsthat maybe guests miss when
they're going to Frontierlandthat you feel like they should
definitely check out?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, on the ride itself on Thunder Mountain, one
thing to also watch for is thegoat eating the dynamite.
That is a very random thing butit's like very popular and
everybody wants to look for thegoat.
Another fun fact I don't knowif they, when they open it back
up, if it will be working again,but in the queue line there
(10:40):
were places where you could pushthese plungers down and the
ride actually responds to thatand will shoot water up and kind
of create the fake explosionsfor the people on the ride.
So you can, while you'rewaiting in the queue, you can
interact with the people on theride itself.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
They have to do that.
They have to bring that back.
I feel like that's one of thethings that younger kids that
are standing in these lines fora long time really find a lot of
joy in doing.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So I hope that they definitely bring that back, but
I think also, though, the otherthing I like with Frontierland,
though, is we always like goingto the Country Bear Jamboree.
I was not sure how I feltbecause, you know, with
Nostalgia, I enjoyed the firstsongs, but I do get that.
You know the original song withthe depressed bear of the, you
(11:30):
know, blood on the saddle, bloodon the ground, blood all around
.
I can see why they wanted to goaway from that, but having, um,
the country bears sing some ofthe current Disney, um, you know
, inspired uh, movie, moviesongs was, was really funny.
I was just literally LOLlaughing out loud during that.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Seriously, me too, and I have again you to think
for it, because I think I hadnot gone to country beer
jamboree since maybe I was eightand definitely don't remember
anything about it.
I just don't, it just didn'tstand out to me, was eight and
definitely don't rememberanything about it.
I just don't, it just didn'tstand out to me and I think I
enjoyed it more now as an adultand it really like had like a
hearty, like belly laughs.
It was really really funny,really entertaining.
(12:13):
Plus you get out of the hot sunbecause it's nice and cool in
there.
So I think that I think that'sa must do and I owe you for that
.
But we know too that, like Ibelieve Country Bear Jamboree
wasn't originally at Disneyland,Did that debut here in Magic
Kingdom, or was it?
Is it in different parks aswell?
It?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
was.
It was actually supposed to belike at a ski resort, but that
never happened, and so theywanted the country bears to do
that, but then they transtransported them.
So that was.
That was pretty interestingtransported them.
So that was pretty interesting.
Another interesting note,though, at Disneyland is there
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is a red stagecoach near the BigThunder Trail, which used to be
part of Knott's Berry Farm, butit has initials for WED, which
is Walt Disney Imagineering'sWED, which is Walt Disney
Imagineering's logo, like theacronym yeah, I love it.
But even in the W it's shapedlike the K from Knott's logo as
(13:13):
a nod to Walt and Walter Knott'sfriendship.
So apparently they were verygood buddies, both having their
theme parks.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I'm going to have to Google that afterwards.
I want to see it because, again, like talk about such wonderful
little details that are droppedin that you just don't
necessarily pay a whole lot ofattention to, right, okay, so
we're, we're going to definitelycheck these things out.
Tell me a little bit more abouthow maybe Frontierland across
the globe may take on acompletely different, or do they
(13:41):
stay true to this wholeAmericana kind of Western world?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well, as you know, as Disney does, they modify based
on where they're at.
So when they brought thefrontier to the swamps in
Florida, it was a bigger, bolderversion of the land because
they have more land, more space,yeah, frontier land in.
Magic Kingdom.
It did start with the countrybear jamboree and that was such
(14:06):
a hit.
It made a cornerstone of thepark when it first opened.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Now, what about Tokyo Disneyland?
Because I think that they dothings a little differently
there.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Indeed, they do so over in Tokyo.
They call it Western Landinstead of Frontierland, mostly
because the Japanese languagedoesn't really easily extinguish
the R sound in frontier.
So it mirrors the Americanparks but adds its own kind of
charm, especially in how itweaves the Japanese appreciation
for detail into the Old Westtheme.
(14:39):
So their Big Thunder isgorgeous and the waterfront
theming is like next level.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I feel like I need to go back, and I obviously still
want to take a trip over toDisneyland Paris, because I
think that they take things to awhole new level with Thunder
Mesa.
But tell me a little bit moreabout that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Absolutely so.
Disneyland Paris has the mostintricately themed version of
Frontierland.
It's not just a land, it's awhole town, thunder Mesa.
It's not just a land, it's awhole town, thunder Mesa.
It has its own mining company,its own mayor and even a
cemetery with backstories thatconnect to Phantom Manor, which
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is their haunted mansion version.
So they have it in Frontierland.
So that makes it a cohesivestory from the world in the
whole world, the moment you walkin.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Okay, so wait.
In Magic Kingdom we findHaunted Mansion kind of on the
cusp of Frontierland.
And is it Fantasyland?
Where does Haunted Mansion kindof live?
It's?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
technically Liberty Square.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Is Liberty Square, okay, and so Liberty Square is
kind of where we start to thentransition into Frontierland
from there.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Correct yeah so there's it.
Right, right, so you haveLiberty Square, which is the
smallest, I believe, of thelands.
So you have FrontierlandLiberty Square and then Fantasy.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
See, friends, I'm telling you she knows everything
.
I can't.
I can't even throw her off witha question like that because I
didn't know how it translatedover from Disneyland Paris.
That's very cool Again.
There's so many immersivedetails.
I kind of want to learn alittle bit more about
Frontierland Student Exposition.
I heard it's changed over theyears too.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Well it has.
Originally it used real bullets.
I don't know if you can imaginethat nowadays right, I cannot.
No.
Maintenance was a nightmare.
They had to repaint the targetsevery night and then it
switched to the use of infraredlights, but interestingly enough
it is no longer.
(16:35):
I don't know about Disneyland,but they took it.
They actually removed itrecently at Magic Kingdom.
Magic Kingdom it no longerexists there, so I don't know
what they're going to put thereinstead.
I haven't heard anything, butit's no longer there.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well, I know we're going to be talking about food
in a later segment a little bit,but Is there anything snack
related that we should keep inmind before we have that
official segment?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes, well, at Rancho there's Rancho del Zocalo.
It was used to be called Casade Fritos because, you know, at
the beginning Disney didn't wantto deal with food, and so he
partnered with different foodvendors to do the food.
So Frito Company was one ofthem, but interestingly, one of
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the workers noticed unusedtortillas being tossed out at
the end of the day, so hesuggested frying and seasoning
them, and the result is Doritos.
That's right, doritos were bornat Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Shut the Frontierland door.
I don't really.
That is wild.
Okay, now I have to ask do youhave a favorite Doritos flavor?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Probably Cool Ranch.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Okay, me too.
That's my favorite as well.
I just love the zestiness thatit brings, okay, okay, well,
friends, we're going to keep thezestiness going because I
definitely want to circle back alittle bit to Big Thunder,
because you've got so much greattrivia.
So what's the story behind thename of Big Thunder Mountain?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, so the name comes from the mine train
through Nature's Wonderland.
So there were two waterfalls inthat original ride Big Thunder
and Little Thunder.
Original ride Big Thunder andLittle Thunder.
So when the new coasterreplaced the Mine Train, disney
decided to honor those names.
As you know, with most newrides there's some sort of a nod
or a reminder of the ride thatused to be there.
(18:30):
So they keep that in play, whichI love.
That about them.
I mean they honor that and youcan still spot some of the old
rides infrastructure if you knowwhere to look.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well, I mean, I feel like if there's anybody who
knows where to look, it is you.
So maybe if you don't minddropping just a couple more,
just a couple more little thingsfor folks to look at next time
that they go to the parks ontheir own where they can
research.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Well, there's a tiny sign in the Big Thunder Q,
signed by Willard P Bounds, whois Lillian Disney's father.
Ah Okay, and we already talkedabout, you know, looking for the
horseshoe at the final lift.
So I know about to look forthat one and I think those are.
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Those are some of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Those little details.
And then the fact that when youpush the plungers again, our
Thunder Mountain in MagicKingdom is still closed for
refurbishment.
So I'm just hopeful that theplungers causing the explosions
will come back when they reopen.
But we will see.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Okay, so we've got a lot of fun to take in store.
See, okay, so we've got.
We've got a lot of fun to takein store.
Do we know when, potentially,we're going to be seeing it
reopen the attraction, or it'skind of still a little bit under
hush?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
well, I mean from the disney chat sites, um, that I
think that thought is next, nextyear, so I don't think it's
supposed to be until 2026.
But that that I could you know,we will see.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
That is not official Disney will do what Disney does
exactly, and we will find outwhen everybody else does as well
.
But until then, I have to sayagain, I want to thank you
because really, not only am Ilooking forward to the fact that
you have hosted all of thesereally fun in-person events
where you do bring a lot of thattheming to each individual
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event, but also because youreally do have such an
incredible love for all thingsDisney World that I think that
sharing in that experience withyou always gives me a little bit
of a lift, a little pep for mystuff as well.
So thanks for joining us.
I love the tour.
Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I am really excited about our upcoming event.
You know we had looked at somedifferent options and I think we
are going to stick with meetingat the Coronado Resort because
it just is the easiest and, as aside note, because of that, if
there are people who need to runsome longer miles, there are
some options for that.
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So, just you know, you can sendme a message in the event page
If you're.
If you are needing more milesor anything like that, there are
definitely easier options fromthat location.
So that's one of the reasonswe're sticking with that one.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Perfect, and I think it also has a little bit of a
Southwestern flair, so we'll beable to have a bit of that
adventure as well.
So, friends, join us on theFacebook page.
It has all of the eventinformation there, all the
details, and you can alsocommunicate with Lynn through
our event chat to get anyadditional details or any
questions that you may have.
With that said, thank you somuch for joining me, lynn,
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you're welcome.
All right, friends.
Up next we have Sally, and herand I are going to crack open
the vault of Disney's Westernmovie magic.
So don't go galloping off justyet Now.
You all know that I love a goodride through Frontierland, but
I also love curling up with aWestern that brings the dust,
the drama and the Disney magicright into my living room.
