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January 6, 2025 32 mins

What if the challenges we face are not just obstacles, but stepping stones to a more fulfilling life? Tune in to explore how spiritual maturity can transform your perspective on adversity. We unpack the journey of overcoming past wounds, like "church hurt," and maintaining a mature outlook on life’s trials. By reflecting on the stories of biblical figures such as Moses and the Apostle Paul, discover how reframing your mindset can turn suffering into opportunities for growth.

Our conversation takes you through the compelling narratives of Moses, plagued by self-doubt, and Paul, who found peace amidst imprisonment. Their stories help us see that our greatest struggles often lead to our most profound growth. With insights from passages like Romans 8:28 and James 1:2-4, we highlight how trusting in God’s sovereignty can transform trials into moments ripe for sharing faith. The real battle often lies within our minds, and shifting our perspective can illuminate the path toward spiritual and personal development.

Lastly, we delve into how embracing trials can serve as a catalyst for spreading faith, even when facing rejection or discomfort. Just as certain birds nudge their young to fly by creating discomfort, sometimes challenges are God's way of urging us into action. Through this lens, obstacles become powerful tools for building endurance and spiritual resilience. We conclude with an invitation to deepen your relationship with God, trusting in His timing and wisdom as you step into your divine calling. Join us to find out how viewing life’s challenges with a reframed perspective can lead to profound growth and fulfillment.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What is up?
Faith and Failures community.
It is a new year, so we'regoing to talk a little bit about
something today that I think iskey to having a successful year
not only having a successfulyear this year, but also maybe

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working out the kinks of whatdidn't go wrong or what didn't
go so right in the year that wejust went through.
So one thing we will learn andyou will listen over and over
and over and over again, and Isay that we need to be more
mature.
So, talking biblically, talkingchurch wise, talking
spiritually, we need to bespiritually mature.

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I sing this to my church almostevery Sunday because we have a
lot of immaturity in the houseof God, which leads to bad
decisions, leads to suffering,leads to pain, leads to drama,
leads to hurt and how many ofyou know, church hurt can be
some of the worst hurt, and thecuts are so deep that we may

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feel like we never can heal fromthem.
So, as we go through thisepisode today, I want you to
think about.
What have you allowed to stayin your life?
How has your perception of lifebeen skewed, damaged and even
manipulated from pastexperiences?

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So stick around.
Today we're going to talk abouthow to reframe your life.
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Now let's get into the video.
All right, thank you so muchfor sticking around, so let's go

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ahead and kick it off with akey verse today.
So we want to talk about, so wewant to come from Philippians 1
, verses 12, 13, and 14.
So let's start from thebeginning, and I want you to
know, my dear brothers andsisters, that everything that
has happened to me gospel ofJesus Christ, the good news of

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his birth, resurrection andsalvation For everyone here,
including the whole palace guardknows that I am in chains
because of Christ, so he'ssaying that I am going through
some junk and he's not having apity party.

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He's actually reframing it andlooking at it from a different
perspective.
So we're going to talk aboutperspective change today, so
stick with me.
I haven't changed because ofChrist and because of my
imprisonment.
Most of the believers here havegained confidence and boldly
speak God's message without fear.

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We get drilled hard if anyChristian retaliates when
something comes against them.
So, for instance, when I was akid or a teenager and someone

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said something and I hadsomething to come back to say,
or I stood up for myself, andthen what's the immediate
response?
Well, I thought you was aChristian, or I've told my
church this the last couple ofSundays or two Sundays ago, then
maybe people don't payattention to you when

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everything's going good, butthey will sure start watching
you when things begin to go bad.
And so the way we look atthings as believers, the way we
see things, the way we look atour trials, our tribulations,
our bad seasons, is equally manmy tongue is tied today equally
as important as how we maintainour faith in the good times,

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because, how many of you know,it is a lot harder to for some
people to remain faithful wheneverything's going good.
Most people come to God whenthings are bad, when they have
trouble, when they have issues,when they have trials.
So we must maintain alevel-headed, spiritually mature

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attitude towards Christ,towards our salvation, towards
his sacrifice, but also towardsour trials.
This is one thing that if wecan get this as people of God,
if we can harness the power ofour suffering I know that sounds
terrible, it's like man.

