October 30, 2023 • 22 mins
Prepare for an enlightening journey as we sit down with the unique Esha Scott, a seer whose craft is firmly rooted in the Nordic Viking lineage of shamanic practices. Esha opens up about her work, guiding individuals through the dark corners of their emotions, shedding light on trauma, and offering healing. Experiencing her extraordinary gift first-hand, we recount an uncanny encounter where dowsing rods responded to Esha's energy in an unexpected way, suggesting a transcendental presence. The interview was recorded live in the historic Twin City Opera House in downtown McConnelsville, Ohio. The old theater is well-known for its numerous ghost sightings and has hosted numerous ghost hunting expenditures and subsequent television shows.
Fasten your seatbelts as we delve deeper into the mysteries of planes beyond the physical world, explaining the theories of quantum physics, energy, and vibration that guide our understanding. Sharing heartwarming stories of loved ones communicating with us through vibration, we discuss how one can become receptive to these energies. We also examine the influences of Eastern and Western religions on our comprehension of life and the afterlife. Isha offers practical advice on nurturing connections with spirits and gaining wisdom from life's experiences. Join us for a conversation that promises to stretch your understanding of reality and inspire you to embrace the spiritual.
Host Tim Maceyko is an author, coach, and motivational speaker. His publications include "When the Cardinal Calls," "Child Loss 101," and "Seth's Snuggle Time Game," all available for purchase on Amazon. For book signings, speaking events, or media interviews, he can be reached at TimMaceyko@gmail.com.
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Tim Maceyko (00:00):
Well, I am down here in McConnelsville at the
historic Opera House, and thisis a place where they say
spirits live, and I'm actuallyhere for a spiritual show.
Tonight, Colton Snyder is doinga big medium show.
I came down, and I'm going toget on stage a little bit and
talk for a few minutes about theFaith Beyond brand and what
we're doing with trying toovercome adversity and find
(00:20):
success in life and fulfillmentbeyond the difficulties we all
face.
So, it's a real honor.
I've got a special guest.
I'm going to let her introduceherself and tell you a little
about what she does.
But she's like a seer Is thatthe good way of putting it, a
seer or a shaman?
So maybe realize it is thatword.
But we're going to talk alittle bit today with her and
let her kind of explain who sheis and what she does and how it.
(00:42):
Maybe it can help you with yourlife.
Esha Scott (00:45):
Well, thank you so much for that introduction.
My name is Esha Scott and, yes,the title that I refer to
myself as for the work that I do, is a seer.
Where this word comes from isthe Nordic Viking lineage of
shamanic practices that they had.
That's where my ancestry isfrom, and what I love about that
term, in particular in thephrase that I use with it, is
(01:06):
I'm somebody who sees in thedark, and so, whether that's
into the places in the humanmind, in the human body, in our
nervous system, with ouremotions that people are afraid
to go, have a lot of challengeswith, especially with emotions
and trauma and patterns as theyresonate in our bodies, I'm
somewhat of a guide to walk youinto those spaces, to find the
(01:30):
pockets for what the lessons arein our experiences and how to
heal through them.
Tim Maceyko (01:35):
That's really cool actually.
So the podcast is really aboutovercoming adversity and
difficulties in life, whether itwas the loss of a loved one or
you had some kind of traumaticevent, and so we do talk a lot
about especially child loss,because that's one of my
specialties and a lot of peoplethat follow this podcast
typically have probably facedthe loss of a loved one.
(01:56):
So we were out in the lobbybefore we started this podcast
here at this beautiful theaterand you had an interaction with
maybe a possible spirit.
Is that correct?
Esha Scott (02:04):
Yes.
Tim Maceyko (02:05):
I mean, I was watching you and listening.
I'm like, wow, this is crazy,we just got here.
Esha Scott (02:10):
I like to joke.
I have that effect on theliving in the past, where my
energy is very intense, and soyou know I tend to shake things
up.
And so one of the ladies herewas working with dowsing rods
which will move and interactwith magnetic fields in a space
to kind of act as a vehicle forfor communication.
And so when I stepped into theroom they started kind of
(02:32):
spinning and doing some unusualbehaviors, and so we just
started asking questions andsaid, hey, is there somebody
here?
Do they want to connect?
Did something happen?
Do you need help?
And the answers were reallyinteresting, as we kind of were
starting to inquire with thisenergy and I asked do I make you
nervous?
And they said yes.