And joining me today for thecinematic roundup is our trivia
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queen and host of ExtraordinaryLeague's Movie Nights and, of
course, disney aficionado, sallyWyatt.
Sally, welcome back to the pod.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Howdy Christine.
I've been chomping at the bitto talk about all these films.
Disney has such a unique way ofputting heart and humor into
even the most dustiest ofWesterns.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Friends and she's not kidding, she has done so much
research.
She sent me a bunch of textswith things that she had found
because I was like I don't knowthat we're going to be able to
really do a lot with the movieaspect of it.
She's like oh wait, hold on tomy cowboy hat because I got you
girl.
So I love that Disney doesn'tjust recreate the West, they
reimagine it through folkloreand family and some serious
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frontier flair.
I want to kick things off, ifthat's okay.
Sally, I know you did a lot ofthe like bulk of the work of
this, but I think right out ofthe gate there's that davy
crockett, king of the wildfrontier, and that is the film
that of course launched, I mean,a whole big fashion, um style
of having those hats, those capswith, like the little raccoon
(22:56):
tail yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I mean faz parker, as dave crocker was the original
frontier influencer this filmhad was a compilation of
episodes from the tv series thatbut hit it hit the big screen
with this catchy anthem andunforgettable scenes of
crockett's exports, even at theend of them, ending at the
element which I feel like movies.
(23:21):
You, if you hear an anthem to amovie or even TV shows, like
you back in the day, you caninstantly know what movie or
film, your TV show, you'retalking about 100%.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Like there is something so like I think that
whoever does the cinematicscores deserve so much credit
and accolades because there issomething super.
I mean like we could think ofall sorts of movies that like we
know it from the theme song.
So I mean I still even getchills hearing that song.
And of course we know that thatmovie sparked a merchandising
boom with hats and lunch boxes,the works and of course, um,
(23:57):
this is one of my favorites.
I actually remember watchingthis.
This goes back to Floridapublic education school days
where we watched movies atschool.
But next one up is Old Yeller.
I know it's more of a frontierfamily film than a shootout
western, but this one I mean Idon't even know why they played
it in school tears, of courseyes and I.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
We just watched this recently with my kiddos, so it
definitely it's an emotional.
Old yellow is an emotional corememory material.
It's about loyalty, coming ofage and heartbreak.
It was one also one of thefirst Disney films to really
embrace that naturalisticstorytelling, and we can't
forget that there's a sequel toit called savage sam.
(24:41):
That took things up a notch,with more action and a very
brave doggo and I love myself adog I know I love dog films, but
I have to ask what did yourkids think about it?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
because I mean, did they feel they were so sad.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
They were so sad.
They it's it's.
It's wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
They did that is wrong it's wrong On so many
levels If you're a bad person.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
you know it's wrong.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Oh well, we'll focus on the happy, brave doggies.
So let's talk a little bit moreabout being brave with Tonka.
This is, of course, one of thelesser known gems, but it does
pull at your heartstrings again,with a wild stallion, native
American stories and the battleof Little Bighorn all rolled
into one.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, it's like a definitely a unique one.
It tells the tale from thehorse's perspective in many ways
, showing a full arc of loyalty,hardship and survival.
And the fact that Tonka is theonly survivor from that battle,
it's like just a gut punch to me.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I mean, there's clearly a theme going on with
these Westerns.
There's some tear-jerkingthemes, there's no doubt about
it.
But okay, let's go on toTreasure of Matacombe, which I
like to call.
Disney's frontier, meets alittle bit of Goonies Adventures
, which again core memory ofGoonies.
So it's got a hidden map, atreasure quest, real scenic
filming locations.
It's just got a little bit ofeverything for me.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yes, and I totally agree, and it was shot between
locations in Florida andCalifornia and it has that blend
of mystery and humor that'slike the signature of Disney.
Young Davey and his Monty creware on the run from the Villians
, villians, villians, villiansand Hurricanes, which is
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signature for Florida.
This movie's a great rainy dayflick, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Hopefully nobody's having to watch this during the
Hurricanes, but still it isdefinitely a really good one If,
or maybe a good one after, like, you've got your morning run in
and then we've got thosethunderstorms in the afternoon
rolling in a little bit of restday afterwards.
So I like that, but of coursewe're going to keep this going.
Um, one of my favorites, theapple dumpling gang I mean Don
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Knotts and Tim Conway, peak,peak buddy comedy energy in the
old west, which I love that too.
When I think a lot of this kindof genre, there is a lot of
that friend like core tight knitcommunity that comes to mind,
be it with your dog or with anactual human friend.
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So I do love that they havethat as well.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, and those two are magic the original films it.
The original film, is just purefun and the sequel, the apple
dumplings gang rides again,brings even more hijinks.
It's slapstick gold and thechemistry between the two of
them is what made both the filmsso lovable.
And, actually, researching this, these are movies that I'm
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going to be showing my kiddoshere when they get home.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Oh, I'm so excited about that because I think that
this is kind of what keepsDisney magic going.
Like, some of these are clearlybefore like our time, but we
watched them with our family orour parents or maybe even some
grandparents, and then havingthat continue on is always
what's so exciting about thesemovies.
But you know, I know thatpeople forget about this next
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movie.
But the Bullwhip Griffin isabsolutely bonkers.
It's delightful and it's like abutler turned price fighter in
the gold rush era.
It's just a little quirky andweird and a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yes, and Roddy McDonald gave this film so much
charm.
It's one of those rare Disneywesterns that isn't about
cowboys per se but instead tellsa wacky underdog story full of
clever twists and the costumedesign.
I have to give it an A plus forthe 1860s flair.
I have to.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
As of course we've got Sally sporting her full
western gear for this recording.
My friend Again, if she'sgiving it an A+, you know that
you guys are going to get yourin for a treat.
But you know, what's crazy isthat again, as I remember
specifically as having aconversation, I was like I don't
think we're going to find a lotof movies to talk about.
And you're like, again, holdlot of movies to talk about.
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And you're like, again, hold onto my cowboy hat.
I'm shocked there's so many,but this next one is the Sign of
Zorro.
It's such a classic.
Guy Williams is iconic as DonDiego.
The film was cut together fromthe original TV series that
Disney had and it gave audiencesdashing little swashbuckling
hero who fought injustice withrepair and a little bit of a
wink, which I love, that it'skind of it's got a nod for like
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the adults, like there's alittle bit of like witty humor
and dialogue that the adults canget, but the kids will just
love like the aspect of theaction, of it all yes, and I
agree.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I always say zoro was like the disney's original cape
.
Consider like I know everyonelikes them Superman and other
ones but I'm always a fan ofZorro and the score play the
sword play.
It was absolutely fantastic.
It still holds up.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Um, it's, it's a hidden gem, I have to say now
tell me a little bit more aboutum Scandalous John.
I think that's a new one thatI've not really heard a lot
about, but I know that youuncovered quite a bit of details
with these hidden gems, so tellme more about that one.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, this one's like I didn't even really hear about
till researching.
It's a really hidden gem.
Don Quijote reimagined as agrumpy old rancher, played by
Brian Keith, he's out to reclaimjustice.
One fantastic misadventure at atime.
Accompanied by his faithfulsquare, paco, it's offbeat,
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whimsical and surprisinglyheartfelt.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
So what I think we're getting a theme of is these
Westerns have like a little bitof like this, like rascally
energy that kind of reallyenergizes and brings a lot of
humor.
There's a lot of likewholesomeness, but still a lot
of fun aspects to it.
So, yeah, I think it's supercute.
I love that they reimagine likesuch a classic tale.
It's also one of those likewait, what did I just watch
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movies in the best possible way.
So next up is Return to SnowyRiver.
Ok, now you guys are going tohave to bear with me.
It's not technically theAmerican West, I got you.
I know you guys are all goingto come at me but it's got that
rugged pioneer spirit and it'sset in the Australian frontier,
which, of course, since I'mgoing to Sydney soon, I'm
excited about that.
So I think Return to SnowyRiver should have at least a
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little star here as somethingthat people should watch into.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I mean, we had to throw something in that's
Australian.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Like it'd be the world.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
it'd be not with the World Marathon.
Major, yeah, it has gorgeouslandscape, is dramatic,
horsemanship, sweeping score.
It's like the man from SnowyRiver took everything good from
the first film and dialed it up.
Bruce Ronhout's music wonawards and honestly it makes me
want to get out and gallop on ahorse.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
See, I'm telling you friends, which of course I'm
going to, I'm going to go aheadand drop in that, while I'm not
necessarily a cinematographer,musical score genius, that that
we do have a soundtrack for theWild West Strides playlist you
guys can check out.
Um, but of course, speaking ofgalloping, the castaway cowboy
James Gardner ends up on aHawaiian island and teaches
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cattle ranching.
It makes me just giggle so muchI know it's, it's, exactly it's
, it's.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
It's the wild west with a tropical twist, a fish
out water story.
That low stakes and totallycharming garner is effortlessly
likable and it shows how disneyisn't afraid to stretch out the
boundaries of the genre yeah, Imean again, they literally
there's just so many hits.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I mean we're going to keep them coming, friends.
So you guys, I hope that I knowyou're maybe out for a run, and
if you don't have this entirelist, don't worry, we could
always send it your way.
Just shoot us a message,because there's another one that
defies expectations.
The miracle of the whitestallions are now.
Okay, we're in Vienna is duringWorld War Two, but it's all
about saving the Lippins innerhorses.
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So I think horses.
I automatically think Westernas well.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yes, it's it.
You can't have a Westernwithout a horse, I mean and this
was a true story too.
So, colonel, I'm going tobutcher this name.
I apologize, pod.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I'm going to say it's just Colonel.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Please don't take offense to whoever is.
Relatives of this person Riskeverything to rescue those
horses.