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I don't want to go to churchand be a Christian if I'm going
to suffer.
But you are guaranteed tosuffer whether you are with
Christ or whether you are not.
So I would rather do it withChrist and I hope that you are
the same.
So the title of today's messageis Reframe it.

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So we are going to be lookingat how we can rewire, even
rebrand, the bad stuff in ourlives.
Like, probably somewhere alongthe way in the year 2024, you
had a spot, you had a problem,you had a season, you had a
something, somebody died, youbroke up with somebody, maybe

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you got a divorce, maybe yourkids left the house and now
you're empty nesters and you'rehaving to relearn all of that.
Or maybe they came back and youthought you finally made it to
empty nester status and youdidn't.
It's just now you're having toreparent over again, or maybe
they have kids and it's just.
It's this crazy, chaotic worldthat you thought was gone and
now it's back in your life.

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Maybe you had uh we mentionedthat a minute ago church hurt.
Maybe you've had some serioushurt in a church and now you're
trying to find a way to heal anduh and start over.
None of these things arenecessarily bad, but if we are
to not just survive what happensto us but we actually thrive
and grow from it and havebenefit from the burden, have

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benefit from the pain, have acrop from the blood and the
sweat and the tears that haswent into maintaining and
working through and breakingthat ground and letting seed
grow Like there's effort, thathas to happen on our side.

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But first it starts to toreceive things well and to do it
right and to do it withouttripping up and falling up or
going back into our old ways.
We first have to realize thatthe battleground is in our mind
and that we have to thinkproperly so that we can see

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things clearly.
Okay, so let's look over inRomans.
Actually, before we go to that,before we go to that, I want to
talk to you a little bit justfor a second.
I'm going to frame this up,reframe it, frame it up.
I want you to understand thatyour life and you as a believer,

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your life is not meant to justexist.
Your life is not meant to justexist.
You are meant to reproducespiritually what God has
produced in you.
What I mean by that is so, asJesus came, and if you read the
four gospels Matthew, mark, lukeand John, jesus came, he was

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born, and when he began hisministry, after he was baptized,
after he went in the wilderness, when he was fasting and
praying, he began to pull peopleout and began to disciple them,
and to disciple them.
Now, sadly, probably, where yougo to church doesn't have really

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much of a discipleship programor thing, and I'm a pastor of a
church and I'm working on thismyself Like, how do we implement
discipleship beyond just aSunday morning service?
Like we're a church that was alittle bit smaller and now we're
getting bigger, and so theseare part of the growing pains to
figure this out.
But I believe that theseanswers are actually in the
Bible and one major thing ofthat is to spend time with each

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other, and so if you come to achurch and you only are in
contact with the church peopleat church, you will never get
the fullness that God designedfor the body of believers.
You won't be able to live thatfull life, and I understand

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being a loner, not wanting to bea part of people, but you can
be a part of people's lives andnot have them branch over into
your business and your stuff.
You can still do things and bea part of things, your business
and your stuff.
Like you can still do thingsand be a part of things.
And whether it's theconditioning of your past that

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things happened to you that madeyou not want to be a part of
anybody else's life and made youwant to pull away, made you
want to make, makes you want tonot get plugged in, maybe
because you were hurt, thepeople where you are now is not
the people that hurt you.
The people where you are now isnot the people that hurt you.
The people where you are now isnot the people that left you.
The people where you are now isnot the people that that did
you wrong and left you hangingand and just to fend for

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yourself.
So I had to learn this in my inmy marriage, my, my second
marriage because everything thatshe would do in the beginning
of our marriage it reminded meof the things that I was hurt
from in my first marriage andshe wasn't doing those things.
It was that it kind ofresembled and it just triggered

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me in some way because I wasn'tactually healed.
Now see, when we say we'rehealed or we're forgiven, you
won't have the same trigger.
I'm going to stop for a second.
You won't have.
The trigger will not be thereif you've actually forgiven them
.
Now you can recognize and seeoh yeah, I remember that, but