And I said, OK, well, do youwant to just kind of hang out
(02:53):
with me, walk around, see, youknow who I am, what I do, and
we'll open some communication atthat point.
And we got another yes.
And so, as we were walking outof that space, a lot of times
when I'm interacting withspirits I get information
through emotions or sensationsin my body.
Sometimes I'll get visuals orauditory communication, but I
got a sense immediately thatthis could be the spirit of a
(03:16):
young child, just the way thatthe emotions were hitting, sort
of the level of curiosity andnervousness.
And I have a background inspecial needs education.
I worked with special needspreschoolers for five years and
did private therapy with kidswith autism.
So I'm used to children, energy, working with new experiences,
kids that are different and youknow, I do believe even when
(03:37):
children pass they, they have anunderstanding and a way of
being that's different than whenthey were alive.
So I tend to pick up on thosesubtleties and nuances.
Tim Maceyko (03:47):
Yeah, that was really cool.
I was watching and I hadn'tseen those rods before, so it
was interesting to me and I waswatching to see if Nikki was
holding those, if she was movingthem, like I was watching, and
her hands were not moving.
These things were just turningon their own and every time you
came into the room theyimmediately went from where they
were and they pointed to you.
The one time you left the spacewe're coming back through the
(04:07):
stairway and they immediatelylike, turn and face you.
They had you weren't even inthe room yet, like I just saw
you coming and they were facingyou and Nikki had her back to
you, so it wasn't like she didit.
And then you walked in and theyfollowed you as you walked down
the stairway.
It was crazy, it wasunbelievable.
I don't know how that works,but it's really impressive.
Esha Scott (04:26):
Well, thank you.
I take that as a compliment tomy energy.
Tim Maceyko (04:29):
So let's talk briefly about what you do for a
living.
So you used to do, you know,work with young kids and whatnot
.
And now exactly what are youdoing?
Like how are you helping people?
Like, what kind of services doyou offer?
Esha Scott (04:44):
So I first and foremost like to always say that
I'm part of a larger network ofpractitioners, healers, people
in this type of workingcommunity, and so I collaborate
with a huge number of people.
I don't often represent myselfas an individual, because I
believe very strongly thathealing happens in connection.
That being said, what I bring tothose spaces is a practice that
(05:07):
I've developed from severaldifferent modalities that I've
worked with, shamanic practicesbeing one, reiki being another,
just working with spirit,earth-based energy, those types
of things.
But essentially what I do is Iorient people to understand that
life is our teacher.
The experiences that show upare always for us, for our
(05:28):
evolution, for whatever it isthat our souls signed up to
experience, and that includesthings that are horrific and
tragic and traumatic, as well asthings that are incredibly
euphoric and beautiful andlife-changing.
And so what I teach peoplethrough working with energy,
through understanding patternsin our nervous system, is how to
respond to life with whatevershows up, how to meet the
(05:50):
teacher as they arrive, so thatwe're not resisting the lessons
as they come but we can say, ohokay, I can see the bigger
picture of what's entering myfield energetically, of where
it's trying to take me, and inthat way we don't resist the
processes that come through forus.
We actually learn how tosurrender to things that show up
and evolve with them, ratherthan developing patterns out of
(06:14):
fear or survival that we want toavoid whatever's happening in
our reality.
Tim Maceyko (06:19):
Okay, it's interesting.
This is October, it's Halloweentimes coming, everyone always
starts to think about spiritsand all these things.
It's a really good time to havethis interview, so I'll
probably put this out here injust a few weeks from now.
But my question is this I mean,there's a lot of Christian
people like they're Christiansand yet they have a hard time
believing that spirits exist onthe earth, which is kind of, as
you stop to think about.
It's kind of weird, because ifyou believe in an afterlife,
(06:42):
then they're going somewhere,right.
Esha Scott (06:43):
Exactly.
Tim Maceyko (06:44):
And so it doesn't seem that far-fetched me at all,
no matter what your religiousbackground is.
But I'm just talking about like.
I was raised as a Christian andso I've kind of opened my mind.
I'm very, you know, open-mindedto different things that may
occur, and it's interesting tome how so many people that I
know will be like oh no, ghostsare not real spirits, don't?
I think that's crazy, and so myquestion to you is how does the
(07:05):
spirit get?
Why are they still here, versusmaybe wherever they're supposed
to be?
Esha Scott (07:10):
In the work that I've done with spirits and
asking that question, one of thethings that I encounter quite
often is a lot of people don'trealize that they're dead.