It's elegant, dramatic andemotional salute to both human
and animal residencies, to bothhuman and animal residencies,
and if you love historicaldramas with a Western agile feel
, this one is definitely worthrevisiting.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I think again that's what's so great about this genre
is there's some humor, there'sa lot of human Ironically
there's a lot of human emotionelement, specifically with the
animals, so that one'sdefinitely a top of the list for
me.
Now let's talk a little bitabout hot lead and cold feet.
I mean the title alone.
On that one, I'm, I'm just.
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I have so many visions cominginto my head just from that
title I know I absolutely lovethe title of the movie.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
This one is a comedy chaos in the wild west west.
This has jim dale in it, whoplays twin brothers one's a
preacher and the other one's agunfighter vying for their
inheritance.
Don knots plays the sheriff,and he's hilarious in it.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
It's goofy and over the top in the most delightful
way okay, seriously, that onedoes sound like it needs to go
to the top of the list.
That sounds just like a good,hearty family watch for sure.
And speaking of thatfamily-friendly fun, of course
there's the great locomotivechase.
Now, this one's more adventurethan comedy, but it's still one
of Disney's best historicaldramas.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yes, and it has best Parker again in this.
He stars in this true crime ortrue Civil War story about Union
spies trying to sabotage aConfederate train, hits
suspenseful grounded and bringsreal history to life in a way
that only Disney could.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Okay.
And then, finally, as we startto round this up, let's give a
shout out to Don Carter, because, yes, it's a little sci-fi, but
there's no denying that itfeels like a space Western.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, like 100%.
I mean, I remember watchingthis and when you initially
think of it you see the aliensand stuff.
You don't think of it.
But if you look at it.
It has a Confederate soldier init.
He gets teleported to Mars.
He joins a Revan, rides alienbeasts.
It's like a classic western ina new galaxy.
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It was ahead of its time, butit's finally getting the
appreciation it finally deserves.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
It's giving me a little bit of space aliens meet
Star Wars.
It feels a little bit likethere's a little hodgepodge of
all of the genres that cometogether, but of course it's
still absolutely a must watch.
So, friends, while we havereached the end of our cinematic
roundup, if you're stilllooking to leave the relive the
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West and all it's Disney fiveglory, you have definitely got
plenty of options.
So queue up that Disney pluschannel.
We're going to link the fulllist in the episode notes.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah.
So pick a movie, start it, pairthe film with a themed snack,
throw on those boots and rideinto the sunset from your
stallion called the couch.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Exactly.
I'm going to definitely takeoff my cowboy boots for that,
though, but I will wear mycowboy hat, sally, thank you
again for taking us on thisincredible ride through the wild
, wacky and, of course,wonderful Westerns of Disney.
And to all of our listenersdon't go anywhere.
We've still got food, costumesand more coming up with Kimba
Watson right after this.
Friends, we have gallopedthrough the frontier and we have
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cantered past the cinematicWest, and now it's time to
refuel, of course, western style.
I'm so excited to welcome oneof my favorite foodies and
fabulous runners, kimbo Watson.
Kimbo, welcome to the pod again.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Thank you, christine.
I'm ready to dig into thedelicious side of the Disney
frontier If there's a cornbreadcrumb or cowboy fry worth
knowing about.
I've tasted it.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Again, 100%.
I believe that that's why welove you.
Let's start where it all began,though Of course, let's take it
all the way to Disneyland inAnaheim.
What's cooking over inFrontierland these days?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Oh plenty.
Let's talk about the GoldenHorseshoe Saloon first.
Not only is it packed with showtunes and Western flair, but
it's also serving up crispychicken tenders, my favorite
hearty wraps, and my otherpersonal favorite, the Roy
Rogers sandwich.
It's like dining in a livestage show, so fun.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Wait, are you a chicken tender kind of gal?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I am I am I all the chicken tenders from all the
places?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
And yeah, we'll have to do it, we'll have to do a
personal Kimba ranking of allthe chicken tenders and then
sauces too.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
We got to have the sauces to go with, OK, so that
sounds exciting.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Well, in the meantime , we'll also check out those
cowboy fries, because I thinkthey've got them over there as
well.
They're loaded up with nachobeef cheese and pickles, which
sounds a little weird to me.
I guess it's like acheeseburger meets a French fry
in the best possible way.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yeah, that sounds really good.
And then exactly just acrossthe way is the Hungry Bear
Barbecue Jamboree, which used tobe tucked into Frontierland but
now borders Bayou Country.
To frontier land but nowborders bayou country.
It's a double-decker rusticparadise where you can grab
smoked meats, tangy barbecuesauce and sides.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
It screams summer picnic which I love a summer
picnic, so fun yeah, actuallyall of that.
Now we're definitely up myalley right here.
Well, let's go ahead and hop onover, just take a little plane
trip back over to magic kingdomand walt disney world.
What are we mentioning on overhere?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
um, my favorite is going to be Pico's Bill's Tall
Tale Inn and is the place to be.
It's a Tex-Mex haven withloaded nachos, tacos, Southwest
burgers.
The topping bar is my absolutefavorite.
So fun it's like you can almostmake a whole meal out of the
topping bar itself and just putanything you think of that needs
to go on nachos or tacos oryour burgers.
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They have it at that bar.
It is legendary.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I think people sleep on the Picos too.
I think it's like the perfectlittle spot, like just dip in
real quick Plus.
It's so nice in there, likethere's so many different places
to sit, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
I'm a big fan of it as well.
And then, yeah, with the nachos, you can always split them with
someone too, which is afantastic split snack if you
want something just to snack on.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
See, kimba, that goes to show just how amazing you
are, that you're willing tosplit your snacks with the
people around you.
Cause.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I mean sometimes sometimes.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Well, I've also seen that folks that camp out for the
fried green tomato sandwichover at golden oak outpost.
I've not tried it yet have you.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Oh my gosh, it's worth it.
I love a good fried greentomato sandwich and it's served
with this zesty sauce.
It's a southern bite with adisney twist, and golden oak
itself has other gems likechicken sandwiches and, on a hot
day, refreshing frozen drinksthat'll cool you down faster
than a breeze on Big.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Thunder Trail.
We're all needing thoserefreshing frozen drinks right
about now.
Oh yes, so let's say we'regoing to head over to the
Diamond Horseshoe and WestwardHo.
Tell me a little bit more aboutthese two locations.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Those two bring the sit-down saloon experience At
Diamond Horseshoe think roastbeef, turkey platters and again,
cornbread muffins big enough toshare.
Westward Ho is more of agrab-and-go, but you'll find
classics like Corn Dogs andMickey Pretzels.
It's small but mighty.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Oh, my goodness.
Okay, so I feel like we havejust started to scratch the
surface of all the deliciousnesshere in Magic Kingdom, but
let's go ahead and jump on thatjumbo jet and head over to Tokyo
.
Western Land's dining game isstrong too, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
It's really strong.
Cowboy Cookhouse is their starplayer Barbecue chicken ribs and
delicious smoked sausage combos.
And of course, they also havetheir own version of Pico's Bill
Cafe and the Diamond Horseshoe,where the theming is next level
and the meals are hearty.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I mean, I think we should get our visa stamped so
we could head over there and getsome of these meals.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
But I also want to go to Paris as well.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I've heard nothing but rave reviews about Thunder
Mesa.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Yeah, Thunder Mesa's Cowboy Cookout Barbecue is a
feast and a show.
Live country music, halfchicken with seasoned potatoes
and bacon cheeseburgers that area chef's kiss.
The Lucky Nugget Saloon offersshow dining with family style
meals, and for steak lovers,Silver Spur Steakhouse is a must
.
Open flame cooking in a WesternLodge setting.
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Yes please.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I mean, I think all these places sound a whole lot
of fun.
There's no doubt about it, andI love that even they have
burrito and quesadilla spotslike Fuente del Oro and Last
Chance Cafe.
It's like every corner ofFrontierland delivers a
different regional take oncowboy cuisine.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Absolutely.
From churros near the horseshoeto cinnamon rolls at Pico
Bill's Frontierland is whereyour hunger rides off into the
sunset, completely satisfied.
If you're not full when youleave there, then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
You did it the wrong way Exactly.
I can tell you my stomach isnot full right now.
My stomach's growling Kimba.
I feel like I want to go dinein all of these locations, but I
want to say thank you forgalloping through the Disney
parks and giving us thisculinary roundup.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Anytime, christine, but don't untie those laces just
yet.
We've still got fun costumes totalk about, because what's a
themed run without the perfectcostume?
Speaker 1 (42:40):
And honestly, kimba, I don't know like what you would
be like if we were to have torate, like, what does Kimba know
more about?
Like where the fun places toget snacks and drinks are at the
parks or costuming.
I feel like, girl, these areyour wheelhouse, so you tell you
tell me what?
What should we, what should webe prepared for this run?
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Um, actually, the wild West is full of lots of
inspiration.
Whether you're going rugged,refined or a little ridiculous,
there's something for everyone.
So what?
Speaker 1 (43:10):
should we yeah, I was going to say well, so what?
What should we potentiallyprepare for?
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Uh well, we've got cowboy or cowgirl runner.
You could pair running shortsor leggings with a lightweight,
moisture wicking plaid shirt.
Top it off with a breathablecowboy hat or a headband
designed to look like a bandana.
Don't forget your fauxsheriff's badge for extra
authenticity, also with thebandana.
Don't forget your fauxsheriff's badge for extra
authenticity, also with thebandana.
Don't forget all that sparkle.
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If you want to add any funsparkle to it, bedazzle it.
I mean, come on A rhinestonecowboy, yes, please.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
I think Lynn may have actually tackled this number
one, and she may have had aspecial pair of leggings that
looked a little bit more cowboy,cowgirl-y too.
So I think again, you guys, youknow all of the different
things to tackle what else couldwe wear if maybe we aren't
gonna?
Speaker 4 (43:57):
go that route Also.
There's the Pioneer Runner.
You can opt for a simple bonnetor straw hat and match it with
a lightweight, flowy blouse andskirt made from performance
fabric.