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the trigger will not be there ifyou have fully forgiven them.
You can't be triggered.
If you have forgiveness in yourheart and now you see them with
compassion, whatever they do toyou around you, it won't trigger
you because those chains havefallen off.
And the only way those chainsstay off is that if you continue

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to live in forgiveness and notjustify your unforgiveness and
your crappy behavior or yourattitude, because easily our
life can pull us down in theslumps, pull us down to where we
are bitter, we are angry, weare mad.
It could be at people, it couldbe at circumstances, it could

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be even at God, but God is notscared of your attitude, he's
not scared of your questions,he's not scared of you screaming
at Him.
He's not scared of you askingwhy, god?
How could you let this happen?
Because I believe in thesetimes that we're real and we're
raw with God, those are thetimes he desires to show up and
show Himself to us.

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I've been told in the churchbefore I don't preach this way
or teach this way or lead thisway.
But I've been told like, oh,don't ask those questions, those
aren't godly questions.
And I completely disagree.
I was reading this morning ofMoses and the dude would not
listen when God told him to dosomething.
He constantly complained andsaid of how good he was not, and

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he always had a reason why Godcouldn't use him the way God was
trying to use him.
How many of us do the samething All the time?
So the Apostle Paul, a manwhose life was a series of
unpredictable events the dudecould have had his own movie, he
could have had his own reality.
He could have had his ownreality TV show, nailed it, but

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it was always unpredicting, likealways in trouble, always in
prison, always issue after issueafter issue.
But he still had peace, hestill had joy, still had peace,
he still had joy.
And he gave us this profoundinsight to the key ingredient to
being truly content, and thatis your perspective Perspective.

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He teaches us an invaluablelesson you cannot control what
happens to you, but you cancontrol how you frame it.
You can't control how you seeit.
So Paul's journey to Rome, inActs, paul had a vision Acts 23,

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verse 11, to take the gospel toRome, the epicenter of
political power and culturalinfluence in this time.
So imagine the impact hethought of sharing Jesus with
the leaders of the known world.
Imagine, because he was theopposite.
He was the one seeking outthese Christians.

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Now he was one of them.
Yet Paul finally arrived inRome.
It wasn't as a celebratedpreacher, but as a prisoner,
chained, awaiting trial andpossibly execution.
His reality was far from whathe had envisioned.
I really don't.
I mean, sometimes you're like,well, this is kind of the way it

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had to be, but I don't thinkPaul really looked at what it
had to be.
I think he was just seeing whatit was as an opportunity to do
what God called him to do.
And so in our key textPhilippians 1, 12-14, we see the
essence of this reframedprinciple.

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Despite his chains, paul sawhis situation not as a setback
but a set up for the gospel toadvance in ways that he had
never imagined and that wouldchange churches forever.
Every guard chained to himbecame an audience to the gospel
of Jesus Christ.

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Paul didn't control hiscircumstances, but he could
control his perspective.
Control his circumstances, buthe could control his perspective
.
And when you begin to realizethat the dark place you are in
right now isn't a place of beingabandoned by the Father, but it
is a place for you to shine thelight of the gospel into the
darkness, now you may seenothing but darkness around you.

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You may feel the weight of lifeon top of you, no light in
sight.
You feel that life has buriedyou alive.
But you have not been buriedand forgotten.
You have been planted.
So let's look at some morescripture to echo this principle
.
Okay, romans, chapter 8, verse28.

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And we know that God causeseverything to work together for
the good of those who love Godand are called according to His
purpose for them.
Even in our darkest moments,god is weaving our stories for
our good and his glory.
See, here's something that Ipreach to my people all the time

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, and I hope that youinternalize this as I share it
with you.
I'm pretty sure I've said it onthis podcast before, but I want
you to let this seed take rootin your heart is that if your
life belongs to God, thenwhatever he allows to happen and
whatever he allows you to gothrough trials, tribulations,

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stress, trouble, drama that youare not causing.
Now come on somebody.
You can cause some seriousdrama and sometimes you're like
God I don't know what happenedor Lord, why are you making me
go through this?
And he's just looking at youlike that wasn't me, bro.
So use your brain.
Is it you or God allowing youto go through some things?
There is a massive difference.