So there's a transition processthat I've come to understand,
where the consciousness of theperson isn't necessarily like
all knowing the second that theytranscend their body,
especially if that occursthrough trauma, through any type
(07:33):
of addictions or things thatare kind of interfering with
their mental capacity or theirconsciousness.
Elderly people, people thathave Alzheimer's that happened
in my family.
Both of my grandmothers passedfrom that and the first time
that I connected with them theydidn't realize that they had
passed.
So I don't necessarily thinkthat people hang around on this
(07:53):
particular dimensional planealways for the purpose of like
doing something or like theunfinished business.
I think a lot of peoplesometimes need a little bit more
support to move on to that nextdimensional reality, namely
sometimes just being like oh,did you realize that you've
passed?
And sometimes that's enough forthem to be like, oh, okay, cool
.
Particularly when people diefrom traumatic situations as
(08:14):
well, sometimes there's a formof closure that we can support
them with from this side thatjust reminds them that, like,
did you realize you have otherchoices now than being where
you're at, and in that way, whatI've also come to understand is
whatever like you mentionedwith religion whatever your
background is, whoever youbelieve you're going to meet on
the other side, whether it'sJesus or God or your loved ones
(08:37):
or your dog that's kind of whatwill manifest in that plane when
you leave your physical body.
It's like the space where timedoesn't exist.
So how we talk aboutmanifesting in spiritual culture
, where there's like a lagbetween you know, I want this
new car or whatever it is.
That's a very superficialexample, but you do your rituals
, you do your practices to startto align your energy so that
(08:58):
that shows up, but there's atime lag.
What I've come to understand,when people cross their physical
bodies, there's no time lag.
It's whatever they believe isthere will show up Right, and so
in that way, it helps people tounderstand and reintegrate back
to what I call source, like theunity of energy that we all
come from.
I do have experiences andexamples, though, where there
(09:21):
are spirits who genuinely wantto contribute to the lives that
we're living in a different way.
Now that they're past, both ofmy grandfathers are huge
influences in my life, even asthey've transitioned, and I
think that when you have reallyclose relationships with people
in this lifetime, they're notgone, right Is the thing.
Like you said, they gosomewhere, and whatever brings
(09:42):
you peace to decide where thatis for you in your world.
Um, what I think is mostimportant, however you practice
whatever you believe, is tounderstand that a relationship
is still available with them.
In that way, just because theydon't have a body doesn't mean
that their essence doesn't exist, doesn't mean that they don't
have things to still contributeand offer to your life,
including, at the bare minimum,just love.
(10:04):
Right?
That's the one thing that, um,I think is the essence of the
source that we all come from andthat doesn't change or
dissipate just because the stateof matter changes.
Tim Maceyko (10:16):
So there's two things I want to hit on here.
But let's back up.
When you talked about theplanes, if you will, uh, when I
was studying some quantumphysics, uh, a while back, I was
really intrigued by some of theconcepts that actually line up
with a lot of different thingsI've read about over the years.
But the idea that there aremaybe more than just one plane,
like a lot of people think wedie, we go straight to heaven
(10:37):
and that's it, but it seems likethere's actually different
levels and it seems like youmight be stuck at this level.
You might be stuck at thislevel.
Um, you, you want to elaborateon that at all.
Do you know, have any insighton that?
Esha Scott (10:49):
Yeah, um, I actually , for anybody who's listening, I
would highly encourage you tolook into the quantum physics of
this, because the science thatwe've been able to cultivate to
understand this, this type of aconcept, is incredibly
fascinating.
Um, if we agree upon the factthat everything is energy and
energy is vibration, andvibration has different
densities to it as it changeslevels or changes states.
(11:12):
Stuck is an interesting word,but I think, as you transcend,
we know what we might call thethird dimensional reality, which
is this reality where we havethe bridge between matter and
spirit intact.
We have physical density onthis plane.
When you transition out of yourbody, you're going to a plane
that doesn't have physicaldensity in the vibration, and so
that's the level that youoperate from a consciousness
(11:34):
perspective, as yourconsciousness expands and
evolves, and you start tounderstand there are more
options than the plane thatyou're in.
There's higher possibilities orgreater kinds of energetic
densities to interact with.
Like that source that Imentioned, your personal energy
will start to transcend and moveinto those higher dimensional
realms and that's again whereyou access these different types
(11:56):
of planes, on the other side,at least, as how I would explain
it.