Add a running-friendly apronwith pockets to stash those
energy gels or snacks.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Okay, anything that allows us to have more snacks as
part of our running gear, I amdefinitely down with that one.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
And then we also have the Sheriff Runner Sport black
or brown running shorts, a techfabric shirt resembling a
sheriff's uniform, and add asheriff's star pen securely.
Consider wrist cuffs thatresemble old old tiny cuffs for
a finishing touch.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
That might be interesting to run with, and I
mean I definitely have seen someviolations on the race course a
couple of times or two, somaybe they would come in handy.
I'm kind of digging maybe thatsaloon server runner trying like
a.
There's so many great companiesthat make a lot of like these
corset inspired running tanksthat you can find Pairing those
with running shorts or a skirtand adding a small lightweight
apron again to carry a tray,maybe from foam, Even though
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we've seen some folks that runDisney who have carried full on
like balancing acts of trays?
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yeah, absolutely, I don't know.
I also think, yeah, I alsothink a fun feather like out,
like with a little headband,would be super cute too.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Like a little fascinator.
Oh, I dig it, Okay.
Okay, I'm literally I dig itand I can dig some gold also as
a gold prospector runner.
So maybe again making sure thatwe're being conscious of some
like sweat wicking fabrics.
But you could wear some moreearth tones, maybe get some
suspenders over your runningshorts, accessorize with a faux
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beard, a little lightweightminer's hat, or maybe some of
the runners actually alreadyhave like a full on beard this
might be their costume and Iwould say, consider like a
little mini pan or foam goldnuggets, or maybe even like that
miner's hat with a little light, which could also come in handy
depending what time of dayfolks are running.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
That would be really fun too.
I like that one Very creative.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
And I think that this next one, kimba, I would say
that this one should go alongwith your official sheriff
runner.
We should have an outlaw banditrunner.
So I think, like people thatare looking for costumes or they
want to go running with theirbesties.
So again, this was a little biteasier.
I'm thinking kind of JesseJames, a little bit rough and
tumble.
Outlaw look, maybe again thattech fabric bandana, maybe not
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as sparkly, though I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
I don't know if I feel like that sparkly with this
one.
Also, I think it would be funto get like a bag and put like a
money sign on it or something.
Like you just left the bankwith the money and you're
running and then the sheriff'srunning after you.
You have a friend with thesheriff costume on that would be
the sheriff.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I hope somebody does tackle this.
I want to see this.
I feel like this would be asuper fun costume for couples
for sure.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
What else do?
Speaker 1 (46:39):
you have in mind Kimba, Because I feel like you
have just started to scratch thesurface.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
We've got the rodeo rider runner.
You can combine running tightsor shorts with faux chaps
crafted from breathable fabric.
Add a brightly colored runningtop and accessorize with a
lightweight cowboy hat andgloves to complete your rodeo
persona.
And this one, I think would befun if you could get somebody to
dress like a cow or something.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, oh, my goodness , and I feel like if we're going
to go rodeo, I think this islike where the sparkles can
totally a hundred percent headto toe.
Yes, truly, oh, okay, I dig.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
that is your rhinestone cowboy right there
the rodeo oh, I love it and thenfinally, too, another one, I
think, where you can use a lotof rhinestones and fun stuff is
going to be that western moviehero runner right, you're here.
Channel the.
You can also channel iconiccharacters like woody from toy
story or Jesse the Lone Rangerwith running gear customized to
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reflect these famous Westernheroes, including themed shirts,
hats and accessories.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I mean, I think, right here, like for a run
Disney race, woody and Jesse isabout as good as it gets.
So I love that ability and,again, tons of places on the
interwebs for folks to findthese or even borrow some of,
like their kids costumeaccessories.
I think it's always somethingthat I find that people neglect
to dip into.
I'm totally obsessed with thesebecause I think that this is a
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whole lot of fun, and I thinkthat for this specific race, I
might be even more excited thanall the others because I think
there's just so many fun theming.
So I want to thank you so muchfor lending us all of your
expertise because, kimba, I'mnot kidding you Like, you take
it to the next level.
I'm a little curious if you'rewilling to share, what would you
potentially dress up as?
Are you going to tell us?
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Are you going to give us alittle bit preview here, or
we're just going to have to waitfor the socials?
Um, I mean lately, I don't knowit's, it's pink pony, pink pony
you know.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
So the pink, okay, okay, yeah, I'm digging that.
Okay, I can't wait to see thaton the sparkle and pink and
rhinestones.
Maybe we'll see.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
I love it well.
Thank you again so much forcoming on board and giving us
all of your knowledge and maybea little hint or two as to what
we're going to see Kimbasporting on her costume.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Again, thanks for having me, Christine.
Let's get out there and makethe wildest run in the West the
most stylish one too, Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
And friends.
That wraps up this rip androaring, root and tootin'
episode of Extraordinary Strides.
A big old thank you to ourincredible guests.
I couldn't do it without youLynn Kenney for guiding us
through the history and hiddengems of Frontierland.
Sally for rounding up thosebest Disney Westerns this side
of Mississippi.
And Kimba Watson for, of course, keeping us stylish and well
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fed with all the best bites andcostumes from the trail.
And to you, our very amazing,extraordinary runners, thank you
for joining us through thiswildest run in the West.
Whether you're walking throughthose dusty trails, racing
through Thundermessa orstrutting your cowboy best on
the treadmill, we are here forevery single step of it.
Remember, the fun continues allweekend long in our podcast
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We've got games, themedchallenges and the chance to
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So grab that bandana, fill upyour water bottle and ride off
into the virtual sunset with us.
Until next time, keep stridingwith heart, grit and just a
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whole lot of bit of yeehawspirit.
Howdy friends and welcome to another thrilling
episode of Extraordinary Strides.
I'm your host, coach Christine,and today we're setting off on
the wildest run in the West, ajourney through the adventurous
spirit and magical storytellingthat only Disney can deliver,
from the dusty trails ofFrontierland to the silver
screen cowboys.
We've rounded up everything youneed to make your next run a
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Frontier-inspired adventure.
We're going to explore the richhistory of Frontierland and the
Western movies, set up somemouth-watering Western eats and
even help you gear up withrunner-friendly costumes.
Please don't forget ourspecially curated Spotify
playlist Wild West Strides.
You can find that in episodenotes to keep your feet moving
and your spirits high.
So here and now, let's saddle up, let's lace those running shoes
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tight and let's hit the trailExtraordinary stride style.
All right, my friends, I amwelcomed and so excited,
thrilled to bring on in ourspecial guest to the mic today,
someone who not only knows herway through a race course or two
, but she also knows her wayaround the wildest land in
Disneyland world and beyond.
Please give a warm welcome toLynn Kenney.
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Lynn, I'm so excited to haveyou here and I know you're going
to be hosting our in-personthemed run, so you can tell us
all about that as well.
But welcome on in.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeehaw.
Thanks, christine.
I'm giddy as a goat in a cactuspatch.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Or to talk about one of my favorite Disneyland's a
cactus patch, or to talk aboutone of my favorite Disneyland's
Frontierland.
I feel like you have helped meexplore Frontierland more so in
a way that I probably wouldn'thave ventured in, and I've had a
whole lot of fun, so thank youfor that.
So let's kick things off fromthe very beginning.
Frontierland was one of Walt'soriginal lands, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, ma'am, it was indeed.
When Disneyland opened in 1955,frontierland was there, ready
to transport guests back to the1800s.
Walt had a deep love forAmerican folklore and the
pioneering spirit, the Old West,and he wanted the guests to
live those stories, not justlook at them.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Okay, I mean, he didn't just imagine it, though
he truly built it.
I heard that the wooden fortwalls at the land's entrance
were made from real ponderosapine trees.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's correct, and the buildings even designed to
reflect how real boomtownsevolved in the 1840s.
So the architecture it suddenlymodernizes as you walk through
it, just like in history.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Okay, tell me about Bonanza.
I think Outfitters, bonanzaOutfitters, that's a shop right.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That is correct, but it's actually several buildings
because Disney always likes thatlayered effect.
It's you know, if you think ofMain Street or any of those
storefront types of places, eachstorefront has its own facade,
including the Crockett andRussell Hat Company.
If you look up at the secondstory, you'll see a window that
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says Davy Crockett Coonskin CatCompany.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Fess Parker Proprietor, which is a tribute
to the man who played DavyCrockett.
Coonskin Cat Company bestParker proprietor, which is a
tribute to the man who playedDavy Crockett.
I love those details.
I think that's one of myfavorite aspects of all things.
Magic Kingdom is that there'sso many little hidden nuggets
well, nuggets of gold if youwill, but let's.
I mean I think that's amazing.
But I also want to talk trees.
You know that I love me someHalloween tree.
Tell me a little bit more aboutthat.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, just outside the Silver Spur facade is a
humble oak that became aHalloween icon in each October.
So it's a tribute to RayBradbury, who wrote a novel
called the Halloween Tree in2007.
So Disney dedicated that treeto him.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Interesting.
Okay, again, I feel like when Igrew up I'd go into Magic
Kingdom, but I didn't reallyunderstand all of the history
and I have to be honest with you, I don't think I even explored
half of Frontierland as a kid.
So let's get a little deeperinto it.
Can you tell me a bit aboutMark Twain's riverboat as a kid?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So let's get a little deeper into it.
Can you tell me a bit aboutMark Twain's riverboat?
Well, walt and Lillian actuallycelebrated their 30th wedding
anniversary on it four daysbefore the park opened, so it
was technically the firstworking Disneyland attraction.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No way.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, but even though it is on a track, that big
paddle wheel on the back, thatis totally real and that's what
actually pushes the boat throughthe rivers of America.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I mean, I feel like that is truly magical and okay.
So explain to me a little bitof the hierarchy of this system,
Because who yields to who onthe rivers of America?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh yeah, there's definitely a pecking order there
.