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One, you will always mess upand it will be a disaster.
The other, it is working foryour good.
I guess, even if we're stupid,god still works it for our good,
because I've done a lot ofstupid and God has worked it for
my good.
What I'm saying is don't blameGod or question God about things
you're causing.
Be self-aware.
You know what I mean, sounderstand.

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If your life belongs to God,then you should be living like
it, no matter what happens, godis working it for your good.
When you are being obedient,you are loved and you are called
according to his purpose, sotrust in God's sovereignty.

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When you finally begin tounderstand the mighty power of
God, you begin to step back andlet the good Lord do what only
he can do.
Let's look over in James 1, 2through 4.
It says, dear brothers andsisters, when troubles of any

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kind come your way, consider itan opportunity for great joy,
for you know that when yourfaith is tested, your endurance
has a chance to grow.
Now think about this and letthis sink in.
Trials aren't just obstacles,they are opportunities.

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They're opportunities to growyour faith, and they are
opportunities to grow your faithand they are opportunities to
grow your endurance.
Look at every obstacle that yougo through, for let's give a
simple example a flat tire whereyou have to get your oil
changed.
Like it's that time, dang it.
I gotta go get this done.
Okay, when was the last time, asa believer, if you don't know

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god, just turn it off, changethe channel, whatever you want
to do.
But if you are a believer,listen to me.
When was the last time?
As a believer, if you don'tknow God, turn it off, change
the channel, whatever you wantto do, but if you are a believer
, listen to me.
When was the last time you hadto do something that you really
didn't want to do because it wasinconvenient, but you were
looking for an opportunityanyways to share the gospel.
When was the last time you saidto God Lord, I'm really

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inconvenienced right now, but ifyou have a plan that I'm not
seeing, would you reveal it tome and let it be known so that I
know how to step, know how tospeak, know how to walk this out
?
Because I guarantee you that ifyou are submissive to God's
authority and you are sensitiveto his spirit, there are things

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in your life that you're goingto come into that you normally
would be inconvenienced by.
But then you realize, wait aminute, this is not an
inconvenience, this is not aspot where I'm just going to be
miserable and cry about it.
This is actually something Godhas set up for me to do.
If we begin to look at it thatway and that is our perspective
we begin to see life differently.

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We begin to see obstaclesdifferently, we begin to see
trials and tribulationsdifferently.
All of a sudden, the peoplewe're chained to now we're going
to share the gospel with themand they're going to want to
rotate out because they aren'tliking what they're hearing, but
that's okay.
Aren't liking what they'rehearing, but that's okay.

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I would rather share the gospelwith 20 people and one person
receives it and the rest hate me, than to shut my mouth and not
say anything for fear thatpeople may not like me.
So trials aren't just obstacles, they're opportunities.
Let every obstacle be anopportunity to show Christ, even
when you don't agree with howthings are going.

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If you don't like how it feels,know that God knows more than
you and can see things you can't.
I'll let that sit there for asecond.
God knows more than you.
He knows more than me.
He saw, he knew you before youwere ever even in your mother's

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womb, before your parents evenmet.
He set things apart and putthings in motion so that where
you are right now is where hehas you for a purpose and a
season, has you for a purposeand a season for you to not only
do what he's called you to do,to be used in the purpose that

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he has planted in you, in yourheart long ago, but to also grow
from where you are.
A rubber band is useless untilit stretches.
A person remains weak untilthere is resistance to lift.
So embrace the resistance,embrace the stretching, embrace

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the trials, because, as Jamessaid again we'll read it again
Definitely worth repeating.
Write this down, Matter of fact.
I'll put it back on your screenfor you so you can take a
screenshot, or whatever you wantto do with it.
Dear brothers and sisters, whentroubles of any kind come your
way, consider it an opportunityfor great joy, for you know that
when your faith is tested, yourendurance has a chance to grow.