Okay, now it makes sense.
Tim Maceyko (12:01):
So the second thing I want to touch base on was
after my Sunday.
So okay, let's go back up.
So, prior to my five year oldSunday, I really would not have
believed in any of this kind ofstuff that we're talking about.
I was one of those scientificguys, I was in my little narrow
world and I was happy with that,and then, after he died, all
these things started happeningthat I couldn't explain, like
all these signs, if you will.
So we had things moved in thehouse.
(12:22):
We had a ceiling fan that wasstarted turning for no reason
and the electric was off.
My wife woke me up and said hey, look, the ceiling thing has
moved.
And I said, yeah, the currentcan get through there, no big
deal.
Then it stopped and I go yeah,there you go.
And then it started to turn.
Yeah, there you go.
And then it started to move itagain the other way, which I
cannot explain.
Uh, there's a, there's ahundreds of them.
(12:42):
I could so many of them, but mypoint is this they communicate
with us on a vibrational level.
So it seems very possible thatour loved ones are given a signs
.
And somebody said to me well, Iwish I would get a sign, and my
reaction was you probably did,but we're not in tune because
the world's so loud and busy andwe're not trained to think that
way.
And so what's your take on that?
Esha Scott (13:04):
I agree a hundred percent.
I think again when I talk abouthaving a relationship with
death, having a relationshipwith life.
That's the intimacy that'smissing in our, our current
societal conditioning culture,whatever you want to call it.
If we are in relationship withthe energy that we have in our
own bodies, to notice when thatenergy shifts and then to
(13:28):
inquire further, what is thisshift that's occurring?
Um, that's where I like to sayit's like working a muscle where
you can and train yourself tofeel the presence of these
spirits and refine how youcommunicate with them.
Because in the same way thatyou can feel the shift of
somebody walking into a room andthey're really pissed off, that
same type of presence of energyyou can feel with people who
(13:49):
have passed, and in a lot ofways, that's how they try to
communicate.
Um, that's why emotion is theplace that I usually go to first
when I encounter them, becauseI'm going to feel that shift
occur in myself.
A lot of spirits because, again,this is a new, uh way of
relating for them as well theyhave to figure out how are you
going to pay attention to me?
What, in what format am I goingto communicate to give you the
(14:11):
signs that you're looking for sothat we start to cultivate this
relationship in a new way?
Um, and one of the things thatI tell people that I work with
is ask or be direct and tellthem hey, when you want to
communicate with me, could youdo it like this, so that I
recognize you when you show up?
Because otherwise, what they'regoing to do is guess.
They're going to turn lights onand off, they're going to show
(14:34):
you repeating numbers a hundredtimes, they're going to bring
you butterflies, they're goingto give you certain feelings or
wake you up in the middle of thenight, um, figuring out
whatever it is that they thinkyou'll pay attention to.
But, like you said, we live in avery distractible reality.
We live in a reality where somepeople, um, whether they want
to believe or don't want tobelieve, sometimes it can be
hard to accept the signs as theyshow up as well.
Tim Maceyko (14:56):
Yeah, it's ironic about everything you just said,
we experienced, like all ofthose things except the
butterflies Arts, was a dragonflies and I had the cardinal.
The cardinal is my, my big one,so All right.
So a lot of great information,but I know that your show is
about to start here shortly, sowe're going to have to wrap this
up, and I love talk more, butwe got a big show to do, right,
(15:16):
so so we're going to wrap thisup.
Any final thoughts you'd liketo share with people?
Anything inspirational ormotivational or just on your
mind.
Esha Scott (15:23):
Um, what I'll say is one of the direct messages that
I've gotten working withspirits on the other side is
they have a strong desire tohave a relationship with us, um,
and I feel like that'stypically mutual when we
experience loss on this side, ithelps us to understand again
our own relationship with lifeand death differently, more
intimately, more holistically.
And so for anybody who'slistening to this, who's ever
(15:46):
had the question or asked or hadthe thought is this possible to
still have a relationship, tostill communicate, to find ways
to have greater understandingand connection with people that
we love, that are just in adifferent state?
I want to be clear.
From my own personalexperiences and I'm sure you can
share as well, the answer isyes, and so, if you feel that
desire and you need a place tostart for how to work that
(16:09):
relationship and build that, um,that clarity and that refined
process of communicating, thereare lots of folks that do work
like that, that are really eagerto support you, because we love
it when we see people connectand how this changes their world
.