So Mark Twain takes toppriority, followed by the
sailing ship Columbia, Thenthere's the pirate layers rafts
and then finally, Davy CrockettExplorer canoes idea about any
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of this, but I feel like a lotof them are in play.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
To take us over to Tom Sawyer Island, which is one
of Walt's personal projects, butI know there's a lot going on
with that, so tell me more,catch me up.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Well, that's the only Disneyland attraction designed
entirely by Walt himself.
He loved Mark Twain's works,wanted the kids to play in
nature like Tom and Huck did,and he even brought dirt from
Mississippi to mix with theisland's soil for authenticity,
which is interesting because theoriginal caves are in Missouri,
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not in Mississippi.
But that's okay, we'll givethem a pass on that.
But when we lived up in Iowa weactually went to Hannibal,
missouri, which is where theactual caves that are talked
about, and one of theinteresting things that we found
when we went to those caves is,back in the day they had
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because you could get lost inthose caves, as they did in the
story of Mark, you know of TomSawyer's story the children
would all sign their names atthe cave entrance and at the end
of the day they would crosstheir names off to let the
adults know that they had madeit out of the caves.
And if everybody wasn't crossedoff, then they would set up a
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search party to go find thechildren who were missing.
So it was very interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well, I don't think that that happens at all at the
parks.
As far as I know, it does not.
It's a very short section but Ilike the way.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It's one of my favorites to go to Tom Sawyer
Island and there.
Well, that no longer isaccessible but we would go.
It was a nice, quieter placewhere you could sit in rocking
chairs and relax and you couldgo through the caves and there
was the fort and all of thesesecret tunnels and hidden
passageways and the barrelbridge.
The last time we were there, mygrandson, who was five at the
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time, wanted to race me acrossthe wooden barrels.
He won.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So this is one of those areas that I did not
explore until I was a full onadult, and now I'm super, super
sad because I think that itoffered a great reprieve from
all of the hustle and bustlethat is Magic Kingdom or
Disneyland and all of that, butI think it's officially.
Were you there for when theMagic Kingdom one said farewell
Because they're re-theming it,but I'm not sure to what?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I was there, not right before.
I find that that gets toocrowded and then it loses the
nice of being quiet Right, right.
It was probably in the springthat I went, knowing that it was
coming to an end soon, but mygrandson got to experience it at
least once.
I believe the new is stillgoing to be along that Western
theme and going to add a carsarea over that, over that kind
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of adding to the whole frontierland and comparing with our main
event that we've talked aboutthe Big Thunder Mountain.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, let's well, let's make our way over there,
because that does make a wholelot of sense.
I think it's Piston PeakNational Park is what they're
going to be doing over there.
I'm looking forward to seeingwhat they come up with, but tell
me a little bit about why we'reall here tell me a little bit
about why we're all here.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, well, the ride didn't actually open until 1979
because it was replacing theMine Train Through Nature's
Wonderland.
So it used to be a very slowtrain ride in Disneyland and
they switched it to the rollercoaster.
It was designed by TonyBaxteraxter was the first roller
coaster disney ever createdusing computer modeling.
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The ride is inspired by reallocations like monument valley
and bryce canyon, and imagineerscoured swap meets in wyoming
and nevada for authentic mininggear I.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
this is another reason why I love Disney and all
things of the parks, and it'struly magical because every
single, even the ride queues aresometimes even the best part,
because they have all these tinylittle props that have tons of
stories.
There's tons of fun puns in thequeue as well.
Now explain to me a little bitabout the town of Rainbow Ridge.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, that's the little town you pass by during
the ride, and it was actuallythe original set from the Mine
Train ride, but they wanted topreserve it and reimagine it for
Big Thunder Mountain.
It is not the exact same as theoriginal because when they
tried to move it it was eaten upwith termites, so it is a
replica.
Okay, it's okay.
(09:25):
Um, you will see a hotel windowwith a portrait of barnabas t
bullion.
He's the fictional president ofbig thunder mining company and
he's modeled after tony baxterhimself uh, this is so cool.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I feel like, honestly , we could probably spend a full
.
There should be college courseson just all the different
aspects of these.
I've also heard there's hiddenhorseshoes facing the wrong
direction on the final lift hill.
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yep, right above your head, in the dynamite scene,
horseshoes usually face upwardfor good luck, but this one is
flipped because, well, you're ina cursed mine.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh my goodness, that adds a little layer of
creepiness to it, that's forsure.
Okay, well, before we wrap thisup, I want to ask you what do
you think are some of the thingsthat maybe guests miss when
they're going to Frontierlandthat you feel like they should
definitely check out?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, on the ride itself on Thunder Mountain, one
thing to also watch for is thegoat eating the dynamite.
That is a very random thing butit's like very popular and
everybody wants to look for thegoat.
Another fun fact I don't knowif they, when they open it back
up, if it will be working again,but in the queue line there
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were places where you could pushthese plungers down and the
ride actually responds to thatand will shoot water up and kind
of create the fake explosionsfor the people on the ride.
So you can, while you'rewaiting in the queue, you can
interact with the people on theride itself.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
They have to do that.
They have to bring that back.
I feel like that's one of thethings that younger kids that
are standing in these lines fora long time really find a lot of
joy in doing.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So I hope that they definitely bring that back, but
I think also, though, the otherthing I like with Frontierland,
though, is we always like goingto the Country Bear Jamboree.
I was not sure how I feltbecause, you know, with
Nostalgia, I enjoyed the firstsongs, but I do get that.
You know the original song withthe depressed bear of the, you
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know, blood on the saddle, bloodon the ground, blood all around
.
I can see why they wanted to goaway from that, but having, um,
the country bears sing some ofthe current Disney, um, you know
, inspired uh, movie, moviesongs was, was really funny.
I was just literally LOLlaughing out loud during that.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Seriously, me too, and I have again you to think
for it, because I think I hadnot gone to country beer
jamboree since maybe I was eightand definitely don't remember
anything about it.
I just don't, it just didn'tstand out to me, was eight and
definitely don't rememberanything about it.
I just don't, it just didn'tstand out to me and I think I
enjoyed it more now as an adultand it really like had like a
hearty, like belly laughs.
It was really really funny,really entertaining.
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Plus you get out of the hot sunbecause it's nice and cool in
there.
So I think that I think that'sa must do and I owe you for that
.
But we know too that, like Ibelieve Country Bear Jamboree
wasn't originally at Disneyland,Did that debut here in Magic
Kingdom, or was it?
Is it in different parks aswell?
It?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
was.
It was actually supposed to belike at a ski resort, but that
never happened, and so theywanted the country bears to do
that, but then they transtransported them.
So that was.
That was pretty interestingtransported them.
So that was pretty interesting.
Another interesting note,though, at Disneyland is there
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is a red stagecoach near the BigThunder Trail, which used to be
part of Knott's Berry Farm, butit has initials for WED, which
is Walt Disney Imagineering'sWED, which is Walt Disney
Imagineering's logo, like theacronym yeah, I love it.
But even in the W it's shapedlike the K from Knott's logo as
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a nod to Walt and Walter Knott'sfriendship.
So apparently they were verygood buddies, both having their
theme parks.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I'm going to have to Google that afterwards.
I want to see it because, again, like talk about such wonderful
little details that are droppedin that you just don't
necessarily pay a whole lot ofattention to, right, okay, so
we're, we're going to definitelycheck these things out.
Tell me a little bit more abouthow maybe Frontierland across
the globe may take on acompletely different, or do they
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stay true to this wholeAmericana kind of Western world?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well, as you know, as Disney does, they modify based
on where they're at.
So when they brought thefrontier to the swamps in
Florida, it was a bigger, bolderversion of the land because
they have more land, more space,yeah, frontier land in.
Magic Kingdom.
It did start with the countrybear jamboree and that was such
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a hit.
It made a cornerstone of thepark when it first opened.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Now, what about Tokyo Disneyland?
Because I think that they dothings a little differently
there.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Indeed, they do so over in Tokyo.
They call it Western Landinstead of Frontierland, mostly
because the Japanese languagedoesn't really easily extinguish
the R sound in frontier.
So it mirrors the Americanparks but adds its own kind of
charm, especially in how itweaves the Japanese appreciation
for detail into the Old Westtheme.
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So their Big Thunder isgorgeous and the waterfront
theming is like next level.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I feel like I need to go back, and I obviously still
want to take a trip over toDisneyland Paris, because I
think that they take things to awhole new level with Thunder
Mesa.
But tell me a little bit moreabout that.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Absolutely so.
Disneyland Paris has the mostintricately themed version of
Frontierland.
It's not just a land, it's awhole town, thunder Mesa.
It's not just a land, it's awhole town, thunder Mesa.
It has its own mining company,its own mayor and even a
cemetery with backstories thatconnect to Phantom Manor, which
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is their haunted mansion version.
So they have it in Frontierland.
So that makes it a cohesivestory from the world in the
whole world, the moment you walkin.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Okay, so wait.
In Magic Kingdom we findHaunted Mansion kind of on the
cusp of Frontierland.
And is it Fantasyland?
Where does Haunted Mansion kindof live?
It's?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
technically Liberty Square.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Is Liberty Square, okay, and so Liberty Square is
kind of where we start to thentransition into Frontierland
from there.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Correct yeah so there's it.
Right, right, so you haveLiberty Square, which is the
smallest, I believe, of thelands.
So you have FrontierlandLiberty Square and then Fantasy.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
See, friends, I'm telling you she knows everything
.
I can't.
I can't even throw her off witha question like that because I
didn't know how it translatedover from Disneyland Paris.
That's very cool Again.
There's so many immersivedetails.
I kind of want to learn alittle bit more about
Frontierland Student Exposition.
I heard it's changed over theyears too.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Well it has.
Originally it used real bullets.
I don't know if you can imaginethat nowadays right, I cannot.
No.
Maintenance was a nightmare.
They had to repaint the targetsevery night and then it
switched to the use of infraredlights, but interestingly enough
it is no longer.
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I don't know about Disneyland,but they took it.