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When God allows us to be tested, he's actually spurring us into
growth.
I think it's the eagle us intogrowth.
I think it's the eagle, I'm notsure.
Probably multiple birds do it,but one of them will make their
babies bring thorns into thenest, to where the nest becomes
so uncomfortable that they willwant to jump out and fly.

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And if they don't jump out andfly, I believe if my, if it's
not, then just we'll say it'strue with something else, it's
not, just we'll say it's true ofsomething else they will push
them out and make them have tofly, because they will not
survive if they can't fly.
And so maybe God is puttingsome thorns in your nest so that
you will be brave enough or beuncomfortable enough to go out

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and do what you've already beentold to do, but yet maybe you're
scared and timid to do it.
I don't know.
That's between you and God andallowing the Holy Spirit to lead
you, but I really want you tointernalize this because we can
sit and say we're doing God'swork and feel good about

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ourselves.
And in reality we're doingGod's work and feel good about
ourselves and in reality we'rejust maintaining, we're not
growing, we're not doinganything more, we're just
consuming, we're nevercontributing, and this leads to
a stale relationship.
Imagine if your marriage waslike this.
Probably most are.
That's why they end.
They stop trying to please theother person and it becomes all

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about them.
We're trying right now to teachour teenager this very same
principle, because I was thesame way teenagers and my son is
so giving.
He really is, but when it's inthe house, he is completely
selfish.
He never thinks about anybodyelse.
I say never.
That's an extreme, iscompletely selfish.
He never thinks about anybodyelse.
I say never.
That's an extreme.
He's getting better.
But he has to learn that thatselfish behavior is not going to

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land here.
Talking to people indisrespectful ways is not going
to work in this house.
He's learning I'm puttingthorns in his nest so that he
realizes that in order to makeit safely in life.

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So trials are not obstacles,just obstacles.
They're still obstacles, I mean, come on, but they are
opportunities.
So let's look at another verse,look over in 2 Corinthians 4, 17
and 18.
And before we read this, I wantyou to think about this Trust

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him with all your heart and leanout on your own understanding.
Okay, that's also scripture.
I didn't quote, I didn't citethe verse, but listen.
So 2 Corinthians 4, 17 and 18,it says For our present troubles
are small and won't last verylong, yet they produce for us a
glory that vastly outweighs themand will last forever.

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So it's saying that the thingsthat are coming against us is
greatly smaller than what itproduces out of us when we allow
the Holy Spirit to do His work,when we actually learn the
lesson.
Now, that's key, right there.
Learn your lesson.
How many of you hold on?
Let's get a little widescreenhere.

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How many of you have beenthrough the same situation over
and over, the same problem orthe same person over and, over
and over?
And you wonder, why does thiskeep happening?
Well, let me explain it to youvery simply.
You have not learned yourlesson because you're still
repeating the same negative, thesame bad, the same toxic, like

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whatever it is that you're doingwrong.
You keep repeating the samething over and over again.
So it's very easy to not seethis when you're inside of the
circumstance or inside your ownhead.
So what do you need?
The Bible talks about wisecounsel.
You need someone outside ofyour bubble, probably outside of
your family, unless you havesomebody in your family that

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will speak truth.
But most of the time, even ifthey're speaking truth, you, as
their relative, will not receiveit as being the actual spot on
truth.
Because you know them, you'refamiliar with them, you will
excuse anything they say,because you just don't trust
their word.
You may love them, you maytrust them, but you don't, you

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don't receive it as you wouldsomeone outside of that bubble,
if that makes sense.
So I hope, I hope youunderstand what I'm saying.
So get somebody outside, getwise counsel around you.
Be surrounded by wise counsel.
Okay, so let's look at thisfirst, for our present troubles
are small.