Tim Maceyko (16:21):
I love it, I love it.
You know, I started studyingHinduism and Buddhism and even
Taoism.
Taoism really got me going theother day, and so the more I
study the Eastern religions andI compare it to my traditional
Western religion religiousupbringing.
It's fascinating that each oneof those we can get a lot of
value out.
I think sometimes we kind ofclose our mind to that or
someone will say, oh, you can't,I think you can.
(16:42):
I think there's a lot of ways.
I just don't buy into the factthat only one person has all the
answers.
I think there's a lot of waysto have those relationships and,
to you know, advance in thenext life.
So, thanks for being here andshedding some light on that
today.
Esha Scott (16:56):
It's been wonderful.
Thank you so much for housingthis important topic.
This is great.
Well, I am down here in McConnelsville at the
historic Opera House, and thisis a place where they say
spirits live, and I'm actuallyhere for a spiritual show.
Tonight, Colton Snyder is doinga big medium show.
I came down, and I'm going toget on stage a little bit and
talk for a few minutes about theFaith Beyond brand and what
we're doing with trying toovercome adversity and find
(00:20):
success in life and fulfillmentbeyond the difficulties we all
face.
So, it's a real honor.
I've got a special guest.
I'm going to let her introduceherself and tell you a little
about what she does.
But she's like a seer Is thatthe good way of putting it, a
seer or a shaman?
So maybe realize it is thatword.
But we're going to talk alittle bit today with her and
let her kind of explain who sheis and what she does and how it.
(00:42):
Maybe it can help you with yourlife.
Esha Scott (00:45):
Well, thank you so much for that introduction.
My name is Esha Scott and, yes,the title that I refer to
myself as for the work that I do, is a seer.
Where this word comes from isthe Nordic Viking lineage of
shamanic practices that they had.
That's where my ancestry isfrom, and what I love about that
term, in particular in thephrase that I use with it, is
(01:06):
I'm somebody who sees in thedark, and so, whether that's
into the places in the humanmind, in the human body, in our
nervous system, with ouremotions that people are afraid
to go, have a lot of challengeswith, especially with emotions
and trauma and patterns as theyresonate in our bodies, I'm
somewhat of a guide to walk youinto those spaces, to find the
(01:30):
pockets for what the lessons arein our experiences and how to
heal through them.
Tim Maceyko (01:35):
That's really cool actually.
So the podcast is really aboutovercoming adversity and
difficulties in life, whether itwas the loss of a loved one or
you had some kind of traumaticevent, and so we do talk a lot
about especially child loss,because that's one of my
specialties and a lot of peoplethat follow this podcast
typically have probably facedthe loss of a loved one.
(01:56):
So we were out in the lobbybefore we started this podcast
here at this beautiful theaterand you had an interaction with
maybe a possible spirit.
Is that correct?
Esha Scott (02:04):
Yes.
Tim Maceyko (02:05):
I mean, I was watching you and listening.
I'm like, wow, this is crazy,we just got here.
Esha Scott (02:10):
I like to joke.
I have that effect on theliving in the past, where my
energy is very intense, and soyou know I tend to shake things
up.
And so one of the ladies herewas working with dowsing rods
which will move and interactwith magnetic fields in a space
to kind of act as a vehicle forfor communication.
And so when I stepped into theroom they started kind of
(02:32):
spinning and doing some unusualbehaviors, and so we just
started asking questions andsaid, hey, is there somebody
here?
Do they want to connect?
Did something happen?
Do you need help?
And the answers were reallyinteresting, as we kind of were
starting to inquire with thisenergy and I asked do I make you
nervous?
And they said yes.
And I said, OK, well, do youwant to just kind of hang out
(02:53):
with me, walk around, see, youknow who I am, what I do, and
we'll open some communication atthat point.
And we got another yes.
And so, as we were walking outof that space, a lot of times
when I'm interacting withspirits I get information
through emotions or sensationsin my body.
Sometimes I'll get visuals orauditory communication, but I
got a sense immediately thatthis could be the spirit of a
(03:16):
young child, just the way thatthe emotions were hitting, sort
of the level of curiosity andnervousness.
And I have a background inspecial needs education.
I worked with special needspreschoolers for five years and
did private therapy with kidswith autism.
So I'm used to children, energy, working with new experiences,
kids that are different and youknow, I do believe even when
(03:37):
children pass they, they have anunderstanding and a way of
being that's different than whenthey were alive.