They actually removed itrecently at Magic Kingdom.
Magic Kingdom it no longerexists there, so I don't know
what they're going to put thereinstead.
I haven't heard anything, butit's no longer there.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well, I know we're going to be talking about food
in a later segment a little bit,but Is there anything snack
related that we should keep inmind before we have that
official segment?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yes, well, at Rancho there's Rancho del Zocalo.
It was used to be called Casade Fritos because, you know, at
the beginning Disney didn't wantto deal with food, and so he
partnered with different foodvendors to do the food.
So Frito Company was one ofthem, but interestingly, one of
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the workers noticed unusedtortillas being tossed out at
the end of the day, so hesuggested frying and seasoning
them, and the result is Doritos.
That's right, doritos were bornat Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Shut the Frontierland door.
I don't really.
That is wild.
Okay, now I have to ask do youhave a favorite Doritos flavor?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Probably Cool Ranch.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Okay, me too.
That's my favorite as well.
I just love the zestiness thatit brings, okay, okay, well,
friends, we're going to keep thezestiness going because I
definitely want to circle back alittle bit to Big Thunder,
because you've got so much greattrivia.
So what's the story behind thename of Big Thunder Mountain?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well, so the name comes from the mine train
through Nature's Wonderland.
So there were two waterfalls inthat original ride Big Thunder
and Little Thunder.
Original ride Big Thunder andLittle Thunder.
So when the new coasterreplaced the Mine Train, disney
decided to honor those names.
As you know, with most newrides there's some sort of a nod
or a reminder of the ride thatused to be there.
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So they keep that in play, whichI love.
That about them.
I mean they honor that and youcan still spot some of the old
rides infrastructure if you knowwhere to look.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well, I mean, I feel like if there's anybody who
knows where to look, it is you.
So maybe if you don't minddropping just a couple more,
just a couple more little thingsfor folks to look at next time
that they go to the parks ontheir own where they can
research.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Well, there's a tiny sign in the Big Thunder Q,
signed by Willard P Bounds, whois Lillian Disney's father.
Ah Okay, and we already talkedabout, you know, looking for the
horseshoe at the final lift.
So I know about to look forthat one and I think those are.
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Those are some of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Those little details.
And then the fact that when youpush the plungers again, our
Thunder Mountain in MagicKingdom is still closed for
refurbishment.
So I'm just hopeful that theplungers causing the explosions
will come back when they reopen.
But we will see.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Okay, so we've got a lot of fun to take in store.
See, okay, so we've got.
We've got a lot of fun to takein store.
Do we know when, potentially,we're going to be seeing it
reopen the attraction, or it'skind of still a little bit under
hush?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
well, I mean from the disney chat sites, um, that I
think that thought is next, nextyear, so I don't think it's
supposed to be until 2026.
But that that I could you know,we will see.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
That is not official Disney will do what Disney does
exactly, and we will find outwhen everybody else does as well
.
But until then, I have to sayagain, I want to thank you
because really, not only am Ilooking forward to the fact that
you have hosted all of thesereally fun in-person events
where you do bring a lot of thattheming to each individual
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event, but also because youreally do have such an
incredible love for all thingsDisney World that I think that
sharing in that experience withyou always gives me a little bit
of a lift, a little pep for mystuff as well.
So thanks for joining us.
I love the tour.
Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I am really excited about our upcoming event.
You know we had looked at somedifferent options and I think we
are going to stick with meetingat the Coronado Resort because
it just is the easiest and, as aside note, because of that, if
there are people who need to runsome longer miles, there are
some options for that.
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So, just you know, you can sendme a message in the event page
If you're.
If you are needing more milesor anything like that, there are
definitely easier options fromthat location.
So that's one of the reasonswe're sticking with that one.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Perfect, and I think it also has a little bit of a
Southwestern flair, so we'll beable to have a bit of that
adventure as well.
So, friends, join us on theFacebook page.
It has all of the eventinformation there, all the
details, and you can alsocommunicate with Lynn through
our event chat to get anyadditional details or any
questions that you may have.
With that said, thank you somuch for joining me, lynn,
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you're welcome.
All right, friends.
Up next we have Sally, and herand I are going to crack open
the vault of Disney's Westernmovie magic.
So don't go galloping off justyet Now.
You all know that I love a goodride through Frontierland, but
I also love curling up with aWestern that brings the dust,
the drama and the Disney magicright into my living room.
And joining me today for thecinematic roundup is our trivia
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queen and host of ExtraordinaryLeague's Movie Nights and, of
course, disney aficionado, sallyWyatt.
Sally, welcome back to the pod.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Howdy Christine.
I've been chomping at the bitto talk about all these films.
Disney has such a unique way ofputting heart and humor into
even the most dustiest ofWesterns.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Friends and she's not kidding, she has done so much
research.
She sent me a bunch of textswith things that she had found
because I was like I don't knowthat we're going to be able to
really do a lot with the movieaspect of it.
She's like oh wait, hold on tomy cowboy hat because I got you
girl.
So I love that Disney doesn'tjust recreate the West, they
reimagine it through folkloreand family and some serious
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frontier flair.
I want to kick things off, ifthat's okay.
Sally, I know you did a lot ofthe like bulk of the work of
this, but I think right out ofthe gate there's that davy
crockett, king of the wildfrontier, and that is the film
that of course launched, I mean,a whole big fashion, um style
of having those hats, those capswith, like the little raccoon
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tail yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I mean faz parker, as dave crocker was the original
frontier influencer this filmhad was a compilation of
episodes from the tv series thatbut hit it hit the big screen
with this catchy anthem andunforgettable scenes of
crockett's exports, even at theend of them, ending at the
element which I feel like movies.
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You, if you hear an anthem to amovie or even TV shows, like
you back in the day, you caninstantly know what movie or
film, your TV show, you'retalking about 100%.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Like there is something so like I think that
whoever does the cinematicscores deserve so much credit
and accolades because there issomething super.
I mean like we could think ofall sorts of movies that like we
know it from the theme song.
So I mean I still even getchills hearing that song.
And of course we know that thatmovie sparked a merchandising
boom with hats and lunch boxes,the works and of course, um,
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this is one of my favorites.
I actually remember watchingthis.
This goes back to Floridapublic education school days
where we watched movies atschool.
But next one up is Old Yeller.
I know it's more of a frontierfamily film than a shootout
western, but this one I mean Idon't even know why they played
it in school tears, of courseyes and I.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
We just watched this recently with my kiddos, so it
definitely it's an emotional.
Old yellow is an emotional corememory material.
It's about loyalty, coming ofage and heartbreak.
It was one also one of thefirst Disney films to really
embrace that naturalisticstorytelling, and we can't
forget that there's a sequel toit called savage sam.
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That took things up a notch,with more action and a very
brave doggo and I love myself adog I know I love dog films, but
I have to ask what did yourkids think about it?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
because I mean, did they feel they were so sad.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
They were so sad.
They it's it's.
It's wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
They did that is wrong it's wrong On so many
levels If you're a bad person.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
you know it's wrong.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Oh well, we'll focus on the happy, brave doggies.
So let's talk a little bit moreabout being brave with Tonka.
This is, of course, one of thelesser known gems, but it does
pull at your heartstrings again,with a wild stallion, native
American stories and the battleof Little Bighorn all rolled
into one.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, it's like a definitely a unique one.
It tells the tale from thehorse's perspective in many ways
, showing a full arc of loyalty,hardship and survival.
And the fact that Tonka is theonly survivor from that battle,
it's like just a gut punch to me.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I mean, there's clearly a theme going on with
these Westerns.
There's some tear-jerkingthemes, there's no doubt about
it.
But okay, let's go on toTreasure of Matacombe, which I
like to call.
Disney's frontier, meets alittle bit of Goonies Adventures
, which again core memory ofGoonies.
So it's got a hidden map, atreasure quest, real scenic
filming locations.
It's just got a little bit ofeverything for me.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yes, and I totally agree, and it was shot between
locations in Florida andCalifornia and it has that blend
of mystery and humor that'slike the signature of Disney.
Young Davey and his Monty creware on the run from the Villians
, villians, villians, villiansand Hurricanes, which is
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signature for Florida.
This movie's a great rainy dayflick, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Hopefully nobody's having to watch this during the
Hurricanes, but still it isdefinitely a really good one If,
or maybe a good one after, like, you've got your morning run in
and then we've got thosethunderstorms in the afternoon
rolling in a little bit of restday afterwards.
So I like that, but of coursewe're going to keep this going.
Um, one of my favorites, theapple dumpling gang I mean Don
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Knotts and Tim Conway, peak,peak buddy comedy energy in the
old west, which I love that too.
When I think a lot of this kindof genre, there is a lot of
that friend like core tight knitcommunity that comes to mind,
be it with your dog or with anactual human friend.
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So I do love that they havethat as well.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, and those two are magic the original films it.
The original film, is just purefun and the sequel, the apple
dumplings gang rides again,brings even more hijinks.
It's slapstick gold and thechemistry between the two of
them is what made both the filmsso lovable.
And, actually, researching this, these are movies that I'm
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going to be showing my kiddoshere when they get home.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Oh, I'm so excited about that because I think that
this is kind of what keepsDisney magic going.
Like, some of these are clearlybefore like our time, but we
watched them with our family orour parents or maybe even some
grandparents, and then havingthat continue on is always
what's so exciting about thesemovies.
But you know, I know thatpeople forget about this next
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movie.
But the Bullwhip Griffin isabsolutely bonkers.
It's delightful and it's like abutler turned price fighter in
the gold rush era.
It's just a little quirky andweird and a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yes, and Roddy McDonald gave this film so much
charm.
It's one of those rare Disneywesterns that isn't about
cowboys per se but instead tellsa wacky underdog story full of
clever twists and the costumedesign.
I have to give it an A plus forthe 1860s flair.
I have to.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
As of course we've got Sally sporting her full
western gear for this recording.
My friend Again, if she'sgiving it an A+, you know that
you guys are going to get yourin for a treat.