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Oh, I guess we already readthat.
We'll read it again.
Why not, for our presenttroubles are small?
Uh, oh, I guess we already readthat.
We'll read it again, why not?
For our present troubles aresmall and won't last very long.
Okay, so what the troubles aregoing through, just say you're
small, I don't have to waste mytime on you, you will be over
soon enough.
Sometimes that soon enough is amonth, sometimes that soon
enough is a year or two years.
But keep saying that likethat's okay if it not done.

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Obviously I've got more tolearn Perspective.
Yet they produce for us a glory.
So for us they're producing aglory.
A lot of times the Bible talksabout God's glory, but in this
they're actually producing aglory in us because of the
perseverance.
Yet they produce for us a glorythat vastly outweighs them and

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will last forever.
So we don't look at thetroubles we can see now, so
don't focus on the trouble.
Rather, we fix our gaze onthings that we cannot be seen,
for things we see now will soonbe gone, but the things we
cannot see will last forever.
So he's actually talking aboutheavenly things.
Focus on heavenly things, focuson the Lord, focus on how good

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he is.
You can't be grateful enough toGod, like you can't overdo
gratefulness, you just can't.
I mean God first of all.
He never stops.
So he's always doing somethinggood, whether you know it.
Now, how many of you know that?
You go through a season, you gothrough a situation and you're
on the other side of it and youlook back and you see God's
goodness, but in the middle ofit it was really hard to see.

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So trust that hindsight thatyou have seen God be faithful
time and time and time again.
Trust that and know that he isstill that same God.
Okay, so trust that and knowthat he is still that same god.
Okay, so let's go on to.
Uh.
So paul reminds us to focus noton our temporary troubles but

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on on our temporary troubles.
But on, hold on.
Let's try that again.
Paul reminds us to focus not onour temporary troubles but on
the eternal glory they'reproducing, eternal perspective
on temporary troubles.

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This contrasts the temporarynature of our troubles with the
eternal glory they're preparingfor us.
So what does that mean?
Things will pass with time.
Pain will pass with time.
Hurt will pass with time.

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Drama, trauma fill in the blankwith whatever you got going on.
It will pass with time.
Drama, trauma fill in the blankwith whatever you got going on.
It will pass with time.
But while it is passing.
Take what good you can, whatlessons you can, and let the
opposition turn into opportunityfor you to learn.

(29:18):
Turn into opportunity for youto learn Change from.
Well, I know you probably heardthis.
It can't get much worse to.
It could be much worse.
If you can reframe your mind,you can restore your perspective
back to biblical principles andpromises.

(29:39):
Every one of us has faced orwill face circumstances beyond
our control the job we didn'tget, the relationship that
didn't work out, the plan thatfell apart.
But, like Paul, we have thechoice to reframe our
perspective, our perspective.
Ask yourself, what if yourcurrent obstacle is actually an

(30:04):
opportunity?
What if, in this waiting period, god is working behind the
scenes in ways you can't yet seeand maybe you're not ready for
that season yet?
I know that's tough.
I know you want it now.
You think you can handle it now.

(30:24):
But God knows more than we do.
He sees more than we do.
He is wiser than our greatestwisdom on this earth.
He is more knowledgeable thanall knowledge put together that
we can obtain.
He is bigger, better and badderthan anything we can ever dream
or come up with.
He is God Almighty, the King ofKings and the Lord of Lords, he
is the all-knowing, and so ifthat is true, if you're a

(30:48):
believer and you believe in God,then you must submit to the
notion that he is exactly who hesays he is.
If not, you shouldn't be abeliever.
He is exactly who he says he is.
If not, you shouldn't be abeliever.
Not that you can't havequestions.
You should seek, and the Biblesays that you will find if you
got questions.
He is not scared of yourquestions in the slightest.

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But if he is your God, if he isyour Lord, if he is your King,
then you must.
You must be okay with what heallows you to go through, but,
as the Bible promises, what heallows us to go through, what we
do go through, from thebeginning of our life to the end

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of it, everything can be workedfor the good of those that love
him, for the good of those thatlove him.
I love you.
I'm praying for you, and lookat this new year as the year Of
where you get closer to God andyou step into the calling that
he's been calling you into allalong.
Hope you have a great andamazing week.

(31:58):
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