So I tend to pick up on thosesubtleties and nuances.
Tim Maceyko (03:47):
Yeah, that was really cool.
I was watching and I hadn'tseen those rods before, so it
was interesting to me and I waswatching to see if Nikki was
holding those, if she was movingthem, like I was watching, and
her hands were not moving.
These things were just turningon their own and every time you
came into the room theyimmediately went from where they
were and they pointed to you.
The one time you left the spacewe're coming back through the
(04:07):
stairway and they immediatelylike, turn and face you.
They had you weren't even inthe room yet, like I just saw
you coming and they were facingyou and Nikki had her back to
you, so it wasn't like she didit.
And then you walked in and theyfollowed you as you walked down
the stairway.
It was crazy, it wasunbelievable.
I don't know how that works,but it's really impressive.
Esha Scott (04:26):
Well, thank you.
I take that as a compliment tomy energy.
Tim Maceyko (04:29):
So let's talk briefly about what you do for a
living.
So you used to do, you know,work with young kids and whatnot
.
And now exactly what are youdoing?
Like how are you helping people?
Like, what kind of services doyou offer?
Esha Scott (04:44):
So I first and foremost like to always say that
I'm part of a larger network ofpractitioners, healers, people
in this type of workingcommunity, and so I collaborate
with a huge number of people.
I don't often represent myselfas an individual, because I
believe very strongly thathealing happens in connection.
That being said, what I bring tothose spaces is a practice that
(05:07):
I've developed from severaldifferent modalities that I've
worked with, shamanic practicesbeing one, reiki being another,
just working with spirit,earth-based energy, those types
of things.
But essentially what I do is Iorient people to understand that
life is our teacher.
The experiences that show upare always for us, for our
(05:28):
evolution, for whatever it isthat our souls signed up to
experience, and that includesthings that are horrific and
tragic and traumatic, as well asthings that are incredibly
euphoric and beautiful andlife-changing.
And so what I teach peoplethrough working with energy,
through understanding patternsin our nervous system, is how to
respond to life with whatevershows up, how to meet the
(05:50):
teacher as they arrive, so thatwe're not resisting the lessons
as they come but we can say, ohokay, I can see the bigger
picture of what's entering myfield energetically, of where
it's trying to take me, and inthat way we don't resist the
processes that come through forus.
We actually learn how tosurrender to things that show up
and evolve with them, ratherthan developing patterns out of
(06:14):
fear or survival that we want toavoid whatever's happening in
our reality.
Tim Maceyko (06:19):
Okay, it's interesting.
This is October, it's Halloweentimes coming, everyone always
starts to think about spiritsand all these things.
It's a really good time to havethis interview, so I'll
probably put this out here injust a few weeks from now.
But my question is this I mean,there's a lot of Christian
people like they're Christiansand yet they have a hard time
believing that spirits exist onthe earth, which is kind of, as
you stop to think about.
It's kind of weird, because ifyou believe in an afterlife,
(06:42):
then they're going somewhere,right.
Esha Scott (06:43):
Exactly.
Tim Maceyko (06:44):
And so it doesn't seem that far-fetched me at all,
no matter what your religiousbackground is.
But I'm just talking about like.
I was raised as a Christian andso I've kind of opened my mind.
I'm very, you know, open-mindedto different things that may
occur, and it's interesting tome how so many people that I
know will be like oh no, ghostsare not real spirits, don't?
I think that's crazy, and so myquestion to you is how does the
(07:05):
spirit get?
Why are they still here, versusmaybe wherever they're supposed
to be?
Esha Scott (07:10):
In the work that I've done with spirits and
asking that question, one of thethings that I encounter quite
often is a lot of people don'trealize that they're dead.
So there's a transition processthat I've come to understand,
where the consciousness of theperson isn't necessarily like
all knowing the second that theytranscend their body,
especially if that occursthrough trauma, through any type
(07:33):
of addictions or things thatare kind of interfering with
their mental capacity or theirconsciousness.
Elderly people, people thathave Alzheimer's that happened
in my family.
Both of my grandmothers passedfrom that and the first time
that I connected with them theydidn't realize that they had
passed.
So I don't necessarily thinkthat people hang around on this
(07:53):
particular dimensional planealways for the purpose of like
doing something or like theunfinished business.
I think a lot of peoplesometimes need a little bit more
support to move on to that nextdimensional reality, namely
sometimes just being like oh,did you realize that you've
passed?