But you know, what's crazy isthat again, as I remember
specifically as having aconversation, I was like I don't
think we're going to find a lotof movies to talk about.
And you're like, again, holdlot of movies to talk about.
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And you're like, again, hold onto my cowboy hat.
I'm shocked there's so many,but this next one is the Sign of
Zorro.
It's such a classic.
Guy Williams is iconic as DonDiego.
The film was cut together fromthe original TV series that
Disney had and it gave audiencesdashing little swashbuckling
hero who fought injustice withrepair and a little bit of a
wink, which I love, that it'skind of it's got a nod for like
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the adults, like there's alittle bit of like witty humor
and dialogue that the adults canget, but the kids will just
love like the aspect of theaction, of it all yes, and I
agree.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I always say zoro was like the disney's original cape
.
Consider like I know everyonelikes them Superman and other
ones but I'm always a fan ofZorro and the score play the
sword play.
It was absolutely fantastic.
It still holds up.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Um, it's, it's a hidden gem, I have to say now
tell me a little bit more aboutum Scandalous John.
I think that's a new one thatI've not really heard a lot
about, but I know that youuncovered quite a bit of details
with these hidden gems, so tellme more about that one.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, this one's like I didn't even really hear about
till researching.
It's a really hidden gem.
Don Quijote reimagined as agrumpy old rancher, played by
Brian Keith, he's out to reclaimjustice.
One fantastic misadventure at atime.
Accompanied by his faithfulsquare, paco, it's offbeat,
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whimsical and surprisinglyheartfelt.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
So what I think we're getting a theme of is these
Westerns have like a little bitof like this, like rascally
energy that kind of reallyenergizes and brings a lot of
humor.
There's a lot of likewholesomeness, but still a lot
of fun aspects to it.
So, yeah, I think it's supercute.
I love that they reimagine likesuch a classic tale.
It's also one of those likewait, what did I just watch
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movies in the best possible way.
So next up is Return to SnowyRiver.
Ok, now you guys are going tohave to bear with me.
It's not technically theAmerican West, I got you.
I know you guys are all goingto come at me but it's got that
rugged pioneer spirit and it'sset in the Australian frontier,
which, of course, since I'mgoing to Sydney soon, I'm
excited about that.
So I think Return to SnowyRiver should have at least a
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little star here as somethingthat people should watch into.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I mean, we had to throw something in that's
Australian.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Like it'd be the world.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
it'd be not with the World Marathon.
Major, yeah, it has gorgeouslandscape, is dramatic,
horsemanship, sweeping score.
It's like the man from SnowyRiver took everything good from
the first film and dialed it up.
Bruce Ronhout's music wonawards and honestly it makes me
want to get out and gallop on ahorse.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
See, I'm telling you friends, which of course I'm
going to, I'm going to go aheadand drop in that, while I'm not
necessarily a cinematographer,musical score genius, that that
we do have a soundtrack for theWild West Strides playlist you
guys can check out.
Um, but of course, speaking ofgalloping, the castaway cowboy
James Gardner ends up on aHawaiian island and teaches
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cattle ranching.
It makes me just giggle so muchI know it's, it's, exactly it's
, it's.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
It's the wild west with a tropical twist, a fish
out water story.
That low stakes and totallycharming garner is effortlessly
likable and it shows how disneyisn't afraid to stretch out the
boundaries of the genre yeah, Imean again, they literally
there's just so many hits.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I mean we're going to keep them coming, friends.
So you guys, I hope that I knowyou're maybe out for a run, and
if you don't have this entirelist, don't worry, we could
always send it your way.
Just shoot us a message,because there's another one that
defies expectations.
The miracle of the whitestallions are now.
Okay, we're in Vienna is duringWorld War Two, but it's all
about saving the Lippins innerhorses.
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So I think horses.
I automatically think Westernas well.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yes, it's it.
You can't have a Westernwithout a horse, I mean and this
was a true story too.
So, colonel, I'm going tobutcher this name.
I apologize, pod.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I'm going to say it's just Colonel.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Please don't take offense to whoever is.
Relatives of this person Riskeverything to rescue those
horses.
It's elegant, dramatic andemotional salute to both human
and animal residencies, to bothhuman and animal residencies,
and if you love historicaldramas with a Western agile feel
, this one is definitely worthrevisiting.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I think again that's what's so great about this genre
is there's some humor, there'sa lot of human Ironically
there's a lot of human emotionelement, specifically with the
animals, so that one'sdefinitely a top of the list for
me.
Now let's talk a little bitabout hot lead and cold feet.
I mean the title alone.
On that one, I'm, I'm just.
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I have so many visions cominginto my head just from that
title I know I absolutely lovethe title of the movie.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
This one is a comedy chaos in the wild west west.
This has jim dale in it, whoplays twin brothers one's a
preacher and the other one's agunfighter vying for their
inheritance.
Don knots plays the sheriff,and he's hilarious in it.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
It's goofy and over the top in the most delightful
way okay, seriously, that onedoes sound like it needs to go
to the top of the list.
That sounds just like a good,hearty family watch for sure.
And speaking of thatfamily-friendly fun, of course
there's the great locomotivechase.
Now, this one's more adventurethan comedy, but it's still one
of Disney's best historicaldramas.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yes, and it has best Parker again in this.
He stars in this true crime ortrue Civil War story about Union
spies trying to sabotage aConfederate train, hits
suspenseful grounded and bringsreal history to life in a way
that only Disney could.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Okay.
And then, finally, as we startto round this up, let's give a
shout out to Don Carter, because, yes, it's a little sci-fi, but
there's no denying that itfeels like a space Western.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, like 100%.
I mean, I remember watchingthis and when you initially
think of it you see the aliensand stuff.
You don't think of it.
But if you look at it.
It has a Confederate soldier init.
He gets teleported to Mars.
He joins a Revan, rides alienbeasts.
It's like a classic western ina new galaxy.
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It was ahead of its time, butit's finally getting the
appreciation it finally deserves.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
It's giving me a little bit of space aliens meet
Star Wars.
It feels a little bit likethere's a little hodgepodge of
all of the genres that cometogether, but of course it's
still absolutely a must watch.
So, friends, while we havereached the end of our cinematic
roundup, if you're stilllooking to leave the relive the
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West and all it's Disney fiveglory, you have definitely got
plenty of options.
So queue up that Disney pluschannel.
We're going to link the fulllist in the episode notes.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah.
So pick a movie, start it, pairthe film with a themed snack,
throw on those boots and rideinto the sunset from your
stallion called the couch.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Exactly.
I'm going to definitely takeoff my cowboy boots for that,
though, but I will wear mycowboy hat, sally, thank you
again for taking us on thisincredible ride through the wild
, wacky and, of course,wonderful Westerns of Disney.
And to all of our listenersdon't go anywhere.
We've still got food, costumesand more coming up with Kimba
Watson right after this.
Friends, we have gallopedthrough the frontier and we have
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cantered past the cinematicWest, and now it's time to
refuel, of course, western style.
I'm so excited to welcome oneof my favorite foodies and
fabulous runners, kimbo Watson.
Kimbo, welcome to the pod again.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Thank you, christine.
I'm ready to dig into thedelicious side of the Disney
frontier If there's a cornbreadcrumb or cowboy fry worth
knowing about.
I've tasted it.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Again, 100%.
I believe that that's why welove you.
Let's start where it all began,though Of course, let's take it
all the way to Disneyland inAnaheim.
What's cooking over inFrontierland these days?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Oh plenty.
Let's talk about the GoldenHorseshoe Saloon first.
Not only is it packed with showtunes and Western flair, but
it's also serving up crispychicken tenders, my favorite
hearty wraps, and my otherpersonal favorite, the Roy
Rogers sandwich.
It's like dining in a livestage show, so fun.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Wait, are you a chicken tender kind of gal?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I am I am I all the chicken tenders from all the
places?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
And yeah, we'll have to do it, we'll have to do a
personal Kimba ranking of allthe chicken tenders and then
sauces too.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
We got to have the sauces to go with, OK, so that
sounds exciting.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Well, in the meantime , we'll also check out those
cowboy fries, because I thinkthey've got them over there as
well.
They're loaded up with nachobeef cheese and pickles, which
sounds a little weird to me.
I guess it's like acheeseburger meets a French fry
in the best possible way.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yeah, that sounds really good.
And then exactly just acrossthe way is the Hungry Bear
Barbecue Jamboree, which used tobe tucked into Frontierland but
now borders Bayou Country.
To frontier land but nowborders bayou country.
It's a double-decker rusticparadise where you can grab
smoked meats, tangy barbecuesauce and sides.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
It screams summer picnic which I love a summer
picnic, so fun yeah, actuallyall of that.
Now we're definitely up myalley right here.
Well, let's go ahead and hop onover, just take a little plane
trip back over to magic kingdomand walt disney world.
What are we mentioning on overhere?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
um, my favorite is going to be Pico's Bill's Tall
Tale Inn and is the place to be.
It's a Tex-Mex haven withloaded nachos, tacos, Southwest
burgers.
The topping bar is my absolutefavorite.
So fun it's like you can almostmake a whole meal out of the
topping bar itself and just putanything you think of that needs
to go on nachos or tacos oryour burgers.
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They have it at that bar.
It is legendary.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I think people sleep on the Picos too.
I think it's like the perfectlittle spot, like just dip in
real quick Plus.
It's so nice in there, likethere's so many different places
to sit, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
I'm a big fan of it as well.
And then, yeah, with the nachos, you can always split them with
someone too, which is afantastic split snack if you
want something just to snack on.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
See, kimba, that goes to show just how amazing you
are, that you're willing tosplit your snacks with the
people around you.
Cause.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I mean sometimes sometimes.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Well, I've also seen that folks that camp out for the
fried green tomato sandwichover at golden oak outpost.
I've not tried it yet have you.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Oh my gosh, it's worth it.
I love a good fried greentomato sandwich and it's served
with this zesty sauce.
It's a southern bite with adisney twist, and golden oak
itself has other gems likechicken sandwiches and, on a hot
day, refreshing frozen drinksthat'll cool you down faster
than a breeze on Big.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Thunder Trail.
We're all needing thoserefreshing frozen drinks right
about now.
Oh yes, so let's say we'regoing to head over to the
Diamond Horseshoe and WestwardHo.
Tell me a little bit more aboutthese two locations.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Those two bring the sit-down saloon experience At
Diamond Horseshoe think roastbeef, turkey platters and again,
cornbread muffins big enough toshare.
Westward Ho is more of agrab-and-go, but you'll find
classics like Corn Dogs andMickey Pretzels.
It's small but mighty.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Oh, my goodness.
Okay, so I feel like we havejust started to scratch the
surface of all the deliciousnesshere in Magic Kingdom, but
let's go ahead and jump on thatjumbo jet and head over to Tokyo
.
Western Land's dining game isstrong too, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
It's really strong.
Cowboy Cookhouse is their starplayer Barbecue chicken ribs and
delicious smoked sausage combos.
And of course, they also havetheir own version of Pico's Bill
Cafe and the Diamond Horseshoe,where the theming is next level
and the meals are hearty.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I mean, I think we should get our visa stamped so
we could head over there and getsome of these meals.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
But I also want to go to Paris as well.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I've heard nothing but rave reviews about Thunder
Mesa.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Yeah, Thunder Mesa's Cowboy Cookout Barbecue is a
feast and a show.
Live country music, halfchicken with seasoned potatoes
and bacon cheeseburgers that area chef's kiss.
The Lucky Nugget Saloon offersshow dining with family style
meals, and for steak lovers,Silver Spur Steakhouse is a must
.
Open flame cooking in a WesternLodge setting.
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Yes please.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I mean, I think all these places sound a whole lot
of fun.
There's no doubt about it, andI love that even they have
burrito and quesadilla spotslike Fuente del Oro and Last
Chance Cafe.
It's like every corner ofFrontierland delivers a
different regional take oncowboy cuisine.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Absolutely.
From churros near the horseshoeto cinnamon rolls at Pico
Bill's Frontierland is whereyour hunger rides off into the
sunset, completely satisfied.
If you're not full when youleave there, then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
You did it the wrong way Exactly.
I can tell you my stomach isnot full right now.
My stomach's growling Kimba.
I feel like I want to go dinein all of these locations, but I
want to say thank you forgalloping through the Disney
parks and giving us thisculinary roundup.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Anytime, christine, but don't untie those laces just
yet.
We've still got fun costumes totalk about, because what's a
themed run without the perfectcostume?
Speaker 1 (42:40):
And honestly, kimba, I don't know like what you would
be like if we were to have torate, like, what does Kimba know
more about?
Like where the fun places toget snacks and drinks are at the
parks or costuming.
I feel like, girl, these areyour wheelhouse, so you tell you
tell me what?
What should we, what should webe prepared for this run?
Speaker 4 (42:59):
Um, actually, the wild West is full of lots of
inspiration.
Whether you're going rugged,refined or a little ridiculous,
there's something for everyone.
So what?
Speaker 1 (43:10):
should we yeah, I was going to say well, so what?
What should we potentiallyprepare for?
Speaker 4 (43:15):
Uh well, we've got cowboy or cowgirl runner.
You could pair running shortsor leggings with a lightweight,
moisture wicking plaid shirt.
Top it off with a breathablecowboy hat or a headband
designed to look like a bandana.
Don't forget your fauxsheriff's badge for extra
authenticity, also with thebandana.
Don't forget your fauxsheriff's badge for extra
authenticity, also with thebandana.
Don't forget all that sparkle.
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If you want to add any funsparkle to it, bedazzle it.
I mean, come on A rhinestonecowboy, yes, please.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
I think Lynn may have actually tackled this number
one, and she may have had aspecial pair of leggings that
looked a little bit more cowboy,cowgirl-y too.
So I think again, you guys, youknow all of the different
things to tackle what else couldwe wear if maybe we aren't
gonna?
Speaker 4 (43:57):
go that route Also.
There's the Pioneer Runner.
You can opt for a simple bonnetor straw hat and match it with
a lightweight, flowy blouse andskirt made from performance
fabric.
Add a running-friendly apronwith pockets to stash those
energy gels or snacks.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Okay, anything that allows us to have more snacks as
part of our running gear, I amdefinitely down with that one.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
And then we also have the Sheriff Runner Sport black
or brown running shorts, a techfabric shirt resembling a
sheriff's uniform, and add asheriff's star pen securely.
Consider wrist cuffs thatresemble old old tiny cuffs for
a finishing touch.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
That might be interesting to run with, and I
mean I definitely have seen someviolations on the race course a
couple of times or two, somaybe they would come in handy.
I'm kind of digging maybe thatsaloon server runner trying like
a.
There's so many great companiesthat make a lot of like these
corset inspired running tanksthat you can find Pairing those
with running shorts or a skirtand adding a small lightweight
apron again to carry a tray,maybe from foam, Even though
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we've seen some folks that runDisney who have carried full on
like balancing acts of trays?
Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yeah, absolutely, I don't know.
I also think, yeah, I alsothink a fun feather like out,
like with a little headband,would be super cute too.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Like a little fascinator.
Oh, I dig it, Okay.
Okay, I'm literally I dig itand I can dig some gold also as
a gold prospector runner.
So maybe again making sure thatwe're being conscious of some
like sweat wicking fabrics.
But you could wear some moreearth tones, maybe get some
suspenders over your runningshorts, accessorize with a faux
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beard, a little lightweightminer's hat, or maybe some of
the runners actually alreadyhave like a full on beard this
might be their costume and Iwould say, consider like a
little mini pan or foam goldnuggets, or maybe even like that
miner's hat with a little light, which could also come in handy
depending what time of dayfolks are running.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
That would be really fun too.
I like that one Very creative.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
And I think that this next one, kimba, I would say
that this one should go alongwith your official sheriff
runner.
We should have an outlaw banditrunner.
So I think, like people thatare looking for costumes or they
want to go running with theirbesties.
So again, this was a little biteasier.
I'm thinking kind of JesseJames, a little bit rough and
tumble.
Outlaw look, maybe again thattech fabric bandana, maybe not
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as sparkly, though I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
I don't know if I feel like that sparkly with this
one.
Also, I think it would be funto get like a bag and put like a
money sign on it or something.
Like you just left the bankwith the money and you're
running and then the sheriff'srunning after you.
You have a friend with thesheriff costume on that would be
the sheriff.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I hope somebody does tackle this.
I want to see this.
I feel like this would be asuper fun costume for couples
for sure.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
What else do?
Speaker 1 (46:39):
you have in mind Kimba, Because I feel like you
have just started to scratch thesurface.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
We've got the rodeo rider runner.
You can combine running tightsor shorts with faux chaps
crafted from breathable fabric.
Add a brightly colored runningtop and accessorize with a
lightweight cowboy hat andgloves to complete your rodeo
persona.
And this one, I think would befun if you could get somebody to
dress like a cow or something.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, oh, my goodness , and I feel like if we're going
to go rodeo, I think this islike where the sparkles can
totally a hundred percent headto toe.
Yes, truly, oh, okay, I dig.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
that is your rhinestone cowboy right there
the rodeo oh, I love it and thenfinally, too, another one, I
think, where you can use a lotof rhinestones and fun stuff is
going to be that western moviehero runner right, you're here.
Channel the.
You can also channel iconiccharacters like woody from toy
story or Jesse the Lone Rangerwith running gear customized to
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reflect these famous Westernheroes, including themed shirts,
hats and accessories.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I mean, I think, right here, like for a run
Disney race, woody and Jesse isabout as good as it gets.
So I love that ability and,again, tons of places on the
interwebs for folks to findthese or even borrow some of,
like their kids costumeaccessories.
I think it's always somethingthat I find that people neglect
to dip into.
I'm totally obsessed with thesebecause I think that this is a
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whole lot of fun, and I thinkthat for this specific race, I
might be even more excited thanall the others because I think
there's just so many fun theming.
So I want to thank you so muchfor lending us all of your
expertise because, kimba, I'mnot kidding you Like, you take
it to the next level.
I'm a little curious if you'rewilling to share, what would you
potentially dress up as?
Are you going to tell us?
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Are you going to give us alittle bit preview here, or
we're just going to have to waitfor the socials?
Um, I mean lately, I don't knowit's, it's pink pony, pink pony
you know.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
So the pink, okay, okay, yeah, I'm digging that.
Okay, I can't wait to see thaton the sparkle and pink and
rhinestones.
Maybe we'll see.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
I love it well.
Thank you again so much forcoming on board and giving us
all of your knowledge and maybea little hint or two as to what
we're going to see Kimbasporting on her costume.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Again, thanks for having me, Christine.
Let's get out there and makethe wildest run in the West the
most stylish one too, Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
And friends.
That wraps up this rip androaring, root and tootin'
episode of Extraordinary Strides.
A big old thank you to ourincredible guests.
I couldn't do it without youLynn Kenney for guiding us
through the history and hiddengems of Frontierland.
Sally for rounding up thosebest Disney Westerns this side
of Mississippi.
And Kimba Watson for, of course, keeping us stylish and well
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fed with all the best bites andcostumes from the trail.
And to you, our very amazing,extraordinary runners, thank you
for joining us through thiswildest run in the West.
Whether you're walking throughthose dusty trails, racing
through Thundermessa orstrutting your cowboy best on
the treadmill, we are here forevery single step of it.
Remember, the fun continues allweekend long in our podcast
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Facebook group, so don't missout.
We've got games, themedchallenges and the chance to
show off your costumes andmedals, virtual or otherwise.
So grab that bandana, fill upyour water bottle and ride off
into the virtual sunset with us.
Until next time, keep stridingwith heart, grit and just a
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whole lot of bit of yeehawspirit.
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