And sometimes that's enough forthem to be like, oh, okay, cool
.
Particularly when people diefrom traumatic situations as
(08:14):
well, sometimes there's a formof closure that we can support
them with from this side thatjust reminds them that, like,
did you realize you have otherchoices now than being where
you're at, and in that way, whatI've also come to understand is
whatever like you mentionedwith religion whatever your
background is, whoever youbelieve you're going to meet on
the other side, whether it'sJesus or God or your loved ones
(08:37):
or your dog that's kind of whatwill manifest in that plane when
you leave your physical body.
It's like the space where timedoesn't exist.
So how we talk aboutmanifesting in spiritual culture
, where there's like a lagbetween you know, I want this
new car or whatever it is.
That's a very superficialexample, but you do your rituals
, you do your practices to startto align your energy so that
(08:58):
that shows up, but there's atime lag.
What I've come to understand,when people cross their physical
bodies, there's no time lag.
It's whatever they believe isthere will show up Right, and so
in that way, it helps people tounderstand and reintegrate back
to what I call source, like theunity of energy that we all
come from.
I do have experiences andexamples, though, where there
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are spirits who genuinely wantto contribute to the lives that
we're living in a different way.
Now that they're past, both ofmy grandfathers are huge
influences in my life, even asthey've transitioned, and I
think that when you have reallyclose relationships with people
in this lifetime, they're notgone, right Is the thing.
Like you said, they gosomewhere, and whatever brings
(09:42):
you peace to decide where thatis for you in your world.
Um, what I think is mostimportant, however you practice
whatever you believe, is tounderstand that a relationship
is still available with them.
In that way, just because theydon't have a body doesn't mean
that their essence doesn't exist, doesn't mean that they don't
have things to still contributeand offer to your life,
including, at the bare minimum,just love.
(10:04):
Right?
That's the one thing that, um,I think is the essence of the
source that we all come from andthat doesn't change or
dissipate just because the stateof matter changes.
Tim Maceyko (10:16):
So there's two things I want to hit on here.
But let's back up.
When you talked about theplanes, if you will, uh, when I
was studying some quantumphysics, uh, a while back, I was
really intrigued by some of theconcepts that actually line up
with a lot of different thingsI've read about over the years.
But the idea that there aremaybe more than just one plane,
like a lot of people think wedie, we go straight to heaven
(10:37):
and that's it, but it seems likethere's actually different
levels and it seems like youmight be stuck at this level.
You might be stuck at thislevel.
Um, you, you want to elaborateon that at all.
Do you know, have any insighton that?
Esha Scott (10:49):
Yeah, um, I actually , for anybody who's listening, I
would highly encourage you tolook into the quantum physics of
this, because the science thatwe've been able to cultivate to
understand this, this type of aconcept, is incredibly
fascinating.
Um, if we agree upon the factthat everything is energy and
energy is vibration, andvibration has different
densities to it as it changeslevels or changes states.
(11:12):
Stuck is an interesting word,but I think, as you transcend,
we know what we might call thethird dimensional reality, which
is this reality where we havethe bridge between matter and
spirit intact.
We have physical density onthis plane.
When you transition out of yourbody, you're going to a plane
that doesn't have physicaldensity in the vibration, and so
that's the level that youoperate from a consciousness
(11:34):
perspective, as yourconsciousness expands and
evolves, and you start tounderstand there are more
options than the plane thatyou're in.
There's higher possibilities orgreater kinds of energetic
densities to interact with.
Like that source that Imentioned, your personal energy
will start to transcend and moveinto those higher dimensional
realms and that's again whereyou access these different types
(11:56):
of planes, on the other side,at least, as how I would explain
it.
Okay, now it makes sense.
Tim Maceyko (12:01):
So the second thing I want to touch base on was
after my Sunday.
So okay, let's go back up.
So, prior to my five year oldSunday, I really would not have
believed in any of this kind ofstuff that we're talking about.
I was one of those scientificguys, I was in my little narrow
world and I was happy with that,and then, after he died, all
these things started happeningthat I couldn't explain, like
all these signs, if you will.
So we had things moved in thehouse.
(12:22):
We had a ceiling fan that wasstarted turning for no reason
and the electric was off.
My wife woke me up and said hey, look, the ceiling thing has
moved.
And I said, yeah, the currentcan get through there, no big
deal.
Then it stopped and I go yeah,there you go.
And then it started to turn.
Yeah, there you go.
And then it started to move itagain the other way, which I
cannot explain.
Uh, there's a, there's ahundreds of them.
(12:42):
I could so many of them, but mypoint is this they communicate
with us on a vibrational level.
So it seems very possible thatour loved ones are given a signs
.
And somebody said to me well, Iwish I would get a sign, and my
reaction was you probably did,but we're not in tune because
the world's so loud and busy andwe're not trained to think that
way.
And so what's your take on that?
Esha Scott (13:04):
I agree a hundred percent.
I think again when I talk abouthaving a relationship with
death, having a relationshipwith life.
That's the intimacy that'smissing in our, our current
societal conditioning culture,whatever you want to call it.
If we are in relationship withthe energy that we have in our
own bodies, to notice when thatenergy shifts and then to
(13:28):
inquire further, what is thisshift that's occurring?
Um, that's where I like to sayit's like working a muscle where
you can and train yourself tofeel the presence of these
spirits and refine how youcommunicate with them.
Because in the same way thatyou can feel the shift of
somebody walking into a room andthey're really pissed off, that
same type of presence of energyyou can feel with people who
(13:49):
have passed, and in a lot ofways, that's how they try to
communicate.
Um, that's why emotion is theplace that I usually go to first
when I encounter them, becauseI'm going to feel that shift
occur in myself.
A lot of spirits because, again,this is a new, uh way of
relating for them as well theyhave to figure out how are you
going to pay attention to me?
What, in what format am I goingto communicate to give you the
(14:11):
signs that you're looking for sothat we start to cultivate this
relationship in a new way?
Um, and one of the things thatI tell people that I work with
is ask or be direct and tellthem hey, when you want to
communicate with me, could youdo it like this, so that I
recognize you when you show up?
Because otherwise, what they'regoing to do is guess.
They're going to turn lights onand off, they're going to show
(14:34):
you repeating numbers a hundredtimes, they're going to bring
you butterflies, they're goingto give you certain feelings or
wake you up in the middle of thenight, um, figuring out
whatever it is that they thinkyou'll pay attention to.
But, like you said, we live in avery distractible reality.
We live in a reality where somepeople, um, whether they want
to believe or don't want tobelieve, sometimes it can be
hard to accept the signs as theyshow up as well.
Tim Maceyko (14:56):
Yeah, it's ironic about everything you just said,
we experienced, like all ofthose things except the
butterflies Arts, was a dragonflies and I had the cardinal.
The cardinal is my, my big one,so All right.
So a lot of great information,but I know that your show is
about to start here shortly, sowe're going to have to wrap this
up, and I love talk more, butwe got a big show to do, right,
(15:16):
so so we're going to wrap thisup.
Any final thoughts you'd liketo share with people?
Anything inspirational ormotivational or just on your
mind.
Esha Scott (15:23):
Um, what I'll say is one of the direct messages that
I've gotten working withspirits on the other side is
they have a strong desire tohave a relationship with us, um,
and I feel like that'stypically mutual when we
experience loss on this side, ithelps us to understand again
our own relationship with lifeand death differently, more
intimately, more holistically.
And so for anybody who'slistening to this, who's ever
(15:46):
had the question or asked or hadthe thought is this possible to
still have a relationship, tostill communicate, to find ways
to have greater understandingand connection with people that
we love, that are just in adifferent state?
I want to be clear.
From my own personalexperiences and I'm sure you can
share as well, the answer isyes, and so, if you feel that
desire and you need a place tostart for how to work that
(16:09):
relationship and build that, um,that clarity and that refined
process of communicating, thereare lots of folks that do work
like that, that are really eagerto support you, because we love
it when we see people connectand how this changes their world
.
Tim Maceyko (16:21):
I love it, I love it.
You know, I started studyingHinduism and Buddhism and even
Taoism.
Taoism really got me going theother day, and so the more I
study the Eastern religions andI compare it to my traditional
Western religion religiousupbringing.
It's fascinating that each oneof those we can get a lot of
value out.
I think sometimes we kind ofclose our mind to that or
someone will say, oh, you can't,I think you can.
(16:42):
I think there's a lot of ways.
I just don't buy into the factthat only one person has all the
answers.
I think there's a lot of waysto have those relationships and,
to you know, advance in thenext life.
So, thanks for being here andshedding some light on that
today.
Esha Scott (16:56):
It's been wonderful.
Thank you so much for housingthis important topic.
This is great.
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